>Keeps remaking old games because they literally forgot how to make games and are hoping this will somehow make them know how to make games again.>Even though we can see from any of the past 273,290 examples of them doing this, (e.g Metroid Prime), that this strategy doesn't even work.Nintendo is braindead.If they want to know how to make new games they should MAKE NEW GAMES
>>750847880You're a dumb nigger Remakes have always been an excuse to both shit out something cheap and fast and to help train new talent without much riskNo one ever makes a remake because they actually want to make the original game better or put effort into it, if they wanted to do that they wouldn't be making a fucking remake in the first place
But they are constantly.Most of it might be derivative crap or lazy sequels, but they make more actual games than most other major studios
>>750847880>If they want to know how to make new games they should MAKE NEW GAMESterrible idea, kys
Worked for Persona, every remake is a definitive masterpiece and the lessons learned will be added to P6.
>>750848094They haven't made a new Mario game since 2017.
>>750848079retard lmao. die.
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>>750848079Someone's watched Nerrel's Star Fox demake seething.
>>750852258Nerrel is a terrible artist but his basis is sound.
>>750852132That's not a Mario game, it's a party game.
>>750852473so are "real" mario games
>>750853063If you have to bend the rules as to what makes a Mario game a Mario game to this extent then I can do nothing but pity you for being a fool that is this delusional.
>>750848079Don't forget, it's an opportunity to add wokeness where there was none before.
>>750847880>mfw original Zelda games to come have more traditional progression
>>750847880>they should MAKE NEW GAMESThey are. They made BOTW and TOTK, which most people loved and (you) shit yourself over, crying that's it's not a "real Zelda" (i.e games from my childhood). Now that they are taking inspiration from the shitty linear 3d Zelda games like you've been bitching about you're STILL MAD? The fuck do you actually want?
>>750854918>They made a game 9 years ago and an expansion 3 years ago.We are so blessed.
>>750847880>doesn't even have basic reading comprehension>calls others braindeadNot defending Nintendo, just calling you out for your retardation.
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>>750855014Nah, sounds like you’re defending them
>>750852473Wonder isn't old
>>750847880>”they forgot how to make games!”In the interview they explain that it’s because they mostly got new devs working on the game and wanna give them a hands-on approach to how the older games were made. It's not that they forgot, it’s that the new guys need experience. If you’re gonna fault them for anything, the blame lies on nintendo getting new hires instead of sticking with their old guard
Aonuma not realizing that fast travel hampers discovery and immersion until trying to put fast travel into ootremake is crazy. Training for the old timers who were one of the heads of the original game more like.
>>750855407thats just indians that dont know about gaming besides ue5 youtube tutorials
>>750855407No you fucking retard, if they didnt forget they would be able to onboard new devs without this exercise in futility.
>>750848079Words of truth
>>750855407How come the original guys who made it could do it without needing to make a remake but all the new hires need to remake stuff to know how to make future titles
>>750854918new zelda game were weapons doesnt break after hacking a goomba to death with 5 slashes
>>750847880This is the ideal remake strategy, that's what Resident Evil has been doing, and it's earned them more goodwill than most remakes. But RE has a formula that's hard to replicate for Nintendo games, most remakes have to compete with the original for "Soul vs Soulless", but RE is the unique position in that it's a horror series with lots of soulful classics... but they're not really scary or not scary anymore at least. So even if RE makes a game that's not a direct copy of the OG's soul, it's has the benefit of adding back horror into a series that needed it. Mario, Zelda, Pokemon - all this shit is feature complete. They're simple by intent, which means the formula is time-tested, but can't really be improved on much. Besides adding new mechanics and gimmicks, but that's much harder to do than:>Make this zombie more realistically scary.Which brings us back to the REmake formula, it pushes graphics which adds details to the horror, which usually results in successful sales that can fuel the next graphics step forward. For a movie, extra detail can make a scare less scary than your imagination because you can always close your eyes or flinch or look away - but in a videogame, getting scared means playing worse which means risking dying which means risking progress lost. More detail means your brain is getting tricked into thinking it's really fighting that monster as opposed to watching a CG render of that monster attack another guy.Anyway, Nintendo can't add more whimsy soul into games that are already about as soulful as you can get. And it can't add graphics because it's hardware is limited. And added success doesn't mean better graphics or better hardware, because Nintendo isn't a Multi-Media conglomerate like Xbox and Sony. So every remake shows Nintendo lost a little bit more soul. And one day that dam will break, and Nintendo will make a classic game into a huge remake flop.
it is embarrassing if the avg 20 to 30 something nintendo dev does not have the care or the knowledge to download project 64 and play oot of that was what they wanted to do. what do you mean "they only have experience developing the recent titles"? the older titles are free. assign them as homework for your employees if you want insights to be derived. maybe this is why the dungeons suck dick in the open air zeldas. nothing even close to oot water temple, the high watermark of level design in the franchise.
>>750855590It's forever in an uphill battle as long as Sony and Xbox exist to push graphics and make Nintendo look less shiny relatively. Sony even showed that people want graphics and gimmicks added to their Mario. They even add Nostalgia soul to the Mario formula and turned Astrobot into a modern Platforming classic. Something thought basically impossible from anyone who wasn't Nintendo.
>>750855641LOL, LMAO
>>750855695Nemu looks cute.
>>750847880They could remake the OG and Zelda 2 as as a single game since they're so short, could even make in this OoT remake style or the Link's Awakening remake style
>>750855629I also don't get how remaking a game trains you to make more unique and better games in the future? If anything it just forces you to copy what already works and basically make clones with a few changes
I don't hate this. If there's a point to go back to for fresh inspiration before everything went TERRIBLY, AWFULLY, DREADFULLY WRONG, it's Ocarina of Time.
>>750847880Recomp for PC when?
>>750855812You should hate it because thats been their excuse for every remake in the last few years.Remakes of the same games forever because apparently intern onboarding requires it for some reason
>>750855695>Nemu the Night Owl bear>So stressed by the world he can't sleep.I find this bear very relatable.
>>750855887The golden example is how Firaxis remade XCOM and then finally made a proper sequel to it.
>>750856103k, and they remade Metroid Prime Remastered only to shit out Metroid Prime 4. It doesn't work and is wasted time.
>>750856164Metroid was already doomed due to Ninja's fiasco.
>>750856164>>750856251And speaking of Metroid, MercurySteam remade Metroid 2 before making Dread, and soon Ravenous. Remakes exist to train new developers since all the old ones are rotting away, and are not a waste of time.
>>750856304They are a waste of time.
>>750856325No argument? I accept your concession that you are wrong and I am correct. Have a good day.
>>750855976He’s stressed because he knows the PS6 can’t not be a disaster.
>>750856364You don't have an argument.
>>750856446he doesn't need to argue because you are too much of a bitch to come up with one.
>>750856473You are a fat cocksucking cow.
>>750856601gonna cry?gonna cry those bitch tears?
>>750855434Hacknuma keeps butting his head into spots he had nothing to do with originally. He was never one for exploration before the BotW overcorrection and doesn't understand game design on a fundamental level beyond dungeons. SS's overworld is the perfect example of this.
>>750855558They had to come up with their own vision and actualize it. Mario 64 has such tactile movement because Miyamoto was that invested in how it felt. OoT had a lot of that same care put into it, but that was one of the last projects he directly worked on. Not everyone else in charge of OoT had the same mindset or capability, and they made the worst choice in who to take over for him going forward. >>750855629I remember hearing a very long time ago that Mario Galaxy was required work for new blood at Nintendo. I wonder if there was any truth to it.
I just want a Zelda game that's open enough to feel like an adventure but with limited enough resources that you have to plan and manage encounters carefully. You can't just rush to endgame.
>>750855235I don't treat NSMB slop as mainline Mario games.
why do nintendo fans like mario so much the games are so boring, made for toddlers, each boss in odyssey and bananza (a mario game) requries only 3 hits and are so easy you can sleep doing them
>>750849053An proper OOT was long overdue, fuck you I'm excited
>>750855585>still getting filtered by durability
>putting zoomer devs to work on reamking an old work so they can learn thingsthis is supposed to be bad?
>>750856601Wew lad. Sure showed him...
>>750859064Says the cocksucking cow.
>>750855558Mario 64 and OoT were made by the most talentent people in the industry with lots of time to test around what works. The remake is a mass training ground for the shit ton of lesser people you need to make a modern AAA game
>>750859129malding baby bitch
>>750858991A game that features boredom as a core mechanic is objectively niggershit.
>>750858495Proper Oot would be an open world with lots of new story and content. Perfect idea, kys
As a reminder Breath of the Wild is nearly ten years old. So any developers at Nintendo were hired on in the past ten years have possibly developed>Breath of the Wild>Tears of the Kingdom>Echoes of WisdomAnd that's it. Skyward Sword HD is just an HD remaster, it's not a new game. These new devs need to know how classic Zelda was developed.
i wouldn't care if the remade the entire Toon Zelda trilogy
>we're helping train them on making new games>we're teaching them that puzzles need to be blaring and obvious, difficulty should be nonexistent, and graphics take priority over gameplayThe snoy special. wonderful.
>>750853640I'm legitimately glad at least that they seem to have not done this. Like, the fact that most of the female NPCs have their original figure is incredible. You can't help but breath a sigh of relief seeing Malon keep her good ol' farmgirl hips and bust.
>>750859041From what we've seen of the remake, they didn't take much away from it. The only real changes are an unnecessary jump button and a bunch of combat simplifications to what's already an easy game. Miyamoto and the other system/script directors needed to be much more involved.
>>750847880>by learning the game structure and development style behind the originalAt least he knows what he needs to learn. That's progress.
>>750854918>the shitty linear 3d Zelda gamesOoT is great specifically because of how exceptionally non-linear it is without being structure-less.
