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This sucks
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You suck and youre gay
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It's incredibly mediocre
Shooterfags just want to join a game and immediately aim and kill people, Mobafags don't want to aim and are restricted to being effective with the tank/support characters. This game caters to nobody, don't know what valve was thinking making this
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i dont see people who play this game and others like it as fully human
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>>750247004
its good, but I worry about how they're going to monetize it
If they fuck it up it'll kill their main userbase of NEETs, unemployed trannies, russians, and poor white people from the midwest (yes these demographics often overlap)
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>>750247004
>Steam Controller is good but impossible to get
>Steam Machine is a meme and impossible to get
>Steam Frame is a meme and impossible to get
>New Steam Decks went up by like $300
>Their primary vidya project for years is shit
>Steam SlopFest turned into Steam AISlopFest
>HL3 NEVEREVER
>More people are abandoning Linux than ever
Genuinely, what does Valve even do in 2026?
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>>750247004
Literally and will always be. A skill issue
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>>750247004
it's not for shitters
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its my favorite game atm
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It was good today with some friends. But that was only one match. Tomorrow, it'll be 10 major losses back to back. Assfaggots
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>>750247004
>remove Pocket or stop with the "they" non-binary bullshit
>remove Violet or fire her voice actor and change her personality so that she's not an obvious OC of some striver asian with tiger parents
>make Calico less ugly
>cease all moderation of the in-game chat
I will now play your game.
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Game is full of dyke lesbians, gays and trannies but surely it must be good
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>>750247004
Yeah. Visual way too much going on at all times. Too much HUD in the way. I have to learn 40x4 abilities to know the characters.

Graphics and source 2 look great. I'd prefer TF3 was their overwatch competitor.
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>>750247004
>/v/ in charge of knowing what a good game is
let me guess, you lost a game
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>>750247004
we must make a stand and stop them
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>>750249414
Isn't Calico still using Neon Prime design anyway?
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>>750247004
I still don't get how the towers work, sometimes the enemy walker primes a stomp before I walk in meanwhile mine lets the opponents walk scott-free under it
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Unfortunately I am becoming addicted to it
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>>750253097
I love Harrow so much it pulled me to normal games again
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>>750250867
The game is nowhere near as good as when your image was made.
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>>750253418
Yeah, it's way better now
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>>750253872
poor kelvin got nerfed to oblivion
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>>750247004
tfw played since June 2024 thanks to a thread on /v/, thank you bros
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Bless the mods
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Danny is an overtuned piece of shit with 0 risk taken once you put three points into his dive. Sure do love a point and click ult, flamethrower triggering toxic bullets and a healing stunning dive
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>Lane as normal
>Suddenly enemy starts raping and the rape doesnt stop even with some lucky picks
I can't understand this game at all
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>>750254257
you see if you dare go for one crate you lose a tower, while they go farm the entire map their walkers handle the waves
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>>750249414
>remove Violet or fire her voice actor and change her personality so that she's not an obvious OC of some striver asian with tiger parents
>xhe chimps out and leaves with all the copyrighted map assets
>now need to hire another one
>new one also becomes an entitled nigger and demands xis OC made as a character
>the vicious cycle continues
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>>750254313
you mean celeste
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>>750247004
The game looks like some fake made up game you would see being plaid in the background of some movie or series.
It's just so corporately sterile looking. Soulless
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>>750254395
which games count as soulful to you
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why does shiv look like a fucking monkey
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>>750254293
This but unironically holy shit it hurts to play
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>>750254868
that's why I prefer brool, it's a quick CBT instead of a dragging one
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>>750254868
>the old load screen
sovl
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>>750247004
Gotta wait for the PvE game mode to drop
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>>750253872
>worse visibility
>ruined artstyle
>trannybait characters
>foidbait characters
>runs worse with every update
Indeed xister, it's peak
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>>750255030
>worse visibility
wrong
>ruined artstyle
old deadlock literally had no artstyle
>trannybait characters
projection
>foidbait characters
true but inevitable for any game with a roster size above 20
>runs worse with every update
running a 1060 and getting a solid 60fps outside of a recent bug with violet's walls that chunks the framerate, but i'm sure that'll get patched since it's also affecting my friends with rigs that aren't potatos
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this game is fun but you REALLY need a team of friends to bear through ranked or normal games
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>>750254868
How old is that screenshot
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>>750247004
I hate the farming aspect. It's tedious to run around breaking boxes and shoot static NPCs for 30+ minutes only for the entire game to come down to 1 teamfight.
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>>750249414
i do not want idpol retards playing this game so i hope no changes are made
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>>750255410
I made it almost two years ago
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>>750255329
How is worse visibility wrong, the game plays at night, every fucking character has AoE slop ult that covers all your screen, things like Solomon chess pieces or graves tomb and zombies, the map is bloated with detail which is like cool if you just go through the map in demo but not in a sweaty ultra competitive 6v6 game
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>>750254868
i played during these times
didnt it get to 7k at one point? one of those players was me
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Towers are too weak, even when compared to dota
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>>750255476
>It's tedious to run around breaking boxes and shoot static NPCs for 30+ minutes
So play a character who doesn't really do that. Rat King's job, for example, is to always be present for teamfights to soak up damage and press 4. Even when you need to farm with him you can pretty much just press 1 and walk away while your grenade does all the work for you.
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>>750255507
>the game plays at night
Irrelevant, the area has a darker color palette but is generally well-lit because it's fucking NYC
>every fucking character has AoE slop ult that covers all your screen,
And most of them are clearly recognizable through distinct visuals and sound cues
>things like Solomon chess pieces or graves tomb and zombies
How the fuck are you having trouble keeping track of Graves and Solomon's shit? They're the easiest things in the world to see. The zombies run in striaght lines and Solomon's chess pieces are huge and emit a loud ticking noise.
>the map is bloated with detail
You might be genuinely retarded.
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>>750255534
Everyone has to do it.
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>>750255598
yeah you are definitely a disingenuous tranny. Even the most hardcore fanatics are complaining about visibility issues at this stage, whatever. Enjoy your troonslop skinnerbox mode.
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>>750255635
Not really, no. Plenty of characters can get by without having to dedicate much, if any, time to farming. Hell, some support characters can effectively never need to bother farming ever if you buy Trophy Collctor earlier and soak up assist stacks.
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>>750255720
Yes really, yes. Don't do it and you lose.
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>>750255679
The only character I would argue rapes visibility right now is Baba because Threadsap covers the entire fucking screen in purple bullshit, everyone else is largely fine. I do have some general issues with the game's HUD (the healthbars still need some work, even if they're a lot better after the new update) but trying to argue it's worse than the ugly ass way early Deadlock looked outs you as a fucking retard.
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>>750255743
>Don't do it and you lose
Wrong. End up at a DEFICIT and don't do it to make that deficit up and you'll lose, sure, but that doesn't happen every game unless you suck.
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>>750255827
No, don't farm and you lose. No ifs or buts.
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>>750255852
where's the fun in that
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>>750255786
oddly for me I don't have much issues with Baba and visibility. For me it's Solomon dropping everything at once
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>>750256289
fucking hell I hate this cunt, so do love the entire lane being covered in slowing tiles
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>>750256454
They need to fix how high the tiles hit you. You can't jump over them. I want to like him but he's kind of "advanced retard" tier right now. The idea of some dude playing chess from a roof is cool, but he's abundance of nonsense is kind of lame. If they made it so you could jump over the tiles I think that would help a lot.
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>>750256554
reminds me of graves and Venator traps magnetizing you to them
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game isn't even out yet and it's already in the terminal stages of hero shooter design with too much cc and aoe making it a complete clusterfuck
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My game is freezing for a second or two when aoeslop is on my screen, this never happened before.
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>>750247004
true.
the game is worthless DEIslop
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>>750254892
After wall jumping was added the game has only gotten worse.
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>>750259163
Go to hero select for voice lines
>Yashimoto
>Speaks Japanese
>Speaks Japanese
>Speaks Japanese
>Speaks Japanese
>Speaks Japanese
Based and funny ngl
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>>750247290
>don't know what valve was thinking making this
or Artifact, or the Steam Deck, or the Steam VR, or HL Alyx or....
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>>750249141
ok boobpleb
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the post that killed deadlock
ive shown this image to deadlock trannies before and they have a melty and immediately start chimping about how they havent wasted hundreds of hours playing autistic tug of war
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>>750262273
I saw one post say that mobas generally are just edging you the whole game, then one actual relevant fight happens and the game ends and this is how it hooks you. Could not look at the genre same anymore. Actually evil, no wonder a gambling company like Valve capitalized on it.
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>>750262273
deadlock has this problem every assfaggots game faces where if you're a new player you're just a worse bot for your team. For some godfosaken reason the enemy team always knows what they're doing but you don't so have fun figuring out everything they know in 5 or so minutes or else they just rape you for games on end and you go 0/10.
>but bro if you play 100 hours and you learn everything it gets good
yeah i could also play a good game for 100 hours where the first 90 aren't spend being fucked sideways
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>>750263261
The 100 hours is also straight up a lie from mobadrones to make it seem more approachable, realistically you will need like a 1000 if you are completely new to the genre and then look back at your games and realize you played like an absolute retard.
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>>750262273
>the objective is to destroy the enemy throne, not just shoot players
>gets annoyed that you have to fight that army in a war
>gets annoyed that there's additional objectives to get your side an advantage
>gets annoyed that you choose how to make your character stronger
>gets annoyed that death has a consequence
>gets annoyed that if you don't push with your army then instead your army gets pushed back
>takes 45 minutes because they aren't doing the objectives
>pretends the game is decided in one teamfight
Whoever made made no attempt to improve, just complain the game had any kind of complexity instead of team deathmath.
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>>750247004
agreed. nuvalve is done for if this faggy piece of shit is what they're putting everything on. all the obnoxious sodomites in the community they keep pandering to while driving away normal people is baffling too
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>>750247554
>Genuinely, what does Valve even do in 2026?
parasite off of their storefront team which makes all the money while hiring sweet baby inc/campo santo. they're in death throes creatively because they hired activists instead of actual talent and it shows
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>>750247469
i wonder if we could glean any idea from decades of tf2, dota, and CS
alas, it will remain a complete enigma until this game gets 1.0/open beta with its own monetisation
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>>750247004
I played 2 games before the store page release and didn't like it. First game was as Lady Gheist (I think that's her name at least), didn't understand shit but somehow won. 2nd game was as Mr. Freeze wanna-be. Was the only one doing kills on our team and ended up losing.
I didn't like that everything's in this game is a damage sponge.
I didn't like the VFX vomit during the hectic fights
I didn't like that it can't decide if it want's to be a fast-paced hero shooter or a medium-pace MOBA

The only thing I liked about this game is it's initial artstyle of pulpy occult americana, and even then it went into shit with recent updates.
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>>750263657
You're so incapable that you can't even hold a discussion. Someone points out whats wrong and you can only say "you're brown" and post wojacks.
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>>750263392
a wise man once said, nothing that is easy is worth doing. But a wiser man said a hard thing that's not useful is also not worth doing and that's where moba's fall for me.
I have to confess my vidya sins, I have terrible taste so I played league of legends and overwatch for god knows how long. So I thought I could transfer that knowlage to deadlock but nope it's the same start all over again, and since becoming a single player chad I don't think I want to invest any time in MOBAs anymore.
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>>750247004
Yeah that's every mobas ever nigga
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>>750263986
no one cares brownoid, return to your f2p infested shithole
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>>750264101
>unrelated points
Each one is directly related to those made in the image
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>>750247004
How many years now of this fruitless attempt to sway public opinion for VALVE?
Infinite propaganda money I guess.
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>>750252719
Nah her neon prime look was way different. Her current model is a quick edit to hazes old model.
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>>750263261
This was me in my first few rounds, especially since I expected it to play like a 2-team MVM from TF2. My shots were like peashooters, but somehow I'd get 2-shot from the other side of the map. I'm clearly dogshit at the game, but the tutorial did fuck all for teaching me how the game works.
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>>750264148
>upset someone actually knows how to play deadlock in his deadlock bashing thread
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>>750264048
>since becoming a single player chad I don't think I want to invest any time in MOBAs anymore.
Same, and I learned my lesson with D*ta. I only regret how many singleplayer vidya I could have played instead of that lmao.
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>WEEEEE I CAN'T LEARN the thread
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>>750247004
>playing a valve moba filled with cheating russians
do you hate yourself?
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>>750264409
The timer extends as the game gets further. You only see 80 second timers if you're pushing past half an hour. It's to actually let games end.
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>>750247004
I like the dialogue and lore
>t do not actually play this game
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>>750247004
Won 5 games lost 2. Game is easy
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>>750264308
why would anyone invest 60+ hours to learn the game even remotely just to play with obnoxious faggots and trannies valve keeps pandering to with their designs?
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>>750263261
So little intelligence. You are supposed to get good so the next lazy fucker like the past you shows up you enjoy smacking him across the map
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>>750264598
>xhe thinks it takes 60 hours to learn how to play a game
embarrassing, I spent 20 minutes fucking around in the shop and test ground, did a single bot game and knew how to go from there.
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>>750264598
Anon a game with a skill level is good. Things like wall bouncing is a great filter for get good and not even reading the entire shop is definition of get good as well. You are just another drone that wants to play TDM for every new game that comes out.
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>>750264689
The other points don't need explaining, they are basic parts of the genre and overall games progression.
I don't know why you're here if you have such an issue with them. It's not going to change for you.
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>>750247004
No, this sucks
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>>750247004
I played it very briefly and it genuinely felt like the worst parts of hero shooters and MOBAs combined. Perhaps one of the least fun games I've ever played.
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>tfw someone tries to establish a collective narrative about a game using 4channel /v/ - video games
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I wish characters had a secondary weapon. Or some kind of weapon variety. Getting stuck with the same gun all game is unironically ass
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>>750264735
being daft on purpose is not a virtue anon. obviously knowing there are three lines, an item shop, and that you have to push towards enemy's hq takes 20 minutes, but now actually get into a game with other people and realize you don't understand the visual vomit vfx of your enemies and are now consistently cc'd up the ass for 6 seconds without being able to do anything. actually understanding what they're doing and how to counter them will take 60+ hours at the minimum
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Is the best way to play him just to focus gun?
Feels like everything he has just tickles people.
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>>750265353
Hybrid.
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>>750253890
Coming back after a year and seeing what they did to beam and ice path was such a ballbuster, even the nade heals when the new nurse char can pump like 10k aoe healing in seconds once she gets ricochet lmao.
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>>750265137
Good thing all things have a clear icon, sound and even show the name of the thing affecting you.
FX doesn't happen for no reason either. It's all clear enough that players can learn exactly whats effecting them. It's just taking the time to learn it.
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>>750254251
no team fight win button so his winrate stays below 50 so he's balanced
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>>750255476
They move now though.
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>>750264598
Why would you invest years of your life into living then? Not like you will achieve anything while still playing with those undesirables.
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>>750254868
Deadlock should honestly just stay irrelevant to not get infested with normalfags, but not too irrelevant for Valve to drop it like TF2
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>>750266205
...what?
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>>750266347
>if I pretend I am stupid...
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>>750266435
no I seriously don't get what you meant
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gay faggot game
gay faggot fanbase
gay faggot company
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>>750247004
I'm not a stranger to MOBAs and hero shooters. Deadlock is a dumbed down mash of the two. It's babby's first MOBA mixed with babby's first hero shooter.
Why is it popular? Well, it can run on a potato PC and it has "quirky chungus" characters. Both are very big factors with people under 30.
But seriously I can put on a Deadlock stream if I can't sleep and I'm out cold in 10 minutes. It's just so fucking boring to me and it innovates nothing.
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>>750266701
>Game sucks because its boring to watch a stream of
Wow
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>>750266589
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It used to be good but holy shit the design shift into generic Chinese mobile characters is very apparent and sucks the soul out.
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>>750263127
I wish troons would stick to their representatives of Pocket and Celeste instead of trying to go for Ivy.
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>>750266701
also browns anon
browns love garbage like this
especially if it runs on almost anything
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Are there any healer supports that actually still do damage? Harrow seems a bit too tf2 medic. I need a halfway point or something.
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>>750266589
give us a straight game then
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>>750247004
If trannies like a game, its usually bad
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>>750267332
nigga harrow NEEDS to deal dmg to recharge her needles
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>>750267368
NBA 2K
Madden
Modern Warfare
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>>750255516
Winter 2024 was rough as a fan of the game. It dropped to like 7k or something and everyone would just laugh at you if you tried to bring up how fucking amazing the game felt to play.
I also went through Artifact and Underlords and liked both only to have them both abandoned by Valve due to low player count so I was nervous it would happen again.

The 4 Heroes update in early 2025 did nothing to up the player count either so that was even worse.
Thankfully once the 6 heroes update hit the game was basically guaranteed success.
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>>750265353
Builds oftentimes cap out at 2-3 gun items and primarily focus on spirit and greens from there, his kit relies a lot on you popping marks for damage, and overheating into your ultimate is a potent combo that gets amplified by building spirit
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>>750267332
She has solid damage if you have good aim, max leeches gives like 90% fire rate or something crazy
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>>750267332
Dynamo pulses chunk enemy health. His black hole does % damage at the max level.
Paige has massive damage output from her abilities.
If you build ivy to heal and put the rest into gun then you can somewhat sustain a teammate through lifesteal and teather to heal both of you.
Kelvin grenades is a constant source of heal whilst damaging too. Surge of power on the beam along with usual spirit investment quickly eats away at enemies.

There's plenty of options and the role played is determined by the items you get more than heroes. If you want to be supporting then just buy supporting items.
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>>750266762
There, it's still fucking boring, you happy?
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>>750247004
old /v/ would never defend this game like it does now
truly goes to show how lost this board is now
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>>750267662
old /v/ would ignore your twitter shit in an instant attention whore
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>>750267662
Oh look, a free win.
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>>750267662
This pictures like going on TF2 and complaining about idle servers or clicking a random server and finding out you're joining "the furry pound".
Just because some players do a thing, doesn't mean all players do it.
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>>750267758
It looks like half of the lobby is actually playing the game, hard to tell how many players are participating in the tranny rp
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>>750267538
>comparing closed beta to open beta playercount and thinking the numbers grew because of nu heroes, not despite them
lawl. they threw away the game's identity in favor of furfaggotry and some sort of gook self-insert. it's done
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>>750253418
When that image was made the community with filled with people pathetically drunk on a "secret club" mentality. To the point that if you were one of the people who had gotten access and said you didn't like the game they just flat out accused you of being someone who hadn't gotten access. They were that obsessed with the idea that they got to play the game and others didn't and that unprepared to consider the possibility that not everyone who plays the game magically liked it.
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>>750267538
I really don't like Dota's ability icons.
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>>750267662
>Pic
I don't really care what faggots on Twitter think. Why do you?
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>>750247004
Deadlock has it's queer audience but it is a legitimately bad game
It has every problem hero shooters and dota 2 has combined

Everyone is miserable playing the game, everyone copes about it.

There are so many great things stuck in this bad game, I understand why queers want to defend it, but Icefrog is not capable of fixing these issues, look at the state of dota 2.

I ask, if you are going to force yourself to play this game, just make sure to take breaks, multiple people in my friend group have had mental breakdowns because of the toxic gameplay in Deadlock and I just want to remind people that it's just a game, don't force yourself to play it
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i always do well in the starting 2v2 phase of the game but later on when teamfights start happening it's kinda of a coinflip of weather we get rolled or we do the rolling
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>>750247290
They wanted to capture the Gunz and Dota crowd, but it isn't dynamic enough to be a Gunz clone, and it is too dynamic for your average RTS/Moba task manager fag.
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I was resigned to the Deadlock character art style and themes slippery sloping over time just like TF2 and DotA2, but holy shit it went right off a cliff before release. Didn't even take cosmetic content, they're just adding stupid characters.
>half-demon detective that wanders the streets of NYC solving occult crimes, channels magic through an arcane tome to help him fight supernatural threats
then we got
>guy who likes punk music but he's also a goat (get it, like Baphomet, even though the character itself has no occult characteristics or theming at all, we put a goat head on him so it works haha)
then we got
>every Asian girl who went to CalArts in 2010
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>>750249414
If Deadlock abandoned it's progressive themes the game would flatline, it's one of the only reasons people are playing

The queer community adopted Deadlock after Overwatch abandoned them, it's their game, it's by queers, for queers, and it shows that we can show up and support.
I just wish it wasn't such a toxic to play game, it's legitimately bad for mental health
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>>750268340
>appeal to us sodomites or else your game flatlines
nice delusions of grandeur. too bad you fags are broke due to prep and drug abuse so valve will see no return on their investment and will go eos faster than if it wouldn't have pandered exclusively to the mentally ill. oops
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>>750267662
You're telling me if I call some tr00n a he I get a free win? Please tell me I can sell mmr on this game.
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>>750254257
The game is infested with hackers with slide scripts for infinite ammo during slides.
The game enables some of the most toxic gameplay imaginable from cheaters, and you can't complain about it or you are a bad ally for criticizing a queer game
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>>750247590
NTA but im eternus and think the game also sucks ass right now, whats the next cope?
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>>750268231
Visually the goat character has a great design, you could do a whole lot worse on characters to whine about. The horned circus performer chick is actual bad design. That shit's like half a dozen themes just mashed together with no coherence.
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>>750267967
i was part of that club and can confirm it was 10x better. Everyone was nice to each other, there was 0 flaming and people just wanted to have fun with the game. There was no forced 50% matchmaking so if you were good you could actually carry almost all games. It is as they said: you were not a part of it
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>>750268602
Where did I say I want every game to be queer??
This is a game made by queer devs for queer players, this is a literal fact, sorry if that hurts your feelings
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>>750255635
I don't farm ever, i only brool and zipline to my next brool. I don't think i've killed a single neutral creep in my last 5 games. It's fun.
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>>750268758
i saw a video about a foid that worked on comics and she rated the designs. She gave very high scores to violet and celeste, while giving poorer scores to paige and mina. very geggy stuff. As always, blame foids (and the other usual suspects i guess)
>>750268758
i really like billy, and have been playing him a lot lately. Anarchism easily started well before the events of the game, but his "graffity style" is very cringe and non fitting to the setting. Also, i hate that they made him friends with violet, feels like xer creator (which clearly made xer his self insert troon OC) would cry if billy made fun of xer
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>>750268879
nta but it's a moba, anyone with a brain knows that if you give it time it would eventually turn to shit with no changes whatsoever to the game's roster or balance. You were there for the period where people were still fucking around and haven't figured out what works and what your teammates will do to drag you down.
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>>750268073
I can't play with one of my friend groups when one specific person joins the party because he constantly bitches and whines whenever something goes wrong.
He's the kinda brick player that will never look at his own gameplay and think about his mistakes, it's always someone/something else's fault.
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>>750268998
lol, this is incredbly disingenuous or you just started out the game/play in unironic brick rank
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>>750250867
you got the one gif with Kelvin and Ivy?
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>DEIlock
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>>750264308
There was a reason to learn dota 2 back in the day, it was like a more advanced version of chess, your game knowledge was tied to whether you could figure out how to win even in a team game.

Modern dota 2 is rng dogshit, no amount of learning or good decision making can save your game or team, your team has to have better rng than your opponents and that's it.

Deadlock is modern dota 2, plus hackers, it's awful
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>>750269141
Yeah I'll cede that it does feel a bit anachronistic the way they it's portrayed considering the time period but I can't deny that they took the punk rock anarchy theme and executed it well on its face. If they axed the graffiti aspect it would be better I agree. I'll forever give this game credit for making a bunch of the reloads fun quake-style utter nonsense, and him eating the mag is a nice touch.
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>>750269454
A bad player blames luck
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>>750254313
I severely doubt valve would let a random employee own the studio made key assets for one of their flagship games.
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why do I never get the good haze or gaytalons on my side
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>>750254293
I hope the walkers and creeps interact in a deterministic way where X creeps always deal Y damage to a walker before dying. If random pathing determines the push potential of a creep wave that's retarded.
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>>750254313
>xhe chimps out and leaves with all the copyrighted map assets
How dumb do you have to be to think that some random dev owns the map? If it's a character designed by like one of the executives maybe but then firing is off the table to begin with.
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>>750263261
>>750263392
I don't know about other mobas but learning and getting better at it is the fun part and the skill floor is low enough that being literally useless only lasts a couple matches
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>>750268684
>The game enables some of the most toxic gameplay imaginable from cheaters, and you can't complain about it or you are a bad ally for criticizing a queer game
it's also filled with russian, with whore mothers, who never teached them any manners so you will have a cheater in every single game.
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>>750262273
If that stuff didn't make the game fun, street brawl would be more fun than normal deadlock, but street brawl is trash while normal deadlock is fun.
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>>750269991
Street brawl is fun when I get graves
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>>750269569
Every dota 2 pro calls out the state of the game, Icefrog took the skill out of the game, but it didn't make it more accessible and fun for casuals
Deadlock is the same, the game is a convoluted mess of ideas

I'm upset that the queer community abandoned Marathon and adopted Deadlock, when Marathon has much better game fundamentals, Marathon is fixable, Deadlock isn't
But now I'm going to be forced to play this for the next year+ because we have to stand in solidarity or something because I like cocks, I hate it here
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>>750247004
I tried it last week, it feels too much like fortnite to me (without the building ofc) and most characters are a bit too quirky for my likes. But I get why it's popular and I WILL listen to vypers voicelines on repeat
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>>750270112
Don't like it because you're at the mercy of the RNG and all strategy is sucked out of the game, plus you're only teamfighting so there are no ganks or skirmishes, which arguably are more fun
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>>750269145
Cars should become an item.
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>>750247004
it's too complex for normaloids. too many hiden mechanics and decision making. it's fun tho
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>>750268758
I think celeste looks pretty good with the leather jacket, issue with her character is
1) her drawing tumblrinas like moths to a flame
2) the fucking skillset is stupid AoE spell vomit and the bitch is tanky as fuck for some reason despite being built like an AIDS patient
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>>750270178
>now im forced to play this
What breed of cuckolding is this.
You're forced to play the game that you bitch and moan about because another game of a completely different genre was a critical and financial fuckup?
>I like cocks
I don't even need to call you a faggot, you admitted it for me.
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I'm too pussy to play normal match
Streets brawl is enough to me, it reminds me paladins
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I'm an EUtard and every player is a normal person with a bias towards retard ragers and racists, but when matchmaking freaks out and put me with americans suddenly everyone becomes a "yuri diaperfur" and starts talking about femboys before going 1/9/7
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>>750270595
That would explain so much if the reason most deadlock threads turn into DEI moaning is because of american degeneracy.
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>>750247004
its crazy how tranny filled this game's player base is, it's so off putting. They're the self righteous discord types as well.
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>>750247290
overwatch, valorant, rainbow 6 siege and apex legends have been out for years man. there's a category of shooterfags that know how to use abilities and gay fucking movement mechanics
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>>750268073
>It has every problem hero shooters and dota 2 has combined
>Everyone is miserable playing the game, everyone copes about it.
Seriously what the fuck is up with this genre? I had a friend invite me to play for the first time last week and after like 30 minutes of him briefly going over how to play, three of his friends joined the call and we started doing street brawl and for the next three hours they were all fucking miserable.
It was just non-stop bitching about how something bullshit had happened or how bad one of the teammates were or how the balance on some character or item was fucked...even when somebody was doing well, there was no joy behind it, like anything going well was some routine everyone had already gotten sick of and wasn't even worth acknowledging.
And these people all have several hundred hours in the game. The fuck is wrong with moba players?
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>>750269141
Billy not hating violet is quite strange, he's usually extremely critical when talking to other characters because they aren't fighting to change the world but violet goes "dude I smoke weed and draw lol" and he respects her
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I honestly don't expect deadlock to live for very long, which is in years speaking, not because of the retarded political faggotry noise that goes off in these threads, but because valve is incredibly fucking incompetent nowadays and icefrog jumped the shark with 7.0 in dota 2; I find it funny they're already considering monetising the game with their lootbox nonsense.

I don't even hate deadlock, I just hate valve's guts as a company with their IP treatment:
>do nothing with your older games
>get money
>do the bare minimum for old games if people flip a tit
>get good press despite doing nothing yourself and handing the work over to someone else who wanted to: for free
fuck you icefrog and your faggot fucking balancing.
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>>750270442
Yes, my friendgroup is convinced we have to be obsessed with Deadlock because its super queer, meanwhile it was like pulling teeth with them to play Marathon even with the great updates it was coming out with that fixed the things they complained about
But I can't say anything otherwise I'm doomering

We have plenty of other things to play together, but I get demanded to play this awful game because I'm dedicated support and every other support fill around is is worse than me, so it somehow falls on me to play this infuriating game where we all bitch about it after we play and then do it again tomorrow
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>>750270886
Sounds like they don't want to look at how to overcome an issue, just moan about it and say its unfair to make themselves feel better.
And in street brawl too, the mode made for learning heroes and items without the commitment of a full game.
I enjoy deadlock but wouldn't subject myself to 3 hours of street brawl. It's a warmup at best.
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>>750270886
Deadlock has way less seethe than most other games I've played although it also has less russians so maybe that could be the real difference. And to answer the question they're addicted.
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>>750271187
You're definitely their bottom bitch if you're playing games you don't find fun and have to vent here instead of just playing what you feel like.
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>>750271010
billy should kill her and say YWNBAW (that's violet wish to the patron)
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>>750271187
>marathon is good
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>>750270886
Mobas have fun things about them back in the day, but the current design of the just is awful, Deadlock is the absolute worst case scenario of them, it demands way more out of you than an isometric moba, and you have to deal with aimhack cheaters
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>>750271332
Most of us are bottoms
>>750271451
IT IS, they fixed so much
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>>750271559
you sound extremely gay, that's almost endearing
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>>750271187
I never got the large queer obsession with deadlock, most characters are generally either straight or their sexuality is never really the topic of anything, but for some reason the shippers latched onto it quite hard
Even pockets NB pronouns feel like it's more so a play on him abandoning his true identity instead of taking upon another by choice
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>>750271196
>wouldn't subject myself to 3 hours of street brawl
Yeah see, I actually went back and played on my own after that first time and I picked the normal mode.
And fucking hell I recognize that there's way more going on mechanically in normal games and that games are 5x longer so I get street brawl having appeal but that fact it was so much more chilled out and less spastic and ADHD-driven made it immediately more enjoyable for me. Sure I still didn't know what the fuck I was supposed to be doing when it came to the big macro stuff but I could actually just walk around and kill minions and 1v1 people and stuff without having four ults dumped on my head every minute.
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>>750271559
Dude Bungie is just going to fuck you in the ass the instant they get a profitable game again
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>>750270821
true, but that's a given looking how nuvalve designs their characters and looks to reddit and discord for feedback. it'll join the artifact and underlords' shamelessly put down behind the barn club the way it's going
>They're the self righteous discord types
that's each and every one of these obnoxious freaks
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>>750271770
I agree. I get the impression that macro beyond what is already intuitive is probably overrated anyway.
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>>750247004
troon coded game
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>>750264229
>her neon prime look is way different
she never had a neon prime look. she's half finished similar to vindicta
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I think it actually has a good chance of success, they made a fun setting, fun characters, and most importantly, they made a MOBA that people who aren't total unwashed grognards will actually try because the camera isn't in an orbital fucking satellite. Plus, the invite scheme allows them to collect players gradually instead of demanding that people drop their other lifestyle game right away.

Now, will it actually be fun? Sure, I mean, as fun as a MOBA can be, they're all basically the exact same game and rely on vibes to stand out anyway. Good vibes here so I had fun.
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>>750271451
marathon is good
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>>750270391
It's just too busy with two many random things going on and it draws tumblrinas for a reason. And yeah the kit is so goddamn annoying.
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>>750272943
too many*
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>>750272150
I can take solace in knowing then when I shitstomp the enemy team I will likely be ruining the day of 6 of these creatures.
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>>750272150
Why are troons everywhere I go online?
All the nerdy online communities becomes unfunny trans circlejerks at one point or another, wtf is going on?
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>>750273651
>nerd hobby attracts nerds
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>>750262273
>play a moba
>act surprised that the game functions like a moba
>get mad that you have to do moba things
Whoever made that post is a retard and should stick to some slop like rivals or overwwatch.
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>>750273651
Those communities collect losers, and trannies are very aggressive losers socially.
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Why do people here say "moba" and not Assfaggots?
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Ive recently logged 700+ hours and I started this year.

I guess I kinda really like it but you do you dude.
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>>750268879
You were all going through your honeymoon period and too involved in the your clownshow to see it. Do you still wear the makeup and insist I hadn't gotten an invite?
>>750269143
>You were there for the period where people were still fucking around and haven't figured out what works
Yeah I remember people saying this. "This is the best time to be playing the game", it's weird that they didn't bring that to its logical conclusion, that they were on a sinking ship and any enjoyment to be had with the game was built on naivety than the game actually being any good.
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trans rights are human rights
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>>750274013
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>>750274013
She's not even trans and silver isn't gay either.
Annoying people collectively hallucinated these headcanons and get very mad when you tell them you don't beilieve in them.
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>>750273651
troons live on the internet because they are hideous freaks and rightfully hated by most normal people
they can keep pretending to be something they aren't by hiding behind anime profile pictures and such
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half this thread are troons or homos
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>>750271232
>it also has less russians
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>>750274013
It's a coney island circus outfit with stars, stripes and the red white and blue. Trannies have to change the whole color pallete to delude themselves like this.
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>>750262273
...
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>>750268065
Dude, the game panders to them with characters and lore.
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>>750272943
I don't know what you mean
>Trapeze artist outfit
>Unicorn horn (minor detail)
>Leather jacket (i.e quick to grab streetwear so you're not running around new york in just a leotard)
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>>750274564
She's lesbian and its implied through her lore / voicelines.
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>>750273740
I'm not surprised they had this experience, it is getting pushed as a hero shooter. I didn't know it was a MOBA til I played my first match. You see footage and it looks like a hero shooter because it has a non-shit camera. What sells it is the characters and the Valve name, and neither of those give anything away. Might be the most reasonable mistake of all time.

Plus, even then, their opinions aren't less valid just because they don't know what genre they're playing. If anything they're more helpful, as an outsider opinion that could bring positive change and prevent stagnation. Like, they're right that the most exciting action is usually too spaced out in a MOBA, for example.
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>>750274630
i think the fully body tattoos are the bridge too far, too annoying visually and i don't even mind tattoos on women
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>>750273651
trans ideology hit the autistic community like crack hit blacks
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>>750274681
>She's lesbian
But this can't be right, The Lash is a man and she banged him.
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>>750271232
>it also has less russians
I've seen them every single game in Singsing's ranked games. Nigger word dropping is common too, they don't give a fuck about yank rules.
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>>750268758
Billy has a good design by itself but he's anachronistic to the setting and cast. The elements of his design come from NY culture that wouldn't exist for decades. They could do the goatboy thing but he'd have to be an entirely different character.
I think Celeste's design is too modern and tiktok-y overall but she would fit in Deadlock with some visual tweaks. Coney Island freak shows were big in the really early 1900s, they had a midget village before 1910, they used to display malformed infants, etc. A performing tattooed lady/unicorn belongs in the occult setting.
Paige's kit and theme makes her a good character but she doesn't belong in Deadlock either. She's a gender swap of the 1994 movie Pagemaster and she looks and acts exactly like the tumblr art style that we've all made fun of for years, crossed with a little bit of Scooby fucking Doo. The magic script stuff is a solid idea but the implementation of that into the character doesn't fit the game.
Too many of the new characters come off as deviantart/tumblr OCs and not real denizens of the ~1940s occult NYC that Valve set the game in. These devs need to be wrangled with a much firmer hand.
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>>750274702
Even in a bog standard hero shooter I would atleast get to grips with the hero I am about to play, how they work and how the game works before immediately jumping into a game. It takes an impressive level of ignorance to not notice the game is "dota as a shooter" before that point. At best this can be pinned on people not even being aware of what dota is when playing.

The problem with >>750273740's post is he's doing the equivalent of saying "you ordered the bowl of shit from the menu and are complaining it's a bowl of shit", well yeah dumbass, I can still say the bowl of shit is shit.
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>>750275062
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the character designs for deadlock are so fucking ass
gigantic step down from even the placeholder-tier shit that was in early dota2
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>>750268758
seems like a standard bubblegum princess to me, it is supposed to be obnoxious bright glitter puke
you haven't seen enough barbie movies anon
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>>750269454
>Modern dota 2 is rng dogshit
Modern Dota 2 has less RNG than old Dota 2
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>>750273651
Mentally ill spreading their degeneracy buy convincing others that their favourite media is a product and reinforcement of the mentally ill.
Only the week willed buy into it believing it will fix some part of them or help them belong to a group. Instead they physically impair themselves and get depression.
I despise anyone that allows them to claim colours, characters, franchises or anything else under their act of self harm.
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>>750275225
Mobas are the highest skill genre of games and if you're bad at them it's your fault. You order the spicy food and cry that it's too spicy. The spicy food being spicy doesn't mean it's shit.
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>>750271792
NTA, but I've already paid for the game. If the longer it lasts, the more value I will get out of it. There isn't a way for them to take something away from me.
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>>750275383
Everyone who says MOBAs are high skill expression games should have their IQ tested and their skull measurements posted in a public database for scientific study. You definitely skew below the global average and are probably disproportionately Filipino.
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>>750274952
Proof?
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>>750275574
Stay mad stay bad I guess.
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>>750275383
No no. that wasn't the argument that was made. >>750273740 was the argument, but I'm glad to see you realise it was a shit argument.
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>finish a game of deadlock
>"this shit fucking sucks, I'm never playing again"
>close the game
>stare at my desktop for half a minute
>fire up deadlock
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>>750273651
Its become a default outlet for alot of the most self hating nerds to cope with their issues instead of actually tyring to fix them.
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>>750275662
You're playing a genre where your sense of superiority comes from flat out having better stats then your enemy as opposed to playing better than them.
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>>750275681
Maybe you're ESL but that's the exact argument. Someone plays a moba and gets mad that it's a moba. If you don't like spicy food order something else instead of crying about it.
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>>750275771
We're talking about mobas, not hero shooters. Then again you probably never played a moba because you're too bad at video games.
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>>750274821
eh, I just see it as part of the carnie freak aesthetic
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>>750273651
Because you hang out with nerds, nerds are almost exclusively neuroatypical, a lot of neuroatypical people are trans since that's yet another way their brain isn't typical (discovered more often in this era of better mental health care), trans people are horribly mistreated by society, and that usually gives them political consciousness and a desire to examine old social norms and change the system to one where they're treated fairly, like happens with most gender and sexual minorities. Them examining how fucked up the world is then becomes inconvenient and "unfunny" for you, and their community building efforts that are an extension of this are a "circlejerk".
It's kind of a fascinating chain of events, actually. I love tracing this shit.
Basically TL;DR you're not normal and don't hang out with normal people so you're where ALL the non-normal people hang out, even the minorities you hate.
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>>750265353
I go all in on strix missiles and do shitloads of damage with them. Feels great airstriking people.
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>>750270886
I have no idea how you're supposed to play street brawl right now with the new heroes, if I was going to design a casual gamemode like that I'd take out ults entirely. Regular gamemode is more fun because you aren't just mashing into eachother until one side gets lucky.
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>>750274821
Way too colorful, way too flamboyant, way too much skin showing. Tattoos are the only accurate point for her. Picrel. I see what they're going for with her hair being the mane & tail but it's too much.
>supposed to be obnoxious bright glitter puke
>you haven't seen enough barbie movies
She's not in a barbie movie anon
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>>750276447
>the circus performer is too colorful
>see? look at these sepia images, the world was black and white before color television
moron
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>>750276447
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>>750275836
Typical hero shooters specifically don't have leveling systems, you're getting confused.
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>>750276447
and how many people looked like this in the 1930s?
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>>750276664
>pick hero
>enemy picks hero that's objectively stronger as devs can't balance for shit
>lose
In mobas you can outplay your opponent with builds and better macro play, I hope this helps!
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>>750276121
you can call yourself what you like, but the moment you start demanding anything of me is where you can get the fuck off

I don't do compelled speech. Never have, never will.
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>>750276745
>a literal unfinished design from back when the game was about futuristic shit
damn you sure showed him
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>>750276579
That's obviously not what I'm saying anon. I'm talking about the design of the costume and the color palette. Celeste's costume doesn't have anywhere near the same type of fit, it doesn't have the same kind of detail in the embroidery or the tails/frills that would look good trailing behind her while she's in the air. She has a very modern looking lycra/spandex outfit with a belly window and the pink + blue bubblegum colors are too bright. This >>750274564 looks like a LoL character.

>>750276745
I don't like Bebop for this either. He sort-of gets a pass from most people because he got ported straight in from their future-Tokyo Neon Prime setting but I wish they'd do something different with him or remove him completely.
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>>750276121
Well, I think most "normies" enable their freakiness by staying silent or laughing with them rather than against because they don't want to be seen as intolerant chuds.

The gross humor get worse and worse over time but because it's against fascism and is pro queer stuff, most normal people don't openly complain about it.
Hence the circlejerk part, weird trans stuff always get a pass and you can't say shit about it.
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>>750247004
You need to be a onions guzzling numale to understand
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>>750247004
Its not for you...
Go play marvel rivals.
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>>750276447
noir theme went out the window with billy along with the artstyle in general
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>>750277134
That is exactly my complaint desu
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>>750275783
No you specifically tried to change the argument by shifting the analogy from "bowl of shit" to "spicy food", that was you shifting the crux of your point from someone saying something is bad to them apparently not having skill.

By the way, the post in >>750262273 never even talks about playing the game themselves, which your entire analogy hinged on. Are you really trying to say no one can criticise anything? Are you really that pathetic?

In fact, let's hold you to your own retarded standard. You reading my post was you choosing it off of a menu, why are you complaining about what I say when you chose to read it?
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>>750276902
kys
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why is deadlock suddenly popular again

i played a ton of it about a year and a half ago and it fell off what happened
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>>750276973
it does reach a threshold eventually where they can't conceal their disgust

trannies got biden to say the state knows better than parents what to do with their children, parents then proceeded to slam trannies into the concrete. they've never recovered from the blowback. Especially after the Cass Report essentially said their ideology is dangerous and based on fake bullshit.
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FIx Street Brawl. Mode is basically unplayable since this new batch of heroes.
>Enemy team is Rat King, Solomon, Violet, and Paige or Danny
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>>750276902
It's an Americana leotard with faded colors to compliment her hair and give her a readable color palette.
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>>750276765
>pick hero
>enemy picks hero that's objectively stronger as devs can't balance for shit
>lose
You literally just described Deadlock.

And why is your greentext describing you losing? You're good at this game remember? So we know you're the other guy, who in your words, is winning because you've got the better hero that's objectively stronger as devs can't balance for shit.
>but builds and macros
Yeah I'm sure you're good at all that as well. But what's really helped you is having laned against players who were easy kills for you, now you just flat out have better stats against the opponents who would have been a challenge for you otherwise. You really call that skill?
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>>750277430
That's heavy fabric with detailed embroidery and other fine detail with much more muted colors. That's worlds apart from what she has on in-game. I would much prefer that over the skin-tight spandex.
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>>750277497
also even when i did play i wasnt any good so idk if i should get back into it
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>>750277265
Someone made a shitty analogy and I corrected them. No need to be upset about it. If you play a game that isn't made for you the game isn't shit, you're just an entitled retard that wants everything to pander to your tastes. If you want to criticize something you need to understand what you're criticizing,crying about it being bad because you're too retarded to even know what you're looking at isn't criticism. Dumbing everything down to please retards is a really bad idea but you're probably a barely literate zoomer so I'm not surprised you hold this opinion. Instead of invading a space that's not for you that you also don't enjoy, go away you feminist.
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>>750276973
I think most normies just don't care, one way or the other, at all. It's kind of a non-normie trait to care so much about things, we have really strong opinions instead of just trying to make it though the day like most folks.
What's the "gross stuff" that bothers you? I'm not sure exactly what you're pointing to. Regardless, surely fascism is a worthy target of mockery? It's famously evil in a sense that is literally comical - fascists have been the bad guys in a thousand comics, and other media, for good reason. I don't see how people dunking on fascism these days is any different than Tarantino doing Inglorious Basterds or the existence of Darth Vader.
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>>750277497
they had several large updates and it got popular on tiktok from people posting hero interactions
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>>750277635
Mobas have a very wide set of skills and challenges that you need to master to get good, I understand that you want a simple game where rock beats scissors 100% of the time because getting good at more than one thing is too hard for you, and that's okay, you can play those games instead.
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>>750277497
They finally did a big update after like half a year. The game has had positive word of mouth for a while but they were in the kitchen and refused to tell anyone.
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>>750277672
Well done you hypocrite. You did the very thing you were trying to criticse you stupid fuck.

You're complaining about my post, even thought you chose to read it. Which by your own retarded logic is your fault. Yes, you can't just simply have a problem with what I said. Hey don't look at me this was your retarded way of thinking. Don't worry, I agree it's retarded.
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>>750277645
>the color is muted
maybe because it is over a hundred years old idiot, also it is a leotard it is going to be skin tight.
I dont think it looks like spandex, to me it just looks like a video game, there aren't really detailed fabrics on anyone.
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always the exact same posts in these threads
if anything, Sweeney pays well
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>>750277497
mina porn took off
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>>750276121
>trans people are horribly mistreated by society
people entertaining their delusions and making them spiral out truly do hate them, agree. calling the condition for what it is, being a full blown mental illness (delusion), and treating it as such is the first step in their reconvalescence and the subsequent return to normalcy and acceptance, but people are not ready for that conversation because the sweet sweet lies they're being told in their echo chambers are too convenient to believe in in comparison
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>>750277836
>Mobas have a very wide set of skills and challenges that you need to master to get good
Or one scrub on the other team you got a bunch of easy kills on letting you ride that lead to the end.
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>>750278620
You will never be normal
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Started this a few weeks ago, I like it. It's a 3D vertical sweat dota with aiming, I didn't know I wanted this before I played it.
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>>750278405
see ya
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>>750274952
She hates Lash because he turned Lenny into a vegetable.
Given that Celeste is known New York wide as Lenny's tard wrangler, Lash trying to flirt with her after what he did to Lenny is what makes it so hilarious.
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>>750277983
Well done, you just proved you're ESL and also retarded.
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>>750274952
Lash flirts with almost all the women. There is nothing in her dialogue that indicates she banged him.
Meanwhile she has flirty dialogue with women.

The problem isn't people with dumb headcanons, the problem is that Valve just listens to the discord and reddit community. Every female character is gay or bisexual. No one cares about the male characters. The community has become full of porn addicts and transgendered weirdos who openly post porn on the discord/reddit, and as long as it is two girls it is okay but if you ever draw a girl with boobs 5% too large it is:
>wow hetslop her boobs aren't that big is this even the same character???
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>>750276502
I'm calling the /fa/shion police
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>>750278850
Reminder each post you make is just more hypocrisy from you. Yeah this was a really stupid position to put yourself in. Why do you keep reading posts you don't like anon?
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>>750276579
Disingenuous, literally the majority of women in the image that anon posted were in color
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>>750279156
How about you try reading my posts and actually engaging with my arguments instead of crying?
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>>750279327
Hah, even more hypocrisy, you were doing that with >>750278850, looks particularly bad when you make accusations of ESL but don't address what I've said to you at all.

Why do you keep reading posts you don't like anon?
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>>750278671
normalcy is telling pantyhose wearing perverts with painted nails that they're indistinguishable from biological women? sign me the fuck out lmao
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>>750278620
Thing is, if we're following the science, the only thing that works in terms of improving quality of life is assisting in their transition. We've tried treating it as delusion to be un-deluded plenty of times, and fixing it that way never works. It is notoriously very difficult to change self-perception in a patient, it's why schizotypal personality disorders are so tough to manage. It's medically encouraged to simply pretend you believe what a schizophrenic person says when you're around them, to lower their distress. It helps them and it's only a mild inconvenience. Now, consider the trans patient, and they literally believe the world is 99.99% how it should be, but just one body is wrong. This is a way smaller ask and results in a much easier return to productive life for the patient. Kinda just seems like a slam dunk to me.
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>>750277741
Because Fascism is when you tell a 3 year old boy they're not actually a girl or spiderman the next day, apparently
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>>750279468
Yeah, you're too retarded to argue with. I accept your concession. Next time try reading the posts of the person that's trying to argue with you.
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ive never played a moba before so asking-
is it normal for every game to either be
a) I get carried by my team
b) my team gets stomped by a huge margin
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>>750279492
BODIED that freak
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>>750279686
it is rare in any multiplayer game that i can't tell how a match will go within the first 5 minutes
surrender option when
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>>750279686
If it's your first moba you're probably a deadweight and those are the only two options until you learn how to play.
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>>750279590
It isn't and nobody said it is, but nice goalpost move bro.
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>>750279803
is there no eternal retard pool for me to be placed into though
like why am i laning against guys doing perfect parries and stairslides and stuff i barely have macro down
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>>750279686
In beginner ranks yeah. Sometimes you get a 60+ minute clownfest where both teams desperately take turns throwing the game though
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>>750279892
You get placed with retards that the game deems as bad as you despite having hundreds of hours, eventually you will get better than them.
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>>750279892
Low rank games are rarely close because everybody is too retarded to know how to counter whichever dummy lucks into the hero/build that starts snowballing
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>>750279492
Arguing on an anonymous Taiwanese water polo forum about trannies is not normal behavior. Just because you haven't decided to put on a wig doesn't make you normal.
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>>750279669
>Next time try reading the posts of the person that's trying to argue with you.
Anon your entire fuck up here is your failure to read

>In fact, let's hold you to your own retarded standard. You reading my post was you choosing it off of a menu, why are you complaining about what I say when you chose to read it?
If you had read that you would have realised you absolutely should not have responded to me because it would be doing the very thing that would be hypocrisy on your part.

Really, how hard is it for you to simply accept that people can criticise things?
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>>750247590
Your wife's boyfriend not letting you fuck her is a skill issue.
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if they remove all the movement horseshit i might play it
can't stand games where it is a requirement to be a coked up twitchy fucking autist just to get from point A to point B
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what's the point of melee if everyone has a built in parry
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>>750279767
>it is rare in any multiplayer game
It tends to be specifically a assfaggots problem, you can get something like splatoon where people will actually complain that the first two minutes of a turf war doesn't matter.
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>>750254257
>start lane
>let enemy poke too much
>get careless
>die
>don’t change tactics
>enemy stronger from kill
>pokes more punishing
>get dived
>die
>repeat 2-3 times
>start being as careful as you should have been X deaths ago
>enemy now out scales you where being only a little careful means nothing
>loose lane
>flame lane partner
>d/c
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>>750279830
>mote-and-baileying
This shit hasn't worked since covid ended bro. People are just going to keep saying what you're doing, ignore your lies and proceed from there.
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>>750280154
Just bait the parry and you get to rape them for four seconds
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>>750274630
The color scheme and design of the circus outfit along with the extensive tattoos and the lacework leggings makes everything incredibly busy with countless lines an details all competing for attention. Even the leather jacket has a bunch of studs trying to catch your eye. It's an absolute fucking mess visually, I don't know how you can't see that. Probably all the details are too distracting kek
That's not to even speak of how dumb the circus outfit part of her looks but I'll chalk that up to my superior personal taste and not something that's a clear basic character design mistake like the rest of her.
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>>750279580
>assisting in their transition
which means what, exactly? physical mutilation and/or a hormonal one? how does this do anything but barely touch the symptoms and makes them spiral out? is treating e.g. alcoholism by giving the patient an increasingly bigger amounts of alcohol sane or effective? something that's ever going to help them? no, because this sort of disease makes one implacable. this route ultimately makes these people "transition" from life to the afterlife, which is evident by their suicide statistics. again - entertaining the delusions of the mentally ill is cruelty, not love or acceptance
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>>750279580
Except the Cass Report dismisses all of this. Every single trans study was low effort unscientific nonsense. Giving children puberty blockers and experimental drugs was and is objectively harming them.
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>>750271010
>Billy not hating violet is quite strange,
He's trying to fuck her, retard. The whole joke is that Violet is just female Billy and Billy wants mid arthoe pussy.
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>>750247201
dont only gays and vtubers play this
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>>750278079
It isn't a faded blue, it's a different blue, even if you dragged the color all the way up to make it much lighter. The navy or indigo in that old leotard would get lighter with age, not darker. Celeste isn't wearing a faded red white and blue outfit, she's wearing a teal and pink leotard and has teal and pink hair.
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>>750247004
Uh yeah, it's a generic fortnite kiddieland game. You couldn't tell it was trash from just looking at it? Shit is gay as fuck nigga,
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>>750269141
>>750271010
Billy is pretty much an asshole to everyone in his original dialogue. He makes fun of Paige's books and basically talks down to everyone and rages impotently. The new set of voice lines he got are based around reddit/discord's headcanon of him secretly having a heart of gold even though he barely shows any compassion or endearment towards anyone prior to this. He SHOULD respond to violet talking about getting high and painting pictures of hamsters with
>That sounds stupid, you think anyone cares about that crap?
Instead he just like
>Woah that is so awesome
The writing took a noticeable step down with this batch of heroes.
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>>750281105
this is such a bizarre nitpick, it matches the overall style and proves her showing too much skin is wrong, nowhere did i say it was an exact color perfect match the whole top is different
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>>750279580
>it’s the most humane method of alleviating psychological distress that definitely won’t be looked back upon as ridiculously barbaric.
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>>750268197
>GunZ
Nothing against this game, it seems sick, but do you really think that's a market that any company would target for a big budget development? All 20 GunZ players? Come on man
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>>750267998
shit taste
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>>750281275
You said the color is more muted because it's old, I'm saying the color is more muted because it's a *different color*. It's not a nitpick to say her whole palette is too bright and bubblegummy. The cut of the leotard is similar but nothing else about it is.
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>>750281582
>that isn't blue it is actually teal idiot delete this character right now
it just seems like a strange thing to be upset about
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>>750281281
This shit was safer and more humane than "transitioning"
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>>750281942
Less lethal too
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>>750281872
her jacket is more modern than the leotard, try finding one like that from the 30s
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>>750280852
It literally isn't even peer reviewed, it doesn't override the dozens of reliable reports to the contrary. That's just cherry picking.

>>750280603
Why is it always the word "mutilation" with chuds? Surgeries exist. They have existed for a long time. We have the data to prove that they work and lower the suicide rates, not raise them.

>>750280253
You have attributed an uncommon opinion some other people have to me, despite never expressing it. That's not a mot and bailey, that's you burning down a Denny's two towns over for no reason.
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>>750282037
>leather jacket but make it from Claire's
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>>750282103
>Why is it always the word "mutilation" with chuds?
how is it anything BUT mutilation? I know you're allergic to the truth but this is just ridiculous
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what's the best source to learn deadlocking? I don't want to be yelled at in a foreign language because i suck
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>>750282437
>what's the best source
deadlock
you can watch jewtube to learn what items people are buying to counter you or what you need to buy to counter others but unless you are playing the game you won't be able to remember or pick then out or know what to swap and when
just accept your team will hate you for the first few hundred hours
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>>750282437
The game itself and YouTube. Specifically both. Watching videos about a game won't make you good at it.
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>>750247004
i got an invite last night. Viscous, mo krill dynamo and bebop look interesting, should i use them to learn the game? are they actually useful for the team? do i have to take them to a specific lane?
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>>750283230
MoKrill is perfect for noobs
Dynamo is pretty good for noobs
Viscous is tough for noobs, he has many ways to grief his own team with bad punches and cubes, and his ult takes practice. I learned on Viscous though, so if you like him you can do it.
All 3 are useful when played well, but they can also struggle to put games on their back and carry. They all rely on team mates to put out the damage
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>>750283230
Depends on your aim skill. Mo+krill are completely aimless and tanky + mobile as fuck, viscous can basically rocketjump+ juggle, dynamo is simple, and bebop is a bit more dynamic than the usual hook hero since he fucks around rather than disabling
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>>750283443
and bebop?
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>>750282103
I dont know what word you would use to describe chopping up a healthy organ up to make a nonfunctional facsmilie of a different organ, but mutiliation seems pretty spot on to people not.willing to humor your little facade
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>>750283552
A little bit harder than dynamo, but easier than visc.
If you can aim hooks you'll be useful, he relies a bit more of your knowledge of the enemy heroes. Some heroes will rape you in melee after you hook them unless you have a numbers advantage, and some heroes are really hard to do anything to unless you build counter items, like apollo for example
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>>750247004
skill issue
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ok I’ve been chasing down and raping people with yamato and calico now i need a third character with a more varied playstyle, shill me your characters
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I can see Value pulling the plug on this just from the fanbase it's accumulating already.
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>>750284126
do you retards actually believe what you post
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>>750284049
Jacob Lash is an asshole
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I picked up this game when Solomon and CNS patch came out. But now in this same patch I'm very turned off by the AOE slop that's constantly on my screen. Adding Rat Kings bullshit soft tracking grenade that costs you 1 stam to avoid every hop and violet and harrows ults that decide teamfights quickly.

If they universally reduced AOEs across the board I'd be more excited to play
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>>750247004
wish I was 16 again with infinite time to play this game for the next 10 years
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>>750284049
If you play abrams you can run into people and turn them into hamburger while not dying
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>>750265427
Harrow doesnt have two "fuck you im safe now" buttons or anywhere near as much damage
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>>750284198
Are you enjoying Artifact? Oh wait they pulled the plug on that one too
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>>750284524
Artifact had no fans.
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>Laning against Silver
>As soon as she hits level 6 she goes wolf form, parries the guardian and mauls you do death and there's nothing you can do about it.

Banning this faggot hero ASAP.
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>>750284524
>comparing a game that was so widely reviled on release that the crowd reveal sounded like they'd just seen someone die on stage to a game that just beat TF2's all-time peak before it's even fully out
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>>750284126
they probably won't but that would be actually funny the number of tranny suicides would skyrocket
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>>750284665
>and there's nothing you can do about it.
Buy Disarming Hex or lane with Mo&Krill. Disarms disable her claws since those are her "gun."
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>>750283443
Viscous suffers from people being able to parry his main damage
Not the end of the world, his 1 still hits pretty hard, but its less interesting and fun to play around
Cube ulting Sevens it makes them safe and they like it :)
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I have no idea how the should approach Vyper model redesign
At this point her dumb face, bad posture and stubby limbs are too iconic
I don't really want the snek lower body anymore
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>>750283969
what about victor, rat king and baba?
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>>750284665
a lot of chars kill you the instant they hit 6
what you do is you hit 6 first
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>>750284049
If you want another character like this try gun Ivy.
High base mobility and stone form let you play similarly, but most of your damage is left-click and you don't have a shotgun so you have to aim more.
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>>750285060
>victor
Not SUPER hard, but learn to toggle off Aura of Suffering when you don't need it so you don't kill yourself.
>Rat King
Pretty easy. You mostly just need to know the timing of when to use his 3 and his 4 most effectively.
>Baba
Should be overcomplicated and nightmarish to play but if you're even moderately decent she's one of the most broken characters in the entire game right now.
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>>750285060
Rat King is pure retard mode. You just walk down the lane and mash your buttons. He's fun though
Victor is a hard carry, you'll spend most of the game killing creeps until you become immortal and win. Pretty easy to play, but relies on your team to not fuck the whole game up before you come online.
Haven't really played Baba much yet.
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>>750284856
Too bad
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>>750284665
She's literally the worst hero in the game lmao get good
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>>750285472
im sure thats just warden
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>>750284665
Her wolf form bar fills with bullet damage. Buy any bullet resist item and/or any slow item and you can shut her down.
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>>750271871
they are freaks but never forget we are all freaks too
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i really want to like it but im not sure ive ever played a game that makes me feel like more of a useless retarded piece of shit
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>>750254257
It can come down to so many different things and the game doesn't do a good job of illustrating that, but generally:
>they had heroes that scale better
>they took more objectives (just 1 rift is enough to catch up from losing lane)
>they itemized better (cultist if behind, CC for troublesome heroes, ect.)
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Two truth nukes that deadcock troons are not ready to accept:
1. All shmovement shit that DL has is not a strong side of the game but something that will keep people away.
2. The community is Undertumblr levels abhorent. All Silver (and Celeste) troons without exceltion should be bullied into live-streaming their suicide.
>inb4 s-seething/filtered
just kill yourself, groomer, you're cancer and don't deserve the oxygen you waste
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>750287798
Filtered shitter lol stick to marvel rivals
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I was going to install it then I remembered this femboy vtuber who filmed him putting a vibrator in his ass and cumming hands free while playing this game and orgasming into voice chat for everyone to hear and now im thinking maybe I shouldnt play it
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>>750288125
just dont play sinclair and that probably wont happen to you
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>>750288125
What part of the match did he cum during? This is important
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>>750287798
Why do trannies like this game so much anyway?
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>>750288247
I dont remember
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>>750288247
I found it, but im afraid to link it I know a janny will have a clitty leak, should up PanksterVT, i tried to play deadlock with a toy inside me, its on twitter
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>>750279580
Every tranny I've ever met has been sad as shit constantly so no your "hypothesis" doesn't follow. I don't give a rat's ass if this is anecdotal. There is no study to support it.

Just dress up as a girl and be gay. Simple and effective with no hormonal influence. Plenty of people like cross dressers and if you look too manly for it, guess what? You will never be a woman. In the nicest way. Not saying that to hurt you, it's just reality
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>>750288363
Must not have bothered you that much then
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>>750288514
It didnt bother me, I came watching it
I just dont want to play games with lots of trannies
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>>750288505
Whats the solution for people with gender dysphoria then? They need HRT
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>>750288125
Yeah that's unfortunately what every Doorman or Celeste player you see is doing. Like if you get ulted by a Doorman player his vibrating butt plug is going off in his ass while it's happening. The hardest part about playing Doorman is telling your parents you're gay.
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nuvalve fatigue
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>>750247004
Deadlock players are all faggot Jewish troons
Every thread about it for the past year has been blatant shill campaigns from /vg/ and gamingcirclejerk
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>>750288949
there there
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>>750288259
Personally I blame Celeste being added as the point of no return
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>>750255360
>this game is fun but you REALLY need a team of friends to bear through ranked or normal games
this applies to every single hero shooter/MOBA ever
by definition, Team PvP games are not meant to be played soloq with randos matchmaking

MOBAs have it much worse because of 30-50 min sweaty matches, creep farming etc.
its more tolerable in a casual simpler hero shooter, which is what Rivals did - it still has issues (namely matchmaking), but its about as good as it can get
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>MOBA
>troon characters
>beloved by actual discord troons
>infested with russians/eastern europeans
>basically 3-rd person Dota 3, but with more visual clutter and more cheaters
Did I miss anything?
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>>750247004
I just wish it was more like TF2 rather than a moba.. but valve would never do that since assfagots is their breadwinner
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sex with vindicta
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>>750291751
I think Valve will add more casual stuff like Street Brawl to pull in the TF2 crowd, it's just going to take a while as the ASSFAGGOTRY is ironed out
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>>750287798
>All shmovement shit that DL has is not a strong side of the game but something that will keep people away.
why do you keep seething about the most basic bitch movement shit
if thousands could learn basic tf2 rocketjumping or pressing the crouch button to slide down hills in fortnite they can handle deadlock
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>>750247004
I think it saddens me this is Valve's next big multiplayer title and it's basically Dota 3
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>>750293476
>crouch button to slide down hills in fortnite they can handle deadlock
They are not even close to comparable in terms of complexity. There are so many tiny deadlock movement techs that separate the pros from the average joes. Seeing a movement pro play is like watching someone play a different game.
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>>750294514
Yeah but you literally don't need it
If you're in low ranks nobody else is doing it and if you're in high ranks you've probably learned it anyways
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>>750274564
wait, this my little pony tranny is an ACTUAL character in deadslop????

I thought this was some tranny oc from deviant art

LAMOOOOOOOOOO
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>>750294514
>>750294971
call me crazy but I think it's actually bad design for a game with a ton of characters that every single character can do insane "shmovement" and not just one subclass
it looks ridiculous, watching high level streams is like watching a whole tranny circus troupe on acid and speedball at the same time
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>>750294971
That's a more reasonable take. But, if you are someone trying to get better movement has to be on your to-do list.
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This is a /v/-core game.
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>>750295714
>every single character can do insane "shmovement" and not just one subclass
But different characters are far more limited than others based on what items they've bought, what skills they have, and what their base stats are, do you even know what game you're talking about?
Obviously every character can get BETTER at movement than they look on the face of it but you're never going to see a Rat King moving like Celeste or Shiv.
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>>750269991
Anon, there are a great many people who exclusively play street brawl because they do in fact find it more fun than the standard mode.

Even having said that, this is disingenuous, no where in the screencap did the anon complain about the game being a large battle spanning across the city or suggest the game needed heavy RNG preventing you from getting your choice of items.
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>>750295865
It still looks ridiculous to me that the not-Magnus tank guy can jump around and slide up walls and shit after 10+ years of Dota 2 sorry
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>>750247004
When people say video games are a waste of time, they're always talking about shit like this.
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>>750296196
>not-magnus tank guy
There's really not anyone as bulky as Magnus in the roster, at least not yet, so I've got no clue who you're talking about.
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>>750255507
my only issue with graves is her wall because it doesn't change much if at all when its on your team vs the enemy so when I load into a game and am playing against her after having her on my team I forget sometimes and just walk into her wall like a retard but thats mostly because im stupid as fuck
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>>750295781
>But, if you are someone trying to get better movement has to be on your to-do list.
To some degree, sure, but a good chunk of the roster can get away with mostly just learning basic airstrafing and sliding stuff, and that's tech that's literally been around since the days of quake 1. You only really need to know the ultra-complicated shit if you're playing a movement focused character (i.e. Holiday, Shiv, Vyper, Celeste) or someone who generally just wants to be ultra-mobile for other reasons (i.e. Rem players rotating around the map to steal as much farm as possible)
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>reddit slop turns into reddit slop
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>>750262273
>gets annoyed that death has a consequence
No, this is disingenuous. Someone who complain about retarded respawn times aren't complaining because "death has consequence". They're complaining because at a fundamental level it's a failure of a game's goal to be fun if you're actually forced to wait and do nothing for a retarded amount of time.

Most multiplayer games understand this. Even something with perma-death like a battle royale game is designed on the idea that you leave the game once you die and join another one starting. At best you could point to something using the counter-strike design where you have to sit out rounds on death. But even then people can reasonably not want to play something like that.
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Have to say that I really like the character lines and delivery (except a few cringy ones like Violet). They remind me of the quality of voice lines that heroes have in Dota and mercs in TF2


"YOU CAN SEE THE JETPACK IS EASY TO USE" as danny flings himself onto the ground. It's just amazing
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>>750249141
Nice, boobGAWD
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>>750297108
There's a definitely point where valve basically went "well I guess deadlock is our next big thing then" and assigned actual writing talent on the thing because there's a definitely been a jump in writing quality.
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>>750296970
Meant for >>750263501
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>>750254251
Just survive the early game and Danny is useless
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>>750297284
Feels like the opposite. The latest batch of heroes are easily the weakest written ones so far. Danny is the only real standout.
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>>750297442
I'm mainly think between the original leak and the six heroes update.
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>>750247004
>ALCHEMICAL FLASK
Wardenmaxxing is the way to go, faggot.
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>>750296970
>>750297343
They moan about 80 second respawn times at a point where the game is being pushed to finish.
Structurally it's too different for a perma-death or round respawn and given the length of some rounds, you could be sat out for even longer in those games if you die early.
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>>750297442
Harrow is pretty good, in fact, she's the only one to pretty much shit on Violet

Baba is also pretty decent, same as Rat King, really it's only Solomon who is boring and Violet being a fucking OC dont steel
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HI XAVIER GUN DOWN YOUR ENTIRE FAMILY

HANG YOURSELF YOU LITERAL TRANNY
KILL YOUR DUMB CUNT FEMINIST MOTHER AUDREY PROTHERO BEFORE I STAB HER AND HER BASEDFUCK BOYFRIEND TO DEATH IN THEIR DRIVEWAY IN THAT DOGFUCKED DUPLEX THEY LIVE IN
KILL YOURSELF XAVIER
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>>750297751
I just woke up yeah I agree about Harrow actually. She and Danny are both good.

Rat King is okay.
Solomon and Baba are meh.
Violet is actually so bad I didn't believe Valve could ever even write someone like her. Like I just don't think anyone on the team would let such an obviously horribly written character make it through.
She's borderline racist in how much of a 2020+ stereotype she is of asians.
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WHATS WRONG WITH KILLING YOUR ENTIRE FAMILY XAVIER? I TOLD YOU TO STAY AWAY YOU STOPPED REQUESTING ART BACK IN APRIL I WONDER WHY DUMB NIGGER
KILL YOURSELF BEFORE I ANNIHILATE YOUR FAMILY AND RAPE YOUR WHORE MOTHER TO DEATH
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reminder that danny is the only honest character of the new batch
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>>750296741
>2 maybe 3 out of all the cast
>we literally got rocketman with danny



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