Bow down to your dark lord!Why is there no holy enchant on Satanachia weapons? Missed opportunity.
devs vastly underestimated player's ability to beat perfect snach. I know death can hop in discord call but enemies needed sephiroth tier health.
>>750844906Well, there should be a tradeoff between battle frenzy and self-enchant magic element scaling
unmoored world is so frigging comfy with hard mode corrupted monsters spawns, the new dungeons, better bestiary mod, the adventurer's guild mod, cities unevacuated and mostly holding the line, and that mod that removes red tint eye rape, as well as norgen where you can rest and take short breaks without timer consequenceFeels so much better than my first playthrough on release
>Just appraised around 300 relics, most lvl3>Only a few pieces better than my Lost Rites dragonforged sets, absolutely garbage skills and perksFuck. Time to advance the story so I can eventually get lvl4 relics.
>>750845748Yeah I wish the end game had more stuff the relic system feels kinda superfluous since you just fight the same things with little variation
Finished norgen and picked up the animeit's not that good but it has its moments when women's dragons really get dogma'd
>>750849790It's shit but it has titties so it's something
I just finished DD2 which I enjoyed very much but I decided to replay DD1 and it feels so much smoother, it's insane. DD2 characters control as if they are moving through jelly in comparison.
is the base game really that bad, i've been thinking about picking it up but everyone here seems to despise it
>>750849790>Portraying goblins as anything but a mild threat.>>750850516The gameplay takes getting used to but it's good but really easy after a certain point. The worst part about DD2 is the story and the music. The latter can be modded out but it's insane how breakneck the story is and how little development the characters get.A lot of the people that hate it are a small but loud minority. The prevailing opinion is that it's just like the first game: very flawed and needed more time in the oven but good otherwise. The DLC, the optimization fixes and hard mode go a long way in fixing the problems with the base game. It's not perfect now but a lot more enjoyable than it was on launch.
>>750850516/v/ is being histrionic. base game is fine. the main quest is basically ignorable for 99% of your playtime.
>>750850516Its great to mid. Once reach Bakbattahl (around 60-70% completion mark) and the new zone novelty wears off, exploration becomes a slog and the story falls off a cliff. The lack in enemy variety coupled with the fact that you can't walk 5 feet without triggering another fight becomes really fucking tiring. Luckily once the Bakbattahl portion of the story wraps up the game picks up steam again (in terms of exploration, story not so much). Its a good to great game for one playthrough but the lack of enemy variety and mediocre story & characters weights it down depending how much stock you personally put into those aspects.The DLC is really good through. I haven't finished Norgan yet but its safe to say the DLC is by far my favorite DD2 content, might even be my favorite DD content period.
>>750844906do NOT tell me that THIS is the DD2:DA equivalent of DAEMEON FROM DD1:DApls DONT, PLEASE.
>>750851674it's not.
>>750851674it isn't. that's just a pumped up dullahan serving as the boss in a decent little dungeon.
>>750851674That's a corrupted dullahan you dingusDA2 has a kino final boss
>>750851845>corrupted dullahanKind of hard to say a ghost can be corrupted. It's like putting sugar in your gas tank and deciding to switch strain to fruit punch
Do you think we'll get another expansion or Capcom will immediately begin production on DD3 with KINOshita as director? Or will the franchise get sent to the Capcom rape basement.
>>75085250280% of capcoms revenue is kinoGOD and rezzy.
>>750852646Has monster slop really fallen off?God i hope so
>>750852502Depends if Capcom thinks base DD2 is too cursed to keep building upon.
>>750853087It probably is, it's not worth it to add mystic knight and strider and more shit to DD2, it got elevated from a 4/10 to a 7/10 with the dlc, they should just make sure DD3 is a 8/10 from the start
I generally doubt capcom can crank out open world games, though they keep hinting that they have capacity in various interviews for their other games. I want DD2 with more slop, but I don't mind them making something new from DD2 assets.
>>750853342Norgan sized world with large level sized dungeons would be a good mix
>>750852502Unless they add another digit to the stats of everything or otherwise makes it “impossible” to use Norgan gear, I don’t think the game has any mechanical space left for a new expansion. There’s too much fun broken shit in the game now.
>>750853207The DLC is good but I have no idea how someone could consider base game 4/10 and DLC 7/10 they are really not that different it’s just more DD2
Co op plsPls I ned
>>750853747It's more just how barebones base DD2 is, Dark arisen 2 wraps it up into a decent 7/10 package
>>750853842I would never give something that I liked and wanted more of a 4/10 lol. Even calling the DLC a 7/10 is being retardedly critical.
>>750853751just play friendslop like monhun, the first person MMO with online created pawns feeling is the point of DD
>>750854007I didn't like base DD2 at all, in fact i hated it so much i never finished it until 2 days before norgan dropped
The dragon made me gay again
>base game everything but killing grigori>norgan/lost rites dungeons>kill grigori>unmoored lost rites dungeonsIs this the optimal way to play?
>>750854429You'll dab on the UM dungeons with Norgan gear too easily.
>>750854429>basegame -> godsbane>visit norgan -> ferrystone back to vermund>(resting in norgan does not advance unmoored time)>all lost rites -> unmoored lost rites >dragonforge all unmoored gear>norgan -> onwardsshrimple
>>750854626Are normal lost rites accessible in unmoored?
>>750853751>>750853751There's a mod for that™ https://www.nexusmods.com/dragonsdogma2/mods/1479
>>750854663I haven't verified. I did all i could pre-unmoored, unmoored my world, then did the rest.
>>750852502Literally who knows?Capcom flipflops between sabotaging this franchise constantly, but not killing it either. They should just make their mind up.
>>750852502DD3 will be similar to Recettear in its gameplay. The main character will be Fournival.
Have you been a responsible arisen and taken your boys to the hotspring after the harsh cold clime of norgan?
Me and the alt-chick baddies I pulled by being autistic (I can fix them)>>750853842There's a lot of content in DD2. Base DD1 is objectively more barebones than base DD2. Quality is another is due entirely. I enjoyed base DD2 especially during the Unmoored World section of the game and DA2 .>>750854429Honestly, just beat the base game and then do the Lost Rites, Norgan up to lv 2 equipment, Unmoored Lost Rites and then finish Norgan when you get the first chance in NG+.
>>750855237>Base DD1 is objectively more barebones than base DD2.Absolutely not, bloated map with copypasted goblins and saurians aside
>>750855330Like the first fucking game. Literally all of the Estan Plains is just goblins and Saurians, with some bandits interspersed here and there. Or the lead up to the Mountain Pass, or Manamia trail or the bandit's hideout or most places in Gransys. Either your memory is failing you or you don't remember the first game had the exact same problem you accuse DD2 of.
>>750855482It's do much worse in 2, are you just gonna ignore the last third of 2 just being empty walking sim bullshit?They had a blue moon tower esque building but it was a hallway with no enemies, the talos chase was a walking sim hallway, there is no final dungeon before you fight grigori or any buildup, you just walk through a hallway and fight the final boss, there is fucking 0 memorable level design in base 2, it's all just hallways and open world monsters loitering around
>>750855646>It's do much worse in 2, are you just gonna ignore the last third of 2 just being empty walking sim bullshit?The last third of DD2 contains the unmoored world, which is unironically the best part of the base game both from a story and actual gameplay standpoint. That's when the game throws the gloves off and starts throwing the toughest enemies at you and you have to race against the clock to save the citizens of each town from the Corrupted Purgerors or whatever they're called.It's literally DD1's post game done right. Everything before that is on par with DD1 minus the characters and music being a lot less interesting, but the last third of base DD2 is the best part of the game.
Hopefully if they make a 3rd game they bring back a lot of the unique features from 1 like the localized fire on large monstershttps://youtu.be/sNXRI-zLaHk
>>750855819the wyrmhunt quests blow the stuff you do for brant out of the water if you want to compare apples to apples
>>750855819>It's literally DD1's post game done right.Fucking lol.You fight like 2 gorechimeras and the questionable pink dragons and then you are forced to finish the gameThe everfall had every monster in the game and even new ones and you can farm wakestones for as long as you want.The unmoored only appeal now is that it has the dlc dungeons
>>750855646>I play DD for the story
>>750855985Name one new everfall monster.
>>750855987I didn't mention story once?
DD1 got a co-op mod yesterdayhttps://www.nexusmods.com/dragonsdogma/mods/1182
>>750856054retard
>>750856038Evil eye?Gargoyles?iron golems?Giant undead?Hellhounds if you want to count the final dungeon as part of the everfall
>>750855987I play DD for the old English Aught naught aught
>>750856110Seethe no argument faggot
>>750856148>[reskin i like] good>[reskin you like] badgreat talk
>>750850516It starts out amazing but gets old very fast because just like every open world game, the world is 10x bigger than it should be for no reason and it doesn't have anything actually interesting in it. No dungeons, no unique enemies, 1 cool thing to find that was marketed to hell and back so you already know it exists (the sphinx). The quests are also all universally terrible with zero reason to do them, and there are no memorable characters. Even worse, there are some REALLY fucking shockingly badly written and voice acted characters.This is all in stark contrast to DD1 that was carried almost entirely by its characters and the few cool setpieces it had. The main story also completely shits the bed in the latter half in MGSV-like fashion, I cannot understate how bad it is, it has the telltale stench of a game that was hastily cobbled together from concept scraps and rushed out the door a full year or more before its intended release date. The DLC is so much more competently made it really exacerbates all these issues too, so now the base game comparatively is like playing one of those shitty undercooked new lands mods for Skyrim.All that being said, it's still really fun to play and better than most other shit that's coming out these days, just very disappointing.
>>750856148Arch hydra is another everfall exclusive
>>750856202>new attack>reskinFucking dummy, do you consider the blue spirit wolf in dark arisen 2 a reskin?
>>750856317It is a reskin.
>>750856452Then DD2 is all just a reskin of 1 and you should hate it
>>750855954Definitely. That's just a fact.>>750855985The Everfall gets old very quickly though. You can fall and land on platforms and fight monsters in 2-3 room floors so you can get Wakestones or you can traverse the entire DD2 map including where the oceas were and fight Dullahans, Gorechimeras, Lesser Dragons, Drakes, Skeleton sorcerors, Liches/wightsAlso, time only advances when you sleep and you can farm allheals like crazy in the Unmoored World. You can in theory stay there for hundreds of hours. Frankly, whenever i get to the everfall, that's my cue to start BBI because that's more interesting and fun than the everfall by a long shot.
>>750856538what are your thoughts on crimson desert
>>750856562BBI and the everfall coexist and elevate each other, unmoored is pointless when you can just go to norgan
>>750856651Won't play it until they add online pawns
>>750856671wrong.
>>750856719Cope
>>750856562Everfall was fucking cool, dont care what you say. First time jumping in was bad ass and the new enemies were sweet. It was good shit stop being a faggot.
>>750855985I am a DD1 enjoyer and defender, but let's not exaggerate, Unmoored World is way better than the Everfall in both gameplay and presentation. DD1 postgame is cool conceptually but it was clearly tacked on in a hurry late in development, you get a couple rooms with some copy/pasted dungeons and reskin enemies, then you throw a pile of Wakestones into a bowl and get warped to the ending. Unmoored World has unique bosses and an entire questline across the whole game world that is now semi-drastically changed with all the oceans in the game world drained and explorable.
Unmoored loses a lot of points for only showing up for at last 95% of the game and then forcing you to rush it with a hard timelimit.
>>750851486Kinoshita mogged his own expansion Bitterblack with DDDA2.
>>750852087corruption means BRINED in this case
>>750856671BBI, Norgan and the Unmoored world all mog the Everfall. Like>>750857203It's cool from an aesthetics, conceptual and story standpoint, but it's fucking shit to actually play. It's literally just copy pasted rooms with a bunch of mid boss enemies you gather wakestones from in order to open the portal to the Seneschal's chamber. No one serious defends the Everfall's gameplay, even if it's understandable why it's not that fun and even if it is cool from an actual concept standpoint.>>750857882There's no hard time limit. Time only advances when you sleep and you have 10 (or 12?) inn stays to get everything done. Just use Allheals from pawn quests (or Regeneration Elixers from Norgan since that's a thing now) and you can stay there forever. also start the Norgan DLC BEFORE the Unmoored World in order to be able to sleep on at inns without advancing time and to get Regeneration Elixers in the first place.
>>750858464I'm talking about pre-DLC Unmoored before things like unlimited rests and manual saves existed. It's less shitty now but it was still shit back then.
>>750857403>Unmoored World is way better than the Everfall in both gameplay and presentation.No?The everfall theme alone is more memorable than anything in unmoored
>>750858464The everfall is just combat encounters which BBI were more off, it's extremely jewish to try and praise BBI but downplay everfall, they have the exact same appeal
>>750858546It was the best part of the game. It was the most challenging and fun part of DD2 since you had to careful of whether a fight was worth it and you had to manage the time allotted to you well in order to stave off all 5 the Purgerors (i guess the one in Batthal is kinda lame but that's like 1 "boss" being bad versus 4 awesome bosses. It has cool bosses, cool difficult enemies and also allowed you to explore the ocean. it's the most memorable part of base DD2.>>750858913BBI also had difficult encounters that gave you larger gacha rewards for beating them like better gear, armor and weapons along with upgraded bobbles that could be useful in the base game like the elite Lanter or the pickaxe that mines faster. It also had an entire story line and a lot to actually do considering you were intended to go through it twice in one playthrough. The Everfall literally exists for you to harvest Wakestones, either to move the plot or for your next playthrough. there are no unique boss or common enemies in the Everfall, outside of the archhydra (which I'm not even sure of that). It outstays its welcome very very quickly just due to how its set up.
>>750859167>The Everfall literally exists for you to harvest WakestonesThat's badass>there are no unique boss or common enemies in the Everfall, outside of the archhydra (which I'm not even sure of that).Wrong>It outstays its welcome very very quickly just due to how its set up.I wanted more which was BBI.Everfall still has a purpose, norgan makes unmoored utterly pointless
>>750855950That video you linked really got me thinking. This seems to be a modern Capcom issue in general. There was a huge focus on Capcom monsters having distinct personalities prior to Monster Hunter World, and whatever design philosophy they developed during World has spread to Resident Evil and Dragon's Dogma 2. Things like the Chimera's goat head being panicky in 1 but not 2 are just microcosms of a larger shift in Capcom's modern approach.
Some of the npcs are really cute
>>750859421Their characters aren't also nearly as colorful or expressive as they used to be. Everyone is so bland in all their modern games. Just compare any of the main DD1 characters to the main DD2 characters. Or any of the pre-MH World characters to anyone from World or Wilds
>>750859553Post more
>>750859689Guys, I think Capcom may be depressed.
>>750859768DA2 definitely has better characters than base DD2, so maybe they're coming out of it
>>750859723I think she's supposed to be the guard accompanying the jadeite orb guy
>>750859982No I meant post more NPCs. Seeing female character's in Savan's hair looks weird to me
>>750859421Tis trueMy eternal grievance is that Capcom went in a AAA slop direction with every game. Fuck just play RE4R, and regardless of it being a good game on it's own you can't tell me that game doesn't reek of contempt for the original. People loved RE4 precisely because it was goofy and funny and not in spite of it, the people that liked grounded RE games prefer tank controls.Dragon's Dogma 2 suffers from this as well. It's like it's embarrassed that it's a game.
>>750860057lolI have been favoriting every character with an interesting design so there's a few of the good looking ones in my historyhere's a random nobleshame they look worse in the portraits than in game
Capcom seems to just be building asset libraries and stapling them together, not really worried about innovation on a non-technical level. They're almost like a bizarro "from software" now, mostly using asset reuse as a ground for testing *new* gameplay ideas to see what sticks.
Man.Not being able to just run past the enemies is a fucking chore in this gameI HAVE A PLACE I NEED TO GO YOU CUNTMOVE
>>750860057I finally got to encounter the first lesser demon on hard.It was like fighting a crack addict, worse than the nob goblins. Speaking of, that's bullshit. On hard they throw their little pebble and my pawns die and I get stunned with that big bong sound effect. Bitch, what the hell? Does the tiny rock they toss do emotional damage?
>>750860086>Fuck just play RE4RNo thanks, sorry. I still have my gamecube. I really loved that Tobi-Kadachi would lay down and watch you fish in the Ancient Forest if there were no other predators in the area, but unfortunately it doesn't carry the same personality as something like Nerscylla taking time to study a captured hunter up close before the guillotine jaws come out. And even that was on the tail end of 'realism' compared to the more outlandish, anthropomorphic traits that other monsters had.>>750860312That seems to be a larger issue with how bloated modern game development has become, not just a Capcom problem. When you've poured millions into modeling, texturing, and rigging a single creature, you quite literally can't afford to use it only once and then put all of its files in a lockbox never to be used again.
>>750860667Goblin torches are bugged and will instagib anything they touch. Do not try to tank gobbo torches.
>>750860312What's wrong with that? They're like props in movie, they're meant to be reused. If this lets them focus on creating new franchises, then fine by me.
>>750860472What are you talking about? Just run.
>>750860785HEROES NEVER RUN
>>750860312That's how you release 5+ games games within 2 years or so like Capcom does and not 1 game in 10 years. Don't reinvent the wheel if you don't have to. Just modify it to suit your use case.
>>750860086>good game on it's own you can't tell me that game doesn't reek of contempt for the originalI don't know about that. I thought the knife parry mechanics were more faithful to Kennedy being a knife master as they portrayed in the first RE4. Munchkin not getting a giant mutant done was a loss to us all, though. The queen bring bigger than King Kong was definitely a new RE problem, though.
https://www.nexusmods.com/dragonsdogma2/mods/2430Can finally romance your pawn. Doesn't rely on a chatbot like RiftSpeak does. But it needs Immersive Interactables, which I recall hearing was real fucking taxing on performance.
>>750860472 What? It's very easy unless it's like a fast enemy or a big one in an enclosed space. So like the wolves are harder to outrun and when you fight a yeti in the ice cave is a pain, otherwise just run. Your pawns will follow or teleport to you when you're a bit away.
>>750860785>attempt to run past really fast>harpies WILL find you and WILL stun you>then the 210913 goblins that for some reason keep following you even into another continent will gang up and rape youfucking hell man>>750861129immersive interactables is fine since it's modularyou can just disable most features and then it's light lolI left it exclusively for the tailoring at any mannequin, with vanilla stuff included
>>750861129>romancing your pawnWait, aren't pawns extension of the arisen? That's like buying flowers for your right hand, or someone else's right hand.
>>750861129I wish this nigga was more occupied with fixing the game's movement instead of turning it into the simsThough I do admit I miss having some sort of emotes so I can screenshot my pawn
>>750861262>aren't pawns extension of the arisenThey follow your will and your main pawn is a reflection of what (You) desire, but according to the Pathfinder, no. They are more similar to the Dragon than they are to the Arisen.
>DD1's post-game apocalypse: green>DD2's post-game apocalypse: redDD3 is going to end with a blue apocalypse isn't it
>>750861890That's norgan 'do
>>750849790What is this? I didn't know there was a dragon's dogma anime, is that clip from it? Looks kinda low budget but the tits have my attention.
>>750861129>But it needs Immersive InteractablesIt doesn't. You lose a few interactions tho.
what's dogma?
>>750862228So DD3's just gonna be piss yellow everywhere? Maybe I don't want the third game anymore...
>>750863821Dogma balls.
I do not think this is how oxcarts are supposed to work, but what do I know.
>>750861296True, but he brought back this piece of schizoItsuno kino in full:https://www.nexusmods.com/dragonsdogma2/mods/2342?tab=description
I think its almost time to replay ddda1
>>750864985It will be yellow because the moon will be so close to gran soren we can climb to it from moonlight tower
>>750863821It's an affliction that dragons get. Like ligma
>Empowered by Evil Eye gear>Got some outstanding rolls [I don't know much but the skill enhancements were top]This gear is neato. So far I've upgraded the Fighter set and Mystic Spearhand wep. I'm doing the Bow next. What else should I upgrade with Evil Eye? I'm thinking maybe I make my Pawn a Thief? Upgrade the daggers?
This IP is cursed. Always so close to greatness. You can almost taste it, but always fall short. Doesn't even make meaningful progress.
>>750865886Thief skill upgrades seem kind of lame to me, partially because their vanilla kit is already fucking stronk. Effortless Kill is pretty cool, I suppose.I'd try to get a greatsword with Tidal Rage and Ravening Coil, and a staff with Deific Bolt.
>>750865840What's ligma?
>>750866454dogma balls
For me, it's Ursula. Adelina has too many wrinkles
>>750867086My fellow Ursula appreciator
>>Doing Hal's Treasure Hunt quest>>Found the 4 red posts>>No further hints>>Wandered around and managed to uncover and loot some snowfoot lairs>>Was about to give up when I happened across the Snowslide Pass I already explored>>Stumbled across the quest item in there>>Turns out I was supposed to draw a line between the posts and go where the lines intersectQuest failed successfully I guess
>>750850516Base game is a vibe for your first playthrough. Dont listen to these jaded niggers. People were mostly crying about performance and skill slots at launch anyways. Both of which have been addressed.
>>750867086Your preferences are as admirable as Ursula is perfect.
>>750844906did the dlc make dd2 playable? darksydephil dropped this shit in like 5 hours. his wife Kat hated the game too
>>750849790what the fuck is this shit
>>750865443they don't?
>>750868396pure garbage and a blight on the DD brand
>>750859982I think this might be the only female Vermundian soldier that doesn't act like a huge bitch towards you.
>>750851143>DD2's music is le badKill yourself
anyone tried the hydra mod yet
I want more.
My pawns are all retards. I feel like I have to play one of the babysitter vocations to keep them alive more than 20 seconds.Is there any way to at least make my main pawn not a drooling retard?
>>750855950Man this video is really making me remember why I loved DD1 so much
>>750869282Don't make them Straightforward for one, because then they'll constantly try to climb large enemies. Pawns with ranged vocations will do this too, even if you yourself are playing a ranged vocation.
>>750869597Its annoying just how common straightforward fighters are. Straightforward is probably the worst inclination for fighters because you want them on their own feet pulling the hoard of ghouls their way and as soon as they start climbing the blemmyae all the ghouls rush your ass instead.
>>750869597>>750869726What are good inclinations for each class? I quite like SF on fighters and warriors but i havent started the expansion yet.Ive also yet to find a good inclination for sorc.
I need more DD content, Crimson Desert and MHW ain't doing it for me. The first one's gameplay is laggy af and the second is the gameplay loop...Am I cursed to keep playing DD1&2 forever?
>>750869975Calm seems to be the least retarded Simple takes an IQ hit in exchange for being a proactive looterKindhearted will drop everything to babysit you when you get a scratch
>>750870672My sincerest advise to fellow Arisens is that if you decide to hire Simple pawns, make sure they are aphonites
>>750869975Fighter - CalmWarrior - CalmThief - Straightforward Archer - SimpleMage - KindheartedSorcerer - Calm
>>750871573how do i change this? where's the fucking inclination chair?
>>750871654The game told you already and it's clear you didn't read it. You can buy rift incense to change their inclination. Open the menu and look it up
DD3You can FUCK your pawnsThere will be a cutscene Please look forward to it
>>750869975Calm - Will only engage enemies within a short range of the arisen, less likely to climb or grapple, likes to fight on foot, good for red vocationsStraightforward - Will engage enemies directly, will climb and grapple often, only really good for thieves you want climbing shit, if you don't want them climbing shit avoid this like the plagueSimple - Will avoid engaging enemy groups directly, will try to evade and pick off enemies with ranged attacks/spells and objects like rocks and pots found around the area, good for archers, mages, and sorcerersKindhearted - Will stay near the Arisen and offer aid whenever possible, only engages enemies when directly targeted, basically only useful for mages
It's funny how hard chilling embrace and hagol fucks sorcerer ai. Is that an undead? Better use my fucking ice spells.
>>750871729right, that. i forgor
>>750872259Elemental weaknesses basically don’t matter in this game except for the ice dragon and ice giant, for everything else Grand Hagol is almost always one of the best spells you can be casting
>>750852502>>750853087In my ideal world they would keep pumping out expansions for dd2 with new zones and new vocations, while working on a ddda remake that keeps the ddda gameplay but fixes the stupid things like only 3 skills for warrior or mystic knight being the absolute strongest vocation. Add new depths to bbi too. That would be perfect.
How is the music in the expansion?The most disappointing thing in DD2 for me was how weak and unmemorable the music was.
>>750873040I dunno man basegame dd2 is pretty stinky...
>>750873040>would rather have a remake instead of an entirely new gamelollmao even
>>750854429Grigori is a name of a specific individual not a title every dragon gets, REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeee
>>750868350how does this scene work exactly?first time i got sven, 2nd time got brantno idea how this shit works and it can't be related to the beloved system
>hal's treasure hunt>find the four posts>maybe something at the cross section?>find a goat there>that wasn't itweird coincidence then
>>750873202You tell MEhttps://youtu.be/nNQnEWbUI8w?t=425
>>750849790How come we didnt get awesome titties in the game that werent attached to weird bird lion women?
>>750873592think three dimensionally, if it's not on surface then....
>>750873202Really good, especially for the main bosses. Doesn't beat DD1 but it goes into the right direction which is a good sign
>>750873592>There's a goat there, fight>Both of us fall through one of the snow canopies into the tunnel system below>Fight in a hectic CQC where the camera can barely be positioned anywhere to get a good view>Fight displaces a bunch of snow>Demon dies and collapses right on top of where the four posts converge>Hey what's that?
>>750873813i thought it might be snowslide pass, but there's nothing in there
>>750873783There is a cut ogre rape quest so maybe think about who made the devs cut stuff like that
>>750874228nevermind that, i ran past it 17 times. thanks, anons
>>750874184>fallen dragon ost
Why did the expansion flop?
>>750874342to be fair, it is a small collectible
>>750874384Base game was already forgotten by gamers. My humble opinion? Don't care if it flopped, got to blast one more time
>>750844906>weapon literally has the word SATAN in it>why no holy?It's kinda obvious, no?
>>750874451The fact that they made a basegame that flopped, then made a 10/10 expansion after, which flopped, makes me think they'll make a 11/10 DLC3 or DD3, going by the trend
NOGGERS! NOG THEIR NOGGINS!
>>750874593>11/10 DLC3 or DD3according to you, Exoprimal and Kunitsu-gami are getting sequels too
>>750874805Capcom is trying to diversify and build up other brands as they can't rely on resident evil forever so anons hope for a sequel isn't that unlikely
I've got nogger, nokken, and knakker fatigue
>>750874384Diabloot makes the world not worth exploring. There's genuinely nothing interesting to find in Norgan, just "Relic" and "Relic" and "Relic", all of which will be randomly assigned and almost guaranteed to be worse than what you already have, and a lot of loop-around shortcuts that you don't need to use thanks to so many fat portcrystals.Unlike the vanilla Vermund where a bunch of unique items and encounters are deliberately placed by the devs in all corners of the map. It's curious how the Lost Rites, a unique addition to Vermund, are all really interesting and fun, their contents established and not random nonsense.
>>750874946>unique items those unique items from chests in every fucking cave were fucking wakestonesthe best equipment you got was from the blacksmiththere was no incentive to explore because 95% of the rewards was dogshit
>>750874946>all of which will be randomly assignedrelics have a progression to them, you're not pulling out lvl 4s or 5s near the first encampment
>>750868016Even better is going to where they indicate and being thrown into the pit by a demon and landing next to it. Thanks demon bro.
>>750874914Then you'll love bugaboos!
>>750875126Not only that there is progression within the tiers themselves, the augments you can get on satanchia's tier 5s are different from those you get from the undead dragon's tier 5s or death's tier 5's.
>handsome sqidward
>>750875235The chests in Gagana's nest also use a different loot pool, guaranteeing the fire immunity armor to drop.
>>750875239and here's the arisen to the pawn. lmao
>>750868383Lmao why would i give a fuck about some literal who? Oh no bogofartmash got filtered and his boyfriend too, it really matters.
>>750868383kys yourself my man
Just 54 levels until level cap. People will surely begin hiring my pawn again then.
>>750850516All of it is bad, dont fucking pay for it.
there's ONE guy keeping at exactly my slow ass pace. i keep rehiring his pawn since ~100. now we're both at ~170. she's my pawn's waifu at this point.
>>750876379>~170hey, you're in range of my pawn3IUI4BZTVVLG if you want a killer main tank
>>750876558how's your arisen at 394 while she's at 150?
>>750876558nta, but grabbed your beanpole.
>>750876653Capped her at 150 but still CAPCOM-legal using the Level Down Only mod so she's still hireable at a reasonable RC cost for people starting the hard mode endgame grind>>750876723Thanks fighter jesus
They seriously pulled a DD1 again and fixed the game by giving it an excellent expansion huh?
>>750876772they didn't fix the dogshit base game or are you one of the faggots who thinks that base dd1 is bad, you're not a faggot are you, anon?
Am I crazy or is there no way to get to Norgan on foot?
>>750876772Yes>>750876818Actually they did, the performance of the base game was fixed (I went from 20~40 to 90~110 fps) AND they gave every vocation 6 skill slots, that alone massively improved the game. I still don't enjoy the base game much but it is much better than the chuggy mess it used to be.
Lmao stomach vore monster just grabbed one of my pawns and fell into the brine.
>>750876850Why do you think everyone gets the eternal ferrystone?An overland route as an open air dungeon would have been beyond great, but we didn't get that.
>>750876937>performance of the base game was fixedgood for toaster owners, base game still wasn't fixed though
>>750850516It's still a decent game, but it was a big disappointment for many because they were expecting something special that built on DD1 being a diamond in the rough with all the extra time and leeway they had, but instead we got something about on par with it, arguably worse in a few ways.Add to that the poor performance for the first year, more limited skill slots, gear and classes, and a shallower main questline (two of these have been fixed for the most part) and it made for an underwhelming experience. Still, it is dragon's dogma and it has a lot of charm and feels good to play and there's nothing quite like it, so a cheaper, updated version is worth a playthrough
>>750877008What would it take to 'fix' the base game in your estimation? Like I said I don't think the base game is great, or even that good, but it is dramatically improved and they addressed nearly every issue I had with it, its about as good as I can expect it to be considering the direction they initially took with it.Outside something crazy like radically changing all the quests I don't see how they can make the base game much better than it is now. Maybe some crazy modder with 5 years of claude tokens can turn it into something enjoyable, but the expansion is good, perhaps the best Dragon's Dogma has ever been. Its Dark Arisen without the same 4 rooms repeating over again.
>>750873340DD games convinced me fully that the average gamer is just fucking retarded.
satanch-ch-chia
>>750877197proper dungeons, side quests, rework of places like the thief village which exists solely for one fucking quest and for unlocking the thief's maister skill, more enemies, improved vocations and many morethe entire base game feels half assed in favour of creating a "big" open world, but most of the paths are corridors with no looping around or shortcutssay what you will about fromsoft, despite them cutting a lot of content in their games(e.g sixth archstone in des), they still deliver on it without a massive drop in quality
love this lil' nigga like you wouldn't believehe's smaller than my shotarisen
>>750844906somebody please convince me to finish Dark Arisen. 9 days ago i stopped playing and i can't bring myself to continue. i think i'm close to the end but i feel like i'm just done with it.
>>750878707Why would I persuade you to play a game you aren't enjoyingUse your limited time wisely
>>750878750on the contrary, i like it a lot. otherwise i wouldn't have spend 50 hours in this expansion alone in two weeks. but it feels like i'm done with it, even tho i'm not.
>wants to dress my pawn as slutty so she gets hired more>jimmies get rustled because cold region wouldn't allow for much whorishnessany tasteful transmog recommendations? best I can think of is that fur shirt with the underboob and long skirt
>>750879709have you seen what the beorcans are wearing
>>750876558Sent your girl home. Cheers anon.
>>750879747they are natives, they have that cold resistance racial perk
What if Dragon's Dogma 3 has a boat?
>>750879859thanks manriotous fury is so cool even with the granny panties and cellulite
>Worried about over leveling >Wait I can just hire my own PawnsWhat's the Delta Guard of DD2? The bikini armor bottom piece
>is the most precious npc in you're pathI would take a bullet for her.
>>750877674Fromsoft reuses a lot of assets and elden ring notoriously had a lot of copy pasted shit. It was littered with copy pasted dungeons. Story is also nonsense most of the time and kept alive by youtuber theory essays. If you think about it they are not that different from dragons dogma 2. The only important distinction is that fromsoft does focus on the main appeal of their games (bossing), while dd2 did not and itsuno instead wasted time on useless shit like trickster, relationship system, talos etc.
>>750881831I'd turn her into a fur coat like all furries in this game. Total beastren death.
>>750881831Freki probably thinks she's one of her pups.
>>750881993Shouldn't you be getting ready to go to school?
One day video games will have actual hair physics where you can just put a hood or hat on your character without it clipping through and the hair naturally flows with the garment. Wish there was better winter head gear than just this hood.
>>750882156>furfag pdf thinking about school
Not sure if DD2 models have actual buttholes but I swear I can see my Arisen everytime the flip up a ledge
>>750844906Had no idea they actually added Death till it showed up
>>750882678The game has a photomode, so you can zoom-in and check, just saiyan.
>>750881831>I would take a bullet for her.Amen.
FSR looks so fucking disgusting in this game. Visual artifacts everywhere. Dynamic resolution provides a much cleaner image.
What level to start Norgan?
>>75088431240-50
>>750884312Last two digits of my post.
>>750884503>3Is that actually possible? Or would required quests level you up past that first?
>>750868621He's right. There no memorable tracks like 1 had. Even 2s final boss theme needed the CHAD SESENSHAL theme from DD1
>>75088431240+ but levels don't matter much compared to gear you get there
>>750884312Whenever. You level up extremely quickly and your first weapon will outclass anything from the base game. I would say do everything you want to do in the base game before starting the dlc. I did all the pre post game Lost Rites before starting and that was probably the way to enjoy them.
>>750884583Think its possible if you skip as many fights as possible and bee line to vermund.
>lvl 999At last I am free.
>>750882750Where is he? I've yet to see the old cunt.
>>750885419do a red rift and he has a chance of being the finisher, like satanachia
>>750885549Is it hte finisher? I had it appear in the first round ONTOP of the other boss.
200 long weapon relics later and still no sword I'm looking for.Early game shits tidal rage all over you in weapon appraisals. Late game seems to love the shitty lunge and jump attacks instead.Insane to me we didn't get an upgraded heavenward sunder.
>>750885292Now do it for the other two save profiles.
>>750882750>hp keeps resetting and he keeps running.Meh. Worthless. At least the BBI death you could actually kill and wasn't a waste of your time.
>>750886017Oh you can kill him. Just need that battle frenzy IV (I have found plain, non-boosted BFIV to be good).
>>750886017You mean you could cheese it to death over multiple fights and just walk out of the room to despawn it making it a non threat. You cant run from it here, if you want to kill it you have to actually be capable of fighting it. You CAN kill it, but its mostly just there to vibe check your pawns. That said, I prefer the tone the other one brought where it played the music and killed the lights in the area, not because of the fight itself. They couldve had it have a chance of spawning in the post game in the castle areas just wandering around or something.
>>750885773Eh, maybe next year.
>>750885292Is there many pawns up there? I feel like it was a retarded idea to make the level cap so high because all it did was make the end point for everyone to be in the same pawn pool so wide.
>>750885292>he thinks he's freePitiful Arisen.
>>750886839On switch but I checked pawn search real quick and as long as you're not looking for a Warrior or Sorcerer you would be fine. Popularity was:Mage > Archer > Fighter > Thief > Warrior > SorcererMage filled the rift while you had 3-2 options to choose from the latter two.
>>750866274Gotcha. Understood. Maybe I'll do the GS or a Staff. Probably GS though, fighting Evil Eye without melee is suicidal. Honestly fuck Kinoshita for adding this mechanic to a boss fight that hates magic users that much
>>750887794You could always switch to Warfarer, beat the Evil Eye with a melee weapon, and then switch to your magic weapon before absorbing its power.
>>750884312People are saying 40+ but I'm 100 and can only barely handle Beorcans easily. It really really depends on how good your weapons are.
>>750884312>>75088839640+ is much more accurately matched to Lost Rites, not fuckin' Norgan.
going to norgan from unmoored feels amazing.
>>750885549he can show up in purple vortexes as well
>>750851143>>Portraying goblins as anything but a mild threatgoblins early game on hard mode were pushing my shit in not gonna lie
>Got stuck in chimera cycle of sleep and rock spam Why the fuck does it just spam two moves
>>750882097>nordix male name on a female wolfCapcom is so low morale
just finished the expansion's story. it's frankly very good, even though I still think the game has some fundamental problems in generalalso>forced to side with the cyclejew against Satanbullshit. wish there was an alternative ending where you pierce the Rancor Blade into the Pathfinder
>>750885549oh damn, I only ever get Satanchihuahua
>>750892440>wants to side with literal fucking Satanthe internet edgy atheist phase ended in the late 2000's buddy we don't do that anymore
Snachhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh is actually a well designed boss, i absolutely cannot tell the difference between normal and red flavors.
>>750892605okay enjoy your infinite cycle whose only purpose is being a stage play for some all-seeing energy
>>750886602I'm perfectly capable of killing it but it runs away. You HAVE fought it right? You should know that.
>>750892440We already fight against the cycle in the main story. And Satan-chan's too unhinged to ally with.
>>750893040Yes anon. Where was the implaction otherwise.>give pawn "immune to sleep" ring>watch them spin to win staggerDid you forget that you can gain 100% immunity to its only real attack?
>>750893123No, I have a 100% sleep resist ring on my pawn. That doesn't change the fact he still runs away.
>>750893096sure, the proper ending to Norden should be you fighting him and saving the land. but I would've appreciated a chance to put the Pathfinder in it's place for an alternative endingI felt like such a lapdog just following his commands in the end>go and save the cycle, Arisen!that's a bold order after all I've learnt from beating both games
>>750892617As far as I can tell the only difference is fruit punch Stan spawns the permanent tornados in phase 2 while vanilla doesn’t
>>750893331Yes? Killing it at all is suppose to be a feat, not an obligation. Its fucking Death. Imagine if you killed it every time it showed up, how intimidating does that sound for an enemy that only has 2 attacks and one of them has a 100% immunity option. You would turn a neat encounter into a common enemy.Just so youre aware, holy damage does 5x stagger effect on it, if you actually do want to make it a joke just equip a thief pawn and yourself with holy dagger and helmsplitter.
>>750893467>NordenNorgan, I mean
went to a popup capcom store in taiwan and this was the only dragon's dogma merch they had. then again, dd2 isn't exactly a "merch friendly" IP
>>750893467His talk at the end of the Proving Grounds seems to suggest that he's fine with you going against the order of the world and trying to break the cycle. You already put him in his place when you use your huge Arisen dick to stab Nex.
>>750893753Its a weird one, because you make your own characters theres no real "character" to sell. Like they sold those figmas of the arisen on the cover that looks cool, but thats just generic armour and not a character.
>>750893753they could've made a portcrystal lamppeople would use it as a dildo though
>>750893845
>>750861176Aggro I think doesn't disengage unless you cross a border or exceed a certain distance, I think.
>>750893753they made an action figure though
>>750893753I would buy a ferrystone plushie/keychain.
>>750894931it looks neat, but it also doesn't represent Dragon's Dogma to me at allit's just some guy in armor
>>750895140>it's just some guy in armorit's the canon appearance of the DD2 arisen
>>750891832yeah, people pretend hard mode is easy but for the first twenty levels everything is a one-hit killof course, on hard mode "first twenty levels" are gained by your first twenty kills, after that it's really standard DD2 but you're 20 levels higher than normal
>>750894931from an outsider's perspective, this looks like any generic high fantasy knight. at best, an NPC from a souls game
>>750881831>Are you having a good day? :)
New meme ring combo dropped>old and busted: reversal & benevolence>new hotness: 2x predominanceBuy them from the wandering merchant at the central ropeway station in Battahl, slap those bad boys on, make sure you have some sort of ez healing with high uptime (Aggressive Recovery is best, but a healslut with default Anodyne bubbles is also fine), enjoy your literal double damage. On my Fighter Arisen I can 1-cycle Death without him escaping and also reliably kill the enhanced Satanachia before it even gets to its pawn possession spell, shit is busted.
>>750897435>just knock everything down>let's become fucking invincible>who needs defense or tactics when I can drop nukesRing meta has certainly changed over time. I know they're mostly irrelevant now outside of the Evil Eye weapons, but I wonder if alternate forging methods are better now instead of just going full Dwarven.
>>750897435Wish there was actual % shown on what they do>sleightly increases damagethe fuck does that mean, that Im doing 10 more damage when Im doing 1000 damage per hit?
>>750884312Whatever level is strong enough to fight 3 giant monsters at once
>>750897914WE MUST BE BETTER SNOWFEET
>one of the pawn's voice is the same as kruber's>saltzpyre's and sienna's VA are also in the game, but as npcsfucking capcom what a wasted opportunity
>>750898202Was so cool to notice when I saw this dude with the voice and I finally connected 2 and 2 together
>>750897767Idk even before the DLC I think knockdown was just universally good. I would use elven on support mages but for anyone who would even consider attack enemies, including sorcs, no reason not to just go full dwarven.Total moot point now as soon as you get to Norgan unless someone discovers some niche or broken way to use the Evil Eye stuff, but Battle Frenzy is just too hard to compete with.>>750897873I agree it's frustrating. Idk if it's actually been data mined but from people just running the numbers while using mods that track metrics like DPS, it looks like 2x Predominance is straight up double-damage, and it stacks with things like Battle Frenzy. The setup I mentioned where I'm 1-cycling Death is plapping Satanachia is BF4 + Aggressive Recovery + 2x Predominance. Shield Precision for survivability (Gigantus Vim+ and dragonforged-enhanced that skill to make it 1/2 stam cost) and Cloudfall+Plenilune and it's pretty much perfect.
>>750898202There as a bunch of Darktide VAs aswell.
>only pity hires the past weekIt's over for me.
>>750892808the game itself tells you that's not what it is
Final Proving Ground is cringe. Lesser Dragon + Wight is fucking retarded as fuck. I was able to manage most of the first few floors okay and was even keeping up with healing my team but now it's just endless magic bullethell and the LEsser Dragon keeps onshotting the CAPCOM PAWNS that I fucking HIRED FROM THE GAOL CELLS because the loss gauge ruined my party almost right away
>>750899263Sadly you have two options, either resign yourself to the fact that you'll only get pity hires or else be willing to shill out your pawn and people to your friends list. I usually have fresh hires on my pawn every time I play and 9/10 it's from someone I added to friends list. The level cap is too wide for random hires, idk what the fuck they were thinking with 999.
It was refreshing to see this guy in 2 again.
Is Mystic Spearhand secretly fucking broken as fuck?Had some trouble getting through the dlc with Warrior so I switched to Mystic Spearhand because I remembered I could put bubble shields on my dudes. Flew through everything with zero pushback.
>>750900957Yea the shield makes it one of the best supports. If youre not taking damage thats better than HEALING the damage.
>>750900957MS requires too much micro for people, they just steal the bubble for warfarer and play something simpler.
>>750859689>Just compare any of the main DD1 characters to the main DD2 characters.There's a reason Rothais decides to just genocide everybody.
