Your honest opinion of Super Paper Mario?
>>750603221I liked it, but not enough for a replay since.
>>750603221Paper Mario if made by Toby Fox. Really, the only thing missing is Peach and Nastasia being in a lesbian relationship with zero chemistry.
>>750603221best paper mario. i don't care for turnbased stuff
I never had a problem with it. Dont know why people shit their diapers over it
Interesting concept that doesn't lend itself to replaying. Splitting each world up into 4 parts was a mistake. None of the chapters are fun or memorable in the way the Glitz Pit or Shy Guy's Toy Box were.
>>750603590Even with turn based combat and RPG mechanics SPM would suck because it's a bunch of disjointed forgettable 2D sections with forgettable pixel style design. It lacks the adventure component of it
>>750604218Although "suck" might be a strong qualifier. It's okay, just not as good as the other ones.
If they completely went "fuck this RPG shit" and designed its mechanics and controls like a normal platformer, with nothing about its presentation changed, people would probably call it one of if not the best 2D Mario ever.
>>750603221Overhated, just as good as TTYD and 64
>>750603221If it were just a spinoff like it was intended to be and a true Paper Mario 3 came out on Wii as well, it would be ok
>>750603221It's ok
>>750603221The story is ok, the gameplay is dogshit but i appreciate how weird it is
Feels like there's not much reason to go back to each world once you're done with it and that's a detriment.
>>750603221cringekino
>>750603221Amazing game that deserved much more credit when it first launched.
>>750605564>Twenty minutes of pressing -> Soul
>>750603534>the only thing missing is Peach and Nastasia being in a lesbian relationship with zero chemistry.Lmfao 100% spot on. Toby's crippling yuritardation really drags down his character writing every time it crops up.
>>750605564This is pretty cool actually
Being late to Sonic games, I was baffled that they were starting to like Sonic 06's serious story line while ripping Lost World to shreds, growing up with Paper Mario as my favorite game, hating Super Paper Mario at first, then seeing the games become a parody of themselves, I now completely understand how Sonic fans have felt all those years.
Blind bought at Gamestop because I was a kid and was like woah cool new Paper Mario. Beat it in a weekend and never touched it again. Can’t remember anything about it, really.Must’ve been baby shite..
>>750603221It's the best game Nintendo ever made, but few are ready for that conversation.
>>750604506Absolutely delusional. It's a shitty platformer and a shitty Mario RPG. The worst of both worlds.
>>750609651It's up there, but it's not my no one. It's not even the best Mario game that would be Bowser's Inside Story.
>>750603221"That Part" the game
>>750610141>SpoilerBased>>750610209What part? The right right left left left right or the wheel one?
>>750603221Fucking great. Not top of its class like the two preceding games, but still a game I remember very fondly.
>what if we force the player to memorize/write down a huge sequence>what if we force the player to hold right for 20 minutesit felt pretty lynchian at times, which I guess endears it to certain peopleunfortunately the gameplay is trash, don't know why they were so afraid of turn-based combat
>>750610209the retarded space maze, retarded underworld section, or retarded mine section?>>750610862I thought the gameplay was ok but I wouldn't praise it. I don't like turn based combat at all so I would really dislike the game if they went that route.I liked the game but boy some of the sections were chores. I gave up on trying to 100% it.
>>750610141Hate to admit it, but i kinda agree. Yoko Shimomura immediately elevates every game into the highest tiers of kino. I think Nintendo as a whole peaked at the final battle with Fawful, everything they've made since has been a steady decline.Nintendo's golden age begins with Super Mario RPG and ends with BIS, that much is certain. The Mario RPGs in between all being spikes of pure kino that represent Nintendo at their very best.
>>750603221Pretty much killed the Mario franchise as a whole and birthed the Mario Mandate which we're still dealing with to this day. Kensuke Tanabe needs to go to hell.
>>750611429>Nintendo's golden age begins with Super Mario RPG and ends with BIS, that much is certain. The Mario RPGs in between all being spikes of pure kino that represent Nintendo at their very best.Ultra based.
>>750603221It sucks, everything positive about it has a big "BUT" >The combat is actually a good ideaBUT>They still mantain the shame sloppy physics as the original paper mario games that was never intended to have so much foccus into jumping. You don't get enough air for consecutive jumps jumping from enemy from enemy and the air control is terrible. Plus most of the bosses don't require any strategy other than "spam BOMB">The world and art design is actually pretty neatBUT>The hub world is a lazily designed cramped tower where with no interconnecting parts that requires you to be in elevators 90% of the game. Plus all the NPCs look too samey for you remember who and where >The worlds are very coolBUY>They go downhill right after Bitlands, durectly followed by a bad space level world and a lazy combat foccused world of reused content >The humor is funny, so much meta jokesBUT>...Oh! This was not a joke actually, we really need you to bring paper to write this down and imput this looong ass code, and we will make you do it more than once... BECAUSE FUNNY!
I hate it with all my heart. Probably one of the only games I truly hate, like I would erase it from existence if I could.
>>750610209Great description. So many utterly tedious and intentionally obnoxious parts that aren't even worth it because the parts that aren't that annoying aren't particularly good either. There's not a single worthwhile level in the whole game. It's all all just vague "vibes" created by overly self-aware dialogue and a tryhard storyline that could impress deviant art kids who have never experiend a proper fictional storyline before.
>>750613609I remember remember replaying the Mr. L robot fight, i discovered that you could jump on the missiles he shoots and i was like "Oh! It's just like in other plataformers where you jump on the projectiles to get air and reach the enemy's top". But no, the game's physics won't allow you to get enough air to reach the top of the robot, the real strategy as i discovered and even checked online was just "use the bomb guy a lot in front of the robot and win"
>>750603221The worst paper mario. Yes, worse than sticker star.
i like it more since i'm nostalgic for it
Why doesn't Nintendo make more outright games with darker themes than games with dark subtle themes?
>>750603221underrated. great game, better than mario rpg
The last edgy Mario
>>750616535Oh my God! Shut the fuck uuuuup! For the love of christ watch go watch a non-animated movie or tv series that never had toyline available on Wal-Mart
>>750604290THIS stupid little bitch is almost 100% what turned me into a lolicon at an early age. Why did Nintendo need to have a section with a bossy, wealthy, brat who also dressed in numerous different fetish outfits in a Mario game? This collection of squares contributed significantly to what my impressionable mind formed as the perfect model of a woman.
>>750603221I really wish someone would revisit hybridizing RPG and Platformer mechanics. That was a cool idea I haven't seen done anywhere else.
>>750603221TTYD but worse across the board.
>>750603221Lackluster platformer pretending to be an RPGShallow gimmicky characters with just enough characterization to get the plot moving.Abhorrent character designGeneric as fuck backstory. We never so much as catch a glimpse of the ancient tribesGeneric cookie-cutter Romeo & Juliet plotVillain could have just killed the heroes anytime (Dimentio literally kills them once, doesn't go finish them off)
>>750620374nigger
>>750616535>more outright games with darker themes than games with dark subtle themesSAAAAAAAAAAAAR>>750617447Funny how people who always talk about how "This cutesy kids game looks harmless on the surface but it actually has a DARK AND COMPLEX story" never show any interest in stories that don't need a disguise.
The definition of "Cringekino." A fanfic given a full budget and talented artists. It's basically the most soulful game ever made.
>>750620374All true. SPM sucks.>>750620453Seething faggot.
>>750620490double nigger
>>750603221The beginning of the end for this IP and a game that loves to waste your time even more than the worst of the previous two games before it.Perhaps the die was cast when Miyamoto let Ryota Kawada direct the series, he made sure the series would never be mistaken for a work of RPG that meant anything to anybody, just rediculously profitable games that outsell anything that has "soul". Super Paper Mario might be anti mandate(or not), but its certainly the anti rpg series on the wii in its refusal of wonder, beauty, and excitement. no one wants to face that fact. Now, thankfully, they no longer have to.>A-atleast it was good though"No!"The Writing is dreadful, the gameplay was terrible, As I played i noticed every time a character went for a battle, they were platforming instead of taking turns.I began marking on the back of an envelope every time there wasn't an RPG battle. I stopped only after I had marked the envelope several dozen times. I was incredulous. Ryota's mind is so governed by cliches and dead metaphors that means he has no other style of writing. Later i read a lavish, loving review of Super Paper Mario. It said something to the effect of, "if these kids are playing Super Paper Mario at 11 or 12, then when they get older they will go on to play Fez. And they were quite right. they were not being ironic. when you play "Super Paper Mario" you are, in fact, trained to play Fez.
>>750620623lmao get fucked loser
>>750620697wait did mods actually delete my copypasta that i've been spammed for years now?oh well, it was fun while it lasted.
>>750611429>and ends with BIS, that much is certainBIS is worse than DT, and Brothership is great.
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>>750603221better than reddit year door but worse than 64
>>750603221It was my first Paper Mario game so I like it, just as PiT was my first Mario & Luigi game. I miss the weirder/darker elements in Nintendo games.
>>750621109brothership gets pretty dark near the end
>>750603221boring gameplay
>>750621378Unfortunately true. I tried to replay it a while back and didn’t get far. The gameplay is not engaging in the slightest, and the jumping feels overly stiff and dull which is egregious considering it’s a *Mario* game.Using an engine designed for turn based rpgs and making a platformer out of it was never going to work well. It’s a bit crazy to me that they actually made the TTYD Bowser intermission stages into a full game. I respect the boldness even if the end result was half baked.
>>750620742No, you're just retarded, i'm sorry.
>>750621324No one's playing your faggot game, retard.
>>750621109>that toad gets transformed into a shroob mushroom>it remains like that until the endingOne of the most horrifying parts of the gameSpeaking of which, I was massively disappointed that the game ends at Shroob Castle. I thought there was gonna be a part 2 where Elder Princess Shroob flees into the present and takes over the present-day Mushroom Kingdom, requiring you to revisit all the locations in the present
Sticker Star makes me wish I was playing TTYD instead.Super Paper Mario makes me wish I was playing Mario 3 instead.
>>750623515The dungeons already drag, especially the final one, so I think it's fine the game ends there. But they should have made better use of time travel along the way. Going back in time barely matters. Why even bother? For a while I thought they were setting up the final boss to be Shroob Princess from the future (Shroob Queen?) but no, that doesn't have anything to do with time travel either.Though honestly I can forgive almost every sin PiT commits because I love a good boss fight. The encounters are boring but I can just skip them and make the bosses even rougher
I'd rather eat a shitdog than play any nintendo game
More fun as a kid than as an adult. Stuff like having to write down the order for hitting blocks in 5-1 is really funny and novel when you’re used to more standard Mario platformers like NSMB but these days it’s tedious. 2-3 is still really funny though and playing that chapter for the first time is a really good memory. The actual moment to moment gameplay loop is very clunky and has little replay value, it’s too easy, items are kinda useless, and the 3D gimmick is never used in particularly interesting ways. The story/writing is at least memorable unlike a lot of what Nintendo puts out; characters like Francis or npcs who occasionally drop the usual Paper Mario snark lines are still very entertaining. Great soundtrack too.
It's kino. I was afraid of it when I was like 7 and gave my copy back to gamestop. I finally finished it last year and enjoyed it.
I liked the 2000s-era chuuni edge shit like Mr. L and the jester villain. Felt like something straight out of a sprite comic. But I don't remember anything about this game beyond that. They should take all those OCs and remake/reimagine this game as an actual adventure RPG like 64/TTYD.
>>750603221it's dogshit
>>750610209Merlee's Mansion infuriated the fuck out of me because I couldn't figure out the puzzle. Putting Mario in a hamster wheel was a humiliation ritual
>>750625039That 2000s chuuni edge is what gaming is missing.Everything's so fucking irony poisoned. I want mystical battles between light and dark and the cessation of existence. I want things that seem way deeper than they actually are with dramatic piano and harp music.That shit's pure SOVL
>>750625039It was just a corny love story between the children of 2 tribes. He became an emo and read a prophecy book at the library, then threw an omnicidal tantrum. Luckily, there was a conveniently written counter-prophecy that undid it
