We finally got ladders, now just another 20 years for npcshttps://projectzomboid.com/blog/news/2026/10/moving-on-up-42-22-pre-release/
>>750462221I swear to god if I boot up my game and can't climb still
>>750462221>zombies don't even have a simple reaching up animationholy fuck
>>750462221This game is so fucking garbage and any of you that supported this game are fucking retards. It is so bland and so empty that it makes Skyrim look like a masterpiece.There is literally nothing to do in this game at all, it is full of extraneous and tertiary crafting bullshit that doesn't matter, and it is designed in such a retarded manner that you have to be a retard yourself to enjoy it.
>>750462221The first person mod is an amazing experience boost for this game.
>Crowbars: A much requested feature, you can now use crowbars for more than just braining zombies and collecting window frames and flooring! Crowbars can now be utilised via the right mouse click menu to force open locked windows, doors, garage doors and gates. While not everything can be forced – security doors and jail cell doors are made of stronger stuff – intrepid survivors now have a great reason to keep a crowbar handy.
>>750462437Game's been sitting in my library for years and every few years I'll fall for the marketing and reinstall to see what's up and it's never good.
>>750462221is 42 on stable release? I don't want to check myself, spoonfeed me
>Scream Fest>not on saleWhy? They even increased the price out of nowhere months ago.
>>750462437>dogshit opinion>skyrimevery fucking time lmao
I wish that modpacks weren't all nonsencial chinese stuff because I get the urge to play this game every now and then, but having to hunt down a hundred mods every time is very annoying. I wish I could just install a "standard" pack with all the "best hits" and be done with it.
>>750462437>It is so bland and so emptyThat’s kentucky in real life though
>>750462952Skyrim is also a terrible game, if you are a Zomboid fanboy you'd probably love Skyrim too since it's full of a bunch of useless skills that do absolutely nothing, just like Zomboid.>>750462809You should just remove it from your library, the game is never going to be good because the fans are shit-eaters and gleefully enable this company to make a terrible and empty game.
>>750463030>t. zombie
>Take a vanilla zombie >Remove it’s aggression towards the player character >Add aggression towards other zombies>Give it a survivor skin>Program it to follow the player around>You now have basic NPC’sWas that really so fucking hard? Indie Store is lazy
>>750463202They're never going to add NPCs since that means they will have to add things to actually do in the world. The game ends the moment you barricade a house and have food and water.
>>750463030>gotleftbehindthefenceinLouisvilleaward
>>750463030you should go back to play your AAAs slop you only know about
>>750462221Wonder how the Zomboid Devs are gonna keep the grift going when any retard with a Claude susbscription can make mods that absolutely mog anything they could ever do and their updates just break mods.
Does PZ have forced permadeath or can I just play it casually?
>>750463415They’re still making money either way retard
>>750463316That's some interesting projection, you're saying I like slop because I am calling Zomboid a game that is both empty and full of bad ideas at the same time? That sounds like a modern AAA game, so shouldn't I like it then?
>>750463202It would be easier to duplicate the player and make it controlled by AI than try to turn a zombie into a proper NPC.Also, you would cry and seethe and piss your pants if they released NPCs that don't interact with the world or live in it.
>>750463682you have no idea what you're talking about
>>750462221>>750462569i hate these fucking retarded devs. they take eons to add basic shit like this because they'd rather spend months on adding fucking pottery.they cant even hide their butthurt about how some random shitters made a complete 3d overhaul of their game in months that everyone is praising. instead they chose to make an indirect post to scare normies away from it like "erm.. java modding is actually dangerous btw" they are so fucking out of touch its insane.
CDDA mogs this dogshit in every single possible way
>>750463813You play Zomboid. You don't think.>>750463909This is true, which version is still worth playing? I know one is infested with tranny devs.
>>750463938epic own, nigger
>>750463843They’re right and everybody downloading zombie buddy for project viewpoint will eventually learn why
>>750464010You play Zomboid, I do not need to do anything to own you.
>>7504640192 more weeks and all of you will see some serious shit
>>750462437>There is literally nothing to do in this game at all, it is full of extraneous and tertiary crafting bullshit that doesn't matter, and it is designed in such a retarded manner that you have to be a retard yourself to enjoy it.its a survival sandbox game, dumbass. if you dont like that, thats your opinion. but to try to claim theres no appeal in it at all is legit retarded
>>750464129>he keeps going on with his buttmad normie cope
>>750464220>Survival sandbox>Gets food and water>Barricades house>Congrats, you survivedAnon, adding in 50 extraneous crafting systems that add nothing of value to the game and just dilute it even further is not gameplay.
>>750464301The late game needs a faction system desu. It should be something you can actually form. Recruiting an army of survivors and going to war with other gangs would be fun.
>>750462221I bought this game like 15 years ago and it's still in early access. I genuinely don't know how else I'm supposed to look at this as anything other than a scam
>>750464019i know this is probably an ironic shitpost but modders are in general deranged and mentally stunted, multiple rimworld mods were infected (and caught) by steam. idk anything about zomboid or these java mods but if it's not open source things are gonna get real fucky if this person gets skimped an onion ring or his favorite vtuber stops posting or someone exposes their discord for the usual modder degeneracy
>>750464301any game sounds lame when you boil it down in a very dishonest way like that
>>750463938Bright Nights is usually recommended as the "fun" one compared to the other two big braches.
>>750464447That's because it is a scam, and you unfortunately fell for it. Look at how rabid the fanboys are in this thread to defend their sunk cost, at least you have the good sense to realize it was a scam.>>750464446>>750464534The game needs there to be an actual game to it. There is literally nothing at all to do in the game.It is not dishonest to describe Zomboid as boring and empty when it has literally not a single thing to do in the game at all. No objectives, no story, nothing interesting to explore in a sandbox, no points of interest, no cool loot. It is a nothing game.
We'll have WW3 before they add NPCs or anything to do after the helicopter event, which is the only thing that happens in the game after 15 years of development.
>>750464301>>750464446In the end the reason why Zomboid will literally never have a fun endgame is because of the retarded autistic aversion of the writers to adding any sort of conclusion or endingAny time you talk about it they and their fanboys go>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO IT'S NOT LE HECKIN REALISTIC, THIS IS HOW YOU DIED!!! THE ENDING IS THAT YOU DIE!!!!
>>750463415literally the only thing that could kill zomboid is if it stops working on modern hardware or OS for some reason and they don't fix it, they get more reviews in a month than most games get in their entire lifetimes, and it's been that way for years
>>750464853It's a shit game and you shouldn't have fallen for the scam.>>750464927The fanboys for Zomboid are particularly rabid even compared to garbage like gacha games or MMOs.
Why are you waiting for npcs when there’s been npc mods for years now and more recently a-life with factions
>>750462437I love sandbox games but I still hate this about zomboid. I don't know what I want from it but it just feels pointless.
>>750463030>Skyrim is full of a bunch of useless skills that do absolutely nothing,Eh? Not really
>>750462437Well yeah that's becaused they copypasted only the most basic content of cdda.They should've also brought in bionics and mutations but we all know how incompetent zomboid devs are.
damn this guy is really mad at zomboid.
>>750464220>its a survival sandbox game, dumbass.In Conan Exiles, I can craft badass houses, make a harem, do dungeons, fight bosses all vanilla. I don't need a gorillion mods to make it playable.
>>750465435He does this every single zomboid thread
>>750462358wtf?! They don't have an animation that 99% of similar games don't have??!?
>>750462221I swear to god, if my mods break yet again. i just startet my zombieless cryogenic winter run.
>>750463532You can just make a new character in the same map, go kill your old character (now a zombie) and take your stuff back.Anyway best way to play is with a mod like Antibodies that makes the virus survivable if you have good enough conditions to heal from it.
>>750462221wow only took 13 years
>>750464220>survival sandboxthere is nothing survival about zomboid. you can fuck off to a lake and just survive indefinitely fishing.
I can't wait for this company to reveal they're using generative AI and vibecoding the game now, it's inevitable after their statements.
>>750462221wow 4222 why cant they call it 45? or 91?
>>750462221It's genuinely impressive how insanely slow they are. Literal weg pace. I'd feel scammed if I hadn't gotten the game as a gift, years ago.
>>750465979Turning off zombies and turning on the nuclear radiation mod makes it a completely different game desu
>>750464220>but to try to claim theres no appeal in it at all is legit retardedNo, your comment is the only thing that is legit retarded
>>750464853it's not even a modelled heli right? just audio and a horde spawning mechanic?these devs don't deserve to eat
The end game should be ducking an alien invasion after they had sent the zombies to destroy everything. Imagine chilling at your lake base at night and seeing a bright craft tracking you. Maybe make some interesting ways that they can track you that completely changes the way you play.
>>750467414I will definitly try it but at the moment i'm enjoying the -22°F in the middle of June.
>>750467985>Aliens abduct you>while aboard their ship you are forced to slave away >you can find ways to escape>the game turns into a space sim >you can go back and save earth using new found technology >it turns into the sim city >you can planet hop
what's the appeal of this game over cdda?
>>750463532If you really want, you can just keep a copy of your save file in case something dumb happens, like falling through a roof or accidentally jumping over a ledge when you're building stairs.
>>750468335it is realtimeyou don't learn about a new pride flag every time you loot a corpsethat is about it
>>750468335It reminds me of sims
>>750462221Does it have acid spitters now or at least zombie dogs?
>>750468825pretty sure there are mods for that
>>750468335doesn't look and operate like something you work through on your 9 to 5
Has anyone tried the A-Life mods?
>>750462221Cant we just use ai and put the npcs in there ourselves?
>>750462437>>750462809I can not express enough how you have shit taste. I have 700 hours in this game. If you do not see the appeal of carving out a piece of the county for yourself and exploring all the big landmarks at least once you lack a fundamental component of what makes a man a man. It's okay if you're autistic and you like smacking blocks together in the village, but unironically Zomboid is Sims but for men and there's a reason for that.
>>750469125>carving out a piece of the country for yourself>barricade the first floor of a house, win gameThere is nothing interesting anywhere at all in Zomboid to explore, and on top of that the exploration isn't fun.
>>750468906The dialog system is confusing and I don’t have the patience to sign up for discord to understand it all since they don’t put that information on their steam page but it works as intended if you just want different factions roaming around to make things more interesting.
>>750462437Correct. Literally nothing matters anymore once you established a base. I doubt this game will ever even be finished, because the developers seem to only work for a single week per year.
>>750464853>WW3Never going to happen.
>>750463030Everyone that isn't retarded played Skyrim in the big 2011 and then went on to put 50-100 hours into the game AT MINIMUM. That's the minimum of not being a retard with bad taste. After that it's putting in 100ish hours every two years due to mod playthroughs. Cry about not having crpg dialogues with branching paths and cry about not having Monster Hunter skill combat. Fine. It's a fun immersive world that was lightning in a bottle for the time and company it was made in. You go through this land, join factions, slay dragons, marry slut elves and werewolves, and do hype shit in fantasy Scandinavia. If you have not been able to into Skyrim in the last 15 years, you are a fucking tastelet. Dweeb.t. 2k hours.
>>750469451Skyrim is a bad game anon, even as a teenager I was able to smell shit, did your nose or brain not work?
>>750469451Different Anon. I still haven't played more than 15 minutes of the beginning of Fallout 3 and Skyrim.
>>750469508>I was able to smell shitThat’s normal in india
>>750462221>Modders already added NPCs and tons of content in before the AI boom>Now modders are adding in real cool stuff like working airplanes, NPCs with a proper AI system and factions and tons of stuff, and even being able to play this as an actual action 3D game>All the devs can (still) do is steal features from mods that have been around for months or even years and claim them as Original Content™These devs are a fucking joke
>>750469451>Everyone that isn't retarded played Skyrim
>>750469125>I have 700 hours in this game.You also like Divinity: Bestiality Gate 3, which just proves how braindead you are.
>>750469569Indians are the ones still playing Skyrim since Todd paid them to do it.>>750469651People should just stop modding the game and accept that it is fucking trash.>>750469549>>750470073Thank you for being correct, anons. People with shit taste that think Skyrim is a good game shouldn't be allowed to have opinions and should probably be castrated and used as eunuchs.
>>750462221>perpetual early access game is so half assed that even in the promo shot you have the player's animations not synchronized with the ladder he's climbing up7DTD pissed me off when I found that my save from years ago wasn't able to be loaded but god damn does zomboid always manage to be the worse title.
>>750465108You want progression or more arcade survival gameplay. If the game had special zombies appearing after a ceratin number of days, there would be more reason to play the game. Right now you can walk into a police station grab all the guns and that's it, you are on top with no effort. You have no need for building a fort with traps, because there is no bigger threat than basic zombie, you don't need to hoard ammo and explosives because there is no zombie who could tank it. With current progression there is nothing to do past the basic beginning of the game.Alternatively, if the gameplay was not a full sandbox but a proper resource management with waves of zombies or something like that, it would have more sensible goals like surving as long as possible for a record and there woyuld be different strategies to how this can be optimized.
>>750469451>Everyone that isn't retarded played Skyrim in the big 2011 and then went on to put 50-100 hours into the game AT MINIMUM.True. I then realized that it is fucking copy-pasted and level-scaled horse shit and felt disgusted with myself for wasting that much time on the game. I could have just followed the main quest and ended it all within 2 hours.
>>750469125>If you do not see the appeal of carving out a piece of the county for yourself and exploring all the big landmarks at least once you lack a fundamental component of what makes a man a man.I dunno, man, I thought being a man means building your house, resposibly having a wife and kids, getting an important job and helping your kids to het an important job, so your family grows influence, etc., not playing escapist toys for kids.
>>750462221>you can fly jet planes in this shit nowWhat the fuck has Lemmy and co been doing this whole time?
>>750468864This game afwul, aaaaaaugh
>>750470841>Video games? I hate ‘em look how cool I am /v/ and it’s forced contrarianism I swear to god
>>750463202>Project A-Life does this at scale with multiple warring factions and the ability for AI to claim territory in real time>no way to set up trade deals and play them against each otherSurvivalist Invisible Strain is perfect in this regard. The fact that a vibeslopper cooked this up. All while Lemmy took the last guy who did NPCs and forced him to make pottery really makes you think.
>>750462437This. Anyone with an IQ above 85 would immediately know that there's no real goal in PZ except survival, but why would you want to survive in a boring and empty world? Give us a fucking end game or something. Have a story mode and a survival mode so no autists get upset.
>>750468906The bandits are brutal as shit if you haven't got yourself set up yet. Getting blasted by some cunt through a window whilst you're cooking some beans is a spooky thing to behold. The checkpoint being manned is neat because they just KOS for about a week. Then they fuck off so you can loot any leftovers from their cowardly asses.
>>750471751>people have started making FiveM autism servers based around RPIt's not bad if you can handle playing a character for a bit. Otherwise you can run NPC jobs like trash pickup and spend your days making homebrews and pissing off the neighbors at 3am with sax practice.
>>750471123Based Survivalist chad, that game deserves way more recognition.
>>750469259>>750471780Thanks might check it out.
>>750472139Best $20 I ever spent it's a fantastic game. Even if it looks and plays like cheap shit. It's what State of Decay was supposed to be if they focused more on the AI and how it reacts when you start fucking with them.
>>750462221>ladders are a major releaselmfaoThis project is so incredibly mismanaged.
>>750472650State of Decay is the better game though, because it actually has a mid game and late game.
how many of you guys have actually made it to 2+ years? Isn't it a completely different game where you run entirely out of gasoline and trees start growing everywhere?
>>750474841I quit after 30 days, because there is nothing to other than collect canned and cry yourself to sleep for perpetuity.
>>750475024>canned*canned food
>>750475024You forgot milk cows and make butter to eat.
having put 50 hours into C:DDA and a couple hundred into zomboid, I don't really see the point of playing zomboid at the current rate that content gets added. maybe vibecoded mods could add some life to it but it's so bare bones
>>750474841How do all of the autism bases function once the fuel runs out? Can you make some form of biofuel to keep the lights on?
>>750462221the game has officially seen 1 full turn, maybe several, of human era advacements.it won't be 20 years.do you know why?modders have so much to work with that at this point, TURBO MODDERS FUELED BY AI, PURE AI JUICE, SUCCULENT, BIG VOLUMES OF WHITE AI JUICE DOWN MY THROAT, are going to build EVERY FEATURE to the point where the developers will become MOGGED in their own game and wonder what the fuck are we doing really?and then there's a dilemmaan this won't be JUST PROJECT ZOMBOID EVERYONE WILL HAVE THIS DILLEMMA -"WILL WE USE AI TOOLS TO FURTHER ACCELERATE THE DEVELOPMENT OF OUR GAME FROM HERE ON OUT OR WILL WE KEEP USING OUR EXISTING SLOW PIPELINE?"then, the companies who start using AI will backwards port and essentially COPY MODS MADE FOR THEIR GAMES BACK INTO THEIR GAMES WITH OR WITHOUT PERMISSIONSAND BOOMPROJECT ZOMBOID??? MORE LIKE, ACCELERATED DEVELOPMENT MODEAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I LOVE THE FUTURE!!! I LOVE THE FUTUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURE!!!!!!!
>>750475829Imagine the coom mods
>>750476015the game's ragdolls aren't really appealing to me but you know, with AI, and the fact that the game uses 3D models, I'm actually hopeful for nice coom mods.the thing is personaly though, I really dislike the gameplay of zomboid. sorry not sorry. I am one of the first backers of the game back when you had to buy just 1 of their other games to get the tech demo alpha version, only paid a dollar or two.and followed it sinceI don't like it.many bad design choices,and the whole "get bitten and watch yourself die like a cuck" doesn't make me happy. the development pace doesn't make me happy.wake me up when the chuds take it back, which is VERY VERY SOON. LIKE VERY SOON.we're doing such amazing things every single day. I'm honestly reconsidering being a game developer as a job.what's an iteration? It's not longer a slog over weeks of work, if you got the tokens ITs a matter of minutes to single digit hours.
>>750462437They should copy stalker coc and have you running around grabbing documents from abandoned subterranean labs.
People keep saying this game needs an actual ending or conclusion to aim towards and I wanna ask what think that end goal should be. Genuinely curious
>>750476381Finding NPC wife and repopulating the earth with her.
>>750476381Literally anything at all to encourage you to have something to do in the game, the game ends once you barricade a building and have some food and water. There is no reason to go and fight zombies or explore since you die in 1 hit to zombies if you get unlucky, the combat isn't fun, the weapons are boring, and the loot distribution sucks.
>>750476381Fucking off through great effort or creating a faction of survivors that is able to rebuild and thrive for countless generations to come or building the largest shrine to hatsune miku the world has ever seen.
>>750462437I agree.
I'M GONNA SAY IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!CATACLYSM BRIGHT NIGHTS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!GET YOURSELF A ZOMBIE GAME EXPERIENCE THAT IS ACTUALLY FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD
>>750475734you are forced to use the primitive skills
>>750476381Life is pointless and even moreso when you are the last man on earth. Your pointless death is the point of the game. In a real apocalypse most survivors would kill themselves.If you don't understand the "point" of the game is to struggle against the inevitable it's an issue of iq.
>>750476381a timeline of major events which mix up the situation in knoxville and prevent it from being utterly static and too easy / boring in the long run. basically stuff like the helicopter event. a major storm could come in and cause a bunch of damage to the overall county that won't get repaired. NPCs like army guys and roving bandits would help with this. motivation for players to move around and react to new dangers.
>>750477315this is absolute retardary. everyone understands the 'this is how you died garbage' - it's just shit game design and doesn't work. a real survivor can read books and paint portraits and enjoy their meals. a zomboid player watches their character do these things and gets none of the enjoyment. it's a fundamental disconnect that retards like you always ignore because bad game design is art or some horseshit. it's not deep, you're just a neckbeard faggot.
>>750477391>Major storm does damageprobably the best idea I've heard as a followup to the helichopper event. Would love to see what TIS could do with flooding if we give them a solid 5 years to work on the concept and bring it to alpha.
>>750477315>Life is pointless and even moreso when you are the last man on earth.But then there is finally time, at last! That is as long as your glasses dont break.
>>750462358Laptop got stolen. Please understand.
>>750477674I'm so tired of hearing that excuse as to why Zomboid is such a bad game lol
>>750477662Forgot the image
>>750477595Of course it works. Why do you think all the game systems are built for long term? The entire theme and atmosphere of this game is struggle.>but I just raided 3 gas stations and have 100lbs of beef jerky!?most people play the game wrong and never see year 2 or 3.
>>750476381Rebuilding civilization, how you do it or what it'll look like would be up to you.
>>750462221>bought the game on GOG>it's pretty funI just wish i had friends that were into videogames like this so we can make a server. Sadly everyone i know is a LoL/FIFA/CS basic bitch.
>>750477886You're a basic bitch for playing this shitty game.
>>750478003Did i strike a nerve?
Homie is mad as fuck about project zombino did a zombie fuck ur gf or something
>>750478187You have awful taste in games if you want to get your friends into playing this slop.
>>750477315Cool, sounds like I don't need to play once it settles in to mundane drudgery.
>>750478187Its an engagement bot, dont mind it.
>>750477771>most people play the game wrongid say theyre playing the game right and engaging with the game how its meant to be. not their fault the game gives them nothing outside of that.>BRO WHAT DO YOU MEAN GREEN BAR GO UP IS BAD DESIGN WTF!!!!
>>750478865it's obviously not for you.>>750478554>calls peak gameplay mundane drudgeryit's not for you.
>>750462221It’s hilarious to me that they intentionally added a bunch of ladders with the map update with the intention of making them functional… months later. I have a mod that makes them useable, how hard could it have been to implement them with the map update?
>>750462221I'm having clod work on systematically understand how the game works via decompilation and then I'm going to port this shit into a better engine of my own creation and the first thing im gonna do is make nonshit UI and untangle all the retarded spaghetti. It will be glorious
>>750462437It's a zombie survival game that swerved into obsessing over being a detailed sandbox instead of focusing on dev-made progression paths to structure player interaction. But it's detailed enough that the game could be anything, from a ss13 clone to an extraction shooter, which you have to give the devs some credit for.
>>750462760Shit like this is so baffling. How did it take like a decade to think oh we should make it so crowbars which are already completely implemented, can open a locked windowLike what the fuck
>>750463004The issue is they break shit randomly and then mod guys get annoyed fixing shit every time they decided xd update 99801 came out today now you can mow the lawn xddd so they just give up eventually. Real shame since 90% of it is what makes their game playable
>>750479426with blackjack and hookers
>>750463843Holy fuck this guy is a fag i am NOT reading all that he could have finished like 4 updates in the time he spent crying about that shit
>>750462897been since summer
>>750462221STILL NO AMMO CRAFTING>STILL NO AMMO CRAFTINGSTILL NO AMMO CRAFTING>STILL NO AMMO CRAFTINGSTILL NO AMMO CRAFTING
>>750468335
>>750479698Yeah pretty much except more so being able to change things without breaking every mod ever and also making it way more efficient there's no reason the game needs to run like shit
>>750479995the point of the game is dying after maxing out your arts and crafts skills, not survival you stupid chud
>>750480000peak imaginary world lmao
>>750479995Not even a reloading bench, but all the glassmaking you could ever want!
>>750480000acknowledged
>>750476381They literally have scenarios.>Scenario about one of the towns, barricaded; repair a transmitter, radio for help, survive until the chopper lands on a designated point/roof>Make it to boat before the army bombs the place>You are part of the research team, set up a secondary base and gather samples to find and test a cure>Looters are gathering up all the supplies, rush to get anything at the start and then hunt down hideouts>The tv says there is an organised pushback against the undead hoarde, at this rate they'll be here in 2 weeks, hold out until thenIt's not hard to come up with an end to survival that isn't perpetual survival through farming and metallurgy
>>750462437It's zynga type of game. Menial busywork tasks to keep the 'player' busy.
I boot up the game once in a while solely to fix a virtual sandwich or meal and just tune out with the ambient hum of a virtual washing machine or dripping faucet in the background.much like throwing a block of coal into a Minecraft furnace just to have it crackle for a while longer.
>>750479451What are you talking about? SS13 blows Zomboid away in terms of things you can actually do that actually matter.
>>750462221>20 years in development>still no option to play as a trans or non-binary character>not even a vitiligo slider>you can't even be visually fatHow are these devs not embarrassed with themselves?
>>750462221This game looks so fun but at the same time it's aggravating to look at how certain aspects of it are designed. I'm guessing it's a textbook case of turbo autism where the dev wants things done one way and despite making a boatload of money will refuse to change things or drag his feet on much needed/desired updates.I don't know how you can have vehicles but not ladders or >>750462760. Also the UI needs someone not on the spectrum to clean it up so looting and moving items feels more like playing a game and less like trying to navigate my file browser in windows 98.
>>750480946I hate the people who think the game needs an end state. It's so fucking hollywood it disgusts me. Not all fiction has to have a happy ending or make a point. Just let it be what it is.
>>750481345Zoomers can't handle the concept of setting their own goals, they need a clear defined endpoint to aim for or they lose interest fast.
>>750481345Read the room anon, you're the reason we have glass making and so much useless shit because they are focused on what the player does as the game still goes on and never ends.I know autism makes letting a base you spent a long time on go, but there needs to be a point. Otherwise it gets stale ..like it is now.
>>750481467You lack imagination, your brain has been addled due to usage of a tablet and smartphone from a young age. Games like this don't need a final boss, an end goal, the goal is for you to make your own adventure, set your own path, and figure out how to walk it.
>>750481467glass making is not a bad idea. Only having 5 recipes is the reason it sucks.
>>750481415it's not about age, its an archetype. People that can't appreciate a slow burn. All they care about is guns and balls and big titties.
>>750462221Literally all this game needs is basic NPCs factions.Friendly/Neutral/Bandits NPC that either spawn randomly or if you want to push it a bit have them spawn in a random area and build up a base that they do stuff out of.It'd shake up the gameplay enough>recruiting NPCs which means needing to feed more than yourself meaning needing to raid more or have bigger farms>managing NPC schedule if you have a bigger base>enemy factions could try to raid your base meaning you'd actually have to defend your walled off from zombies base, surviving means repairing your base healing yourself (and possibly friendlies)>Raids would scale as the game go on meaning you'll need better defenses/weapons/possibly more people>Places to raid that aren't the random survivor homes where the only threat to good loot is 3 zombies>Trading>probably more I can't think ofInstead the devs decided that every NPC must have a fleshed out story using the original Bob as an example. Can't imagine how fucking boring that'll be once you've met them all and redo a new world meaning you'll have to do the same fucking shit over and over if you want to recruit them I guess.That shit is fucking unimplentable and is never going to happen. The game as it is is rimworld, but you only get 1 character and there's no raids or any threatening events besides melee zombies being littered around the world. The game is essentially over the second you get a farm going in a secure location and the only reason you'll ever die is because you got bored so you started getting careless when looting for useless shit to make a glass cock ring.
A-life is pretty funny. I was just warming up some food in the oven and a fucking biker flew through the kitchen window and slapped me with a baseball bat
Do you faggots really not use mods?
>>750481885you know that as soon as they implement NPCs they'll have some retarded shit where your base gets raided by 20 niggers daily trampling your crops and you can never know peace.
>>750462221What are some recommended mods to flesh out the game past week 1? Once you have water collection, generators, a bunch of guns, and reliable food, the game kinda stops having a reason to play it.
>>750481885What is the point of recruiting NPCs when you can survive just fine alone? Actually, it's easier to survive alone because you only have to feed yourself.
>>750481193Literally unplayable
I dont want for recruiting NPC. Just enough you can contact them, interact, doing something together for a while. Stumble upon them when youre looting.
>>750482098Have you tried uninstalling it and playing a better game?
>>750482563such as?
>>750482521same, drive around, see a couple guys fighting off zombies as they desperately get surrounded and eaten, go into a grocery store and see a few people cowering in the back, find some rat in a boarded house that'll trade me canned beans for a pack of cigs, etc.
>>750482338What's the point of half the shit in this game? I know let's waste time and ressources making a fucking champagne glass. I can think of several mechanics for recruiting>sending them on loot search>NPC has better stats than you in one area allowing you to get something faster, maybe they could teach you shit>could have discussions to raise your mood>have them do the menial shit around the camp like digging 50 plots or sawing 100 logs so you don't have to do itJust like the rest of the game, you wouldn't have to recruit but it's something that would have its advantages and drawbacks and is more interesting than fucking pottery. Could ignore every NPC if you wanted just like no one is ever going to do glassmaking unless it's the last thing they haven't done.
>>750482707I just can't see NPCs navigating through towns without immediatetly dying.
>>750463532You can just disable infection.
>>750476381Nation building Kenshi style. Enslave your enemies, force them to mine materials at the industrial scale and take the dying ones to boil down as meat for the rest.
>>750477778>soupmaxx to make it through the winter>money stolen
>>750476381Kidnap lolis and hebes until you have a harem.
>>750476718>building the largest shrine to hatsune miku the world has ever seen.
>>750469451you are not in the presence of a white user base, browns cant understand Skyrim
OMW to lou uhhhhhhh ville
>>750471051The pot calling the kettle black. He isn't making his statement in a vacuum. He's responding. Are you retarded?
>>750469125>I have 700 hours in this game.
>>750481415If that were to be the case, then minecraft wouldn't be as popular as it is. Zomboid is an interesting sim, but that is about it, it's just a sim. Once you get a proper handle on the mechanics and basic survival, you have essentially engaged as much as you will ever engage with the game. Sure you can get slightly better weapons, and laboriously tick away at progress bars, but for what? What is the point of it? You are already surviving just fine. It is all style and no substance. I'm getting sleepy just typing and describing this snore fest.
>>750485713he's a zomboid fan, what do you think?
>>750485938I don't know why the ability to have intrinsic motivations is so difficult for you. You come up with your own personal missions, goals, and achievements to strive for, just like in real life. Surviving just fine? Turn your house into a mansion, collect appliances to make your life easier. Start an art collection because you like the posters. There are plenty of reasons to give yourself to go outside of your bubble and explore the world.
>>750462221>release "stable" build>completely fuck up everythingDid they fix retarded shit like loot tables being all wrong and all over the place and kitchnens missing fridges yet?
>>750486523>I don't know why the ability to have intrinsic motivations is so difficult for you. They are not difficult to understand. That is why I said it is a interesting sim. It simulates. It simulates what it would be like in a zombie apocalypse, and you know what, its pretty damn good at it too. The only problem is that its FUCKING BORING.
>>750476381A sex update that lets you breed with survivor NPCs to start a family and restart civilization.
>still no functioning child mod
>>750486780You must not be very good at it if you can't make your own entertainment without someone spoon feeding you directions every hour of the day. If you can't see why planning a multi-day trip out of town and the dangers you might face would be exciting, I don't know what to tell you.
>>750487045You must be midwestern or rural.
>>750468276Fucking awful idea
>>750487320Not even close lmao
>>750462760ten years later they finally dropped the mod into the base files
>>750487327I don’t think it was serious anon
>>750463202>every single change to zombies or survivors now breaks the otherit would slow down their development even MORE
>>750487045>why planning a multi-day trip out of town and the dangers you might face would be excitingThere might be more zombies so I will kite them for 5 real life hours or crouch walk through like every single time I leave my base. Riveting stuff.
>zomboid thread>BUT IT NEEDS AN END GAME THERES NOTHING TO DOevery time
>>750487895Some people can't help the fact that they are cattle that need to be led around by the nose
>>750487943like the retards who plays a game with no point
>boot up project zomboid>spawn somewhere>decide an isolated area is good for shelter>shelter is necessary because you cant perpetually run from zombies, you get flooded with shit moodles>if this happens you die of the common cold, fatigue, starvation and depression within 24 hours>scrape isolated area for blunt objects (weapons)>this is necessary because guns are not only rare but so loud they attract all zombies spawned on the map>backpedal while swinging shit at zombies in "isolated" area>takes about 6 hits to kill a zombie so you get tired quickly>if more than one zombie is aggro'd have to run away, taking 1 damage means you get infected and die>running away also makes you tired>there will always be about 50 zombies in anything larger than a portapotty>if there's two buildings next to each other there will actually be 300 zombies in each, etc.>after taking a week to clear out an area now have to move the zombie bodies to a mass grave>this will probably infect you because miasma theory is real in this game>if that doesnt happen you now the proud owner of an empty building with nothing in it>now have to spend a week walking to places full of zombies for supplies like food and water>you will consume 50% of the supplies doing this>you cant just camp or anything, a zombie will blunder into you>cant just hide in parts of the room, the game will tell a zombie you're sleeping and have them bust in>have to walk back to your empty building, recharge, walk to where supplies might be, spend 8 in-game hours backpedaling to melee some zombies, repeat>all this so you can get enough seeds and gardening equipment to play the real game: farming simulator>farming sucks immense ass and is the same as scavenging gameplay but 500x more tedious>all this so you can avoid ever seeing any zombies in a game called "project zombies"Why do people ask for an end game? Why do they invent dynamic stuff like bandits? Can't they see how fun this is?
>>750487792Wake me up when we start having fun.
>>750462221Can we stand on slanted roofs yet?
>>750488180You forgot the part where you have to watch in game TV for 9 in game days otherwise your character is a complete retard.
>>750488180Reading this made me physically cringe. Wtf is the dev team fucking doing? I was so excited when they announced this 14 fucking years ago. Where did the time go? What the fuck have they been doing with this game?
>>750488180There’s an options menu with extensive settings that can be turned on or off.
>>750462760...this wasn't already in the game? I haven't played since 2014, what the shit (NPCs coming soon!)
>>750462221can't he just ask claude to put in NPCs and it'd be done in a day? What's the issue?
>>750488471TV shit is a begtard trap. it's time you should be spending out there getting more resources. TV shit only gets you up to level 3, which is super easy to grind anyway, just read a book and do the relevant task for a bit to get the same gains. TV is only worth it if you happen to be in a house with one around the program time and feel like tuning in, but definitely don't go out of your way to do it.
>>750488479they spend more time adding extra in-depth gardening and shit like pottery, instead of filling out the main experience with NPCs and a real endgame before making bloat for fun.
>>750465414thisCDDA is how you make the post apocalypse fun and it's on a level of greatness that Zomboid only apes in the shittiest of ways
>>750488870Ah yes, reading books the funner alternatives to sitting and watching TV. It's sitting and looking at literally nothing but a progress bar while you hit fast forward, then you have to disassemble 500 chairs.
>>750489078I read books while doing other waitshit, like letting food cook, or waiting out fog/night, not when the clock strikes 6/12. And the grind for those 3 levels doesn't take 300 fucking chairs, and is something you can do as you scavenge. I'll just grab the first screwdriver I find and randomly disassemble any phones and lamps I see as I loot buildings, shit skills up without me even realizing.
>>750476381the extraction mod is pretty good, you start anywhere on the map then have to jump through a couple of hoops to get a helicopter to land in the city, you have to fight off hoards while you wait for it.it gives you a lot of long and medium term goals, like you need to explore to find the walkie talkies, then optionally build/find radio towers, then have enough weapons/supply/skill to survive the hoard.there's no reason the base game couldn't have something like this as well as 5 other ways to "end" a run with a "victory", they could also be entirely optional.
>>750480000too much reading in this game. that's why no one plays it.
>>750480000Looks like shit. This is what troons are shilling? Glad I’m sticking with zomboid.
>>750478949>it's not for you.Fair enough, but this isn't a game. This is a sim. SNORESVILLE.
>>750489707you know its a sim yet you complain about it and cry that it should be more gamey. Fuck yourself.
>>750490325It purports to be a videogame, which it is not. Can you warm up a glass of milk for me? Talking about this "game" is putting me to sleep.
The end game should be working on an airborne Knox Virus cure by piecing it together from research papers in various military bases and when you release it all the zombies start dropping like flies and you slowly die of corpse sickness
>>750464220>It's shit on purpose, CHUD!That's not the own you think it is, lmao.
Viewpoint pvp servers are starting to look kinda crazy wtf
>>750491496lel
>>750488916the funny part is that the two things this game gets likened to is the sims and the walking dead so many people say zomboid is a twd sim which couldn't be further from the truth. but it's literally like neither of them since a fundamental aspect of both the sims and the walking dead is character interaction lmao. i still have no clue how the hell people compare it to sims outside of the art style
>>750491496Zomboid getting decomped and remade into a zombie pub g would unironically be so fucking fun.
>>750489570Zomboid is the trooned out soulless ripoff of CDDA, zoomer
>>750491668Is this bait?
>>750488557Use case?
>>750491684Are you braindead? Don't answer that, it's rhetorical.
>>750462221claude could add functional npcs in mere minutes
>>750491684Yes, there's a cdda schizo every single zomboid thread even though the two have as much in common as zomboid does with grounded 2.
>>750491627you answered yourselfpeople see thing that looks like thing and say thing is thing.
>>750463938>This is true, which version is still worth playing? I know one is infested with tranny devs.all of them sadly, there's no escaping it.
>>750469451Based Beyond BeliefI legitemetly do not understand how any self proclaimed "gaymers" can dislike SkyrimBut then I remember this is /v/ where bering a contrarian is so cool
>>750476381>People keep saying this game needs an actual ending or conclusion to aim towards and I wanna ask what think that end goal should be. Genuinely curiousWhat about the obvious ones?>Edges of the map are fucking packed with zombies, maybe even naturally spawning sprinters>Get to the edge of the map and you can escape for a 'Who knows what happened to them afterwards?' ending>Go to secret army base, add bunch of fully armored military zombies all over the place, grab the cure and make it to the top of louisville hospital for a special ending where the last survivors cured the planet>End-game repairwork like fixing the power station, water plant, an M1 Abrams tank, etc>The cannibals mentioned on the radio invade and you either have to hide from, or kill them as they roam from one side of the map to the other>How about NPC's???>Fuckhuge literal tsunami wave of the undead passing from town to town, get the fuck out of their way>Virus mutates eventually and wildlife can now be infected, that 800 kilogram zombie bull is going to wreck your shit>Get pieces of a code from the various military bases to transmit to the survivors in America, bunch of Army guys show up to kick ass and take names, escorting you to safety
>>750481345>I hate the people who think the game needs an end stateThat was the original point and intention of zomboid until the devs got too lazy to flesh out the scenario based philosophy of designing the game. You are a b41 tourist who bought into it because of youtuber ecelebs.
if im playing on a multiplayer server can i use the viewpoint mod on it for myself or does the server need to have that mod as well
>>750465565>Conan Exilesholy shit, I didn't expect someone to actually talk about this game on 4chani'm trying to play Conan Exiles Enhanced and... ??? what the fuck am I supposed to do? The game is so bad and I'm just running around without an objective. I don't get it.What am I doing wrong? I've just been doing a bunch of "journeys" to replace quests but it just feels like tutorials and one of them requires feathers but I can't find a bird anywhere. Eventually searched for the answer and there are supposed to be birds sitting on cliffs but damned if I saw one. And even if I did my reward is a slightly better arrow, yay.I legit wonder if I missed what the game wants me to do. It also takes ages to go anywhere and then you have to run allllll the way back, what a fucking time sink.
>>750481345>I hate the people who think the game needs an end state Game literally launched with the end goal of protecting your wife until her leg healed. But you surely already knew that, right? You didn't start playing the game when they added cars, right?
>>750492915You know you're allowed to change directions in a project, right?
>>750462221Is the tutorial still broken because of the ragdolls? I pirated it and uninstalled when I saw that I couldn't even play 5 minutes until hitting a game breaking bug.
>>750492994Sure, but if you change for the worse, don't be surprised people call you out for it. Don't offer the world, and provide nothing.
>>750492994That's why it took them this long to add crowbars and ladders. They changed directions from developing a game to a forever early access scam
>>750493323>adds ragdolls, which are famously hard to sync in multiplayer games>does this before adding basic QOL like disabling sleep if bad smells are nearbyFucking incompetent retards.
>>750476381Before Steam got sloppified, I was working on a simple Zomboid clone.Instead of making it a story-heavy campaign, the easiest approach would be to give the player a bucket list of things to collect. Some locations could have an endless supply of gas, guns, or food, or a working boat for example.The player explores the world, gathers everything on the list, and then just fucks off to some safe, isolated place.
>>750491923>>End-game repairwork like fixing the power station, water plant, an M1 Abrams tank, etcSeeing that vibesloppers have managed to make jet planes a thing I expect to see tanks making their way in. If you could live your life out of some old rust bucket like an A7 or a MK IV Landship with an RV interior it would be legit. Even better get a little clowncar FT Renault or Ford 1918 and just go around flattening zombies.
>>750489184leveling up skills is quite literally a waste of your time with how its currently implemented.if you're playing on a server and missed the very start, sure skip the tv xp and look for vhs instead.but if you think>doing nothing while your read a book and then nigsripping nearby furniture for an houris better than>watching tv for one irl minute for the same resultyou're buckbroken retard.
>>750489184>>750496821It doesn't matter, niggers. It's literally a sandbox game. There's no rush to do anything. Leveling skills one way or the other doesn't change anything.
>>750498145>It doesn't matter, niggers. It's literally a sandbox game>It's shit on purpose????
>>750462221Does he have the ladder build backed up off site?
>-debug>raise all xp levels to max>turn off blood/saliva infections>turn on multi zombie hit>turn of sickness from corpses its gaming time
>>750465745The ah, the ASCI art games?
>>750498325>coop>install weapon mods>stock up on crates of weapons and ammo>stealthly admin spawn hordes of zombies somewhere>convince them to come thereYep, it is gaming time.
>>750498257It's grindy. Wouldn't call it shit.
>>750462760This has been a mod for years now. The devs are simply too lazy and retarded.
>>750498421Grindy games can be okay if the payoff is spectacular.Grindy games are not okay when you spend IRL days doing repetitive tasks to make a baseball bat. I am pretty sure you can make a baseball bat faster IRL via carving, than grinding to make one ingame.
>>750463843that's one of the old lemmy meltdownsdid he say anything about the 3d mod?
>>750462221Why does project zomboid which has a team (right?) take a decade to add the most basic features while Elin a game made by one Japanese otaku autist adds genuinely cool content almost every 2-3 days...?
how did locked doors work before crowbars?
>>750498736You disassemble it like an autistic fucking retard or smash it with a sledgehammer
>>750498736You either had to find the key or bash the door down with something like an axe or sledgehammer
claude please mod in npcs please
>>750498795npc mods have existed for years
>>750498815that's about time we have some good ones
>>750462569>vibe coded slop really wish this garbage would stop getting recommended to me on YouTube
>>750498826some of them are decent a lot of them are shit. A-life seems to be the most promising right now but it still needs some work when conversing with npcs.
>>750462437
>>750462760>force open locked windows, doors, garage doors and gatesSwear to god I used to do just that with a crowbar on my playthrough like 5 years ago. Must've been a mod then
damn i didn't realize the majority of /v/ hates project zomboid i was excited to talk about it here since i just started playing
>>750499070They've just spent too much time on it that they come to hate it. It's very fun the first time around.
>>750499070/v/ hates everything, it's a very autistic minority
>>750499028Yea it is a mod. I have the same one for a minute now.
>>750499070It's a terrible game with absolutely nothing to do in it.
>>750498508>did he say anything about the 3d mod?He threw a hissyfit and did a hit-piece on java-modding, saying it's dangerous and that Chinese/Russian hackers will steal your information.
>>750463202Nah, just have these basic NPC dispositions>friendly Will follow and help the player if they can; trade supplies>neutral/indifferentDoesn't care about the player, will just go on their own lone wolf NPC adventure and may or may not turn hostile>hostileWill attack the player on sight and fuck up other survivors
>>750500438He’s right
>>750462437Dangerous TRVKE… I haven’t played this shit in what feels like half a decade, but idk cause I stopped following it after they said they lost all the build at one point or some other stupid shit. The game stagnated. Are there even AI survivors yet? Bandits or looters? I also remember the animations being kinda shit.
>>750462221The Build 42 crafting system is so fucking convoluted and terrible. I can't stand it. I play a character and just loot shit for a couple weeks then get bored and give up because I don't want to fucking level pottery, butchering, and knapping, and carving that isn't woodworking for some reason wtf?
>>750499070Most people who come to this board in the current era come here to talk about things they hate instead of things they like. >>750498875I thought I wanted NPCs for the longest time but after all these years and after all of the different variations of them, I came to the conclusion that NPCs in zomboid are honestly not fun to interact with at all. A-life is still really impressive though
>>750465414>>750465414To be fair, whoever is in charge is doing their best of practically removing bionics.All bound to some meme OC faction. Gone are the days where you could disect malfunctioning cyborgs and ghetto insert yourself some tool fingers.
>>750464927Then make an ending where you die? Go out in a blaze of glory stopping the virus from spreading. There is a "secret" military base after all, use it.
>>750500438>hit-piece on java-moddingthat's not a hit piece, he did the responsible thing by warning anyone who may not know the risk, it wasn't too long ago that peoples playground got hit with malware through steam workshop
>>750462221How do zombies have the cognitive faculties to walk up stairs but are incapable of climbing ladders? Either both are possible or neither should be.
>>750501884They made a game where you can shove malware into it with trivial ease.It's their responsibility to make sure that doesn't happen, instead they pushed the blame on the community lmao.
>>750499070Lemmy is a prick but Zomboid has the kind of potential that is wasted in their grubby angloid hands.
>>750470842Anon, they added mechs.
I had no interest in this game till I found the shota nudity mod.
>>750462437this is true
>>750462221Can you build them yet?
