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DmC
>>750296154Fallout 4
>>750296154saints row 4
I've never understood this sentiment. If it's not a good game in the series doesn't that pretty much make it a bad game by default?
>>750296226came here to post this
>>750296154Mirror's Edge Catalyst
>>750296154Final fantasy 16
>>750296347no, a game can be a big departure from the series identity but still stand as a good game. like RE4
Resident Evil 4, obviously. Also Ys IX: Monstrum Nox.
>>750296226new vegas too
>>750296154MGS2
>>750296154Suikoden Tierkreis
>>750296474This
We literally posted this for Dark Souls 2 back when it released.
>>750296154Metroid Fusion.
Star Ocean 5
>>750296154This is such a stupid concept. Doom 3 is the best game in the franchise and the series has been dogshit ever since. if a game is good the franchise should adjust to it going forward instead of clinging to its "identity" even if its an inferior product
>>750296154Hitman Absolution
>>750296625Hard agree. Excellent action adventure, but misses the structural appeal of Metroid entirely.
>>750296190This
>>750296474>>750296596FF16 has terrible combat, side quests and level design. How is that a good game?
>>750296696
>>750296154Twilight PrincessMetroid Other MKoF Max Impact 1 and 2>>750296190No, it's not even a DMC game. Let alone a good one.
Chrono Cross
>>750296846>Metroid Other Manon, you're better than this, bait used to be believable. yes, this is a pity (You).
>>750296810Give examples of why they're terrible. The more specific the better.
>>750296154If it's a good game but not a good [series] game, then the series is shit
Dark Souls 3.
MGSV
>>750296347It's like if a burger restaurant suddenly starts making tacos instead. Even if the tacos are good, a person who just fundamentally doesn't like tacos still won't enjoy them and will wish they went back to making burgers. I figured a food analogy would be perfect to make everyone understand since eating is such a ubiquitous experience.
>>750296941Remove every trace of writting and it's a solid game.
>>750296347Take Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts. By most accounts, it's a very good open world vehicle building sim. Cool, but it has fucking nothing to do with why people like Banjo-Kazooie, which is a 3D platformer. It's like going into a restaurant, ordering a hamburger and getting a shake. That shake might be delicious, but it's not the fucking hamburger you ordered.>inb4 food analogyIt clearly illustrates the point.
>>750296968The idea is that the series is good and the game is not as good as the other(s), usually because they took it in a different direction.
>>750296474Ff16 is pure fucking dog shit, the correct answer is ff12
>>750297031>>750297058oh fucking lol
>>750296154Symphony of the Night.
>>750297058>>750297031American hivemind
>>750296347Game experience result of the particular game =/= IP identity
>>750297056the core action gameplay is decent, the combat is a joke because mashing the d-pad makes you invincible, and the scanning sections are dogshit with or without the writing. remove the writing and its still a 6/10 tops, and that's being generous.
>>750296154Final Fantasy XI, Final Fantasy XIV and Dragon Quest XNothing against MMOs existing but they should not be considered mainline games in otherwise single-player series, especially when both series already had a history of having spinoffs with subtitles instead of numbers. Those games should just be called Final Fantasy Online, Final Fantasy Online 2 and Dragon Quest Online respectively.
>>750296846As a TPfag, I'm a bit compelled to agree. The overworld component of the game is indeed lacking in development. That said,>Metroid Other MMaybe if you fixed issues as fundamental as forced D-Pad movement, forced first person perspective for missiles and the concentration mechanic existing at all, then it might be a 6/10 in terms of raw gameplay. Maybe.
>>750297197And 6/10 is still good game territory.
>>750296154Silent Hill Downpour>>750296190True
>>750297386no, 6/10 is the high end of failing. it's "tolerable, but not a good or worthwhile experience" it's the same tier you'd put games like Deedlit in Wonder Labyrinth and Afterimage.
>>750297508>no, 6/10 is the high end of failingIt's on the later half of the scale; the side where the good things are found in games.
>>750297386Everyone knows 7/10 is the cutoff for a game being good
>>750297621If you are one of those "game journo" tier retards who says a 7/10 is somehow a trainwreck.
>>750296154Killing Floor 2
>>750297457Downpour is the opposite, it's a great Silent Hill game in concept. Problem is the devs had no talent and released an ugly, buggy piece of shit. But it's the best "idea" the series has had since Team Silent disbanded.
>>750297604if you have absolutely no standards i suppose that's true, but most people have played at least one video game before and realize there's enough 7/10 or better games out there for a lifetime and thus would never bother with 6/10 dreck willingly.
>>750297849>if you have absolutely no standards i suppose that's trueNo, it's because one has standars that enforces the 1 to 10 scale fully. Journos and media in general gaslighted you into thinking things are more glamorous than what they really are.>there's enough 7/10 or better games out there for a lifetime and thus would never bother with 6/10 dreck willingly.And yet a lot of people buys and plays post 7th gen games so they clearly bother with those 6/10 or below type of games
>>750296564fuck you
>>750298025there's no law that says >5 is good anon. you think it's objective that missing 40% of what's expected is good, but most people have standards, which is clearly something you don't get.
>>750298231>you think it's objective that missing 40% of what's expected is good, but most people have standardsIf you think the standard is everything newly released being above average levels then it's you the one that has no standars. The ratings you're used to see are heavily sugarcoated. Only a retard would not put a mid game into the middle of the very scale; everyone know Wolverine was a mid game so it's a solid 5/10
>>750296154halo reach
>>750296154Re6, gow ragnarok, totk
>>750297732The game was clunky and buggy, yeah, but I don't think it fit into the Silent Hill setting very well. The concept was good, which is why I'm saying I liked it here, but not as a Silent Hill entry.
>>750296846>Metroid Other MDangerously based. Has a lot of flaws but is otherwise a very pretty and very unique game.
>>750296154Donkey Kong BananzaIt's a good game, but it plays NOTHING like Donkey Kong.
>>750296154Breath of the wild and TotK are the definitive "Good game bad [Series] game"
BioShock Infinite. I played through it recently and had a great time with the game, but it was definitely held back by trying to force itself into the BioShock mould.
>>750296154Darkest Dungeon 2
>>750300108I'll agree that they're bad Zelda games, but I also generally dislike open world sandbox style games so I think they're just bad games period.
>>750296226agreed, it's a whole other thingf4 is FPS rimworld where you go off on adventures before coming back and continuing to build your network of settlements sort of like kenshi but actually fun
>>750296154Deus Ex 2.
>>750296154SWTOR, its a terrible KOTOR sequel, but a good Star Wars game.
>750296846Doesn't even deserve the actual reply
>>750296154Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom for sure. They just felt too much of a departure from the Legend of Zelda formula, TotK didn't nearly do enough to mend that.
Deus Ex Human RevolutionMax Payne 2
>>750296154Belmont's curse
>>750297031lollmao evenIts a good analogy but the absolute state of /v/
>>750296154Quarter pounder. It's a good burger just not a good McDonald's burger
>>750296154Star Fox 64
Age of Empires 3
What the fuck was the dev thinking when he decided to pivot into MonHun gameplay cycle and weapon system?
>>750300963That's the opposite. Invisible war is abysmal as a video game, but it is the same subgenre as the predecessor and gets the vibes correct for a sequel (that's the only thing it does well, the rest being putrid).
nothing
>>750296154KotOR 2 maybe. It was a terrible star wars game that's for sure, but people who don't like canon star wars like it, people who circlejerk EU like it
>>750296968it happens when a different developer is allowed to make a spinoff of a series and tries to subvert the series' identity.like my example KOTOR 2, Obsidian, particularly Chris Avellone, doesn't like Star Wars, with its fairly rigid light/dark force. So he wrote something that didn't work well with it, and went a different direction. People think it's interesting but it's just not Star Wars. Star Wars isn't sci fi. It's high fantasy. High Fantasy always has pretty distinct good and evil, making grey morality kind of ruins the high fantasy world you started with.
Xenoblade Chronicles X7/10 game3/10 Xenoblade game
>>750300046Should have been a Wario game, would have been way less gay
>>750305664open world was part of Zelda from the beginning the one failing was that actual dungeons were few, and replaced with a lot of smaller shrines.You still found a tool in the shrine that let you complete the shrine, but they were mostly front loaded early on.
>>750306370it was so weirdbut i liked this parallel/lore drop
>>750296154Chrono Cross was fine on its own but suffered from being the sequel to Chrono Trigger. Also, the plot summary on the wiki sounds like schizo rambling, I don't remember all that shit being in the game
>>750297031C'mon man
>>750306206I assume you meant Adventures.
>>750309289Fucking Panthers.
>>750296154Belmont curse
>>750296154Baldur's Gate 3
>>750296154Symphony of the Night, although history makes it harder to say that given how many later Castlevania games are based on SotN's gameplay. Excellent game, but huge departure from what Castlevania was up to that point.If Banjo-Kazooie N&B got ten sequels that all used the car combat, would we still be able to say it doesn't fit with the series, or would the definition of a "Banjo game" be too different to do so?
>>750296154Crysis 2
>>750296154Should have made its own thing instead of trying to unnecessarily tie everything up to the first one, the instant week 3 starts the whole plot starts to crack.
>>750296154Metroid 2
>>750296154
Bloodrayne 2
>>750297031>>750297058burger bros I kneel
>>750296154MGR.
>>750298231>>750297849>>750297508>>750297197>>750297621Found the IGN reviewers
>>750296154Metal Gear Survive
>>750296154What are some “it’s a bad game but it’s a good ‘x’ game?”
