will fromsoft ever make a game for their original fans again?Games that focus on exploration and interesting game mechanics?
No. DS1gods will have to wait for the indie revival in 5-6 years.
>>750230929They did, it's called Elden Ring
>>750231345Elden Ring was made for the masses. People who praise Elden Ring started with DS3 because that's what Elden Ring is. A more slopified version of an already slopified game. It enhances all the shit from DS3 and puts it into a Ubisoft open world game. Elden Ring didn't need to be open world, in fact it gains very little from being open world. It's only open world because its a market label normies fucking love.
What's that, little chuddie? You don't want another battle royal game? You don't want to pay $5 for what should have been a free update? TOO BAD! FUCK YOU! BUY A SWITCH 2!
>>750230929yea, check out elden ring
>>750230929Everybody cried when DS2 did it so now you won't ever see that again, not even in indie games or Souls-likes.
>>750230929Wrong pic
>>750231845DS2 was good. It just wasn't the same so people fucking hated it.>WHAT!? I CAN'T RUN PAST ENEMIES>WHAT?! THERES CONSEQUENCES FOR DRINKING ESTUS INFRONT OF AN ENEMY>WHAT?! MUH IFRAMES ARE GONE >WHAT?! I CAN GET HECKIN INVADED BY RED MAN WHEN HOLLOW AND WHEN BOSS IS DEAD?It was a very good game, looking back I think people were way to harsh to it considering DS3 and the following games were much much more boring.
>>750232101All of the FromSoftware games are objectively amazing, though!People who hate any of the FromSoftware games really need to GET GOOD!
>>750232101It's the same exact design philosophy as DeS and DS1, they just went further.
>>750230929>For their original fans>Posts Dark SoulsThat's funny. You should be a comedian. Remember Persona started at 3.
>>750232456It's also about generational trauma
>>750232307All of their games are good, but good on a technical level doesn't equate to interesting. Dark Souls 1 on paper is a terrible game, but its highlights are too strong to ignore.
>>750230929>interesting game mechanics?you were just scraping for anything positive to say but I forgive you
>>750230929Unfortunately we have to rely on non-From studious to do that in soulslikes. The closest we've gotten to DS1 exploration is Wuchang of all things, which is pretty grim.
>>750233140Wait, I retract that. BB was closer than Wuchang.
>>750233140I thought the Wuchang levels were extremely simple and not very gimmick based, but the bosses were exactly what Fromsoft should have evolved into instead of mostly straight fights. That is, they're all good fights in the normal sense and have specific fighting styles or gimmicks you counter with your own earned/learned movesets.Now The Surge 1 and 2, that's a DeS level design game (with a 7/10 at best combat system).
its pretty telling that the biggest news currently is that a game fromsoftware over 10 years ago was ported to PC and it was fucking AI that did it
>>750230929They've been doing that and I've been a fan since the original Demons Souls on PS3. DeS, DaS1-3, BB, Sekiro, and ER+SotE have all been excellent. AC6 as well though it's not the same kind of game as the others. It's 2026 and every day, nonstop for years, there needs to be a bitchy thread like this for some reason. I don't care if ER sold a gazillion copies, it was still excellent and I'm not going to let popularity influence me. There has only been two missteps as of late which are Nighreign and Duskbloods because I do not care for multiplayer focused games at all. It's going to take more than that for me to turn on From though, I'm fairly sure the next game they'll announce will be something more up my alley. Or rather it better be because I'd be genuinely shocked if it was another multiplayer game.
>>750233780yeah yeah you dont care what i say yet you explode into a bitch boy rant about how it touched a nerve but you dont care
>>75023378>I don't care if ER sold a gazillion copies, it was still excellentyou just have no standards
>>750232101I just beat it, almost all the boss fights are ass, but it is filled to the brim with cool mechanics and the DLCs have phenomenal level design. It doesn't reach DS1, but I respect it a whole lot more than DS3.
>>750230929>never played dark souls>beat bloodborne, sekiro and elden ringthe next time i get a quiet stretch i will play through the originals. elden ring was way too hard in spots but i did beat it and enjoy it. sekiro was fun but had a few encounters that were a bit too insane for me. bloodborne, though, is perfection. 10/10 combat, aesthetics, atmosphere, lore, music. my goldilocks From game and the only one i've 100%ed
>>750234154The combat in all Dark Souls games are worse than in the games you listed, but DS1 is still the best game From made.
>>7502319407pbpAt least there's a bunch of indieshit kingslikes.
>>750232101The game was a literal hackjob that had actual hitbox lag under 60 fps.Still a solid 8/10 though
>>750234476yeah it wasn't perfect. i especially hated Soul Memory and was baffled why they didnt remove it in the directors cut version in favor of soul level.
>>750230929bro, you will never experience dark souls for the first time again, and that's not fromsoft's fault, that's just how things work.
>>750234154Just keep in mind that the games your going back to are more 3d dungeon crawlers with a more basic version of the action combat your used to.Like the kind that expected you to keep a bow on you to draw individual enemies out of a pack by sniping them, but due to how fast the later games go will be like playing in slow motion for you.
>>750230929>original fans>dark soulswe should hang larpers for being gigantic faggots
>>750234565SM was an attempt to counter twinking but instead just made PvP a pain.Really what they needed to do was base the multiplayer mainly on max weapon upgrade but we didn't get that.
>>750234738>unc using zoomie words trying to fit ini fucking hate boomers who try to adopt the modern zoomie tiktok talk, kill yourself, you fat loser boomer virgin
>>750234795my first invasion on the dark souls remastered was a twink oneshotting me with dark bead. you cant really slow down twinking without majorly affecting people who just want to match and coop
>>750230929>will fromsoft ever make a game for their original fans again?No, not unless we buy enough copies each to account for the sales that garbage like Elden Ring would get instead.The studio turned to shit, just move on.
>>750234476>that had actual hitbox lag under 60 fps.That video is already debunked, by the way. He did not account for enemy hitboxes also lagging a frame behind, meaning this "lag" has no impact on actual gameplay. Nevermind that every Souls game actually has this.
i dont know why, but this sort of shit leaves a bad taste in my mouth. charging $5 for bite size content just feels wrong. it sets a bad precedent that will 100% be repeated in the future by fromsoftware. I won't be surprised if Dusk bloods charges for each DLC character and small content packs. it feels shitty.
>>750235694That's good, however I still wonder why DS2 is the one that people had the most issue with when ti comes to that however.
>>750233725only because theres still no official port. its also the best soulsborne game
>>750234154ds1 is awesome in many regards but you dont play it for the combat so that might be a difficult adjustment
>>750232101I'm told I should play the original DS2 over the Scholar edition because of better enemy placement, chat is this true?
>>750232101Don't forget the [buzzword] bros that couldn't explain why DS1 is a masterpiece with a gun to their head and have less of a grasp on game design than Fifa normalfags. There's just no following up on a game backed by that level of delusion, especially when you're a game like DS2 that's value lies in tangible properties.
>>750236470half and half.
>>750230929What fans. It wasn't very good.
>>750236470i was told the original is better and when i asked why, the person couldnt give me a reason why so thats probably just nonsense
>>750236216It isn't, it's just the only game you're allowed to complain about without people telling you to gitgud. >>750236470Anyone making a big deal out of it is an autistic /v/tard, both are fine. In anything you should just do both because DS2 is the most replayable souls.
>>750236470DS2 og has a cleaner ramp up in regards enemy and NPC placement and mechanics, but has worse item placement is overall less polished and has less content.If your only planning on playing it once play scholar but if your the kind to run a game multiple times base DS2 has the better onboarding.
i don't think they could go back to King's Field
>>750230929Yea, give me a new shadow tower you fucks. v
>>750230929I still have faith in the Yamamura-Hamatani duo.Never again buying Miyazaki-Tanimura games. Solo Miyazaki is good too.
>>750230929Decompile it and improve it
>>750232101actually people didnt like it because it was poorly made garbage
>>750230929>fromsoft never made games before dark souls
Any indies that scratch the itch?
>>750231519i've only played ds1/sekiro/elden ringelden ring is plenty in line with the ethos of ds1
>>750232101DS2fags will spend their entire life seething at everyone over a game that was just ok.
If you're younger than the release date of King's Field, no, the original founding of from software then you have zero right to claim you are an "OG" in any capacity.
>>750236470It's just people being dumb. They can argue about enemy placements and choices all they like but the reality is that the base game has completely garbage aggro ranges, aggro groupings and far more instances of level layout where you can't avoid drawing a lot of enemy aggro at once so it results in a much worse experience for regular encounters. At some point retards online started trying to twist the gank meme to be about Scholar, when it's specifically what Scholar fixed most of all (and then DS3 reverted that change too).Scholar is the overall better experience, regardless of individual instances of some enemy group changes that people don't like.
>>750238763Try Dinoblade, it's shitkino
