>>750230497
You know

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fighting games have the best gooner fuel but filter out normies with the gameplay

>>750230584
This Mai looks atrocious.

>>750230497
>nobody plays those games?
If you combine the sales of ALL fighting games they are the most popular video game genre.

>>750231328
snkeks and doakeks still coping

>>750230497
Devolved into an overly welcoming spectator sport.
Porn.
Thread over.

>>750231328
It's not the best mai in that pic but she looks good in-game and you have to work really hard to fuck her up(they succeeded with terry)

>>750230584

looks like a low tier ps3 npc

>>750231446
I'm pretty sure Pokemon alone outsold all fighting games combined.

People do play modern fighting games, since they fixed the problem of fighting games. At least when it comes to 2D which was the problem.

2D fighting games are really fun for children and whatever because it's kind of just random, you press buttons and things kind of happen on screen. And then it's true that you can technically get "good" at putting in the button combinations to make them work.... but that's not a skill, that's not interesting. That's actually really stupid and boring. What's interesting in a fighting game would be everyone able to do all the special moves and then fighting each other using them when they should.
Old 2D fighting games, oh you know the button combos? okay... that's a skill?
And then they would tell you in the game itself the button codes but they'd only work half the time.
And then people will say they're "bad at fighting games" when in reality, no fighting games suck, they are horrible. There's nothing to them. The button combinations rarely work, that's not fun. Imagine if you want to do a move in a game you go to do it and it works only 50% or even 80% of the time, unacceptable.

Post Chun Li

Why do people like showing Chun-Li getting beat up by other female fighters so much? idk anything about Street Fighter.

>>750232450
But thankfully modern fighting games use modern controllers with more buttons and therefore often you can do what smash brothers does and use one direction and one button. And then the skill becomes how can you play the game, not "how can you carefully put in this button code" like that is GARBAGE screw off.
So Smash Brothers did 2D fighting right and it's fun.
And then there's 2.5D fighting games that mask the horribleness because they allow you to move and dodge so it feels a bit more fair.

D fighting games have never had this problem. In a 3D fighting game like Dead or Alive or Soulcaliber, if you lose you feel like it's your fault, if you win you feel like you won. In a 2D fighting game, you NEVER feel that, it's just "oh okay, yay" or "gosh this is annoying." Partly just because again with 3D it masks the awful button inputness of anything because you can move around a bit more.

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>>750232181
It hasn't. It's outsold the biggest selling fighting game, but not the entire genre.

>>750232502
That's what she's been doing for all of her career

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>>750232610
You are genuinely describing a lack of skill at a genre of games. The "button codes" that "only work half the time" work all the time for people that learn to play fighting games...because they practiced. All of that is still a thing in fighting games today, you just described one that has special moves mapped to one button. That doesn't change that people who are good at these games have to practice these moves and know their advantages and disadvantages down to the frame, along with all manner of movement and normal tech. They all still do that same shit anon

>>750232946
>work all the time for people that learn to play fighting games
Wow it's like you read none of my post at all. Where I explain that... learning to input button codes... is not a cool skill, it doesn't make you better, it's lame. it's bad game design.
You know who agrees? Everyone who now makes fighting games. It's why the new Capcom Collection they take the old crappy games and they just allow you to pull off the moves with the controller bumper instead of putting in quarter circles that don't work. "well if you keep practicin--" buddy, no, that's not what fighting games should be about, ew. Gross. And I'm glad they're not anymore.
And even in modern games the button combinations do work WAY better, like since 2010, all the fighting games, the button codes work fine, it's still stupid, but they actually work unlike older fighting games that are random if they work or not.

Thank you for your idiocy. You are dismissed.

>>750233158
OOOH! and let's not forget different codes for each character. greaaat. So much fun learning button codes, such SKILL!
I can't wait to destroy people because I learned button codes. Rather than just actually getting good and having the fights be able intelligence, reaction time, TOUGHT perhaps, maybe some thought.

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>>750233158
>Wow it's like you read none of my post at all. Where I explain that... learning to input button codes... is not a cool skill, it doesn't make you better, it's lame. it's bad game design.
it literally makes you better, you can't do it without a handicap. It's a literal skill that you lack dude. You can be as histrionic as you like but you're never going to really like fighting games. You're too lazy to learn how to throw a Hadoken and you want me to believe you have passion for this shit? There are way too many fucking normies on this site, fucking hell

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>>750230497
Because the franchises were built in the arcades where you had to pull some guy from across the room to your cabinet, so everyone has to have appealing designs and most women can only be appealing by being hot, especially if you add the constraint of needing to be in a martial arts/death fight

>>750231446
Like separate IPs and developers? That's a meaningless handicap.

>>750233557
A skill I lack? You don't know who you're talking to buddy. This is about how STUPID it is that they don't work when you want them too and they shouldn't have anything to do with fighting games, at least when they don't work.
If someone can put in the button code they want and it doesn't happen, that's not their fault, your game sucks. It's badly designed I don't know what to tell you.
You're just a stupid normie who hates proper video game design, it's okay little button. You love crap, and then you wonder why people prefer the newer fighting games, because they're better, it is what it is, nothing to cry about. But you can if you wish.

Because you have NO SKILL. I have no skill when I waste my time making sure to know the button combinations and getting them to work, it's not fun, it's not something that should be in the game. So screw off retard, and I'm glad your retarded ideas are now dead.

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>>750233762
They don't work when you want them to because you suck at the game anon, I don't know what to tell you. The game is not cognizant of who you are, if others can reproduce these abilities --and they can, evidently-- and you cannot then the outlier is YOU. You are a complete and utter normie with no drive or passion whatsoever, and the fact that people like you are increasingly populous on this site is a tragedy.

>>750230497
Because hot and lots of porn of them, and people do play fighting games, but most people don't go lab autistic or grinds ranked, they play for a few days and then mainly just play with friends or when a new character drops

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>>750233557
So next time, before you post your RETSARDED CRAP, like /v/ always does, without thinking. THINK about video games for once, before you post. it'll be good it'll save time.
So you don't have to say stupid retarded crap embarrassing yourself thinking that secret button codes that you got out of your way to learn, and make sure oooh you put them in correct. quarter circle back twice and then A ooooh wow, WHAT SKILL! so useful, much better to do THAT instead of having it be just bumper and left.
I mean that's the problem with smash too, because smash obviously has no skill ceiling, because you can put in special moves at any time.

You are a mentally retarded zoomer little piece of trash who's never played an old fighting game DON'T TALKE TO ME you are dismissed.

>>750233913
You are dismissed retarded zoomer. Actually play the games you're talking about.

>>750232946
he's not, he's describing that old fighting games do not feel responsive, they feel weird and bad, modern fighting games with modern controls feel better to the average person because when they press the fireball button they do a fireball, this is partly why Smash got so big, it's really easy to pick up and play.
Let's face it, old combos and inputs are going out of fashion, they're just there because legacy and fighting game players throwing a hissyfit when they're not there, but they're just holding the genre back

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>>750234017
>You are a mentally retarded zoomer little piece of trash who's never played an old fighting game DON'T TALKE TO ME you are dismissed.
anon this is the worst imitation of us I have ever seen. Please tell me you are underage and just learning what games are. Zoomers are exactly the kinds of pathetic people who beg for games to be watered down because they are too lazy or afraid of failure to even try learning something new. We grew up learning "button codes" --ESL lmao-- and the ones that bitched about it were laughed at for sucking at games.

>unable to actually do motion inputs that literal 9 year olds can do
>admitting to being this low IQ
lol

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>>750234216
It's very obvious to tell when someone like you has no idea what they're talking about, because you don't even know what video games are about, you... stranley don't know what ability and skill is.
You think learning button combinations and putting them in is a skill that's very strange, it's not fun it's not a skill, it's garbage. You've never played an old fighting game, and you never will. Because they're awful.
No one likes them. That's why they're gone, because putting in button combinations that don't work, is not fun. So people stop playing.

I understand kids really REALLY don't get this, they cannot grasp this fact. it is what it is. It's not news to anyone the shift happened a long time ago.

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>>750234216
It's funny how your greentexts are unrelated to my posts about how learning button combinations is not as skill, the skill of fighting games should be in the actual fight, the actual thought and reactions.

But of course you're mentally retarded and low IQ, that's okay little buddy, I've been on /v/ I know you are.

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>>750234320
Combos are still around, you clearly do not play fighting games at all and only know about this genre from Super Smash Bros. Nobody gives a single fuck what some dumbass retarded zoomer's hysterics about being incapable of inputting a quarter-circle forward. You don't know shit about games and don't play games, you should stop posting on this board.

>>750234401
Yes. That's the point. Motion inputs don't take skill. A 9 year old can do them. Thank you for agreeing with me.

>>750234408
I understand you don't actually read my posts, and are constant embarrassing yourself exposing that you don't understand fighting games.
"no no button combinations are still in fighting games." HAHAHAHA kids have no idea. Holy. Even when I prove to you, just like how every fighting gfame collection now just lets you hold one direction and one button.

But I understand you don't like facts, facts are annoying, I get that, you are mentally retarded and stupid so... you know, whatever. Have you consideed killing yourself becuse you're a waste of space and can't understand things? weirrd.

>>750234456
I deinfitly agree, you are mentally retarded and can't read posts. It's weird. You can't do button combinations? Why can't you?
I don't really get that?
And what does that have to do with fighting games? If you can't put in button combinations? I... okay?

>>750234320
modern games still have optional 1f links retard

>>750230497
for people who actually play FGs the popularity usually tracks on how cancerous actually fighting the character is
>chun
despite being STs main female rep shes not that popular and usualy good/ok tier IMO shes good in 6 but just niche enough so nobody cares
>juri
in sf4, liked newcomer that required you to be a char specialist, in sf5/6 giga retard +frames char
>baiken
nobody likes fighting her always been cancer
>mai
is generally low tier in her series, cancer in sf6.
>sakura
i think always considered good tier
>cammy
ok tier most of the time

>>750234408
>>750234456
>>750234598
Maybe you two should murder each other since you can't read... I think humanity would be better off.


Because humanity is better with people who have information facts and understanding. People who know what they're talking about for example. So if you are talking about how to design fighting games, you should actually play fighting games.

"optional"
It's funny how desperate you are now. That's funny HAHAHAHA holy. Looney tunes rust on /v/ as always/

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>>750234517
Yeah I'm not engaging with all of your retarded bullshit, tons of fighting games still use combos today. You lack the ability to do something I perfected when I was 8, and choose to blame it on games instead of your lack of skill or drive to learn anything you do not already know. You do not fool anybody other than other normie faggots like you into thinking you know absolutely anything about games at all. You should stop posting on this board, you are one of the reasons it sucks here now.

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They do, but most normal fags will just play through arcade/story mode and then move on to the next game.

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>>750234697
I'm not reading that, I stopped reading your garbage after you admitted you know nothing about fighting games by saying they haven't changed. Despite me showing you they have.... so. Kind of strange that you're now instead of admitting to being retarded you will continue to live as a retard. Oh well I guess.

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>>750234456
>You think learning button combinations and putting them in is a skill that's very strange
The skill isn't just hitting 3 buttons in order and doing a motion input at the end in training mode with nothing going on, it's doing it when the pressure is on at the right time when you have a very small window for recall to put it into practice. This is like complaining about free-throws in basketball and saying it's not a skill and just garbage. It's the pressure to perform at that time in that moment when things are on the line. A lot of what makes fighting games fun is trying to perform and put your practice and experience to use right on the spot when the round is on the line.
I don't know why I'm genuinely replying to you because you'll just say some stupid hand-waving bullshit to pretend that that's not got anything to do with fighting games. Maybe you can prove to me that you're not a troll and recognize that that is an aspect of fighting games that is enjoyable, but I'm not holding my breath.

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>>750234746
You can't throw a hadoken without a hadoken button

>>750234763
>The skill isn't just hitting 3 buttons in order
No kidding, in fact that's not a skill AT ALL.

And I'm sure you'll point out that having to take the time to do that is important.... yeah, that's why I think it's actually STUPID to change old fighting games, to be easier to use as they have done. It makes them better, it makes modern fighting games better, but older games are already poorly designed for that.
Thing is, you don't have to make a poorly designed game, there's enough buttons now. Thank you, you are dismissed.

>>750234814
You are dismissed.

>>750234763
Idk why you're mad at me, I agree with you but you're arguing something separate that I never disagreed with. That ESL anon is either retarded or actually believes that motion inputs are impossible, and require massive amounts of skill or discipline. If a 9 year old can fire off QCFs after a few minutes, but he can't, then he might just be a bellend.

>>750232450
It's called timing and you need to press the buttons to match the animations

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>>750231328
That screenshot he posted is atrocious, in general I don't like that screenshotter's stuff, but Mai looks amazing in SF6.

>>750234918
dismissed.

>>750234910
>believes that motion inputs are impossible
funny how no one has ever even eluded to this, but of course 4chan kids instead of engaging with real discussion they invent things to argue endlessly about. It's very common with kids who grow up on 4chan.

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>>750232450
>the button codes but they'd only work half the time.
>button codes
/v/ is worse than a dog at FGs
https://youtu.be/dPuyagq27hs?si=2NaWG3ord-NNeHWn

>>750234850
Performing actions under pressure is a skill and motion inputs that must be done under pressure are a better expression of that skill than not having them.

>>750234910
I misquoted you, my bad. Meant to just reply to the retard.

>>750235124
You did reply to two people, one of them was a retard yes, just like the rest of the retards in this thread who pretend to defend fighting game useless button codes as a skill. It's not, and it's not fun and never will be.
/v/ of course will not understand this because /v/ is very casual and likes things to be "I looked at the button combos for this character now I can destroy people!" wow, what skill. Woudn't want to actually be challanged by reaction time and thought and action.

you guys are RETARDS, God knows it, it's okay. I forgive you.

>>750235071
...no it's not. HAHAHAHA. think before you type my friend. "see you're nervous and can't put in the button codes correctly!"
That's not great, what are you talking about? That's not thought or intelligence, it's just trying to play on your physical well being.

It's strange how /v/ doesn't even know what video games are. Keep embarrassing yourselves I love to punch down and expose /v/'s lack of video game design knowledge as always.

>>750235063
>here's video of a modern fighting game
So you didn't read my post. Well we already established that as a common issue.
In fact you just proved my point by showing a modern fighting game.

WOW RETARDS HAHAHAHAHA. Imagine being surrounded by unintelligent people all day long, you have no idea what it's like. People who don't read before they type random social media crap after they come here from twitter, not that twitter is any different from 4chan.

LIKE this is the best thing ever. I say old fighting games are trash with thier stupid button combinations that work half the time. modern fighting games have fixed it.

HERE'S MY PROOF >>750235063
YEt the anon is so blinded and retraded because he doesn't read what he's responding to.... hahahaha HAHAHAHA! youi guys are so stupid, alwauys. HAHAHA.

Stop bullying Chun Li!!!

>>750232613
Fuck her

>>750234850
How in the fuck did you find this site, where did you come from?

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>>750235361
>...no it's not.
It 100% is and it's the reason people get hype about any kind of performance at all in life, from championship sports games to giant live concerts. Never heard the term "grace under pressure" I guess. Performing with pressure on the line is absolutely a skill and one you apparently lack or you wouldn't be whining so hard about how you can't do a DP to win a round when you have to. Just play rock paper scissors if you want to take execution out of the mix, you lowdown dog.

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>>750235742
You're still replying. You're still trying.
And it's just "ermm I have nothing to say but hehehe how did you find this website LOL!"
And then absolute garbage excuse for poor game design. But that's okay. I don't need to say anything because like I've already said. I've won, modern fighting games listen to me, thankfully not retards like you people who have never played old fighting games.

Love the "get HYPED for champion sports games!" WOOOOAAAAH epic. Holy 4chan is good and dead. /v/ never understood actual game design, but, you know.

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>>750235862
I'm praying you are just an underage zoomer retard but holy shit there are a fuckton of you losers on this site now. Even fucking NORMIE losers are here now

>>750236258
>still pretending to argue
cool. I'm sure whatever you said is very cool. Glad I've wasted my time on the social media website 4chan.org once again instead of doing something with actual value, love being around mentally ill people makes me happpy~
You got basic facts? Well I have something to pretend to argue about! wow.

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>>750235862
>actually can't understand why people would find it fun to perform under pressure
Yeah you don't play fighting games to any appreciable degree and never have. I had a feeling that was the case but this confirmed it. No more replies for you, shitty troll. Kill yourself and have a nice day in that order.

>>750236915
Actually it's funny, you clearly have never played classic fighting games. None of you. Evident by thing like "pressing three buttons" as one of the codes I'm talking about. Like hecking what? We're talking about left down left B, Half circle back x2 A, that's needless. Pressing three buttons is, like that's unresponsive? You've never played a fighting game.
And the idea that it requires time to put in and therefore adds to skill, no. And being unresponsive? that's not good.
I know you guys have never plyaed fighting games, it's obvious to everyone when I sa old fighting games and you post stuff from 2010s or whatever.

You're free to ACTUALLY respond if you want: >>750232450
>>750232610
So far no one has, it's basic info everyone agrees with and knows but, this is a socia; media website so everyone has to pretend to be retarded, I'm old so, I already know how it goes. Just kind of whatever. Did you win your pretend 4chan argument yet?

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>>750233158
Guess we should start removing wall jumps from platformers then. Fuck, all jumping period. And attacking? Nah, they can do that automatically. Why should gamers have to learn such a stupid skill like pressing the button at the right time.
All games should be a character running forwards by themselves, attacking and jumping at the right time without the player having to learn how to do it properly. Press X to awesome.

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>>750235619
She deserves a break
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