Can Capcom turn around the game?
>>750529541That was the last good Monster Hunter game.
This is why Activision never put old CoDs on sales, they're literally competing with their own games
>>750529541Yes, just add more browns and forced slow walk story sections and it will fix the game.
World was not good either but at least modern hardware can run it properly. If it ran just as shit as Wilds then there wouldn't be so many newfags looking at that mediocre movie with game through rose tinted glasses.Not with its lobotomized monsters that lack quality and quantity, incomplete weapons, botched multiplayer systems, and abhorrent dripfeed of content.
>>750530064World did run poorly on launch. Especially on console. Holy fuck the load times.But I still don’t understand how they got Wilds to run as poorly as it does while looking as bad as it does.
I'm still having a blast with Rise.
>>750529541This must be extremely frustrating to Capcom.
>>750529541>game that went on sale for 5 dollars outsells game that at most half offwhich game made capcom more money though
>>750529906yes and forced cutscenes are much better, worloid
>>750530348World and Rise sold more than Wilds before starting to get deep discounts.
>>750529541So the rule of thumb is to buy the vanilla version and avoid iceborne correct?
>>750529541Go woke go broke
>>750529541>Wilds launched to huge numbers by riding the coattails of it predecessors only for sales to collapse practically overnight>Game was so bad that it killed not only all of its own hype but was probably a major reason why Stories 3 flopped too>Consistent failure to fix performance issue despite repeated promises to do so eroded lot of good will the dev had with the few people who did like the game>Free updates consistently failed to bring players back, not even the return of Lagiacrus was enough >Zero interest in the Switch 2 port to the point it's been forgotten before even releasing>Expansion looks like pure anti-hype that continue to double down on thing nobody fucking liked and is exclusively bringing back old monster everybody is sick to death of sing>Getting mogged by World and Rise month after month despite a permanent price drop It's beyond fucked
>>750530479World is pretty "woke" too, it has ugly characters. Hell, the handler is so ugly that there are mods only to fix her face.
>>750530387nobody claimed the forced cutscenes were what made Worlds populartry to keep up, brownoid
>>750529541This will sell some copies, but not enough to turn it around
>>750530424There's no winning with World. It has a genuinely horrible base game content wise but is solid mechanically, whereas Iceborne adds a fuck ton of good content but also forces a horrible gimmick.
Base game>PS3 graphics>Every low rank monster dies in 2 hits>Every low rank monster deals 0 damage>Unskippable walking segments>Infinite restocking so it's impossible to die>Power Clash is literally just a 3 sec cutscene that wastes your time and doesn't do anything>No cat cooking>Weather system serves no purpose other than to make the game worse>Like 95% of set bonuses are useless>The "endgame" consists of hunting the same apexes because, for whatever reason, Capcom refuses to make every monster 9star tempered>9 star tempered monsters oneshot you and have more HP than Fatalis so G rank will feel like a cake walk>The "reward" for killing 9stars is gacha talismans that give you skills (even though we already have too many skills)>No HR final boss>Artian system makes 99% of weapons in the game useless (lmao)>Collaboration is not even a monster but some generic colorless robot>You can use NPC hunters on monsters but them carting doesn't count so it's literally just cheating>Underwater combat>Less monsters than MH2 and 4 in base game>No MH language>First flop in franchise's historyIs this the worst game of all time?G rank>Created by the director of Exoprimal (game no one ever played)>Gimmick that makes your weapon useless unless you use it>Overuse of Elder DragonsIt's over
>>750530202The secret is that the monhun team have always sucked at optimization but it never mattered much until world's and especially icebourne's initial pc release. After icebourne i swore off any monhun pc release. And guess what? The wilds ps5 release was completely fine. Not perfect, but serviceable. Had a good time, got multiple a rank arch temp pendants and gear and waiting on the expansion. Meanwhile the pc port is still not great even after multiple updates
>>750529541I actually like where Wilds ended up, LR is still too much of a cakewalk but the difficulty finds a good groove once you get to 8+ star quests and you actually get to fight monsters that pose a threat, and the monster variety got to a good place after all the title updates. It's not enough to get past people's initial impressions, but I don't think anything really can. I'm looking forward to Ascendance, though
>>750530659>The most anti-anime MH being sold together with the most anime MH.This is too bizarre.
>>750530405Realistically only accountants at capcom would know anything about that
>>750529541>Poo outsells crapWorld ruined the series with obnoxious forced cutscenes, gimmicky grapple hook mechanic, mindless spam gameplay, casualized "quality of life" mechanics that make it impossible to lose hunts, etc.Wilds did the exact same thing. Why do people prefer one over the other? They both SUCK.
>>750529541B-But autistic oldfag monster hunter vets told me World killed the series!?HOW IS THIS HAPPENINGSTOP SELL8NGSTOP PERFORMING WELLSTOP BEING THE MOST PLAYED MONSTER HUNTERMUH FREEDOM UNITENOOOOOOOOO
>>750531271In any case there is a impossible to refuse fact: At this rate Wilds will never outsell World (or even Rise) and this pisses off Capcom A LOT.
It's interesting that half of their top sellers are games that are at least 5 years old.This quarter, their "catalogue" sales, meaning everything that's not a new release, counted for over 87% (32M units) of their total sales despite fairly strong sales (4.68M units) of new stuff (pragmata, onimusha and dmc5 hunter edition).
>>750529906>>750529906Worlds success was pure luck. Bozo Tsujimoto clearly has no fucking clue why it was successful, and even after Wilds is still doubling down on the wrong thing.
>>750532903Or it's because junior wasn't the main person in charge of world. Sure, he's listed among the producers but most likely in a relatively lesser role and we know he took the highest spot for wilds.
>>750532389>It's interesting that half of their top sellers are games that are at least 5 years old.Not to disagree with your actual point, but just think about release timetables and you'll realise that "released in the last five years" is a pretty short list of games.
>>750529541>Can Capcom turn around the game?Ascendance might have some fun, but the first 20 hours are just awful to try and get someone new into Monhun, it's too boring
>>750530819>Created by the director of ExoprimalThey really should have just got rid of that bozo
>>750532389Longer dev times and plateauing graphical improvements means that back catalogs have super long legs these days.
>>750533528This first block of dumb storyshit really drags this game down. Everything else is forgivable to some extent, the low difficulty, the braindead bird, every weapon being focus mode combo loops 24/7, they tried to iterate and it didn't work, whatever, shit happens.However, the fact that I cannot play this multiplayer grindslop game's story mode in multiplayer without babysitting the process every step of the way is absurd. Makes the game look extremely poorly made and filtered friends that genuinely wanted to give this game a shot and fucked with everything else EXCEPT the hurdles to get multiplayer to work.At least let me watch cutscenes with the boys bro, what's the fucking harm?! What a dogshit experience.
>>750533528Ascendance is going to be exactly like the base game for the first 20 hours if not even worse, get real.
>>750534540It's crazy to me that capcom finally started fixing multiplayer issues with Monhun, only to make the next big release a single player moviegame for a huge chunk of time with unintuitive multiplayer lobbies
>>750534728I doubt that, they admitted they fucked up on the difficulty front with Wilds, same as DD2 and hardmode completely fixed that with the DLCThe issue is capcom has bad data interpreters, like some kind of localization division that just convinces them that if they don't make the game accessible to paraplegics then the game will sell 80% less copies
>>750532903I don't know why it was successful either. It was worse than 3U and 4U and trying to actually play multiplayer with my friends in the convoluted system was like dragging my balls through glass
>>750534953I really do genuinely hope that even if they don't make the story any harder, they at least give you CBT content to play immediately and properly ramp up to it. SavOmega might've unironically saved the lategame experience at the time, this type of game really needs proper "fuck you" quests to make the whole gearing loop not feel pointless.
>>750530819>Is this the worst game of all timeMaybe the worst MH game but Megaman X7 exists so it’s not the worst game.
>>750532389D3make is only a million behind Village, i wonder if it can actually manage to close the gap
I have accepted that Monster Hunter is dead. The team doesn't know its audience anymore and clearly doesn't give a shit in general
>>750536001The rift between the worst and best MH players widen with each game. If they make the story too hard, people will be demanding a refund.>B-But to get to Ascendance you have to at least have hunted Gore Magala who isn't that easyThey'll add defender armor to help with that.
>>750537270Another sad, pathetic post from a filtered casual. Add it to the pile of who gives a shit.
The Handler is still so ugly
I don't understand why people whine about the clutch claw. There are a small handful of monsters you genuinely need it for, and it adds utility besides that
>>750537341That's why I said>even if they don't make the story any harderI find it very unlikely they'll even consider filtering people during the story, but it would be nice to have postgame content that can offer players a challenge if they wish to be challenged.
>>750537513Autists struggle with new things
>>750537513They reduced hitzones across the board to incentivize you using it, and the reduction of hitzones also reduces/removes hitstop depending on what monster you are fighting. Not every monster gets to have a head hitzone value of Rathian where you don't have to care.So it is needless upkeep to make the game look, sound, and play how it used to before the claw was added.Anyone who says you can just ignore it is clearly an idiot because they are unable to notice how smacking the monster is overall worse after the claw changes. Worse sfx and vfx during the fight. In a game that already had questionable sfx (but good vfx because the hitstop was impossible to ignore).Someone who says just don't use it outs themselves as being a clueless idiot that thinks this solves all the problems.And lets not get get into the monsters stagger drooling because you're meant to claw them which ruins the flow of the fight. Another thing that can't be ignored.
