The biggest claim that ever gets made is that euphoria physics is better in GTA 4, but it's really not. Atleast not in the way people discribe. Unarmed attacks feel weak and clunky, melee attacks often feel like they don't connect even with a stationary dead body on the ground. The only area I would say it's better is the ragdoll, but having good combat is way more important than a good ragdoll and GTA 5 has much better combat. RDR1 probably had the best balance of the two.Locking on with a weapon is also way too strong, yes you can half pull the trigger but full lock feels like an aimbot.Driving is terrible, even sports cars handle like a container ship. Handbreak turns almost always lead to you spinning out and skill issue is not an excuse for bad game design. The damage model of cars is cool though.>TL;DR>Game is clunky and realistic in all the wrong places
>>750248473>Why do people insist that GTA IV is the better than 5?crowbcat told them sodid you forget the constant spam on that stupid video?nobody here can think for themselves
>>750248473The unarmed attacks are weird but if you know how to fight around it theyre actually pretty satisfying. Because you can get knockout punches based on physics, it's cool. Also stomping someones head in 4 connects great and looks much more brutal than 5.>, but having good combat is way more important than a good ragdoll and GTA 5 has much better combatthe shootouts in 4 are great idk >driving is terrible it's just not for you
shooting and driving is better same with the story and the amount of interiors, map is better liberty city is dense while v's is a bloated mess
>>750248473GTAV doesn't have weight transfer. It can't be taken seriously as a driving game.
>>750248634I'm sure the unarmed and melee attacks can feel good at times, and if you're skilled enough but I'm halfway through my first play-through right now and there's just too many instances where the punches or stabs just don't connect and it really feels like your attacking the air. There's no weight to it.>>750248649Story is meh. I'd say it's deeper and more interesting than 5 in a lot of ways but I find it really hard to actually give a fuck about Niko or any of the characters. GTA 5's story had me actually caring about the characters and how they progressed through the story. GTA 4 just hasnt done that for me but then again I'm only halfway through.>>750248662It has weight transfer, drive a truck around a sharp turn and you see it. It's just not fuck you strong like GTA 4.>It's less realisticEvery game prior to 4 was arcadie, why does every new GTA have to have realistic (less fun) driving mechanics. It's not a driving game, it's not a racing game, it's GTA. It's a crime simulator.
Here you go. You made me run this shit ass game.This is at minimum a 2.5 ton forklift and it can't lift a 1.5 ton Lexus IS300. This is what you would expect from some second rate developer like ubisoft or ea not rockstar.
>>750249186it's not fun if the cars drive like mario kart. it is a driving game, the game is called "Grand Theft Auto"
>>750249263But could GTA 4?
>>750249334no the forklifts have stationary forks
If you don't like the driving in GTAIV there is just nothing further to discuss, you got filtered.
im glad VI has weight againalso glad it's not exaggerated as IV
>>750248473Driving is kinoNiko negs all gta 4 characterskino story'nough said
>>750249559>kino storywhat was so kino about it?it like every gta which is about getting money
>>750249603it's about driving cars and motorcycles not getting money. if you want money get a job.
>>750249647no idiot that's what the gameplay is aboutthe STORY is always about financial gain
>>750249329Just because it's called Grand Theft Auto doesn't mean it's about car theft. Sure that's a major mechanic but none of the stories of GTA have ever had anything to do with vehicle theft. Only a few thriwaway missions here and there.>III is about the criminal underworld and taking revenge.>Vice City is about building a massive criminal empire.>San Andreas is about gang warfare.>IV is about the criminal underworld and taking revenge (in HD this time)>V is about heists and forgiveness.You get the picture, they have nothing to do with Vehicle Theft that's just how the game gets played. It doesn't make it a driving game. The focus isn't on driving like a game like forza or gran tourismo, the focus is on crime.
>>750249365Then why bring up a poorly implemented mechanic of GTA 5 if it never even existed in GTA 4
>>750249763>III is about the criminal underworld and taking revengeagainst a crazy latinawill lucia become her?
>>750248473people are not saying its better, people are saying it has more sovl
>>750249263it's because the forklift operator is black
>>750248473Story, Characters and Atmosphere is the best in the entire series
>>750248473SIMPLY THE BEST
>>750249603nta but to me the story sets up you doing crimes well, and it's paced well. It doesn't feel the need to keep getting more and more insane. and it made me care about Roman. I normally could not care less about characters in video games but he was a good character. loveable fuck-up.
>>750249838it tells you everything you need to know about the physics in the game, or lack thereof
>>750248602I'm 40 years old and I don't know who the fuck "crowbcat" is, what the fuck is wrong with youGTA 4 >>>> GTA 5 because the story is 10 times more grounded, just better overall. The game's humor is better, less wackadoodle shit but still more than enough, better and more memorable characters, better soundtrack.I have never played a fucking GTA game in my life for gameplay so I have no idea which is better -- both play like shit
>>750249186>It has weight transfer, drive a truck around a sharp turn and you see it.dirty clown
>>750250217>both play like shitkek gameplay in general reached its peak back in 2006
>>750250084>and it made me care about Romanroman is a fucking tool lmaogot cucked by the guy u killhe definitely fucked his girl
>>750250217>I'm 40 years old>the story in GTAneck yourself you middle-aged retard
>>750250217pic is right you are a retard andypants
>>750250234tasking my minions to record this in GTAIV
>>750248473Honestly, i prefer the smaller map thats just the city. 5 has a dense city but so much bullshit thats nothing outsise the city. RDR2 fixed that problem so 6 has some hope. We'll see tho if 6 can capture the city feel of v and the world map feel of rdr2
>>750250403Nice reddit spacing newfag zoomoid.Middle-aged websiteMiddle-aged game franchise
>>750250234>uses a van not a truck>doesn't drive at full speed
>>7502484734 is just way cooler. 5 plays better, and I do like 5, but I recently went back to 4 and it's just got so much more of a cohesive vision for the game and world. 5 plays better obviously, but no Rockstar game will ever make the smart ass decision to stretch out the camera as you look up at buildings. It's all the little stuff that makes me wish they'd put that same kind of effort into making the game feel cool
>>750250575>reddit spacingmade up shit from people with no arguments like yourself kill yourself you old fat retard
4 and 5's stories didn't mean anything, but 4's is only because because of how scattered 5's was for having 3 characters for no reason.
>>750250603>didn't post webm
>>750250698Worked into a seething shoot
>old good new badnext question
>>750250794im not the 40yo loser still posting here lmao
>>750251006no, but you will be
>>750251006>he hasn't figured it out yetOuchYou will one day understand why it is worse to spend your time here as an 18-25 year old than it is to spend your time here when you're 40+, married and settled. This website was created by people who are around my age when I was a senior in high school. It is legitimately for us, not you.
>>750251036>>750251140I'M FIFTY
>>750248473>The damage model of cars is cool though. 5 had decent damage models initially, but they got nerfed in next gen versions because of muh first person mode and lazy online update cars
>>750251006Shutup Zoomer retard. The largest demographic of people on this website are over 30 now. If you're under 25 and you post here it's almost a certainty you've never posted on a moot owned 4chan. In which case you're a newfag, and newfags need to share the fuck up.
>>750249848We already know Catalina is Cesar's cousin thanks to SA, they're not going to try and connect it to 6.
>>750249186>GTA 5's story had me actually caring about the characters and how they progressedHow, Michael's story is really the only decent one and his is just>oh I hate my family and now I'm getting dragged back into my old life, eventually I love my family and friends againFranklin was boring as shit and Trevor was just lolsorandumb the character.
>>750251794>am 31>zoomerlol shut up you fucking losergta iv was shit on upon release for being bland as fuck and even SR2 shit on it
>>750251167self-burn that is so self immolating it is actually cool.welcome gramps.
>>750248473>having good combat is way more important than a good ragdoll"No."
>>750248473>GTA 5 has much better combatNo it's not lmao.
>>750248473nostalgiaI played gta 4 when it was the newest one so i can say gta 4 has better world immersion with npcs, picking up objects, eating in restaurants etc, while gta 5 has better gameplay itself (flying, car mods, parachuting, gun customization)
First thing I do when I fire up a new game is check animations. Do the guns have a bolt that throws back in a believable way? Does the vehicle suspension react to minute surface changes, does it sway with weight, movement, and positioning of the vehicle relative to that surface? Does the environmental design seem to have everything people need to survive in that setting, and are the industries replete with all of their tools, raw materials, and products, as well as the logistics to move them? If any one of these is off or significantly worse than a close peer in its other gameplay characteristics, I’m going to go play the peer instead. GTAV failed to deliver a satisfying driving experience coming off of GTAIV and no amount of activity bloat could make the visual experience of doing those activities more satisfying. Gunplay? I’ll go play RE4R. Melee? Onimusha: Way of the Sword. Incredible atmosphere and believable world design? Silent Hill 2 and Mafia: The Old Country respectively, with a nod to the driving physics in Mafia. Well designed and articulated suspension, body roll, and surface physics? Snowrunner. GTAIV is pretty dated these days, but it’s still better than V in one of the main things you do: driving. And I’d rather just go play one of the runner games for that.
>>750250217No, the characters in GTA 4 are exactly the ones clowning around. You say 'GTA 4 >>>> GTA 5 because the story is 10 times more grounded,' but in GTA 4, despite the 'serious' plot, the characters are thoroughly grotesque: Roman with his constant complaining, business ideas, and tantrums; Brucie with his show-off cars and bluster; cartoonish gangsters; absurd missions and constant clownish antics. If the characters are clowns, then the 'grounded story' is largely a facade. GTA V at least doesn't pretend to be a grim drama and honestly works as satire.
>>750252926>GTA is pretty dated these daysFtfy, even Rockstar is trying to shift from 'sandbox' to 'simulation'
>>750253074>rockstar fixing what isnt brokethat seems to be the problem with gta 6
>>750248473>enters internet cafe>types: littlelacysurprise.comyep, it's kino
Contrarians. Neither of them are very good you're just not allowed to dislike 4. I played it a few months ago and it's just as boring and dull as it was in 2008. The driving is great though, it's so good I couldn't stomach replaying GTA 5. I would argue that 5 has better missions and naturally better gameplay. Muh storyfags can get bent 4 is not a rich and deep dark story like you fags make it out to be. You have the radio parodying shit every 5 seconds to take you out of the le grim dark world you claim it is
>>750253270ToT
GTA4 was dull as fuck because it was going to be rockstar's answer to Mafia (which is not a real open world game)
>>750253592exactly. they were mad the original mafia had better TECHNOLOGY
>>750251938>gta iv was shit on upon releaseCope, 98 on metacritic, still beloved to this day> even SR2 shit on itRofl
>>750253056>IV isn't serious because the characters act like people and make jokes lol
>>750254339>on metacriticlmao>Roflokay phonefagname a more memorable moment in IV than Carlos' death in SR2
>>750248473Every time I see GTAV I assume people are talking about the upcoming one, V was so unmemorable to me that my brain keeps insisting that it doesn't exist yet.
numbered titles don't mean shit anymore. there is one live service called GTA Online.
>>750249329you reminded me of all those gta 4 stunt videoshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoR6Qi1q-os
>>750248473because 4 is awesome and 5 sucks ass
>>750254549>''everyone le hated IV''>actually it's the highest rated open world ever and sold millions>''uhmmmm well who cares''lolzThe only people who hated IV were braindead faggots like you who got filtered by the driving and never got over it (still seething 18 years later)>name a more memorable moment in IV than Carlos' death in SR2lol SR2's story isn't even remotely memorable while everyone still praises IV's story for good reason
The intro to GTA4 was iconic, and the theme... damnhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23nqJvHM2F0DADDY'S BACK YOU BITCHES
>>750255091I personally hated IV when it came out, since it wasn't San Andreas. I've come around on it though. Actually started playing it again with all the GTA 6 ads around. It's fun.Maybe I'll start appreciating 5 more if 6 is really disappointing.
>>750248473I don't have a preference of one over the other. Both are two of my favourite games of all time.But GTA V should've kept the NPC health circles. In GTA IV it's so satisfying to beat or shoot people and they get up halfway and stumble away and fall over and lay on the ground incapacitated.GTA V is in most cases three hits and the NPC just dies, doesn't matter if it is fists or guns.
>>750248473>Unarmed attacks feel weak and clunky,GTAV literally doesn't even a melee system. You push attack and your character automatically ice skates 20 meters across the floor to hit whoever is near and the NPC just dies in one hit>Locking on with a weapon is also way too strongJust play with free aim lol>Driving is terrible, even sports cars handle like a container shipGenuine skill issue
>>750255436Gta4 is good for the sandbox rather than the story. Shooting is fun but its tied to their whack physics and annoying sprinting system. Driving sucks but i headcannon it as Niko usrd to eastern european cars that dont have power steering.
>>750255713>You push attack and your character automatically ice skates 20 meters across the floor to hit whoever is nearA bit of an exaggeration. That feels like an overcorrection from GTA IV where there is a tendency to punch air when you're right in front of an enemy and locked in. RDR2 has a great melee system though. The only thing wrong with that is that NPCs that you knocked out doesn't stand up until you've walked a certain distance away from them instead of a certain time from when they were knocked out.
>>750249403The lack of weight and physics in GTAV made the driving get repetitive and boring in replays, while previous GTAs always felt fun to drive around in due to the more complex physics.
>>750248473Because I don't give a shit about technical autism if the game is completely unfun, and GTA V was one of the least fun games I've ever played. IV was decent, but it wins by default regardless.
>>750250217i was going to agree with you until i saw that you posted a picture of gohan so i will have to automatically be contrarian against your point regardless of its validity
>>750248473>S TierVice City, IV, SAMP>A TierIII>B TierV, San Andreas>C TierVCS, LCS>F TierV: Online
>>750254410Yeah, GTA 4 is literally not a serious game. The game doesn’t just contain jokes - it continuously satirizes modern America through radio, television, and the internet.
