Since P1R is real, share your>Hopes>Copes>Expectations
>>750854848hopes and copes is that its a very early vslice that doesnt actually represent the gameplay or enemies
>>750854848>HopesFull frontal nudity>CopesThe English cast won’t suck>ExpectationsThe English cast will suck
hopefully the youtuber which will showcase the playthrough is funny and charismatic
Persona started at 3
the PSP tracks are probably going to be paid DLC
>>750855143PS1 soundtrack is better anyways so who cares
Ooh, I know! Orpheus will be a DLC Persona and come with Cadenza!And ooh, ooh! Izanagi will have Cross Slash!
>>750854848Why is she wearing Seahawks kits?
I finished Persona 1 one day before this leaked and everyone started talking about P1, which I find to be a crazy coincidence.My opinion is the game kind of sucks, at least the Japanese PS1 version, I just like bad games and played it at 4x speed (basically felt like normal speed for battles)The characters are kind of simple and one note and it is almost purely an old school dungeon crawler with little focus on story or characters. I will of course play the remake although I'd rather just have a brand new game.>>750855174I greatly prefer the PSP soundtrack idk why people keep having this onion
>No School Days>No Rone Prayer>No Broody Destinywhat's the point
>>750855303Now that I think about it, DLC Personas would be even more overpowered since anyone can use any Persona in P1/P2. Sounds cool as hell.
>>750855404Well you are already getting a brand new game with 6 lol, and this remake will be so different it's basically going to be a new game. Most companies have multiple studios where one develops remakes, while the other works on new titles.
>>750855832Everyone has restrictions on Arcana. Of course, anyone could use Fools, but only Reiji could use Thanatos or Magatsu Izanagi.
Reminder that CERO or eurocuck regulators or whoever it is enforcing the rules hate video game casinos so no gambling for the MC who canonically loves gambling.
>>750855404>I will of course play the remake although I'd rather just have a brand new game.I feel like with how bare bones P1 kind of is in retrospective that a remake will feel pretty fresh since they just have to hit the same plot beats. I imagine that the characters will be fleshed out and they will probably ditch the optional party members and just make everyone join. I imagine that it won't be a choice between SEBEC and Snow Queen routes and they will also rework them into one plot.
>>750854848I'm honestly not sure what to expect. P1 is so different from the later games you can't really remake it the same way. I suppose I'd like it if it retained it's moodiness, which I think it will and it seems like it's not losing it's edge.
>>750855939>While doing the SEBEC route>Suddenly you have to conquer three towers and defeat a boss that's stronger than Pandora>The whole thing a total nonsequitur
>>750855939>ditch the optional party membersWell in the video we saw Elly, Brown and Ayase all together and they're the optional choices so I guess we're getting everyone
>>750856157Snow Queen could be the optional super dungeon. Sort of like Nocturnes labyrinth. >>The whole thing a total nonsequiturPerhaps but something I liked about the old games is that it felt like there was a lot of stuff happening outside of your personal quest. I suspect there will be heavy plot rewrites anyway.
We are getting peak female cast soon.
At the bare minimum I want party to have persona swapping. You can have strict arcana limitations but if they can swap at all I'll be happy.
>>750857306Im not playing any persona game that doesn't have persona switching lolCouldn't even finish 3 or 4.
>>750857306Why wouldn't it have swapping? The leaked trailer literally has it as a mechanic
>>750857576That was a proof of concept not a trailer
Ayo hol up, Persona ACTUALLY started at 1?
>>750854848>HopesLots more screentime for all the characters, I like them but no one but Nanjo and Maki got enough in the original game. Also, Snow Queen Quest included in some form of course.>CopesOST choice option including the original and PSP version. They didn't include it in 3 Reload so I'm guessing it won't happenI would also like to see genuinely confusing and intricate dungeon designs at least later in the game...>ExpectationsA good game. The new style is really cool, glad they're still willing to try something out there with how basic and lame 4R's looks.
>>750854936>HopesIf they can't bring back Tadashi don't let any of the nusona writers on the story. I don't even think the new games are bad or anything, but it feels like a different genre entirely. P1 and 2 are more like typical sci-fi RPGs like the rest of the Atlus catalog whereas the new games go for a more realistic tone to the characters, especially with how political the games are getting since P5. >CopesThis may be controversial but I hope they won't be afraid to address the elephant in the room in regards to how this game fits into the nusona canon. Either the game makes it perfectly clear these events still happened, or they confirm it's an entirely separate universe with similar characters/concepts, yet keep the possibility open for the characters crossing over and interacting with nusona in spinoffs. >ExpectationsThis game comes and goes and Atlus still never touches the old games ever again.
>>750857762It actually started with If.And on that note, i wonder if they'll keep the writer's self-insert who falls in love with the If MC.
>>750858336>afraid to address the elephant in the room in regards to how this game fits into the nusona canon.Havw we never gotten a clear answer on this? All i know is that the first half of 2 didn't actually happen, but ive never seen anything about 1.
>>750854848>Hopesatlus closing down>Copesatlus will close down>Expectationsatlus will keep raping the ip
>>750858475I don't think they were ever too interested on connecting the two outside of cheeky easter eggs
>>750858589i'm so sorry anon
>>750858475IIRC back when P3 released they kind of shrugged off the question by saying the games still could have happened but they didn't really have the old canon in mind while working on P3. it's like "gaiden" titles in Japanese media and stuff like the Persona mobile games and LN tie-ins, everything about them *can* be canon unless they get contradicted in the future.They threw in the likely threw in the reference to the Nanjo group and concept of artificial Persona users first foreshadowed in P2EP as an attempt to try and bridge the gap in some ways. However they may have changed their minds as Persona was an entirely different series at the time, back then P3 was just an experiment and is in this odd limbo of the series canon, like I bet they wouldn't have written Nyx as an actual ancient evil with how the themes of the newer games are.
It would be funny since everything points to P6 being set in Yokohama and P2 is set in Not-Yokohama. If the remake for 2 does happen I wonder if they will just fuck it and call it Yokohama. I guess they could also re-use assets from P6's Yokohama
>>750854848I'm annoyed that it's just another P5 clone instead of refining/expanding on the original gameplay, judging by the leaked footage I expected it since that's where the money is but it still sucks
>>750859264Only like twelve people and a camel liked the original P1's battle system.
>>750859418So they should take advantage of the remake and make it better, duh. God forbid devs try experimenting a little instead of using the same mechanics over and over and over.
>>750859264But it's not. The combat demo isn't even one more system. You don't get extra turns for weaknesses, you just bump up the next guy on the turn order.
>>750854848I don't think it's even real, but if it is I can't imagine it's releasing anytime soon. I would hope they can keep the vibe of the old games though, don't modernize it. Also I almost expect them to remove the Snow Queen Quest, or make it DLC.
>>750854848>>750855143>>750856152>>750857080>>750857769they love me only and have sex with me only and not weak loser nerds who play their game
>>750859814I wouldn't read anything into the video. They're gonna work on it a lot before it comes. It's not a demo.
>>750859945Okay, so how is it a p5 clone if nothing in the leaked vertical slice is actually relevant to what they're making then? They're explicitly pitching it as a new battle system, mind you.
That it pulls a Wizardry Daphne and makes a high fidelity dungeon crawler with extra content and battle presentation from P5/SMT V. And make it a ball-buster that personafags won't expect and will give a good challenge to mainline fans.
Once More doesn't work if you can customize the entire party's skills and affinities.
>all the talk about whether they'll copypaste the new style of combat and music and dungeons etc.And I thought the elephant in the room about all the blights of modernity was THE CALENDAR. Since that would require massively restructuring the entire story, and makes extra little sense in an emergency situation. Also would funnel all the route-specific content into one slice-of-life blob. You can squint your eyes and gloss over the total time spent with Tatsuya's crew, but not with the first one.
Atlus WON
>>750860863It's not that hard. Just make it so that there's no school life. Easy. NPCs around the city are still alive and have their own problems, you could excuse they still need to sleep, etc.
>>750854848Is what this anon >>750849982 said true? I don't remember that cut content
>>750861274Maybe? They are the only members that are optional in both routes.
>>750856152Judging from the leak video: https://youtu.be/PGIkbY2n_y4>Combat based on positions is scrapped, instead replaced with 3/4's combat with the addition of negotiation and range weapons>Party rotation like every Persona from 3 onward will be a thing now instead of having you choose between 4 party members for your last slot>The optional party talks based on which room you're in have now been reworked into optional social link-esque cutscenes>Soundtrack will be neither the a remix of the original or the PSP but rather new compositions that use the original PS1 soundtrack as samples, as the fighting theme here isn't a remix of either battle them but rather a mix of multiple songs from the PS1 gameOnly looks pretty good, the big fear is how'll they handle Yukino and Snow Queen. On a smaller level there's some fear of them removing Satomi and Tamaki because they haven't brought back Satomi as a writer since the SEGA acquisition, but I feel they'll include him anyway since they were fine with getting him back as a freelance after he quit Atlus and almost everyone from back then still remains in the studio.
>>750861123The issue is not that there is downtime, but how calendar systematically enforces it. Compare modern Persona with most any linear RPG (that implicitly span a long time), or gameplay-first dungeon crawlers, or even games that mandate rest differently, like Kingmaker. If you are not bound by school life, or some other huge overarching structure, why not just ditch the timeslots entirely? The questions is if they'll have the balls to cut it down, or bloat into an 80 hour affair because of Persona the brand name.
>>750854848>all threeEarring Boy gets to fuck Reiji and pull his collar chain
>>750854848Eriko sex
>>750861865Oh you need to think about them like how IVA pulled it of. In other words, each day, a chapter.Practically speaking days can last hours and hours and other times you can be a "defeat boss and rest" day
>>750861865>>750861990I feel like there's probably going to be more emphasis on choices. Like certain dialogue options will give or take points away from characters. Who you choose to speak with first in various areas might give your affection with them. And depending how that goes it might change what scenes you can see.
>>750859935>I don't think it's even realThey rereleased 3 twice in a row and now they're porting 4 again, there's not a lot left they can do on the Persona side unless they dig into spinoffs or make a P5 Re-Royal
>>750854848So do you think they'll make new 3D models for the Personas? Or will they update some of the designs? Most designs are unique to this game without any concept art to accompany it but at the same time a lot of devs of this game are still in Atlus and some ultimate and initial Personas are designs used normal SMT, like Reiji's ultimate is just regular Mot without alteration and Mark's starter is also just the usual Ogun design, although in that Ogun has never gotten a 3D model before
>>750862213>So do you think they'll make new 3D models for the Personas?A handful anyways.
>>750854848PS1 version character toggle
>>750854848I'm not opposed to this getting a remake but shouldn't Devil Summoner and If should have gotten this treatment first? I mean Tamaki is not only in both 1 and 2 but also casually brings up the events of If.I guess Atlus doesn't care since we get Aleph in the SMT IV Apocalypse DLC despite SMT II never getting a translation which is a shame since II's setting would lend itself well to SMT V's open exploration, now OG SMT is the one that wouldn't work and would instead need to remain First Person on be done in the style of Nocturne.
>>750862213I think you are asking who's going to be in charge of modernizing Kaneko's drawings.
>>750862784P-Studio is always going to be focused on doing Persona. They aren't suddenly going to pivot to working on non-Persona even if you squint and say If is Persona.Atlus has like 4 to 5 development teams and the only one doing shit that we know of is P-Studio. Maybe the others need to get off their asses and announce what they are working on.
>>750862805I guess I would prefer Doi? He's not as good as Kaneko but out of the designers at ATLUS he's the one that can reach the closest vibe to If, Devil Summoner and Persona 1~2, I wouldn't trust Doi to remake any other ATLUS game though since he's not really good at making things feel otherworldly/apocalyptic enough to match the usual mainline SMT vibe which was an issue I had with SMT V at times.
>>750860483Kandori is kino.
>>750862213Starter Personas, Ultimate Personas and unique ones like P1's Vishnu will get 3D models but everything else will be the same bulk from Persona 5 Royal and Shin Megami Tensei V Vengeance.
>>750862964>Atlus has like 4 to 5 development teams and the only one doing shit that we know of is P-Studio.1 studio working on P61 studio working on P4R1 studio working on P1 remakePresumably 1 studio working on something SMT1 studio still cooking next stage
>>750863285If they're doing P2 as well that busies some hands
>>750862964The newbies at P-Studio just got done with Persona 4 are probably either working on the Persona 1 remake or at least trying to pitch it with this leaked video, hell the leak might have been done on purpose to see if fans have actual interest on a remake of the first 2 games.The main P-Studio team that did Metaphor, Catherine and Persona 3~5 should be working on something but it's most likely not Persona 6, at most they're just helping/overseeing the team from that game.The team in P-Studio that's most likely making Persona 6 are either the one that made Dance All Night and Persona 5 Royale or the team that made Persona 5 Tactica, maybe both.The team that handled Raidou and SMT IV are probably either working on a remaster of Raidou 2, or working on a remaster of Digital Devil Saga since the remaster of the first Raidou game sold poorly from my understanding and there's been some Nvidia leaks hinting that a remaster of DDS is in production, that's how we originally found out of the Raidou remaster in the first place.That just leaves 2 teams whom we have no idea on what they're making, the team that made Soul Hackers 2 and Tokyo Mirage Sessions, and the team that made Growlanser, the Devil Survivor Games and the last Etrian Odyssey remaster.
>>750854848Everything about the game and story will be flanderized to more closely resemble the Hashino shit formula
>>750863756>and the last Etrian Odyssey remaster.How do you know it's the last EO remaster. Are you from the future?
Has Atlus devs ever talked on an interview on whether or not they have interest in touching old IPs of their beyond remasters? I liked Atlus fighting games and shoot em ups, it would be cool if with the Persona 1 remake they do something like the Yakuza games and let you play an emulation of Groove on Fight since 1's protagonist canonically wants to save the world so that he can go back to play it.
>>750864371You'll never get a straight answer with that kind of question. People don't realize just how loaded it is. They will never flat out deny something because it will look bad so you'll get some stock answer about weighing demand. Journalists should know better than to even ask. >let you play an emulation of Groove on Fight since 1's protagonist canonically wants to save the world so that he can go back to play it.That would be too good.
>>750864427I guess I'm too used to Toei tokusatsu interviews where they're extremely blunt about everything in interviews to the point of tone-deaf at times and just assumed it was a Japanese thing.
Uncle Phil and Nyarlatho-Hitler
>>750855562>No School DaysSpeaking of School days, any ideas for when the remaster will come out?
>>750855562Deadlinehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGC0RLwOb0w
I forget, did they ever fix how XP was passed out in the PSP version of 1? I'm surprised that's not something more people complain about.
>remakes remakes remakes remakes remakes remakes remakesENOUGH ALREADY GOD FUCKING DAMN
>>750854848i just want ther damn 90s atmo kept in tact the remake looks like its another P5 skin suit
>>750864624>Toei tokusatsu interviews where they're extremely blunt about everything in interviews to the point of tone-deaf at timesSuch as?
>>750862213>>750863240character starters, ultimates and the ones with actual art could get remade easily>9+9 (starter and ultimate for each character)>the 8 with full color art (pic related) (MINUS one because they already did Vohu Manah lmao)for comparison, P3R had MC's three uniques and 17~ tied to party membersmost other designs only exist as pixel art and aren't even by kaneko, not like Devil Summoner or Soul Hackers where there's literally 300 artworks fully colored. those ones are absolutely getting replaced with random existing shit.
>>750862784>but shouldn't Devil Summoner and If should have gotten this treatment firsttheir stupid Remake Request survey from 5 years ago that they've been following didn't even have if... or Devil Summoner, or ANY game that was only in Japanese, as voteable optionsyou want SMT2? you want literally anything that isn't already in English officially? fuck you
>>750865789This is the exact kind of thing that SHOULD be remade though. I like Persona 1 but it is a ROUGH game. Remaking 3 and 4 was pointless cash grabs but 1 is thirty years old and even for 1996 it never really felt like it lived up to its ideas or potential.
>>750865789the remakes will continue until morale improves
>OG Persona remakebasedSMT I remake soon trust the plan
>>750866624What's the difference between the revised Kalin and the unrevised one?
>>750854848When is Kaneko coming back to Atlus?
>>750866935>SMT I remake soon trust the planwe know "the plan" and SMT1 isn't on it. neither is SMT2. or if... . Or Devil Summoner.
>>750867016Are Devil Survivor bros doomed to suffer?
>>750865789Dude 1 and 2 could ACTUALLY use remakes.3 and 4 getting graphical updates is nice but 1 and 2 needed them.Also fix the shitty gameplay while you're at it, fuck is 2 a slog.
>>750867016>pic100% I'd fuck with a DDS remasteralso still waiting for the second Raidou remaster
>>750865789Persona 1 is a fucking ps1/psp game, if any game needs a remake, it's them.
>>750867567Seriously. That we can finally get the characters to look like who they're supposed and not playmobile toys is worth it enough.
>>750867060Assume the reason we don't get Devil Survivor is because the Etrian Odyssey team keeps changing, the main heads of the original left after the first game, the devs that handled most of Etrian Odyssey are now in charge of mainline SMT, the team that did ET 4, Q and Trauma Center got promoted and are part of P-Studio, so now the Devil Survivor team was left to head the franchise.Which sucks, because I feel now more than ever Devil Survivor would succeed with how popular Fire Emblem turned out to be, Atlus being more well known in the west now and people liking the character designs of Digimon Time Stranger.
>>750867696Seriously. It was an Atlus game in a time when that was a big deal and it's a Nintendo exclusive and it's anime as hell for the weebs. This should be one of Atlus's pillar series.
What's this deal about interrupted skills?
You now remember proto Brown
>>750869271If you shrunk him down and gave him wings he'd make for a decent male pixie
>>750869271never seen him before and have already forgotten what he looked like.
>>750854848I prefer them to be normal jrpgs like the original. I have dating sim fatigue
>>750866624There's also the Personas in picrel but I cannot identify some of them, like the one between Garuda and Shiva, the 3 between Shiva and Vishnu, the one above between Vishnu and Kali and the 2 above Hanuman, were these designs even used in the game? Otherwise a full list would be:-Full color>Seimen Kongou>Skuld>Kali>Vishnu>Shiva>Susano-o>Lucifer>Vohu Manah>Satan>Arianrhod-Uncolored full artwork>Aizen Myouou>Durga>Garuda>Gozu-Tennoh>Hanuman>Lakshmi>Urvashi>Vesta>Yamaoka-Featured partially in artwork>Ogun>Nike>Maso-Already modeled >Jack Bros-in Manga>Nemhain>Houri>Bres>Marduk>Airgetlam>Macha>Tensen Nyannyan>Armaiti-redesigned for the Manga>Ogun (SH design)>Michael (I think?)>Tyr (SH design)>Take-Mikazuchi (DS design)>Mot>Lilim-Initial/Ultimate w/o art>Amon-Ra>Verdandi>Frey
>>750869790This won't be a dating sim judging by the leak
>>750867016>etrian odyssey mentionned as 10th most wantedetrian bros ...
>>750868603Unknown at the moment, only that it changes the turn order for team members when you hit a weakness.
>>750869831Thank fucking God, tired of devs showing romance everywhere because fags want everything to be about waifus.
>>750854848My first introduction to persona was through my brother pirated psp with p3p. It also had p1 and 2 (ep I downloaded) and I liked p1 and 2 more than the modern onesI should dump the manga someday.
>>750869906Well, without getting spoilery, the lack of a conclusive romance in 1 is kind of a plot point in 2. I'm not saying they won't change it, but if they do it's going to be a pretty big change.
>>75086990630 years too late for that.
>>750870221Did they ever explain why he fucked off?
>>750870284Afraid of a conclusion. As if you can't pick both.
>>750870284Didn't you play the first game? He was gaming
>>750870345>bothYukino was also lusting for him>>750870351
>>750870345What if both pick you?>>750870351>Come to bed Naoya. >Not now, I got hot hand.
>>750854848i cant believe i have to play p1 and 2 now just because i hate remakes so much i have to play the originals out of spite
>>750870417>playing games out of spite rather than just playing whatever you feel like atmWhy? You'll never have fun that wayPlay SMT Nine btw
>>750870417remakes are only bad when they just rehash games that are already good
>>750854848>it's just p3r againCertified goyslop.
>>750870552because they get -70 euro when i play the old games thats how it works>>750870589i rather play a bad game than a remake touched by people who didnt develop the original
lmao
>>750870385Really? I haven't done SQQ.>>750870404There's no much to say. Best Persona girls for 30 years and counting.
lol even
>>750870720>because they get -70 euro when i play the old gamesSo... why don't you just play old games regardless of whether they have remakes? Case and point play SMT fucking Nine
>>750854848>HopesIt's not persona 5 grey>CopesPersona 6 comes out before this, surely >Expectations It's Persona 5 grey
>>750870849>Persona 6 comes out before this, surelyHow is this a cope? It's pretty much comfirmed at this point
>>750870820>play SMT fucking Ninei really wanted to play SMT nine but now im too scared to play it since the title has a f word in it
>>750854848are they turning persona in a yearly series? p4 in 27, p6 in 28, p1 in 29 and 2 or 6 deluxe in 30? pls no atlus sama
>>750870874they shit out remakes like it's nothing and now could use AI to speed up the process even more
>>750863756thanks for the comment it good infobut reading remake and remaster so often is just grim
>>750870890Pussy
>>750855404Now imagine playing it at normal speed, it really is just a bad shin megami tensei that needs a serious rework gameplay and storywise
I want to go back to the Heisei vibe
>>750871051But Persona 3~5 are Heisei too?
>>750871103not enough
I want to watch Maki and Eriko be bred by demons.
Why does earring boy and Tatsuya effortlessly exude so much more aura than the nusona protags?
>>750872573by this demon to be exact
>>750872653Actually I was thinking more along the lines or Orthus, Incubus, Orobas, Thor and the like.
>yt channel that uploaded the p1r video privated all of their stuff along that one>renames the channel as "deleteai"Alright guys, time to go home. The whole thing's a nothingburger.
>>750862213>Protag start with monkey Star Platinum>Ultimate Persona is a golden pharaoh, like The WorldKino
>>750872573hope the remakes and eventual gacha camoes give us more p1&2 hentais, maybe even with the girls from the new games
Why did this aislop look better than Atlus' remakes?
>>750867016I'm convinced they've modeled Chikarin after her.
>>750872985because atlus outsources them to the cheapest chinese studio they can find
>>750867016none of these games need a remake
>>750872745>>750872573Kill yourself
>>750872820Would be funny if the video was real and the guy just really hates AI
>>750854936my money is on it being a pitch sega asked for that they made in a week and the game never actually gets made
>>750872820Wasn't the original video leak on xitter?
>>750873440Original leak was on youtube, posted by a nip channel not affiliated with sega/atlus, whose last upload was more than decade ago.
>>750872573I am the demons
>>750870951They obviously put 10x more effort into P4R than they did P3R. It doesn't make any sense to hammer out a zero effort cheapo P1R skinned P5 spinoff that will sell 200K copies and burn everyone out on their remakes more than they already have.
I miss when Altus had honor and didn't care coomers
>>750854848>HopesGood Outfits>CopesOutfits at all>Expectationsbaby easy mechanics like theurgy showtime and 4more
>>750854848>Since P1R is realImagine putting this much copium because of AIslop
>>750873791lmao, this is what you get when you don't use twitter in 2026.
>>750855404>I will of course play the remakea million more years of soulless cashgrabs i guess
>>750873634it does make sense to the suit since its a quick buck, they also can repurpose the models for the gacha
>>750873730>Outfits at allthey will have dlc outfits and you get the phantom thieves outfits when you preorder
>>750870765the right girl is just yukiko
>>750874493Don't compare a goddess to the eternal hillbilly store owner.
>>750874493Yukiko wishes
>>750863756>hinting that a remaster of DDS is in productioni hope they call the guy who wrote the dds novel and now make the story as they originally intented
>>750874532>>750874569hope the 1 remake is real so we get 3d yuri from them
>>750874640Kill yourself.
>>750874670
>>750854848>HopesSomething that still retains the general tone of the original even with the overhauled gameplay. More content showcasing the cast and their dynamics (which might be the case given the leak), with some more attention given to party members that got neglected in P1. Some way for the Snow Queen Arc to still be present in the game>CopesOST choice like what P2 did (for the PSP release I think). Might not happen but it would be funny to see the actual maze-like dungeon layouts, complete with all the floor traps. Give the MC something beyond 'he has a piercing'. Snow Queen route isn't separate DLC. Game won't be padded to hell to extend it's playtime.>ExpectationsIt'll probably be at least competently made, and an interesting way to revisit the plot of P1. Don't really know what to expect since like another anon said it's so wildly different to where Atlus took the series.
>>750872573stay alive
I always felt like the first Silent Hill's plot was kind of a ripoff of Persona 1's plot.
>>750874591Anon the novel sucks and barely has anything to do with the original plan, for the story of DDS to go as originally intended you need its producer Cozy, its writer Satomi who incidentally also wrote Persona 2 and restructure DDS 2 SO that it's now 2 games since the original plan was for the games to be a trilogy.
I like the dating shit but it's such a tiny element that I'm surprised people give a shit
>>750873623And then Anon was the demons.
hopes: fully 3D overworld, new optional route, I propose a crazy Makai route linked to If...expectations: boring menu overworld, no hidden quest, tacked on calendar for some reason (they did it for metaphor, they can do it again)
>>750854848Having beaten the original JP ps1 version only recentlyHopes>speed up the game by several times>rework the level curve, remove xp splitting by contribution it's fucking horrible, combine persona and character xp/levels>remove positioning altogether or make it less obnoxious if it has to stay>rebalance the entire persona catalogue so that Gozu Tennoh isn't the most goated magic offense with almost free megidolas or Devils/Angels ignoring all magic attacks and only really losing to Pandora>rework guns to not apply over 7 instances of statuses in a single attack nearly invalidating most encountersCopes>keep the MC dicksucking to an absolute minimumExpectations>MC will have his cock jerked to the nth degree as the only wildcard>it will be P1 in a P5 skinsuit
>>750876754>restructure DDS 2 SO that it's now 2 games since the original plan was for the games to be a trilogy.ill take everything you said, better than just having the same game in unreal 5
>>750877958Well yeah I'd also love that since it would fix the pacing issues of the second game and we know the story itself is good in broad strokes so making it a trilogy would be a massive improvement, also the Satomi said he's willing to come back whenever and most of the games Cozy made after leaving Atlus would still be published by them so clearly they aren't in bad terms. I just don't expect them to do so since it would require them to make 2 new games and Digital Devil Saga sold poorly back when it originally released, which was the whole reason Satomi and Cozy left Atlus since the sequel scaled the fuck down due to the poor sales, also I don't think they would be able to get Cozy back since he's not making that many games as of late.I wish more re-releases did the whole "adding the original vision of the author that was cut", like imagine if Xenogears or Breath of Fire IV did that, has there ever been any re-release to actually do that?
>>750858589>raping the IPFFcuck you don't even play their games...
>>750877719>>MC will have his cock jerked to the nth degree as the only wildcardDumbo, the leak already showed Elly with another persona
How they will balance everyone being able to switch Personas?
>>750864370Nta but seeing the corpse pieces of 3U crammed into nexus (coincidentally just the first two stratums) brings to mind an aborted remaster project
>>750879591The first Persona had a system where each party member had their own arcana affinities, and their equipped personas would work best if they matched - MC was Emperor aligned for example, so he's best with personas matching that arcana. There's also negative affinities too that reduce performance, and some affinities that can't equip certain arcanas at all, so you can't just equip anything on anyone.So it's likely going to retain that, probably even doubling down on stat boosts/penalties to further encourage actually getting a full affinity persona rather than settling on one that's just 'good enough'
>>750879908Assuming the video is not IA, it seems like they are still going the "Press turn-lite" route.
>>750854848I'm tired of these remakes/basterdizations that remove the tone, feeling and charm of the originals. The people who claim to "love" persona and these types of games never end up buying it despite everything being changed and sanitized for them.
>>750878590>it would fix the pacing issues of the second gamei havent read the novels so i dont know what they added/changed, but going by the games i wonder what would be the best approach to split the second game in to two, despite 2 story just rushing towards the end i didnt feel any plotpoints neeeded more attention, except maybe cielo's origin but that could be solved in 1 dungeon. i know its mentioned in an npc dialogue but that seems off for a party memberi found it odd that the end of 1 and the op of 2 makes you believe its about serph finding his way to his gang, but then you start the game and just chill with gale and argilla, so perhaps that part could be made longer. or the whole second game is about finding sera and then the whole third game is on the astral plane/sun and about the merging of seraph, so every game plays in a different realm of consciousness. junkyard-earth-astral. these would be my ideas>has there ever been any re-release to actually do that?cant think of any. the ff7 remake acts more like a sequel than a remake but thats not quite what you mean
>>750878590They wont do any of that. They already give their beloved persona slop remakes so theres no way they put any effort into a game who's flop almost killed their studio. but remaking a game in your original version 20 years later now that you got infinite persona money as a "fuck i still live" would be based. Too based for modern atlus
SMT 6 doko?
>>750879364what?
Has modern persona systems I don't fucking care, the shitty old system was bad and they should feel badAlso walking without getting enemies jumping in my ass when I take 3 steps forward
>>750881443The tone seems pretty in line with the original even from the 30 second WIP clip we've seen, I think you're just retarded and probably haven't even played P1.
>>750874532wife
>>750854848as someone who actually played p1 (psp) and finished SEBEC, think the art direction looks fine and actually fitting of its 90's era, and that any new personality traits on the characters will be good because they are bland as shit in the og. the too cool for school attitude on that cg cut-scene also matches, although it had horror elements, the game very rarely would show any characters expressing horror outside of the very early game confusion of what's going on.the two biggest copes is that they iterate on the original negotiation mechanics (instead of just porting p5's, although given there was no in-game battle button for it, seems like they will just port), and that they wont actually throw away the positioning mechanics which were wasted potential for 90% of the original game. That actually made it different from the sequels and could absolutely be reworked in a way that was reminiscent of the original while giving it some uniqueness compared to the sequelsthe cope part, is that i wanna believe this was just a very early internal pitch and they will implement that later, but given how fast they are making these now it will very likely be as cookie cutter as 3's with 5's negotiation latched onto itoh and school days must be in the game, they can throw the rest of the psp album if they really want, but that one has to stay
>>750883327ask in 10 years
WIll they remove Chestbuster Mara?
>OG leaker takes down the leak in protest against AIWtf
>>750855035>The English cast won’t suck>Expectations>The English cast will sucklollmaoENdubfags get what they deserve.
so is p1r coming first or p6
>>750854848I hope that it somehow has the atmosphere of the older SMT/Persona games.www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf2U7kUuxp0
>>750886414Honestly, based.
>>750870951The channel that posted the video deleted it and renamed his channel to deleteai. Looks like you were spot on.
I really hope the remake lets you recruit everyone, or at least makes it clear that you have to choose. Otherwise everyone's just gonna pick Brown by accident. I picked Elly on my first playthrough and she was a delight, but only because I knew about the choice beforehand.
>>750854848My biggest hope was going to be that they'd adapt the original grid based gameplay since I thought it was a neat idea, and even if it wasn't great they proved that they could make interesting grid based stuff with Radiant Historia, but the leak proved that they're just converting it into a bog standard RPG so whatever.I hope that they at least keep a couple of the absolutely wacky status effects or something.
>>750885602>oh and school days must be in the game, they can throw the rest of the psp album if they really want, but that one has to stayFor me it's this that has to stayhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MExEnrj8aRU
>>750861990>like how IVA pulled it of. In other words, each day, a chapter.I don't remember Persona IV Arena being structured like that
>>750855174That would obviously also be DLCEnjoy your brand new(PSP based) OST
>>750854848I stopped caring about this franchise after the disaster that was P5's story and have seen nothing since to alter my mind.I am hopeful that we'll get some quality Ayane and Yukino porn from this, though.
>>750890479based
>>750887984P6, don't be retarded
>RevelationsI will never care. Started at 3.
>>750887984p6 was already announced, this wasnt
>>750891523Cope
>>750893153>The game that just started development will release before the game that's been in development for years that was estimated to release 2027Seek mental help
>>750870552isn't that the girl from kite? what is she doing in smt nine?
>>750893561SMT NINE has the same character designers as KITE and Virgin Punk
>>750881691The novel sucks but it isn't the story that the theoretical trilogy would have followed anyway. Basically the novelist came up with the original story for the trilogy then Satomi and Cozy heavily reworked it to include actual mythological symbolism and elaborate on the villains, the novelist pretty much just focuses on the cannibal aspect, all that Hindi mythology about cycles that the core of the story revolves on in the games was ATLUS' idea.
>>750865789You should've bought Metaphor dumbshit.
>>750872820He's really making AI look good here if that video was fake, which it isn't.
>>750873028Was she already with Atlus back then?
>>750856481SQ will be the second story arc to make Nyx the defacto Persona IP Big Bad TM
>>750894320they shouldnt wait with the deluxe royal golden fes vengeance edition
>>750886414Because the footage was made with AI?
>>750865789we are at the start of a global recession with even more war on the horizon. companies will spam remakes for the next fucking decade up until the mid 2030s
>>750896753Seems too consistent to be AI, more likely it was leaked in protest of ATLUS ising AI like they said they wanted to in past interviews.
>>750872637they were made in a time where male characters were allowed to have bold masculine energy. now every mc has to look like a traumatized fuck boy who needs a hug 24/7
>>750897607I think it's likelier that the leak was made to see if people have actual interest on a remake of the first 2 Personas rather than as a form of protest
>>750874696>>750874532>>750874569>>750874493Yukiko is the dumbest piece of shit I think I've ever seen
>>750861274>>750861338https://www.youtube.com/shorts/RdJZsCYNO3U?feature=share
No one cares about Persona 1
>>750898842I care about Revelations: Persona
>>750898834neat
>>750898834I don't see why they would bring back this route, since they've already decides it was too pessimistic.
>>750899708It's hard to say what they'll do route wise because p2 is a direct sequel so there's an established canon ending.
>>750900269Oh anon...
Is there an updated version of this to include SMT V?
>>750855143Its gonna be exclusive to the Snow Queen route which will also be paid DLC mark my words
I don't think Snow Queen will be DLC since unlike The Answer which was from a special edition Snow Queen was part of the first release of the game, I also feel that because people complained of the whole The Answer bit is the reason we're getting Golden content in 4's remake.Also since the leak implied that you'll have swappable party members this time I could see them integrating the Snow Queen into the SEBEC route kinda like the Manga did because otherwise Yukino has nothing to do, also Persona 2 states that the protagonist somehow found the way to do both routes anyway so doing it this way could certainly help.
>>750874438That's why my hope is good outfits but alas...
>>750902345I think it was much more likely for them to cut out the Golden content from P4R as DLC than to cut Snow Queen from a P1 remake.>>750874438>>750902421Who would be which PT? Piercy=JokerMaki=Sumi Ayase=AnneMark=RyujiNanjo=Prince AkechiReiji=Edgy AkechiElly=HaruYukino=MakotoBrown=Yusuke?
>>750900780SMT 5 is basically a sequel to the true demon ending of 3, so its wherever 3 is.
>>750854848I once saw a doujin with the slut on the left. Unfortunately she was only in a single page.
>>750902345> I also feel that because people complained of the whole The Answer bit is the reason we're getting Golden content in 4's remake.These people are the reason we got fucking Marie forced fed to us?
>>750903647>I once saw what everyone here must have seen already
>>750904058that was a good one
>>750904058God, I love freckles.
>>750854848CHEERLEADER! SO AND SO! WHAT'S HER FACE! THE UGLY ONE!
yukino is only ugly in p2 where she looks like she's a few burgers away from being a fat lesbian
>>750896753If even the AIfags say they can't make something on that level of polish yet than how did some random bumfuck in japan do it? The only explanation is that this guy somehow got his hands on this test footage from somewhere.
I never thought I'd see the day the OG Persona got this much attention.
>>750905441P2 was a very bad time for Yukino in general.
>>750855404I was thinking about giving it another chance since some people here do like it. Is that a bad idea?
>>750906318Be true your mind
>>750906442Truthfully, I was very mixed on it. Some parts were fun and others were a complete slog. I don't know whether speedups would smooth over the negatives enough.
>>750905836Yeah this is the 5th thread and the shitposting is surprisingly minimal by modern /v/ standards, it's comfyI imagine the one after this will be the last thread with lots of posts since we've exhausted most topics and Persona 4 is approaching
>>750869795What is the lore of the singer and pianist?
>>750907258They play the velvet room song, it was also confirmed that in P3 and onwards that they are still residents in the VR(a general one)
>>750907751>Velvet Room and Igor gets taken over by a false god created from the wishes of the masses >don't give a fuck and keep playing/singing the same song on repeat
>>750907258They're guests but they're not out to save the world or anything, they're just there to chill and make musicThe Demon Painter is similar except painting demons is pretty handy
So following the usual patterns, SMT VI will be chaos centered like Nocturne right? Hope the Devil Survivor writer ups his game a little, SMT V was a downgrade in terms of story compared to his previous games but I guess it might have also been a result of the game having multiple head writers and them seemingly needing to rework the scenario late into development where they dropped a lot of the ideas from Yamai (SMT IV's director)'s original scenario.
Persona 2 still have the best Persona designs, honestly these might be my favorite Kaneko designs after Soul Hackers.
Apollo and Orpheus are my favorite persona designs
>>750909190Apollo looks kinda gay.
>>750905284heh
>>750908747I hope they announce something soon, with P4R in the start of the year and P6 supposedly at the end they could announce something for smt in the middle, or at least early 2028
>>750909475>with P4R in the start of the year and P6 supposedly at the endHoly shit. I know it's been a while since P5 but is this too much Atlus at once?
>>7509096472024, they had P3R, Metaphor and SMT VV
>>750909190P2's Personas especially have an extremely heavy amount of influence from Jojo's Bizarre Adventure. Persona has always been especially derivative of Jojo, but Kaneko really didn't hold back with P2. I feel like Soejima simply distanced himself from that aesthetic a bit.
>>750902345Golden's content is inseparable, you can't just cut it out and resell it because it's tied to the calendar.
>>750909995I mean, you could sell it as some NG+ only shit.
>>750854848They need to keep the original demon negotiations and have all the party members be wild cards or I will pirate.
>>750905836>>750906870There's a surprising number of Persona 1fags on /v/, probably helps the game being """grindy""" (it's not) filters a lot of nu-sonafags so they stay in their waifufag threads.Persona 1 also just has a very memorable cast for a PS1 RPG, honestly it's still one of my favorite JRPG parties ever and I think the strongest party of any Megami Tensei game.
>>750910559>Everyone only has like three Persona slots each>There are hard limits as to what Personas they can use>Also all characters will have elemental/statistical affinities, so Mark will only be be particularly good for phys. His low SP and magical affinity means he'll be a trash spellcaster no matter what you equip him with.>Ultimately, literally every player will be using the exact same Persona loadouts for every character because forcing characters out of their comfort zones will lead to nothing good.
>>750905441That goes for literally everyone from P1 except Nanjo and Reiji.
>>750910708trve... I don't need to be reminded of hidehiko
>>750854848They are going to either repackage the Snow Queen route as DLC or somehow try to reintegrate it into the main story route.
>>750910601For me Persona 2s and Devil Survivor 2 have better parties but yeah Persona 1 party is great, I was pleasantly surprised by it since before playing it everyone told me this was just a simple JRPG with no depth but you get so many dialogues with the party that makes them really memorable, and B-horror movie setting is rare for JRPGs anyway so it stands out.
>>750855404what shaders are you using?
I think it'll be something like this.>One of each character's Persona slots will be locked to their main Personas. These Personas will dictate the character's stats. Switching to another Persona will not change that character's stats.>Like in the original, the protagonist's (or rather, Seimen Kongou's) stats can be customized.>Alternate Personas only have up to four skill slots. The other four skills will come from the main Persona. You can customize the main Persona's skills at any time, and they will learn more skills as they level up.>Almost every single alternate Persona will have weaknesses, probably multiple. It's possible to cover up each character's weaknesses, but it's hard. Natural Nulls, Drains and Reflects will be uncommon. If you want to eliminate all weaknesses, you'll have to dedicated skill slots to them.So basically, a mix of P1 and Soul Hackers 2. If you really can recruit all the characters into your party in a single playthrough, then it doesn't make sense to make every single character 100% customizable. You have to give each characters limitations and specialties in order to justify party rotations and swapping.
>>750910559If they pull wildcard bullshit then yeah that's a pirate.
>>750910559>>750913135They aren't wild cards. The wild card is not just the ability to wield other personas. The Wild card is the fool card, the ability to wield any persona without limitation.
>>750910601There are plenty of fans of P1 and 2. They're just older and lack the same energy as P3+ do. We got shit to do and can't spend the entire thread spamming the same girl picks
>>750913337Literally everyone that isn't a turbo P5 alpha gen is old as fuck now.
>>750861642>>Combat based on positions is scrapped, instead replaced with 3/4's combat with the addition of negotiation and range weaponsThey could have literally copied Valkyrie's Profile 2 battle system which makes positioning affects the fight.What missed opportunities.
>>750904058>>I once saw what everyone here must have seen alreadyTbf I'm a persona tourist and haven't played the games. I just saw the gyaru and got reminded of that.Hopefully she'll get more porn after this.
>>750862213God I hope they kept the BEST Vishnu design
This all got me curious to actually play P1. Is the PSP version the most recommended one? Or is there a PSX fan translated one? I don't feel like playing the official one that lacks Snow Queen... Why did they remove Snow Queen anyway?
>>750914012psp with the music hack as the psp version changed the ps1 musichttps://retrogametalk.com/repo/psp/persona-ps1-music-patched-hack-2/If you don't want to login just toss into google or the normal version if you don't care
>>750913836That's going in 100%, it's by far the most iconic design of the first game and was featured in that weird Devil Summoner live action show because they had made a suit for a live action Persona AD
>>750914012>Why did they remove Snow Queen anyway?american release always cut contents on almost every jrpg. Persona is just one of many. It's not rare.
>>750914617That Vishnu is the only reason why I took interest in P1 and play it
>>750909190a lot of them look really shitty and ugly but when Kaneko hits he hits hard
>>750913836He's the most marketed Persona from the game there's no way he isn't in this, he's even in the cover art of the PSP and PC ports
>>750909875I mean Kaneko and Araki are friends in real life and are fans of each other's work
>>750915216ohhh i never knew that, explains a lot of stuff lol
>>750910708I actually like how Maki looks like in P2. Maybe wouldn't call it better than her P1 design, but I at least like it.
>>750914012As the other anon said, the easiest way to play it is probably just get the PSP version with the PS1 music patch. There's also a mod to make the UI look closer to the PS1 version if you care about that.https://gamebanana.com/mods/608706
Out of this list, what do you guys want next after Persona 1?
>>750915216That's really cool, I didn't know that
>>750914395Thanks. Just downloaded it. Is there anything important I should know? I'm mostly going blind but I have some awareness of the game having weird things related to the last party member and how many there are, and the existence of Snow Queen. I just want to know if there's a weird glitch or soft lock that would force a restart.>>750914658>It's not rare.That just sucks... Did they do it for re-releases or laziness?
>>750915850localization to fit more of their burger culture. I'm not joking.
>>750915850Hmm barring the hidden party member and snow queen there is not a lot of hide stuff, if you want some tips there is the smtg page of ithttps://smtgen.neocities.org/persona_1 >Max out DEX and get Megido.>Unless the enemy will absorb or reflect it, always use your personas. When they level up, ALL of their stats go up.>If you want to go on the much harder Snow Queen Quest, and completely alternate quest, make sure you talk to everybody at school every single time you're there. Visit every room and talk to everyone. Twice.>The best 5th party member is Reiji, but you have to talk to everybody, including his mother at the mall before the real game starts, and you have to encounter him in front of SEBEC and at the abandoned factory at specific times. If you don't have him by the end of the school dungeon, you messed up.>Mediarama and regular Medicine will last you well past half way through the game>If you get into the lost forest dungeon, save your game on an alternate slot. Trust me on this.>Fill out every space on your map and fight everything you encounter to make sure you're leveled up.
>>750915850The main thing you should know is that if you go with the SEBEC route for your first run, which is recommended since that's the main story, your 5th party member isn't swappable, if you agree to have one member as your 5th party you're stuck with that one, so you need to decide which of the four you want.
>>750915850If you plan on doing snow queen in the future, you can pick Reiji, as the other 3 can be used on snowqueen but Reiji can't
>>750915792Persona 2 plays like absolute dogshit this is what I want remade the most out of this list
>>750915792From the missing ones>Port IV, IVA, Soul hackers and DDS1/DDS2And done i guess, then we can port desu1 and desu2, i don't think they need remakes as all of them are younger than P1
>>750916882Does it? It felt about the same as Persona 3 Portable when I played it only with a slightly more complex version of the demon negotiation from 1 and lack of All Out Attacks. The biggest issue I had was just how grindy a good chunk of the optional stuff felt because you needed to find an encounter based on luck.
>>750915792For me, Soul Hackers. Especially to wash the taste of SH2 out of people's mouths
>>750915974>localization to fit more of their burger culture.Yeah I know they made a lot of weird changes for it, what I don't understand is just outright removing an alternate path.>>750915994Thanks. Sounds like the 5th party member is just the kind of thing that justifies my habit of creating infinite save slots.>>750916616>if you agree to have one member as your 5th party you're stuck with that one, so you need to decide which of the four you want.Four huh? I'll create saves and test them around, if I manage to find all of them.>>750916710>If you plan on doing snow queen in the future, you can pick Reiji, as the other 3 can be used on snowqueen but Reiji can'tWhat do you mean? If I pick Reiji as the 5th party member, but then get in Snow Queen, he'll be swapped out by someone else?
>>750917171>what I don't understand is just outright removing an alternate path.Ran out of time and money
>>750917163But in Soul Hackers' case the 3ds version is pretty much perfect, is rather they'd just port that version to modern consoles, same with the 3ds versions of Devil Survivors and Strange Journey, the only thing I'd change would be to make DDS 2 slightly faster and add an option in Strange Journey to use the original portraits even if they're less expressive.
>>750917171>What do you mean? If I pick Reiji as the 5th party member, but then get in Snow Queen, he'll be swapped out by someone else?No more like, you can pick 1 of 4 people for SEBEC but snow queen is like a totally new route of the game, its like another story with new bosses and stuff you don't even play the main route if you go to itIn that route though they give you the other 3 party members that aren't Reiji, you don't even need to pick you just get them all, so if you do 2 plays>1 sebec with Reiji>2 snow queenYou get to use all party members
Sovl
>>750917171You'll be past the chance to do snow queen when Reiji can join. There's a lot of hidden requirements to recruit Reiji since he's supposed to be a secret party member, but it's worth it since he's by far the most story-relevant party member on SEBEC route.https://persona1.wikidot.com/reiji
>>750917287Interesting. Currently the party is composed of MC, Nanjo, Masao/Mark and Yukina. So if I do Snow Queen, everyone except MC gets replaced by the potential 5th party member?>>750917367I see. I'll try to make the requirements to recruit him then. Currently I'm talking with everyone at school.
>>750918131In Snow Queen you are locked into Yukino and Ayase. With the choice of the fourth and fifth slots being taken by either Nanjo, Brown, or Elly.
We'll FINALLY get HD art of their ultimate Personas. To this day, we still don't have a clear image of P1 Amon Ra.
>>750854848>Since P1R is realOH NONONONONO. PERSONASISTERS HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN?!!!!
>>750919483Imagine thinking this was real. Couldn’t be me
>>750919483>>750919532Don't shill your twitter account here man
>>750917367>https://persona1.wikidot.com/reijiIt's a good thing I took a look at this before going to the hospital. I explored the entire city, but I talked with the NPC after I went to the abandoned building, so I didn't see the Reiji scene. I did every step to recruit him naturally so far, except the very last one... I do wonder what the remake will do about him.
All the sudden discussion of P1 got me in the mood for a replay of it. Going to do it with the OST patch this time, only real question is who to pick for the extra party member, thinking of either Elly or Reiji.
>>750919483>>750919532Nigga Atlus has literally said they want to use AI to speed up game development.
>>750910601>it's notIf you already know the game in and out maybe.
>>750922518It really isn't grindy, the game is easy enough that you never need to grind. It isn't hard to figure out that Personas with strong all-range magic are good and you should probably use them. I'm replaying the game on expert and haven't gotten walled by any boss while intentionally avoiding grinding when I can.I've never done Snow Queen though, so I don't know how grindy that route is.
>>750915792Soul hackers. Should be easy enough.DDS next.
>>750915792Why is SMT4 Final more requested than SMT4? I thought SMT4 was the more popular of the two.
>>750923058Its really close so maybe its 3 or 4 fans of difference
>>750922662Fuck, fine. Lurking P1 threads has given me an itch to try it again.
>>750922662You'll want to grind a bit before doing the Snow Queen Quest because the optimal playthrough involves going through the towers in reverse order. Even with preparation, it CAN kill you, so you want to get a bit of grinding done prior to starting it.The good news is because you're tackling the hardest dungeon first, you're gonna get a lot of EXP fast. Once you complete the Thanatos Tower, the other two towers are easy peasy, no grind required.
>>750923058Because A has Mermaid
>>750922707>Soul hackers. Should be easy enough.Haha...
I never directly compared the soundtracks. Is it a case where the port doesn't fit the tone or can you go either way?
>>750923058SMT IV is a complete clusterfuck of half-baked ideas and broken game mechanicsApocalypse is an objectively more polished experience and has funny irish skeleton + YHVH is the final boss againand I'm not gonna lie, I enjoyed Apocalypse more than I did IV
>>750923945PSP version completely changes the tone.Compare the regular battle themeshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CR3yfusRQshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xb4PX3rPg6o
>>750923945The PSP OST is decent, but the original track fits the moodier tone of the game much better.
>>750924048>Battle is over before the music even really kicks in
>>750923945Yes not only that but the tracks themselves are also shorter. There is also less music tracks so you'll hear a lot of them constantly.
>>750923945The PSP soundtrack is great and imo a better listen as an album than the original one, the issue is that the music isn't as diegetic as the PS1 OST. Basically the PSP's songs are shorter so they loop faster, some vocal tracks don't fit some areas as they get constantly interrupted by random encounters not allowing you to listen all the way through and making them more annoying.So basically both OSTs are great and I recommend listening to both, but the PSP OST just doesn't work as video game soundtrack, it gets grating after a while with how much they loop.
>>750923751It's not a bad game. All they needed to do was to not call it soul hackers. Simple.
>>750924198Now you got me curious about how the OST mod dealt with that.
>>750924302But they hack souls in it!
>>750924302The story is awful. Everyone is retarded. Every single character is a self-righteous, narrow-minded brat.
>>750924309I've been using it, as far as I can tell the modder somehow added back the missing tracks and even got the pre-boss battle deadline intro loop working, so it should be accurate to the PS1's in regards to where and when songs play.
>>750924309There was an old music patch that simply replaced the equivalent music tracks. The newer one had to go and change the flags for each area/dungeon/room/event to the correct song.
>>750924048>>750924061I guess I'll go grab the patch then.>>750924229>>750924198That was my biggest issue when I first played the game. Lone Prayer got very, very grating eventually. I loved the overworld tracks though.
>>750866608Off the top of my head>The writer of Jetman, which is the Sentai season that inspired Persona's Featherman, is the writer with the most amount of credits in Kamen Rider, a producer admitted that the reason he gets hired so often is because said producer likes going out drinking with him>The producer of 2024's Rider admitted while the show was airing that she had to change plans of the show midrun because of a lack budget>The producer of the currently airing season admitted that she decided a lot of the themes based on memes>The producer of the last Super Sentai season as of now admitted while said show was airing that he couldn't get the writer he actually wanted, he also admitted that the last 2 episodes of the show sucked before they actually aired>One of the executives in charge of Toei's tokusatsu casually admitted in an interview that he had no remorse for putting Sentai on hiatus, and casually revealed the cancelation of a series of Rider movies on twitter before actually telling most people at the studio, said executive also didn't tell the guy making the last Sentai that it would be the last show until the show was halfway doneI'm just impressed that all of this is stated through actual interviews instead of leaks, I honestly wish more studios were as blunt because it at least let's you know what to expect and doesn't feel sneaky.
>>750854848I hope 1's remake has an improved version of the demon negotiation of Persona 2, the negotiation interactions were funny and the ability to mix and match party members to create extra interactions was great, the issue with them is that the demon dialogue was kinda generic by SMT standards so as long as they fix that I'll be happy.
>>750925576The issue with demon negotiations is that they get annoying after a while. A lot of novelty gets lost. For P5, the devs even realized this and added passives that allow you to skip them completely in the lategame.
>>750925389>The writer of Jetman, which is the Sentai season that inspired Persona's Featherman, is the writer with the most amount of credits in Kamen Rider, a producer admitted that the reason he gets hired so often is because said producer likes going out drinking with himThat is way too honest lmao
>>750909190Artemis diamond boobs...
Is he the only SMT protagonist to be a true gamer besides the one from Megami Tensei 2?
>P1: Gambling>P3: Music>P4: Fishing>P5: Coffee, curryWhat were Tatsuya and Maya obsessed with?
>>750926539>exclusively plays virtual pokerWe don't welcome his kind around here.
>>750926915He plays Groove On Fight though
>>750926915He's not a pach*nko player.
>>750917363>>750915097>>750911047What are the chances P6 goes back to being gritty and "adult" like this?
>>750927415I don't know what you mean by "adult" but I'd imagine the vibe will be like OG Persona 3 with a bit of 1's occultism but I don't expect them to go full occultist horror vibe from the first 2 games. The achievements leaks do seem to indicate that it will br darker since it implies each palace will be centered around murders and the goal is to view the victims' memories then get the culprits arrested in real life, all while we get side quests centered around smaller social links in the city that aren't the usual main arcanas. But all of this are assumptions based on the first teaser and the achievements so we don't really know.
>>750927194SEGGS
>>750926629Each other.
>>750928860That's adorable
Think Atlus will bring back Igor's bonephone?
>>750929883Might depend on how new Personas are summoned.In P3-P5, Personas are created via Fusion. You take two or more Personas and fuse them together into a new entity. In this case, a phone doesn't make a whole lot of sense since you're creating, rather than summoning. Though there are ways around it. For instance, break down the Personas into a phone, and use that to "connect" to the Sea of Souls.
>>750927194That's how you know he's legit.
Devil Survivor, Groove On Fight and Gunbird deserve more doujinsThe character designs in these games are pure sex
>>750926539The slot machine minigame is not fun.
>>750931304But pissing off your party members by going to McDonald's and the Casino at inopportune times is definitely fun
>>750927821>the goal is to view the victims' memories then get the culprits arrested in real lifeThat's basically 5's framework already.
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>>750931346It made me feel bad going literally everywhere except the hospital.
