Dragon's Dogma 2Arisenbois 'bout to get SPHINXED Edition
>>750259493Dogshit movementDogshit combatDogshit questsAbsolutely atrocious game
So I just had lunch with Kinoshita at Dorsia, and we talked about DD3 vocations. Long story short, everyone is IN. >Fighter & Warrior mostly stay the same, but with ALL of their skills from DD1, 2, O>Strider return and can equip both dagger and bow. But they have to split 6 skill slots for 2 weapons.>Mage renamed to Priest and is one of the only 2 classes with Holy Spells, they now use staff and book weapon combo>Sorceror mostly stay the same, but they can equip sword along with archistaff>Thief & Archer stayed as separate classes. Thief is more like Seeker from DDO with fast attacks and air combo while Archer stay mostly same with DD2 but with more crazy/fantasy skill like ninefold fury>Mystic Knight return with tower shield and mace, new skills, new animations. This is the second class with Holy spells>Mystic Spearhand and Magick archer are officially healer/buffer classes. With MA lean more toward elemental buff and MS provide shield and defensive buff (and dark element).>Alchemist is almost like a summoner class with the ability to "create" construct on the battlefield. Imagine trickster but not shit.>High Scepter return but a lot more balanced than DDO. Their spells are all dark element.After talking, I asked him, "hey what about trickster and warfarer?". Kinoshita raised his eyebrow at me as we both threw our heads back and laughed.
>>750259776>>750259604>>750259493We all hate dragons dogma a lot and I speak for all of us, who are seperate people
no, they're not cold. their hot, that's why they're wearing the bikini.also, does the silence spell just not work against the beorgian wizards?
>>750259886>female archers coat themselves in thermal gelkino........
>>750259942>gelyeah, if that's what you want to call the stuff
god dammit
Is there no way to have your pawn upgrade an evil eye weapon
>>750260558yeah
How do I open the lost rites doors? I'm knee deep in Norgan and the Obelisks are asking me for the flames from these things. Not sure if the main story has anything to do with it but I stopped doing that right before Feast of Deception.
>>750262632>How do I open the lost rites doors?play main quest until you unlock the right tool (a dagger/short sword)
>>750262632You have to basically get to the end of the main gameLike genuinely it requires you to be in a position where the end is right in front of you and it doesn't even make any sense to suddenly stop and do a bunch of dungeons
>>750259493>nigger's nogma 2Embarrassing
>>750259879What games are good in comparison? I think dragons dogma is basically peerless.
>>750262816>>750262838The Godsbane? How the fuck were you supposed to know that??
>>750259493Iblive taking ky wife for a nice long ride across the border!
>>750262971Anon, it needs to be empoweredAnd in case you also forgot, there are maybe 3 main quests after you get to that city before credits
>>750263132The doors have the same design as the 3 godsbane mechanisms that were in the base gameAnd you still have it in ng+, which all of the dlc content and hard mode seem designed around
>>750262632You'll need to progress further in the base game story to get the item to open Lost Rite doorsYou now have eternal ferrystones and more generous supply of portcrystals, so just go back and forth between Vermund and Norgan as you please
>>750263132>The Godsbane? How the fuck were you supposed to know that??To access the final area of the main game you must use the Godsbane on a giant gate bearing the same symbol as the Lost Rites doors. Same mechanics, same symbol. It's the jap's fault for not treating the average player like a mongoloid
>>750263228>>750263279>>750263679ok to be fair I started a new file and the last time I had the godsbane was 3 years ago
>>750259493Looks like Fairuza Balk
>>750264116It's a weird macguffin so yeah fair
I beat Satan. What now? More rifts to fight true Satan + UW Lost rites?
Remember to treat your older pawns nicely
>>750264938Yes, though you're already overprepared for the lost ritesThose dungeons really feel like they weren't meant to drop with this dlc, aside from their placement being weird and half-assed to begin with
After 5 fimbul ambushes, fucking finallyI beat hyper Satan and I beat Death, I guess I'm done
>>750263679Damn you
I was too reliant on Corkscrew Arrow + Augural Flare as Warfarer in my Normal run.Guess things will go south if I attempt Hard mode as a pure Fighter/Warrior or even Sorcerer.
>>750263679fuck you corrupted burger king
What are good pawn combinations? I officially met Eir in the snowfields, and I'm kind of considering switching up to playing pure support mage, and spam buffing and healing and etc my pawns as a mage, while they tear shit up. But I still don't know what inclination+vocation combos are good. Not to mention the spells or skills that fuck the pawn ai.Even with pawns that seem to be well geared up they still get destroyed in every fight at some point and go down
>>750265658You can do it.
>>750265930Fighter dude. Just always fighter.
Crazy how there's literally no lore on the not-spartan civilization, nothing you find in those dungeons references anything at all about themWhy was all their stuff built to test an arisen who already possessed a godsbane? We don't knowWhy are they vaguely associated with brine-corrupted monsters? We don't know, we don't even know if that was purposeful or not but it wouldn't make sense either wayWhat was Talos trying to accomplish? lol, lmaoDid they want to help the cycle? Stop the cycle? Was every act of defiance against the cycle all planned out in advance and the janny was in on it the whole time? We may never know
>>750265101Lost rites outside of UMW are like level 40.
>>750266268Stop asking questions.
>fire goat jumps over you>activates the magnet in its hand>your metal gear gets suck to the ground in front of it>starts a million stab combo on your helpless assQuestionable gameplay decisions.
>>750266447Just block.
>>750259493hey blastbros, what is the best place to do get the STRIKE achievo? pretty please
>>750259493god shes so FUCKING hoti have never been so attracted to a fictional girl
>>750263679GodsBANE?
>>750266745UMW rites
>>750265991sick shot
>>750259493>can't even romance a single sphinxshit game, man. absolute garbage.
>>750265991Saved
>>750267254Thanks, sorry im spamming them all from this morning.
>game has cool screenshot function>most people just post their characters just standing and don't even try to frame a shot correctly>girl is the subject in the picture hihiDamn coomies
So why the hell is DA2 so much fucking better than the base game? Unlike what some memers say the original DA merely complimented the base game DD1, but this feels like an entirely different product. When I even think about the base game. Vermund and especially Batahl, I get nauseous. Is it just the tried and true kino "frozen north" tone? I don't think it's just that. The combat feels way better. The game even LOOKS better with a much more discerning eye for aesthetics like here >>750265991Is this ALL Kinoshita's doing?!?!
>>750267375To be fair, sometimes there is so much shit happening at once that it's hard to get a coherent shot.What I wouldn't give for a better pose function like on modded cyberpunk.
>>750267367dont bother me bro I enjoy seeing anons sharing their gameplay webms/screenshots
>>750259776>he got a res at dorsia*sweating*
>>750267375There's usually so much shit going on and so fast I've scarcely a moment to register what I even want to stake a screen of
morning arisensgonna get up and runnign
>>750267375Because I don't want to have to sit and be ready to hit the photomode button at the right time. It would be used a lot more if there was some sort of 15 - 30s rewind feature so you can go back and frame a shot that you might've missed. There's too much going on most of the time and you rarely happen to capture the right moment when something cool or funny happens.
>>750267748wish it had the option to move it forward frame by frame like koei tecmo games photo mode has.
>>750259493Can I fuck the Sphinx yet
>>750267445I am using DLSS5 thoughbeit
>>750267848guess the lighting of the arena made it somewhat less noticeable this time. sick af screenshot but dlss still soulless af and looks like absolutely shit any other time.
>>750267848even factoring that in the game has a much greater attention paid towards moody lighting and aesthetics than the base game, for example fighting the big giant nigga in the blizzard for the sphinx quest
FUCK the monster that eats your pawni know to attack the belly to get them out, but it can be so finicky to get therethen it just instantly eats another one lol
>>750263679fuck you i'll brine your ass
>>750267445It's a tighter scope that's limited by being a DLC, but that in turn reigns in some of the impulses that a dev might have when they're making something from scratch or think they have lots of time to make stuff. This also lends itself better to the format of DD, in my opinion; it should be noted that Dragon's Dogma and Monster Hunter both come from the same early brainstorming sessions Capcom had in early 2000s. The result of this is that decisions that shaped early MH games also work very well for DD.- One small hub. The result is less inconvenience for the player, everything in one place, you gain familiarity with the location and NPCs faster. You care more about, it feels more like a homebase, coming back to it is a good feeling. Very similar to classic MH in this respect.- The world is smaller. The DLC compensates for this with more verticality and puts in mechanics that allows to travel distances quicker (the fence posts, locked doors) on repeat journeys. It does a good job making it feel big despite this, though world design.- A few gimmicks tied to the region but not completely dominated by them. More focus in that regard.- An actual serviceable story with a limited scope, and a plot that serves gameplay progression well.It doesn't seem like much but in terms of meaningful journeys, attachment, pacing etc. it all adds up to something I consider way more immersive.The template of what Dragon's Dogma "should" be is basically defined by this DLC and the answer is, it just needs to be like an early MH game but focusing more on being Party Adventure Simulator than the "Jobbing Hunter For The Tribe" fantasy that MH was. Every time MH tries to be an Elder Scrolls or Red Dead it just fails spectacularly.
>>750267445Aside from downsides >>750265678 mentions, the DLC map and mechanics fundamentally give you a fast travel hub, straightforward combat quests with straightforward destinations, and it rewards exploration with spoils. Three things that worked wondersThen the combat in the game is finally allowed to breathe with big mixed encounters and more difficulty. They could honestly push it even harder what with elemental and debilitation stuff.
>>750266268It‘s a lost civilization and the Brinejanny is beyond mortal ken.They‘re fundamentally unknowable. And that’s good.Unless a 4th wall item description sheds more light on them.You only get to know wtf is the Seneschal because the old one was tired of that crap and directly told you things. There was no way for a lesser cognition to fathom anything about it.Even in 2 guys like Phaesus only strictly know about The Dragon cycle. They barely scratch what‘s under the surface. Only Rothais and the crazy old guy implied to be first-hand witnesses of any kind.>>750267445Norgan is well integrated into quests. Even sidequests in the base game didn‘t seem to take you to cool places for the most part.The misty undead village and ancient battleground feel like they ought to have bigger and more relevant questlines, something you get with the Beorcan Fortress and that one other big castle.
So dlc nafter ng+DLC during a new gameWhats the better thing
>>750268370Say what you will about dd1, its quests basically served as an excuse to travel to every corner of the game world. That basically doesn't happen in dd2. I did like finding things on my own but I missed the Sphinx entirely first time.
>>750259493why'd they make her like this and then you can't fuck her?
>>750268370>The misty undead village and ancient battleground feel like they ought to have bigger and more relevant questlines, something you get with the Beorcan Fortress and that one other big castle.Wholeheartedly agree. I've basically just started Norgan but it just feels like a more distilled version of what's good about DD in general. Exploring is fun, areas are relevant, it has a good enough challenge to it (coming from NG+ anyway).
>>750268545Both work but DLC gear breaks base game. So depends on if you've done that before.
>>750268630Dont really care for being OP
>>750268569>That basically doesn't happen in dd2.this is unironically a good thingi'm tired of games holding your hand to show off every content, it completely fucks up and ruins explorationda2 is very guilty of this, so many areas i went to that i couldn't do anything with until the main quest had me go there later
>>750268686>break into catland before MQ sends you there thinking it'll be interesting to knock off some quests there and maybe change something in the story>noBattahl is so wasted. The only neat thing that you can do when breaking in is using the godsbane to get through to the hot springs sooner. And now some of the dlc dungeons I guess.
SHOW THY ARISEN AND THY TRUSTY PAWN
>>750268686I agree but finding a balance is incredibly hard. Just since devs still need to make all the shit you might never see and thus might as well never get experienced by the average tastemaker gamer essayists. I recall beating a rancour right out of the gate in da2 and the Pathfinder basically jumps in to say "uh Arisen stop doing these now you need to find out what they're for before completing them."I guess he's perfect for that sort of interruption but it is funny.
>>75026868650/50.Got to explore a few quest areas in 2 before I got the side quest that took me to it.Doesn't mean you couldn't get better questlines if you managed to find/go to the swamp and the battlefield. The dullahan fight is too little, Oskar's quest doesn't even go much further than climbing two towers and ringing a bell to appease the dead.>>750268887Technically you shouldn't even be able to enter the city without the permit the cat lady gives you but the game is so busted guards will only say weird things to you but other than that you can use every facility just fine.It's weird.
>>750267375*object
>>750259493Why does she have to do the crazy stare thing all the time? She already knows if you have the right answer before you even step into her temple.
>>750268889Thine*
>>750268967The fact that you can buy the Battahl house without the permit is both amusing and kind of annoying.
>>750268984purely for the benefit of my penis
>still using lvl 5 gear >dont have the money to upgrade>nor the items to upgrade gearmh
>>750268889Default Savan preset with cleaner skin and anime hair. Pawn is the female preset next to him except blonde.
>>750269118SHOW
>walk to the lost rite in the coral snake hideout in UW>Right before the entrance theres 2 ogres>One of them is molesting a male banditSo does the brine turn ogres into faggots then?
>>750269152You know what Savan looks like. Don't be a dummy.
>>750268887i had to mentally rape myself to convince myself I was enjoying Battahl, I kept telling repeating it was like Conan's Hyborian world, woaah look at that cool harsh desert land, I just didn't want to accept the awful truth
posting some pawns i found
>Underlevelled pawn keeps telling me they're too weak to continue and I should hire someone else
>>750269375>>750269323FUCKING KEK
>>750269323At least he looks minty fresh.
>>750267375Game looks like shit in motion, always some sort of blur effect. You'll rarely ever get a good screencap mid fight.
>>750269323
>>750269282I enjoyed it for what it was. Traversing the zone is pretty cool, it looks amazing and plenty of caves to stumble upon. It's just completely wasted in terms of everything else.Could have made the zone a third smaller and it would not have changed anything tbqh
my favorite
>>750269323>>750269375>>750269546>>750269763Honestly impressive, I've yet to find a creative or funny pawn. Its all gooner shit
>>750269763I saw chad too on my travels
>>750269881Thats my biggest grip with the PC player base. Low player count + infinite goonerie and I have gooner fatigue
>>750259493Sphinx out here looking like she's about to reject my application because I don't fit the company culture
>>750269989>Biggest grip
>>750269881>Its all gooner shitMost players don't want to spend 80+ hours on an adventure with an ugly creature.
>>750269323This guy ended up being one of the first pawns my pawn knows, gave me a sensible chuckle seeing it for the first time 60 hours ago.
>>750270116I get that, I did a normal looking pawn on my first playthrough as well but even then, it's always the same pawn? The majority of pawns are female and they all look like shit
>>750269881>>750269989I don't encounter much gooner shit but if i ever dare hire a male warrior pawn they ALL have that sassy gay cunt Tim Curry impression voice where all they do is bitch that I'm not following them or some other douchebag quip. And nowadays everyone is wearing the northern cuirass.
>>750270056
>>750264190>she showed me her boobies and i liked those too
>>750269881/ddg/ is mostly riftsluts, but it does have some funny ones
>>750269881i simply ignore the million white haired waifus. why is there so many kratos clones though? and not even the good kratos, but faggot nu-kratos. for shame, normalfags.that's all pictures i've taken til now. here's my arisen
>>750269415It sucks growing attached to.other peoples pawns when you find a good one.
>dragtroon dogshitma 2 Shitsuno was a hack and made 0 good gameCrapcom should've fired his ass ages ago
>>750269415Don't be sad that it's over, be glad that it happened.
>>750259604But enough about Elden Ring
>>750270451ever since the original game I always gravitate towards pawns who's owners clearly dropped the game and abandoned them
>>750270403>why is there so many kratos clones though? and not even the good kratos, but faggot nu-kratos.lol True.
My bed calls, and I shan't resist.
>>750270403Somebody could make a series just reviewing Kratos and Freiren clones.
sexsexSEXSEXSEX!!!!!!!!!!!! oh but got an animal body and oh oh oh oh oh!!!!!! :O :O :O
>>750270403Norse region and Viking aesthetics now attract Better Men (bald gen X pegging fetishists)
>>750267445>So why the hell is DA2 so much fucking better than the base game?The team was able to make the true Dragon's Dogma experience under Kinoshita. The talents are always there, it's just poopsuno holding them back.I'm not even meming, look at the base game and DLC. Both are open world, but Norgan is more vertical with proper open areas and underground passages, while the vanilla world is just corridors with almost non-existent verticality. New upgrade skills give proper class fantasy, Archer shooting fuck tonnes of arrows, Fighter blocking everything, and Warrior deleting monster health bars in an instant. All that while still remains a proper challenge in Hard Mode (though I admit the Reversal ring combo is pretty OP)Hacksuno is like George Lucas, he got interesting ideas. But he NEEDS a good director/team to turn the concept into a good game. He needs someone to tell him what is good and what is bad from all the ideas.
>>750270907bro it's literally the exact same thing but with gacha equipment.
>complainfags need you to knowwhy?
>>750267445Because you're a subhuman discord tranny
>>750270907The level design is better because it's a small dlc, your take on the skills is a joke, and hard mode becomes nothing after enough time just like always
>>750270986False and he's right about the actual world design, DD2 is just corridors with no real open terrain, the closest thing was the farmland around Vernworth
>>750270986Walk through Norgan start to finish and compare that to the base game journey. Completely different
>>750270986Doesn't look the same, doesn't feel the same. Even just the enemy density and matchups are super different.
>>750271072I'm going to enjoy you schizophrenic cultists continuing to deteriorate over time as DA2 gets all the praise it rightly deserves while the base DD2 gets even more shit upon deservedly
>>750271167Ahem, I like both but for different reasons
>>750270907>Hacksuno is like George Lucas, he got interesting ideas. But he NEEDS a good director/team to turn the concept into a good game. He needs someone to tell him what is good and what is bad from all the ideas.Honestly best description of itsuno vision i've heard so far. Just imagine unmoored world with kinoshita at the helm?
Why troonsuno's fan so mentally ill?Nobody likes visionVanilla dd1 and 2 are pure trash and it was kinoshita who made these game playable
>>750270841her boobies jiggle around when you get to fly on her back
>>750270907>>750271291I don't agree about Itsuno being Lucas, Lucas wanted to earnestly tell his story but if DD2 is any indication Itsuno legitimately wanted to inflict intense psychic damage upon the players. It's the most hateful game I've ever played where the mechanics were designed deliberately to be unpleasant and antagonistic towards the players. There was also an overall lack of care that George would never put into any of his stuff. Even Darth Icky is a more soulful name than placeholder names like 'Checkpoint Rest Town" or "Ancient Battleground."
>>750271291Just imagine dd1 and 2 remake by kinoshitaGod I'm hard af
>>750271113>Even just the enemy densityNorgan's enemy density is no different from Battahl. Even the annoying fuckass rock lizard spam is the exact same.
>>750271167Whatever helps you cope, discord tranny
wind status?
>>750271291Kinoshita was combat designer in DA1 under Itsuno, then he directed DA1. He just takes Itsunos hard work and slaps RNG loot on it and gives you real difficulty for a change. Not that I'm complaining.
>>750271291>Just imagine unmoored world with kinoshita at the helm?All immediacy and threat removed, five times as many portcrystals, several unrewarding challenges you blow through in a few minutes and can grind over and over again for no real reason, some throwaway quests with okay writing but no sense that anyone is pressed for time or cares all that much because you're the hero and they read the script so they know you save themSo basically what we have now but with different quests
>>750271624>Shitsuno's hard workHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
>>750270841Ive havjt had much time to play and havnt gotten to the new areas yet. What does this one do? Does she leave forever like the base game?
Is the dlc really that better in overall presentation?I feel like the maingame right now feels pretty "big"ish and grand
>>750271624He also directed DDON without itsunoMy only worry is that kinoshita might turn the plot into generic fantasy anime slop. I give him the benefit of the doubt and assume the DDON setting was because it was a japanese MMO
>>750271624>Itsunos hard work
>>750271731She says she os going to warmer climes but I have not seen her elsewhere.
>>750271675>All immediacy and threat removed, five times as many portcrystals, several unrewarding challenges you blow through in a few minutes and can grind over and over again for no real reason, some throwaway quests with okay writing but no sense that anyone is pressed for time or cares all that much because you're the hero and they read the script so they know you save themKek unmoored world already plays out like that
>>750271743Yes way better than the base game even though it's really just Skyrim
>>750271675Nobody like wasting time walking on a empty ugly open worldDD2 is literally unplayable without perma port crystal and eternal ferrystones
>>750271795Possible hint at another dlc? If they ended up giving it one this far down its not impossible.
>>750271754DDO had much bigger problems than the setting looking more like final fantasyIf it didn't have a similar combat system then nobody would remember that game at all
>>750271821Dang now i just wanna go and start it
>>750271743Shitsuno's dogma 2: 3/10Kinoshitas arisen 2: 8/10
>>750271714The guy pitched a systems based action RPG before monhun established something like a precedent for it. He is the reason for a lot of weird and interesting systems making up DD. Kinoshita is responsible for the combat, and itsuno was working with Kinoshita for ages. There's no extreme conflict here: they both worked to make the same games cores.
>>750271819Wow, you don't sayThat's crazy man
if the devs just coded for sucking, motorboating, and tittyfucking sphinx tits the game would actually step up to decent, step down to porn gamebethesda clones succeed because of lore, not their bugged af sandbox
DDON is still the best dragon's dogma because shitsuno had no involvement in itDD3 going to be the best dragon's dogma ever
>>750271876Get to level 40, then do all the dungeons in base game which will get you to like 90 then do DLC. Its perfect.
>>750271859Please for the people on DLC hopium here keep in mind that it is very standard for AAA games to have atleast one DLC planned before release. DA2 wasn't out of nowhere. These hints pointing towards another DLC are just teasing in case capcom does commission another one for DD2
>>750271835Norgan would be significantly improved without it
>>750271892Jesus all i've read made it seem like "gacha like dungeon crawler">>750271972On it!
>>750271461The difference is in Norgan you're going on a journey to stop the big bad evil dragon at the summit. Every enemy you face gives you loot, so you carve your way up slowly, getting stronger along the way. While in vanilla, you need to go to the volcanic island because a ghost shows up and tells you to. Every enemy drops the exact same 300G and horn (God's mercy on you if you play Archer because good luck buying back all those arrows every single trip like this), and when you're at the top, you meet with a literal who black guy with a shitty haircut that died in 1 hit.
>>750271291>>750271624>>750271765>>750271835>>750271957Getting flashbacks of how monster hunter fanbase was divided by gen u.
>>750271989"Gacha like dungeon crawler" is still better than anything poopsuno made
>>750271989Nobody called Bitterblack Isle a gacha dungeon
>>750271989They brought back the appraisal system from DA1 and trannies are tweaking. You don't need to autistically farm gear like its a gacha to finish the DLC. Everything after is just extra>>750271936Exactly you little tranny faggot so kinoshita could've only done better>>750271980Just don't use them u dumb negroid
>>750272125That's true, because gacha wasn't a buzzword yet and you could just manipulate the RNG loot.
>>750271743Base DD2 is a 7.5/10 and DA2 is a 9/10. Ignore the discord tranny raid saying the vanilla game is bad.
>>750271743The soundtrack is already improved a fuckton and they focused on only a few characters so yeah it is nicer to play
>>750272025>Every enemy you face gives you loot, so you carve your way up slowly, getting stronger along the way.Waste of a system, honestlyLoot means nothing when the progression and usefulness of anything you pick up is so poorly planned out, every drop might as well be artificially induced dopamine from a pavlov response>you need to go to the volcanic island because a ghost shows up and tells you toYou're chasing the low level bad guy theoretically at the heart of the entire plotline up to that point>Every enemy drops the exact same 300G and hornSome of which were actually useful when the game technically revolved around an actual economy
>>750272137>so kinoshita could've only done betterYou might want to sit down when I tell you this, anonThis whole post is astonishingly low IQ
>>750269881not true, eyeballtank
>>750272271Dude just dont play and fuck off out of the thread, your negativity is so gay. YWNBAW
Pawns make better Fighters or Warriors?
>>750272171It is though. The game runs out of gas at battahl. I played every DD including DDON and 2 was the worst experience. I managed to finish the base game on release because Im a big fan and I was clinging onto hope that there is a big pay off for all 80% of dungeons being a cave with ferrystone chests
>>750272405Fighter is my vote
>>750259886how did beorcans get built like that
dd2+cdTHAT would be the perfect 200h+ game
>>750272271Granted the main plot is a red herring: you've been told to basically become the king. And you know you were fucked over into becoming a slave instead by someone. That's the guy: kill him and become the king. This is all a red herring, none of it fucking matters.Turns out the dragon didn't give a fuck about your quest. They also don't care about the real quest maybe because they've seen what happens when someone challenges the rebellious seneschal.Kinda based but retarded too.
Am I crazy or should I start avoiding ALL sorc pawns in the dlc. It's bad enough that every sorc pawn just spams maelstrom at completely wrong times, but they just don't even cast regular spells even if you strip them of maelstrom and meteoron. It's so weird sorc pawns fucking suck in the dlc. If you're not using all fighters/archers/thiefs you're just prolonging every fight by like 3x as long as it'd last with all physical and melees
>>750272438Uh oh you forgot to dilate
>>750272358chair and rope or bath and toaster, pick either and do your parents a favor tranny
>>750272567you warrior2 pawns warrior1 fighteror put 1 archer in it for shits
>dlc flopped >also no one bought the switch 2 version this is it for the major franchise, next up is the milds expansion flopping
>>750272567Get a calm sorc with fewer skills.
>>750272498I think Beercans are what Japanese think the average gaijin looks like
>>750272556It's apparent itsuno wanted to do a political intrigue slowly building up to the cycle stuff but later realized "oh shit we gotta wrap things up"
>>750272596What warrior skills are good they all feel similar or just whatever. I loved warrior in 1 but 2 removed jumping attacks and idk the animation locks feel a lot worse. Not to mention every enemy in the dlc just spazzes around the fight unless they're just the big old tanky beorcans with the big stick
Been trying virulent vortexes and they ain‘t for me.Should I try the big one or just skip to Kaioken Satanachia now that I got the 3 thingies to power him up?
>killing the bellymouth while it has a pawn swallowed will permakill the pawn, tooI am sorry, Rei. I didn't know.
>>750272662Yeah frankly the base game has the main problem of not being finished, as a director Itsunos main job is to get it finished.
>>750259776>no assassinEnjoy the mixed reviews
>>750272702Do giga satan, get some weapon drops from him and then do devouring vortex.The devouring vortex is unironically more difficult than satanachia if you are not cheesing
>boot up dd1>Skip base game entirely and jump straight to bbi >Blast for 100+hrs>Uninstall>Boot up dd2>Skip base game entirely and jump straight to norgan>Blast for 100+ hrs>Uninstall
>>750272818You need to get to vernworth to do the DLC in 2...
>>750272889>Not playing dd2 with Skip base game modNgmi
>>750272405in my experience, Fighters. Warriors will just swing at the air.
>>750271072>discord schizo who posted the fake discord screens in every thread was a shitsuno shill along
>>750272498>>750272650Hail Wōdanaz
Dragon's dogma future is bright Kinoshita and capgoat will finally give us our dream game
>>750272982>Being brownSucks to be you
>>750271624>noooo you aren't using my hecking oxcarterinos with that eternal ferrystone>my vision is shattering nooooo aiiieee
>>750272576You first, shitposting retard
Even if I try filtering the rift for pawns that haven't travelled to Norgan I still keep getting only those with dlc gear.
>>750273117Turns out I did use them even with eternal ferrystone for obvious reasons.
>>750272818da1 is literally just a single corridor with gacha mechanics, how the fuck is it better than base dd1
>>750272775Thanks.Not gonna grind those vortexes any more than I have to. Shit gets too crazy for me.Even then I took a lot of mileage out of this dlc.
>>750259493How is the upgraded artillery shot for the Mystic Spearhand if you make sure the enemy is foreboned before hand? Really dont get what my nuke option is for the class. The meister skill is fine but drains all my stamina, and the second meister skill sounds like it should help deal a lot of damage with the plunge maybe? Or do I just accept spearhand can't do more than OKAY damage and makes up for it in support and mobility?
>DD1 plot: a simple hero's journey, you're a chosen one chasing after a big bad evil dragon. The truth of the world unravels as you get closer to the dragon.>DA plot: a mysterious Isle make-up from twisting corridors filled with demonic creatures, you answer a call for help from a mysterious woman to investigate. >DD2 plot: you're a chosen one, you're supposed to be king, but now you're not. A ghost tells you what to do, until a lion man tells you what to do, until a wizard tells you what to do, until a dragon shows up.>DA2 plot: big bad evil dragon shows up (again) in a Winter Wonderland, you chase after it to make sure it doesn't kill everyone. Yeah. I'm thinking Skyrim wonned bigly.
>>750273007Keep seething discord tranny
>>750273325you just know
>>750273324Spearhand is just okay damage and good shields.
>>750272650>average jap is 1.5m>average europeam is 1.8mmaybe we do look like giant freaks to them
>>750271754DDON improved on several aspects of the first game (more so than 2), but where it dropped it dropped HARDMost of it's issues are due to it being an MMO though, including the aesthetics
>>750273368Keep seething about how norgan turned a dogshit 4/10 into a 7/10
>>750273324Spear did great damage in the base game with the stack attack buff on the wyrm spear. But yeah you kinda got the idea, it's a bit like insect glaive. Utility moves but not much bread and butter.
>>750273579idk i think it's overliance on the stagger mechanics for damage is a huge mistake and the main reason i ended up dropping it
>>750271989>all I've read>readPlay, nigger, some things don't translate over to text
>>750272984i found my warrior pawn a perfect warrior pawn gf. i'm just letting them do their stuff, while the archer pawn tells them to get a room
>>750270907Not to be rude but that's retarded. You could have fooled me with this after DD1. But since DD2 brings absolutely nothing new to the table, makes all the same mistakes, and needs the exact same guy to save it?Itsuno is just a hack.
>>750273325Kek good bait
Petition to remake dd1 and 2 base game
these threads read like some one asked a bot to script up what a thread on 4chan about DD would look like and the anon is just feeding the replies here.
>>750273579 MMOs are not actually required to have shit world design or uninteractive questsIt's not even like it has the usual MMO roadblocks, most of the content is a 4 player co-op experience at maximum
>>750273652That's due to it being an MMO. It relies, or rather, FORCES party dynamics on you constantly.Every issue with DDON ends with "it's an MMO" lmaoShould have been a Majora's Mask type entry instead of an MMO with a short lifespan
>>750273754There were always trannies derailing shit as far back as DD1
>>750273683Itsuno is the reason there's a pawn system, climbing monsters, gear based scaling, the vocation system, the open world, etc. kinoshita did most of the combat for the base dd1.
>>750273754vote for me as the new chancelor (the arisen doesn't care about managing the arisendom) and i will personally execute all these retards.
>>750273806what? That makes no sense to my post. See this is my point, the whole board feels like scripted answers. I hope they pay you for this.
>>750273832He had those ideas in the 2000s and then never made anything decent with them at all.
Unmoored has>time limit>non respawning monsters>no wakestone farmWhat was shitsuno thinking bros, they tried to cope by giving it exclusive dungeons but unmoored is still a pointless location
>>750273926He made dragons dogma, retard. Kino man was on his team and made the combat for it.
>>750273920It literally does because assuming the bot took data from older threads he would naturally learn how to post like a tranny shitposterAnyway you shouldn't be surprised, this is the fate of all /v/ threads eventually. Theres simply not enough to talk about. There was a plot discussion in earlier threads. Still it's a miracle theres threads hitting the limit to begin with
>>750273973>He made [most mediocre franchise ever conceived only liked by a couple of people who enjoy THE COMBAT and thought it'd be nice if it was in a good game]Yeah we know
Owari da...
i don't like how the dlc went full retard with the enemy encounterssometimes it feels like a turn-based rpg where you don't get any turnsobviously the panws should help but they're way too retarded to handle it so most of the time they're doing nothing until they eventually eat the floor
>>750273941>exclusive dungeons>in unmooredWhich ones were those
>>750273832>Itsuno is the reason there's a pawn system, climbing monsters, gear based scaling, the vocation system, the open world, etc.yeah. literally everything in dd1. I get it. DD2 doesn't incorporate anything new at all. iteven falls backwards in many ways.>Itsuno is a great visonary!is the dumbest fucking shit.
>>750274147You sound like a ranged/magecuck.It's easy to send everything in your vicinity flying in norgan
>>750274147>get stunlocked by fallen dragon ghouls on hard>Eir is just standing above me spamming anodyne instead of helping>Shes also mad
>>750274101We need to start killing you people
>>750273832>Coop>pawn system>Climbing is a gimmick and gets boring after a while>Rng gear>dd style gear system>Vocations are just class system which exist since forever>Open world is the worst part of both dd and bbi was a breath of fresh air
>>750274090It's more like that it learned how to post like the shills for this game that call everyone a tranny for having mild criticisms of the game
>basic bitch defend core skill that can also deflect if you time it right>shield skill that counters physical attacks coming from the front>shield skill that auto deflects every physical attack if you aren't in an attack animation at the moment>shield skill that protects against damn near everything as long as you have staminaDevs really like shields.
>>750274293>Open world is the worst part of bothNo it isn't. You would instantly drop this franchise if you go into Dragons Dogma 3 and it's completely streamlined
>>750274186A few lost rites dungeons with an exclusive boss to try to make the main game relevant, kinoshita had to throw shitsuno a bone i guess
>>750274147>NOOOO WHY DLC SO HARD WAH WAH SAVE ME SHITSUNO I WANT PISS EASY EMPTY WORLD ADVENTURE
>>750274101Well lucky for you there's another better game out there that does exactly that and gets rid of all the itsuno rubbish like pawns, the mediaeval fantasy, the open world, bleh
>>750274272>No argumentI will accept your concessionAND I'll add salt to the injury, NO ONE would ever like or play both Dragon's Dogma games if it wasn't for the baller combat and movement (for the first one anyway they fumbled the second).Don't believe me? Main trickster and pretend it's a turn-based game. Play it for 400 hours.
>>750274375Oh I thought we are talking about unmoored before kinoshita DLC
>>750274186There are a couple of places you can explore after the water drains but I wouldn‘t call them dungeons.Some are better than the average base game cave.
>>750274293>Climbing is a gimmick and gets boring after a whileMad cuz bad lmao>I hate RPGs actuallyWe know, faggot
>>750274317wish they'd loosen the warrior's counter skill window a little bit.
>>750274358>DD3 but no open worldI hope so
>>750274406There isn'tWe're all stuck in this awful franchise because the combat has no replacementYou, however, can find any number of itsuno-slop games if you exclude the combat, except perhaps the pawn system
>>750274101I prefer DA, but the the pawns system deserves credit
My honest opinion on the dlc is that the experience is fantastic, but once you beat Satan you quickly see the issues with gearing.Both in power (BF4 deletes everything but the dragon corpse, death, and Satan) and how annoying the rng is as an endgame loop.You pretty much just cycle the big rift and Satan after a point and it just gets boring fast cause everything gets shredded by the gear you get and some monsters, like the stupid dementors who have literally two attacks.>>750274293>coop > pawnHow about both? Give me a 2p coop DD where it's you, your pawn, a bud, and his pawn.>rng gear > anythingNo. Fuck you. Die horribly.
>>750274423Boo hoo, fake fanYou people have been trying this bullshit for 14 years and it'll never work
>>750274293The vocations and how they can be swapped around and customised are pretty unique
>>750274293>>Coop>pawn systemDon't you have some shovelware friendslop threads you can move over to
>>750274492I agree, I was going to add that the pawn system is the only real contribution, even the climbing is just a rip off from Castlevania Lord of Shadows (kek)>>750274532>fake fanThere it is, the reason you're seething, and pissing and cumming in your pantsYou're a retarded faggot that made defending a dogshit game your identity and any insult to it is an insult to you, because your life is too mediocre to have anything worth defending and you're too much of a failure of a man to defend something worthwhileKill yourself shill, no one likes you and you stink every thread you're into
>>750274532We are no fan of dragon's dogshitWe are here for kinoshita's arisen
>>750274485Well yeah. That's why the itsuno hate is odd.Or on the other hand you can start playing DMC5 right now just like this guy >>750274293 wants to
WHAT WARRIOR SKILLS ARE GOOD IM IN THE DLC PLAYIGN WARRIOR
>>750274532>He thinks anyone in here other than him actually likes dragon's dogmaWe're all in here for the combat rajeesh, sorry to disappoint
>>750274745The upgraded spin skill, overhead bonk and heavensword is all you need
anyone playing solely 1 pawn mode?
>>750274738The combat is, per your own admission, not shitsuno's, but kinoshita'sItsuno's good ideas ended in the 2000s, so this is a concession to meDMC5 has nothing to do with Dragon's Dogma and the fact that you think the combat is the same if you change these arbitrary systems on top of it makes me think you either never played it or has no mental agency
>>750274773>Indian shitposter brings up Indian shitpostingIronic
>dmc is saved and dmc6 will be made by kamiya >Dragon's dogma is saved and dd3 will be made by kinoshitaCapcom is healing
>>750274671If it's so dogshit then why are you here, shitposting nigger
>>750274745pre-"final" boss, Heavenward Sunder and upgraded tidal wrathpost-"final" boss, everything as long as you bring Blood Pact.
>>750274893>everyone that disagrees with me is an indian shitposter saar>even though I'm the one derailing the thread and acting like a spastic retard
>>750274358The open world is easily the worst part of the game, they don't do anything with it at all. What I want from dd3 is a long list of things they should have already done in dd2. nobody gives a shit about the open world with nothing in it. the much smaller DLC areas have much better reception for a reason.I would much rather have proc gen lost rite dungeons. I would take the middle ground hub world. last place would be open world.>>750274745jump, swing up!swing DOWN!counter.run at you dragging dirt, swing up!those are the only moves you need. the last one is just for mobility.
>>750274941Because of the non-Itsuno parts you faggotAre you a leftist? What are your opinion on the game having a shit ton of niggers?Only leftists can't tolerate discourse and turn everything into an echo chamber
>>750274870I always go 1 pawn mode in unmoored world and delete the save after the true ending because all the good things must end
>>750274212not when you have 3 lesser demons stunlocking your ass and your mage keeps running up to you to cast anodyne instead of casting succor only to get flung away by a stray swipe
>>750274980>What I want from dd3 is a long list of things they should have already done in dd2This, it's amazing how bad they fumbled thingsNO ONE liked DD1 for what it was, but for what it could have been if it was competently doneAtp the skyrim shitposters from back in the day were just right
>>750275026>DiscourseIs that what you think you're doing? lmao"uh the entire series is shit and nobody ever liked it because it's not a roguelike" is not 'discourse', it's faggy shitposting
>>750275081People say lesser demons ignore aggro that doesn't seem true to me. they might have an aggro reset or something but they don't straight up ignore it like satan or ghouls.my fighter is constantly blocking against half the map with 3 aggro perks.
>>750275178>he thinks several different people with several different talking points are all one guyYou're legitimately schizophrenic, and you don't deserve any medsIt's morally bankrupt that society allows you to live
>>750274883I think there's a way to be less of a cunt but you're not good at it.I brought up how itsuno did everything but the combat. We agree. The combat is very good. Perhaps a game with just continuous Capcom style hitstop combat on giant enemies and mooks would be up your alley then.Remember. No pawns. No mediaeval open world. No climbing. No varied vocations. That's all itsuno.You end up with something like dmc5. Now that I've explained what was being implied, consider other alternatives. Maybe SOTC? MH? (Monhun already originated somewhere pretty close to where dd1 originated)
when DA2 was announced I wasn't expecting 80% of threads to just be negging and PMSing kind of a monkey's paw sure am glad /v/ isn't my only socialization in life
>>750272567I did the whole DLC with 2 sorcerers and a mageI'm a warrior naturally
>>750275267If you're not defending the position I'm directly arguing against, then why are you claiming to be 'engaging in discourse' by engaging me in an argument about it?You lying fucking retard
>be dd1 fan>hallucinate onto the game stuff that isn't therei mean the game was fine but holy fuck
>>750275307>I think there's a way to be less of a cuntYou don't deserve to be treated better>No pawns. No mediaeval open world. No climbing. No varied vocationsI will concede the pawns and vocations, but the medieval open world is generic and the climbing is copied from other games. Regardless, I'd trade all of these for a decent game with just the combat.>You end up with something like dmc5You don't, you never played DMC5 or any other action game and you don't know what you're talking about.
>>750275504Yeah the game I played didn't have climbing or an open world, idk what everyone else is talking about
>>750275380Imagine having THIS little theory of mindLeftists should be slam dunked into the concrete
>>750275604You sure should, retardStill waiting on that made up discourse by the way
>>750275553It's not about treating me better, it's about being more than a cunt. But also you want terrible things and don't think hard about them, so perhaps stay a cunt and suffer.
>>750275553>the medieval open world is generic and the climbing is copied from other gamesWhere are these other games?
>>750275692>it's uh about basic human empathy o algo uhhLmao shut up nerd
If Skyrim had DDDA's combat it'd mog the entire franchise
>>750274980I posted this before but just have a "frontier" progression system. You essentially start from the hub and venture out to explore the harsh, hostile unknown like the chaos wastes. Weather can hinder your journey like norgan. More emphasis on the camping system. Then you find areas with interesting landmarks and actual shit in it. Have some vague aura storytelling for those, fromsoftware has proven people love that shit. As you go deeper, an outpost forms so you don't have to backtrack all the way to the main hub. Then for endgame you have really long,grueling proc gen dungeons that you have to clear in the same run to finish them, so you have to prepare intensely for it. Have the dungeons be more than "goblins but brine corrupted". Have more enemy variety instead of reskins, especially in the boss department and that should cover every complaint this franchise had over the two games
>>750275757>shitposts defensively
>>750275828ewwwwwwww
>>750275828Because skyrim is highly moddableEvery minute someone has to suffer in skyrim's unaltered world or story is a minute too long
>>750274125
>>750275935EWWWW
>>750275757>o algo
Should I play the first Dragon's Dogma now that I've finished this? I'm afraid it won't live up to the hype.
>>750276106It's still a good game so why not
>>750276106Do it, it clicks after... that quest.
>>750275917>t. zoom zoomGame was great on it's own, I never do more than some vanilla+ stuffThough yeah, the reason people remember Skyrim is the modding mostly
>>750276106DD1 has charm, it's absolutely worth getting if it's going cheap. The design on the world is better, and you're familiar with the jank already since 2 still had quite a bit of that.
>>750276087>leftist pretending he didn't literally come from redditwill never not be funny
I like alternating between getting the /dbs/-tier fake cult of personality shitposters to admit they don't like anything about norgan except the combat, and making them mad by shitting on norgan for not being a big cool dungeon like bbi. Somehow it always works.
>>750276106Both vanilla dd are great and you should not skip either one
I knew kinoshita fans were cancer back in dd1da when they would have the exact same samefag mystic knight build with holy counter into magick cannon, so fucking reddit and they tantrumed non-stop since dd2 released all to do the eact same fucking build, holy counter into magic cannon, and they don't even play the games they just farm that one chimera in west gransys talking about gameplay. fucking bots. I played vanilla DD1 and remember finding soulflayer canyon and thinking that was the shit, back then no one knew chest RNG so we made that shit by hand.
>>750276256>t. zoom zoomGame was a notable step down for even bethslop
>>750276382>still would be better than dragon's dogmathe more you shit on skyrim, the better it'll make my point lol
Every dd2 thread is filled to the brim with leftists, they can't even stomach the nigger remover modIs this the fanbase for this game?
kinoshita fans have always been the dark souls 3 fans of this franchise.
>>750276465You mean the harder it reveals your dogshit taste
>>750276546If you're a tasteless jeet then probably, yeahThere's a reason this franchise was forgotten when the first game launched, and then was forgotten again when the second game launched
>>750276524Can you stop derailing, polfag
im playing final fantasy resonance now but i owe it to the itsuno to 100% the game a second time since he was sabotaged by capcom every step of the way in trying to make his dream game come true
>>750276317I pretend to hate itsuno but actually love his work and wants to gatekeep this gem of series from subhuman /v/I prefer dd1 and 2 base game over dlc lol
>>750276106I'm the odd man out I guess but there's 0 reason to play DD1 unless you LOVED dd2 and are fiending for more.dd2:da is just dd:da 2 electric boogaloo. and they did it better the second time. the second game is better mechanically in every single way. the story of dd1 is much better than the story of dd2 but the story is retarded so who cares?it's probably like 3 bucks though so not a huge loss.
>>750276615That the average cattle loved skyrim enough to keep it at the forefront of cultural consciousness doesn't help youThe only action rpg from that era that skyrim beat is kingdoms of amalur, and only because sandbox slop is fundamentally more appealing than a combat system on top of a single player mmo
>>750276660>final fantasy resonancemy brother same rn
>>750276756>implying the story of dd1 is retardedThat shit was kino nigga
>>750276106Play it and report it back to usWill be funny to see the trannies itt seething and malding when you inevitably say you prefer the first game (if you go past the ox quest anyway)
>>750276797I said the story is much better in dd1 than dd2. but with the context of dd2, the story of dd1 is now completely nonsensical. it's all fake and gay.
>>750276792It doesDragon's Dogma is so mediocre it didn't make it into the heads of anyone but sunken cost retards like you and meLiterally no one cares about this franchise
Any game you add Dragon's Dogma combat to will be a better gameConversely, any game with Dragon's Dogma combat will be better than actual Dragon's Dogma
>>750276756>they did it better the second time>the second game is better mechanically in every single wayThere is something wrong with you anon
ARPGs really entered purgatory in 2011-2013 and never left it.
Do you have to do something special to get that feather for the nigger? I am on my fifth Gagana now and have only gotten hides so far.
>>750276917He's delusional and coping>>750276936Real.
>>750276952get the bird low, start riding it.
>>750276952gagana can flee when in the arena. hop onto him.
>played the game for a week straight on release>didn't do the unmoored world on that initial playthrough because I missed it and already went to NG+ and didn't want to re-do it all>just did it now on my fresh save since the expansion dropped>manually saved before finishing the unmoored world, planned to complete it then load the manual save and start the expansion>game just forces you into NG+ and you can't load the manual saveSo uh, how's the expansion scaling in NG+ then? I'm level 66 right now. I don't mind restarting as I missed a lot of things in my current playthrough anyway but did not know finishing the unmoored just forces NG+.
Every time you see a bad take about this game, ask them what their opinion on racism is
>>750276952you have to get the birb to his last bar and like 25% health. he will start limping. thats when you jump on it and have it fly to its nest.
>>750273591Dilate
Why the fuck does this god damn tomb in battahl fuck up support pawn pathing, have fucked up no sound / some sound, and is generally god awful if you're playing caster / caster since the tank and ranged physical damage won't help?Tomb of Am'Ranna is just broken content literally.
>>750277060Neither Dragon's Dogma game has any increased enemy scaling in NG+.
>>750263679oshit
>>750276952You have to get the bird low until it wants to leave. It's very telegraphed and there is enough time to hop on. Get some stamina curatives just in case.BUT, it might be the case that only a gagana summoned from the nest will also fly. I tried going back there for the unique armor in the frozen chests, and I killed 5 gaganas and only the last one that came out flying from the nest actually fled when it was low. You can summon it again by putting another saurianigger on the fire
>>750276998>>750277024>>750277086Aw dude. I thought the temple where you fight it is its nest. More griffin than drake that little shit.
>>750276861DD2 sold millions off of pure expectation, and people here who had been talking about the first game for over a decade were as if hit by a religious miracle when the first trailer droppedYou're projecting to a ridiculous degree to a point where it stops making sense
Sorry /v/ I can't lie anymore Itsuno was a visionary
>>750277060Norgan is intended for NG+ it sucks you didn’t get the unmoored armor and weapons for fashion but you are in a good place to do it
>>750277149Oh right, I thought it did. Thank you, shouldn't be a hassle then.
>>750277137They nerfed the pawn ai after patch for performance gain
>>750277218>DD2 sold millions off of pure expectationAll of which were betrayed>and people hereSo, no oneI accept your concession
Ng+ is a bad endingReal arisen delete their saves after true ending
are the unmoored world lost rites dungeons worth it?
>>750277253>it sucks you didn’t get the unmoored armor and weapons for fashioni'll look for them on this run-through.
>>750276106Listen, I'm not a schizoanon, I love both games. But IMO, DD1 has better movement and a better sense of adventure. The quests take you to some really interesting places, like Bluemoon Tower, the Goblin Fortress, and the Catacombs. The Dragon is also so much better.DD1 has the opposite problem of DD2, though. You don't have to fight goblins every two minutes, but the base game can feel kinda barren at times, that's where the Dark Arisen dlc comes in. If the base game doesn't grab you, rush to BBI. It's probably my favorite part of the game. Exploring that big dungeon as a Mystic Knight with my Ranger pawn was so damn good.
Which leg armor and headpiece match with Savan's Armor?
>>750277378depends on your norgan status. they're best before norgan, and more of a checklist afterward.
>>750265991You can get Rovall's armor? Is there a way to find them after the credita?
>>750277345>Gives up the entire point to protect his delusionsokayGood that your mask finally slipped and you admitted what this was really about, though
>>750277378Unmoored world worth playing so yes
>>750277161And thank you, too. You are a good man.
>>750274870I started the dlc like that and I had fun until I got mugged by the snownigger and got ganked by the blackwolf while chasing him.
>>750277450>pretentious midwit reply>feminine undertoneskek
>>750277448They're lv5 relic rolls I think. Eir's and Rovall's.
Vanilla DD2 being good confuses and enrages the discord tranny
>>750277378Yeah, though they're nothing compared to some of the ones you've already doneI have no idea what the fuck kinoshitter was on about when he was talking up how long and high level these would be
>>750277414>headpieceNo.
>>750277579Thanks for the confirmation, skyrimfag
I think the only people crying for coop in Dragons Dogma are people who need phantoms in Dark Souls to beat a boss
>>750277674>He didn't play kinoshita's visionuh oh, stinky
>>750277701There are people asking for that? It's already a party based game.
>>750277683What about leg armor? The armor itself is a has a brass-colored rust and nothing matches it properly, not even Sabatons of Judgment and its golden detail.
>>750277694>you fell in my intellectual trap o algo I'm so smart
>>750277414None and its not even really his set because they made it all gold for some reasonI miss the layered armour system...
>>750277791>trapYou overestimate yourselfYou weren't tricked, you gave up all on your own completely unprompted
Can we only get tier 5 weapons within the demon portals? If so, that seems like poor design, as there's basically no point in exploring the open world at all once you reach that point. instead I think there should be a small chance of getting tier 5 in the open world as well from enemies, but only once you've reached the end-game stage.Maybe it's actually like that and I've just been really unlucky, but I've never got a T5 without starting a night cycle and hitting up the portals.
>>750277414leg armor is reaper's treads. in a lost rite dungeon. molten gauntlet i think.cape is in a lost rite dungeon. final proving ground i think.
My pawn goes full retard whenever a black dog shows up.Every night she begins damn near every battle with the light skill, but as soon as that dog appears: nothing.Bitch even says light will take care of it and then slings nothing but heals.
>>750278040place her near dog when she heals
>>750277997Oh. I got two Legend's Mantle playing base game way back and those seemed to match.
>>750277904Your impotent babble won't change the fact that time will pass and no one will remember this gameThe cult following it had learned it's lesson with the sequel and now only the lowest tier autistic retards remain
>>750277997Reaper's treads go with the chest piece you find in one of the dungeons
>>750277950>you should get an endgame weapon by just accidentally stumbling upon it in the early gameNo retard, your ideas are shit
>>750278094legend's mantle is a fake dragonslayer's mantle
>>750277950I explored the world as I did the main quest and got a lot of lv2, 3 & 4 gear along the way.>>750278040My pawn has empyrean + deific bolt but always decides to try to cast anodyne point blank against that fucking dog.
>>750278095>in time everyone will forgetsmile cause it happened bro dont cry cause its overya feel me?
>finished the DLC before completing the main quest>oneshot the dragon with sagittate blizzardoops
>>750276106you'll be confused and think DD1 is the sequel to DD2.
Should I ignore and dump every weapon without Battle Frenzy IV after I roll my first one with that?I already felt like a glass cannon with Frenzy II.
>>750263679nigga i never beat the base game now what?
>>750259493>Huh a Dragon's Dogma thread, I bet it's filled to the brim with sunken cost people going mentally insane. Good thing I didn't buy the second game haha.>Skim the thread>mfw
>>750259493Look, Arisen! A Climbing Hook would open up new avenues for exploration.
>>750278270>saddam hussein 2
>>750278241That's been the biggest issue with DD2 was it's built around just speed running to the end game/new game+ there is no satisfaction taking your time and learning the world. You just feel punished for it.
>>750277950I'm pretty sure you're supposed to be done with exploring Norgan by that point. At least I was in my playthrough.
>>750269415I only summon male beastrens, because I like my hired help being expendable.
>>750278095>um the people who liked it actually didn't because they just didn't okay>oh actually they did but they don't anymore because people stop liking things if they don't get infinite forever franchise to justify the tumblr fandom mindset that I- I mean everyone haslolHow's holding out for tes VI and ESO to be eventually good going so far, btw? You feeling properly rewarded for being a skyrim shill?
>>750277394>that webmkekI agree with this take
>>750278234you want battle frenzy iv with a blue arrow, then you're done.
>>750278393>He thinks I'm a skyrim shillgenuinely no theory of mind, ngmi
>>750277394>at times, that's where the Dark Arisen dlc comes in. If the base game doesn't grab you, rush to BBI.Don't listen to this grifter, BBI is designed for endgame gear you get after defeating Grigori and a wakestone farm in the everfall, you will just be besting your head against a wall until you stop having fun.Play the game normally and don't take any snake oil advice from autists who abuse consumable items
>>750278432>then you're donewith life
>>750278114>"but only once you've reached the end-game stage"Imagine calling others a retard when you can't even read. Retard.
>>750278269It's a good game now, I don't think it was a good game on launch
>>750278496>actively shills skyrim>not a shilllmao
>>750278549After reading this thread I'm not taking the opinions of anyone in here seriouslyYou people need to touch grass
>>750278517Seethe abd rope nigger
my only gripe with dd2da is that if you didn't play it solo then you never actually beat it.
That's it. Defeated Giganigga Satan, now all that's left is redo all the fucking main quest until Unmoored World...
>>750278571>the giga shill thinks everyone else is shilling something too>because I made a comparison meant to shit on DD I'm not a skyrimfagkek
>>750278670enjoy the sludge, I'm doing it right now and it really shows how fucking awful the main quest isJUST END IT ALL
>>750278343WhatThe majority of the base game becomes completely inaccessible in the endgame, anonIf you speedrun ng+ you get nothing but the ability to replay early content at a higher level for no reason
>>750278606>need to touch grassok now what?
>>750278672lol>>750276256
>>750278670>Giganigga Satanthe dlc balancing is so bizarre. I played fighter and mystic spearhand with t5 gear and giganigga was basically untouchable until i came back at 200 and spammed pentad bolt at him with mystic archer and took him down without using any consumables
>>750278749I think what's he saying is that >you unlock lost trials early on>you can't access most of them without empowered godsbanes>3 of them are locked behind unmoored world>since you can't access them you can't get flames which allow you to unlock new stuff in dlc Basically "forcing" you to speedrun
>>750278923He was referring to the game historically, even before the dlc
>>750278895That wasn't a good fight, but since you can take 9999 heals and wakestones to fight against him, wasn't too bad either.But a lot of ragdolling and getting thrown around with not much to do. Guess if you're a Thief you can use that safe landing core skill to get out of this situation.>>750278730Pray for me, brother. I have a score to settle with the Beholder.
>>750259886is she bald
>>750277394lmao, you gotta be extra retarded to end up like this
>>750279101i haven't taken off her panties to check.
>>750266447to me it's offscreen ghouls grabbing you outta nowhere for an instadeath wombo combo from a boss move
>>750277581Hm, I'm pretty sure you can't get Eir's armor tho
>>750279101>>750279239I did, extreme bush
is there a proper entrance to this cave? i only found two with barred gates
After a long session, I like to camp out in the evening for about 10-15 minutes. I make myself an espresso or some tea, roll a cigarette and enjoy the coziness. it's a peaceful life
>>750279383You can’t get over there till a quest or by cheating with an exploit
>>750279383you'll find it later, dont worry about it
>>750279412>I make myself an espresso or some tea, roll a cigarette and enjoy the coziness. it's a peaceful lifeTis interesting, I need to inform my arisen of that.
>ice daggers i could buy in vermud >now i cant buy them anymore on a new saveok?
>>750278749>>750278923>>750278995That's not all anons. >all your homes you buy are reset in NG+ meaning it be wasted gold>all your spoilable items including the Medusa heads get spoiled when entering the unmoored world>until the most recent updates this year trying to explore the world ahead of when the story wanted you too lead to dead ends block or empty areas until the story caught up to it to then spawn units and the like. Basically players like me that b-lined to the end to start a NG+ got heavily rewarded while most of my irl friends ditched it and only one played until the end because they like exploring and doing things outside of the games plot and story, which DD2 punishes you for. One of them bought all the homes and prided on having multiple medusa heads ready to use only to discover 40 hours in the game takes that all away from you. The first game was the flip and it was satisfying to explore the world ahead of quests and the like as you were only gated near the start and even then it didn't feel like you were getting punished for trying things. It was like DD2 wanted make people mad and attracted the most submissive loyalists.
>>750278270I really liked this mechanic even though it was very underutilized. They should bring it back in DD3 but freely useable everywhere>>750278342kek
>>750279514? you could *never* buy ice daggers in vermund.
>ice giant dropped warding hood with gigantus vim^wat? I thought only satan has a chance for vim and ^.
>>750259493 AYyyyy it's finally the fucking weekend and I can try Dark Arisen 2. It's been a thousand years and I have been awakened from my slumber!Also gawt dayum I forgot how Fashion's Dogma I left my character before quitting.And how fucking thicc my Megan Fox pawn was.
>back in Vermund with Battle Frenzy IV, just want to get Lost Trials done>4 goblins decide to go apeshit inside the capital's marketI'm searching for a drake next.>literally oneshot them
>Disa is in menopause and suicidal in UW>"She doesnt leave her room and Im worried">"Hmm theres no dialogue options, I wonder what happens when I just grab her, take her out of this room and place her in front of sven">mfw this is the intended way forward
crazy how dlc is still itsuno cut content. second dlc better add the forever tower.
>>750279589Also unlike the first game it lifted all your stones up when you started new game plus and until they added all the new ones for DA2 that fuck you up sorely in terms of having to needlessly back track everywhere again. Made upgrading items a garbage slog if you have to reset the world before hand.
>>750267445The base game was alright but I'm surprised at how Itsuno learned absolutely nothing from the first Dark Arisen, considering it was a 10/10 dungeon crawler experience and we got back to a barren as fuck open world yet again. With DA2 we got both a great open world AND great dungeons which was amazing, and I'm left wondering how spectacular a game DA3 would be if we got something of this level for a full game instead of just DLC.
>>750279897Sale for the DLC isn't that hot. I doubt we will get more.
>>750279589>wasted goldIrrelevant, by endgame even in vanilla you should have enough to buy all of them multiple times over, and they literally do not matter if the novelty of a playthrough is gone by the time you get them, let alone if inn costs disappear too>all your spoilable items including the Medusa heads get spoiled when entering the unmoored worldAll the more reason to not rush that, what fucking mythical second playthrough experience did you build up in your head that justifies only doing that when you're level 50 doing level 5 quests?>trying to explore the world ahead of when the story wanted you too lead to dead ends block or empty areas until the story caught up to it to then spawn units and the like.I don't remember this, but that again sounds like a great argument for your first playthrough to not be a speedrunAre you treating this game like it's a summer home for you to return to periodically just to ogle your collection instead of playing it?You have genuinely not actually made an argument for this
>>750280024I'd appreciate the source for that information.
>>750279870Well not really, but it's way faster than running back and forth to do the actual intended way
>>750279954>With DA2 we got both a great open world AND great dungeons I wouldn't go that far. It's a step up, but neither are anything great. The great north is very dull and samie, and the "dungeons" are just grind spots with no variations to them like in DA1.
So are you paid to make these threads?
>>750279870GRAB is the Arisen's best form of diplomacy.
>>750280047ESL or Bot?
>>750280210Yeah in Rift Crystals and Heart ratings on my pawn
>>750280163>game has nothing i like but i post in the threads anywayodd
>>750279870This whole disa side plot is a good showcase of how utterly braindead itsuno was during DD2. Everybody is a goody two shoes, nobody that has actual relevancy to the plot is a bad person. Itsuno was really afraid to commit to any writing decision and it shows
Hey guys, am I supposed to do Lost Rites first or Chilling Tidings for the DLC?
>>750280278Are you retarded? You're supposed to actually make the case for your positions, not just assume that your premise is already accepted
>>750280337why are racists deeply confused when someone reminds them there are no bad people only bad decisions
>>750280287You made a lot of assumptions. Seems like your goal is just to deflect.
>>750280384dlc out-gears everything in the base game pretty quickly, the dungeons are only worthwhile content if you completely ignore it until you finish
>>750280496Okay, so the dungeons have gear in it that'll make the DLC region too easy is what I'm hearing? So I should go do Chilling Tidings first?
>>750259493>wanna know where harpies came from?
>>750279638i swear i could buy some weird ice daggers in vermud
>Drake fell down after one Tusk toss>Riotous Fury almost instakilled itSo that's Spiralnorgan Power... not bad...
>>750280415What positions? I stated how me and my friends played the game. You got mixed up on which was which with the reply. Also what case is to be made. I was sharing how DD2 is different from DD1.
>>750279750*i have arisen from my slumber!ftfy
Why do most of these posts read like they are coming from the same person? Why does it feel like most of this thread is ESL?
Whats that overpowered warrior build again with those op rings?
>>750280337Disa is a bad person, but uh uhhh you're supposed to forgive her because she's a woman and was actually empathetic in her selfish machiavelian plotting to install a dynasty or somethingIt's like if nothing about the duke in the first game was changed at all, but a scene was tacked on to the end where he explains his grief and the princess takes pity and forgives him with you watching like he didn't try to kill you
>>750280759there's at least four builds.
>>750280549No, the dlc region will invalidate the dungeonsAnd then the postgame dungeons may also invalidate the dlc region, though if you haven't started it by then it won't let youThat makes it really funny that the period between you being able to start the dungeons and hitting the postgame is a sweetspot in the exact middle of roughly 10 minutes of main quest progress
>>750280967Postgame dungeons don't invalidate the dlc region really, norgan equipment outscales everything
>>750280582You said- in exact words- that speeding through the game is rewarded while taking your time is punishedYou attempted at length to explain why you think that with a bunch of examples that only ended up proving the opposite
>pawn keeps going through my inventory and trying to neatly organize things I hoard onto myself and distribute them evenly between myself and my pawn>brine them immediatelyI didn't ask you to bless this mess. Logistician goes straight into the trash.
I just hit Moon Tower is now the best time to do the DLC?
>post credits maingame gives new skills>but its bette to do dlc midgame>but no do it ng+......
>>750281108UW lost rites gear upgrades to be on par with or better than ancient level 5 spoilsThe loot already struggles to be relevant for most of the dlc, that just makes it even worse until you hit the end of the treadmill and stuff can start competing on what the rng traits add to your build
I can only assume nobody actually played the DLC endgame because nobody complains about the invulnerable enemies in rifts.
2 dorks in battahl, been a while since I've been in this shithole
So it's... uhhh:>Base game>Base game Endgame bullshit (that has limited days to play?)>Base game DLC trial rites dungeon gear>Actual DLC gear>Actual DLC endgame gearThat the "proper" gear progression?
>>750281321i did plenty of rifts but haven't come across any invuln enemies
>>750280759ring of reversal + ring of benediction or inversion work on all classes
>>750280759Ring of Reversal and Ring of Benevolence to drain your HP but heal when hit by enemies, and regen when at low health.Then boost your health with armor special skills to account for fighting at below 25% HP. Some environmental effects that aren't direct enemy attacks still harm you, so watch out.Or Ring of Inversion + armor with Gigantus Vim for massive max HP. Add a Benevolence Ring to regen a big chunk of that HP to brute force your way through everything.
>>750281321I spammed rifts so much I maxed out my level and I didn't encounter any invulnerable enemies.
>>750280549>>750280967>>750281108>>750281292You guys are giving me mixed messages here. But I just realized I left my profile in NG+ at the beginning of the game anyway so apparently I wouldn't be able to access a lot of the Lost Rites dungeons anyway without the Empowered Godsbane. So I guess I'll go do the first tutorial Lost Rites dungeon and head to the DLC region.
Which thong bottoms gives your Pawns a great ass?
>>750281381>>750281381No matter what you're gonna fuck up some part of something, it's kind of a clusterfuckAnyway the intention seems to be that it's for people who are already on ng+ anyway, the godsbane blade is basically the only quest item that actually carries over
>>750281458>>750281431The gigantus build hats it
>>750281652>>750281560
>>750276680>>750276660Based and itsunopilled.
>>750281381>Base game>Base game end game>DLC campaign>Base game upgraded post game gear>DLC post game gear
>>750281791>>750281381AKSUALLY its>base game up until godsbane item>dlc all of it>base endgame
>>750281705>>750281652>>750281560Oh wait, I found the Empowered Godsbane in my pockets. Nice. Alright, I'm off then.
>>750281831tis an empowered godsbane in your pocket or are you happy to see me arisen?
>>750281381>Endgame bullshit (that has limited days to play?)pretty sure they removed the gimmick
chat you still up? im booting the game rn and dont you assholes leave me here
>>750281969No its still 12 sleepies in red world but you can sleep infinitely in DLC area and it wont advance the unmoored world ting
Hard to see here but when I move my camera my pawn's name gets all ghosty and hard to read. I have dlss frame gen turned on but I thought the ghostbuster plugin would fix that, anyone else have this issue?
>>750281321i only got the undead dragon who glitched out at 1hp twice, idk if that’s what you mean
>>750265930play Magic Archer, you can rez from a distance (and everyone at once) and the maester skill from Norgan is a holy weapon buff which is probably the best for the dlc, (the same skill that holy buffs the pawns is also your highest damage skill)
my wife had a sister?
Whenever I have to get through Batahl I just run. None of the encounters are fun, the Griffin will ACTIVELY try to leave instead of fight you, Drakes are too spread out and don't actively hunt for you or crash into you like they do in Vermund. Harpies, Wolves and Ghosts having the AI to actively kite you/run away from you is very, very, very much not fun. Enemies should be running up to you to die not forcing you to chase them while they're juuuust out of reach. Immensely frustrating area to get through. None of the experience is worth it. Goblins and then more goblins followed by goblins and wolves. Like get me out of here.
>>750282020i have that problem with subtitles over characters
>>750281791>>750281826I want to think that either they were made by separate teams that didn't communicate much, or kinoshita was still in the mindset of an MMO dev and this shit wasn't developed at the same timeLost rites feels like an early MMO expansion that lost relevance after another expansion raised the level cap and introduced a higher level endgame, except they were released at the same time
>>750282003what if you never sleep?
>>750282121>Drakes crash into youWhere does this happen, none of the drake fights are in any way dynamic. They are all just placed in specific spots on the map
>>750282020framegen preset B and you need base fps to be high enough for it not to look wonky
>>750282020>my pawn's name gets all ghosty and hard to read.99% it's frame gen. It usually struggles the most with ui
>>750270279>but even then, it's always the same pawn?You control the buttons you press. My pawn was pale white woman for my first run and now she's a chocolate brown. Make your pawn look like what you want it to look like instead of using your lack of imagination to dunk on others.>Majority of pawns are femaleWow it's almost like the majority of gamers are males between the ages of 10 and 49.
>>750281191If you have the quest to go to the moon tower, here's what I'd suggest:1) Go do all the lost rites dungeons you can, there's 9 total2) Start the DLC and go to Norgan3) AFTER you get to Norgan, go back to the moon tower and complete it to get to the Unmoored World4) Complete the Unmoored World content (evacuation quests, red pillar bosses) but do not touch the final pillar once it spawn in the Seafloor Shrine (this will end the game)5) Go complete the 3 Unmoored World Lost Rites dungeons6) Then go back to Norgan and do all the shit up there7) Once you are totally finished with Norgan and your playthrough, go end the game at the Seafloor Shrine
>>750282020Change the frame-gen preset to B if you aren't using that already, it will help alleviate the HUD artifacting a bit but the titles above the heads will still shimmer/shake a bit when moving the camera quickly.
>>750282309Well...
>>750282442NTA but what if i wanted to be OP come endgame
>>750282497Norgan gear will make you retarded OP and make Unmoored World a joke.
>>750282054Can happen to any enemy but yeah. happened to me on black dogs twice and dragon once.
>>750267445Base DD2 simply was too easy to shine like it needed to, while also having it's variety spread too thin throughout the experience. Norgan being harder at baseline, while also giving you a steady stream of new monsters and making it easy and frequent to encounter new monsters elevates the experience.
>>750282325I've had Drakes and Griffins pursue me in the overworld in Vermund. Like I hear their giant wings and can sometimes make out a shadow. I've seen Drakes slowly flying over to molest Oxcarts as well so I know it isn't just me. >>750282497>what if i wanted to be OPNorgan won't let you be anything else. You will be embarrassing the final boss and then actively seeking him to bully the goat by the horns. You're fine. Now go out there and catch me a sinner.
>>750282354>>750282447>framegen preset Bhow? i'm using DLSS enabler with optiscalerShould I just use my own nvdia overlay instead?
>>750281826So when do I do the lost rites stuff that's in base game? I've been able to walk into a couple but ignored them because I'm a Hard Mode chad and I assumed they were for gearing up to go into the DLC.
>>750282610>i'm using DLSS enabler with optiscalerWhy? The game supports it natively. You can change the frame-gen preset either through NVPI Revamped or by installing MFG-Unlocker which lets you change it on the fly.
>>750282569>I've seen Drakes slowly flying over to molest Oxcarts as wellI've never seen a drake even remotely close to an oxcart and I had 300 hours played before the dlc. Griffins sure but not drakes.
>>750282638The ones in vernworth are doable with base game gear even on hardmode. In battahl you pretty much require end game dragonforged gear to even scratch any enemies,
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>>750282882The only hard pre-unmoored world lost rites are the five-floor fuckfest with the dullahan at the end, and the watery one with the beholder at the end.
>speedrun the game to reach UW and finish Lost Rites>spend more time at the Talos """fight""" than most quests up until and after this point>turns out it's absolutely scripted no matter how you fuck its weakpoints.
>>750283235it's scripted but there are multiple points it can die depending on how well you doif you take out all the pegs before it reaches the volcanic island camp it keeps both of it's arms, which gives you an extra cutscene in unmoored where it fights a brine dragonif you're too late then it loses an arm first as it goes past the volcanic checkpointand if you fuck up tremendously then it dies at the lava lake near the excavation camp
>>750283235>never met the zesty nigga in Battahl>he never shows up at Moonglint Tower>my beloved is Ilda from the DLC
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>>750283623It can still fight the brine dragon with one arm.
>>750283802you're thinking of the brine monster and yes, but if it keeps both of it's arms it gets another cutscene where he fights a dragon/drake like thing first and loses it's arm in the process (probably so they can reuse the same animation for the brine monster in both scenarios)
