>It’s over Anakin! I have the high grou-AAAACK!
>>750848325This is why we should abandon life like graphics and 300 FPS , this looks perfectly fine.
>>750848784Nah. We need good graphics to get an advantage over people who don't turn off shadows and foliage in fps games.
I get sexually turned on by the hero being defeated
>>750848325I remember playing this game on the PS2
Why'd they change the line?
>>750849228I think it makes sense to slightly change the line to fit an alternate scenario, it gives interesting implications
>>750848325Well, that's what Darth Maul did with Qui-Gon.
>>750849228His ego got him fucked up in the original. But this time, he places his trust in the dark side of the force instead of himself and succeeds.
i only saw the trilogy and prequels once when i was too young to remember anything (mid teens) can someone explain why light sabers sometimes just disintegrated your entire body (but not clothes) on touch and other times sliced through like a regular ass sword?they were scarier when i thought they turned people into vapor
>>750849725lmao this lil nigga scared of lightsabers ahahahaha
>>750849725They don't disintegrate your bodythat was obi wan ascending to become a force ghost
>>750849096is the first panel supposed to be implying that people only turn off bloom and depth of field for framerate and not because it looks fucking retarded
>>750848325Damn, Obi Wan could have had him. He just swung a bit too soon.
>>750850150No. It's saying turning off that shit gave the biggest bump in fps. It's like volumetric fog in MHW sucking up your fps while also devouring all the color.
>>750850582This has to be the worst implementation of volumetric fog in vidya I have seen in a while
>>750850582Top looks better
>>750850781>gif This thread is basically done, see if you can figure it out
>>750850871What are you babbling about
>>750848325I could have tanked that.
>>750850824>fog obscuring the tip of the ship, a few yards away, in the middle of a sunny, unclouded dayI know you're pretending to be retarded but I wanted to point it out anyway.
>>750850582I cant be the only who who thought world looked like burbled ass right?
>>750849096turning off foilage is so soulless. just like exploiting gamma settings its as bad as hacking.
>>750848325He also kills Palestine in this ending so…not all bad
>You underestimate my power!is a better line for Darth Vader on Mustafar than>You underestimate the Dark Side of the Force!
>>750850871meds
>>750848325basedfucking kicked that nigga in the lava like he were fuckin garbage
>>750848325You killed Maul when he had the high ground you tard, why did you think it would make you invincible?
>>750854903brown coded post
>>750854915Maul got btfo while having the high ground because he was peacocking around celebrating the win. Obi-Wan remained on guard for a dude trying to jump over him.
>>750849449That's not what Maul did to Qui-Gon, it's what Obi-Wan did to Maul. That's specifically why he tells Anakin not to try it.
>>750848325This was a fun game.I wish there were more like it.
>>750855004not coded it was pretty explicit
Dooku was the true hero of Star Wars
>>750850582What even is volumetric fog supposed to do in a game?
>>750854915
>>750855135>Replaced Maul who everyone loves>Just an old guy>Begging on his knees before being beheaded
>>750855726>Begginghe was silent though? He could have easily spilled the beans on palps but he kept his mouth shut because ???
>>750855726He was supposed to beg but Christopher Lee said "Dooku ain't no bitch" and George Lucas said "o-okay..."
She could have saved him...
>>750849228>>750849668In canon, he was deliberately throwing himself into certain death to try to re-activate his Chosen One state (basically Force Super Saiyan where he could control the Force without limitations) that he achieved during Operation Knightfall but lost when he killed the kids, because that truly destabilized him and caused him to doubt himself forever afterwards (realized he was no better than the Tuskens that he despised). Before he got BBQed, Anakin hadn't truly embraced the Dark Side, he was still trying to maintain a sort of balance in the hopes of getting back into form. And then he thought he would be able to activate it again if he was truly in mortal peril. He was wrong.
>>750855686Also obi wan can get like 15 frames of invincibility if he can GALINT onto that platform fast enough.
>>750854915doesn't make any fuckin sense either way, they're neither using ranged weapons nor will running up an incline tire them out or even slow them down
>>750856145This sounds like complete bullshit.
>>750848325Can't wait to play this boss fight in Kingdom Hearts _V
The sith burned books, Anakin!>What kind of books?
>>750856145>re-activate his Chosen One state (basically Force Super Saiyan where he could control the Force without limitations) that he achieved during Operation Knightfall
>>750848325Post the continuation with Palpitine
>>750856101Filoni is going to use his power as President of LucasFilm to make it so Vader was really thinking about Ahsoka Tano when he turned on Palpatine rather than his love for his son.
>>750856145This guy sounds like he's full of shit but there is a reason Anakin doesn't have his Sith eyes until Obi-Wan sets him on fire and leaves him to die. He's angry and murderous but he doesn't really channel the hatred until the fight is already over.
>>750856310It's from the mouth of Lucas in an interview where he explained the Chosen One state and how Anakin could single-handedly take out the hundreds of Jedi still left in the Jedi Temple during Knightfall with just a single battalion of Clone Troopers. Anakin in the Chosen One state could simply cut off the Jedi from the Force. The Chosen One had full mastery over all the Force powers by being able to manipulate the midichlorians completely. Anakin wasn't going to kill the kids at all but then the padawan called him "Master", in the Council Room specifically, with all the emotional baggage that phrase carried in that particular place, and he went into a rage and murdered them all. Then got depressed, lost his balance and belief in himself and never recovered. Which would have been great to actually show in the damn movie but Lucas sucks as a director when doing his own scripts because he just assumes the audience has the inner knowledge of the scene that he does.
>>750856101
>>750856760Source?
>Luke, do you remember that time when a crazy Inquisitor bitch tried murdering you with a lightsaber? Your aunt and uncle tried fighting her off with blasters and she chased you into the desert. I wasn't even here to protect you. You're only alive because she got cold feet at the last second.>She was a good friend.
>>750849725The one time in A New Hope was Obi-Wan becoming a Force Ghost as he died.
>>750856496The power of orange butt cheeks is stronger than the dark side.
>>750849725It's so funny how Darth Vader starts quizzically prodding Obi-Wan's robes with his foot.>what the fuck? that's never happened before. where the fuck did he go?
>>750857637It's like he was expecting to find a mini Obi Wan hidden in the robes or something.>Did he just use Force Shrink? Is that a thing?
>>750857637>Oh fuck, did he actually become more powerful than I can possibly imagine?
>>750857637>Drats! Another decoy!
>>750856760is this something he talked about when the movie came out or was it several years later he did a retcon of his powers
>>750856760Lucas never said any of that shit
>>750848784Graphics yes. No game really needs to look better than Witcher 3 as an example. Frame rate matters though.
>>750848325Man, these people took my kids from me. Then they froze my Jedi account. I got so much anger in me. Got no way to take it out. Think I'm stuck in a vision. Where the hell's my division? Yes I am a Sith. I like when I kill bank kids. The shit that I'm posting on the holonet. They tell me Vader don't say that. How bankcattle can't see me in public? I'm piloting a chrome TIEbach. With all of the power and credits I still can't get my kids back. With all of the power and credits I still don't get to see my children. Bankcattle see my holonet, but they don't see how I be feeling. So I became a Sith Lord, yeah. Bitch, I'm the villain.
>>750857553>>750857235>>750856810>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pa53Brl3QZo
>>750849228>Why'd they change the line?3rd party studio made the game, had different voice actors and the movie was being finalized. There's even additional dialogue in the movie clips for the PS2 game that were removed in the final cut of the film, namely the dialogue Dooku says to Anakin and Obi-Wan before they fight.
>>750854915>You killed Maul when he had the high ground you tard, why did you think it would make you invincible?It's a bigger high ground.
>>750856496>Expanded universe working overtime with great games and novels and comics that damn near make up for the prequels being so lame>this nigger comes and vacuums up the entire franchise's budget with his dogshit cartoon What the absolute fuck was his problem?
>>750859628>and she was a good friend
>>750857742why is being a force ghost powerful
>>750860014Because they can fly anywhere and buttrape you in your sleep and you can't do anything about it.
>>750860014>why is being a force ghost powerfulIt isn't. Obi-Wan is full of shit. The truth is 'a certain point of view' remember.
>>750849171Because you're a woman. This is why women like true crime as well.
>>750857637>Is it possible to learn this power?
>>750856760Crazy how he said all of this and then put literally none of it into the movie that HE MADE
>>750856145Not killing him was a dick move desu.
>>750849096>the egamer fag lashes outFuck off multiplayer trash loser.
Wish we had more Qui Gonn side stories
>you underestimate my power! >you underestimate my understanding of basic military strategy
>>750855686
>>750849725Fuck off you shouldn't be allowed on the internet.
>>750848325You know, this would have made a lot more sense if Anakin had used Force Lightning there. It'd show that Obi-Wan really did underestimate the Dark Side. It'd demonstrate Anakin adopting one of Palpatine's dark side skills. And you could still have the lightning short circuit the machinery Anakin was on, dunking him into the magma by his own hubris.
>2026>still unmatched
>>750860014They're immortal, I assume. Anakin's whole turn to the dark side was to try and prevent his wife's death. Darth Plagueis also on the quest for immortality via the dark side. There's a bit of irony in the fact that those who found eternal life (or at least existence) were the furthest from the dark side and weren't actively pursuing it anyway.
>>750856313Leaks say we're playing OT
>>750860014It means you get to live forever in Space Heaven. That means you won.
>>750848325based, he's literally meday of the pillow for gen xer statists NOW
>>750860475Anakin can actually use Force Lightning in the game too. Though in this circumstance, Obi-Wan would just deflect it with his lightsaber.
>>750860603
>>750860603>>750860679We are Anakin
>>750848325>the 'I have the high-ground' virgin vs the chad 'The geography that I stands compares you superior'
>>750860603Replace 'fascist' with 'buttgoy kikeslave' and you have an accurate evolution of Anakin.The Empire is meant to be a stand-in for America according to Lucas.
>>750860895lol what
>>750860932Deathstar blowing up Alderaan is Japan being nuked.
>>750848325Obi wan should have used the schwartz
>>750848325I mean Obi could just Force Push him mid jump
>>750861009But these guys are the space japanese
>>750861112>But these guys are the space japaneseNah, the Chinese.
This is one of the gayest psyops I've ever seen happen on the internet. Holy shit. Was some groyper struck by inspiration while tonguing the anus of whatever commie faggot they're sucking off this week?
>>750860329Those books about how he took on Obi-Wan as his apprentice and them fighting his old apprentice who became an edgelord were kino
>>750861168They backstab and initially take the form of a grub-like maggot like the Chinese but they build robots and do math like the Japs
>>750861245>psyopsBwahahaha. You really pulling the 'muh Russia' bollocks.
>every rando internet meme that gets somewhat poplular is le psyop/right-wing dogwhistle
>>750860512>Red female twi'lek JadenBased (and canon).
>>750861289Bud, the Changs are literally building humanoid robots right now.
>>750861394such a thicc ass
>>750861463
>>750861517certain alien races were simply made for the pleasure of human men
>>750861432I love that pic so much
>>750856810god ahsoka was so cute
>>750861432
WHEN I SAY SORRY, YOU SAY GEORGE!SORRY
>>750861983I never doubted you, Mr. Lucas
>>750861554Indeed.https://i.4cdn.org/h/1793678891007132.png
God damn I love twi'leks.
Accept this eternal trvke.
>>750862215>Stop expecting better than trash!How very long nosed of you.
>>750862369Hating the Prequels is jew coded tho
>>750862467>Having standards is jewish???
>>750848325>doesn't show the rest of the kino
>>750862150>asaraigrossotherwise gud
>>750860538I'm OK with anything except the Sequels.
>>750861983Sorry for what? I never doubted you Lucas sama.
>>750863168Not sure why he would do this, considering Padme hasn't died at this point and Palpatine is basically the only one (at least to him) trying to keep her alive.
>>750863801Anakin on Mustafar is coo-coo for cocoa puffs on The Dark Side™When Padme shows up, he explicitly tells her that he can and will usurp Palpatine. He fell because he wanted to save Padme's life, but on Mustafar he was just enjoying the power flowing from the Dark Side.
>didn't save padmestill a loser
>>750863801He cut the webm off too soon. He proceeds to stab Padme as well.
is there any worse existence in SW than that of a male Twigger?
>>750860932The ending celebration scene in A New Hope is literally a 1:1 copy of Triumph of the Will. There's actually a lot of subtle dog whistles all over the movies. Lucas is actually /ourguy/.
>>750864208i really miss those younglings, man
>>750849171Thank you for your contribution, foid
>>750865662Old light saber duels were so fucking cool.
>>750848325
>>750856145>his Chosen One state (basically Force Super Saiyan where he could control the Force without limitations) that he achieved during Operation Knightfall but lost when he killed the kids, because that truly destabilized him and caused him to doubt himself forever afterwardsI do believe you just made that up
>>750860751>>750860603cringe
>>750856145>>750856310>>750856371>>750856678>>750866126Oh man.I hate being someone who actually read the old EUhttps://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Oneness/Legends
>>750866014This is retarded.
>>750855726>gets tired of mauls bullshit after he’s found Wish he stayed dead. Palps pushing his shit in was my favorite part of his arc.
>>750865989Boomers and Gen X can't follow fast (slow down for the movie) lightsaber duels. I won't be surprised if reddit letter media were shitting their pants in that Ben vs Maul.
>>750866227>This is retardedTriggered.
>>750866287No, it's just retarded.
>>750861983Did he have to sell to yidsney?
>>750866268Where have you seen anyone complain about the TPM fight?
>>750866225>old euHe said canon
>>750866395you really wanna do this?
>>750865662I hear it, so do you....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_2bluVPsb0
>>750866429There is no music in that scene. Just the lightsabers hitting.
>>750866393Sequel trilogy. All of the light saber duels were fucking lame and gay. If the higher ups wanted fast as fuck duels, they would have retained it.
>>750866393RLM bitched that it was over choreographed and akin to dancing rather than fighting
>>750866519That's not what I said.
>>750866542I don't recall them saying that about the TPM fight. And why are you so obsessed with RLM?
>>750866342Triggered.
>>750866654Yeah you already said that.
>>750866542RLM isn't wrong that it is akin to dancing. For me, it's just enough, unlike say the circus performances you got from the modern films like The Hobbit. Effortless acrobatic fight scenes have no tension, meaning there's zero reason to have any investment in them. They can be good if you want to convey someone styling on lowly plebs, but even that has to be reigned in that it doesn't overstay its welcome.
>>750866416Maybe...
>>750866702>Yeah you already said thatI can say it to you again if you like.
>>750866542The duels in AOTC look like absolute ass. Choreography is bad, editing is bad. Most of the ones in ROTS are bad, besides the final one, which is still overindulgent, but overall is exciting despite a few stupid bits. The one in TPM is excellent.
>>750866916You might as well just write your own replies dude, you're clearly trying to do this le epik troll routine with your twitter picture, but sorry, nobody here cares, it's just lame.
>>750866960why are you replying to some underage shartyfagthere's no point to it
>>750866960Anon, you're fucking triggered over a goddamn AI image that is being used as social commentary over the state of the current boomer liberal system. It is why you replied to it in the first place, and it is why you are hanging out in this thread when you could just leave and never think about it again. But go on, reply to me again to show me you're definitely not triggered.
>>750854915>>750856198What he says doesn't make sense (he makes it sound like having the high ground is itself the advantage), but he knows what Anakin's about to try because he did it to Maul years ago, therefore he's prepared to counter it. Why it didn't work in the alternate ending is a mystery.
this doo really caw ahh niggin
>>750867157>he current boomer liberal system.by posting AI images of a guy who got his dick burned off?
>>750860014when you die you return to The Force so dying yet still keeping your individuality is pretty nuts
>>750855609It's old hardware optimization. The game can simply make everything past the fog look like shit and hide it so the pc doesn't need to waste time rendering stuff that's far away.It's useless nowadays.
>>750849171Same, but only when the hero is a woman.
>>750867552so liam neeson was also a force ghost somewhat too, right, and luke at the very very end where he said see you around kidstill weird
>>750867865Liam Neeson's Qui-Gon Jinn appears as a full Force Ghost in the Kenobi show and Luke Skywalker appears as a Force Ghost when he shows up to approve of Rey Palpatine masquerading as Rey Skywalker.
>>750860603>fascist>still a servant to a wrinkly old man pulling the strings who holds all the real powerlmao>>750867865>so liam neeson was also a force ghost somewhat too, rightDoesn't Obi-Want get told this at the end of RotS.
>>750856101One of the few good decisions disney made was making it clear that she couldn’t, and only Luke could. Though given the tantrum Kennedy threw when someone made Luke look good, I’m assuming that whoever wrote it had to obfuscate like a madman to get it past her.
>>750868209>Doesn't Obi-Want get told this at the end of RotS.Yes, Yoda tells him that he will put him in touch with an old friend for training; and we also hear Qui-Gon's voice calling out for Anakin in anguish as Anakin slimes the Tusken Raiders in AotC.
>>750868301>One of the few good decisions disney made was making it clear that she couldn’t, and only Luke could.Twilight of the Apprentice is good but it could have even been better if Vader killed Ahsoka then.
I've never watched this slop. Does he really say that it's ''over'' because he has ''the high ground.'' Like he won the fight because he is literally higher?
>>750868209Fascist not anarchist you stupid fuck.
Ahsoka Tano wouldn't piss me off so much if she was Filoni's buttboy Plo Koon's Padawan who often got linked up with Obi-Wan and Anakin.But then she wouldn't be the super special student of the Chosen One
>>750849725Lightsabers don't vaporize, that was Obi-Wan using an ancient technique Qui-Gon taught him called Force Blink
>>750868015>>750867865>>750868209>>750868312We were supposed to get dialogue from Qui-Gon but liam neeson was unavailable apparently.For some reason George never bothered to add these lines in a special edition
>>750866014>>750867362Imagine being a petty officer on a Star Destroyer with loli Admiral Leia as your CO...
>>750868738Tiny Carrie Fisher doing lines of coke off the armrests of the command chair.
>you underestimate my pow-AAAACK!
>>750869402>you were my brother Anakin... I loved you!>*lets him burn slowly rather than putting him out of his misery*>*steals his lightsaber and leaves*
>>750869402is
>Obi wan misses COMPLETELY instead of Anakin doing a mid air parry into a strikeWell that was embarrassing to watch.
>>750869639He didn't think Anakin could possibly jump so high, since he underestimated the Dark Side of the Force.
>>750869668Jedi reflexes are so great they win intergalactic podracing as kids but seeing someone jump a little higher than (jedi)normal fucks them up? Obi wan didn't go easy on him in the original scenario either so there's no hesitation to imply.
>>750855016Obi-Wan is stabbed through, like Qui-Gon.It's like poetry, it rhymes.
>>750869526He showed him the same mercy he showed the younglings
>>750869885>when u nuttin but she keep suckin
>Greatest duelist in the lore>Reduced to a tutorial fight in the game
>>750869954I mean he kinda was for Anakin at that point
>>750869954Dooku was always a shitter. He fancied himself a refined duelist because he was born into nobility and set expectations for himself, not because he was actually good.
>>750869954>Doo Doo
>>750869954Dooku was overpowered by AnakinGood dueling skills are only part of how much you can succeed. Anakin was a great duelist too but most importantly was LEAGUES above Dooku, remember Dooku is Mace level which is below Yoda level who is below Palpatine. Anakin at full potential (decades in the future) is way above Palps so here he's like below Yoda levels of strength.Obi-Wan beats him in Mustafar by exploiting his wrath and despair, and because Soresu counters his Djem So>>750870025Nah Dooku was the most skilled Form 2 duelist below Palps who was a master of all the forms and could rape anyone if he wanted
>>750870272How did Palp lose to Mace then?
>timestop>casts instant death that ignores all resistances and immunities
>>750870310hold a moment let me consult my fanfiction
>>750870310Palpatine actually isn't a God tier duelist like Mace, Yoda, Dooku, Anakin, Obi-Wan. He's a wizard who looks down on lightsabers in general, which is why he loses to Mace in their duel and why he just gives up on dueling Yoda in general
>>750870310Either he threw the fight knowing Anakin was on his way or Vaapad really is just a broken, bullshit "I win" button against any Dark Side user.Personally I think that it's more thematically weighty if Palpatine threw the fight (and that only the Chosen One could ever actually bring down the Sith), though I believe Lucas has been all in on Windu outfighting him.
>>750870310Palps was holding himself back to dueling without really using his Force powers cause he knew Anakin was comingMace's Vapaad is described in multiple sources including the RotS novel (which isn't fanfiction, it was line edited by George Lucas himself) to basically take the Dark Side Force power and throw it back, reflecting it into the opponent. Even then Mace was barely holding onLucas has stated Palps did genuinely lose the duel but was absolutely faking being that weak and powerless, he could have won it but just threw it knowing it was prime time to turn Anakin to the Dark Side by making Mace look like a hypocrite.>>750870342Wrong, Palps is a master of all forms and has been for the longest timeHe doesn't give up in dueling Yoda, he just decides to finally reveal his true power having finally won and starts throwing the senate at him
>>750870342Palpatine instantly executed two Jedi Masters who had their guard up and then immediately killed a third before throwing down with Mace Windu for an extended period. He's absolutely one of the strongest lightsaber duelists in Star Wars whether or not Mace Windu actually beat him.
>>750870342thats cope though. reddit said that he threw the fight intentionally to get Anakin to kill Mace and corrupt him.
Palpatine threw the fight in the novelization and it was cooler than in the movie so I choose to believe it.
>>750870328If Ainz killed a jedi with the spell that he used on Gazef, would the jedi be able to become a force ghost?
does anyone else find it odd that both the most powerful Jedi and most powerful Sith in the Star Wars movies are both incels?
>>750870516I don't like the changes the novelization has from the film (which are Stover's own changes or from earlier scripts) but it's kino how Mace misunderstands the Shatterpoint and believes Palpatine is scared when in reality it's AnakinMace was so blinded by his ego that he was responsible for the Clone Wars and that only he could stop Palpatine that he didn't see how Palpatine had gotten Anakin on his side and that he was only helping pushing Anakin to the dark
>>750859646>ImageWould the Empire be better or worse in the Total Anakin Victory timeline?
tbdesu seeing this old grandpa supposedly being a godly lightsaber user always felt a little weird to me. but maybe that's part of his deception plan
>>750870668Anakin would do a good job leading the Empire if he embraced Palpatine's teachings for a few decades before murdering him.If he shanks him on Mustafar like in the alternate game ending, he won't be able to handle the political gamesmanship that Palpatine had to do for the next twenty years.
>>750870668This wouldn't happen1. Anakin wasn't happy about murdering the Jedi, he was clearly sad2. Anakin wasn't doing it to "become stronger", he was doing it because he was convinced the Jedi had betrayed the Republic and wanted to kill Palpatine3. Anakin wouldn't have decided to kill Palpatine so soon, he loved him like a dad cause that's what he basically was, a father figure and he was bluffing with Padme
>>750848325What if scenarios are always neat, like if Anakin had defeated Obi-Wan and not turned into Darth Vader. I wonder what he would have looked like? I figured he'd look the same, but his eyes would be yellow, and his skin would turn pale/sickly, also he'd probably lose his hair despite being so handsome/young. A lot of sith are old looking, but I figured that was a symptom of the dark side of the force. I thought it rapidly aged you.
>>750870747Anakin might have seen Palpatine as a father figure, but Darth Vader didn't. Darth Vader wanted to kill him right away, not just because of the implicit threat but out of a genuine sense of disgust because he was an inferior master to obiwan
>>750869571Allah Gold...
>>750866416EU is fanfiction trash.
>>750870749Palpy looked great for a Sith lord before he melted his own face fooling Mace
>>750870749While the games and supplemental material lean into the Dark Side turning you into a wrinkled vampire; per the movies, George seemed to be taking this route before moving off of it. Palpatine in Attack of the Clones looks like shit, aged and decrepit as if the Dark Side is aging him prematurely; before he becomes nearly as revitalized as he looks in Episode I for Episode III before taking a load of lightning to the face and remaining the deformed Emperor for the remainder of his life. So it seems like George was going to have the Dark Side fuck you up physically before turning his back on that.Unburnt Vader would probably remain a turbochad for a long, long time.
>>750870790Darth Vader isn't a different identity to Anakin, Vader IS Anakin. Vader didn't consider Sidious a threatAlso Vader considered Obi-Wan far worse because Palpatine had convinced him that Obi-Wan had seduced Padme which Obi-Wan unwittingly "proved" to Anakin on MustafarLucas has stated repeatedly Vader still loved Palpatine up to RotJ where he was to make the final decision to stand up for his son's true unconditional love over Palpatine's conditional power-based "love"
>>750870462Lucas himself said Mace beat Sidious in the saber duel. It's the force struggle after where Palpatine was probably faking it
>>750870894Sad!
>>750870894>Darth Vader is'nt a different identity to Anakin, Vader IS Anakin. Depends on the iteration and how you perceive it. In the "remakes" there is that popular scene/line where Vader tells Obi-Wan that he didn't kill Anakin; I did. Anakin is so far gone that he believes Vader is a different person/persona from Anakin Skywalker and it was the stronger persona. Anakin Skywalker was weak compared to Darth Vader.
>"Master Yoda I think I'm getting visions where my wi- I mean my good friend Padme dies what should we do">"Train yourself to let go of everything you fear to lose">"..........."
>>750871002Vader does the same thing in the original trilogy.>That name no longer holds any meaning to me.He's coping hard, which is revealed by the Return of the Jedi line>It's too late for me, my son.Acknowledging that Anakin is still there, but he's damned.
Does any eu material address the elephant in the room that Obi Wan is stronger than "the chosen one" at his peak and out performs him in the climax of the war?
>>750870747Now I want to see this just for silly character dynamics. Like Uncle Sheev telling the bedtime story of Darth Plageious the Wise to Luke and Leia.
>>750867362Who is "they"?
>>750870907Mace beat Sidious because Sidious was holding backPalps could have used all kinds of wacky tricks to win but just did a good old duel cause he knew who was coming>>750871002You mean Disneyslop?Cause yes, the Kenobi show rapes the films. I don't think I need to explain the many ways Disneyslop sucks balls.>>750871052>That name no longer holds any meaning to me.Meaning Vader has divorced himself from the Anakin persona because of how much guilt he harbors. That does not mean he considers Anakin "weak" or that he believes he "killed" Anakin. He explicitly acknowledges in ANH that he was Obi-Wan's learner.It's Obi-Wan who tells Luke that Vader killed Anakin, not Vader. Also Vader is obviously lying because he desperately wants Luke to join him.>It's too late for me, my son.This is just referring to, you know, being alive. He was dying after Palpatine shocked him.Anakin isn't damned, he explicitly is redeemed and becomes a Force Ghost Jedi.
>>750860545>anakin gets to join after a lifetime of evil because he was sowwy right at the endis the light side just christianity
>>750871067Obi-Wan is not stronger than Anakin, nor does he outperform him during the war.He defeats him in combat due to being more in control of himself and baiting Anakin into making a mistake. He never overpowers him.
>>750871150What's going through Obi Wan's mind in this moment
>>750871150This battle is so funny with how much Dooku beats the fuck out of Obi-Wan despite the two trying to "work together"Just shows how weak Obi-Wan actually is, he won because Anakin was unstable in Mustafar. If Anakin had been smart there were thousands of times he could have left or beaten Obi-Wan, but he was losing his mind and fucked it all up
>>750856101ORANGE CREAMSICLE FUCKMEAT
>>750871143>lifetime of evil Ignoring all the good he does in the past and him saving the galaxy from the SithAlso the complicit nature of the Jedi in his downfall>is the light side just christianityYes, Lucas is a buddhist methodist and the Force is a mix of christianity with buddhist stuffRegardless both philosophies heavily advocate for people redeeming themselves and the good in mankind (even when twisted into evil) which is Lucas' point, even with Palpatine despite how much the entire fanbase wants to ignore that lol
>>750871067Ep 3 booksome call it cheesy, but it really adresses every logical problem with the movie.
>>750871067obi was on the backfoot the entire time being defensive but luckily his saber style is elder god tier at defensei think anakin losing his arm lowered his memechlorians or whatever which is probably why the force push struggle was a draw
>>750871139>This is just referring to, you know, being alive. He was dying after Palpatine shocked him.Not that line; I'm referring to Vader speaking with Luke before he brings him to the Emperor.>Luke: Search your feelings, Father. You can't do this, I feel the conflict within you, let go of your hate!>Vader: ... It is too late for me, son. The Emperor will show you the true nature of the Force.
>>750871195>Sith Lords are our specialty.
>both plapatine and vader discuss bringing luke overrule of two indeed
>>750871286The movie doesn't have as many "problems" as people claim it hasThe novel is nice in a lot of its buildup but being based on early scripts for RotS has some distinct character portrayals and things that make no sense, IE Anakin gleefully killing the Separatists while making puns or Sidious bragging about Anakin "killing the people he loves">>750871349Midichlorian loss is one of the most retarded things Lucas came up with honestly and the one thing I ignoreAnakin was cocky and lost cause he was cocky. He never surpassed Sidious because of his mental anguish after Mustafar. Simple as.>>750871358Oh well yeah but still Luke proves him wrong.Regardless I don't think Vader considers Anakin "dead". I think he just believes he cannot be redeemed until Luke's love wins him over.>>750871448Vader wanted to bring him in and betray Palpatine and Sheev wanted to corrupt him and let him kill Vader so yeah, Rule of Two
>>750870328>Becomes more powerful than you can possibly imagineTotal Ainz defeat
>>750848325>top 3 character in the universe gets beaten by a mid-tier Jedi at bestROTS has dog shit writing.
>>750871195>It's over, Dooku! Now I have the high gro-OWWWWWW *THUNK* zzzzzzzzzzz
>>750871549Actually using the force to lift Obi Wan was a genius ploy by Dooku here, it deprived Obi Wan of the ground entirely, the no ground if you will, thereby disarming him of high or low ground advantages.
>>750871501I could see Anakin dropping sick one liners on the CIS council as he exterminates them. He hates those fuckers; he's been fighting their underlings in a war for years, and now he's finally unleashed. He no longer has to suppress his emotions, and he's always been a snarky guy (and continues to be snarky in the suit in the OT). I think Vader openly enjoying himself while he murders the Separatists is more reasonable than doing it in silence like a horror movie slasher villain.
>>750867362what did he mean by this? does he think lucas would go in this direction but the wo(o)kies made him change his story or something? he can't be that retarded
>>750849725Lightsabers don't disintegrate your body, anon; they make a hole, and the massive amount of ionized plasma instantly cauterizes your wound, which is why you don't see blood spewing out of a wound.
>>750868209>still a servant to a wrinkly old man pulling the strings who holds all the real powerYes, fascist.
>>750871658It makes no sense. He's in agony, just murdered the entire Jedi Order which he feels insanely guilty for even if he believes it was the "right thing to do", he hates the Separatists but he doesn't enjoy mindlessly murdering them. He isn't doing it in silence, we literally see him crying, he's in anguish over his guilt. Going around doing puns and even later giving Obi-Wan a chance to leave "for old times' sake" makes no fucking sense.His snark in the OT is overexaggerated, he's often very angry and emotional and serious. He's snarky whenever he's dealing with a situation he doesn't fear or have much stake in. It isn't like modern "hurrhurr CHOKE ON YOUR ASPIRATIONS, get it Krennic?" Disney Vader
>>750871501>Sidious bragging about Anakin "killing the people he loves"Kek a very funny exchange >So easily slain, Obi-Wan is not. >Neither are you apparently; but that is about to change.
What's /v/'s opinion of the clone brain chips?
Don't take Star Wars seriously
>>750871792It's funny but it ignores that the film (and commentary and later interviews) have George explain Palpatine genuinely believes he's the good guy so he isn't this pathetic "hurr durr I'm so evil harharhar" character>>750871804Gay bullshit that betrays the films let alone the CWMMP and Lucas/Filoni retconned in with TCW which is antiPT central
So if Anakin never lost his real body parts and trained as a Sith for 10 years he would be unbeatable?
>>750871804>mfw Lucas had to take away all culpability from the Clones because he let Filoni turn them into people rather than vat grown soldiers
>>750871804Disliked them when they were part of the EU, where it interfered with a bunch of existing canon. Don’t really mind them in disney canon, since they're actually fleshed out a bit and aren't competing with other ideas.
>>750871914Yes. Darth Vader topped out at 80% of Palpatine, but would have easily surpassed Palpatine if not burnt. And literally nobody could beat Palpatine.
>>750861085Most of slopwars falls apart under any kind of scrutiny
>>750871804the episode where the clone finds out the consipracy and gets put down as a schizo was cool but its not worth everything else the chips bring
>>750871914I don't know. Ask George.>>750871804They're... fine. TCW did too good of a job with the clones and made them too likeable they needed a way to 'save' some characterised clones.
>>750871898>Face differs from Template because we could not afford Temura Morrison to stand still for five minutes
>>750872047>my heckin Rex would never, the clones must have been mind controlled!TCW is a disaster.
>>750872105Someone should add Rex to this chart
Karen Traviss’ ragequit was justified in retrospect when you see how pussified the mandalorians are in TCW. The clones adopting mandalorian culture was kino
every jedi master gets punked by like 5 clones betraying them? not my spunky orange padawan! she parries every single blaster while completely surrounded and escapes!
how would someone like Goku fare in the Star Wars universe?
>>750859140I finished the last of Us remake for ps5 and to me the graphics for this game should be the maximum a game company should attempt. Perfecly balanced between good performance and quasi realistic graphics. Higher than this is diminishing returns and a net negative for the consoomer
The prequels would’ve been so much better if they followed this format:>Prologue: Phantom Menace>Episode 1: Attack of the Clones>Episode 2: The Clone Wars>Episode 3: Revenge of the SithWould’ve also made it impossible for Filoni to slop it up with his shitty cartoon.
>>750872143Traviss was proto-Filoni retard, she retconned lore created by people from ILM and Lucas' close circles to add her heckin' Mando badass slopAlso utter bullshit like Jaina going to Boba Fett to learn to fight Sith and not Luke KEEEEEEEK
im ok with clone wars overall exept for the art stylewho OKd that fucking dooku model
For me it’s Alpha 17
>>750872210Fact. TPM was irrelevant in the grand scheme of things even if it looked cool
>>750872384Alpha is based but he ain't the GOAT, plus the writers pussied out like Filoni did in TCW and had him be kidnapped by Ventress instead of having him work for the Empire>>750872210>>750872397Nah, TPM is kino and extremely important to set up the beginning of Palpatine's rule, the galaxy's corruption and degradation and Padme, Anakin and Obi-Wan's backgroundsWhereas you don't need to see the Clone Wars to understand RotS
>>750872482>TPM is kino and extremely important to set up the beginning of Palpatine's ruleThat’s exactly why you make it the prologue movie.It’s important to the story, but the story they wanted to tell simply didn’t fit into 3 movies.
The problem with star wars with me is the scale.You have these stories and conflicts that are equivalent of ones that could happen in a country or its continent.But then it's supposed to span planets and galaxies. Like that repeated bullshit of exploding an entire planet for a minor tactical or political advantage etc.
>>750849171I want to punch your womb.
>>750872638they use entire planets to show off one citywhy are they colonizing 3000 planets if each planet only holds as many people as a small midwestern town aside from coruscant and maybe nar shaddaa
Is it worth it to go through like 10 seasons of clone wars?
>>750848325We’ll never have this much sovl in video games ever again
>>750872710this show had Durge and Grievous as villains. it's the last time you could call SW remotely badass. that was over 23 years ago.
>>750872746No.Watch the Samurai Jack Clone Wars cartoon instead.
>>750872710Why don’t they make anything like this now wtf happened
>>750849171based and hideaki anno pilled
>TCW makes a big deal out of Maul’s return>Dooku doesn’t seem bothered in the slightest that the man who killed someone he considered a surrogate son is still aliveWasted arc
>>750848325Should have used the high ground to fire jedi energy or whatever rather than talk smack.
>>750871549Dooku should have been killed much later in the film, like the halfway point. Make Grievous fight Obi Wan and Anakin fight Dooku. Imagine having Christopher Lee as your big charismatic mid-point villain only to do nothing with him, and this is the second trilogy to do it to him too
>>750849826AYO DIS LIL NIGGUH IS BE QUESTIONING AN SHIIIIEEEDDD I BET THIS LIL DUDE CAN READ LMAO
>>750868209>>still a servant to a wrinkly old man pulling the strings who holds all the real power>he doesn't know
I just played Survivor, surprisingly great game, I'm excited for the third one now.
>>750871662He's a ketamine addict with the brain of a 14 year old trying to be "down with the kids". He pretends he isn't the richest person in the world all the time.
>>750873292Cal and Kyle are the only two Jedi to ever think>I should incorporate a fucking gun into my moveset
>>750870747These AI pictures look retarded with adult Hamill and Fisher's heads on toddler bodies
>AIEEEEEE PALPY SAMA SAVE ME
>>750860193Because it would have sucked and Lucas made the right choice as director to not bog down this tragic emotional scene with awful nerdwank"ehm and akshually while Anakin is cutting down all the Jedi he can manipulate LE MIDICHLORIANS at will and he is super saiyan in the force and the reason he killed the kids is because his emotional baggage when the kid called him Master"Having some shit scene afterwards where some scientist dude or Palpatine explains to the audience all this shit would have ruined the scene.
>>750856145None of that is canon and you don't understand Star Wars. That idea was created by Nic to come up with a reason why some kid could defeat him in a lightsaber fight...when his scenes with Anakin were removed from the film.
>>750873147Alternatively, remove Grievous entirely because he's an utterly silly villain and the PT already has a problem with each movie introducing a new villain and killing them off unceremoniously. Maul, Jango, Dooku, GrievousYeah yeah, Clone Wars cartoon, he wasn't like that in the movie.
>>750861436That's just a copy of stuff from the US lol
>>750873367Luke used blasters too, though.
>>750871898"antiPT"?
>>750860371>the high ground just has to be present in the battleI have no idea why this made me laugh so hard.
>>750860603Imagine the kinda of newfag that has this image saved on his PC. Explains why 4chan is so shit these days.
>>750873541Those people post on twitter and discord
>>750865662It's crazy how the sequels don't have a single decent lightsaber duelI haven't watched the third one so maybe there's on in there, but I'm not going to watch it.
>>750872970He kind of looks bothered there
>>750848325I was genuinely surprised by this. I thought playing as Anakin during the final battle was just for gameplay purposes and that it would end the same, but nah, he actually wins.>Here's your new red lightsaber broSweet, I don't have to go on some long ass quest in a gimp suit to bleed this crystal, or some bullshit.
>>750870516Not canon though, Sam and Lucas talked about it. Mace defeated Sidious.
>>750873552I want to bring back bullying newfags and banning crossposters
>>750873589nobody swings at eachother anymore they swing at the others saberthat nogbeast playing ahsoka is so shit at choreography she made hayden slow the fuck down for her scenes
>>750873502So did Obi Wan
>>750873732>So uncivilized!
>>750873367It was kino when he double tapped Bode at the end
when I was a kid I get upset about that because it wasn't happened on the movie
>>750873705>they swing at the others saberOh come the fuck on, that has always been the case. Never more so than in the PT. If you broke down each step of choreography in each fight in Star Wars you'd find constant swinging at each other's sword. That's just theatrical swordfighting. They call it "Flynning" after Errol Flynn. It's part of making a visually exciting story driven swordfight, given realistic ones are short and ugly affairs.
>>750863674This. And Lucas coming back to make a movie about the midichlorians and their adventures in our bodies ala Osmosis Jones that he said he wants to do...please don't ever let him do that...DON'T MAKE ME KILL HIM, I WILL IF I HAVE TODON'T FORCE ME TO
>>750872482>you need a 2 hour movie about a kid racing for hutts to understand he's good at piloting and to show how padme met him and that one scene where palpy was electedOr you could squeeze it into the first 40 minutes including QGJ jobbing to maul to show that the jedi aren't invincibleThe whole gungan part and pod racing part was entirely redundant even if visually stunning
>>750873705>she made hayden slow the fuck down for her scenesTo be fair Hayden and McGregor trained really fucking hard during the prequels and were completely caught up in doing the choreography perfectly. Not everyone could keep up, McDiarmid had never done stage fencing and had his fight scenes dialed down because he wasn't physically capable of doing the same actions.>>750873923Part of the problem is modern safety regulations basically mean you can't conduct fencing within distance, meaning you either use camerawork to fool the audience or live with the fact that an attack will never be within range of an actual target. That's why movies like The Deluge still have some of the best movie sword fights because they were filmed without those kinds of safety regulations.
>>750872970Maul coming back is fucking retarded and Lucas had claimed for over a decade that he was dead.>>750873507Yes, it shits on the Prequel movies and is the favourite piece of media for people who hate the films>>750873952Nah podracing was great and a setup for how Anakin is able to pilot so well (the N-1 starfighters look like his podracer for a reason) and the Naboo getting along with the Gungans and beating the TF back is a setup for both the Empire and Rebellion's riseMeanwhile there just isn't a need for a Clone Wars movie, in fact TCW as a series added nothing and while the Republic comics are cool they aren't necessary to understand RotS
>>750872005I find that to be nonsense. Your connection to the Force shouldn't have anything to do with your body. "Size matters not. Look at me. Judge me by my size, do you? Hmm? Hmm. And well you should not. For my ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is."I prefer the hidden truth that was gonna be revealed in Force Unleashed 3.Vader was hiding how strong he'd become and easily surpassed both Palpatine and Starkiller.
>>750868738>Leia wears a metal microbikini>punishes anyone who gets aroused by her
>>750873938Finding out this was canon according to Lucas makes me wonder if he has dementia.
>>750874049>anakin is so strong his skills mog you IRLBased. Imagine having to hold back and slow down just to give the character with plot armor a chance to hold her ground
>>750869526He wanted Anakin to SUFFAH
>>750873705>nobody swings at eachother anymore they swing at the others saberQuite the opposite problem. They swing at each other's saber considerably LESS because they're light-up now and more fragile. They really swung for the fences before. The only time they had light-up sabers in the PT was specifically the scene of Anakin and Dooku in AOTC when the lights go out and those were REALLY fragile, basically fluorescent tubes so they couldn't smack them at all.
>>750851673>you can't have mist in a literal rainforest while the sun is outEcology in MH is pointless because fucking retards like you don't even care about it or natural environments. Your flat flyover shit hole is all you know or care about and you still find the ability to chimp out about fictional variants of relatively benign and uncomplicated visuals
>>750874145I had to check if someone was typing the phrase "antiPT" with a straight face
>>750874247that back to front quick block obi does was always my favorite
>>750848325The prequels were kino. The only reason boomer niggers and millennial cuckholds hate them so vehemently is because they were about democracy failing in real time and being replaced with something better.
>>750874247McGregor took to the dueling stuff like a pig in slop, he was a natural.
>>750874275It's true thoTCW rapes the Prequel films
>>750874247Man, lightsaber fights used to be cool.
>>750874198Admiral Leia is much more merciful than her father.>First failure: 30 seconds of Force Choke>Second failure: a full minue of Force Lightning>Third failure: death, but it's not unnecessarily drawn out or agonizingHail her magnanimous Imperial Highness!
>>750870553Sheev got mad pussy. Rey is proof of that.
>>750874217It's from Marvel comics he read as a kid, microverse stuff.
>>750873541What is wrong with it? That it implies that fascism is the fallen state of broken men or that it also implies that said fascists can be redeemed?
>>750874247>when the lights go out and those were REALLY fragile, basically fluorescent tubes so they couldn't smack them at all.And surprise surprise, that fight fuckin sucks
>>750874459lurk moar
>>750860603>Anakin>conservativeHe'd hate the current conservative cuckhold class because the only thing they conserve is exploitation and recieving dollars from israel to bomb brown children in gaza.
>>750874462Why didn't they just record the movements slowly and then speed up the footage?
>>750874562That would look like two people moving really slowly sped up.
When are Disney going to redeem themselves and do something actually interesting; give us the Palpatine origin story film.
>>750874654Won't happenEven if it DOES happen, it'll be like Luceno's Plagueis where Palpatine is retconned into being born evil and he just does evil shit cause he's evilDisney has routinely proven they're woke trannies who can't even make a relatable villain, that's the reason they destroyed Thrawn so much
>>750874527lurk moar
>>750871549losing ground hurts like a bitch huh, power sure has it's price
>>750874562If you mean undercranking, that only really works if you go at say 80% speed and the undercranking gets you to 100%, letting you be more precise in the choreography. It's not going to work if you're going at 50% speed.
>>750874725
>>750874725But Palpatine IS evil, he's not relatable on any level and has never been portrayed any other way than an irredeemable and soulless sociopath.
>>750874792You need to accept that nothing good will come out of Star Wars until the Mouse is dead anon. Just like the rest of us.
>>750874843And yet here we are
>>750870749>Will you transform? Into some aged, pale skinned, raspy voiced, yellow eyed monster, you mean? Such as the one you see before you?>Know this, Sidious: The power of the dark side does not debilitate the practitioner as much as it debilitates those who lack it.>The power of the dark side is an illness no true Sith would wish to be cured of.
>>750874843then why am I looking at it?
>>750874842>Palpatine is evilThe Jedi genocided the Sith because they practiced a religion they didn't like, he gave them what they fucking deserved for what they did to his people.
>>750874792>faggot retard that becomes obsessed by Blandor and dies for it>>750874842See >>750871271 philistinePalpatine has a ton of moments where we see his own beliefs and ambitions, people just ignore them and act like he's constantly lying or whatever because they want a flat 2D villain even when Lucas was long planning to make him a tragic villain including his Underworld backstory
>>750874894yawn
>>750874863As a fa/tg/uy I can produce my own content, making me immune to corporate bullshit.Disney can cram all the lesbian amputees with vitiligo into the setting they want, in my heart I am free.
>>750874971Why are you just making up imaginary shit instead of responding to people?
>>750871195>I should have listened to Dooku on Geonosis.
>>750874965You're a gay niggerfaggot dickless troon.
>>750871448>Two there should be. No more, no less.>Just ignore my sexy teenage apprentice, Lord Vader.
>>750872746The multi-parter episodes are usually very good. Skip the obvious filler episodes like the ones focused on Jar Jar or droids.
>>750875231maul went from a cool silent villain to a fucking roach that wont die and wont shut the fuck up
>>750873479Grievous is too cool to cut. He just needed more screentime and to put up more of a fight against Obi-Wan.
>>750873292Cal having a loli padawan could be kino.
>>750875269There isn't a single good Clone Wars episodeAt least the Jar Jar ones are salvageable because they focus on a film character and not Filoni's fucking OCsThe two parters are all cringeworthy slop, OMG LE HECKIN' BAD JEDIRINO MADE US SHOOT EACH OTHER, OMG US CLONES ARE LE SLAVES, OMG LE CHIIIIIIPS, I'M GONNA CLOOOOOMFucking retard, just read the Republic comics and watch Genndywars and read the CWMMP novels and don't waste your fucking time watching Fagloni's shitty self insert show for babies
>>750875373he had his chance with the macguffin super map of all force sensitives that was really important until the last second when he decides nevermind lol and breaks it
>>750874462Still better than any Disney duel.
>>750873479Grievous main flaw was George deciding he needed to be a coward and a weakling.Any hero is only as good as their villain, if you make your villain purely a stupid loser then what does that say about those who fail to overcome him at the first opportunity?
>>750875431How evil
>>750874842>Palpatine IS evilFrom my point of view, the Jedi are evil!
>>750873938>make a movie about the midichlorians and their adventures in our bodies ala Osmosis JonesThis would be hilarious. Please George, do it.
>>750874171It's not the size of the body, it's missing parts. Yoda may be small but he's fully organic.
>>750875419Why so mad? There are plenty of good arcs like Mortis, Umbara, Mandalore, Maul's return, Ahsoka getting framed for terrorism, the Clone conspiracy, etc.Genndywars is all style, little substance. It's basically just a montage of action scenes.
hard to take cal seriously when the rest of his actors work is either giving/taking it in the ass
>>750875431Fallen Order's ending was so dumb. Made the whole game feel like a waste of time.Survivor really managed to salvage Cal's story into something more interesting.
V>VI>IV>powergap>I>III>literal trash>II
>>750875584At least the actor is cool with Cal being straight and having a Nightsister wife.
>>750875520If he does it he should do it on contract from Disney. Get an air tight one that means they have to put it out and that the budget is without a cap.Then just spend every penny he can to make the most dogshit meme of a movie.>>750874171The connection to the Force is a spiritual one.Vader is a spiritually broken man.How can someone who spends every waking moment fully aware of how helpless he is, from being Palpatines dog, to having failed entirely in his goals, to even being a prisoner in his own body, helpless to live without technology, develop the mindset of 'I can do anything with the Force'?That's why Vader is weaker than Sheev and always will be.
>>750875684My favorite trilogy is Revenge of the Sith, Rogue One, and A New Hope.
>>750875583>Why so madCause TCW raped the films and the EU and people keep acting like it's the greatest shit ever when it's just crap>plenty of good arcs KEEEEEEEEEK>MortisShitty slop that degrades the Force and the prophecyIt's just a half-baked copy of the final part of Genndywars with Anakin finding the prophecy of him becoming Vader in the Nelvani planet but with drama between Force gods or whateverIt's fucking stupid overall>UmbaraShitty plotline about clones having le feefees and feeling bad that a general ordered a bad manipulative orderClones don't have feelings, Krell would be killed right there for treason and that's it, move on>MandaloreGay hippy wonderland of pacifists, completely ruins established Mandalorian lore even pre-Traviss and replaces it with nothing of substance. Obi-Wan had a girlfriend? Are you fucking serious? Maul is a warlord now? Jango Fett wasn't a Mandalorian? Fuck off>Maul's returnThe gayest shit ever, Lucas had long stated since '99 that Maul was DEAD never to come back, he had chopped him in half precisely so he wouldn't come backMaul adds NOTHING, he is a worthless character who exists to derail the show further, he adds no drama to Obi-Wan because Kenobi's drama is with Anakin now, him becoming a crime lord is fucking retarded, it only exists because idiots who never got the point of TPM claimed Maul was underused when he was used perfectly>Ahsoka getting framed for terrorismArc that ruined Bariss Offee, lazy way to make the Jedi look bad after season after season of whitewashing them and only so that Ahsoka looks good, obviously Ahsoka is dogshit as a character for numerous reasons, having this be a major reason for Anakin's downfall is the dumbest shit ever when that is the result of many other things, this just ruins RotS further>the Clone conspiracyThe clones themselves ARE the conspiracy, the chips are fucking stupid and ruin O66>Genndywars Is a fun show, depth is in the Republic comics as I said
>>750850582Top looks ethereal
>>750874842Actually the Underworld series that Lucas was working on was going to reveal his life had been pretty horrific and he was actually trying his best to make the universe a better place.>They made the Emperor a sympathetic figure who was wronged by this f*ing heartless woman. She's this hardcore gangster, and she just totally destroyed him as a person. I almost cried while reading this. This is the Emperor, the lightning out of the fingers Emperor.>Lucas and his writing team actually completed over 50 full scripts for Star Wars: UnderworldHe was going to be a robin hood, a criminal himself secretly using his Force abilities to get ahead and to also make the lives of others better. Then some fellow criminal destroys his life completely and he no longer feels he can trust people.He was going to be the character you rooted for all season long and loved, without knowing until the end of the first season he was Palpatine.
>>750875270I didn't mind him coming back in Clone Wars but Rebels did him so dirty.>seems like he learned his lesson and will become a morally ambiguous ally>lol jk he's still an impulsive nigger>all he cares about is getting revenge on Kenobi after all these years, even after killing Kenobi's gf
>>750872818DisneyThey actually outsourced a load of animated short stories to JAPANStar Wars Visions (season 1)Apparently its really good but I've not watched it
>>750875789TLDR
>>750875842ThisLucas had long been working to make Palpatine understandable, again, see RotS commentary where he states that Palpatine believes he's the good guy and most of what he tells Anakin is true from his PoV, also this is why RotS intro has "there are heroes on both sides"
>>750875745>Rogue OneOverhyped Kuso-e and where I fell off with micky mouse wars
>>750875937i only saw clips of that show and one of them was mauls last words in obis armsgay as helland vader vs ahsoka where in the middle of their duel it has to cut to the little brownoid jeet kid exclaiming GEE I REALLY NEED MORE TRAINING
>>750874462Still look better than the moderns ones do.Modern sabers aren't even white in the center, half the time.
>Darth Bane series directed by Genndy never ever
Why isn't there a single dark side user with a non-red lightsaber?
>>750875982Honestly? I prefer Sheev as just an absolute narcissistic monster.Not every villain has to be sympathetic. Him being some fuckhead who has always been out for #1 and only grew more so because he found a philosophy that justifies it is superior to 'Oh, Sheev was the good guy of his own story'Sith philosophy is Izzat Tier and him revelling in what an absolute bastard he is, even to the point of being self-destructive about it, is far more delightful.>"Of all the monsters I have created, I still regard Darth Vader as something of a minor masterpiece. No, he was not an entirely alchemical creation, but he was my monster nevertheless. Even though he failed to live up to his full potential, there was much pleasure in transforming Anakin Skywalker from a bright-eyed, tousle-headed youth into the greatest Jedi killer of all time. Yes, he ultimately turned against his Master, as monsters sometimes do, but that was my fault, not his. Given the opportunity to create Vader again, I would, and with zeal.">t. Sheev Palpatine, "The Creation of Monsters""Yeah Vader destroyed me in the end but you know what? I'd do it all over again just for those 20 years of using his soul as my own personal portapotty. Good times, hahah, god I made a monster out of him :)" isn't something that comes out of 'Oh, I'm the sad I can't trust people :'(' it comes out of being a fuckhead who does fuckhead things.
Palpatine ala Underworld>Slew his master years ago>Says he has defeated the Sith himself and is the chosen one>Doesn't hold any interest in continuing the Sith line, feels his slaying of Plagueis was proof the Sith were incompetent and refuses to manage the secret Sith shrine despite some visions of Sith haunting him demanding he do so>Takes care of the criminals and less fortunate in his sector of Coruscant>Goes out of his way to keep a lot of children well fed and cared for in an orphanage>Jedi take one of his children despite his protests, they end up getting killed>His lover and the woman he trusts with everything betrays him to the Jedi, even gets the kids he cares for to turn on him>He loses everything and is nearly killed.Everything from the first season
doesnt the extend lore get super fucking retarded. like isnt there canonically a super luke whose name is like luuuke skywalker
>>750876006It's the best of the Disney films thoughbeit. It's one of the only times the Empire is actually threatening and characters don't have plot armor.
>>750876147The idea is that the crystals used to make lightsabers are grown in special planets.The Jedi have their planet with all the rainbow colours.The Sith have a hidden planet, and only red crystals grow there.
>>750876197Look, his creator was a cloning expert, not a naming expert, cut him some slack.
>>750876237"not having plot armour" only works when you don't expect all of the fuckers to die because they never appear again anti plot armour is honestly worse than plot armour
>>750876147Anakin would have kept his blue saber if Obi-Wan didn't steal it.Mara Jade had a purple saber when she served as Palpatine's assassin.Ventress uses a yellow saber now if she still counts.
>>750876114Any major Bane production would be worth it if only for the potential Bane X loli Zannah doujins.
>>750875745>Rogue OneProbably the "best" Disney has ever done but that ain't saying much kek, it has great visual design and some interesting characters and that's it>main girlboss character who's too cool for school and tries to do the Han Solo shtick but fails because she has no charisma nor learns to value anything else throughout her "arc" which is just wanting to save her daddy>blandor sidekick who is heckin' ambiguous rebel who may do immoral things but is actually heckin' good and innocent deep down, also he falls in love with her for no reason>flamboyantly gay Imperial general who spends the entire film bitching like a retard and failing to do anything, literal who with no real screen presence or threat>tarkin and leia cgislop that looks fucking abysmal>constant retarded convenient deus ex machinas on how things happen>rebels are able to infiltrate megasuperhidden imperial base with no trouble>empire uses death star before ANH>saw guererra cameo, fuck TCW and fuck his overused ass>vader wasted into punny "HAHA CHOKE ASPIRATIONS" character, OMG I'M GONNA COOM OH HE KILLS THREE PEOPLE IN A HALLWAY AND FAILS TO GET THE FUCKING PLANS AND DOES NOTHING ELSE, MY FAN FANTASIES ARE REEEAAAAL
>>750876197The clones were simply Luke and Luke. But to allow for you the reader to discern who was being spoken of in the story their names were rendered as 'Luuke' and 'Luuuke'
>>750856145Kino if true.
>>750876197Disney copies and steals so many things from the EU but does them worse.
>>750876297There are countless other prequel/interquel characters you expect to die but still have magical plot armor. Especially Ahsoka.
>>750876331>>750876262they cloned fucking luke skywalker?luke, luuke and luuuke, fuckin lmao
>>750876367>disney epaulettes>pupilsDisgusting
>>750876147Because whether it's Bleeding or Artificial Kyber, the answer is ultimately always "because Vader had a red one in the OT and we have an autistic obsession with keeping things the same"
>>750876449Back in the 90s
>>750876150Nah it's fucking lazyThe whole "sympathetic villain" shit only applies to villains who are doing politically correct shit, Palps is based because he's sympathetic but doing something that is considered super evil nowadays, he's Downfall tier and it's greatAlso that shit is cringeworthy, I hate "Sith alchemist Palpatine" from the Dark Empire era, that just isn't who Palps is.Dark Empire-style Sheev is the reason Luceno had to let Plagueis live up to TPM and why there were no books written from HIS perspective alone. Because he genuinely has no character whatsoever, it's the dumbest most generic and boring "i'm evil and i'm going to do evil things" slop possible from the minds of the most boring writers possible>TLDR Dark Empire is shite>>750876443Sabine isn't that far off herself. Filoni loves his mary sues.
>>750876191I forgot a big one>His best friend is a JediYeah, I think we could probably all see where that was going...
>>750875968Reject TCW, embrace CWMMP
>>750876443>Especially Ahsoka.not really, going into hiding is common practice for Jedi after RoS
>>750876585She wasn't Force sensitive, they just took Lucas thought on how anyone could use the Force if they devoted themselves to it. Only Sabine uh...didn't devote herself at all. She was forced into it by Kathleen Kennedy.
>>750876449>Life has many doors, Luke-boy!
>>750876638Going into hiding then joining the Rebellion, fighting Vader, getting saved by time travel, then deciding not help Luke in the movies for some reason.
>>750871773They hated disco because it spoke the truth.
>>750876585chuddies subscribe to great man theory of history but hate it when it shows up in fiction
>>750876685Kek wtf happened in Star Wars Rebels..?
>>750848325This moment was so stupid. High ground isn't a thing for melee weapons, it's unironically better to be lower in that situation because your weapon is being held by your hands and your hands are higher up your body, meaning it's easier to protect your head than your legs. You can argue that Anakin needed to jump into Obi-Wan so the problem is his trajectory was predictable, but they're Jedi, they can force leap super far, there's no reason to ever dive straight into your opponent. Not to mention it would've made narrative sense for Obi-Wan to have learned from Maul vs. Qui-Gon that jumping in that situation was good, not bad, he wrote it backwards.
>>750876649>Lucas thought on how anyone could use the Force if they devoted themselves to itLucas only believed this in the earliest stages of making ANH and maybe had a brain fart here and there later but the films contradict thisAs far back as ANH, Luke has the Force because his father was a great Jedi. Obi-Wan has the Force but he's an old man who probably had a Jedi dad. No other character has the Force, Han Solo doesn't even believe in it. ESB and RotJ, Leia and Luke have the Force because they're Vader's kids.The Prequels, we get very clearly established lore that the Force is genetic, you're born with a specific measure of the Force (whether midichlorians generate it or merely measure it), people come from people who have it or just birth it out of nowhere but you need to have it and the more you have it the stronger you are.>>750876726Luke, Anakin, Obi-Wan, etc are all great men. Leia and Padme are great women. Sabine and Ahsoka are mary sues.
>>750876773No, theyre my wives and my wife is always perfect
>>750876736>High ground isn't a thing for melee weaponsliterally all of the history of warfare ever would like a word with you, sir
>>750876731A lot of cringe.
>>750866342But it's based and red pilled retardation, not cringe and blue pilled retardation.
>>750876832>Filoni inserts wolves AGAINFucking zoofag just expose yourself already and get arrested for our sake
I'm happy people are finally admitting the prequels where good.Also hilarious that the nu trilogy is so bad that even the kids growing up aren't changing their opinions on it.
>>750876773The films don't contradict it, they back up that interpretation in fact. There's no mention of being Force sensitive or midichlorians or anything like that.Luke just decides he wants to be a Jedi and that's that.
>>750876773Also the Force isn't genetic either according to LucasThe Midichlorians use people as starships/cities to get around, they regularly leave starships and cities meaning anyone at any time could host a migration of them for one reason or another.
>>750850824>>750875817>>750850582
>>750876919>Luke just decides he wants to be a Jedi and that's thatWrong. He's the son of one of the greatest Jedi which gets reiterated over and over again, first by Ben, then by Yoda, then by himself at the end. The second film establishes that the only two people who can use the Force, Luke and Leia (Leia hasn't even been trained but can feel Luke from long distances and shared an almost immediate bond with him) are, surprise surprise, descendants of one of the greatest Jedi.The only way to come up to the conclusion that "the Force isn't genetic" is to be an ANHfag who ignores the rest of the franchise and even what that film states because you ignore the fact that Luke is thematically meant to be the knight with hidden powers and not just a random nobody.>>750876982Unfunniest man alive posts retarded bullshit, please rope
>>750871804Much better than the edgy bullshit that clones were just too well trained and didn't like the Jedi.>>750872143She didn't rage quit, she was chased out by the fans for how much she shit things up.
>>750876443They did keep Tech dead.I have a feeling he was going to return as the evil agent, but scrapped the idea since they realized how pissed fans would be.
>>750877037Anon, Midichlorians being little people you can have actual conversations with is retarded. It doesn't matter if Lucas says it's canon (He does, he wanted to make a movie about them and their Osmosis Jones adventures and said he would if he had the rights again)Not everything Lucas says is good for Star Wars. Midichlorians will never be true, it's too stupid.
>>750848325I remember finding this game really hard when I was 8 and just using cheats to blast through it
>>750876890The prequels are an epic tragedy about the corruption, manipulation, and fall of the Republic and the Jedi Order. It resonates with millenials/zoomers strongly.The original trilogy is a straightforward Allies vs Nazis allegory. Less interesting but well executed. Gen X loved it for giving them heroes.The sequels...lol. Lmao even. What do zoomers/alphies get out of it? Annoying girlbosses?
>>750876832Seriously, you have to give a QRDlike I said, R1 was my dropped point
>>750876585>becomes a jedi develops powers that take for others decades to master since infancybut enough about luke
>>750866429>not the film versionhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkcckaBAoKU
>>750877078Tech and Kannan's deaths were good. I just wish they were willing to kill off characters more often.
>>750848325Hate how often people are simply stabbed by lightsabers in star wars. It's a damned slashing weapon that can cut through people like nothing.
>>750870747Is he waxing his legs?
>>750877093What George said and did after the Prequels is dumb. But midichlorians as cells that show how much Force you have are canon.And yes, the Force has ALWAYS been genetic. Star Wars follows the idea of traditional fantasy which as another anon put it is in essence great man theory: some men are born to be great and lead others. Star Wars has never been "you can do this if you believe in yourself" and thinking so is fucking gay plebbit shit>>750877127Luke is the son of the strongest Jedi ever (and shares that strength), has to train for years and his Force powers by the end are little more than Force choke, mind tricks and jumping highSabine is a nobody, barely trains with Acksoka and somehow knows how to heal people with the Force and survive being stabbed
>>750860603Did you buy the malfoid funko pop too?
>>750871118>>750867362This nigga IS "they"
>>750877196Nah, you adhere to the prequels and don't see how similar it is to the sequels.Star Wars has ALWAYS been about spirituality being important. Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter.
>>750871118>>750867362They is Jews (palpitine) and Christians (Jedi)
>>750877256Thinking the Prequels are in any way similar to the Sequels is signs of being a pleb who got filteredTHe Prequels never stated the Force isn't spiritual. Midichlorians simply measure it. But some people have more potential and are able to use it physically while others just can't ever use it. Simple as. Thinking otherwise is, even as far back as the 80s, pure headcanon that goes against the lore.
>>750875431>that was really important until the last second when he decides nevermindThe game sets up beforehand that it might be better for these children if the map didn't exist at all and poses that question to Cal as well quite a bit before the ending.
>>750877339You're just a dummy that grew up on the prequels and can't recognize how awful and cringey they are.
>>750877123>new Jedi kid joins a quirky band of rebels>they go on a bunch of inconsequential adventures>they discover a dimension where they can time travel through portals>Ahsoka is around for a season before Vader almost kills her, but she's saved by time travel>Rex is around but he's fat and old and constantly making jokes>Inquisitors are all jokes and get wiped out>Vader shows up for a few episodes but fucks off after Ahsoka "dies">Maul is brought back as an old hermit, you think he's going to work with the rebels but he chimps out and betrays them because he wants muh holocrons and to find Kenobi>Kenobi easily kills Maul when they finally meet>Thrawn gets introduced as the big villain but gets beaten by space whales able to jump to hyperspace>there are also magical Force wolves and a weird giant guy who's like a true neutral Force god
>>750877339Midichlorians will never be canon and your love of the prequels reveals your low IQ. You don't understand Star Wars lore even a little.
>>750877421>boomer is seething that Star Wars isn't about being able to do anything if you believe in yourself enough kek
i respected lucas a lot when he said if you dont like the prequels i dont care its my story im telling it how i wantbut then he sold out to the mouse probably because of RLM bullying and shit
>>750877171It's like Samurai Jack rules. Only droids are allowed to be cut to pieces. Humans just get stabbed or lightly slashed.
>>750877457It is though. It's canon.
>>750875638Fallen Order is more standard Star Wars stuff. I understand why people like that more than Survivor, but Survivor is more original and takes bigger narrative swings, and I think it hits them all for the most part pretty well. The zeffo plot was dropped in favor of something that is actually meaningful to Cal and the rest of the cast and thematically more personal.I think it's better than Fallen Order too. Hope the third game sticks the landing.
>>750877421The bane of everything the modern twitter right worships. That's how you get people idolizing the XB360 brown and bloom era shooters and the department of state posting shit like halo memes.
>>750877465It's not his story, it's ours. The child is meant to be controlled and enslaved by the parent. It's meant to leave and live a new life with others that care about it and know what it wants.
>>750871804I always thought the order 66 was some kind of a hypnotic suggestion, because they were suddenly attacking Jedi, like they were in some kind of trance. I don't really mind the chips, because it's obvious clones weren't acting out of their free will, but I think it should have been explained differently, maybe with the "chips" being biological alterations to brains or some advaced hypnosis.
>>750856678He had them earlier though, while he was butchering the high muckitymucks.
>>750877465he didnt even write it, it was ghostwritten by some dude called alan foster or some shit
>>750848325In the film, why didn't Anakin air dash during the jump? Force users need to air dash and short hop.
>>750877542>"chips" being biological alterations to brainsThat's what the chips are, they're like organs they grew themselves that have special KILL JEDI, OBEY PALPATINE hormones...
I liked Phantom Menace ever since I watched it in 1999 in a movie theatre.Qui-Gon and Obi Wan were coolThe fucking droid army was coolThe Naboo ships were fucking slickI actually laughed at Jar Jar a few timesThe locations outside of Tatooine looked amazing and still hold up to this dayI could not give a shit about the " Midi-chlorians" or "trade war"The pod racing sequence was at least 20 years ahead of it's time and has one of if not the greatest sound designs ever made for a movie segment.The soundtrack is arguably the best out of all The movies, Duel of Fates alone clears every single other track that is not backed up by pure nostalgia.Darth Maul and his dual lightsaber was fucking coolThe last 2v1 was possibly the best choreographed lightsaber duel in any SW media.
>>750877545He really enjoyed killing Gunray and Wat Tambor.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kRb1yb0-4M
>>750877583he was out of meter after the long jump
>>750877542>it's obvious clones weren't acting out of their free willWrong, Hidalgo who was there on the RotS set daily and had constant interviews with Lucas confirmed in 2005 that it wasn't brainwashing>they were suddenly attacking JediThat was the point, the trick. The clones are only loyal to the state and the Jedi are traitors to the state. The clones have no care for the Jedi beyond their allegiance and once the Jedi are declared traitors they are to be executed.>the "chips" being biological alterations to brains You're so closeThe clones are straight up said in AotC to be totally obedient to authority without question. That's it. Their biological alterations is literally they obey the Republic without reproach. At most the elite ones like Cody will mutter about it being inconvenient but they'll do it regardless.
>>750877620Basado.
>>750848325what went so wrong for him
High theater tragedy kino. Big Lucas was in his bag on this one.
>>750877630Good thing it was retconned by Lucas's family, since it was his kid that came up with the chip first.
>>750877620Based. Phantom Menace was probably the most ambitious Star Wars movie introducing the entire prequel setting and taking its sweet time with a low stakes adventure.
>>750877630>with Lucas confirmed in 2005 that it wasn't brainwashingLucas changed his mindYou can't really expect the clones to turn on the Jedi for no reason after fighting with them for years. Lucas realized how stupid he was while working on the Clone Wars series and fixed it.Also the JEDI were deemed their authority and commanders. Having someone else say "Shoot the Jedi cuz I said so" isn't going to make sense to them otherwise literally anyone could say "Under authority of the REPUBLIC ITSELF, KILL THE JEDI" and they would start blasting. It'd be really weird if people caught on to the fact the clones were SUPER BRAINWASHED SYCOPHANTS that acted on anything remotely resembling some kind of authority were to be said to them...and it would gotten the entire clone armor killed years ago>THIS JUST IN, THE CLONES ARE DEEMED TRAITORS AND MUST COMMIT SUICIDE IMMEDIATELY TO PROVE THEIR LOYALTY TO THE REPUBLICDamn...what weird end to that war all the clones shot themselves...
>>750876367>>750876531It's the fucking gross forehead that pisses me off the most, the fuck even is that?
>>750877664Not marrying Ahsoka.
>>750866416don't try it
>it's prequels were good revisionism YAWN, how many years have you been at it with this psyop
>>750877339>Midichlorians simply measure it.How do you measure spirituality and belief in yourself and a greater power?
>>750877909Redditlettermedia lost.Everyone loves the prequels and the Clone Wars now.
>>750877759LOOK AT THE TOP OF HIS HEAD OH NNONONNONONONONONO
>>750878012Anon...RLM made that because people already complained and hated the prequels. I get you were young and stupid but not having awareness is silly.
>>750878075All of their complaints were low IQ.>Uhhh who's the main character?>Why are Jedi so stoic?>Anakin is whiny!>Politics are confusing! Too much talking I just want action!>Actually the action is too well choreographed!>There is too much groundbreaking CGI, we need more puppets!
>>750878163>Heroes on BOTH sides?! Whaaaaat?
>>750877909How is your hairline these days boomer?
>>750878163Fundamentally their main complaint was 'It's not like the ones that came before'Boy that sure was a wish on a fucking monkey paw wasn't it?
>>750878287>b-boomer!!Younger than you soilennial
>>750859646The system hate strong and independent white males. It is the only thing that poses a threat to evil in our world. This why every white nation is being subverted. While christcucks believe in jesus christ, their women are being raped.EP 3 is nothing but a humiliation ritual
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>>750878163You really are quite stupid. Read some books, please. I recommend Children of Time and Cage of Souls.
>>750878340>shartyfag>behaves like a subhuman (boomer)many such cases
>>750878353based Luke
Why did Yoda and Obi-wan split up to fight Palpatine and Anakin separately?If they fought Palpatine together, they likely would have won, and they were already on the same planet as him. Why not just kill Palpatine and then track down Anakin after that?
>>750878249Dooku and Grievous were the real heroes.Also my nigga Durge.
>>750878397>>shartyfagmedication not taken
>>750878368https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-e7Upf6i7dE>this is your genius criticOof.
>>750878353Luke did the biggest act of terrorism by that age he literally killed millions
>>750878516You don't need to be a genius to see how bad the prequels were...that's the thing. And yet you can't see it...seriously, read some books. You'll realize just how bad the prequels are.
>>750878436nobody else uses soi memes unironically in the current year, either way you're either lying about your age or retarded
>>750878414Palpatine would have fucked Obi-Wan hard. Even Yoda barely managed to survive him.Obi-Wan only had a chance against Vader because he trained him and knows all his moves. And he was a master at the best defensive form.
>>750878564The prequels are shit, but less so than the sequels age 22
>>750877692Wrong, her kid wrote the episode but it's been implied in interviews Filoni came up with the idea.>>750877770>You can't really expect the clones to turn on the Jedi for no reason after fighting with them for yearsYes you can. The clones are loyal to the Republic. The Jedi betrayed the Republic. Ergo, they execute the Jedi for treason. >OMG B-BUT THEY FOUGHT WITH THEM FOR YEARSdoesn't matter, clones aren't like normal humans>Also the JEDI were deemed their authority and commandersThe jedi were battlefield commanders, there was a higherup chain that went beyond them to the GAR generals like Tarkin and Romodi and at the top, the Chancellor.>Having someone else say "Shoot the Jedi cuz I said so" isn't going to make sense to them otherwise literally anyone could say "Under authority of the REPUBLIC ITSELF, KILL THE JEDI" and they would start blastingIt's the CHANCELLOR OF THE REPUBLIC, retard. The fucking leader. It isn't a random guy. The clones accept orders from authority, in this case their direct commanding leader.>It'd be really weird if people caught on to the fact the clones were SUPER BRAINWASHED SYCOPHANTS that acted on anything remotely resembling some kind of authority were to be said to themYou are an utter dumbass. The clones obey authority above them. For a while they were obeying the Jedi and the GAR. When Palpatine orders something, that's the upmost order to follow. It's like the president of the US ordering an immediate action.>THE CLONES ARE DEEMED TRAITORS AND MUST COMMIT SUICIDE IMMEDIATELY TO PROVE THEIR LOYALTY TO THE REPUBLICPalpatine wouldn't order that though.>>750878414Obi-Wan would have been killed nigh-instantly, look what fucking Dooku did to himThey only knew Anakin was in Mustafar for now so they had to go to catch him fast and Obi-Wan didn't stand a chance against Sidious as Yoda tells him
>>750875789>krayt apologismLeave.
>>750878554You should appreciate Anakin's fall as a parallel to Satan in Paradise Lost. Or the prequels' homages to Greek epics and tragedies.
>Urhm, aksuahlly you need to read books to know how bad the Prequels we-No problem, let me go hit up some Shakespeare, you rancid abbo.You know, the thing that most critics were too ill educated to cross reference with the dialogue of the prequels?Funny that, innit?
>>750878618>it REFERENCED and took INSPIRATION from better things Okay, it does it badly
>>750878612>The Jedi betrayed the Republic.But...they didn't lol>This guys said the Jedi have betrayed the Republic!>Well as Clone Troopers that have proudly fought beside them for years I know that's BS>YEAH!>Me too!>Let's get that guy that said they betrayed the REPUBLICAnd so Palpatine got shot a bunch. The EndSeriously, you just not very bright. No need to read the rest of your stupidity lol
>>750878516Embarrassing how bad this take aged. Then Mike praised The Force Awakens as an amazing return to form.
>>750878673So how does referencing your books make the prequels bad exactly?
>>750878702>And so Palpatine got shot a bunch. The EndGENUINELY BETTER THAN THE PREQUELS
>>750878702>But...they didn't lolYes they did. I mean firstly Palpatine said so but secondly they very much did when they illegally tried to murder him in his office. It doesn't matter if he's a Sith, being a Sith isn't illegal and he was voted to stay in power by the Senate. He is legally allowed to do everything he does in RotS and the Jedi did ilegally try a coup.>fanfic of how clones talkClones don't fight "proudly" next to Jedi. Jedi are war allies. If the Jedi betray the Republic, their head is on the line next because the clones are loyal to the Republic. The clones aren't heckin' fuzzy wuzzy friends, they are war soldiers bred to be purely loyal to the system only as stated in AotC.You are an utter retard who grew up with Filonislop and are crying that your fanfic clones don't match up the film clones.
>>750878603I've noticed that your generation is very similar to boomers in terms of retardation. At least they had their excuses.Not trying to say the prequels were perfect but they're not "shit".
>>750878762It's bad because it's badly written, filmed and actedReferencing books does nothing to help the prequels
>>750878797Since you're a moron with low intelligence I didn't read your post, all your nonsense was refuted years ago. You don't understand Star Wars
>>750878163>Uhhh who's the main character?Answer it, then
>>750878864Wrong on all counts. You just want quippy jokes and simplicity and can't understand political conspiracies and stoic Shakespearean characters.
>>750878889>no argumentsget filtered filthy niggerpleb
>>750878804They're shitI'd rather a roadkill skunk took a diarrhea in my asshole than having to watch Attack of the Clones again
>>750878932>Shakespeare >stoicismbig laffo
>>750878935You lost years ago before this ever started.
>>750878903Anakin and Obi-Wan are co-protagonists of the trilogy.Phantom Menace is genius for making you think Qui-Gon is the main character only to kill him at the end and force Obi-Wan to shoulder the burden training Anakin himself.
>>750878932>uhhm it's complicated bad writing so it's good?
>>750878612Why would you lie so blatantly?Lucas said the clones are programmed and never did it out of free will.>"Obviously, the clones play a very big role in this series. And we really enjoy turning them into personalities, and seeing the war from their side, and seeing what their problems are. Obviously the issues are how were they programmed, and when were they programmed, and that sort of thing will, eventually, reveal itself."https://www.ign.com/videos/lucas-talks-clone-wars-season-3>"Again, all of these stories originated with George, and he wanted to tell the story of Order 66. He seemed very interested in getting into the details of that story and what drives it. From my earliest conversations with George coming onto Clone Wars, as far back as 2005 when I put to him "What was Order 66, and how did it work?”, he was always connected to the idea that it was somewhat of a Manchurian Candidate concept. When the order goes down, it's not like the clones have a real way to say, "No, I'm not going to do this.”>"We get heavily into Order 66. This is the other big thing George really wanted to lay down — these are the mechanics of how and why this worked.">"Traviss, she didn't get everything right. It's very clear if you watch RotS, that O66 is not an order on the books. And it's simple from this one detail, that Traviss ignored, but the detail is when Sidious shows up as a hologram and says, 'Execute O66,' the clones say, 'It will be done, my lord.' Not 'yes, sir,' not 'yes, chancellor.' 'It will be done, my lord.' The brain washing kicks in the moment they hear the words 'Order 66,' and they look at that hologram and they see god. They see the man responsible for their creation, Darth Sidious, and that's what it is. Commander Cody has never seen a Sith Lord. If you are going to take Lucas and Filoni to task for changing the Mandalorians, you have to take Traviss to task for changing one of the most key plot points of the entire saga."-Sam Witwer
>>750878903Qui-Gon Jinn, Obi-Wan Kenobi, Padme Amidala and Anakin Skywalker>b-but Anakin can't be a protag because he appears late in the film!!!!!Luke appears like 10 minutes into ANH, Anakin 20
>>750868703There's a Clone Wars episode that basically spells out the same thing.
>>750878986Name 10 Shakespeare plays you have seen.
>>750878525always makes me laugh. those stupid lore books also mention how many people were on it, including mentioning there was 250,000 civilians. literally millions of families devastated by this news
>>750879067The enemy was blowing up planets, I'm sure Luke felt bad about it later. I'm sure he wasn't aware it essentially a fully functioning city and thought of it more like a big starship.
>>750879004A hero falling to temptation, the Jedi being arrogant and complacent, and a tyrant turning a republic into an empire are too complicated for Gen X'ers.Just give us le heckin good guys fighting le evil space Nazis. Don't try to tell a different story! It's too boring and confusing for me!
>>750878612>It's the CHANCELLOR OF THE REPUBLIC, retard.Except the order came from a Sith Lord."It will be done, my Lord."Chancellor of the Republic isn't a "Lord". There are no "Lords" in the Republic's political or military hierarchy. The word "Lord" was only ever used when addressing the Sith, by those who knew they were Sith. Which means Order 66 was not a legal order coming from the Chancellor. It wasn't "Yes, sir" or "Yes, supreme commander", or "Yes, Chancellor." It was "It will be done, my Lord", responded unilaterally by all of them. Because clones were all programmed and hypnotized and that secret pre-programmed directive could only ever be issued by Darth Sidious. That's what Lucas actually said and what was actually in the movies. You sperg like a little bitch for the entire thread, and can't get even the most basic shit straight. Pathetic.
>>750879015The chip or not argument all comes down to stupid people not understanding what coercive control is.>These clones have been raised from birth to only follow orders, they have been conditioned on a genetic level to not even think they can refuse an orderApparently not mind control>They got a modified gland in their brain that makes them goon for being goonsApparently now mind controlWhen in reality there's zero difference between the first and the second except the second has a specific physical part involved.
>>750879183Yes. You keep going over the themes of the prequel trilogy but can't seem to get your head around the fact it's all poorly executed tripe
>>750879183What you think was going on in the prequels and what was actually happening are wildly different things lmfao
Meanwhile in reality:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FK09TwG_N30So simple even Alex Jones can get it.
>>750879015>Lucas said >the 2014 IGN interviewKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK>From my earliest conversations with George coming onto Clone Wars, as far back as 2005 when I put to him "What was Order 66, and how did it work?”Yeah sure dude you TOTALLY asked Lucas 9 years ago and everyone got it wrong for 9 yearsNevermind the fact that people like Hidalgo who were there asking him questions in 2005 said it WASN'T a Manchurian Candidate switchAnd that TCW was not intended to even tackle the late stages of the Clone Wars until you changed it in the fourth or fifth rewrite into being about Anakin and Obi-Wan and not a random Jedi master and his padawan AshlaAnd that TCW had setup for the clones losing faith in the Jedi>Traviss, she didn't get everything right. It's very clear if you watch RotS, that O66 is not an order on the booksFucking retard doesn't even know that Order 66 being a contingency order comes from the RotS Junior Novelization which was written with tons of help from ILM and backstage notes, the orders were also implied in the RotS Visual Dictionary, and I'm supposed to buy that "George Lucas told ME and ME alone" KEEEEK>the clones say, 'It will be done, my lord.' Not 'yes, sir,' not 'yes, chancellor.' 'It will be done, my lord.' We never hear clones talk to the Chancellor, "lord" is just the way the Chancellor is referred to in the GAR hierarchy and anything else is cope.Also let's not forget the RotS novel which was line edited by Lucas:>Cody was a clone. He would execute the order faithfully, without hesitation or regret. But he was also human enough to mutter glumly, "Would it have been too much to ask for the order to have come through before I gave him back the bloody lightsaber. . . ?"But totally a mind control trick bro>>750879187You are a fucking retard. We don't know how clones refer to the Chancellor in the military structure which Palpatine had set up to establish his Empire. Don't assume shit you don't know.
>>750879252The themes are well executed. You just hate it for being more ambitious and taking risks.>>750879259Explain.
>>750879321>KEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEKYou're 100% brown. Didn't read the rest. Learn to speak like a human being. No wonder you've been so adamant about putting your embarrassing retardation on display.
>>750879158oh yeah, its a simple plot that isnt supposed to be thought about and expanded into like a full 30 movies and shit, its just funny to over analyze.its like that transformers retcon where they imply all human technology was just dripfed by the transformers slowly, thus implying that nukes, and hiroshima was personally approved of by optimus prime.>enola gay, i need you above the city of hiroshima on this date....just hilarious to think that optimus was like "hell yeah nuke that fucking innocent city center for NO reason"
>>750879373It's bad cinema le themes doesn't turn AotC from one of the most dull movies in existence into a good one
>>750879384The only proof one needs to show that he's a brownoid is to genuinely believe everyone misunderstood RotS for nine fucking years, that Lucas secretly told Filoni (who he didn't even like, since he was planning on Genndy being the lead at Lucasarts until he rejected the offer a year or so later) what Order 66 was and never told anybody else or stated it in any of his MANY interviews from 2005-2014, that TCW was always intended to lead to the Order 66 reveal (which you'd know is utter bullshit if you knew anything about the production of TCW and how the show evolved even in the late stages in 2008), and that this massive reveal never leaked kek.White men just tend to reason the logical answer: Filoni lied. He lied because he knew the chips were a MASSIVE retcon and controversial and it's extremely easy to just go "oh but it was always planned bros, trust the plan" and get away with it.Or, just maybe, you can't cope that TCW is fanfic slop that any PT fan barfs over. Kill yourself ASAP please.
>>750866416The books count for nothing. I barely put the prequels as part of the actual canon story, what makes you think I give a shit about your books?
>>750879158>The enemy was blowing up planets*Terrorist outposts
>>750879494Optimus is a cunthttps://youtu.be/G5FiU-F31Ro?si=RlNZFxfd6aUN5qis
>>750879531Attack of the Clones is the weakest of the trilogy but still does a lot of important work developing Anakin's character and starting the Clone Wars.
>>750879540EU was never canon. He wasn't involved with it at all. And even those rare times that he was, he still made it abundantly clear that it was a separate world from his and a different story entirely. It was fanfiction that Lucas had nothing to do with. TCW was George Lucas' show, created and executive produced by him, and everything in it either originated with him or went through him. You have LUCAS HIMSELF saying, on video, that the clones were PROGRAMMED:https://www.ign.com/videos/lucas-talks-clone-wars-season-3Timestamp: 3:35 In the movies, it's clear that the clones are brainwashed, and that Order 66 is a secret directive known only to Darth Sidious and that could be issued only by him. No one knew what was happening. Obi-Wan didn't know why the clones turned on him. Bail Organa didn't know. Anakin didn't know what to do with the Jedi spread across the Galaxy. That alone proves that there is no such thing as a public contingency order to kill everyone on sight that everyone was just OK with but somehow never once brought it up. "It will be done, my Lord" is a very obvious red flag that you try really hard to ignore because it destroys your entire narrative. This was also ignored by the EU, because they did not know how to address this. Literally every EU fanfic that had Order 66 in it ignored it, because they wanted it to be different thing from what Lucas had actually depicted.>who he didn't even like, since he was planning on Genndy being the lead at LucasartsOh, yes. He didn't like him so much that he spent almost a decade closely working with him and said he was like a son to him, on video. Sure, man. And I am supposed to believe salty dogfucker Genndy, who said this in 2020 when that was never ever stated anywhere for years before that in any of the interviews or official material. He was just salty his shitty little toy advertisement was discarded by Lucas pretty much instantly, because it didn't follow his vision. Keep coping, brownoid.
>>750879981kek the seethenigger, whenever Lucas and Filoni prove that they had their little dogshit interview in 2005, I'll believe it. Unfortunately for you, I'm smart enough to not fall for retarded bullshit and see that Filoni lied through his filthy dogfucker teeth.
>>750876449We need a comedy series with the 3 Lukes that chronicles their misadventures through Coruscant Academy.
>>750880116I accept your concession, stinky brown subhuman. Thanks for playing :)
>>750848325>anakin changed his destiny and the destiny of the entire universe by... le jumping little higher this time
>>750859646>Kid Luke is just adult Mark Hamill shrinkedSmaller Luke?
>>750877256>>750877196It can be both. Luke can have a greater potential than others because of his lineage, while the basis for his force usage is wholly spiritual. Genetic predisposition doesn't have to mean literal cells, it's magic after all. Also, assigning a DBZ power level to it is just retarded and kills any mystique it had.
>>750880714we have the highest midichlorian accountwhich means that you have a lesser amount
