All they have to do is copy the West some more.
>>750794032Crazy how hard waifu sims 1 shot wrpgs and wrpgsfags.
if you reply to this shitty thread I hope ye household be given a thousand curses
>>750794147persona?
>>750794032
Japan still makes Wizardry and Ultima clones.The west does not. The west doesn't even make games anymore, just shitty movies.
>>750794032>Western RPGs Make your own story in this world we have created >Japanese RPGLet me tell you a story these are both ok, why the fuck are you trying to make it seem like one is better than the other?
>>750794215baldurs gate 3?
>doesn't list a single western gamethis isn't even coherent enough to quality as bait
>>750794637>JRPGfag can't readHow ironic.
>>750794032Didn't read, try again next time ranjeet
>>750794356>b-both are goodDon’t waste my time with this wishy-washy fence-sitter bullshit, try having an opinion for once
>>750794032>implying the west makes games like top panel anymore
SaGabros win again
>>750794356If you think the latter is good you don't like RPGs
>>750794032Western RPGs are for the autists with boundless creativity, Japanese RPGs are for the autists who struggle with creativity and clamp onto other sources for entertainment. Not meant as an insult, just a manner of fact that some people just can't self-insert and instead want an experience tailored around specifics. It's also why there's differing levels, such as older JRPGs having choices, like Tales of or FF, and limiting builds amongst weapon and character classes.
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>>750794032JRPGs are only good when the developers are aware that the gameplay is a simplified version of tabletop RPGS and thus throw in their own mix and shit into it. If you play a JRPG for the story or the characters I have to assume you're legit autistic.
I'd like Jarpigs more if the gameplay wasn't just picrel for 100+ hours.
>>750794946Literally all of the good ones like Chrono Trigger and Final Fantasy 6 fall into the latter.
>>750794032jrpgs are for autists, wrpgs are for troons to roleplay, next question
>Chrono Trigger>Final Fantasy 6>Good...
>>750795427wrpgs don't have good stories aside from something like planescape torment. They just have better prose, but 99% of them are just bargain bin pulp sword and sorcery stories
>>750796313You're right but I'll take a shitty narrative sandbox to roleplay in rather than a narrative straight forward line.
JRPGs are for people who can't picture an apple in their head, Western RPGs are for white men teeming with Faustian spirit.
>>750796208sounds like both are for autist
WRPGs are just a poor attempt at replicating the table top experience.
>>750794032what??? also why's ffxv there? you gotta at least try that bro it's peak dont listen to the hatersin fact that much hate shoulda made you play it
i prefer an intentional and focused experience desu.the west over-values variance and most of the time "choice" is detrimental because you have to design for every possibility. So the less popular ones end up being at odds with the design.
>>750796667jrpg is for the asocial math and science autist who just wants to be left alone with his computerwrpg is for the professional victim autist who screeches about society, traps himself in his own head, and believes trooning out will grant him the new identity he needs to finally be happy (it won't)
>>750796951>most of the time "choice" is detrimentalBugman mindset
>>750796951exactly im so tired of choice-based gamesnot every game gonna be the witcher 3 with multiple endings/outcomes and even that game had endings where the narrator just tells you how your choices changed some things while a slideshow played
>>750794032>a game where you can make entire games from scratchwhy do i have to pay for it? you have to pay me for if i'm making the asset
>>750797119focusing on words you deem heretical instead of understanding the greater point is actual bug behavior. Choice itself isn't bad, but in most (W)RPGs it ends up being dead-weight and dead-content because either1. Each new option blows up exponential outcomes which means development and effort is spread more thin across more content2. You have to flatten the outcomes down to a handful so ultimately most choices didn't even matterChoice is supposed to add value, but more often it just detracts value.
>>750794032the immortal npcs and fixed quests are my number 1 issue, sometimes you just don't care and you just blast an npc because you didn't like him. I'm stuck playing crpgs for that reason. I'm not asking to genocide the world, just give me some agency...
>>750797192Its literally about taste, You can like western, jrpg , like both putting them against each other is incel thinking
>>750797397You're still thinking like a bugman.Player agency and systemic depth will always beat linear design in video games, and as technology progresses further, this will become undeniable. If JRPGs actually had good narratives, maybe you’d have a leg to stand on. But they don't, lol.
>>750794032>man is the real monster!>here, have a shit final boss with a dude with slightly better HP and status
>>750794032>ah you want to fight the cool giant boss? too fucking bad, sit on the cuck chair and watch
>>750798631>Player agency and systemic depth will always beat linear design in video gamesagency exists in both, but "systemic depth" in practice just means "here's your sandbox, design your own fun", which isn't interesting or what video games should be.
I just find turn-based combat to be excruciatingly simple and bad tbqhwyf
>>750798631That agency is meaningless in implementation though. The systems usually are way too general to be interesting. You can be creative with anything. If I wanted to be creative, I'd write a book, make a game, paint, etc, instead of playing with shallow choice systems and mechanics generalized to the point of insipidity.
>>750794032>A world simulation game where every single minuscule element of the world is accounted for and simulated and interactive down to the individual organs of the cats wandering aroundWhat game does this? I can think of examples for all of them except this.
>>750798759>agency exists in bothChoosing what weapon you use in a scripted boss fight? I guess, but it's not on par with WRPGs.>but "systemic depth" in practice just means "here's your sandbox, design your own fun", which isn't interesting or what video games should be.This is the exact type of narrow minded shit only a bugman could think of. Faggots with your mindset are what's holding back gaming.Seriously, how mindbroken do you have to be to start complaining about player choice, lol.
>>750799426>Nuh-uh >Nuh-uh >ad-homimpressive stuff from the big-brained WRPG players
>>750799426>Faggots with your mindset are what's holding back gaming.The fuck are you on about?
>>750796758And that's gay as fuck anyway. Tabletop games are part of the holy trinity of the basedlennial experience along with craft beer and cuckolding.
>>750799517>No argumentI'll take that as your concession that your jarpig brain is just too small to handle a real RPG.
>>750799774anon you don't even understand that you haven't supplied an argument to begin with, nor challenged anything i've brought up.You're just equating choice and freedom with inherent / self-evident value which is NOT true.
>>750794032>All those games below are considered RPGsIf that's the case, then all Call of Duty games are RPGs as well
>>750799620>The fuck are you on about?It's the truth. JRPGs and Snoy movie games are cut from the exact same cloth. Same goes for their fans.>>750799935>anon you don't even understand that you haven't supplied an argument to begin with, nor challenged anything i've brought up.I have you just refuse to listen.>You're just equating choice and freedom with inherent / self-evident value which is NOT true.I just can't take you seriously when you're this adamantly wrong and refuse to stake out a real position beyond "player choice is le bad"And you haven't proven a single thing I've said wrong, you're just plugging your ears and screaming nonsensically because this discussion requires a level of critical thinking that you completely lack. I'm not gonna argue with someone acting like a retarded manchild.
>>750799225Dorf?
>>750799426>>750798631>emptiness is... le good!your favorite game is minecraft right
>>750800998Man shut the fuck up.
Also, you haven't even outlined what you think video games should be from this post >>750798759though, I'm sure whatever you're thinking is completely wrong.
>>750794032Those top examples don't describe any existing games
>>750802025Jarpigs don't play videogames, so it's understandable you don't know about them.
>>750802120Name them
>>750802120Let me guess. New Vegas, Minecraft, Fallout 1, Dreams, Spore, Baldurs Gate 2Either those descriptions are lying or I'm wrong about the games
>got so raped in /vrpg/ that is now daily seething in /v/why are WRPGtroons like this?
>>750802025youve never played minecraft or dwarf fortress?
>>750802520You can't make complex vehicles in Minecraft, and no
JRPGs will always be better than the elfen dwarf slop westerns put outPROOF https://youtu.be/Hr-zTJtmccA?si=Wi1SLGw5u33ABRdp&t=584
Do people even like wrpgs? It looks like they just don't like JRPGs and use the Ws as a way to make their hatred look rational. Have you ever seen a WRPG thread?
