JRPG's are unironically the best gaming genre in existence when it's done right. What would you consider a God-tier JRPG?
>>750508029JRPGfags have never refuted this
>>750508130>leftist memes be like
>>750508130in contrast to crpgs, jrpgs can actually be fun to play. your great wall of china text is now irrelevant.
>>750508029Only when you include Dark Souls as a JRPG, which it is
>>750508476Great, the JRPGschizo has entered the chat. Bless this thread with infinity bumps, onigaishimasu.
>>750508363lol, come back when a JRPG is as fun as BG3
>>750508130The essay’s central flaw is that it turns broad tendencies into a rigid distinction between Japanese and Western RPGs without sufficient evidence.First, it conflates separate design elements. Narrative linearity, systemic complexity, customization, and player agency are not opposing philosophies. A game can have a linear story and deep mechanics, or an open world with limited meaningful choices. These features are not determined by national origin.Second, both categories contain enormous variety. Shin Megami Tensei, SaGa, and Final Fantasy differ considerably, just as Western RPGs do. Selective examples cannot establish a universal pattern.Third, correlation does not prove cultural causation. Hardware, budgets, technology, genre conventions, and creative decisions all shape game design. Attributing differences to national culture requires evidence that rules out plausible alternatives.Fourth, freedom does not automatically mean better design. Emergent systems can encourage experimentation but also create balance problems. Linear experiences can deliver strategic depth through meaningful constraints. Likewise, more mechanics do not necessarily produce deeper decisions.Ultimately, the essay fails to establish that these differences are uniquely national or reflect fundamentally opposing philosophies. A stronger analysis would compare specific design features across representative games and investigate their causes rather than assume them.The differences may be real, but their significance must be demonstrated, not presumed. National labels alone are not explanations.
>>750508029Epic Battle Fantasy 5
For me it’s FF9
>>750508658thanks Claude
>>750508029I only like the ones with sexy girls
>>750508130>>750508658Absolutely humiliated by based SI
>>750508029Pokémon is the objectively correct choice.
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>>750509094as long as they keep designing fuckable pokemon
>>750508130Icycalm is a retard, post refuted.
>>750508029The 10 best Jarpigs of all time in no particular orderYakuza 7 Shin Megami Tensei 4 (& Apocalypse)Persona 4Paper Mario: The Thousand Year DoorMario & Luigi: Superstar SagaFinal Fantasy 9Digital Devil Saga 2Chrono TriggerXenogearsDragon Quest 11 (but I have only played 1-6 and 11, so DQ 7 8 or 9 might be better I don't know)
>>750508658>Linear experiences can deliver strategic depth through meaningful constraints.The games that do this successfully are strategy games like Fire Emblem which the post acknowledges as good (that was written before awakening casualized the series). It is mostly the 4 niggas in a row turn based JRPG that is devoid of depth and meaningful player decision making.
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>>750508029SRPGs mog them so hard its not even funnySad they are not as popular
>>750508029>What would you consider a God-tier JRPG?SaGa Frontier, it's perfect in every wayBite sized scenarios, banging gameplay, systems out the ass, that shit cryptic as fuck too if you like trying to piece together how the crazy ass mechanics function.It's the JRPG for people who are sick of generic JRPGs
>>750508130>There is no reasons RPG with extensive dialogue trees couldn't have appeared mid 80The first declaration and it's a lie. There is actually a reason. Fucking memory limitations. Actually text was expensive back then (we're talking Wizardy 3, Ultima 4, that kind of things). You didn't have 30,000 words quests because that's 300 KB. On a computer that could have 500 KB of RAM. That must then compete with all the other things.Mid 80s RPGs are very terse due to that. "I welcome kill dragon." "Sure, want to kill dragons." "Good! Good!" Play fucking Ultima 4.
I like all RPGs from all over the world as long as there is no woke shit in them
>>750508130Nigga I ain't reading allat bro
>>750508130There is nothing to refute because the guy just doesnt understand the genre or its appeal he is a gameplay autist that only wants big brain gameplay at all times, he doesnt get that JRPGs are an anime experience and the gameplay doesnt matter that much, its about slaying the dragon with your big tit anime girl while amazing music blares in the background
>>750509551>the gameplay doesnt matter that much, its about slaying the dragon with your big tit anime girl while amazing music blares in the backgroundYou didn't actually read it. He says the battle system in an RPG isn't important, but because JRPGs provide no actual roleplaying, the battle system becomes important by necessity.>JRPGs are an anime experienceThe problem is that you have to sit through hours of dogshit battles to get to the anime. Xenogears is a perfect example of this, you have to sit through hours of the worst turn based combat put in a game just to get to the story you're actually interested in. Games like this should just be VNs.
>>750509723You also dont get it
>>750508130>jay ar pee gee's aren't actual roleplaying!faggot wrote that whole essay just to announce that he has crippling autism
>>750508029SMT Vengeance
>>750509094Yesno. You have to be specific with pokemon because anything past gen5 is relatively trash.
>>750509723I think most JRPGs have combat as the only part where the player has a little tiny bit of choice, it's the only gameplay it has. There are exceptions such as Golden Sun's puzzles (a much refreshing thing in the sub genre) but that's the thing. You don't build characters since the stats are all set in stone you just watch your party members stats automatically go up. You don't have choices in what to do in quests. You don't have multiple approaches to problems, where roleplaying exists ie. do you get past this obstacle with a sneaky manner (rogue) or you just bash the door open (warrior)? Everything is railroaded into combat, and even there the choice you have is minimal, it boils down to what, which party members to use? JRPGs are almost a walking contradiction of sorts, because the only gameplay you have is combat and often it is not deep enough to stay entertaining for 40hours+ of encounters, which are also often non-stop, be it random encounters or the way the original Trails in the Sky did, where you have an enemy in the map and it dashes towards you at 300km/h, in practice being the same shit as random encounters, they are not avoidable at all.
>>750510094>be retard and gets his way to avoid combat>reaches boss level check>gets absolutely mogged>ragequits and posts on /v/eddit that game bad
>>750510476JRPGger reading comprehension.
>>750510510>WRPGtroon retort
>>750510476>implying those games are hard at alllol, jarpigs are glorified visual novels with shit combat as filler, except VNs have far superior writing
>>750510604>I don't play gamesthe post
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>>750510957>chatJEETPEETEE
>>750511210Play Morrowind or Daggerfall.
>>750508029My favorite jrpg's are xenobladeX, etrian odyssey and pokemon.
>>750510957jarpigfags in shambles
>>750508363What's crpg, Chinese rpg? I haven't seen one of those
>>750512234Chad RPGs
>>750510094>You don't have choices in what to do in quests. >*boots up rpgmaker*>add choice to questbam. Debunked.
>>750508029Jrpg isn't a genre you newfag cunt
>>750508029I know it's boring, but I've been playing these since the 80s. DQXI S for me is the pinnacle of the genre. It's almost like a template. If any JRPG has ever come close to perfection, this is the one. I'm not saying that it's novel. Or that it does anything special. It's just so damn polished and perfect that even if it was a ball of shit, you'd have to sit there stunned that somebody managed to polish it until you could see your reflection in it.
>>750513837JRPG is the best genre you giganigger triplefaggot
>>750514080absolutely basedwestroons on suicide watch
>>750508029>What would you consider a God-tier JRPG?Black Souls 2Expedition 33There are also excellent gameplay-focused JRPGs, Bravely Default for instance, but they usually have shit stories.
>>750509723Xenogears is just a terrible game overall, the gameplay is dogshit and the story is Da Vinci Code tierGood music and nice graphics are wasted on that shit
>>750515453contrarian faggot tier post
>>750508029JRPGs usually have the lowest number of frustrating game design decisions.
I just finished FF7. I really enjoyed it. I will beat the Weapons and then maybe take a month off before starting FF8
Are these two worth playing? They got ai sloppa ports and was thinking of giving IU a try, since i liked The Last Remnant at the very least
>>750508029It's quite literally the opposite. It's probably the only genre where every game is trash made for faggots and fujos.
>>750516210Lol no don't waste your time
>>750508130im not reading all this seethe but im sorry that happened or good for you
>>750512234Computer RPG
>>750518195What if I play a Japanese RPG on a computer?
>>750508029zero/ao no kiseki and final fantasy IX
>>750518243You would be playing a console game on a computer
>>750508029I honestly really don't like them. It has to have a hook like monster catching or Metal Max Returns having Tank logistics to manage. Xenoblade X with the mechs, etc. I have tried to play Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, and a ton of other random ones and they are the most soul sucking non-game experiences I've ever had
