JUST GRIND FOREVER BRO!LOL, LMAO EVEN.
>>750853042Nice skirt, fag
40 def pure omg plz spare me
what is it about the troonscape graphics that are so appealing?
>>750853536very readable.
>>750853464it's lighter and cheaper. stop playing suboptimally fr00b
>>750853536solid color gradients are kino
>>750854325>>750854441are there any other games with this artstyle/such graphics?
>>750854483every game made before 2005.
>>750854483FlyKnightAnd yeah I agree it's one of the best artstyles of all time
>>750854523textured graphics became common in the 90s no?
>>750853042If you ever feel like a fucking loser just remember there's people who are so fucking autistic that RuneScape isn't grindy enough for them. So they play Ironman mode. I genuinely look down on anybody who plays it
>>750854523holy zoomer
Hell yeah runeniggers. I've checked out the general but its fucking cancer. Just starting dt2, then only bmr left and ill have the quest cape.
>>750855632The general hasn't been usable since 2016
>>750855731Yep seemed like it was mostly just one "person" talking to themselves. I didn't stick around long enough to investigate.How are you liking zeal? Those pking videos with it make it seem crazy.
>>750855860It increased obligator max hit from 59 to 61
stupid fucking retarded runescape 3 this shit unironically makes me want to die. "w-why are you playing" because im retarded okay.
>>750856339I still play RS3 for an hour or two a day.Trimmed comp 5.8b with plenty of liquidity so I can just jump into whatever I want on a given day with no pressure.Lately its been the bog WC activity or the new boss.
>>750856119Pretty cool. I only just got into bossing (yama/toa/tob etc. Still need to learn cox) fairly recently with people from the clan so I didn't even attempt tfa. Did just aquire a bowfa/full crystal so I'm hoping that power boost will be helpful. This economic crisis has been great for gear purchasing.
>>750853536it can run on a toaster
>>750853042Is this the server the redditfags had a meltie over because the owner spawned in a Easter egg?
>>750856339I've had fun posting a screenshot of the osrs/rs3 daily player count on the rs3 reddit. I tried it again on an alt the other day but the ui filtered me. Why do I need to have my skill level page up ALL THE TIME? Makes no sense to me. That and the performance being dogshit, anyways. Seems like it has a handful of redeeming qualities though. Was just hoping for more runescape while I was afking something else.
I get a crazy itch to play runescape like 2 or 3 weeks out of the year, so when I do play I usually go fuck around for 10 days, then spend the last 4 making money back for a bond, I don't think I've actively paid them my own money since like 2012 or 2013 when they first ripped my original payment rate away because they said I cancelled my sub, but I hadn't, so I just stopped playing altogether till bonds came out, and I liquidated a bunch of old shit.
>>750856553Tob and 300+ toa are both more difficult than tfa or cox
>>750856339I liked runespan when I played rs3 as a low-reward, high exp alternative, but it seems like even it is worthless now in the face of necrotic runes which also make you an assfuckton of money because of their extreme desirability. Necromancy really did a number on the game. And it's a shame cause I actually love the skill lmao.
>>750856746Yeah, I did cox once on gridmaster. It doesn't seem difficult, just need to do it. >>750856743Bonds are down to like 10m right now, so might be worth stocking a few up while theyre cheap.
>>750856963I've got 8 currently, and about 50m (I like to keep about 50m as my baseline for cash so I can come back and do whatever I feel like), planning on buying another bond to waste on an alt for hardcore worlds, that's really about it.I also still have about 250~ bonds on my rs3 account, I sold my partyhat when I was really feeling done with the game after fresh start. I wish I could say I regret it but I really don't.
>325 hours into my ironman characterwhy the fuck did I do this everything is so fucking annoying to get
Guild Wars 2 mogs Runescape!
>>750857068Guild wars 1 maybe, kill yourself troon
>>750857057>hoursyou mean days? lol
>>750857057Deiron and have fun playing a mmo
>>750857057I realized I could never ever make an ironman when I found myself getting annoyed going totally dry for 500kc during a Zulrah botw event. If a relatively minimal grind for gear I already had and didn't need pissed me off, I'm not autistic enough for ironman. Never did get a single unique from Zulrah. Got the pet, though.
>>750857057>>750857326Ironman is for people who have been playing Runescape for 20+ years, not for old school newfags.
>>750857057>>750857258dont listen to him. de-ironing is a trap. main is so much faster that you could just buy a few bonds and get back to where your iron is in no time. should you buy bonds? no. but main is also objectively pointless because bonds exist at all.Bonds killed the game. You could argue GE did too to some degree. You could definitely still make a main, and honestly if you want to make one I'd do the hardcore main worlds that are coming out in a few days. You can transfer the character to the main game when you die.I would unironically suggest those worlds simply because it would be genuinely unique due to the fresh economy. But if you die at all you gotta go to the main game.Sorry for the yap but yeah. Iron is better honestly even if it doesn't seem like it. Don't de-iron.
its the most fantastical game ever. its the fantasy that you enjoy working and owning a home...
what's the non-combat moneymaking nowadays? sap for those new arrows? I know I make 99.999999999% less by not doing combat but sometimes I just want to not fucking fight shit.
>>750857546work a real job and sell bonds for in-game gp.
>>750857610I have a real job and if I need shit in a hurry I will, but I just want a small simple moneymaker for resupps.I used to do amethyst, you could get like 350-400k an hour and that would give me like an hour of supplies at any random boss. But now you barely get 250k if you're lucky.
>>750856339yuck
>>750857546The answer is always runecrafting
>>750853042>foreverNo, until you max then you can do all the diaries and quests and boss and do treasure trails forever.I'm 750k away from 98 mining on my ironman btw
>>750857685Is it? bloods look turbofucked after dogs.
>>750857718desu the goal is 200m. even on iron. u should see how crazy people are on this game. kids will get 200m fm at wintertodt before they even leave. and honestly i get it. it's prob not peak efficiency but imagine how much that would set u up. osrs is ezscape if you know what ur doing.
>>750857763Double nats with achievement cape tele to shilo village
>>750857776200ms are autistic, I'm going for combat cheevos and collection logs after I max.
>>750857819fair enough, guess nats really never go out of fashion.
im going so dry on a shitty boss mane this shit sucks
>>750857057it's honestly not that bad, you just need to get into the flow of things
>>750857853You can probably make similar profit making aether runes with scarred essence
>>750857951Farming and herblore are painful.
I prefer OSRS but play RS3 out of necessity. I'm just not build for the grind anymore.
>>750858024I alternate between both, need to get comp back on my rs3 iron but they changed combat and I don't wanna learn new shit
>>750857546arrows are 4.8 mil for amethyst/4.5 mil for dragon, diary cape double nats are 3.5mil, pickpocketing elves is 3.9
How do you make this game fun again
>>750858057>pickpocketing elves is 3.9averaged out, sure. I fucking hate RNG that the wiki averages out. I've gone hours dry on blood shards and crystal shit.also>arrows are 4.8m for amethystdoing what? making the arrows? no the fuck it isn't. Sure as shit not chiseling the tips either.
>>750858136ironman unguided, with no plugins, and all chats off.im not even baiting. other people are so insufferable to interact with in this game. and the moment you use a guide all the magic is gone. same thing with plugins. treat runescape as a singleplayer RPG and you can kind of enjoy it.
>>750858198yeah that's fair - you can get sap enough for 10500 seeking arrow shafts per hour but then you need to process the logs into shafts -> unfinished arrows -> finished arrows, which certainly does take time. you can multiskill it while doing rc or agi but you might not need to do those skills any more
>>750857057>325 hoursI'm getting close to quadrupling that, step it up senpai.
>>750857776>desu the goal is 200mNo it's not.>kids will get 200m fm at wintertodt before they even leave.No they don't.>and honestly i get itYou're an insane retarded person.>but imagine how much that would set upI'd rather do literally anything else. If you're going to grind for ten million hours and get nothing from it but a paltry amount of GP, you could instead just rush the quest list with the optimal order, and grind vorkath for the same amount of time and have max cash and max melee at the end of it. It would be a massively boring waste of time, but at least a profitable one.
>>750855632I wish some mod would exhile those dicord faggots already, genuie mental illness, but that's expected if generals I guess. gl on dt2, dude. It's easily the best quest
>>750858307>10,000 shafts per hourdon't you get like 30 buckets an hour? Wouldn't that be around 4k at most?
>>750854483Final Fantasy 7 for the PS1 looks similar. Now you can't unsee the similarity.
>>750853042For me? It's Runescape 3.Embarrassing how they acted during Reignited, but whatever, it's cancelled. And we will slowly die. But I'm having fun. I'm doing F2P, because I worry if I got members immediately, I'll kind of ruin the beginning and won't take it nice and slow. My goal is Dragon Slayer of course, and I think at that point, It will be the free Members or I get addicted to it again and start paying for members. Bonds are absurdly expensive, so I'm gonna have to pay up. I think I enjoy my time in RS3 more than OSRS, because it feels different. I got decently far in OSRS, but even late in my time, I still felt like I was doing the same thing all over again from before EoC. But with RS3, it feels different enough. Sure, I'm still mining coal and iron, still looking up guides to complete the same quests I've done a dozen times across all the accounts I've made in the past, but I don't know. Maybe because it isn't taking as long, maybe it's all because of looks, maybe there's just more to the beginning now. I'm self-sufficient, but not Ironman. Though I haven't bought anything from G.E or traded players, I want to try and rely on myself as much as I can, and it's very fun trying to figure it out myself.
>>750858640osrs sucks anyway and nobody plays it. even after the bot nuke there are like 40k to 50k people playing at any given momentrunescape died when eoc released. osrs is a bastardized version of rs2.it's over.
>>750858948based rs3 chad. make sure you're a main by the way.iron killed runescape but people don't want to hear that.
>>750858989theres 100k+ players on right now and most eurofags are asleep
>>750858989Fishing lvl?
>>750859070bots, anon. bots.
>>750859069ironman is great for the game because it pushes jagex to balance shitty content
we are getting close bros
>>750859105majority of bots are gone nowadays. unless youre a schizo that thinks the player count is still 90% bots then ive got nothing for you
I'm in the process of using up all my accumulated proteans and other treasure hunter items before they're all deleted in a few weeks.Not really sure why, I don't really play RS3 too much anymore anyways. I guess it is a very afk grind.
>>750859146normal people dont play or enjoy osrs.
>>750858948just a tip, if you install rs3 on mobile, (only rs3, osrs doesn't have this), you can buy membership for a single day for $1, I do that pretty often when I get an urge to play rs3 again and fuck around and go bossing.
>>750859186where do you think you are?
>>750853042stealth 04scape thread
>>750859116Are you gonna save smithing and mining for the revamp?
>>750859270id play 2004scape if they didnt force u to make a discord. im never using discord again. oh, and if the xp rate was variable.
>>750859290rework will be shit because they wont have the balls to nerf foundry xp per bar like they should
>>750858772you apparently get 100 buckets per hour if you use the normal bloodwood tree with optimal gameplay - you get 20 if you use the afk version thoughthis is second-hand information though, i only do the afk version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8S1OBD-eu60Been enjoying watching faux play rs3. He's retarded and doesn't even know vanquish exists but it's interesting. He's arguably having more fun than how all the retards play this game anyway.
>>750853042i remember loving this game as a kid, I tried playing it as an adult but the artstyle was giving me headaches looking at it I could barely get through the tutorial
I play RS3I've been playing since 2005, back when there was just Runescape.I permanently quit a few years ago, but picked it back up over this summer. I'm trying hard to learn real PVM, I have almost finished buying BIS melee after cheesing bosses with Necro. I'd like to save towards BIS Magic next. BIS Ranged scares me though.
>>750859368https://runelite.net/plugin-hub/show/117hdcan try with the hd plugin
>>750859346yeah the active version is RSI inducing, having to spam click 20-30 times per tree to activate it is just straight bullshit, and I don't think I got above 50/hr even day 1 doing that shit.Maybe one day they add an upgrade to improve the afk. Those arrows are too good to ignore though so guess that's what I'm doing over the next few days while I work, thanks for the info.
>>750859330I want to believe you're prolly right
>>750857057>ironman characterI was like this when I tried osrs again after like 18 years. It really made me hate the game. It's like the whole game is designed to waste your time. I barely had fun the entire time, I finally I asked "why am I doing this?" and finally broke free of the mind virus. After 500 hours I don't think I had 1 single person talk to me.The game was so much better when I was 13. I was making all kinds of friends, would roleplay, and found my own fun. As an adult it just doesn't click. Perhaps it's my own fault. But something about just seeing people run around the world grinding "for no reason" just felt extremely depressing.
never ever make more than 1 character. ever.make it an ironman on both rs3 and osrs. there u have solved the runescape dilemma. $130 a year ain't that much either.
>>750859290nah ive been doing zalcano for mining and I have 99 smithing banked from going dry on soulreaper axe, just need to clock in to the chinese sweatshop
EOC killed RuneScape. It really can't be understated how retarded Jagex is.
>>750853042no it's not
>>750857057You can de iron any time. The game is built around trading, whoever said iron is for noobs is a fucking retard. You're missing out on all the fun.
>>750857650Genuinely, you need to sit down with the wiki and search it to death for a few hours. Take a look at GE prices and histories and volumes and get really creative. There are tons of niche items you could farm, or simply ways to make money from your skills that you don't even know about because they are low xp or locked behind something. The fun part of the game is finding your own little niche in the economy, doing something you enjoy.Or you can just farm blue dragons and sell the bones. bee yourself.
>>750858948Very good taste. The game has really come a long way. Compared to osrs, having keybinds for your bankstanding grinds is incredibly big QoL. Revolution is also kind of fun once you get it down.
Gem crab and its consequences have been a disaster for new players.
>>750858989There are 120k people right now. You're that butthurt RS3 player who is always in every runescape thread, aren't you?
>>750859937good thing EOC doesn't matter since it's not a thing in osrs.
>>750854483Ultima Online and other Ultima games I guess
We need RS Forever. RS2 if it didn't become EOC.
>>750860665No way, that sounds awful. Worst era of RS was right before EOC. OSRS is great.
>>750860503If I'd been eating shit on a dying game for years and years, I'd be butthurt too. >Claim to have removed MTX>Immediately add a $50 POH theme
>>750860665>Runescape but with ugly as shit graphics and inflated health and Summoning and Dungeoneeringno fucking thanks
They should release an offline client so I can mod the Sixth Age to change as I interact with it, as the Fifth did, rather than starting out changed and waiting for me to catch up
ZEZIMA ZEZIMA
>>750861702u can play preservation servers like 2004scape and 2009scape offline. there's also a 2006 archive floating around. and u can play classic offline. and i think u MIGHT be able to play 2012 rs offline now.it'll prob never happen for the 'main games'
>>750859069Yeah, I went Main. I play similar to the rules of Ironman, but I know I'll get annoyed or frustrated at some mechanic and I do like playing with others. How do you think Ironman killed Runescape? RS in general or just RS3?>>750859214I been thinking about mobile. Thanks for the headsup!>>750860328Revo is fun, much better than before. I'm not very far in combat, I think I just hit CB lvl 20 something the other day. And the game is in a much better place from what I remember about 5 years ago. My main account got hacked and I figured no better time to start anew.
>>750860496the goon crab is a huge change to the integrity of the game and nobody bats an eye. It's not the same community of people that were playing 20 years ago. That's why RS3 has the edge. I can't believe they actually got reignited straight up canceled. That was supposed to be their FRESH server experience. They were betting big on that.No fucking way they ever planned to cancel it, and yet they did. It's very curious.
>>750861886Reignited being canceled is a nothing burger. Why? Because nobody would play it. Seriously, MAYBE it'd get a few thousand people. That's nothing crazy.
>>750856878What the fuck where they thinking with necromancy?>Yeah, let's just ruin combat even more by adding an overpowered duplicate of the summoning skillLike couldn't they just add skeletons and zombies and shit to the summoning skill?
>>750861978the point wasnt to get +1million players overnight but to set up a future where rs3 could grow and gain new players again seperated from the gross exploitative mtx history. i swear you niggers act retarded on purpose somtimes
>>750861886Reignited seemed really interesting to me.Last time I played runescape I played ironman, a big reason was because I didn't want to deal with the mtx shitI genuinely would have given reignited a shot and played it, there has been so much bullshit economic damage that a fresh start would be very interesting. Even if I didn't stick around and decided to go back to my ironman.But since its not happening I will probably just return on my iron at some point, but my iron was maxed (haven't played since pre necromancy) and I had near bis gear at the time, so there is a lot of stuff I will need to pick up and remember to return to it, reignited seemed like a good way to ease the process.I understand existing players issue with it.But it genuinely did seem like a good way to try to get new players in that would eventually get merged back unless like a gorillion players signed up for it.We already did have fresh start worlds, so it isn't exactly new either.
Did they make sailing fun yet?
>>750862050honestly necromancy is not as bad as people say it is. if they iron out some of the issues it has it could be good. although it did KIND of ruin the game's identity. but EOC already did that 14 years ago.
>>750862261this might sound crazy to you, but you can literally start playing runescape 3 right now. as an ironman. it's completely feasible. you can even play FREE. it's pretty fun.
>>750862340So you are illiterate
How did RS3 dealt with switching player's houses with the reworked ones?Did they just delete and refunded everything?
>>750853536>>750853464>>750854378the pride faggotry
>>750854441>>750856606>>750858661runescape is fagscape
>>750862402i didnt read everything i apologize. most people who type paragraphs about reignited usually havent even given rs3 a shot. ur a rare exception.
>>750862519>>750855273kek iron+moddouble the troon
>>750862540I'd say 90% of people with an opinion have indeed played RS3, and didn't like it.
>>750862481>>750862519for what it's worth this is just par for the course with modern day gaymes. u have to treat all mmorpgs as singleplayer games if u wanna have a good time.
>>750862261I understand what you are saying, and I am telling you that you think you do, but you don't.A fresh server in runescape would be so incredibly exploited, there would never be the volume of items in the main game either. It would be a horrible experience. You are better off in a hyperinflated economy unironically.
>>750855632>BMRAbsolute pure fucking kino. Enjoy
>>750861978How do you know? And why would no one play it? The most common talking points against RS3 is EoC and MTX. Reignited had the marketing of a fresh start for everyone, no MTX, and no EoC. Revolution++ is barely any different to Legacy/OSRS until endgame. And you said a couple thousand of players as if that's bad? Compared to what we have now? That would have been a literal boost in our players.
>>750862574not that guy but I could give two fucks what anyone thinks about the game if they haven't put in at least a year. This isn't something you play for 300 hours and give a game review for. Talk to me at 1,000 hours and we can discuss how you should approach the midgame.
>>750862559He lost his pmod status because the general reported his twitter account to jagex full of loli porn when one of those pride events was going on
>>750862540Yeah and I find that is a big issue in general with the people against reignited.So many insist that no current player would want to play it.But not actually hearing them out or reading what they have to say.Except I did hear current players being interested inAnd I knew players who were interested in returning with it, I had been personally keeping up to date with the updates they had been doing over the year and had been interest in returning.Let alone the new players.>>750862614>I understand what you are saying, and I am telling you that you think you doI do though>A fresh server in runescape would be so incredibly exploitedDon't care lolI am not chasing world firsts or anything> there would never be the volume of items in the main game either. It would be a horrible experienceDon't careI maxed an ironmanI maxed in runescape for the first time before the max cape even came out and grabbed it on its release.I maxed in osrs before zeah existedI maxed an osrs ironman as wellI really don't give a shit if some stuff would be a little hard to buy, not an obstacle for me.>You are better off in a hyperinflated economy unironically.Nah that's just your doghshit opinion.
>>750862676bro...people aren't just gonna appear out of thin air and flock to runescape the third of all games. the absolute best case scenario for this game is MINOR GROWTH as long as runescape as an IP is around. or even maintaining the current playerbase. that's a realistic expectation i'd say. dramatic growth? not happening. it's not realistic. a couple thousand players coming to rs3 would be good, but a lot of people would probably quit because of reignited. at least temporarily. it just doesn't make sense to split the playerbase in a game as niche as RS3.
>>750862716xhe terrorized the threads since 2016 doebaitand had major 4chan mod connections, if not actuallty a tranny janny, quickly deleting posts saying anything negative to xhim and issuing bans quick
>>750862732I am interested in the idea of reignited. But as someone who has played a shit ton of RS3. Probably more than 90% of people here, I think it is an objectively bad idea. Because splitting the game down the middle and having neither side be able to interact with another makes zero fucking sense. Why not just play ironman? The only way I'd ever get on board with something like reignited is if it was a truly different game altogether. We're talking no bonds. No grand exchange. RuneScape 3 players would HATE having no grand exchange. In fact, I don't think reignited has as much appeal as you might realize. A fresh economy? In RuneScape 3? People could just sit there thieving which shits out GP in this game.I think the fallacy ultimately stems from the illusion of a fresh start. Or a fresh economy. Is that really desirable? Maybe. But I think if there is little to 0 actual unique things about the modes. Which if we're being honest, there aren't. They literally said it was the same game. In fact, I'm pretty sure bonds were going to be in the game. Bonus XP stars weren't, but bonds were and bonds are still pay to win.Basically, this just wasn't thought out as well as Jagex may have thought it was. I'm actually in favor of new modes when they actually just bring something new to the table. Like, I loved DarkScape when it was around. But it was obvious it was dead and was just going to shut down. The same thing would probably happen to reginited. I actually prefer RS3 getting massive new updates but reignited also was coming out a year too early. Look at the 2027 roadmap. There is so much they are doing to change the new player experience. So launching this shit right now just makes 0 fucking sense.This might've sounded repetitive as fuck and it was. But to me it doesn't compute. See, the people who are "going to play Reignited" just don't exist. Nobody wants to roll a new main on fresh servers. Not even I want to.
>>750862732>my dogshit opinioncoming from an ironfag playing Adam's game for 6,000 hours I find that curious. I've played many mmos and I always quickly accumulate wealth because starting in an advanced economy is much easier than the start of an expansion.If you want to play iron then play iron again. The spirit of trade is lost when you have people merching the most valuable items from day 1 and every single item you actually want will be overpriced forever. You have no concept of the economy or your place in it. B0aty warped you.
>>750862996Even if I thought I wanted to, do you know what would happen if I "thought I wanted to?" I'd roll a main on reignited. And probably 1-2 weeks down the line I'd be like, "Oh yeah, main is boring as fuck and ironman is more rewarding." I personally believe there is nothing here for a lot of us. Remember, Reignited was pitched as a game mode. There would be no ironman available. At least, they said there wasn't going to be on launch.I think there are a shit ton of oversights and it would leave too many players excluded to be worth it.
>>750862740So all the old players who were disgruntled with MTX/EoC, OSRS players, the current playerbase of RS3 that wouldn't mind starting over, the players who would continue playing on the old servers, and all the people outside of Runescape's bubble just don't compare to the players who would actually leave Runescape entirely? Not move to OSRS, I mean completely leave and never return. I'm not saying Reignited would've broke records, but I don't know where or why people think it wouldn't do well. What's wrong with the game then that players won't stick around?And they will appear out of thin air, that's howworks. Spread the word, people check it out. Youtubers make videos on it, Streamers live stream, people hop on after reading about it in all over social media. And even then, you said it yourself, "MINOR GROWTH" and it's still better than our consistent loss of players that we've had for the past few years.
>>750862996I agree with you that reignited was probably around a year too early.But also the reality seems like they just spent a year losing money and need to justify the changes they have made to continue the game on its current trajectory.Was reignited going to get launched BECAUSE of this? is it turn the game around or its going to get chopped? we just don't knowIt NEEDS new players and many of those players, be it real or not, see the mtx runescape had as a BIG issue.The game HAD fresh start worlds, they weren't very popular, they got rolled back into the main game, and many players didn't give a fuck because they thought it had no extra rewards for playing it and then the inverted skillcapes became a whole fiasco.But the reality is that fresh start worlds DID bring in good chunk of new players and I met many people who said they started, for the first time ever, on those fresh start worlds.I also agree that it really didn't seem as thought as it should have been.Having so many things up in the air and just a "lets see" and a bit vague was a huge issue.I also don't think you understand how much a fresh start appeals to new players as a point of entry, it does make a big difference.>>750863061I can't believe I have to say it to someone again so soon.But I see that you are illiterate
>>750862996rs3 leagues was a good idea.As for reignited, there is a fundamental conflict that arises when you try to get new players in a game that takes 10,000 hours to complete. The people who were most angry, most affected, the people who actually play the game right now are all so deep there is no way we were ever going to play reignited for more than a day or two. Im maxed and I finally feel like I can start playing the fucking game. I still have a few hundred hours of mandatory grinds I want to do before I dig into bossing and buyables. THAT is where they fucked up. Also, reignited=divided, and they were going to delete the old servers as soon as they could if reignited took off.
>>750863061>no concept of the economyDo YOU have any concept of an economy? Do you have any idea how a player-made economy functions?
>>750863241First question. How dare you?>Secondly, Fuck you.>mtx runescape had as a BIG issue.I never asked for that. I quit over it multiple times. They forced that shit on us and yet I stuck around and I put up with it and grinded and grinded and for what? To be told I'm tainted? Now I'm not the victim I'm the problem? Fuck yourself, you faggot.
Some of you people have nothing else going on in your lives than this game and it shows
>>750863364It's no different than being an ADHD zoomer who hops around to a million games.
>>750863336>told I'm taintedNo one said you're tainted. They said MTX was tainted, not you or any player.
Reminder that in the absolute worst year of MTX gold injection when they were giving away 1bil prizes on the wheel, MTX was still <5% of the gold coming into the game. AFK gold generation from Alchemy Invention machines is >40%RS3's economy is inflated/fucked because of structural economic issues that Reignited would have simply reproduced, "fresh economy" was not a real selling point just like "EoC is a distant memory"There's a reason they just announced with their Late Game Rebalance this month they're going to be kneecapping Alchemy machines to 30% of their current output. A good start!
Reignited realistically was Jagex trying to push for a new "launch day rush" that draws a big audience. The new economy shit or whatever isn't actually relevant.They're clearly trying to boost RS3's numbers before giving it a skeleton crew and dumping the rest of the team into OSRS and RS4 (I seriously can't believe they're making another MMO)
>>750863336>First question. How dare you?I will do what I wantIf you don't like it you can fuck off lmao>Secondly, Fuck you.Not a question retard>I never asked for that. I quit over it multiple timesokay lolYou are the one who schizo'd out that I actually couldn't handle itThat the "exploitation" would be a big issueThat the lack of items on the GE would be an issueBut that is obviously bullshit and you know your argument got btfo'd because I not only had played a main but maxed an iron and had bossed on it. Who fucking cares if shit isn't available if you have already played an iron, you can figure it out.>To be told I'm tainted? Now I'm not the victim I'm the problem? Yeah truth comes outIt isn't that I couldn't handle reignitedThat I wouldn't actually like itIt's that you don't want to feel like you have lost outLike I said, illiterate fuckwit, you didn't even read what I said about it.>Fuck yourself, you faggot.No one cares about your whinging you retarded niggerIf the game stays on its current trajectory its dead, this isn't a guess, its a factIts been bleeding players for a long timeSo yeah, things need to change, even if you are too retarded to understand that.
>>750863336You show me where they said you are tainted and I will apologize by giving you a sloppy, enthusiastic blowjob.>>750863471Wouldn't MTX be people buying bonds with actual dosh contribute more to the economy than TH? Do you got a source for that?
>>750863449No, there's a very big difference and I say that as someone with over a year logged on this kusoge
>>750863637>wouldn't MTX be people buying bonds with actual dosh contribute more to the economy than TH? Do you got a source for that?nta but bonds don't add gold to the game, they actually remove it from the game since you need to pay 10% of their cost to trade them again, which a % of people actually do.All the gold comes from other players buying them.Yes, EVERY bond you buy is one another player paid real money forand EVERY bond sold has the gold come from another playerGold isn't just poofed out of no where
>>750863738>>750863738>Gold isn't just poofed out of no whereOh yeah?>steps into wildy>right click green stack>dropWhat now, faglord?
>>750863836How is you dropping gold causing gold to suddenly get added to the game?Are you having trouble reading?
OSRS was designed by a few oddballs but is still leagues ahead of other MMOs in terms of core designs.>OTHER MMO>every expansion the level cap is raised, ten more levels to different classes>seven expansions later the level cap moves from 50 to 120>every expansion just keeps new players in dead content wastelands for even longerEventually the stack of band-aids will get too high.I would point out City of Heroes where the level cap stayed at 50, and end-game was just an open selection of new powers with an upgrade system that made you even more over-the-top. Modern MMOs are all a snoozefest by comparison with almost no customization in comparison.Early MMOs were super cool because there was no set blueprint that you had to follow. Maplestory classic was 100% on keyboard (what other multiplayer titles did this? Risk of Rain 1?).
>>750863867I was trying to make a joke and be funny, but i read it wrong... sorry
>>750863637https://youtu.be/qWbIXekZocI?si=v-Mq_WCXfp6IFocB&t=28i will be waiting.
>>750863943But they never say (You) are tainted though? You aren't getting these thick lips until you show me where they explicitly say that specifically Runescape players are tainted.
>>750863876A great comparison ironically to this is Dofus and WakfuWhere Dofus launched with a lvl 200 cap and has NEVER changed this, its always been the cap and still is the cap.Just new gear has been added, basically. A lot of it which was filling out the existing empty levels.While Wakfu did the exact opposite and kept raising the level cap and new higher level things kept getting added. It started with a lower level cap.... that eventually got to 200 and they balanced the game around it.... and then it kept going past that as they added new stuff, but a lot of things still arbitrarily stop at 200.So you have the same company supporting both games, one that heavily stuck to its core and a lot of its initial design, and then another that is doing the exact oppositeand both still get some updates at the same time, such as an addition of new classes, with both getting an identical new class being added soon (well obv different in each game, but its the same class name, general theme, and ideas)Just an interesting parallel
>>750863929Its ogey, I understandI should have been clearer when I said "Gold isn't just poofed out of no where" and said "poofed in", I thought I was clear because of the context of the post, but it still is an awkward and ambiguous sentence.I appreciate the attempt at a joke and could tell you weren't serious.
>>750863943Rs3 still has stupid ass buyable bonus xp if ur a main account. And bonds. OSRS has bonds too. If iron didn't exist I simply wouldn't play anymore. So tired of people thinking p2w trash is even remotely tolerable.
>>750863637Bonds are MTX but they don't count because OSRS has them lol
>>750859516In actual 07, the game was basically background dressing for the real point of the game, which was a highly interactive chatroom for a bunch of kids and teenagers to fuck around. Other games existed explicitly for this purpose too, like Club Penguin and Habbo. These days that's completely pointless because there are so many ways to communicate with faggots all day and you are inundated with it at all times. There are no people chatting at catherby or the fishing guild or standing around in Varrock square just talking about random shit and doing emotes, because they have a discord and a clan chat and watch streams and talk in the chat there. The MMO environment we grew up in is as dead and outdated as VHS.
>>750863634you call me a retard but you're talking about playing a third rs3 account from scratch to endgame. It took me 20 years to max and I plan on taking my time with everything else. Reignited was a joke. Play devil's advocate all you want we all knew it was dead in the water.You talk like you play the game but you haven't mentioned the state of the playerbase. We have like 2,000 people online at all times. So first off, they wanted to sunset the game and replace it with reignited. Fuck that. They can do so many things to balance the economy but they choose not to. Give away super rares for free again. Aggressively delete bot accounts and any bot farmed bonds by the thousand. This game will never be saved by fresh start. It's been doomed for a very long time. Either they fix it or we sink, there's no budget for anything else. Hanging by a thread for years and they jsut took away the biggest moneymaker. You see them raising sub costs for years. You see them renegging on grandfathered rates. You know they restrict your play on multiple accounts to need members. They sell bonds for insane rates compared to gold sellers too.The truth is we needed that bullshit store to stay alive. Covid is over and the money is gone. Im always shocked how much shit they keep adding to the game and events they do. Where does the money come from?
>>750864112>And bonds. OSRS has bonds toonta but I 100% agree with you that bonds are bullshit mtx and are obviously p2w.The issue is that even without bonds, people buy gold, from 3rd party sites.Bonds are basically just an official way to do a thing that people were already doing.So as much as I dislike it, its a reality of basically every game.If they could clamp down on people buying gold and people actually got caught doing it, as well as banned for doing it, that would be ideal.But having legitimate alternatives for players that want this, so they aren't scammed, ripped off, and need to go to shady sites as well as deal with suspect individuals, is in my opinion, still the lesser of two evils.Bonds are absolutely p2w and I wish they weren't required.But there is a good reason that so many fucking games have direct equivalents to them, it is very effective at combating 3rd party gold sellers and eats a lot of their customer base.
>>750864048>systems arbitrarily stop at a certain levelOh this is a fun one. XIV has a few of these where XIV has one weird design choice (its full of them) where you can pick up classes that start at 50/60/80 once you get at least one other class to that level. At least it gives you more options with less backtracking.On paper Mabinogi looks like it has good ideas but I've never actually played it. Really the biggest draws for any MMO are pre-existing familiarity and the sunk-cost fallacy.I like City of Heroes again because I grew up with pay-phones, chunky laptops, and block cellphones.
>>750864112it's so sad to me that a challenge mode done to fill a streamer's 10 hour days has become the defacto mode to play and all it really does is guarantee you have to pay cash for members every month.
>>750864234>Where does the money come from?RS3 walesOSRS wales (they exist, buying bonds for GP) and numbersAll the people playing 2 accounts at onceThe bots. They mods wipe out the bots consistently enough in waves but they always try to study them first and of course they pay for membership during this studying period.
blood moon is such a bitch. blue and eclipse are piss easy but even with barrows chest/legs and stepping under the heal + damage makes me burn through almost all my healing everytime.
>>750853042I want to like this game but in the month I played it was just a solo grind game, it didn't feel like a mmo
>>750864234>but you're talking about playing a third rs3 account from scratch to endgame.You act like I am actively playing multiple accountsI have never played more than 1 account at a single time. That is completely retarded to do so, and it isn't as if I swap between them.I haven't played my main account on runescape in like, 11? 12? years. Its been ages.> It took me 20 years to maxSkill issue. I started sometime after slayer & farming released and before construction released, yet I maxed late 2010/early 2011I maxed as a retarded teenager playing a few hours a day, when no one knew how to do shit and no one gave a fuck about efficiency.I just played with my friends and my brother, what else was I going to do with my gold from doing duo and trio bandos runs, or nex with friends? I just got my buyables up with it and would train w/e skill I felt like at the time, eventually you do max.>You talk like you play the game but you haven't mentioned the state of the playerbase. We have like 2,000 people online at all times. So first off, they wanted to sunset the game and replace it with reignited.So yet again you prove your illiteracyAnd the rest of your post is just you whinging about things you clearly don't know shit about and are just flailing.Its crazy how fucking retarded and incompetent you can be at a game you have played for 20 years
>>750864384oh man, yeah I remember blood moon. I did that on my ultimate with a dragon scimitar. Did so many runs I ranked top 10 for ultimates. The guides are all telling you the same thing. Use the audio cues to dodge the jaguars. The shit on the floor is relatively easy, just make sure you keep your minimap fixed and start at the right spot for his rotation. He's a bitch with his healing too. But once I got his weapons he just died easy. So buy those if ur not iron.
runescape 3 is slow in the short-term but if u lock in u can be maxed in months.
>>750864395If you have friends you can do the rat boss as a team now at a low level but really you need like 70 strength to show up at God Wars Dungeon and something comparable for the Giants.Early game co-op PVP is this massive glaring weakness in OSRS. The game is actually full of design holes that the team is slowly plugging away at. HallowfellBelle's Folly sits closer to dragon short sword than the Ghrazi Rapier but you could still justify two more stab weapons under the Ghrazi and maybe on or two more after it much further down the line.
>>750864862I don't have friends. I was just doing the quests
>>750864384The Moons would be so much better if they just punished you for fucking up their mechanics instead of "lol the boss rolled a hit so you don't get to attack now/it healed for 50 go fuck yourself"
>>750864395These days the big appeal is number go up gameplay.
>>750864395>solo grind gameThat's because it is. People play Ironman and most people, you can even see it in this thread, they urge other players to do Ironman.
>>750864923I got the quest cape on a main and then I started playing hardcore ironman. I'm still alive because I'm braindead and I'm around top 1000 overall with more telling metrics putting me around the top 200 but the more I grind the more I just want to safe and it really sucks for raids but if I want lots of combat I really just want to play something else I guess. I could do chambers or inferno wowwwww
>>750864984Most people absolutely do not play ironman lmaowhat an insane thing to say.You are completely out of touch if you think this.
IDK about you all but I find clans relatively easy just wear like any gear and you'll find invites eventually. It's good to have a vague idea about what you're doing but a clan (really just total randoms) taught me stuff>>750864984Ironman is such a bad idea for people even vaguely new to the game>oh boy I can't wait to kill ZULRAH 1200 times for toxic blowpipePlaying the market is a whole game itself especially if you want to pay GP for membership. Ironman also hampers team combat a whole lot for most instances and kills the prospect of meaningful PvPPeople see dumb bits and pieces of OSRS and scoff but the whole shitshow runs together like clockwork somehow. Find me another MMO with no loading screens
>>750862678No thanks. I'll just not play the game I don't like.
>>750865214Sorry, most as in on here and on Reddit/YouTube/Livestreaming, not actual players. No, there's more bots and gold farmers than anything.
>>750865312There's like, no bots anymore.What are you even talking about?
>>750865341There are always bots but they come in waves and are usually changing sites/methods/etc. The way this happens can give consistent players a really creepy feeling of bots slowly accumulating and then it gets empty all of a sudden.There are relatively few right now in OSRS but give it a while.
>>750865396There are basically none and it's been like that for months.
>>750865312>it's all bots and gold farmers!Here we go again. No, that's wrong you fucking imbecile.
I don't "get" RuneScape. I thought people just ironically played it because it was such a shit but nostalgic browser game, like Neopets. But then people obsessively play it 1000s of hours. When it's not anywhere near as good as even WoW classic. Or is there also a massive Neopets community that would play a classic version of that too.
>>750857057>tfw not iron man>still never use the ge and do 2000 winterholds
>>750865638nta, but dragon bones have already been botted to hell and back. not a good example
rs3 iron chads won
>>750865823that's the point retard. They have been the most botted item in the game's history. The term bot is practically synonymous with "green dragons" in Runescape.The price is reaching all time highs, while supply reaches all time lows. Because there are no bots. Holy fuck you're stupid.
>>750865913are you retarded? the bots no longer caer about this item because nobody needs it anymore. they are in other places, filling up the economy with other shit that everyone needs. and gold farmers are in the other areas to earn that, dealing with each other, and with pvp bots as well.i literally cannot fathom how deep you have to be in your game to try and argue that the most well-known problem in your game doesnt exist
>>750853042>JUST GRIND FOREVER BRO!Hits a little too close to home, huh?
>>750865990>the bots aren't producing the item that they have always botted, that requires low effort botting with low risk and early accessible entry>all while the item is at maximum demand and the lowest available supply in recorded trading historyGenuinely, you are the dumbest person I have ever spoken to in my entire life. No, that's the opposite of how it works.
>>750866087either retarded, illiterate, or shitposting. I dont know, but gg, you got me. goodbye
>>750866240I'm glad you're able to diagnose yourself. Yes, you gigantic retard the item quadrupling in price and supply dropping from 23 million average sales per day to under 1 million means it is the ideal item to farm for profit.This is not happening because there are no bots to do so, and for no other reason. Because essentially all bots get immediately banned.
>plays ironwow the retarded inflated economy no longer exists and i can actually play the game! crazy!
Why do the skill numbers get displayed twice next to each other? I never played this.
>>750866478Skills can be drained or boosted. The lower number is the players baseline level. The upper number is the current level. So if you get hit by something that drains your attack, it might instead be 58/60.
>>750866415the economy is massively deflated.
>>750865227Ironman is decent until like 65 all skills. At 80 you start to realize how much you fucked up.The one thing I will say about ironman, especially in osrs, the clans are fucking great. Ironclans are active and fun. Still, if you aren't doing end game bosses you won't be playing with most of your mates. Goon crab really makes iron simple to level combats for too.
I remember voting in the poll to make osrs happen. How it exploded in popularity and spread over YouTube. And then it hit like 160k concurrent and we had the whole WoW exodus a few years ago. Only Madseason stuck around btw.I just don't understand Jagex. Because after all of their success with osrs they very clearly see it as a side project and they didnt really believe it would work out for a long time. Meanwhile they think they have it in the bag with reignited but it's so hated they have to cancel it within a month of announcing it. I just don't know what's the big disconnect between these games. Rs3 just needs better combat. It's identity has fundamentally shifted to account for 110/120 skills and I think it's a better game for that reason. It's us exactly what it's advertised to be and exactly what most of its players want. Except it's not.Almost nobody is playing true old school RuneScape in the original size client. They are playing the hd runelite version and typically packing it with addons. Osrs has become unrecognizable on its face because of this. The core problem with these addons is how they are often meant to address QoL issues like menu entry swaps or magic training arena mazes or puzzle clues or whatever. What I'm getting at is even with runelite osrs really big problem is that it requires hours of grinds that give you arthritis and fuck you wrists. Grinds that in rs3 are simply spamming a preset and using your keyboard. Osrs needs like 13 clicks to bank shit between inventories.
>>750867308>HDNobody uses this.>What I'm getting at is even with runelite osrs really big problem is that it requires hours of grinds that give you arthritis and fuck you wristsNo it doesn't.>Grinds that in rs3 are simply spamming a preset and using your keyboard. Osrs needs like 13 clicks to bank shit between inventories.Friction is a good thing, that's why people play OSRS and not rs3
>>750867308>>750867620third party clients contributed to the downfall of OSRS. alongside the GE and bonds.who would've known? only idiots defend this stuff by the way.
>>750867659>downfallIt's more popular than ever.
>>750867824nope. "osrs" might be. but runescape as a whole peaked long long ago.
Does anyone else wish that they would make a graphics pass over the world? Varlamore and every area they make now is so pretty and well thought out
honestly fuck rs3.ima keep it real with u. i was just sitting here and i was like. fuck it. lets just look at the runescape 3 player count. and yeah its 3 am on a tuesday but timezones exist.10,000 PLAYERS LMAO. I WONDER HOW MANY ARE ALTSjesus christ this game is dead.
>>750869356not really, the old zones are iconic
>>750869140No, OSRS peaked at a higher player count than RS2 ever did. it is genuinely more popular than ever.You are just butthurt because you're an RS3 player lol
>>750869356no, what I really want is for them to nuke the 2007 changes to varrock and revert it to 2006 style.
>>750853042Correct. RuneScape is not worth the investment for anyone who understands that all grinding games are inherently bad. There has never been a good grinding game and there likely never will be. They are literally designed to make you waste your life. You will go, what was it all for? Nothing. You wasted your life.
>>750869710Grinding was born out of Richard Bartle's desire to not be norf. The whole point of a grinding design is that anyone can be high status in the virtual world. It's egalitarian, through and through.
i genuinely have a theory that if god designed the world. and i mean this. if a god really did design it all - maybe it intentionally made everything be profoundly annoying on purpose. i'm serious. you just can't explain this world any other way. there's no reason it should be this retarded unless it's by design.
rs3 ironman with classic combat is so close to being perfect
I actually think from 1-60 is a decent curve but anything after 60 becomes a fucking nightmare because the game wasn’t designed to go past that level
>>750869670OG Varrock was the best, same with the old guards.
>50m gp>200m gpMy head is spinning. Is Slayer really the only way to make this much money?
>>750869356yes and then they should start new ACTUAL 2007 servers without all the new OP gear with deviantart tier names and models and crappy tick autism bosses and reddit quests
>>750862519>/vg/ bullied him enough to nuke his steam account, his maxed helmie and literally all of his online accounts that could be tied to him/v/ would never
>>750853042agreed and this is why private servers with 10x rates are peak
>>750862481>>750862519what does this has to do with runescape
>>750859316Same. It's the only site i've seen that requires a discord login. Can't be bothered making one, was gonna use some rando email but now i'm logged out of that too so meh
If i feel nostalgic cravings i just watch old rs videos at this point, feels good enough since i've been there done that. Can relate to it all
>>750863508I think the shocking success of Dragonwilds has gone to their heads.
>me and a friend start iron at the same time>he gets spooned at every single early junction, moons, barrows, cg, royal titans>i go 3x dry on almost everything>progress rifts apart and we are basically playing 2 different games>he quits for 7 months>i keep playing>i catch up, do some yama, doom, toa, gwd>i go unbearably dry at toa, gwd and doom, needing 2000 gwd kc for a godsword shard 1, no bandos armour at 800 kc, 700+kc for all hilts etc>same at toa, 60 expert toas and 0 drops, 2800 doom with no cloth and 500 deeps etc>he comes back, gets absolutely spooned at yama finishing oathplate in 300 kc, doom at 1000 kc, lightbearer and fang at toa at 2kc experts, never saw a double south at colo, face tanked FOUR zuk balls and gets cape on 2nd attempt>invalidates my entire 7 months of playing in literal hours, leapfrogs ahead againit is literally the most demotivating and feels bad experience seeing someone with your iron progress at 1/10th of the time investment when you started at the exact same timesome people just play a different game
>>750874793Does your friend know you are a little bitch
>>750874793This is why skilling is the superior activity.No RNG, no getting fucked over drops, just pure endurance.
>>750853042Wizard101 is for chadsJUST PLAY CARDS BRO!It's that simple
favorite boss music?hard mode, both OSRS and rs3 boss musichttps://youtu.be/w7maf1waDGohttps://youtu.be/R3ShTCWDlGM
>>750857057Just de-iron. Are all ironman retarded? Like I really mean it, NOBODY forces you to play GEscape or just make GP all day, why do irons act like playing a main forces you to do it? Nigger literally just don't go to the GE, don't press the buttons, don't grind the moneymaker you don't want to grind, do ironmen not have souls and free will or what? Just do the content you like and skip the things you want to skip, it's a video game you monumental retard.They should just stop catering to irons, in fact, they should make the game 10x tougher for irons, the only appeal of the gamemode is building an account that won't have every optimal thing unlocked, an account that will make do with the things they got spooned or grinded hard for, every iron should be different, there should be no such thing as an "optimal iron route/checklist", that's retarded.
>>750878263>OSRSAmascut's Promise, Blood Rush, HomeIt's a shame that my favorite part of Blood Rush plays 3 minutes into the song so I never get to hear it in game>RS3The Glory of Combat, Amascut's Vision
>>750869651Uh oh don't tell him that he'll just say that it's actually 5000 real players and 250k bots and alts when the highest peak was during a limited gamemode on the first few hours of day 1 when nobody could possibly have a bot going or have a reason to alt
>>750878263A lot of the boss musics in osrs are lame, archive guardian for example is the only good music from tfa https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dL4Nw9QT0h0The fat lady sings is memorable only because it steps outside of the typical sound formatFor rs3 on the other hand most boss musics are absolute bangers, like the latest ghrazi blood knights https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8P2gQlpGso0
>>750878523>A lot of the boss musics in osrs are lame, archive guardian for example is the only good music from tfaEzekiel's theme fucking slaps
>>750878557It just reminded me of a better piece music, albeit it isn't a boss track https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X04wPOuI7PQ
>>750874107>tfw rewatching Swampletics and and seeing that 2019 was 7 years ago
>>750853042it made more sense when it was a literal browser mmo, the grinding wasn't the appeal back then it was the rather creative for the time quests in a free game and the social aspect, you could literally just go fishing and chat with a bunch of people for an hour or more.game went downhill fast once Members became a thing and it split the game in two, then the free portion of the game was completely starved of virtually any updates in 25 years (i think it got runecrafting in an update but that was about it and the benefits of doing it fall off hard unless you pay for members)
>>750853042I kinda wish I could play a less active version for lying on the couch
>>750878263Top 3 boss tracks in Runescapehttps://youtu.be/eKHtEJZvDGEhttps://youtu.be/XZtL7PsJAochttps://youtu.be/LbIiEv1dYUY
Does anyone here actively play both versions, or is that a psyop tailor made by redditors
>>750879523i play both but not at the same time, for example i've played osrs for the past 6 months but before that 2 years of rs3
>>750879523I play neither. I watched videos of osrs when I had endless free time and now I just listen to the new music releases.
>>750878316Ever since zyl'rah the game has never been the same. Bosses shit out resources now so you're now an idiot if you think about farming your own coal etc. but that was like 15 years ago it's never changing now.
>>750879387lol i can't listen to glory of combat without constantly hearing zuk's voice in my head "THE SKIES BURN"
>>750878316the game gets better whenever they cater to irons
>>750881180KYS helmetroon
>>750879387Good picks.I really like Crimson Throne too.All the hest tracks reuse existing motifs (Amascut's Promise, Inferno, and Rise of Lucien in these cases)
>>750857718>do treasure trails forever.what's ur best one brahwhat's ur worst one bro
>>750858225>unguidedThe game is not designed for that. You either already know most of the things you need to know from 10+ years of playing or are getting yourself in a hell of your own making.Like yeah quest helper is far too much but come on even seasoned RPG players allow themselves to at least check what drops what and I wouldn't say the magic is gone just from that. Getting stuck on one item for years doesn't sound fun, especially in a 25 year game which never assumed it would grow this big at the beginning and assumed minor hints (and sometimes not even that) was enough.
>>750863248I feel reignited would have had a chance if they also took the chance to help progress faster, at least for a bit.I am sure a good chunk of the veteran playerbase would begrudgingly accept at worst or wholeheartedly enjoy a fresh start IF you promised their remaxing wouldn't have 10000 hours.Maybe if it had had a system where you can link your veteran account to your reignited one and you get increased XP until you hit the level they had on their mains, plus maybe a temporary window of increased drop rates for rare items to get people to their actual progress level ASAP it wouldn't have had such a backlash. Even the most mindless RS slave doesn't enjoy grinding enough to actively want to remax.
>>750883930You clearly don't know any mindless RS slaves, I know one guy who has maxed 4 RS3 accounts because he likes it
>>750883983Ok, ok, some people enjoy it. Not enough to support a new gamemode.
>>750867308>Only Madseason stuck around btw.Listening him complaining about the length of the fight caves was ridiculous wasn't WoW filled with 10+ hour long dungeons?
>>750884808>wasn't WoW filled with 10+ hour long dungeons?no?
>>750885047Oh ok.
>>750881180Birdhouses and Skilling minigames are among the worst additions to the game.
>>750886559Blame the playerbase (most of them mains) that won't accept any positive changes to anything from before 2007.Even a minor quality update like better success rate when fishing sharks is gated behind an obscure and confusing item dropped by bosses and a shitty minigame noone likes, and the trawler is still as broken as it was in classic.Not to say how FM is still barely a skill so whatever.
>>750886559>Skilling minigamesWho gives a shit when skilling hasn't been the best way to get resources or items for a decade.
PKing was the best part about Runescape and it's evolved into overly tuned garbage.
How about those hardcore worlds
>>750888278>think to myself it could be fun as haven't played a main in over 10 years>one day on discord call killing phosani, somebody asks something during p3 while curse is active and phosani is spamming the fuck out of melee>try to think of an answer while gayming>eat shit and die>would have lost ALL progress on a hc worldLol I think I'll pass
>>750889425>bossing with chat on while playing a glorified HCIMsounds like a >>(You) problem. Just answer later. Not even gonna troll you about spoiler.
>>750889425>i need the most hardcore challenge you have>no that's too hardcore
>>750890191It won't be all that hardcore if they let people mule
