My beloved...
>>750286474>blocks two RAM slotsnice design, faggot
>>750286474Materialistic scum
stock cpu fan14 years old setupnever touched the thermal paste
>>750286474Brokie
I'll never get why everyone thinks water cooling looks better than this. I love big blocky shit
>>750286474>>750286659Good shit but just like modern gpus they cause sag and a grizzly bracket nullifies them to hell.
>>750286552it doesnt
Why do people like these giant heatsinks, does the size really matter? because the rate of heat transfer is going to be the same and the only important factor is how much of the surface is actually exposed to air?Has anyone done any actual experiments to show the temperature difference between different heatsinks?
>>750287069> does the size really matter?Yes?Bigger sizes means better heat dissipation so the fans can run at lower RPM.I literally don't even hear my CPU cooler, it runs so slowly.Meanwhile a boxed cooler will scream like a jet engine.
>>750287069Yes little bro surface area increases with size.
>>750286852>they cause sagthey don´t> grizzly bracket nullifies them to hellwhat do you mean?
>>750287069>Has anyone done any actual experiments to show the temperature difference between different heatsinks?No, you are definitely the first person in the world to think about doing that. No one has ever done that in the entire history of computers existing, and there's definitely not a bunch of people who have made careers out of testing things like that.
>>750287327but you can increase the surface area without increasing the size
sovl
>>750287198my stock cpu fan doesn't make noise unless running like prime95 torture mode and even then i wouldn't call it jet engine
>>750287656because you have a weak cpu
>>750287640>liquid cooling>makes women dry
>>750287620
>>750286474I had to get one after a very old AIO I was using died. When I next do an upgrade i'll be spending so much on the platform i'll get a D15 most likely just because it will be such a small fraction of the overall budget.
>>750286552>buying anything but LPX ramsorry rabbi, i dont pay the dumb goy tax
Is it enough to cool a 9800x3D?
>>750287770Makes everything around it dry, judging by the size.
>>750288313yes
>>750287640Watercooling is a big fat meme.Constant maintence, risk if rupture and very minimal gain over a fat heatsink with air cooling.
>>750288651yeah but bro WATER COOLING
For me it's
>>750288651get a liquid freezer 3 for 80 bucks and it rapes every air cooler
post temps
>>750288721until it rapes your mainboard with a short
>>750286474It just werks. AIOs are such a meme, though they do look kinda nice but I only peek inside my case once a year. I grew out of my ricer phase 20 years ago.
>>750288721i fell for this shit and the pump died in under 2 years, never going back to AIOs
>>750288718Back then this thing's price was almost double the peerless assassin. Ridiculous really.
>>750286552protip: you don't need the fan that covers the RAM
>>750288147based
>>750286474it sounds like shit in the 50% range
>>750288825I think I got it for ~45 bucks, before the Peerless Assassin existed. For that price it's really solid.
>>750289036I believe they had similar pricing in the US but not in Europe where the Scythe was more expensive.
>>750289114I'm in Europe and it was under 50 back in 2019 but seems to have slowly climbed up from there.Can't go wrong with either Scythe or Thermalright though, I've used and recommended both.
>>750287069Tiny heatsink = fan spins at 10000000 RPMHUGE heatsink = fan spins at under 1000 RPMSimple as.
>>750287640I will never understand people who put liquid in their electronics.
>>750286552Fan can be moved up and the heatsink clearly comes with ram clearance, as you could've seen on the image if you paid more attention.
>>750287620You're gonna put an iron cube on the CPU?
>>750288721NH-D15 still stands as the best cooler, even including your meme water coolers.
Reminder that if your cpu isn't pulling roughly 180w or more the air vs water debate is meaningless within an ATX form factor.
>>750288825it came out before the peerless assassin. When it released the appeal was near-nhd15 performance for half the price.
How can these heavy metal blocks not fuck over the motherboard with the weight
I just use an AIO Yes I have all the lights set to babby blue its my favorite color. I set it to #FA8072 during summer
>>750290759The motherboard is also a heavy metal block.
>>750289763>NH-D15 still stands as the best cooler, even including your meme water coolers.
>>750290759By not being heavy It's aluminium
>>750286552it's better to have just 2 slots occupied anyway since it's a lot easier to overclock 2 sticks compared to 4. but even older dh14 without the cutout doesn't block the slots unless you have some giant meme heatsinks on the RAM they clear it.
>>750289763NH-D series is fucking great, I used the D14 for the past 15 years before I swapped to a peerless assassin se just to downsize, might put it back in use if I ever upgrade my cpu in my current build.
>>750290759You're supposed to screw the motherboard into all of the mounting posts instead of skimping and doing like three.
>>750286474No room for the ram heatsink you dumb fuck
>>750291237You're the dumb fuck. You can rise or lower the front fan and fit any type of RAM.
>>750290843>>750288718>>750286963>>750286659>>750286474Objectively, there's any point to buying those monsters over my Noctua-U12S ??
>>750291319you don't even have to raise it most of the time, it has a ridge under it allowing clearance for all but the most retardedly shaped ram heatsinks
>>750286552>blocks two RGB RAM slotsyou're gay if you own that shit
>>750286474I have that Ryzen Wraith cooler for my 5800x3d. I never have cooling problems with it and it looks much better than a tower cooler.
>>750286623Older CPUs are designed with that in mind. Overclocking is a bonus if you bother to maintain fresh thermal paste and having good CPU cooling.Modern CPU, on other hand, requiring the user to go out of the way to cap the TDP in BIOS. Otherwise the CPU will overclock OOTB.
>>750291437>ObjectivelyWell, yes. But it depends entirely on what CPU you have and what you use it for. If you for example have a 9850X3D or a 14900K and you do any kind of prolonged productivity stuff then you basically NEED one.
>>750290843>has to pick a specific old video to win>gets raped by newer testings made by the same guysAir coolers still the best.
>>750291695Ignorance is bliss.Your CPU is throttling under stress. Luckily you can simply ignore it.
>>750291741here's a better one
>>750286474put ram input fan oneasy
>>750291826NTA but AIOs just are not worth the risk of leakage when an air cooler does the job with every cpu
>>750286552I deliberately bought slower DDR5-6000 CL36 RAM just to avoid this specific problem.
>>750290759I don't know when the last time you built a computer is, but the heat sink screws are attached through the motherboard to a backplate underneath.
>water cooling>low chance of leaking>benifit is slightly cooler cpuhaving a chance of leak is not worth it im my opinion
>>750292323Everyone has their own priorities. I use ceramic thermal paste even though it's really bad for cooling because I don't want to change my paste lmao.
>>750292323Wait until we get pumpless thermalsiphons
Remember if you let your cpu go above 65c for sustained periods you are actively shortening its lifespan.
>>750293105Yeah good luck stopping that with the fucking tiny ass chiplets that modern Ryzen CPUs use.
>>750293105Not meaningfully enough for it to matter at all.
>>750293105Anon, the PS5 chip runs at 90ºc and those are still alive.
>>750288651That is from the early 2000s before AIOs and dual tower style Noctua's, when pic related was the norm. Watercooling was still a hobbyist kit builder thing.
>5090>9800x3D>cooled by a 20$ thermalright phantom something (only one fan) in a mere 4000d airflowMom's gonna freak
>>750286474shit i forgot i bought some thermal paste thank you anon
>not having a 360 AIO that has a 120mm fan just for vrm coolingngmi
>>750293745>>750292323
my aio is 420mmno seriously
>>750293745> that chromatic aberration around the lettersAre you using a BGR screen?
>>750294517¯\(°_o)/¯
>>750294239Are there any cases that can even fit that
>>750295576Plenty. I think every case that support eATX boards has enough room for a 420mm.
>>750293312based
>>750296185Holy sovl
>>750286474>switch to a 360mm AIO(pic related)>didn't like looking at a massive block of aluminum sitting on the middle of the motherboard>runs my CPU very cool alongside MX-7 thermal paste>never look back
>>750288147sovless>>750296185sovlAutistic cable management and making everything monotone is a sure way to make it lifeless.
>>750288651Went from watercooling back to air. Honestly leaks were never the issue, it was always those so called "industrial grade" D5 pumps that are a fucking dice roll with bearings that could shit themselves within two years.
>>750296896>didn't like looking at a massive block of aluminum sitting on the middle of the motherboardWhy are you looking at your motherboard? You should be looking at a monitor.
>>750286474That budget cooler is probably the most performant thing in your shit rig.
>>750291437No, just get proper case and fans for it
>>750297350I don't have sidle glass panel like a broccoli head, I just didn't like the idea of the heavy aluminum block pulling down on the motherboard.
>>750287069>Has anyone done any actual experiments to show the temperature difference between different heatsinks?Do you think that no companies that make them have consulted an engineer regarding the designs?
>>750297669How are you looking at your motherboard if you aren't even looking at your motherboard?
>>750298034>install parts>think "hmm, don't like the look of that"It's pretty fuckin simple
just get a Peerless Assassin for like 30 bucks and never think about cooling again
>>750298768bro your argb?
>>750287069The biggest no-fan passive heatsinks are only capable of handling about 65 watts. Smaller no fan, passive heatsinks can do perhaps 45.The smallest not even 25.
>>750286552low IQ brown hands typed this
>>750299141hey Le Grand Macho claimed 95w passive (and like 300 if you slapped a fan on it).
>>750298768i have a peerless ass ass in. the installation with the screws was penis until you figured out you needed to fit both screw holes as good as possible and push down in the middle while screwing baby turns on each side. fucking stupid
I was looking into upgrading, and I can't believe the entire consumer base has been fooled into paying more for empty space. It has become the norm to have no space for a lot of HDs for the sake of "airflow" (aka a big case full of nothing). I'm just going to reuse my current case for the new parts I get.
>>750299509>what are dual chamber casesPro tip, this pc >>750288147 has 7 storage drives in it and a DVD drive.
>>750298768This
>>750298768No point in that when Phantom Spirit exists.
>>750298968>argb
>>750298968You have to be 18 >>750299430Two left hands? Skill issue.>>750300017This>>750300349Thermalright has 100 "different" coolers that are all the same under a different name. It doesn't fucking matter.
>>750300441>Thermalright has 100 "different" coolers that are all the same under a different name. It doesn't fucking matter.It does in this case because it has 7 tubes instead of 6.
>>750286659they look ugly as shitmy phantom spirit 120 SE has some cool RGB strips
>>750286659didnt fit my case
>>750300502My case is solid black with no windows, you DISGUST meI SPIT on you, you are like women.
>>750300493I know. You're technically right that it's better. But it doesn't matter. Get the one that is cheaper.
>>750286763i like how the tubing looks
>>750286659>>750300502They come in black now but that's soulless.
>>750300610The price difference is less than 5€ on amazon at the moment.
>>750300428I am fighting for my THERMAL RIGHTS and so should YOU!
>>750300668It doesn't matter. Not even reviewers will make out a difference that is over error tolerance.
>>750300610why are you a poorfag anon?
>>750300779For every 5 bucks saved I can have another night with your mom.
I like the versions that cover the tubes. More aesthetic.
>>750288313no issues. temp does go high when compiling shaders
>>750300816my mom is like 75 anon
>>750299250Eh, when I talk about passive cooling I consider a sensible CPU temperature limit perhaps 65-70C, not running it at the "rated maximum."Especially so with the times we live in, some people might have built the last decently affordable home computer for a very long time.Yes a big dual tower can do 80, 85 watts? with no fan, but your CPU would be cooking at 90C or more.
>>750300945There is literally nothing wrong in running a CPU at 95ºC. That's exactly what laptops do.
>>750301021oh my bad I assume a gamer is controlling their clock speeds and voltages to get the best of their system, not leaving 15-20% performance on the table
>>750298768>>750299430oh wait nevermind, i was gonna by the peerless assassin but i ended up with a Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 SE cause it was on sale for $35
>>750301021Entropy.The law of entropy is all things degrade over time.Temperature determines the rate.A 95C CPU chip isn't lasting as long.It's why AMD's claim of Zen 4/5 "just does that and it's good" is total bullshit
>>750301231Oh no it's only going to last 200 years instead if 300
>>750291237Ram doesn't use heatsink you fucking mongoloid stop throwing daddy's money to the trash
>>750301312It's more like 95C is a 10-12 year life, for default non boost rated speeds and voltages.Past that the chip is degraded.Note I said.Non boost, base clock. And the lowest voltage for that clock.I don't even know why I'm arguing with you, you clearly know fucking nothing.It helps nothing to post these link cus you won't understand any of it, but here's some reading. Do note the Texas Instrument paper uses a voltage of 0.7 instead of the 1.2-1.4 chips normally use.https://www.ti.com/lit/an/sprabx4c/sprabx4c.pdf?ts=1792890185273https://books.google.com/books?id=8kSjBQAAQBAJ&pg=PA60&lpg=PA60&ots=_N3o_cCQLw&sig=UQtK55e5B8FpTmfcrelJ7A4KVg8&hl=en#v=onepage&q&f=falseBut hey when your system breaks and this new world AI order shit means you can only afford a cloud subscription, enjoy the memories. My shit will still be running.
>got one of the 95c AMD AM5 chips bundled with a MB>undervolted to a negative voltage curve of -30, slapped a PA 140mm on top>runs at 40C nowWew
>>750301546>Ram doesn't use heatsinkintredasting
>>750300824You sound like a woman
>>750295576Mais oui!
>>750286474based my 9800x3D cool as a cucumber with its fan cooler
>>750297350This. I got a windowless case for this reason.
AIO fags are new to the hobby and have not had their cpu almost get cooked because the pump gave out. nothing beats the simplicity of an air cooler. worst that can happen is broken fan and its like 15 bucks for a nice new one. I have been reusing my noctua for like 6 years now in different builds
>>750288838Yeah pretty much. 1-2c improvement at best if you have shitty intake airflow. With just the middle fan in my ps120, I can feel it pulling air though the front stack.
>>750303278i've never had an aio pump give out on me
>>750286659What does Noctua do that other fans don't? Like, are they really more silent or something?
You fags still aircool? Just get an AIO lmao.
>>750306431I'd rather have a hunk of metal that will last 10 years that I can just replace fans if need be than a pump that might shit the bed in 2-3.
I live in a tropical humid climate, so I use an AIO.
>>750288838true
>>750307658Then don't buy the cheap chinese shitA chip that is 15-20C cooler under load will actually last you the 10 years
>>750291714What if i don't use a k cpu?
>>750305429Yeah, because you're new to the hobby. Learn to read, kid. It'll happen eventually.
