mfw my boyfriend kills me and everyone i know and destroys my entire world because he's hecking sadderino and prefers suicide to hanging out with his little sister anymore
Why is she covered in shit?
>>750265381>boyfriend
>>750265246but he says we can trust him this time, maybe we can give him a 4th chance
Why was she barefoot for the whole game?
>>750265246>i don't want to hang out with my little sister anymore...>i don't want to hang out with my little sister anymore...
>>750265381brony OP got to her.
>>750265246Maelle is the correct choice. Let Verso suffer for just a little longer.
>>750265470she's barefoot for an amazing reason
>>750266104Yeah, just give verso front row tickets to Alicia's suicide.That is definitely the correct choice.
Every single screenshot I've seen of this game is a closeup of a character's dirty face with an absent fluoride stare.
>>750265470She channels spiritual energy through her hands and feet. Typical anime “My powers only work when I’m naked!” BS.
>>750266185schizo headcanoon>>750266104thise33-era people are painter lady's best creation. Verso should shut the fuck up and allow them chill a while longer. They deserve as much
>>750266207It make sense when you understand the context of it. Seeing Lune give up and take a seat was fucking devastating.
ENTER: CHADGODSOVEREIGNKINGSOLITTLE SISTER STATUS? ALIVE AND WELL!MOTHER STATUS? ALIVE AND WELL!FATHER STATUS? PROUD OF ME!BIG SISTER STATUS? PROUD OF ME!FAMILY STATUS? HEALING AND UNITED!WHAT'S A LITTLE SACRIFICE FOR FAMILY?HELL, HE'LL DO IT ALL OVER AGAIN FOR HIS FAMILY!
figments of imagination are not realI just imagined that OP was not gay
>>750267338>figments of imagination are not realBut the people in the painting are real.
>>750266352>schizo headcanoonYou keep verso aliveClose to AliciaAs she kills herselfBecause of him That is the canon of her ending
Cypher (and, by the same virtue, Maelle) is right.
>>750265246Because he's white she'd forgive him, Asian girls are like thatt. korean dude
>>750267458Do they have real feelings or are they programs designed to simulate having feelings? The paintings are just Holodecks with slightly higher stakes.
>>750266104Maelle fags unironically endorse child slavery. Let that sink in
>>750267645They are actual people, not AI.
>>750266668That's convenient. Apparently it only makes sense if you sink your cost into playing the game. Why don't you just fucking tell us instead?
>>750267458You have a weird definition of realThey are fictious literally in the logic of the GAME ITSELF
>>750266207get a better monitor so you dont see your reflection constantly
>>750265246bruhlookit this doooood
>>750267728I'm not going to sit here and type out who Lune is and her backstory. Play the fucking game.
>>750265246That's bcs he isn't even real but a fake Indian poser. The real Verso is the kid painting. When he reveals that he could have saved Gustave but didn't they should have shanked him in his sleep
I liked E33's story but I really wish it stayed straightforward and was just about niggas about to die being sent off to fight against a giant witch monster who was killing them every year. I'm just a brainlet and thought the intro and first chapter were cool.
>>750267924The story is supposed to be a metaphor for video games and the people who play them. It’s not healthy to spend all your time in fictional worlds, even if the real one is terrible.
"Once upon a time there was a little girl called MaryOne day woke up hungry and went to the grocery store to buy some sandwiches.Getting back home, she happily enjoyed her sandiwches and was hungry no more."Does Mary have agency?Was Mary actually hungry?Were her sandwiches real?
>>750265246Technically he wasn't her boyfriend but the boyfriend of the dead women she was cloned from.If you are going to hold the idea that painted people lives matter then you have to say death means something and they are too valuable be replaced with facsimiles.
>>750267924stick to cod
>>750267586This. The notion whether or not something is "real" becomes irrelevant at a certain point of verisimilitude to what is accepted as "reality". If your senses cannot tell the difference, it might as well be "real".The painted people were "real" in every aspect that one might wish to test.
Verso is the biggest piece of shit.
sorry esquie, im going to kill you because im le tired
>dude just go back home where you can't talk and you're heavily disfigured and your only relationships are with your dysfunctional family Just play the fucking piano
>>750268632>le tiredAHHHHH THE MEMORIES
>>750268636except she still is those things but also now forever lost in her headbasically death
>interracial coupleopinion discarded
Verso’s drafts might be one of the best levels in the game, it’s nice to see the painting the way it was intended to be
https://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=13643473
>>750265246Why do modern AAA devs obsessively smear dirt and blood on their characters' faces all the time?
>>750268126>playing vidya is bad>but making vidya is my life's workretarded stance
>>750267728Lune is the character most committed to saving her world. Multiple times other characters give up because they're broken by grief or whatever and she's the one always dragging them along and getting them to focus on the mission because the mission >>>>>>>> your feelings and part of the oath they all swore was to keep going as long as they're alive, stick to the mission even if everyone else is dead, as long as even one of them is standing the mission goes on etc etc Lune is the one personifying all of that. The catch is the world was painted onto a canvas by magic painters from the real world and one ending has Verso, supposedly kind of her teammate and potential love interest destroy the entire world for perfectly good reasons so Lune is stuck outside a magic portal watching this happen so she sits down giving him a death stare all the way as everything ends. It's her way of saying yeah, this is the point where there's literally nothing else I or anyone else can do but judge you silently.
>>750267548>As she kills herselfthis is the part your tard brain made upaline and renoir were in the canvas for 70 years and were fine
>>750267924And Halo should just have been about space marines killing aliens. No zombies, religious schisms or crazy robots
>>750269012it's a /tv/ meme.>ugh, le deep...
>>750269005fuuuuuuuuuck...
>>750265246I romanced Sciel, who was actually pretty chill with being gommaged TWICEIf Lune wanted to live maybe she shouldn't have been such a fucking PRUDE
>>750269065nta but come on it is spelled out for you that she will die in there, rewatch how she lies to Renoir and Verso later calls her out on it and she never denies it
>>750268795Oh no, she gets to experience a happy life free of the ailments that plague her physical body, surrounded by people she enjoys the company of, but I guess that doesn't matter because it's not REAL™!
>>750265470she charges through the floor
>>750267458if they were real they wouldn't just turn into flowers when they die
>>750269030there's even more to it than that actually
>>750269160Just desperately trying to insist that their imaginative life is so goodYou can stay with anime girlfriends while I fuck actual bitches
>>750269005>umm sweaty we cant show you videos without cookie consentLMAO modern webdev is a complete fucking joke, i'll just grab the direct link then faggotshttps://nymp4.rule34.xxx//images/565/f2ba00a490828a68a49e1a63a18a2740.mp4
>>750269150>renoir can't just go back in again and yank her out again
>>750269160>but mooooooom I wanna play video games all day, I don't want to go to school where my retarded ass gets bullied.. MOOOOOMM!! REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>750269234Yes but anon wanted the basic idea of it
>>750269160Miserable people see someone living a happy life and just start seething. They cant accept that living a full happy life in the painting is better than being part of some fucktard family outside.
Clair Obscur ending is basically that >would you kill yourself if it let you isekai
>>750269306He can't because he tried that and got kicked out, it would be like that until she died.
>it's totally fine to end the lives of sentient beings you created because you're sad
>why doesn't somebody think of the paintings.That's why you can't trust the "it's just a drawing, bro"s
>>750269281Anon, in this case it is literally the matrix conundrum all over again. If something is indistinguishable from reality, does it matter (from an experiential point of view) whether or not it is real?
>>750269427She's happy the way an addict is happy. I think it's also on purpose that the npcs in that ending all look like a cheap cut and paste job compared to the intro scenes.
>>750269470he didn't get kicked out, he decided to trust alicia and left willinglydid you even play the game?
>>750268873Amazing how they actually kept working on a free dlc filled with cool stuff.Verso's drafts is super neat and slightly bittersweet, and osquio is an amazing dlc boss
>>750269472fucking hell bro
>>750265246If only there was a different ending for those that were actually committed to saving the world... oh wait.
>>750269510DO YOU EVEN REMEMBER HOW MATRIX 3 ENDS??PEOPLE WANT AND DID LEAVE THE MATRIX IF THEY WANTED SOMETHING MORE THAN JUST THE ILLUSION
>>750269510Nta but it's the part where it's only real as long as one suffering remnant of a child's soul is working on it. Also how she's clearly losing her mind being in denial that she's torturing (both) Verso(s) instead of at least making her own painting to die in.
>>750269149Sciel and versi simply had more chemistry together.Both had past lovers they were hung up on.Terrible issues.Accepted death.Sciel would never give verso shit because she got him, unlike lune
>>750269554You clearly didn't because he only did that after he fought her and lost and was getting kicked out anyway.
>>750269472she wasn't sad/depressed about any of it though, she's just a mentally deranged child murderer
>>750269746>he skips the dialogue scenesgrim
>>750269670Verso is clearly aging in her ending so they will live the life together that they lost and then she will move on. It's like a couple of days in the real world.
>>750265246He won. You lost.
>>750269642Yeah, and they emerged into a "life" of hiding in underground bunkers, eating slop. But at least it's REAL™ slop, right?
>>750269472holy shit
>>750269876It is infinitely more valuable because it is actually real
>>750269472the permanence of death is what gives it meaning. the painted people can always be brought back.
>>750269832Did you seriously miss the part where he's in denial and wanting to believe her because the alternative is horrifying? That whole scene only happens because back when he could fight her for it he did just that because he knew he couldn't trust her.
>>750269923How do you define real? If you're talking about what you can feel, what you can smell, what you can taste and see, then real is simply electrical signals interpreted by your brain.
>>750269923>A hell is preferable to a utopia because the hell purports to be the one true reality, without any actual evidence to truly back it up
>>750269841Verso is clearly in pain the whole way and she gives zero fucks. She is doing this for herself and will never choose to go out of it, this is pretty blatantly shown with even helpful scary musical cues for people who didn't realize that.
>>750269981>did you seriously miss my tard interpretation that i am unable to distinguish from what is actually in the game?yeah, fraid so, little fella
>>750269472Yes?
fag33 is a shit game
>>750269923>it is actually realverso's tombstone in the "real" world says he died on the 33rd of december
>too naive to realize the evil in their own deeds and delusionswould be an accurate depiction of Maelleturds
>>750269974>The permanence of death
>you're supposed to condemn these fictional people to death because they're just made up and escapism bad, ok?>the dessendres are just as fictional and there is no reason to care about them any more than about lumiere? noooooo actually fictional people matter!!!
>>750270274and?
>>750270101>the teenage girl will never get bored and do something else>she'll always find fulfillment in the things she was obsessed with when she was 16, literally for her entire life foreverversofags are not intelligent people
All life is a magnificent illusion
>>750269472uhhh... verso bros, our response?
>>750270362I'd argue it is much more evil to force someone to exist in a state of brokenness if they could experience a normal life. Note that I said experience, not live, because I know you're going to be a stickler about it.
>>750270081This is actually a trap by you because this is trying to appeal to vividness.The end point is being tricked into thinking that VR is real if the tech progresses far enough to fool you. And the same way anyone could point at an idiot thinking things they see on the telly are real, I would point at you the same way and say you are an idiot.
>>750270530>I'd argue it is much more evil to force someone to exist in a state of brokenness if they could experience a normal life.All while forcing someone else you exist in a state of emotional brokenness while being puppeteered.
>>750270420Not only is there no reason to care about the Dessendres, they give plenty of reason to actively dislike them.>See this dysfunctional family of snobby nobles with god-like powers, struggling with issues that are almost exclusively self-inflicted? Don't you feel bad for them?
>>750270465Man, I get people liking Maelle's ending over Verso's but arguing that she isn't going to die in there is pure denial.
>>750270601But he isn't real
>>750270590(the "real" world is a video game, you dumb fuck)
>>750270081That it won't stop existing if a sad kid stops painting.
>>750270674nothing in the game suggests she'll die in there
>>750270789Renoir told her she would so there is that.
>>750270590It's not about vividness, but experience. Cypher put it succinctly in the original Matrix. If you have a piece of steak that is juicy, smells divine and tastes amazing once you put it in your mouth, it doesn't matter if it is "real" or not, you are still experiencing everything involved in the consumption of a "real" steak. And if that is true, what value is there in the "real" steak over the "false" one?
>>750270789she lies to renoir that she'll get out someday, you can't make it any more obvious that she was lying and renoir suspected she was lying
>>750270909Have sex, make children, change the physical world.
>>750265246as a little sister owner I feel him
>>750267924This is true. The twist undermined the setting too hard.
>>750269472Damn...Verso simps???
>>750270961What for? MUST we leave a legacy? MUST we make an impact? Is it not ok to seek safety? To nest?
>>750271156YesEven against your own will if you have toBetter men will order you if you are not capable of
omg, maelle you're a monster for killing my sister that I was going to kill anyways!! aAHHHHH
>>750271234Nah, I'm going to keep being comfy and stress-free until I croak, and you cannot do anything about it.
>>750269642Good thing that´s the cut point too because they would have had a terrible time trying to explain how that was a terrible idea and couldn´t possibly have worked. Zion didn´t have neither the infrastructure nor the resources to take in all those people. All they had to eat was that shit tier protein goo and they would have needed to ration it in order to distribute it evenly, not enough room so houses would have had to be shared and births restricted, not enough water refinement stations to have enough drinkable water nor a sewer system capable of disposing of the extra waste so the whole city would smell even more like shit.It would have been an administrative nightmare. Not to mention they would get tons of riots because, let´s be real here, given those conditions 98% of the released would agree with Cypher. The movies explain that the ones freed are the 1% most likely to accept reality and even among those there are people like Cypher who can´t or won´t. Imagine getting tons of the others at the same time. Not to mention the machines still need the humans so a compromise should be negotiated. Some people would have to stay regardless of their desires. That discussion alone could reignite the war in 3 seconds flat.
>>750270961Can’t you do that in the fake world?
>>750271691They will never leave the fake world
>>750271742But neither will you
>>750271768and that is the sad part innit
>>750271787>It's sad to be a god in a world you can mould to your likingWhatever you say, bucko
>>750265246YOUR boyfriend?more like OUR boyfriend
>>750269427>>750269160i too am so happy for people addicted to fentanyl and trying to help them with their addiction is torture
>>750265246>boyfriendNot in my playthrough. Not romancing roasties.
>>750272185Ah yes, the classic "compare real-life substance abuse to literal magic" argument.
>>750265470
>>750267306ThisIt's literally only troons who pick the maelle ending. She's there pretending her brother isn't dead and that she's not a deep fried nugget. Just like the players think themselves a woman and that everybody validates them
>>750269160She can paint something else anytime she wants>>750269345Kek
>>750272018I don't think she wants a relationship with Verso
>>750269573>>750268873It kind of is. I found it curious how "realistic" everything was despite shit being painted by a literal kid. It is when you understand that the mother painted over everything when you understand why there are random train stations in the middle of nowhere and why there are carousel in the middle of a frozen plain when you understand that verso's painting was absolutely destroyed long before the fracture that threw the city into the sea.By the time you play the game it wasn't verso's painting, it was aline's grieving paint destroying everything his son once was.She killed her son as much as the fire or verso did with that bullshit of turning it realistic, making an entire city with people in it when in reality it likely had candy, colors and gestrals only.
>>750273432>>750272018What a lack of dick does to a fatherfucker...
>>750273486Also anyone noticed the areas that seem most out of place and more verso like, the gestral village, monoco station, esquie nest, the gestral river and other similar all were surrounded by mountains as if they were protecting those areas.
>>750265381my shit
>>750265381She had a shitty evening
>>750265381Indian mythology
>>750272449yes, it's called analogy.
>>750267924Same but it unfortunately would've had ZERO discussion if that were the case. Making the ending such a split decision was done on purpose to have people talk about it forever
>>750269472there's literally no argument against this comparisonthis is your hero, verso fags
>>750269472>argument ender
>>750274458I want to disagree but apparently people still argue about it. It's extremely embarrassing that there is anything to "discuss". If your head is on straight it's Verso's ending. If you're mentally ill + projecting yourself into the work instead of taking the story as it is presented, you go with Maelle
>>750269472too soon...
What's the good enough Lumina Points to finish the game? I only need to beat simon, purple esquie, and superbosses in the endless tower. I have 150 points exact on each with around 100ish extra colours of lumina.