>Tim Cain: Creator of Fallout, Consultant for New Fallout Project>Josh Sawyer: Project Lead and a Main Writer of New Vegas, Project Lead of New Fallout Project>Leonard Boyarsky: Art Director of Fallout 1 and Quest/Narrative Designer of Fallout 2, Lead Designer for New Fallout Project>Feargus Urquhart: Producer of Fallout 1, 2 and New Vegas, Executive Producer of New Fallout ProjectThese 4 now hold the future of the franchise in their palms. Do you trust them to save it from the looter shooter slop it has become, or will they run it into the ground and kill their studio?
>>750238705>Creator of Fallout, Consultant for New Fallout Project
>>750238705>Josh Sawyerwelp thats a game to skip.
>>750238705Uncs Assemble
Sawyer is a good systems designer but he is not a good person to have as your lead writer or maybe even project lead. This guy got promoted so much that he got pushed out of the niche he was good at.
>>750238807He said he never really wanted to go back to Fallout after Fallout 2 left a bitter taste in his mouth. I'm surprised he accepted to work on Fallout again at all.
>>750238705Besides Josh Sawyer it looks good
>>750238894Prepare for 80 hours of being told you are playing his rpg wrong. Going to be real fun getting browbeat by that faggot not understanding video games.
>>750238705Tim Cain loves the tv show, so expect more of that
>>750238894I think he's a good project lead because he knows how to ship a game in time. I agree on him not being great as a lead writer, but I think John Gonzales, the lead writer of New Vegas, will probably be the lead writer of the new Fallout game since he's currently at Obsidian and the game he was working on, which was a Shadowrun reboot, was canned by Asha. Sawyer will probably just do character writing like the did in New Vegas with Joshua Graham, Caesar and Arcade.
>>750238705Now make it isometric and turnbased and I'll pay full fucking price, even buy the collectors edition.
>>750239013The TV show is already canon you know right?
>>750238705but what have they done in the last 10 years?
>>750239013There was no escaping that no matter what because of Todd though.
>>750239059They should aim for their own version of gta with 3rd/1st person toggleable options but do 1st person/isometric. That pleases everyone and would be a nice feather in their cuckhat.
>>750239013really gonna get people re-invested in this franchise by leading off "everything about the games you liked was destroyed and there is no hope in the setting"
>>750239013/ourguy/ Sawyer likes the show too.
>>750239179No because 3d fallout has failed. Unless you want the game to only focus on combat and exploration you won't get a good fallout 3d. New vegas proved that. It mixes both aspects of fallout 1 and 2 into fallout 3 and fails at everything. It still feels like fallout 3. Fallout 3d will never work unless you want theme park bethesda shit
>>750239013>>750239257If you don't say you like [company's product] then you can be damn sure that they will never, ever work with you. Nobody who cares for their job in any industry will ever shit on what anyone else is doing, unless they're a CEO.
>>750238705>The Cub House
>>750239059this would just be wasteland 4 but probably even worse than 3. you're never gonna get something like underrail + fallout from a larger studio
>>750239287NV did work though, you're just a faggot.
>>750239287NV is better than 2 by miles. 1 is still the best though.
As long as these uncs remember that the real Fallout games are isometric turn-based we're good.
>>750238705>uncs
>>750239103I'm referring to the tone of the story and dialogue, and probably quests too. The lore is already completely raped in F4.
DESU, the only person I think really knows the Fallout is Avellone
Fallout is dead, just let it rest already. Nobody can save the franchise from the thorough raping that Bethesda and Pagliacci put it through, certainly not a bunch of washed up boomers.
>>750239410>new vegas tranny>calls someone a fagYou lost tranny
>>750238705It's gonna be shit like all bethesda games, they're all filled with middle aged white dudes so you know the games wont be any interesting at all without any diversity
>>750238924They probably offered a decent amount of shekels. I never thought someone like Ito from Silent Hill would return after he publicly denounced how shit the HD collection was back in the day and how Konami were retards bastardizing his work... then he went and gave the SH2 demake his stamp of approval along with Yamaoka. Granted they weren't the brains behind the series which made the first two games so good, but the fact remains they sold out with enough cash. No surprise Chris Avallone ain't involved, he still has some pride.
>>750239590Well yeah because the series diverged a lot from it's roots. They won't start from fallout 2 and make a succesor to it no they will start with fallout 4 and tv show story shit
>>750238807Is this porn and if so what is the sauce
>Main Writer of New Vegas>Quest/Narrative Designer of Fallout 2
>>750239817Don't people fellate FO2 constantly for having the best quest design of any rpg very made? They're wrong, but isn't that the general consensus?
yeah I think left to themselves they would make something cool but they are having to work within the boundaries of what bethesda thinks is acceptable for a fallout game nowwill wait and see
>>750238705Is the reason for these soulless corpo games because these guys got old and no longer have testosterone to fight people for their vision?
>>750238705>outer worlds>outer worlds 2>avowedWhat exactly are you expecting out of this?
>>750240317Outer World but with a Fallout skin, which is good enough>b-b-but the writingDon't care, I just want a new Fallout themed sandbox to play in.
>>750238705it will be another shooter. I don't think microsoft would let them make an actual RPG, even after the success of BG3
>>750240317them to be told to make new vegas 2 and make the same game with a different skin since at this point that'd be a massive step up for a franchise
>>750240129They had to work within Bethesda's boundaries for New Vegas. Avellone said that they sent out ideas and story beats to Bethesda constantly to be approved. I don't see why this would be any different other than making them include references to the show and maybe a couple of quests tied to aspects of the show. The worst thing Bethesda might do is force them to add procedural generation slop to sell more creations garbage, but I doubt that they have the time to do that since that would require designing large parts of the game around it, and I doubt they have the time or manpower to manage Obsidian that much.
>all these basement dwellers trying to spin this as a bad thingyou will never be happy which makes me happy
Tried to replay new vegas recently and just wasn't feeling it
need John Gonzalez. He wrote all the good stuff in NV
>>750238705I'm expecting the worst since they're all doing it at metaphorical gunpoint but I'll hope for the best anyway.
>>750238705It'll be fucking shit and will bomb in sales, unless they somehow learned the ability to make games that aren't fucking muh capitalismos bad boredoms, they don't have a chance of succeeding with this game.
Not buying unless Microsoft is removed from the BDS list.
>>750238705these guys are all gay btw, the game is over
>>750241938at least avelone is not there. He was responsible for some of the lowest points like Ulysses
Fallout is saved, sorry Bethesdajeets!
>>750242598Fallout 76 proved that it's impossible for Fallout to fail at this point, especially after the show.
>>750238705Who's the writer though? Sawyer is downgraded to just project lead, they hiring Chris Avellone for writing or is some Bethesda monkey with a typewriter being forced in for writing?
>>750238705They won't be capable of dewokeifying the state of Fallout because they would yield at the first time some rando tweeted they are racist or homophobic or bigoted.
>>750241938He works there again now
>>750242814John Gonzales, the main writer for New Vegas, apparently. Also Sawyer has been a project lead for pretty much every game he's worked on, and worked extensively on the writing while leading the project, so he'll probably also be co-writing large parts of the game. Avellone is not coming back because he's too bitter to work with Obsidian or Bethesda in any capacity.
>>750238705dayum. they managed to get all the OGs to agree to come back to work?
>>750242757>especially after the showHonestly, I couldn't even finish the first episode with how fucking disgustingly bad it was it was making me feel physical pain watching it.And yet here was my brother shilling it to me because of the meme that it was a good game adaption because the visuals were well done, but he spent all day hating on one piece because they changed some shit to fit within the time limit every episode had.
has a much higher likelihood of being good than the next TES game, but I still doubt it will be good
>>750242946The show is just slop for the lowest common denominator. All nuance to any of the factions and themes of the game have been diluted to "Capitalism bad", "Religion bad" and "Racism bad". The NCR being nuked is not even the worst part. They're portrayed as a multicultural, progressive, accepting faction that was the best hope for mankind, rather than a poor imitation of America that devolved into corrupt power hungry war mongers. The BoS went from a noble, if flawed cult that thought they were genuinely doing the best for humanity to racist, sexist nazis that execute civilians because they have different opinions and are portrayed as the typical militarized religious nutjob cliche. Caesar's Legion is basically just a joke, behave like 10 iq rednecks and are portrayed as so pathetic that you can't take them seriously at all, which was the point since they're the lame bad guys you're supposed to hate and laugh at, while the "cool" bad guys, the BoS will be dealt with later.
>>750239013He doesn't, he loves any pretense to kvetch about how Interplay were literally trying to hate crime him to death you freaking chuds
>>750242946I think the standards for prime tv are just really low. season 2 was like a parody in how bad it got. Might be a show that actively gets worse every episode
>>750238705Boyarsky and Cain were also 2/3 of Troika. Basically a WRPG supergroup.
>>750243860>I think the standards for prime tv are just really lowThey literally have the two of the best shows ever made with the late grand tour seasons and clarkson's farm, it's just that they literally have too much money to even care to properly make the shows.The main problem they had was the person behind all the greenlighting of projects that basically was an activist first and producer second, so she basically greenlit pure garbage like fallout and rings of power that not only made the company lose billions, but they actively made them lose viewers on the rest of the platform, thankfully she was fired not too long ago, but we won't see shit from the new guy/gal for years to come.
>>750238705It will fail because none of them have done anything good in years and they have modern year brainrot
>>750242917That's not bad even if its a shame about Avellone. What else has Gonzales done since NV?
this never works. enjoy your slop
>>750239013>let's just ditch the grimdark and science fi horror influences and ham up the kitsche retrofuturism and reddit humor tone of the series >also post post apocalypse is too advanced for the audience everything needs to resemble Somalia tier bullshit even 300 years after the actual apocalypse Fallout becoming a staple of safe edgy bullshit was the ultimate monkeys paw moment of Bethesda picking the series up again and I hate every second of it. Fuck having a brutal apocalypse lets just quirk chungus it up!
>>750244592He wrote the Horizon gamesI didn't play them so I have no idea if this is a good or bad sign
>>750245004I played the first one and couldn't tell you what it was about outside of "advanced civilization regresses to tribalism but there's also remnants of their former civilization still lying around and shit, and that includes killer robots."
>>750244569Pentiment was good doeverbeit
Good luck to them.But they're not making it by themselves. What does the rest of the studio look like? And do these guys have any actual director power, and if they do, will they wield it? Can/will they say "no, this is retarded, we won't do that." (likely in more diplomatic terms)you can have some good guys on your team but if the rest are faggots who literally hate it and want to deconstruct it to push their own stuff, well...
>>750241806as long as everyone suffers I'm happy
>>750245004Horizon 1 was good. Dunno about the rest. Cool story, cool world. I suspect people like >>750245094 have no idea because it wasn't shoved in your face, but it was there if you were interested. Kinda like all the books in the Elder Scrolls games. You can read them if you're curious, but if not, you can just have fun playing the game.
>>750245236Was good until the last chapter, fucking whiplash just so they could force in a w*man main character.Oh yeah and the fag monks getting freaky in the library, what the fuck was that shit. And the sassy heretical nun...Nah nigga fuck Pentiment actually.
>>750245482the suffering of others won't make you happy.
Looks like Microsoft missed their chance to give Urquhart the boot and beg Avellone to come back.Sad!
>>750245807isn't he the only reason the company makes money? because he jews his employees out of money lmao
>>750238705You can bring the whole gang together, it means nothing if they have no real creative freedom and decision power. If some jackass Microsoft Joe or Karen Shekelstein hangs above them shooting down every idea that could threaten to be fun, it's gonna suck donkey ass like everything MS/Xbox does.By the way are y'all folks using CoPiLoT to make the game??
>>750239013i thought the first season was ok for an attempt at fallout for normgroids. season 2 was such a fucking piece of shit that when i was caesar's legion split into 2 groups fighting over a 2 foot tall hill, while being 10 meters away from each other, i turned it off and that was that.
>>750246083they've changed over the last 30-15 years so you're going to be disappoint 1000% anyway.
>>750238705Why is Tim wearing a jew hat?
Did TOW2 end up getting its dlc? Was it such a nothing burger that everyone just forgot?
>>750245807notice all the ones in the picture really liked fallout tv, but Avellone criticized it on twitter.
>>750246306to prevent sunburn
>>750246542pretty sure those are canceled
>>750238705Wow Phil Spencer put on a lot of weight
>>750238705Franchise is dead. Hopefully after these retards shit the bed again Microsoft will shitcan Obsidian.
Someone shop Todd in standing on the shelf.
>>750245641nigga shut up, i like that shit ok
>>750238705>save it from the looter shooter slopThat's the reason I like Bethesda games. I go around looking for dungeons to clear and new gear to become stronger. I don't like choosing my stats or perks.
>>750238705has-beenhas-beenhas-beenfaggot
>>750246907Pentiment sucked balls.
>>750239013If anyone could salvage Fallout after that show, I think they could. But I am doubtful and suspect there will be lots of literally gay stuff in the game with them too.
>>750245641>Oh yeah and the fag monks getting freaky in the libraryThey were Catholics, what did you expect?
the only thing that can save fallout now is a sentient deathclaw companion you can fuck
>>750247142you sucked balls, coon
>>750245641gay monks were pretty common in the middle ages so its relatively accurate.it'd be nice to see the same enthusiasm towards depicting straight relationships though.
>>750247186>turn it into a coomer gameno way Jose
>>750247247>gay monks were pretty common in the middle agesthe idea that gay monks were "pretty common" is a subject of significant scholarly debate and likely reflects modern projections rather than historical reality.
>>750247391They were a bunch of nerds with plenty of free time and no access to women. What do you think they did for fun?
>>750239362My reaction too, anon. wtf
>>750239483>wtf why are you putting uncs on this unc core game
>>750238705They need to bring it back into a turn-based RPG. If it doesn't have traits, tribals, prostitution, and gambling, then it is not a Fallout game.
>>750247186There's a showgirl assaultron companion in 76 you can get sleeping bonuses with. We aren't far off.
>>750238705they look weak and their body language is that of scared and cornered animals.they will only make woke trash.
>>750247391Common doesn't mean all monks, its the same with nuns
>>750247509at least you admit your projecting
>>750239257House is one of the very few good things about that mess and Sawyer's praise for it might as well be nothing.
>>750238705Are they gonna keep doing gamebryo shit
>>750238705Didn't these 4 also make the Outer World games? Those games were ass, and they're just going to make them again, but with a Fallout skin
>>750247686I went "it's painful how uncool they are. Not even in the 80s nerd cool uncool way. Just pathetic weak 'men' both inside and out" in my head, then I read your post
>>750238705>These 4 now hold the future of the franchise in their palmslol. The one holding the reigns is Todd, let's hope he has a trained whip hand.
>>750238705>"lets put a bunch of washed up uncs to make a game aimed for new generation of cacas, they still got it, the uncs are still got it"
All the young white guys who love video games that never got a foot in the door, sacrificed in the altar of wokeism so boomers will never have to step aside.Meanwhile every professional young woman has a white boomer mentor who will go out of his way to make sure she's never in trouble and has a smooth sailing career.
I don't understand game development and what is actually responsible for the quality of a game>Bethesda: One of the great old studios, once considered to be in the same league as Rockstar Games and responsible for some of the most beloved and best selling games, had all the Microsoft money and talent at their disposal, yet made one low quality product after another>Obsidian: The best the Fallout all star dream team could come up with was The Outer WorldsMeanwhile A bunch of slavsniggers and europoors made some of the most impressive and memorable RPGs with a fraction of that budget and talent.
>>750247961Cain and boyarsky were involved in that shitshow, so yeah, there's genuine concern here. These people just aint what they used to be
>>750238705>save it from the looter shooter slop it has becomeI don't think you know what a "looter shooter" is. In any case I assume they're just making a Fallout 4.5 kind of game in the style of New Vegas to tide fans of the franchise over because Fallout 5 isn't going to release for another 7-8 years.
>>750248156Sawyer and I believe Gonzalez were notably absent from the Outer Worlds. Sawyer still has it if Pentiment is anything to go off of, so hopefully he and Gonzalez can tardwrangle the others.
>>750238705'from the decrepit creators of x' are always bad
>>750248279And even Cain came out and said that they side lined him more or lessalso Pentiment was really fucking good
>>750248075todd doesn't do shit with the actual game development anymore. his job is to suck off shareholders and microsoft suits now.
>>750248156Its actually not that complicated when you look at the way the games industry has changed since the golden age of rpgs.All of Bethesda's garbage games and Outer Worlds (and many others) all came out in the last decade roughly, when gaming became more mainstream, budgets inflated and larger companies bought up a lot of the smaller ones.In the case of Obsidian, before they were bought by Microsoft they had to operate with more/different constraints for a different targer audience. A good example of the constraints thing is looking at George Lucas' Star Wars and how the quality changed when he had infinite budget and no one to tell him no on the prequels. While they may have still been decent movies they definitely lacked that same spark the OT had when he was writing and directing it alongside Kasdan and Spielberg and others.So Obsidian now sits on its reputation and has far fewer constraints, no one present to tell them 'No, this stuff in Outer Worlds is lame' and in fact they have the opposite, they have MIcrosoft people there telling them 'Even though its super lame, you have to include all the culture war brainrot.'
>>750248156the people of the united states of america are completely detached from natural experience, what they experienced day by day is purely artificial and synthetic, they never experienced the struggle of life firsthand. Life Experience definitely contribute to your creation or whatever you create; if you lived in place like america - without any struggles, real suffering, and have artificial man-made pain and conflict akin to a well designed rollercoaster track, then every conflict, struggle, and pain that exist in your story and art are going to feel like a cartoon or caricature instead of realistic painting
>>750238705pedo boomers
>>750248156>Witcher 4oh boy I can't wait to play as old ugly ciri and romance men. skip.>Divinitymaybe>Kingdom Cumswallowersnah, vavra sold out to globoshlomo and made his shit gaped and pozzed.>open world LotR rpgwas kind of excited before I looked it up and realized that image was cropped, and it's also being made by warhorse. and then I remembered that the people who now control the tolkien estate don't give a single fuck and will license off their shit to literally anyone who pays them for it at this point to do whatever DEI faggot shit they want with it.
>>750238705Every single one of those guys look like they would flinch if I sneezed next to them
>>750248754>oh boy I can't wait to play as old ugly ciri and romance men. skip.I don't mind fem protag but Ciri was really bland in TW3 and how is a female witcher going to make any sense, is she going to explain it every single time? >nah, vavra sold out to globoshlomo and made his shit gaped and pozzed.KCD2 was good and Vavra is not working on either of these games
>>750248763Yeah dude most artist aren't tough guys, even a lot rockstars and rappers were sensetive faggy dudes
>>750238705Theyre likely the best hope that can be realistically assembled, but I give them 1 in 3 odds of success.
>>750238705honestly video games should only be developed by men under 45. too much testosterone has been lost after that point to make good games.
So since Sawyer is the lead is there going to be more gun autism
>>750249252nah, more pronouns
>>750243463>They're portrayed as a multicultural, progressive, accepting faction that was the best hope for mankind, rather than a poor imitation of America that devolved into corrupt power hungry war mongers.The dialectic is that they are both
I thought Outer Worlds was okay. Not good, but okay.
>>750239590Russian F2 modders can
>>750238705>Feargus UrquhartIsn't that the guy Avellone said would give him embarrassingly terrible fantasy novels to read?
Yeah here it isThis is the guy we're getting.>You also had to pull teeth from all of them to actually play the games the studio was making
>>750239059You're going to have to wait until inxile ship clockwork next year for them to start work on an fallout isometric rpg. They also have three guys that worked on fallout 1 and 2
>>750250254I think clockwork is going to flop pretty badly, but I think inXile will be ok because the budget for it doesn't seem that big, and because Asha would be retarded to not have them make a Fallout rpg. A Fallout 1 remake would literally be the easiest slam dunk imaginable right now, but Microsoft is retarded, so we'll see.
>>750248380Doesn't matter. That just means that Todd is now the idea guy with actual authority. It'll be his game first and Obsidian's second.
>>750250296I think it will do okay but won't make back its money.them only spending a 100 mil during a 7 year dev time ehile located in socal is wild. Asha is probably going to give them another 100 mil to male a fallout game.
>>750238705
>>750238705I don't dislike old dudes making games but the problem is they've all grown up
>>750238705>Do you trust them to save it from the looter shooter slop it has become, or will they run it into the ground and kill their studio?I bet they're going to make an amazing game, people are gonna love it and cherish it for years, but it's going to underperform and M$ is gonna shut them down out of habit.
>>750239013I never watched it. I did see the new RE movie last night, it sucked
>>750250548lol
A new fallout game that's being led by j. Sawyer and on the creation engine... kinohttps://youtu.be/oB-YzZ4D09Q?is=FZnRRXxpFxkHp__e
>>750250548Tim jew
>>750250254Once they ship clockwork and it fails miserably they are going to be shut down, Basically Brian Fargo is borderline retarded and chose the wrong game.
>>750239059based beyond belief
>>750251320Nah, They're definitely going to be put on fallout or elder scrolls. Idk i think brian made the right move on making a real steampunk rpg because the last steampunk rpg was arcanum
>>750238705nu males and literal faggots
I don't think I've ever played a game where the development team were the original creators of the game and it's been 20-30 years since that time. People who are younger always seem to have better ideas
>>750238705Is this a thing that's actually happening or are you just jerking yourself off over the thought of it?
>>750238705I see that none of them are listed as "writer." Get ready for the shitty modern tabletop fag brigade of writers who just want to make wholesome quirkslop so you'll have jokey responses to everything and every character is a quirkster with epic quips for every situation and a plot that's paper thin and at least three characters made for fujos and fags.
>>750238705List of garbage for a garbage series. They'll never make something on their own.
>>750251895Any waifus?
>>750251778Too bad talented young people are gatekept out of the industry
>>750246672Saying they liked it means nothing. They're MS/Bethesda employees so they can't really go around shtiting on things their bosses are making even if they do dislike it.
Cain and Sawyer are responsible for the only good games in the series so it's got potential.
>>750249184Shinji Mikami would agree with you. Dude said game directors should stop making games when they're in their 60s or something.
>>750250708I really hope it's made with Creation Engine. I don't mind the jank at this point as long as it's not another Unreal Engine 5 slop.
>>750252339Josh sawyer is late 40's or early 50's
>>750251853Yes, it's happening. Aisha put the band back together.
>>750252395It just makes sense for it to be on creation engine so that bgs can use some of obsidian's fallout assets to help shorten fallout 5's dev time. Oh and so they can make mad money selling mods
>>750251853Obsidian was given another crack at Fallout by MS bypassing Bethesda
Avellone wrote all of my favourite video game characters, it was a surreal thing to realize. It is at an immense loss that he is not involved in a project like this.
>>750252567And now obsidian is under bethesda management and todd howard. They're Todd's little bitch
>>750252752Todd is getting pegged by Shwarma queen every night, Fallout is an XBOX brand and Bethesda has absolutely zero control over it anymore.
>>750238705>do you trust them?no. great works of art are created by people in their prime.
>>750252752Todd won't do shit. Sawyer will inject a tranny love interest you will be forced to date, will introduce a quest finding out about the pre war ideology of "black lives matter" and will have a black woman companion who will be better than you in every way, and Todd will be helpless to stop him.
>>750254685Sawyer isn't that bad, only mildly twitter-brained. He's just anti straight relationships in games.
>>750238705where is chis avellone? if he's not in that means he is canceled. if he is canceled these. boomer kikes are woke.
>>750238705>old has-beens come together to work on a new projectCan you give me 1 example where this actually produced something good?
>>750254789Fallout New Vegas 2
>>750254789Cincinattus
>>750252752>under bethesda managementObsidian went from being owned by Microsoft to being owned by Microsoft. Nothing actually changed.
>>750252395I wouldn't even mind if it had Fallout 4 graphics like NV did with 3, but they obviously won't because normies are obsessed with muh graphics.
>>750238705feels surreal seeing this. I can't believe its real. There is actual hope for the next Fallout game
>>750238705sure, okay, i doubt their writing can be worse than retarded emil's babble, unless they troonify it, and i bet they could, too, i don't like these fat saggy faces
>>750247807>House is one of the very few good things about that messactor, yescharacterization, NO
>>750238705I don't think that's officially confirmed as the team. The 4 were just gathered to film the Fallout day video.
>>750238705Notably absent: Chris "I've read a whole book I swear" Avellone
I have jew fatigue.
>>750251895So the games will finally get good writing unlike the middle aged white losers that Bethesda currently employs?
>>750238705>no Avelloneinto the trash it goeshe's the only one of the old devs that's not a flaming woke faggot now
Sawyer made Deadfire which is an absolute gem. The issue has always been Feargus who basically sabotaged Sawyers entire career and life. If he has the budget and the time he will create something amazing. But why in hell would Tim be involved?
>>750238705Just tell me straight. How many sodomites are in this picture?
>>750238705>a bunch of washed up creatively exhausted old boomers This is gonna be shit
>>750257236Chris Avellone threw the entire writing team under the bus and thoroughly apologized for Cook-Cook while it was Sawyer that defended the character and the fact that people do awful things in a post-apoc setting
>>750257346Pillars of Eternity was rancid ass
>>750257406the problem is not that they are "washed up creatively exhausted", but because all of them (the one on the photo) are either nigger loving faggots, cucks or both (Sawyer).There is a reason why they didn't invited Chris Avellone.
>>750250036ex soviets are too nihilistic. every game they do is like that. atom rpg, stalker, no I'm not a human etc. they believe in nothing at all. fallout has a cynical tone but it ultimately believes humans aren't totally irredeemable.
>>750257474you type like a codexfag, your opinion is quite worthless esl-kun
>>750257506
>>750257585>>750257506
>>750257448Avellone is also the only one that shat on the TV series
>>750238894Managing to shit out FNV under 1.5 year is still an impressive feat. And unlike Majora's Mask, it looks like a brand new game rather than an asset flip at first glance.
>>750239432No it isn't. NV is Fallout 3 but not quite as bad.
>>750257236He wrote all of the reddit fallout 2 jokes though. He'd ruin the game and make it shit like Fallout 2.
>>750245004>>750245094>>750245641Horizon 2 was Elon Musk and his pals didn't die at the end of the world.They were hidding in Epstein's planet all this time while the Earth was recovering.Now they are back on Earth and want to kill all the natives for some reason.Also, they're like inmortal villians from Marvel now, they fly and all that crap.
>>750239803I recognize it(C88) [Denkishiki (Rikose)] Panda-sanchi Shukuhakutanyou are welcome
The real question is whether it will be worse than Fallout 4.
>>750257896Yes, Fallout 4 is just bland, this will be bland and preachy about pronoums, faggotry and all that shit.
>washed up uncs will save this ip Never has happened
>>750239517And there's no chance of him working on Fallout again because he said the TV show is trash
>>750257739>make it shit like Fallout 2You're shit.
>>750238705but i liked fallout 3
>>750258091who else? irony poisoned aging millennials? braindead factory produced zoomers who can barely read and write? gen x is the only hope for decent writing at this point.
>>750258020I don't know where you're from you heckin chud but here in the VAULT we understand that we're privileged. If you're not a mutant or a ghoul, you are privileged. Never forget that!
>>750257739fallout 2 had plenty of trash but it also had some of the finest moments in the series. sure it had talking mole rats and lame scientology parodies, but the political play between vault city, Redding, NCR and New Reno and how the player could tip the scales was excellent. it also built the foundations for New Vegas.
>>750258152Supermutants lives matter!
>>750255474>Next fallout game ends up being godtier>Only for everything to be ignored and the series getting dumbed down even further with Bethesda's Fallout 5Same thing happened with NV to 4, i still remember some silly anons actually thinking any of the mechanics of NV were gonna be in 4.
>>750238705I'm more interested in them training the next generation over making a game.
>>750238705>Do you trust them to save it from the looter shooter slop it has become, or will they run it into the ground and kill their studio?it will be another boring FPS game and the 3D fallout fans will eat it up
>>750258606why can't the next generation learn by themselves?
>>750258149xcucks are the starting point of cancerous writing.
>>750258686Because the people in OP learned from other people? thats what learning is? having a mentor.
>>750239013He got invited to the fancy premier and said he had a nice time. I doubt he's actually seen more than the first episode (not enough gay sex).
>>750239672Cain and Saywer will fill it with faggotry, don't worry.
>>750238705I'm not falling for it again. These retard niggers already wasted their "from the creators of fallout new vegas" line with outer world with me. Fallout New Vegas is a product of it's time before the gaming industry was infested with subhumans, troons, leftover women and jeets that don't even play video games and as a result it can never happen again without the forced globohomo humilation rituals and gay faggot shit.
>>750238827You’re going to get your detailed in-game history dumps and you’re going to like it.
>>750258717sure, but they're still less cancerous than the generations that came after.
>>750258745who were their mentors? did video game writing have an established tradition and apprenticeship?
>>750258824I really, really, really like this image. May I save it?
>>750258745Are you stupid?
>>750259391>Are you stupid?more often that not, but what I want them to pass on is their game design philosophy not their abilities.
>>750238705After PoE, Outer Worlds and Avowed, there's just no way I'm supporting anything coming from these people.
>>750238705White fat gay balding Gen X'ers are so fucking gross
You need a good writer if you want to make a good RPG, the story and characters need to be well written.
>>750259598this. replace these crusty, pasty old white dudes with women of color.
>>750259797Only if they are hot enough to turn racist chuds
>>750239358ThisThe only one who said he hated the show iirc was Avellone who is notorious for not giving a fuck about anythingThe rest of the team sucked it up, even Tim Cain who has gone on record MULTIPLE times to say Fallout was never "muh capitalism bad" was forced to suck Emil's cock even though the Fallout TV show is the most obvious procommie propaganda possible
>>750238705>feargas is still thereIt's gonna be shit. SHIT.
>>750238705>Josh SawyerHopefully BG3 mindbreaking him won't impact his management or skills.
>>750238705>tim cain, the dumbass who hasnt come up with a good game idea in 2 decades>Leonard, the same>Urquhart, literally who, not a good resume if he worked on 2>Sawyer, the only consistently good dev herethere's no way he could save this alone, especially when dealing with the outer worlds devs>no avellone (who wasnt even that great)>no Gonzalezi fucking hate microsoft so much
>>750255380I didn't mind 4's visuals when it released because 3 and NV also looked like shit when those released. Gameplay, story, dialogues and world building are a different thing though.
>>750260085He will remove VATS entirely just to get as far away from turn based as he can, out of spite.
Obsidian hasn't released a good game in more than one decade so I don't know why people keep glazing them like they are the second coming of Jesus Christ.
>>750260649>just to get as far away from turn based as he can, out of spiteGood. Ball's Gay Ass 3 has the worst kind of turn based combat system because it's designed to waste your time. Comparing VATS to a turn based system is a massive stretch though.
>>750260649Might as well remove all the guns too because they promote assault weapons violence, and all the old music too because they were recorded during Jim Crow and that's extremely problematic.
tim cain on his youtube blog:>cut down on management, meeting bloat, coward ass covering dev practices that are inefficient>focus on organic, genuine player experiences, cut down on shallow disconnected compass world and quest designlike in a word he basically advocates for two of the main positions gaming malcontents have been hollowing about for years. but I guess I would be a fool to think any of that would matter in the final product.
>>750257585Hawhawhaw herding plates and spinning cats! That's so fucking funny! Hahahaha! That's like...the opposite of what it's supposed to be! Hahaha! *Holds up a t3h sp0rk of d00m in solidarity*
>>750260858I can advocate for punching myself in the dick.Doesn't mean I will.
>>750257448>guy who was accused of rape tries to make out like he's against rapegee I wonder why
>>750238705It can't possibly be worse than whatever slop Bethesda was gonna shit out, so yeah, I guess. I just wanna play a new Fallout game, man.
>>750261060>NOOOOOO THE HECCIN FIENDERINOS DON'T RAPE THEY CAN MURDER LOOT AND PILLAGE ALL DAY BUT RAPE IS HECCIN BAAAAAADKill yourself along side the liberal turds.
>>750257448Kek that old kicker? I may be a murdering thief traitor no good crook swindler but rape and racism? Hold your horses there partner
>>750261106how was I defending it you subhuman retard, I was merely stating avellone is probably trying to distance himself from anything to do with rape after being accused of it himselflearn to read you black cunt
>>750261134I never understand why these neoliberal faggots act like this, why is rape such an untouchable sacred cow to them? Isn't the point of evil villians to do the most depraved and inhuman shit imaginable to their victims? Why would rape be a no no but murder and slavery (sex slavery) is perfectly okay? I hate american puritism so much the pilgrims should have sank in the middle of the atlantic.
>>750238705>Do you trust them to save it from the looter shooter slop it has becomeI dunno, it's hard to recaputre the lightning in a bottle moment that FO1 or even FONV was. I guess we'll see, I know better than to get hyped.
>>750261210>Isn't the point of evil villians to do the most depraved and inhuman shit imaginable to their victims?no?
>>750261210>why is rape such an untouchable sacred cow to them?I can only theorize they have some skeletons in their closets.
>>750261304Oh so the drug addict psychos suddenly magically develop a conscious and will restrain themselves from touching a woman when they say no?
>>750260887dont you fucking insult katy that way
>>750238705Wheres avellone
>>750261354Therein lies the problem. If fallout mad max wolrd were to happen. There aren't going to be a lot of...female stories that need to be told. If you catch my drift
>>750261464out raping
Literally the only people with some minor taste is Cain and Boyarsky and both of them got burned on the last two pieces of shit they were involved with by their Obsidian teams.I have zero expectations out of this.
>>750261465Yeah no shit that's the point the world is depraved, horrific and seemingly hopeless but neoliberal faggots and redditors keep taking this out of Fallout making it toothless and gay as fuck. That abominable tv show is the complete full packaged flanderization of fallout from a grizzly post apocalyptic hell to gay redditor nigger amusement park with le heccin strong women quirk chungus and her goofy nigger sidekick. Can World War 3 hurry fuck up and shake this neoliberal societal rot that's been infesting every single media outlet for almost 40 years now?
>>750238894>a good systems designerIf "good" you mean will ruin your game to balance it like it's an mmo.
>>750261672>patch notes>"dicksuck strike was doing too well in faggotry builds so we reduced its coefficient by 5% and stopped it from benefiting from shattered anus">faggotry AND shattered anus now worthlesswhy do they do this?
not gonna lie, this is really promising. Tim is spot on with his critique on Bethesda's fallout.
>>750261638If your dev team doesn't look like that I'm not playing your game. You can have one chick for art/music. That's it
>>750238924People who left bitter taste in his mouth were interplay people like Fargo. Everyone on this picture hates Fargo.
>>750261804Except he's gonna be taking it up the ass by Todd and Emil who will scrutinize and shoot down every idea he has forcing their gay nigger reddit flanderization of fallout on him.
>>750246190The fact that you watched even a second of it makes you a fag
>>750239059do that while I pirate it (if it's good) kek *wet noises*
>>750247247>gay monks were pretty common in the middle ages so its relatively accurate.Oh really.Name 5 or forever be branded a lying faggot. Emphasis on faggot.
>>750239013he was probably paid to say that
>>750247247Which jewish historic expert piece did you read this from?
>>750261210>why is rape such an untouchable sacred cow to them?Because of the reactions that it triggers in both men and women. It's not worth it to potray because of the bad taste it leaves in everyones mouth. We're talking rape here, not hentai game teehee I love being raped, rape.
>>750238705calling it now its going to be worse than fallout 4
>>750247509Worship God in quiet zen you fucking fuck. You're late for your HRT dose projecting faggot
>>750262080>bad taste Oh so murder, stealing, cheating, lying and backstabbing somehow doesn't leave the same kind of bad taste? Fucking retarded neoliberal nonsense.
>>750262080Don't feel too bad about this guy he was racist one time.
>>750238705>washed up Californian brain rot boomers who havent made anything good in 20 years in management positionsYeah that game will suck ass
>>750262198He can't help it. He's been beaten over the head with sacred cow western feminism since he could form thoughts.
>>750262198>murder, stealing, cheating, lying and backstabbing somehow doesn't leave the same kind of bad taste? Yeah, more common occurences that you have been desensitized to through centuries of human experience. Rape is like the ultimate punishment to both men and women, by being unable to protect a vital part of your tribe.
>>750254706Sawyer hasn't been mildly twitter brained since his gf dumped him. The last 2 years he's been full blown american unhinged leftoid.
>>750259797Not to worry, their team is all women of color.
>>750262424Ok quick question would you rather be raped or killed?Don't think about it too hard. For the sake of eliminating sexual bias it's a dolphin either raping or killing you.
>>750262332>sacred cow western feminismRape is frowned upon in any culture that isn't some backwaters favela. >>750262323Racism is the moment where a sort of cognitive dissonance occurs. Racism is born from the same thing that makes rape so distasteful, ingroup bias, which is essential to our survival. Kinda funny
>>750262581Killed, because it at least signify that I have the ability to fight back.
>>750262424It's fucking retarded to allow all kinds of depraved shit from murder to cannibalism and yet somehow rape is the one line these cuck developers will never cross even though you can guarantee your bottom dollar that it would be an absolute common occurance if law and order collapsed because a bunch of psychotic sex starved men that hang mutilated corpses up as decoration would keep women as sex toys raping them until they die and they go out to find new ones.
>>750238705I'm incredibly excietd, but Sawyer is really the only one of these guys I trust in, feels like he still has gas left in the tank, whereas the others have probably peaked in their careers
>>750262587Murder is also "frowned upon". You do it in a game you get 100xp points. You're literally proving the sacred cow point.
>>750262638
>>750260858I also remember he said fallout 4 skills are too complicated and that triangles are the future for stat distribution I hope consulting is a nice way of having him do nothing while his name is in advertising
>>750262645I don't think it would be that common if a western society collapsed if you count out the niggers that roam here . You can see it during disasters where "society" more or less collapses for a while that people come together and help each other out. >>750262682How about (You), would you prefer to be raped?
>>750238705Are they making it from their nursing home?
>>750260858tim cain also wanted to fire women who didnt want to share toilet with mtf tranny
>>750262885Yes.I can confidently say I would rather be raped 100 times than die once.
So this is gonna be like troika again I'm guessing
>>750262962I'm curious what your nationality might be, care to share? Don't have to if you don't want to
>>750262885You fucking moron do you realize how many injun rapespawn were created during the pioneer days? All done by western society types.
>>750263023Bangladeshi, although I fail to see how it pertains to this discussion.
>>750263090Oh so you're a pajeet where rape is common, you even rape grandpas over there lmao.
>>750238705>Not pictured: 40 HR ladies, 200 trannies and 600 indians.
>>750263090Mostly just wondering what culture you grew up in. Culture shapes people in different ways, that's pretty much it.>>750263075Ingroup bias as I mentioned previously. Also, I don't know the stories of this well enough to really comment on it being rape or women giving themselves up.I have to go, cool having a discussion with you lads. Take care
>>750262325Did not that gay self-hating retard get fired?
>>750262587>>750262424>>750262080holy fuck I hate simpnat cucks almost as much as jeets at this point. go chop off your testicles and prostrate yourself to your feminist idols like a street shitter worships toilets.
>>750260316>Urquhart, literally who
>>750239013so more crap like new vegas, which has nothing to do with real 2d fallout games? well then, faggots from v are gonna love this!
>>750239013Tim Cain also loves cocks in his mouth and ass so expect more of that too
>>750248156>cuckshart>in "le same league" with anything other than rancid pajeet shitBWAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Where's Chris Avellone?
>>750266060drunk and unemployed, sleeping in the gutter as usual
>>750239043Imagine having to tard wrangle hordes or trannies and weirdos responsible for designing and shipping your 100m+ dollar game.
Reminder that R*ddit HATES Avellone now.
>>750267824Oh so that must mean I need to suck his retarded cock right?
>>750267105He did it in one year with New Vegas under super crunch
>>750238705Kinda wholesome that they managed to all get back together. But also sad since they're all washed up hacks now
>>750265669I dont remember any gay shit in fallout 4 doeverbeit
>>750267824did he SA somebody
>>750264781Fallout 1 is the only good 2D Fallout. F2 is the worst game in the series. Even Fallout 3 and 4 are dramatic improvements compared to Fallout 2's shitty writing and lore rape. Avellone turned the entire game into Old World Blues.
>>750268068Sawyer hasn't made any AAA tier games in years it's hard to say if he's washed, he sat on the sidelines during the Outer Worlds and Avowed era. Deadfire was his last and it got good reviews.
>>750268378Fallout 2 improved on 1's systems and quests so it's still good. Actually all major Fallout games are good RPGs except for 4/76 and the interplay spin offs.
>>750238705why is tim cain wearing a yarmulke? i'm nooticing.
>>750239358>>750260005but how did a bunch of women who literally said they don't like Halo and haven't played the games get hired to make a Halo TV show then?
>>750268585Kek
>>750264196You should kill yourself to save yourself from this white mans world, nigger.
>>750268562But the rest of the game is so bad in comparison that being able to push companions gets lost in the shuffle. Every random encounter in Fallout 2 is a horrible unbalanced dumpster fire compared to Fallout 1. The main story is also complete trash and forgettable compared to the master. If the combat is shit, the writing is shit, and the music is recycled, there is nothing else redeemable about the game.
>>750268764okay pajeet.
>>750268829fallout 2 has a lot of shit but it also has great moments of writing. the politics and power play between Redding, New Reno, Vault City and NCR are very compelling. it walked to New Vegas could run.I love Fallout 1 but it was an extremely simplistic game and so was the writing. The settlements and the various factions were essentially just tropes taken from mad max.
>>750268829Also, you basically cannot solve anything in Fallout 2 without brute forcing yourself through via the combat. In Fallout 1, there are so many situations to solve quests via stealth, via dialogue, via combat, via hacking a computer, etc. You had so many options. In Fallout 2, usually your only option to solve a quest is to kill someone, find X item, or to pass a speech check. There aren't alternative ways to solve a quest.
>>750268319He flirted with a woman and she leaked the DMs.
>>750268829It made the Charisma actually useful this around when it was a complete dump stat in 1, the build variety is better in 2, and the quest design is also generally an improvement overall. Also yeah a lot of the tracks are reused from 1 but the new ones in 2 are kino. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzMHvvBqVuY
>>750238705>>Feargus UrquhartLost all interest.
>>750268858I accept your concession.
>>750238705My boy brian fargo better get a crack at that whore named fallout after he releases his game next year.
>>750269184yes, major izzat gain my brahmin saar.
>>750269402This has been said before but a new Fallout CRPG from them would be nice. They made the modern Wasteland games so I literally see no reasons why not
>>750262645If law and order collapsed, humans would band together and form lynch mobs if someone decided to rape a person from the village and/or city. You can see this today in third world African nations. There would still be bands of raiders led by warlords that would be raping if the villagers aren't strong enough to drive them off but the lynch mobs would deter most other people. It wouldn't be as common place as the sex starved incels on /v/ wished it would be but it would definitely be increased compared to what we experience in the first world.
>>750238705The egos of these people. Like any of their names mean anything.
>>750238705all their writing will be scrutinized and edited by blue haired trannies like all AAA slop games these days
>>750269557Yeah just give them a 50-100 million budget to make a high quality fallout crpg that's basically just wasteland 4. They might need to add some romance able characters so they can get the bg3 normie fags.
>>750238705An Obsidian written game? Are they gonna make it about colonialism again?
>>750269901They should somehow get avellon as a work from home contractor writer so he doesn't have to interact with feargus.
>>750264774>24yrs of nothing
>>750268691Because it isn't about liking the franchise, it's about politicsThose women were hired because they were woke and pushing the retardation the studio wanted them to pushTim Cain could easily say he fucking hates the original Fallouts and be fine, it's saying he hates Bethesda Fallout or the messaging that'd fuck him in the ass
>>750238894>good systems designer>makes all stats function the opposite how they do in other rpgs for no reason>gets so bent about seeing players still minmaxing he rebalances the game every patch to make their build as unfun as possible
>>750270757Do the patches really matter when the game is going to be made on the creation engine so u rebalance the game however u want with mods
>>750270842>the game is going to be made on the creation engine?
>>750271274You think their fallout game going to be a ue5 slop game when they can just use bethesda's in house engine so they can sell paid mods for years to come.
>>750269446>jeets are against rapeYou are genuiely retarded lmaoI guess it comes with being brown, so you cant help it
>>750238705>Josh Sawyer: Project Lead and a Main Writer of New Vegas, Project Lead of New Fallout Project[KEK] options confirmed!
>>750238807>Creator of Fallout, Consultant for New Fallout ProjectIs that any surprise? The dev team of Fallout 1 kept bullying him for being a raging homosexual and he got super salty over it. He also fucked up the programming of Fallout 1 so bad that there's really annoying bugs like ammo types outright not working. So someone else had to fix his code for him in FO2. Then, rightfully, some genius realized FO2 should be a little less dark and a little more fun for a more enjoyable experience and he left the Fallout IP for good because he just sucked ass (sometimes literally) THAT much.
>>750250548i love daddies
>>750239376Based. W3 was the best in the series and only one i recommend to anyone
>>750270842>does bad thing matter if you can undo it with extra effortYes, you gigantic retard
>>750239362Do I even wanna know?
>>750271640Brian Fargo said that looking back at Wasteland 3 that it ended up being a little too wacky and that if made another Wasteland he would go for a more darker gritty tone.
>>750271693Nigga, If it bothers u that much just install a mod real quick.
>>750271851The amount of effort is irrelevant, it's bad regardless.
>>750270842if i need a mod to fix your game it means your game is bad
>>750265920>Seething about pajeets while while defending Bethesda very dalit of you
>>750243463t. never played a fallout game in his life and just instead listened to retards shitposting over at nma
Motherfuckers in here arguing over an unbalanced game that won't release for another 4 to 5 years
>>750268562>Actually all major Fallout games are good RPGs except for 4/76 and the interplay spin offs.fuck you bos is goodwe need more arpg games like thatthe story and writing might be shit but the gameplay is tight af
>>750272280did you lose your mom in the Walmart aisles, child
>>750270518>woke and pushing the retardation the studio wanted them to pushthat was the old paramountthe new paramount under ellison is just pro-israel propagandaso we might get a better halo show unironically since the covenant are literally space muslims
>>750238827This.
>>750268585>cain
>fallout 2 as the worst game in the seriesAnyone who thinks this is either a troll or a bethesda shill.
>>750238705I don't think I can trust 4 white dudes to create a kino game. They can't possibly be inclusive to all genders, races, and beliefs, with their limited life view.
>>750238705Get Sawyer and urkhart as far away from this game as possible
>>750272904at least two of them are gay so it's alright
>>750268221As man you can romance hancock and mccready
>>750272904This. Be prepared for an incredibly transphobic game. Yuck!
>>750272906You sure you dont want tim cain and Leonard boyarsky the two guys in charge of outerworlds 1&2 to be removed instead?
>>750239376>you're never gonna get something like underrail + fallout from a larger studioI didn't think we'd get a traditional CRPG again in the Baldur's Gate series but it happened, it's not impossible
>>750238705Ehh...I'm not too mad about it. We'll see.
>>750273191BG3 is a "traditional CRPG" the same way Dragon Age: Origins is a "traditional CRPG". So not really.
>>750238705They're old fucks who had their time in the sun but haven't made anything worthwhile in years, what makes you think that's going to change now
>>750273574Josh sawyer's game pentiment was pretty good for what it was.
>>750273525BG3 is nothing like Dragon Age, play games before talking about them, you'll look less stupid that way
>>750273668You are the one claiming TRADITIONAL CRPG. Please understand words before using them, you'll look less stupid that way.
>>750273574The systems that they invented for Pillars is still one of the best renditions and modernizations of any CRPG system put into a video game. It's the one thing Bioware tried to capture before they went full retard in putting more action and cinematics into CRPGs.
>>750238705>Tim Cain, the washed up has-been flamboyantly faggot scammer>Josh Sawyer, the retard who consistently writes the dumbest shit but thinks he's a genius>Boyarsky... well, he might be ok? But he's being managed by retards>Urquhart, the uber jew slimebagHAH this game is going to be fucking awful
Where's Avellone?
>>750275551Would chris avellone being hired as a contractor save this game?
>>750275594Drunkposting on twitter again
>>750275645Avellone has straight up bad blood with Urquhart. It's one of the major reasons for his departure from Obsidian, there's no news if they've mended their relationship. So if Feargus is on this team, Chris will most likely not come back.
Yes white nerds. Atom be praised!
>>750275594Avellone has a death grudge against pretty much everyone at Obsidian now for turning on him over a completely baseless SA accusation that was debunked in court
>>750276538Then he should make his own Fallout game, with blackjack and hookers.
>>750275824Hmm I wonder if he would be down to join inxile if their next game is a fallout game. He knows brian fargo from his days at interplay.
I didn't even know that Tyranny was Avellone's idea. For how unfinished and half-baked that game is, its story and world is incredibly fresh.
>>750238705*sigh* we just keep winning
>>750238705Tim, Boyarski, and Sawyer are fine.Feargus has always been a dunce.
>>750239362>>750247552>>750271694Appears to be a bike shop in California, Josh Sawyer is a bicyclist in California.
>>750275824Avellone will never work with Obsidian until all of upper management, Feargus, and those who disowned him for the false allegations are gone. IIRC one big thing that made him hate Obsidian is they used his sick mother as leverage for something.
>>750257506rpgcodex is fine
>>750238705AVENGERS ASSEMBLED YEAH!
>>750238705I'm sorry. It's 40 years old max for any serious creative work. 40+ can be an advisor but not in the helm.
>>750281876Itoi was literally 40 years old when he made Mother 1.
>>750239358Tim Cain's Steam profile used to be public for a while and he had a fuckton of hours on both Fallout 3 and 4https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197979050578/
>>750275594Avellone had this strange phase (probably linked to his drinking problem) where he made an account on RPG Codex (an extremist website) and posted long diatribes about how much he hated everyone at Obsidian. He has burned all the bridges.
>>750252665>wrote all of my favorite video game charactersFucking same. This new Fallout, even if it's great, will be lacking something without him.
>>750282994what a huge cunt. also he's literally me
>>750238705I love him so much /v/ros!
>>750238705Same guys who did Outer Worlds. It is going to suck ass.
>>750239956Only the FO1 gronards think poorly because the "tone" was more campy and pulp-scifi instead of the more grounded survivalist themes of the first. The vast majority of fallout "fans" are those who came after Fo3 and Fo4 overemphasized the retro-futurusim part rather than the post-apocalypse part and thus see Fo2 as the highlight.Its why this new project seems really fucking stupid just from the resumes. Its staffed by 2 writers who did not like Fo2 and 2 guys who did nothing but build off of Fo2
>>750238705"they/them" will do everything in their power to make this project fail because if it succeeds it will prove you can just put people who know what they are doing in charge and it will work.they cant allow for a project lead by 4 white guys to be a success.inb4 someone point out that tim is gay: white gay dudes are straight adjacent.
>>750271630>some genius realized FO2 should be a little less dark and a little more fun for a more enjoyable experience and he left the Fallout IP for goodHe was right, I played both FO1 and FO2 a year ago (never played the Bethesda games) and the latter felt like the progenitor of quirky chungus millennial reddit writing.Sometimes at least. Some areas had a completely different tone. It was all over the place to the point I couldn't really get invested as I did with the first game.
I never asked for this. I wanted them to give the Fallout to InXile so they can make another cRPG. And for Tim to seethe more at Brian Fargo.
>>750268378chester bennington yourself
>>750238705I expect Ron Perlman's monologue in the beginning to start with "YOU SEE THAT LIL DONNIE!?"
>>750284175This would have been the play.Wasteland 3 was outstanding.Best fallout game in like 20 years
>>750284175Xbox insider jizz corden said that inxile has been incubating their next game for a while now and he's said that it's almost definitely a fallout game.
>>750284095This. Idk what that anon is talking about but the tone of the first game was unmatched and I would've left to if it was changed to reddit humor.
>>750271446Their previous games were all UE, why would their new game not be?
>>750238705Was Tim the one who said the TV show was great and faithful to the games?
>>750284801Theor previous weren't fallout and they were all in development before xbox acquired bethesda. Why pay epic to use their engine when u can use an in house engine and make money off of selling mods
>>750283498
>>750284874He is not an internet contrarian and the show is incredibly successful.
>>750285014Kek
>>750282994>(an extremist website)lol
>>750238705>four boring wh*te moids
>>750271851Literal goyslave mindset
>>750284874The first season at least. I think he might have issue with the second, which more people liked.
>>750262425Sawyer was a regular poster on LF, the lefty politis forum on Something Awful where a lot of later tumblr/twitter leftism came from. Funny story, he's responsible for the breakup of Lowtax and his fiance back in the day (Integral) because she blew off something with Lowtax to fuck Sawyer.
>>750257448Sawyer is a lefty but he also seems reasonable enough tor realize that characters exist as their own thing and thus don't need to reflect his own views. He wrote Caesar in a way that made the character interesting and Caesar is the complete opposite of him politically and Graham is a pseudo-religious Punisher type as well, again far cry from a lefty.
We're going down, down to the vault undergroundAnd sugar, we're going down swingingI'll be your number one with a Pip-BoyA loaded Todd complex, cock it and pull it
>>750238705I love this niggas like you wouldn't believe especially TimHis YouTube channel is also super kino
>>750284801Imagine the amount of money they would make off of paid mods for a fallout game on the creation engine and not a brutally average new scifi rpg ip
>>750239043I'm so sad about the shadowrun cancellation.I really loved the trilogy despite how janky it wasThe stories were really good and the world too.
>>750286068Hey, some characters will be reused for Fallout. I wonder what they will be.
>>750261831Fargo got to make a Wasteland 2 and 3 so i cant hate him.
>>750286068If their fallout game sells a shit ton then i think asha would loosen the leash on them and let them make a small team to continue development on it.
>>750286136Eiger (my wife)Trust
>>750261831They made up. Tim forgave brian for calling him a faggot during his days at interplay
>>750262937Its a shame when the old guys drink the kool aid.
>>750269402Goddamn, Todd and Emil are midgets. Tim Cain is only 5'9 and he looks like their dad here.
>>750286212I hope.I might be coping but crpg games seem to have a but of a resurgence especially in the main gaming market because of BG3 I feel like it's not as risky to fund plus it doesn't cost as much as other genres or need crazy graphics.
>>750268319No he won the court case and got a million in damages paid to him.
>>750272406Finally, the only other man to play BOS.
>>750266060Seething on social media as usual
>>750247509>and no access to women.You remind me of when I used to read about the Loudun possessions, and the excuses modern cucks would come up with to justify the stupidity of women.
>>750238705>Consultant>Project Lead>Lead Designer>Executive ProducerAll meaningless. Who's the director? Who's the narrative lead? Who's the quest designer?
>>750257739If Fallout 2 is supposed to be bad now, then what is the point of Fallout as a franchise?
Fallout 2 is kino https://x.com/biggieU_U/status/2085418709611377113
>>750286398both are wearing platform shoes lmao
>>750286721calm down, they'll hire a professional for that, like Kate Rayner, yeah, she's perfect
BALANCE MAN!!!
>>750238705Its a good sign to have them working on it. Modern game devs are still a trainwreck though so it will be interesting to see if the old white guys can get their staff of blue haired transvestite lunatics and English as a Second Language hindus to make a decent game.
>>750287142Gotta get tried and true industry veterans like Leonard Boyarsky
>>750287260Hopefully they gave tim cain the homosexual the responsibility to fire all LGBT fags in the obsidian office
>>750269402One of them is not like the others.
will the game be good ?
>>750287370Outer Worlds 1 was worse than Fallout 4. I dont think Fallout 4 is a great game but this is the truth.
>>750238705God, it going to suck.just like Fallout 1, Fallout 2 and Fallout NV.
>>750238705>Josh Sawyer: Project Lead and a Main Writer of New Vegas, Project Lead of New Fallout Project- Mr. Sawyer, apologies for calling at this hour, but...- What’s going on?- Someone posted on social media that they’re enjoying... that they’re... having fun with the game.- Quiet, and listen. I need you to note down the exact build, items, and companions they’re using. If they haven’t revealed that information, use one of the [generic user #591] accounts to ask them. I’m 40 minutes away from the office, as soon as I arrive, we can push a patch to balance out their fun.- Yes, sir!
>>750287460Maybe
>>750284095>FO2>1998>millennial writingkill yourself faggot.
>>750287460why do you have this on your drive
>>750238705these four people have 12 different ideas for a fallout game. in the 2? years they have to make this. there will be no less than 5 rewrites, all project leads will be fired, 3 "lets just start over i guess", and enough meltdowns for like 6 books by "games journalists". and then they still will barely get the demo out for gamescom 2029. release will be bugged outta hell. the trannies and jannies rejoice!
>>750238705Leonard lost his aura... Also if the current obsidian team doesn't look like this then I'm not interested
Sawyers getting a little pudgey, huh
>>750287618He spent this whole video calling level scaling garbage and saying how people that want to play an FPS, should just go play and FPS if they are too afraid of having consequence for their actions, like an RPG should have.
>>750287818oh and i forgot the "well if we had enough time and money and talent and xbox wasnt on our ass"
>>750288443Nah, they would just blame godd howard
>>750287698i don't, i googled it
>>750289056Uh huh, sure you did
>>750287501fallout 4 is still better than baldurs gate 3 so ill take that
>Cain spends many vids saying he doesn't do sequels to an existing project>He's now doing a sequel to an existing projectSure he's a consultant, but that's still breaking his rule.
>>750289670Only because you can mod all the women into whores.
>>750286316But did Brian apologize?
>>750286721Pretty sure project lead and director are interchangeable here, so sawyer. I don't think they have a specific quest designer role. No idea who the narrative lead is, maybe john gonzalez since he works there again.
>>750284472I am worried because that steampunk game they’re releasing is giving me Outerworlds vibes.
>>750239013The only thing that was fun about the TV show were the sets. Whoever was in charge of location and prop design was a fan of the series, both old and modern Fallout.
>>750238705I CAN'T WAIT FOR THE GHOUL™ TO BE IN THE MAIN CHARACTER OF THE GAME WHILE THE PLAYER CHARACTER GETS TO WATCH HIM DO COOL THINGS.
>>750290014Yeah, I'm still gonna give it a try at launch because they've earned a modicum of my trust with wasteland 2 and 3. It could be good if the majority of the writing isn't as bad as the recent trailer.
>>750290271I hope we can play as a ghoul
>Fat white boomers Aaaaaand dropped. The last thing I want is more we wuz roman n shiet larp.
maybe we'll finally get a good fucking game
>>750291053What's the dragon age the veilguard troon director up to? Maybe they can hire her to lead the team!
there's nowhere to go but up from bethesdaslop
>>750291216>Muh tranniesJust accept your sexuality.
>>750291370I'm very straight and totally not gay at all!
>>750291053>>750291370sore loser
>>750289912Yes, fargo gets to remake isometic fallout on waste3 engine.
But Wasteland 3 was a step down from Wasteland 2 unless you want your Wasteland games to be more arcade-y.
>>750291861Step down from 2, but a massive improvement in gameplay and build mechanics compared to BG3 which at this point is the measuring stick for cRPGs.
>>750291861Yes W3 was a step down but its still head and shoulders above the crpg contemperaries. Besides Owlbear games there arent big name crpgs that try.
>>750292049Iron Tower Studios (Vince D. Weller at this point should be a known name in cRPG circles) and Stygian Software.
Wasteland 3 was a damn good game especially for a Kickstarter game with like a budget of 5 million. Imagine what they could do with 30-50 million budget for Wasteland 4 or a fallout crpg.
>>750285959I watched his videos because I'm an indie dev and wanted some pro adviceAfter 10 hours of videos I got nothing out of his pro experience That I need to s tart with my game design document, I guessBut nothing else of notice
>>750292049Deadfire > Wasteland 3.
>>750238705Chris Avellone says Feargus is a crook.
>>750238705>Do you trust them to save itI don't actually. They are completely compromised. And Sawyer wasn't part of the original team anyway
>>750292362Not surprised. He looks like a fag and his name is very faggy
>>750289852all the women in BG3 are already whores, so that's not it.
>>750284917Outer Worlds 2 was not in development pre-acquisition, neither was Avowed.Why would their new game be on an engine from an entirely different studio? It's not like Bethesda's made anything recently for them to use.>>750285973Having a studio filled with UE technicians move to a proprietary, 3d party engine costs more than the game would make in paid mod sales
>>750292498Yeah but they're ugly whores, and no one got time for that.
>>750291370sorry to hear about your layoff from bioware.
>>750256365Nah, house was perfect.Season 2 had literal the shield aura, back when nobody knew that mackey was the drug dealer.
>>750238705>>750238827>>750272790>SawyerYeah this game is going to be shitTimestamp btwhttps://youtu.be/0pLft_FQPFo?si=2IHlLRSIHOD8mJUt&t=19946
>>750292509The short term pain of make obsidian learn an in house engine will pay off in the long term. They started full development around the same time bethesda got bought.
>>750291598>>750291706>>750292589Weird seeing self proclaimed heteros always mentioning trannies. Truly closet faggot behaviour.
>>750292789First he makes a shit mod now hes complaining about Coen Brothers. This guy got problems.
>>750293095Yeah he's from Wisconsin
>>750293095Its true actually. Anyone that's watched Ballad of Buster Scruggs would know there are actually non-white people in appropriately cast roles. The native americans that appear are meant to represent myth and metaphor. Maybe it'd spark some anti-colonialist rant from him if he got into it further but it just makes him sound like he's been brainrotted by social media. Its sad to see, since he made such good games in the past.
>>750293052no, what's weird is you stupid trannies trying to shove yourselves into everyone's faces then trying to delusionally pretend that they're "mentioning you" without cause when in reality they're telling you to fuck off, stop faggoting game development studios, and stop bothering them with incessant tranny shitposts.
>>750293052I'm just calling you a sore loser anon. Bioware hasn't turned a profit in over a decade. Let it go. Don't let this be the hill you die on.
>>750291216>Wizards of the Coast Hires Former Dragon Age: The Veilguard DirectorBG4.
>>750293052none of the three posts you replied to even mentioned trannies. you creatures are so lacking in self-awareness that it would be comical if you weren't trying to destroy everything that normal people enjoy.
>>750293365>>750293379Definitely an obsession. But never a self aware insightful moment. It almost seems the brain is protecting itself from the truth.
>>750292793That game took 6yrs, what the fuck? Still, I doubt they'll be using Creation Engine, considering Bethesda is still working on it for TES6.
>>750293549Obsession with what? Why are you being such a sore loser?
>>750238705all they have to do is take new vegas, make it bigger and prettier. they surely can't fumble this one, right?
>>750293636How you being a closet faggot is making me a loser?
>>750293443larian isn't owned by wotc nor even located in the USA. the tranny dude from veilguard was put into a studio called Skeleton Key which after looking at their site I still could not tell you what their purpose actually is, because it's full of lefty LGPTQ culture gibberish and doesn't seem to have any actual projects or products.
>>750293691see >>750293379I never said anything about trannies. You're just grasping at straws because your company shut down.
>>750293257I dont care a lot of his opinions on movies but his FNV mod is trite and bad balance. Mostly giving all of the legion negative karma so you get good karma for killing them ferls like he misses the point of the whole conflict.
>>750293549>unironic "no u">trying to turn attention back on itselfjesus christ this homosexual man is retarded.
>>750293905I never mentioned trannies either. You have to take it with the closet faggot whim started it.
>>750293257that was a good movie but I totally went in thinking the whole thing would be a comedy
>>750293052>I never mentioned trannies either.>>750293052>Weird seeing self proclaimed heteros always mentioning tranniesNo wonder your stupid ass got fired.
>>750293689well..
>>750293689I'm tired of west coast fallout. I want an entirely new region with entirely new lore. Give me like, pacific northwest or chicago and the great lakes, or florida or the gulf of mexico or something.
>>750294326This. I will always detest F76 for using such a good region for their shitty live service game
>>750294096Got fired? What are you talking about?
>>750294386oh man I loved the forest bits and townssuch a shame
>>750285014jej
>>750294326The only lore i remember about the pacific northwest is they are cannibals.
>>750294326Not the pacific onions west...
>>750293931Most of the legion is made up of violent tribals so it makes sense, though, only the upper echelons of the legion are capable of higher reason and civility. They're all basically orcs and goblins led by a few humans.
>>750295023This backstory would have been realistic if they had kept all the leadership white but made the legion footsoldiers black and hispanic.
>>750295109That's represented by the powder gangers already though
>>750295023The rank and file know not what they are doing. Hell even some of the higher ups seem kinda slow. Labeling them all as so evil that killing them makes the world better makes the whole system dumb.
>>750293931pretty sure legion being evil is just vanilla NV, not the mod. The whole karma system was fucked up and pointless, the mistake was not just removing it completely.
