>put Star Fox back into the gaming community dialogue thanks to allowing Fox to show up in The Super Mario Galaxy Movie>proceed to greenlight a character design for the franchise's return to gaming that looks nothing like this or any iteration of Star Fox short of those weird puppets they used for promotional material of the original gameBut...why?
Because they can.next thread
>>750233148you see the oot demake? they're going all in on "hire this man" games they already remade a decade ago
>>750233148Better question is how the fuck do they not have Galaxy 3 in the chamber at this point?
>>750233148If the leaks continue being true, then the "next" Star Fox game was actually the one that was being developed first, and the weird realistic 64 remake was a rush job outsourced to Indians because Nintendo had to throw together an easier sell for the normalfags. It's very likely whatever the next project is won't use the same art style as the remake, and it very well might look something closer to the Mario movie design.Or it might not. Nintendo is strange that way. They were still using Fox's Assault design in marketing even during the early Wii U years (before Zero came out).
>>750233470They will likely do a Star Fox Afventures remake, because it's the direct sequel to 64.Hopefully they change the voices, since they sound just plain wrong. I had an Xbox and PS2 that generation, so Switch 2 NSO was how I played it.
>>750233148OP, the game didn't suddenly exist because Fox showed up in the movie, it was already under development in tandem with the movie.Stop being retarded.
Krystal Ball
Fat fox are kino
>>750233148If you knew who he is then did it matter they redesigned him?
>>750233148God I want to snuggle that soft face.
>>750233752Reminds me of the Mario party princess peach drawing where she becomes baby bowser’s slave while in ball form. Pretty autistic stuff
>>750234319this
>>750234564Why wouldn't a cocksure braggart like him go join Star Wolf instead of a bunch of goody two-shoes that he could outfly blindfolded?
>>750233295This.Links awakening was such a cool move(shame about the games low framerate) And now theyre leaning into "Focus M" aesthetics
>>750233614Are you suggesting there was no communication whatsoever between Nintendo and Illumination during the multiyear development of these two projects and that there was no way for them to coordinate designs?
>>750233148Miyamoto is old and on his way out. He had to compromise his visions to make his fortune. Now he's a god in his industry and powerful in his company. No one would dare tell him "no." He is raping all of his "babies" to make them. It's his final act on his way out the door.>Donkey Kong was made "more expressive" but coincidentally this just means making him look like shitty Miyamoto DK instead of good Rare DK>Star Fox is now the most atrocious cast of characters in the history of the industry>Link now looks like an autistic bale of hayCalling it now. The next 3D Mario is going to drastically redesign Mario and he's going to look like Popeye again.
>>750233579>They will likely do a Star Fox Afventures remake, because it's the direct sequel to 64.I like that people are naive enough to think it's not going to be another remake of 64. The last three Star Fox games have been remakes of 64. Three in a row. Three times in a fucking row they did that. You bet your ass they're gonna do a fourth.
>>750233148I like movie FoxI want movie FoxI crave movie Fox and his black lips
>>750235390>he's going to look like Popeye againI doubt that, if they were going to go full 1981 they would've changed Pauline's look to be closer to the original as well. He was just really fucking bent that Rare's take was more popular than his version ever was.
>>750233148>put Fox into the spotlight>rather than making a new game he gets another remake of the same fucking game that has been remade 3 times nowthis is the same company that greenlit another 3D DK game. Why do they do this to Fox
>>750233148>gaming community dialogue
>>750235815Do you think he has black sheath lips, too?
>>750233148>just a remake of Starfox 64>no new levels>just paltry multiplayerSeriously, what the fuck were they thinking here??
>anthro character>made for bed breaking sexevery time
>>750233148Why are anons so obsessed with his lips anyway
>>750236241It's Nintendo. You won't find out unless Star Fox has a Teraleak event with unreleased stories consisting of the depraved sex misadventures of Fox and friends
>>750236648Because they're expressive yet subtle and add life and clarity to his expressionsJust don't make them fuckhueg and puffy like all that garish bimbo hyper fetish art. It's fucking disgusting
>>750236648Theyre cute, soft and kissable
>>750236648its literally just one guy
>>750233148I wanna taste him so bad, vros...
>>750237163There was a non-stop torrent of jokes about the lips and his slick Nick Wilde-esque expressions during the screening window
>>750236849human DSLs
>>750237232He's taken
>>750237325So hot.
>>750237163you're literally just one guy
>>750237391Youre literally just one GAY.Hah, gotchya.
>>750233579I replayed SFA via NSO for the first time since my initial playthrough back when the game launched. It's a bit better than I remember it (particularly the music) but it was still pretty rough around the edges. Particularly towards the end, very rushed and I totally forgot about being stuck with 99% completion. A reimagining could salvage the game but a direct remake would do the game (and potential audience) zero favors.
>>750234635I've never played the games
>>750237441oh no I am defeat
>>750234635Because Falco doesn't fancy doing dirty work and being a wanted outlaw on the run is uncool and antithetical to showing off
>>750233148Boomer puppetfags wonZoomer furfags lost
>>750237620The very least they can do is>Scales battle>actual Krazoa spirit boss instead of bullshit Andross hijack>put all the cut areas back into the game>segments for Krystal like in Dinosaur Planet
>>750238161Is there any info on the cut areas? I've really only seen them briefly mentioned here
>>750238016The puppets still have the ingame proportions and ingame looks like the actual fox design. The only people winning by siding with it are larpers.Even ignoring how the actual star fox you played was the one that had a very cartoonish fox; people don't play cover art and ads.>>750238161The thing with the cut areas is that outside of Dragon Rock Bottom; which i don't get why it was cut in the first place; is that it relied on DPs design.Which sure if you just slide back in Krystal and add back Kyte you can just slap back in. I guess there was some hints they might have had the Willow Grove at one point.DP did legitimately have a lot of better design choices than SFA even if i can tell where some good ideas did come up in the very rushed transfer process of SFA.Not all of them though, a shitton of SFA was basically made as filler since they had to cut a ton of stages. And both DP and SFA can only really be described as rough ultimately.To the point that making it very presentable.>>750238365https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AVnpfRT1bkHere's the most complete one. Kiosk also had the other "Dragon Rock Bottom" section which was just a defend the Triceratops from some bugs section before you save him.DP requires a bit more of a writeup so i'll do that in a bit.
>>750234453That was hot as fuck. Samus needs a game over where she's permanently stuck in ball form and spends the rest of her life as a pet/trophy
>>750238580>That was hot as fucki dont get transformation fags>THIS VOLUPTUOUS WOMAN TURNED INTO AN INFLATABLE BALL>IM GONNNA CUUUMMM
>>750238465Also forgot but incase it wasn't obvious as shit, the test of scales or whatever its called was meant to be a boss fight. At some point in development they also wanted a Arwing Bossfight against the galleon which we have dialogue for; its actually where Falco originally would have came to save you.In terms of DP we have.>The Cloudrunner Trap RoomsThis shit was cut from DP itself and was replaced by the Jewel Mine Race, but basically its a bunch of trials that were meant to defend the spellstone. Its actually pretty long and complex with a lot of varied rooms.>Darkice Mines 2 cut roomsActually here's another kiosk thing, in DP and Kiosk SFA there was multiple cut puzzles in DIM2. Like a room where you needed a light to get through(that seemingly never worked), a room where you had to shoot a conveyor at the right time to drop some snowballs on lava; that sorta thing.>Cape Claw Sharpclaw CastleIn DP Cape Claw was around three times the size of SFA and had the content to match, but essentially it had an entire back half which was a mess of caves was centered around an a pretty cool castle. The original area for the second temple was elsewhere so the purpose of going here was;Rescue Kyte(Krystals Dinosaur)>Do the Fire Crystal Quest to open a shrine>go around again with a "Krazoa Translator" so you could open the way to Krazoa palace(the cut stage; DP KP is called Warlock) by either parting the waves or getting some sort of walking underwater spell?>Discovery FallsSeemingly one of the first DP areas finished; and also one that entirely relies on Krystal's partners gameplay.>Diamond BayThe original entrance to Volcano Force point, a lot of its puzzles were just moved elsewhere, but it actually does still have a ton of unique content still.>Golden PlainsA entirely cut desert level that was the original entrance to Ocean Force Point; or well it was Desert Force Point at this stage.
>>750233148They had the fucking world watching the movie, the anime sequence of Star Fox hyped the fuck out of everyone and they deliver this? Nobody was going to buy it holy fucking shit Miyamoto you dumb old senile fuck.
>>750239041I appreciate the write-up and clip you posted above.
>>750233148I honestly think their main goal was to try and garner interest from the Japanese kemono community, because Japan actually loves the more realistic interpretations of anthros. Also I feel like they were legitimately worried about too many people seeing designs that were too reminiscent of Zero, and they desperately wanted to avoid that. That said, I can honestly see them returning to a more traditional looking game the next time around.>>750236648Because gays are obnoxious troglodyte tourists that only care about something if they can ruin it.
>>750238970You need to have watched Tiny Toons during childhood to understand
>>750239041>Swapstone CircleLightfoot Village is unironically like a third of a hub area they expanded into its own level, but the rest of it and the second swapstone was cut.Some of its content was moved in but not all of it. On the note of village though, the really complex puzzle at the end had a different purpose in DP: and the shrine entrance still actually reflects this with its unique visuals.>Willow GroveThe original "entrance" to Dragon Rock, its somewhat complete in DP but not fully. Its a pretty weird stage that seems to be built around like a boulder chase. Is a big walk down spiral with caves everywhere. In DPs plot, Dragons Rock is mutating the area around, including the spellstone guardian.Who was then reused as the mutant thorntail enemy, and in general the idea of guardians in SFA was mostly cut.>Blackwater CanyonAn area that was seemingly never finished based on our very late DP prototype, we do know whats meant to happen here and that it even went through a massive layout change. In early DP, both MCs were actually meant to have unique dinos for their second spellstone stages.These were both cut, and while its counterpart was seemingly just fully cut once they decided they couldn't do the T-Rex partner, Blackwater Canyon actually got revamped and was clearly intended for final DP. We know from a rare doc that this stage was also meant to have a big skeleton boss at the end.Also it was centered around the "Shadow Hunters" who bizarrely they tried to reuse as Hookclaws, only for them to solely exist in the Test of Fear; the test that ended up replacing BWC.>>750239441Doesn't really hold up because that community is super niche and they clearly didn't give a rats ass about the JP release of the game.
>>750239561>Walled CityThe counterpart to BWC, and bizarrely had its name moved over to its entrance area which was originally called Earthwalker Temple. Some parts of the stage were moved over, and SFA based on some unused stuff wanted to double down on it, like with the aforementioned Hookclaws.>Walled City TRex chaseSeemingly a side effect of the merger, but it seems like Rare wanted to do basically a crash runaway section from a T Rex, where it'd end with it smashing into a wall and dropping its teeth, which would then grant you access into the actual city.This was then seemingly reverted into the EWT era button puzzle.>Krazoa PalaceAn area that was beyond never finished, and krystals final spellstone area. Like i said unrelated to the final game one. This is a crashed Krazoa ship, and by entering it you reawaken the Krazoa who was meant to be looking after the ship. He gets you to reactivate the ships reactors only to realize that the spellstone was stolen millions of years ago.The unstable energy of the ship then opens time rifts, forcing you to jump through them to track down the thief. You first go to the future, where Sauria has been destroyed by the Kamerian Dragon and is on the edge of a black hole, you explore the ruins to find a Mindread Spell and then return.Obviously your second go around will be to the past, where you discover that yep the Krazoa are evil big shocker and you stealth through. And also find the thief who is either some sort of turncoat or somehow a bigass dragon larping as a krazoa, and steal the spellstone from him.I forgot to mention but BWC also came with an unused Grenade spell as well, which was basically fully functional albeit its kinda shit and jank. But its cool in concept, its a mortar timed explosive that can recover magic energy; though that last bit might be debug shit. If you could just detonate it yourself it'd be fine, not sure why it got cut. By the way DP itself is decently playable at this point.
>>750239962I've seen a little bit of the 'final' version of DP being played, maybe I'll give it a go for myself.
>>750239962Also also forgot but the Inside of Scales Ship use to be a somewhat major part of Cloudrunner Fortress. And even had more unused sections even in DP, at some stage it looks like it was meant to be fully exploreable.For what reason? I dunno. There's also a metric shitton of cut enemies.>>750240321Right the people working on this luckily don't lock the fixes behind a discord.https://dinosaurpla.net/projectshttps://thunderstore.io/c/dinosaur-planet-recompiled/Some of this is still very much wiki crawling though for stuff like KPs actual content because i didn't mention it but the only map we know that got made was like a prefab looking map for the present version of it.When its working i think it is a much smoother flowing game than SFA honestly, though that bar isn't high.
>>750240479Just realized i said smoother about a 10 frames N64 game, i meant gameflow not literal framerate obviously.The original prototype was cartoonishly busted by the way, basically every item in the game had an invalid pickup object that had a 99.9% chance to crash the game. Most of the objects didn't work, BWC had an object placed in it that had a very high chance to hard crash a console.Also a weird thing with SFA is they just sorta moved music around at random, Dragon Rock randomly got Earthwalker Temples music and a lot of weird shit. Though even DP seems to have some of this weirdness(Earthwalker temple has two tracks, but the later Walled City version only seems to have one).
>>750239441The only thing I really hate about jap kemono is how they make the girls humans with cat ears. No animal features other than ears and maybe a snout. I've been told it's because it "sells better," but I consider it an all too convenient convenient cop-out
I noticed that none of the bosses in the remake have wind up on their attacks
>>750240682That's kemonomimi, and kemonos hate it, tooYou can blame Kemono Friends for ruining the naming convention, by the way
>>750240635I keep on forgetting shit but Dragon Rock has a completely cut boss that also pretty functional; unlike the games Drakor Fight which is obscenely unfinished.The Kamerian Heart is jank and unfinished but its mostly there as a boss. Drakor is obviously in the place of Andross as he was the main villain, his fight is weird and would be cool in theory but nothing is working. Pretty obvious why they just made him a shitty turret section.Basically you are on a weird floating asteroid and he's seemingly made some weird fake space dimension with his absorbed Quan Ata Lachu(DPs Krazoa Spirits, basically a Krazoa God) and there's a bunch of asteroids about.He tries to slice you in half with lasers but can't hit the platform because his actual aim is broken and said laser can also be used to split the other rocks flying around to attempt a meteor rain. Once you shoot him in the chest a few times, the Quan is released as a big krystal and you have to run forward to get it.Where again Drakor's ai is broken so he just lasers away from you and just awkwardly walks slowly to it, you can flinch him but it doesn't do anything. You win by getting the crystal obviously.And one final big funny fact, you want to know how DP ends? On a cliffhanger, you don't beat the krazoa, the ending is the Krazoa waking up, Krystal/Sabre/Randorn running away, but Krystal ends up falling back onto Sauria as Randorn/Sabre go to their home planet. Then you get a speech about the dinosaurs being united and willing to fight the Krazoa. What a perfect ending for a game that never came out and will never get a sequel eh.
>Fox meets with Sabre halfway through his adventure, who's out to break out Krystal out of the... crystal>they both feud over her, resulting in a rivalry>Peppy awkwardly interrupts and chastises Fox as they're about to throw hands and urges him to join forces with SabreYou rike?
>>750241054Drakor had a sort of cool design, the boas fight being a looping turret section and his introduction in general was just nonsense. I could say the same of every boss fight I suppose.
The only people who give a shit about Star Fox's design are furries.
>>750233148>Let me tell you how to make the world's best chocolate malt.
what's Fox gonna look like when he's added to mario kart world?
>>750241556How about you teach everyone how to lose weight you fat lardass
>>750241674Kinda forgot this leak was a thing but yeah that did come from a decently backed source that Fox would be part of paid DLC next year.I mean as usual his legs being tiny would look dogshit but i don't think it'd be an entirely unique model, so either it'd say fuck it and just go with Zero again(maybe somewhat modified to reflect the movie) or its the mystery adventure model.Which as mentioned before it wouldn't be shocking if its just basically movie fox anyway.
>>750242092Movie Fox makes Nick Wilde faces. Melee acts like a determined shonen hero
>>750241054Thanks for all the info anon. Dinosaur Planet N64 sounded like it was going to be kino despite the lackluster ending. Played the prototype when it leaked years ago but it was in a pretty broken state. Is it worth revisiting now that further reconstruction has been done?
>>750242339I mean thats true of most versions of Fox, movie is basically the sole exception. Don't think movies Fox would influence the personality that much, just that its likely the default reference for the visuals.>>750242485I'd recommend it yes, i think at this point its a pretty enjoyable romp. Its definitely still buggy in places and can get stuck sometimes but its decently uncommon at this point.And a lot of pretty interesting niche shit has been restored.
>>750242660>I mean thats true of most versions of FoxNot really. He sounds like a pushover who gets ordered around in Adventures, and in Assault Wolf has to talk some sense into him and give him a pep talkMelee Fox looks like a no-nonsense kick your shit in mercenary with the constant stern glare
>>750245836I meant that most are general shonen hero tropes. Melee Fox doesn't need to exist in a story, so the way he acts reflects it. Fox isn't exactly goofy in adventures, its just a lot of "this seems really stupid but its a job" and in assault he's very much a generic shonen protag arc wise.Though thinking on it, forgot about the mythical cucked fox. So i guess there's two big outliers, Command and the Movie where he's not really a shonen hero.
>>750233295Why didn’t this become a meme but Star Fox being fat and eating fast food became an instant meme?
>>750233392>Better question is how the fuck do they not have Galaxy 3 in the chamber at this point?Motherfucker I have Mario Galaxy and Rosalina fatigue
>>750236202Yes, Star Fox was culturally impactful, more than Fire Emblem
>>750237325So cringe
Why did the Starfox 64 remake barely make waves?
>>750233148>Literally a copy from Nick from Zootopia>Good
>>750246350A lot of people weren't in on the joke with fat Fox and it quickly got coopted by fatfag furries.
>>750246350I will now buy your game
>>750238016They were never supposed to look like puppets, they literally flat out said they were supposed to look like actual animals in the second reveal trailer. The puppet shit was a kneejerk defense.
>>750233148Who cares the new Star Fox remake ended up selling like shit. Star Fox deserves its failure and above all it needs to lose its status as a Nintendo All Star property. Animal Crossing deserves that title alone because it.....sells.Star Fox not only deserves to be mocked for being shit but every Star Fox character should be kicked out of Smash because the series is failure gutter trash. Ratchet and Clank is what Star Fox wishes it could be, even now in its rotted state Ratchet manages to still sell decent.
Here's your live action movie screenshot
>>750246747>hurr durr the only metric is profit
>>750246624The original was a hit. They tried again on the gamecube with a game where youre Fox is on a planet with talking dinosaurs and it was on foot rather than aircraft but nobody played it (I did and it sucked)
>>750246867>he thinks nintendo is in it for the praise and attaboysLol, lmao even
>>750246624Because get this, visuals are an important part of marketing. And the fact people stopped constantly shitting on it wasn't because people suddenly liked the designs, thats a small minority.And beyond that, its just not the design people were sold on.And everyone and their mother has already played 64 because its been released constantly; including as one of the headliners for their switch emulation service.And unlike OoT it doesn't have a meme status of being this absolute pinacle best game in existence; and its attached to a relatively dead franchise whose main meme is that they just keep on making the same shit.>>750246917Incorrect, adventure is the only game after Star Fox 64 that was successful(besides SF643D).
Hope they bring face of the franchise back soon, they were oddly adamant to show her during NSO announcement
>>750246350Fox McWagie is one of my favorite things that came out of the threads. It reflects how Nintendo has historically JUSTed Star Fox by shoehorning shitty gimmicks nobody care about and throwing it under the bus when they predictably flop. Fox barely scraping by as a miserable fry cook is a hilarious way to summarize itThe fat fox meme is afaik just shitposting to mock the uncanny redesigns I guess
>>750246985More like the scope for what constitutes a video games has expanded massively, and an on-rails shooter with a few cutscenes in-between each mission is barely above minigame-tierAs for Adventures, it's a lackluster Zelda clone with Star Fox characters slapped on. A rushed, unfinished one at that.
>spinning Starfox memes are gone
>>750247143I don't like the movie and haven't watched it. I just like a few character designs
>>750247143I'll add it also has a shitty violent slapstick, whereas First Zootropolis relied on subverted expectations of stereotypes In a couple of years we'll have Zoo3 about Birds.With a message "There will be poop everywhere but at least they're great delivery guys"
>>750247176Nah its pretty unlikely its just the gameplay, its most likely the shit indian designs doing most of the heavy lifting. Its literally most of the discourse the game had.And people overstate the "evolution of modern gameplay" by a shitton.The point was whether or not people played it ultimately; and adventures was the last relevant star fox game for a reason, as it was the one people actually played. Assault may play like shit, mangle its own rails section and be an ultimately pretty mid multiplayer game and barely has any content, and command might be reuse hell with an actual shitpost for a story(which would be fine if it wasn't so drawn out) but nobody played either of those.Nor did they play zero.
>realistic depiction
>>750240682Arknights does it both ways. This is a Human. She is solely seen as such.
>>750246742This. It becomes clear when you see how a real fox stands on two legs, Fox proportions in the demake mirror that while the puppets have human proportions.
>>750247608>Absolutely zero porn.>Meanwhile the shota is shoehorned everywhere
>>750247287You don't know what you're talking about, redditspacer.
>>750247195Nintendo literally gave the meme in in the direct but people just stopped posting it.
>>750240959He mentioned they may have a snout too, thoughtbeit. Kemono when it's drawn moeslop style is basically kemonomimi with a few more traits but basically closer to anime girl with cat ears than proper anthro.
>>750233148Don't forget all the disgusting asskissing tour Switchfags did with "yeah well the cartoony style designs were always bad anyway" and "it's totally le callback to le snes puppets".
>>750247031>they were oddly adamant to show her during NSO announcementSame deal with Toadsworth during the Mario Sunshine NSO announcement.
>>750247769No more Bill Bill Bill
>>750246730Buy the game twice!
>>750247860He wouldn't give Zoomers surprise boners so yeah, makes no sense to hide him
>>750247852They did the same pathetic damage control for Yoshi and the Mysterious Book by claiming it's not a toddler's playground but a "deep puzzle game for cultured tastes". Actual yoshifags didn't fall for it and instead lamented the sad state of the series
>>750247995Imagine ruto cunny
>>750233148Part of me wasn't liking the new dialog, like that's not how it should sound. But really those fucking designs I think are my biggest issue.
>>750233752krystalass
>>750248456They made Katt a crackwhore ffs
>>750249171Falco cuntboy :V
>>750238016They dont even look like the puppets though
>>750233148Miyamoto needs to die already
>>750233148Sex with Krystal
>>750235390Rarekong-schizo…
i love her
>>750246537>He wants a special move to be bumped up to a full characterAbout what I'd expect from that username, DESU
>>750246867That's the main metric that companies use to justify more gamesAlso the state of the star fox franchise is horrid, there's no defending it.
>>750246747Animal Crossing is barely a game. Each entry gets worse than the last
>>750250480Genuinely like her redesign, she has a cute voice and dialogue. Worst Kat is Command (that's pretty much every character's worst appearance desu)
>>750250830that one should be forgotten, even if SFC is the only SF game i ever completed
>Know what?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WC1I1-mC_vsfemale VA, at last.
>>750251414Rather flat delivery
>>750250653There are two different usernames in that screenshot
>>750248316Don’t have to imagine
>>750246895Is that Phil?
next direct when?
>>750257960Two weeks
>>750257983you promise?
>>750233148Because the one in your OP pic sucks, bro. Another annoyingly smug Western feature animation character.
>>750233295Keep traditional designs:>muh mandateChange designs:>hire dis man
>>750255819no, Will
Manchildren on this board do nothing but bitch all day aren't they?
>>750236648I think it's because on that razor-thin line between realism and cartoonish expressiveness, basically making them the best of both worlds. Western artists tend to do exaggerated lips while eastern ones do thin lips on snouts and sometimes both forget about lips altogether.
