*ruins your game's localization*
>>750247737>protects you from higher age ratings
Still preferable to subtitles
>>750247737If you care so much translate it yourself.
>>750247797true
Texas is the worst state in this country.
I’m a retarded mid 20s faggot with a bachelor’s and no job experience. What’s the best way I can shift my life to be able to afford living in SoCal?Yes I am being 100% unironic in my desire to live there
>>750247816but I don't know moonspeak
>>750247828Square Enix employs some of the worst translators in existence. Many don't even seem to know Japanese.
>>750247893NISA gives them a run for their money.
>>750247871Just move there and live off government gibs. Only works if you're not a straight, white male though.
>>750247816Okay
>>750247871At this point you might as well hop on a bus and wageslave/manwhore your way until you catch on in the film industry... whichever one that may be.
>>750247873Just trust the translators, kid. They get paid to do stuff like this.
>>750247871You can probably afford to live in south central LA or some shit. It's just, you know, there's a reason why.
>>750247737I learnt Japanese over 10 years ago, as I am sure most people on /v/ did, so this means nothing to me.
>>750248225Japanese takes a lifetime to master. Anyone who claims to have "learned" it, especially those who live outside the country, are always exaggerating their skill.
>>750247737me center right
>>750247863
>>750248225So has AI
>>750247863objectively it's Florida
>>750247737So why as a society did we decide>”yea, why don’t we consolidate the entirety of tech and entertainment into one state and make it mandatory that you must live here”And not just any state, but the absolute most insufferable and expensive state in the entire union
>>750248271Learning Japanese on the level of reading video game dialogue takes like half a year to learn if you are autistic about it. You will have to look up a kanji with OCR/text hooker every once in a while but they're not exactly writing high literature here.
>>750247863That would be Louisiana
>>750247873heh, neither do the translators!
>>750248312Imagine having a senator who flees the state every time a disaster occurs.
>>750248443Half a year won't even cover the basics. And "every one in a while" is closer to "every sentence."Even baby games like Pokemon will hit you with N1 expressions in the first hour alone.
>>750248392The weather.
>>750248550the weather here sucks ass tho
>>750248392>And not just any state, but the absolute most insufferable and expensive state in the entire unionProbably because it wasn't insufferable and expensive when those companies were starting out? San Francisco was dirt cheap before silicon valley exploded, and California was a deep red state until the 90s.
>>750248497You'll learn hiragana/katakana in a week, do 20 words in anki (+ any extras you get from immersion) a day for a total vocabulary of 180*20 = 3600 which covers over half of Core 6k, and, as for grammar, you will have studied through Tae Kim within the first two weeks of picking it up (it is NOT that long) and any expressions you don't recognize, you look up.It's simply a skill issue.
>>750247737 Driving down 395 through Bishop/Independence/Lone Pine is absolute kino. Did it for like a decade when I would visit my grandma in Orange County for Christmas. I moved even further away and now I just fly.
>>750248637The syllabaries can be learned in a week, but realistically, it'll take a person several months to internalize them. 3600 words is a pittance, especially if it's from a deck as unoptimized (and frankly antiquated) as the Core 6k. Tae Kim's grammar guide is both flawed (Japanese has no subject? seriously?) and pretty long.
>>750248810>The syllabaries can be learned in a week, but realistically, it'll take a person several months to internalize them.That's why you pick up a Japanese children's video game and read along until it becomes second nature. It won't take months if you do this for 6+ hours a day (which the unemployed bums on this board would do anyway). You have a lot of advantages over people who have to ACTUALLY learn Japanese: you don't have to write it, you don't have to speak it, you just have to be able to read Japanese and understand what it says. It doesn't take that long. You'll be breezing through the material while the people taking Japanese at a university are still learning self-introductions and writing kanas in their notebook after two months. The good news is that JLPT is a joke multiple choice exam that doesn't measure your ability to speak and write either so you can scam your way into a JLPT certificate this way.
>>750247863this
>>750249010Again, children's video games are still pretty difficult, and are N1 in difficulty. The only ones that I can think of that are truly easy are also ones that don't contain a lot of dialogue, like Ocarina of Time, but the language used in those games is nevertheless more difficult than anything you'll read in a textbook.
>>750249107Who cares what "difficulty level" it is? You don't get it, you look it up, maybe make a flash card about it.>see 合格すべく、毎日勉強している>no idea what すべく means>ask your helpful AI friend>it tells you it's a particularly formal way to say "in order to", you use it by doing plain form + べく or in the case of する it becomes すべく>add it to your grammar deck if you care about it>N1 grammatical structure learned in 30 seconds while actively reading Japanese
>>750247737You know for all the shit you give California for politicizing games, there's a criminally lacking amount of flack for people spawning out of Texas doing this shit.
Austin is just an extension of california
>>750249347Difficulty is the difference between understanding a sentence and getting stuck.This sentence from an upcoming kid's game is difficult because no beginner will know any of the words in this sentence.
>>750247737I really dont like localisation but ultimately some of it is necissary from a word choice perspective. The question is how to get around that without letting localisers go mad and ruin everything a simple example is 牛肉 now the literal translation is Cow meat, a good localisation would be Beef a bad localisation would be cow corpse.Ironically cow corpse is closer to the original but has an inbuilt political bias that isnt there in either cow meat or beef.
>>750252021How is translating 牛肉 as beef a localization?
>muh translations!!!
>>750252082This
>>750248637>You can learn Hiragana/Katakana in a week1 day*>>750248810Reading can be learnt in a day what takes longer is automatic reading, this is the difference between seeing the word "word" and your brain automatically reading it as soon as you see it vs seeing the letters "W" "o" "r" "d" and having to sound it out to realise it says "word"
>>750247784>AI >For a funky katakana name that reads in EnglishThis is so fucking stupid. I'm so glad I can read.
>>750248271>if you cant be a master at something you shouldnt even tryWhat a retarded defeatist attitude. I live in Japan and have been here for a decade. I would say I am at 90% fluency. This is well enough to play quite literally any video game. I did struggle a bit in Bloodborne but so did my Japanese wife who can't even speak English so I do not feel bad about it. You are just searching for excuses and coping.
>>750252072Because Beef isnt the literal translation, Cow meat is. Theres also the historical context for why in English its called Beef (a french word) rather than cow meat.
>>750252316Cow meet is synonymous with beef, so it would still be considered a literal translation when 牛肉 is treated as a compound.
>>750252292If you're from the DJT, then there's a 90% chance you're larping about one or more of the things you just said. Tell your fictional wife that she's retarded.
>>750252418No its an example of good localisation. Objectively speaking its not a translation.That being said, I do hate most localisers because they dont do accurate localisation and instead aim to rewrite the script to fit their own messaging.I understand theres also an inherent bias to the word localisation because people associate it with the faggots that try to ruin everything but objectively speaking it is an example of how to do localisation in a good way.
>>750252148>tranny talking about fragile male egopottery
>>750252507No part of that word was localized. Cow meet is not a local delicacy of Japan, it's a universally recognized meet known as beef.
>>750252176I've never heard of anyone memorizing them in a day. 2 weeks is considered standard.
>>7502478633rd worst. 2nd is Florida. 1st is Oklahoma.
>>750252649I did it in a day and im not some kind of genius.
>tell claude to re-translate>get an accurate script instead
>>750252723I doubt it.
>>750248618San Jose was mostly farm land in the 80's
>>750252751You could do it too.Its really not hard at all.
>>750252772Careful, some people might actually believe you on here.
>>750252835They should because im telling the truth.If it takes a week its because you were occupied with other things. If you spent say 10 minutes per day its obviously going to take longer than 20 minutes per day which takes longer than 30 minutes per day.The fact is it can be done in afew hours so if you are actually putting time into it then it can easily be done in a single day with plenty of time to spare.
>>750252985There's 92 base characters alone. Even if you don't count diacritics, there's 72 more contractions on top of that, not counting extended contractions like ティ and チェ. That's 164 characters total. Add 50 more if we are counting diacritics.
>>750253298>diacriticsExtremely easyG' = KT' = D S' = ZH' = BH0 = PAs for contractions its just the first part with its ending modified by the small letter.
I don't buy western slop
>>750253505I didn't ask if they were easy. I'm demonstrating that the number is large.
>>750253554The number is alot smaller when you take into count the hiragana and katakana that are almost the exact same thing. Like や vs ヤ , せ vs セ, へ vs へ, か vs カ, り vs リ
>>750253773Likewise, they're more complicated when you take into account similar looking characters like ソンツシ. This adds complexity as learners figure out strategies to differentiate them in context.
>>750253554>>750253773>>750253875Also as for the ones people get confused about the most シ and ツ the two marks just intersect where the line would be in the hiragana version し and つI will admit its easier to confuse ソ and ン than it is to confuse シ and ツ tho.
>>750253967Again, I didn't ask you for your strategies on how you personally differentiate them. All I'm pointing out is how unrealistic your claim is.
>>750254007Anyone who read that post who didnt previously know, now knows how to differentiate Shi and Tsu and it took a single 4chan post to do it.My point is, its not hard.
ウィスコンシンは最悪の州です wwwww
>>750254061Most struggle with it in the beginning periods of learning, hence the many complaints you see online about it. Learning both syllabaries in a day is unrealistic, even at a fast pace.>>750254141だよねw
>>750252021holy retard
>>750254213If I can do it, anyone can.Its just a simple matter of dedicating enough of your day to it.Like I said its obviously going to take more days if you only dedicate say 10 minutes per day to it.
>>750254306You did not do it in a day. Nobody learns it in a day. At best, you reviewed them all in a day, but you did not have them fully memorized.
>>750254352Cope, I did it in a day and im no genius.Anybody can do it.
>>750254375Well, at least we both can agree on the second part.
>>750247828Do they get paid by the words or some shit?
>>750247871Honestly, as someone who lives in socalGood fukkin luckUnless you get a job transfer or something, California is fukkin brutal without some sort of safety net or support system. If you're gay enough there's community outreach in a few places, but for the most part, the economic realities of making it in Cali are pretty brutal. We have the homeless rates we do for a variety of reasons, some of them not our fault, but a lot of them are because of shit like this.Best hope is keep an ear to the ground if the wealth tax actually passes, and the mass exodus of wealthy people actually happens, 'cuz then there'll be a lot of empty space to fill.
>>750254443Their scripts always magically grow in size.
>>750247828Dragon Quest is a... special case. Dragon Quest has had a particular flavor of localization for nigh on 30 years. Dragon Quest is NOT a good example of anything related to localization, for good or ill, it's really its own thing.
>>750254496Nonsense. The Dragon Warrior translations were never this obnoxious.
>>750247737ftfy
>>750254526Eternal reminder that the British Dub of Ape escape is better than the American Dub.
>>750247954>>750247828>>750248108>>750248321These are fucking hilarious. Got more?I love how they used the words medical and student to explain what a medical student is. As if repeating them somehow makes it click
>>750254839Of course.
>>750247828the mermaid one is ok and so it gomenesorrythe hundred line shit is inexcusable
>>750254968>hating on based localizations
