Japanese TV uses D93 for its white colour. Doesn't matter if it's mario or AC7, NES or PS5. For half a century, Westerners have been playing games and watching anime and films with a screwed up colour palette. We use D65 universally.If you've got a Japanese brand TV, there's a good chance its temperature default is D93. D65 is usually Warm or Warm2, so it gets worse the better calibrated your TV is. /a/ and /tv/ viewership is also corrupted. What exactly is currently going on inside the digital content pipelines of Japanese game studios is a mystery.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NTSC-J https://www.eizoglobal.com/library/basics/color_temperature_on_an_LCD_monitor/index.html
>Colors are slightly offbalance>YOU'RE CONSUMING JAPANESE MEDIA WRONGok bro. Relax.
>>750805690>Warm or Warm2Those presets make everything look like an overly dark orange mess. I almost always change my shit to cool/neutral with the color filters off. Why people want to watch their media with a blue/orange overlay tacked on is beyond me.
ima need a side by side comparison jpeg, my nigga.
>you didn't beat the game because the colors on your TV were wrongNow this is based levels of shitposting
>>750805868On Panasonic OLEDs, Warm2 is exactly how the web is supposed to look.>>750805927I'm tinkering in photopea.
>>750805690It's only the case for older games, pre HD era. Japan switched to the Western standard when they introduced HD television.You can actually tell because games developed for D93 have a reddish taint when played in D65, and D65 games a blueish taint when played in D93.
>>750806127They use rec 709 but are still using D93 with it.
I need practical examples to see the difference
I don't even watch all of my anime in the correct aspect ratio, you think I give a fuck about white balance?
>>750806486Here's FFX
>>750806884Oh I never knew. Thanks for bothering to show the difference
>>750806884Damn...
>>750805868there's like a "filmmaker mode" I believe which is supposed to be with all the shit turned off.that's what I've been using forever, any of the other presets look like they have a yellow/blue filter over the screen.
>>750805690Now you've got me curious, in the original legend of Zelda what color does that make link when he gets the blue ring? in america it's almost a periwinkle, is it more blue on their colors?
which is correct? Japanese will see the second.
>>750806884ok so they prefer warmer colors? it does look nice
>tfw already liked 9300k and cooler tones in generalfuck now everybody's gonna think i'm a weeb
>>750807756The opposite.
>>750807438>>750807756They have a lot more MELANIN in their eyes (macula) which absorbs blue. On the other hand, there is chromatic adaptation. Who knows what this means for different humans? light eyes can see more shades of blue in very dark settings.
>>750807839I use 10,000, it's a nice round number.
>>750807892>Have blue eyes>Still prefer cooler colors on my monitorYou niggys wish you could see as much blue as me
Huh, I never knew that. I've always preferred whiter/higher K lights, even in my house. I can't stand piss filter bulbs.
>>750805690I always keep my screen at 35k since blue light is gay.
chatgpt shotgunned the math so these pics slightly underrepresent the difference (9100k)>>750808361disgusting.
>>750807892thank you, that's really cool. It's a lot closer than I'd have thought
>>750808640Chatgpt fucked the math so that example is like 8500k or something.I'll get a proper pipeline and make broader examples for other boards soon
>>750808728Either way it's something I'd never thought of. I might be a little bit autistic but this might breathe some new life into older games seeing the way they were 'meant' to be seen.
supplemental coveragehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBiMM1Hx2Hw
>warm2>f.lux turned on>brightness at 10/100Yep, it's gaming time.
>>750805690>from the makers of you eat sushi wrongit's getting a bit tiring
OP, prove to me your monitor is calibrated to 6500k before you try to show me these differences.
>TV:|>TV, Japan:O
>>750806884>>750807489Top looks better
>>750807489>>750806884Bottom looks exhausting to stare at for hours.
>>750809320Here is is, Warm2 unchanged from the factory. 7 year old Panasonic.
Sorry OP you're wrong.D93 was the referenced specification for old SDTV broadcast standards.It may technically be true, but only apply to games older than like 1998.You posting ACE7 and FFX is gay retard shit.Your premise is also gay and retarded. It would imply the japanese have 9300k factory set screens and monitors when they all adhere to bt.709 standard.sorry, the idea might be true for pre gen 6 games, it's not true for anything else
>>750805690nigger 95% of people played games on garbage CRT TVs with composite video in a poorly lit room, nobody would have noticed the difference
>>750807489>>750806884>>750807892it's a little less saturated and that's itholy nothingburger, kys
>>750812140the civilized world used a superior connector.
>>750805690Sorry man, I'm not autistic enough for this.
>>750811972>It would imply the japanese have 9300k factory set screens and monitors when they all adhere to bt.709 standard.That's the point. They're doing 709 but with D93. What exactly their current digital asset production workflows are remain a mystery. For video, bet on D93. multiplatform games? Unclear.
>>750812314>civilizedSo civilized there are still people who record in 50fps PAL to youtube despite analog broadcast and its limitations not being a thing for almost 15 years.Retarded, more like.Everytime I see a E*ro on youtube and see it's 50fps video I downvote and report the channel for terrorism.
>>750812276It's an erroneous underestimate.
>>750812394No, they aren't.The japanese changed to D65 with the bt.709 and HDTV standards.D93 was only for NTSC. They haven't used it in over 20 years."The point" is that technically, older jap movies and games should have the screen set to 9300.Which is great information! I appreciate learning this.But don't post anything from newer than 2005 and tell people that its not supposed to be 6500k.
>>750812407thats a japanese connector.and either way, scart was better too.
schizo
>>750812456>weh no, no its japan--no it isn't stfuyou're probably french tooI should report your posts for mental terrorism and disinformation against the childrenhow're those Chat Control act laws treating you pussies?
Everything modern uses HDR now
>>750812314europoors also played whatever scraps were chosen to be localized on 50 Hz TVs with fucked up audio while 60 Hz GODS were trading nonstop kino vidya with friends every month lmao
>>750812505meds
>>750812407>>750812549I was so fucking pissed when I found out about NTSC, PAL and the display rate limitations.
>>750812456How can you tell JP21 vs SCART? I thought the connector was identical just with a different pin-out?
>>750812445The japanese TVs are still 9300k in Normal. rec 709 requires manually changing to another setting. So, Japanese broadcast still uses D93 while adopting the remaining details of the standard. It's reasonable for you to guess that they are using D65 because of digital broadcasting, but you are likely mistaken. If you didn't know about NTSC-J, you probably don't have any specific information about the actual japanese current practice.
>>750812693I can tell because I posted it after googling it :^)
>>750812717It's just wrong. let it go
>>750805690Wrong. If you calibrate your TV, you'll always have warm colors. This is the faggiest post on /v/ right now.
Is this the next thing "enthusiast" fags are gonna be talking about. Where's the 45 minute video essay about how I'm viewing games inauthentically?
>>750812907https://www.arib.or.jp/english/std_tr/broadcasting/desc/tr-b28.html>D93 is used as a reference in NTSC 525 system in Japan. The reference white in the standard of Rec. ITU-R BT 709 and SMPTE274M is D65. In the actual program production, NTSC 525 system and HDTV 1125 system co-exist. It is desirable that the color temperature of a monitor is unified under the same environment in operation.This is ambiguous, but you do get the sense that production monitoring and end users are both using D93.
>>750812445Jap TVs are only D65 in movie mode.
