GET IN LOSER, WE'RE REVIVING THE ENTIRE MONSTER COLLECTOR GENRE ALL AT ONCE
>>750859630>pokemonyou had one job
>>750859726They throw tantrums if we show the truth about them no longer being in the club
Ok, for all of you who got to try Roco Kingdom, I want to get your impressions on it. It literally has HANDHOLDING, so I’m surprised people don’t talk about it more. It also seems really cute. How were the f2p aspects? How is the battle system?
>>750859630So, how long until /vp/ turn into /vp/ - virtual pet
>>750860064That would be unironically for the best, as /vp/ is dead and other monster catchers need constant threads anyway (palworld, and we have had a lot of aniimo lately. also digimon). Also, it would be a natural place to have more general discussions about the genre.
>>750860064>non-Pokemon threads raided, spammed and botted constantly because Pokefans are ridiculously tribalisticWell, it would be funny at least
>>750859630get that disgusting pokemon shit out of here
Where the FUCK are Digimon and Dragon Quest Monsters these days? Why aren't they coming back with the rest?
>>750859630Get Roco Kingdom outta there, it's the only one without a single fuckable monster.
>>750860563Digimon is currently hanging out in the /a/ territory right now, and Squeenix is in the middle of developing a mainline Dragon Quest game. Only other monster collector games on the horizon right now is DokeV and Yokai Watch
>>750860763Palworld is the only one focusing on pandering to horny furries. All others are accidental at most.
>>750859726>>750859909>>750860403Uh oh, melty!
>>750861016im sorry tendie but its the truth.your games are nothing but interactive advertisements for merchandise these days.
>>750860064Mods would probably just create a separate board for it, there's far too much shit going on in the Pokemon Community to designate /vp/ with other Monster Collector games. They'll probably actually call it /vmp/ - Virtual Monster Pet, but I bet it's going to be full of tons of people trying to discuss Pokemon and tamagotchis of all things on there.
>>750860064it might as well, that board is so fucking dead
>>750861057>interactive advertisements for merchandiseLike all videogames?
>>750860807good lord
>>750861217>the tendie is so poisoned by what pokemon has become that he thinks all videogames are like that
>>750859630God I can't fucking wait for Roco Kingdom
>>750859928The multiplayer gameplay seems to be minimal outside of PvP. You can explore your friend's world and hang out with them, but you can't progress quests or anything while together.The battle system feels interesting. It feels very much like Pokemon, but the energy system and counter moves makes it more thoughtful. Energy adds an extra layer of resource management especially in PvP duels.Outside of PvP duels though energy in battles is more trivial because of the energy restore item you can use once per battle.I would say that the game will be very F2P friendly. Cash shop items will likely be mostly cosmetics and items that can change IVs and nature of your jinis.
>>750859630All four franchises in this image are "Pokemon Killers".
>>750861249Plenty of series sell merchandise, yes.>has becomeThere was a time Pokemon didn't sell merch? When was that anon?
>>750861408the devs deciding to sell merchandise does not mean that it is the sole purpose of a game.unless you can understand this, then there is no point in continuing this conversation.
all i'm hearing is that palworld merch sucks and pokemon is the merch king?
>>750859630>pokemon, rhythm beasts or something and 2 images of palworldWhat the hell is this pic OP
>>750861401kek
>>750861267Same. Every jini having a mount animation is awesome.
>>750861568CUTE
>>750861267When even was the last time Pokemon allowed you to touch your Pokemon?
>>750861792The 3DS games? I think?
>>750859630>Roco devs got Wolfe to shill ituh oh, tpci's not gonna like this!
still no shin megami tensei 6?
>>750859630>>750861267how many of these are gachaslop gambling simulators
>>750861792XY, before they removed it, Game Freak fucking sucks
>>750861792I don't even think they understand that having interaction with your pets in natural and personal ways is good and desirable. When they dropped follower-Pokemon after HGSS, they just didn't get the backlash at all, it took them ages to bring it back. Even Amie is a separate little menu isolated from the real game, a total afterthought.
>>750859726Pokemon unite died.Aniimo has more sexy furries than Pokéslop
>>750860763Speak for yourself fag
>>750862038they did let you camp with them in both SwSh and SV to play catch and shit, but pretty bare bones stuff
>>750862070What's the most Mitty-like Roco?
how's the monetization on aniimo? it looks like the monsters aren't gatekept with gacha shit but is there any other gay gatekeeping?
>>750862070Looks like Faputa
>>750862048Lets me know when modders figure out how to let you fuck them like they did with Palworld. lol
>>750861967The top two technically, but it's weird because you can only gamble for cosmetics. They still play almost exactly like a typical gacha, so don't get them if you don't want menus inside menus, weekly boss fights. and limited daily playtime.
>>750860563DQM: Withered World planned to release in December. 4 more weeks.
>>750862297Yes
It just literally looks like Genshin but Pokemon?
>>750862256There's 1 specific variant of a normally-free aniimo per season that you have to pay 10 bucks for. Just a variant, it adds a type for its defenses and a consistently useless extra move you can equip. That's kinda it. The main breaking point that gets people after they start is actually daily activities. You have daily stamina that prevents you from doing stuff like spending 15 straight hours getting a maxed out super team. It's not particularly confining if your intent is already to play regularly though.
>>750861446>the devs deciding to sell merchandise does not mean that it is the sole purpose of a game.Cool.I can just say that's not Pokemon's purpose then.
>>750862504you look at the modern games and tell me with a straight face that they're meant to be anything other than merchandise advertisements.
>>750862553If that's true that means this genre is really ass I'm afraid.
>>750862256The monetisation's pretty good compared to similar games, with one alternate form locked behind the paid battlepass each season (dual-type locked, mono-type free, and it's often a downgrade to use the dual-type anyway). However there are timed exclusives that you can only get through trading if you miss them, which might be a problem for some people. You also need to buy the battlepass if you want to get more than one of the free battlepass monster without trading.
>>750862728no, just pokemon. other people are still making proper creature catchers.
>>750862775Last part isn't technically true, you can get more of them by generating eggs from it at the RV park.
>>750862865Oh right, that is true too.
Everyone Shut Up! Watch this!
>>750862968WTF?!
If it's got cute bnuuy monsters, I'll buy.
>>750862782These "proper creature catchers" always manage to be worse and overhyped.
>>750859630So is any of those non-pokemon games a classic Hero's Journey kind of adventures or are they just jacking off to random blobs games?
>>750862256All the big money is in cosmetics. If you want to dress up your human character in the hot new outfit, you gotta pay real money. If you want to make your legendary monster all glowly and sparkly and beautiful, you gotta pay real money. There are free options for all cosmetics, but they don't look nearly as nice, of course
>>750862968A Witch!!!!
>>750862256I was looking into it a few weeks back just to see myself and apparently a big issue is that it looks generous at first but actual endgame is restrictive and grind-heavy with it leaning more towards keeping you on a very steep treadmill if you want to compete. There was also some issues with regards to the whole endgame team situation because people were arguing the paid monsters might be what you need to use at some point.Honestly, I'd avoid the gacha monster collectors if at all possible because at some point they're gonna power creep since they're already not averse to selling these things. I can only imagine how awful Miyoho's is gonna be.
>>750859630>AniimoMiss me with that kernel level spyware they thought they'd sneak in.
>>750860563Digimon got a great new game last year.
>>750861134>there's far too much shit going on in the Pokemon Community to designate /vp/ with other Monster Collector games.As of right now /vp/'s catalog is roughly 24% on-topic non-general threads, 16% on-topic generals, 21% low quality or off topic threads (e.g. twitter threads or the same genwars as the past 30 years), and 37% image dump threadsI think you could slip in some threads for other games
>>750863152dont worry tendie, i know you think that.
>>750863598I will also say that some of the on-topic threads I counted were of varying quality like discussing whether an african region would have a lot of black people, so don't be fooled by the number
>There are people in this thread saying pokemon doesn’t countI haven’t played a pokemon game since x and y but to try and exclude it seems stupid, it’s excluding metroid from other metroidvanias, doom from other boomer shooters, or dark souls from other souls likes
>>750863842You see the problem here is pokemon hasn't been good in at least 13 years
>>750863842probably because modern pokemon blows and is getting its shit slapped by things that even remotely take advantage of what current hardware can do. It's a shame because it still has one of the most golden formulas every created but they halfass it at every turn
>>750862757>FarmingW-what does he drop?
>>750863898Pokemon hasn't been good since 1996.
Scalpermon is only good for the cards that retards speculate on and I get to watch grown men get into fistfights over.
>>750863531This. I've been playing Aniimo for over a month and then suddenly mustard gas
>>750863184Palworld's and Aniimo's story are afterthoughts, but I bet Roco Kingdom has a solid one.
>>750863531>he doesn't know about what Tencent's about to do to his system
>>750864703Vagueposters don't know anything.
>>750863842The pokemon analogy would be like if they released Wolfenstein after Doom and kept going down from there. They're catastrophically out of touch and unwilling to improve real problems, while introducing new problems every gen.
>>750864648Shame that Roco Kingdom is made by a company owned and created by Tencent.
>>750859630got into roco kingdom beta and loving it so farcan't wait for the full releasepokemon winds/waves also looks decent, but i'm more excited for the multiregion gamebut my most anticipated monster tamer for now is dokev
>>750862338roco has zero gachanot even for the clothingit has paid clothing, which later becomes available for f2p players after couple months
>>750864886Any coolmons in it?
>play the new pokemon killers>they feel worse than whatever nupokemon title retards complain aboutNice try! Since trying aniimo I'm even MORE excited for pokemon winds/waves and I WILL be buying a switch 2 just for the launch.
>>750859928amazing world I had fun exploring it still not done and the battle pass is really friendly to fp2 (though since its a beta we have access to premium) in a few hour that bunny with a skateboard star will hatch I know there one anon that likes it
man can we get some UIs with some soul
>>750863998i thought you posted a picture of prime 4 for a second
>>750860064Hey, that's not a bad idea
>>750865218
>>750859630Can I have monster collecting without the furfaggotry please
>>750865249>waiter can you strain the onions out of my french onion soup
>>750863998>probably because modern pokemon blowsPost other monster catchers having a better competitive scene, monster designs, mechanics, setting, and characters than Pokemon.
>>750865079the titles you get for collecting 200 mons and reaching a pvp rankdo they both carry over to the final version?
>>750865079i really want that electric/flying dino birdwhere did you find it and does it fly?
>>750865369idk, folks from discord said the duckiji with the hourglass and title might carry over or a rumor keeping one jini to global release
>>750865291they're called monsters
>>750865410I went to a friend world to catch it I don't recall the area
>>750865470can it fly though?
>>750865510idk the reason you see it there is because on the jini providing wood materials it was the highest so I never got to test it
>>750865410I was able to get the electric bird from a wisdom fruit tree. I don't remember which one though. It can fly.
>>750864648Aniimo's charm is in the side quest stories. The overarching plot is just the soup broth where all the meat floats around
>>750865576was it the one near kingdom prison? i found a fruit tree there but didn't have enough entries in my dexalso nice to know it can flydoes it fly faster than the bird mon we get early on?
>>750865640Look Aniimo's one of my favorite games in a long while, but the main story is about as good as a minor event sideplot in Genshin Impact, which doesn't even have a good main story either. It badly needs improvement in this department and I refuse to dampen or sugarcoat that dire need.
>>750865664I think it's the tree near the Kingdom Prison area. Although I had to look up the item under its Chinese name 噼啪鸟的果实 since I don't actually remember which tree it was from.The speed didn't feel very different. It feels like all of the flying mounts are pretty slow and only really for ascent.
>>750859630And all of those games are dead except pokemon.
>>750867002I don't know about Palworld, but Aniimo is incredibly popular, and Roco is one of Tencent's darlings so they would have to try to fuck up. Things are actually looking pretty good.
>>750867276So is the mounting mechanic also how you hold hands with that other one?
>>750867350yeah depending on the size some can even swim and fly
>>750867276how do you get the star bunny
>>750867695friend gave this to me but the battle pass shop has it for 50 tokens so I'm going to breed and make a shadow bunny
next year we are winning so bigly again
i really hope the switch 2 lite has rumble so i can grab it to play winds or wavesthe $300 price tag is so much more reasonable
>>750867695You can buy its egg at the event shop or chain capture stellar class jinis. It's called Astrobun if you're buying from the event shop.
what kinda foxes does roco kingdom have?
>>750868052
>>750868087thats... unfortunate.
>>750859928Me on the top
>>750867959so chain capturing can bring out a jini from the desired class instead of species?
>>750868261Yeah there's a chance that it'll spawn a seasonal jini instead if the chain capture conditions are met.The season duels around the map have each of the seasonal jinis that can be found through chain capture, and when you win the duel, the person tells you the chain capture conditions.
which game lets me have crow pets?
>>750868052There's also this line, but even the face of this one is ugly.
>>750868052>>750868087Palworld is still winning there
>>750868782thats better, but yeah. wow. they did these foxes dirty.
>>750860064But if they did that the board would be too fast to support the human character eaifu threads
>>750868974that's good
the soundtrack for roco is nice
>>750867372Sounds neat, pretty good system to have.
https://youtu.be/CIwzFXyG1oc?si=uiZIj2ZdMJnclkj2roco kingom has this in some sort
>>750865451Why are there monsters in your French onion soup?
>>750859630Only two of these are actual games, instead of freemium live service garbage. And of the two actual games, one of them plays like a survival game such as Ark Survival Evolved and Rust much, much, much more so than it plays like monster collector or raising games. It still makes Palworld the best of its genre though. But it's a different genre.
>>750859726This. Why post a game made by the retards who tried to kill the creature collector genre. Or at least is owned by retards that tried to pull this shit.>>750860064I still think a creature collector board would be better than vp. Vp is 99% just porn and usually the most autistic and cringe fetishes to boot like giantess, inflation. But on the other hand imagine if those people didn't like it and flooded /v/ and other boards even more.
>>750868459Corvids are so cute man. Now that you mention it I've not seen a corvid looking monster yet in Aniimo just Palworld.
So where's my Pokemon Snap equivalent of the monster collector genre?
I love Roco's menu
>>750862048Some of the new aniimo are nice
>>750862048
>Palworld 2024>Aniimo 2026>Roco Kingdom besides GTA VI being all over the place 2026/27>Palfarm and maybe More Than Just Pals 2027Nintendo will take the L over and over again. It's time to step down. Nintendo jumped the shark long ago, only some of the designs are great like Farigiraf or Meowscarada for the furries.
>>750871359Is there any Western that is worth looking into? Never Wither is the only one that I could think up that is consider "okay". They/Them palworld copy look like shit
>>750871384This thing along with Glameep and Jeburst is an enrichment par excellence. Can't wait to get the black-and-yellow Coraliz.
>>750871418Did you get the rain fall variant? And sadly, Prismana Jeburst seem like shit, stats wise, as it has a shit tons of weakness that the Base version does not have.
>>750871418They're cute. I wonder how they can just burrow/swim on the ground like this.
>>750863152>worse and overhypedpokemon you guys called ZA a breath of fresh air and it was still boring and lazy.and the same with PLA when it first release when it just a tech demo to test the waters.
>>750871490
>>750865249Dude just play yugioh at this point, it would be better to come to terms that furries will always attach themselves to any game with bipedal animals or animals that act like humans or animals in general.
>>750870505The take photos of monsters on rails while they're doing specific things genre is currently dominated by the Fatal Frame series
>>750862048>>750871351How do you use Glameep, it seems like pure garbage to me
>The dragon trying to befriend helmuts that you can bring along is by default given perfect inner potential>Can literally keep her on my team, evolve her without losing anythingExpected another common. Feels good man. If only the same applied to the first emberpup too but at least it applies for Lunara and Helion.
Aniimo needs a cheeky little trickster/magician already, why does everyone else get one? Even the first Digimon games had that archetype filled.
>>750871805Passionately. Have it laid on the back, wrap your arms around her.
>>750871490>>750871715>rainfall variant LOSES water type to become pure groundWhat on god's green fucking earth did they mean by this? Why isn't it the opposite?
>>750871854There are a couple others like that, there's a Veilfloat character as well that joins your team to move on from someone else. It becomes a Perfect for you.
>>750871384>>750871418>my little pony dinosaur coral editionlame as fuck
>>750868052Is this a fox?
>>750860064Oh god, that would be an hilarious melty.
>>750859726that slot belongs to time stranger
>>750871956Just wait. The third form will probably gain ice type of which corals cannot exist under cold conditions.Yeah it does not make really sense to me.
>>750872354nah thats just a creature.
>>750862968Cool. Now watch this.
>>750871996I do really like that touch. It doesn't punish you for being sentimental if that makes sense.
>>750871509>I wonder how they can just burrow/swim on the ground like this.By clipping into the terrain, by the looks of it
>>750859630>REVIVING THE ENTIRE MONSTER COLLECTOR GENRE>look inside>survival>crafting>open world>multiplayer
>>750873626It's the breath of fresh air the genre always needed! Turn based rpgs are for fucking nerds, didn't you know?
>>750871268the esc button interface is pretty good too
>>750871359dokev 2028, marketing will begin in the second half of 2027
>>750871268That is way too much color and animation. Don't they know that menus should be grey on grey minimalism boxes? That's like UI/UX basics for AAA developersAnd is that a radar chart I see on the right? That's insane the average gamer could never understand that. Imagine DSP looking at stats presented this way, would he intuitively understand them? No.
>>750859630this game is like, what if sword and shield were good games that lived up to our expectations after we got a taste of botw and mario odysseyand it's insane to think that this game was in development for years around the same time, completely under the wraps, and now it looks and plays exactly according to the expectations of most of us
I want to have sex with Dupin.
>>750860064as a digimon fag i refuse to share space with pokefags and those who shill its shameless derivatives. yokai watch guys are fine
Enjoy your lawsuit.
>>750875847enjoy getting raped by tencent
>>750872621Honestly true. Time stranger was really fucking good even if the dlc sucks ass.
>>750875346And I want macroniggers to shut the fuck up. Too bad neither of us will get what we want
>>750876906who the fuck are you and why are you responding to me schizo
>>750873626the monster collector genre only means collecting monsters. Just because most of them are RPGs doesn't mean it has to be an RPG. Digimon understood this from the beginning, even if the experimental gameplay didn't work out for it personally.
>>750859630oh boy, endless chinkshit eating its own tail
>>750873467>>750878327>we got Regigigas at home
>>750865218HOLY
>>750859630Roco looks good but I refuse to get invested in a game that will be dead in 2 to 4 years.Aniimo just looks off.Palworld is fun and I'm waiting for 1.1.The WiWa trailer gives me hope.Can't wait to for the big Digimon World mods to finally release. Specially Forge, since that could be a good platform for other people to make stuff on top.Imagine the original Digimon World becoming the utimate Digimon game thanks to the community, that would be wild.>>750872621When is the expansion coming out?Is Elizamon going to be in?
>>750868052Some of the best
>>750871268>The Jinies react to you literally pushing the menu towards themSO much fucking soul
>>750875847Nintendie fears BIG DICK Tencent
Whats your favorite monster collection method in a collect em game? There was one back on the gba where you summoned them from cards I thought was pretty cool. Way better than that triangle not pokeball crap
>>750878327>Regigigas but actually Useful
>>750859630So which of those are any good? I tried Palworld but refunded due to the annoying UE5 stuttering.
>>750878581>Roco looks good but I refuse to get invested in a game that will be dead in 2 to 4 years.The game has been around for damn near 20 years, the browser game to this day is still getting updates, Roco Kingdom World isn't going anywhere anytime soon.
>>750878828PMD where (You) are also the monster and get more by kicking their asses.
>>750878828taming them.significantly better for making it seem like the monsters are your friends than the pokemon method of slavery balls.
>>750861267>Genshin UI
>>750865470awwww so fucking cute
Roco Kingdom mogs NuPokemon so hard it's fucking unreal holy kek, this beta has been fun as fuck
>>750859630Do/will these other games have palworlds fluidity in mounting your creature?
>>750878828I like the Dragon Quest Monsters approach where it's implied they follow you and there's no capture item
>>750859630>pikachu if he heavy weapons guyabsolute state of chinese creativity
>>750879032>Modern Pokemon UI
>POV: young innocent pathfinder entering the goolands for the first time
>>750861267>still can't make smooth walking rotation for keyboard usersbunch of hacks
Any other Monster Crown enjoyers? I really enjoy the autistic breeding, especially once you access the gene lab in the first game though on a whole the improvements in Sin Eater felt pretty good
>>750879551This is what Pokefaggots defend lmao
>>750879551What is supposed to be confusing about this
>>750879503Palworld is Japanese
>>750879671Monster crown annoys me because you just want the highest stats in everything so there’s not really “builds” besides the passives. Also disappointing the 2nd game didn’t have a 2nd continent and general weird shit like the first.They’re solid games overall though.
>>750878828I played a indie game called Letalis recently where the theming is Roman gladiators so your “Pokemon” are just slaves you buy and animals you capture with a net, the theming made me laugh.
Personally, I'm waiting for Cassette Beasts 2002.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkBtCPsd6UE
kino
>>750880314Cassette beasts is pretty good I think too much of the creature collection game discussion is dominated by people who just want the Pokemon fantasy though.
How the fuck do i evolve my gay fucking chess piece?? I beat multiple chess pieces of every color i have used defend in battle and didnt transform i wasted a prism ball of this faggot
wtf are these dogshit designs bruh
>>750883087Pokemon killers, obviously.
>>750883087Pokémon, obviously.
>>750882580A shame, really. In any case, 2002 looks great from what they've shown off so far.
>>750883087The designs are good but held back by the bad artstyle that for some godforsaken reason the chinks find okay.Palworld wouldn't have won as hard as it did had it not settled for Literally Just 1:1 Copy of Ken Sugimori.
I want to fuck them all. Especially the small and cute feral ones.
>>750859630picrel is probably the best pokelike you’re going to get
>>750859726the only saving grace for pokemon is the romhacks or fangames
>>750868131>>750868087This design is based and hilarious
I play both Pokemon and Palworld though. And I have fun with both games.
>>750879735Nobody said confusing. Just that it is ugly, cluttered, displays information poorly, and looks generic as fuck
>>750885164You don't have to pretend to play Pokemon to avoid upsetting the tendies, Pokemon hasn't had a good game in over a decade or even two at this point.
>>750885287What do you mean? I just played Pokopia and Leaf Green this year. And if they get pissed I played Palworld too then that's their problem. I might get Winds or Waves. Haven't decided yet. It's all bullshots right now.
>>750873626Another tendie mindbroken by Palworld
>>750885573Pokopia is not a pokemon game, that's just animal crossing with a pokemon skin.Winds/Waves is going to be dogshit just like the rest of the games.>>750873626>look inside Pokemon>Mashing the A button to kill everything with your starter for like 15 hours straight
>>750885970Pokemon detractors go to insane lengths.
>>750879624Anon, those are NOSES
>>750859630Are any of these as autistic as Siralim?
>>750884743There is something about Western Design that felt so fucking off.
>>750886076You don't really have to go the distance to find something wrong with Pokemon, it's inherent to the game series that it is a bad game now.
>>750885970Pokopia is more like Viva Pinata where you create habitats to lure Pokemon into your town. And the building is like Dragon Quest Builders as it is made by the DQ Builders team at Omega Force. Pokopia still has gotta catch 'em all with the Pokedex. Plus its fun.Palworld is also fun for different reasons. Palworld is about resources and base management. You can build nice looking bases. However you need to optimize your pathways for Pals to not waste time going between food and jobs. Plus there's crafting resources to make more resources to craft the gear you need to take on higher level encounters. Palworld is also a shooter.
>>750879624>take care what is is just an ugly slime blob fish>the ugly slime blob fish is attach to you>it finally evolves>turns into this
>>750886710In case if you didn't know what her first form looks like
>this is one of Palworld's most popular mon
You can be a furfag in Roco Kingdom, soon.
>>750859928I want to breed Wispaw
>>750886356Pic unrelated? idgi
>>750844259And what does a "name card" fucking do, you stupid faggot?
>>750860064I've been advocating for this for a while now.
>>750868087Degenerates in shambles.
>>750887142didn't even win top 3 on the polls
>>750860221There's this thing called /vg/, maybe two more months on here instead of reddit will help you recognize.
>>750879671Apparently it was coded like shit and they'll use the second game's engine to remaster the OG, so I'm waiting for that.
>>750886498>>750865326
>>750859630you eventually grow out of this genre if you don't have faulty brain
>>750891960Why are you quoting me? I'm not the same anon that your schizo delusions are telling you about.Anyway who the fuck cares about 'competitive' pokemon, are you fucking retarded?
>>750892058
>>750892058Not really. First of all, like the above anon has pointed out: where do you think we are? Second: anyone who likes pets or animals would still be into this - it's a lot less work to raise a virtual animal than a real one.
>>750865025Good goy!Also>Since liquid shit is worse than shit, i WILL eat shit! And you cannot stop me!
>>750892138Why does this always happen? Someone says Pokemon sucks, you ask them which monster catching game has a better competitive scene (because that's where the best gameplay is), and they immediately get all mad and dismissive.
>>750893901>mad and dismissive.Projecting. NTA, btw.
>>750894402>ProjectingThat doesn't apply here my shill friend.
>>750894503>shillOh so you're just mentally ill, gotcha.
>>750894402>>750894572Notice how this guy STILL didn't answer the question.
>>750894612I wasn't asked a single question, schizo.
>>750865326Palworld has all of those except for a competitive scene, the appeal of it's multiplayer component is mainly people hanging out and exploring the world together
>>750892941I enjoy pokemon games and its only others that tell me I should play these very cheap knock-offs. .
So who likes DQ Monsters?
>>750895301>Palworld has all of thoseIt most certainly does not, the combat for example is far more simplistic.
>>750864050Roaches?
just began playing palworld for the first time having fun breeding new more optimal generations of assembly line slaves for my baseother than palworld how many non GaaS games are in this "genre"? aniimo looks cute but i will not play another game with daily logins and battlepass slop
>>750893901What exactly is good about competitive pokemon? It's just one shotting the opponent's pokemon and gambling on coin flips. You're retarded, kill yourself.
>>750859630>not including DigimonFuck off>All those cheap Pokémon knock-offsNo, thanks. Also, does any other monster collecting franchise let me transfer my monsters between games? Doesn't seem like that's the case. That's the whole appeal of Pokémon to me. That's why even though I think Digimon is a better franchise, I don't really play Digimon games.
>>750897916Compfags are retards who don't even enjoy the games so I don't know why this guy is seething at pokéclones to begin with.
>>750897916>It's just one shotting the opponent's pokemon and gambling on coin flipsI guess Wolfeyvgc just got lucky in those 15 tournaments he won?Kill yourself brainlet, subhumans like you shouldn't comment on these games.
>>750859630Are all of those free pokemon knockoffs popping on Steam any good? I haven't tried anything else expect Palworld because of the combat and base building.
>>750865218i still hate that tarantriss doesnt do this in palworld............... tho i wouldnt trade the slignshot for that
>>750859928cute balls
>>750899747Some Roco Kingdom mounts have a little slingshot/grappling hook too, there's a good bit of little traversal mechanics in Roco Kingdom like some can jump higher, grapple or wall run.
>>750896178>the combat for example is far more simplistic.If anything, Pokemon's combat is the most simplistic on the market. At least with Palworld, you're actually fighting in real-time, need to be constantly moving, and need to be conscious of your positioning and surroundings. Pokemon is just turn-based rock-paper-scissors that requires little to no thought whatsoever once you understand how certain moves work. You have all the time in the world to plan, because the opponent can't move until you take your turn, other Pokemon or trainers can't jump in and make a fight more difficult if you aren't paying attention while in combat, and so on. I always laugh when people go on about "competitive" Pokemon - I got bored of that decades ago when I proved you could curbstomp people with just basic moves and made more than a few "professionals" tear their hair out in frustration.
>>750859630Haven't touched Amiino and Roco, but Palworld is just a copy of Ark Survival, which already isn't great, with Pokemon expies.Pokemon is in the gutter right now. Mainline games are comolete garbage because of a myriad of issues that have kept piling up over the years. Champions is mediocre and really only there for comp. Can be fun, but usually frustrating and gets boring pretty quickly. The interesting spinoffs are barely seen anymore (new PMD or remakes for EoS and GtI when?). Romhacks can be pretty hit or miss, but at least they're free. Digimon Time Stranger is pretty decent and is getting a big DLC.Dragon Quest Monsters is getting a new game in a month and the demo for it was actually good.
>>750862048These new Aniimo killed Pokemon winds & Waveshttps://youtu.be/lRDh0PBi6t0?si=1177aROdBfjuYxAE
Is the latest Monster Hunter Stories any good?It looks pretty good at least.
HOLY SOULhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wm8WXfaWdeo
>>750901124>pokimans is too static duuuurBEHOLD >>750879551I bet you feel pretty stupid now, uh?
>>750901727It's good. Sadly some terrible design decisions and horrible post launch support killed any longevity and positive press for the game.
>>750874425compared to this anon?>>750879551 fuck NO!
>>750893901it's a silly question because who the fuck plays a monster catching game for a competitive scene? Pokemon stumbling into something kinda interesting because autists can't let go doesn't make it one of the main draws of the genre. Even within pokemon its a tiny fraction of the playerbase. More importantly it has nothing to do with the overall quality of the game which is abysmal dogshit coasting entirely on inertia from when it was actually relatively good and nostalgia in the mainline series and some kind of dumbass tech demo in the spinoffs that retards lie to themselves about being good just because it's different. Pokefags unironically called legends of arceus a good game
>>750879551Pokemon looks worse than a mobile game.LOL
>>750899535Who? Why would I know or care about some faggot who thinks Pokemon is competitive?The games are far too basic to ever have anything amounting to competitive depth.
>>750901842>>750901967Jesus Pokemon ZA looks terrible
>>750859726and they nailed it thanks Pokemon Champions
so was that exaggeration about "palworld ruining the genre with a thousand of clones" a nothing burger made by moraltards and pokefags, also why are digimon fans whining about ''that'' game i genuinely don't understand this autism, the fans, to my knowledge haven't actually done anything to them.
Nobody takes Competitive Pokemon seriously
>>750902102>story-mogged by NexomonYou love to see it.
pokefag really thinks that 90% of people who play PKM is for competitive, and said competitive is now being removed from the mainline games
>>750902226palworld just revealed a weakness in pokemon and the huge untapped market sitting there. Pokefags/nintendofags seethed for the same reason they always do. Also the most important lesson was most people don't actually care about pokemon's combat that much and the previous clones were gimping themselves copying that shit. The genre is about the creatures and interacting with them in the world, which can be way more than just having them hit each other or some lazy ass minigame. It's kinda stunning that it took so long for devs to realize that. Equally as stunning is that 30 years into pokemon you still can't even ride your favorite creature of choice. Fascinating stuff
>>750902928watch them deviate to gloating about the profits the franchise makes, it's always their last resort when backed into a corner when they run out of excuses on why their franchise "doesn't" fucking sucks
Pokefags being in denial with how shit the games have been will always be funny, the series has so much potential but as long as Game Freak are making the games its pretty much doomed for mediocrity
>>750903313Megas are so fucking stupid.
>>750902225lol that game is so dead, I see no one talking about that shit after the first week it came out.
>>750901124Pokemon's complexity only rears its ugly head when you dive into compfaggotry (aka coin toss simulator with extra steps)Palworld's combat is closer to rollslop+recallslop. By the end stages a quick mount is required to avoid dying>>750901562Palworld is great simply because it does what other monster franchises don't.>Pokemon is in the gutter right nowBecause they're Game Boy games that have been forced onto the big screen>PMDLast I heard, Spike Chunsoft said they had exhausted their ideas. Also, PMD gameplay gets old really fucking fast with those 70~99F dungeons (40 minutes for a single run, a single (invisible) trap can fuck you up)
this one from season 5 is so cute
>>750902102>it's a silly question because who the fuck plays a monster catching game for a competitive scene? People with IQ's reaching triple digits. You idiots just don't get it. It is because of the gameplay that Pokemon has managed to stick around so long. The idea that Pokemon's turn based kino combat will get upstaged by something like Palworld's third world nonsense where the monsters just fling shit at each other is just ridiculous.And yes Z-A is bad, it got rid of the combat for something worse.>>750903043>The genre is about the creatures and interacting with them in the worldRetard detected.Nintendogs would be king of the genre if that was true.Palworld isn't even good in that aspect. It is mogged by Digimon, and Digimon is mogged by Pokemon. Why? Because Digimon's combat is worse.
>>750904453and this one can be used as a surfboard mount
>>750904453> season 5There's an anime?
>>750904591Please explain how Pokemon's combat is good, then. It is extremely basic and boring with the only real strategies being 'stall hard as fuck with entry hazards' or 'one shot kill every pokemon'.The way you are talking makes me think you are a subhuman so I really doubt you will have a compelling argument.
>retards complaining that Pokemon is turn basedSo is Palword? It's just that you take 60 turns per second
about 8 hours into Roco Kingdom and yeah, this is the best Open World creature collector so far and its not even close imo. I don't think even Winds an Waves can top it even with the underwater shit it's probably going to have (Game Freak will find a way to fuck that up)
>>750904591>People with IQ's reaching triple digits.BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
>>750904651no, the game has seasons, each having a themeand the game adds new content, including new mons, every seasoni think each season lasts about 2 months
>>750904751>about 8 hours into Roco Kingdom and yeah, this is the best Open World creature collector so far and its not even close imo.Have you tried aniimo yet?
>>750904651
>>750904797Oh. Got it.It doesn't have those periodic FOMO "get it this update or it's gone forever" kind of e events does it?Having something like that for something unique and special is fine with me, but going the mobile game route of having one of those a month fucking sucks.
>>750859630Roco looks too genshittified, plus the characters are literal toddlersI can't take myself seriously anymore if I am caught playing a game like that
TENCEEENTRELEASE MY WIFE AND MY PC ACCESS IS YOURS
>>750902226Palworld gave anyone who liked Digimon World something to look forward to. It's not a complete replacement but it does tick many checkboxes (your base is the city and base pals are your recruitments, crafting stations are facilities, you pamper and bond with your pals, etc.).It's not the same though: levels instead of gyms and training, way less control over pals out on the field (no move, use a move, stay still, etc.), no care mistakes or pet care elements other than food (some will argue this is a positive), no rebirth (swapping in new pals is effectively the same as rebirth though), etc.
>>750905000nothey rerun previous season content alongside newer onesjust now, they made the season 1 content available alongside season 4and no, the game isn't grindy unless you are specifically making it (for example, you want to shiny hunt a specific prismatic mon with a certain nature, which will obviously take more time than just shiny hunting)you can't miss anything in the gameeven the PAID clothing becomes available for f2p players after some time, although it is randomly decided
>>750905327Fucking hell I might actually play this thing then.Neat.
>>750904591Compfags are a loud, whiny minority. Nintendo and GF merely tolerate their existence by allowing showdown to existComp Pokemon is a coin flip simulator. You lose at character select.The combat is so fucking gay and imbalanced they ban moves (e.g. baton pass, because abloo abloo you lose if you don't have the right counter bawwwww)>>750904591>Nintendogs would be king of the genre if that was true.No one gives a shit about dog shows and obstacles courses for dogs
>>750904671>Please explain how Pokemon's combat is goodTurn based strategic combat with many mechanics that can influence how a fight can go. Even the format with singles vs doubles matters a lot. And even if you try to downplay, you're still batting for Palworld's actionsloppa.
>>750905451Except the mechanics don't influence the combat at all. It's just one shotting the enemy pokemon or abusing entry hazards and weather being OP with stall teams.The game has no mechanical depth and thus cannot have an interesting competitive scene. You can see this is the case because almost every single 'competitive' pokemon tournament is just people using the same 2-3 teams.
>>750868087is that a fucking tibetan fox monster lmao
>>750905068cute beans
>>750905618>Except the mechanics don't influence the combat at all.This is the dumbest post on the board right now.>You can see this is the case because almost every single 'competitive' pokemon tournament is just people using the same 2-3 teams.It is common in competitive environments for people to use the best tools to win. Obviously.You are a larping retard that doesn't know what he's talking about.
ball designs in the game
The niggers dissing on competitive pokemon are retarded, but it barely matters because for all the depth of its combat system the actual out-of-the-box singleplayer part of the game does not use it at all, therefore 99% of players will not experience it at all. If we consider only what the canon games without any modding or fangames offer, then Pokemon games are straight up inferior compared to their newer competitors.
>>750905896and season 5 balls
>>750905878Anon, you're telling me that in a game with over a thousand monsters, only like a dozen of them being usable makes for a good competitive scene?
>>750906024Competitive pokemon sucks dude, you don't need to samefag to try and support yourself.
>>750904797Yeah it's pretty fucking cool with the season themes, the last season was cosmic themed with a new "Legendary", new mons and new moves for pvp, I've been following this game for a while, it's still crazy how it's finally coming Globalhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPiKSWiJK9ohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpEoFUeGCJ0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsbyrHBON_whttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KL-qjWV6stUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SG8a76LJRwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3lZ2RHbycs
>>750906137I played it back in gens 6 and 7 and disagree. It's not as great as it could've been, but it's completely unique compared to other strategy games and offers a huge variety of paths to victory.
>>750906331What are you even talking about? There is nothing unique about the absurdly shallow RPG combat? There are like two, maybe three strategies in total. Stall, one shotting the enemy pokemon over and over again, and weather, which is also just stall usually.
>>750906024>but it barely matters because for all the depth of its combat system the actual out-of-the-box singleplayer part of the game does not use it at allExcept there is difficult challenges in the games like the Towers and Frontiers for those, and recent games have had some hard bosses in the DLCs as well.
>>750906062You talk like you're underaged. In a competitive scene one thing will inevitably be better than another.
>>750859630Juggling Wind and Waves, Roco Kingdom, and Aniimo next year will be entertaining. I'm currently in the beta and Roco Kingdom won me over So I'll be there on release.
>>750906331>unique compared to other strategy games and offers a huge variety of paths to victory.yknow what else does that? yugioh and way better too, pokemon relies too much on boosting stats than strat the only thing i think can be true is nature like brash or timid anything else is just straight stat increase, its not really complicated if japanese weren't big pussys, they could just make a generic online jrpg on rpgm and sell it and it wouldn't be so different to pokemons comp scene.
>>750906331yeah but that was back in gen 6/7, 8 and 9 meta is so fucking ass it's unreal, dynamax killed comp in gen 8 and tera did the same in gen 9
>>750906546You're just saying a bunch of vague shit. Do you criticize fighting games for the only strategies being hitting and blocking too?
>>750906546Yeah, you've never played it and are making objectively wrong shit up. Good job outing yourself.>>750906583Tower/Frontier is just "make a team that's least vulnerable to RNG and keep grinding until you have a sufficiently long streak". There's no strategy involved because the AI opponents themselves do not use any strategy.
>>750904895Yeah, I've tried it, I liked it a good bit, I'd have to give it a 7/10 currently, as for Open Worlds I'd go Roco Kingdom > Palworld > Aniimo > Pokemon SV
>>750859630Whatever is that one on the bottom right looks like it shouldnt be there
>>750859630Just got my email for the top left, definetly gonna play the full release
>>750907556ToT, there's a NPC for everyone in Roco Kingdom
>>750907142>>750907181wow nta but you guys fucking suck at trying to convince people that pokemon is some CoMpliCaTed pvp game when you guys can't even list anything besides STATS that make it any different from your generic rpgm game, better yet i even porn jrpg games have a better understanding of what makes a rpg compalso fighting games rely heavily on iframe data and frame data DONT SPEAK ON ANYTHING you know NOTHING ABOUT considering fighting games actually have you think outside the box for a strategy instead of mindlessly using moves that only increase your stats also the fact you have all the time in the world to think it over, in fighting you literally cant cause one the round starts your pretty in deadlock in your mind having come up with a strategies midmatch, you actually have to make gambles on overhead moves rng moves, and fucking keep zoners from absolutely buttfucking you, pokefags have absolute no understanding of a fighting game.
>>750904618Cutehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egtX6vOGUCI
>>750907898Are you illiterate, I was obviously being sarcastic when I brought up fighting games. What is wrong with you idiots?
>>750907556So many bratty wizards
>>750908319sarcastic? im calling you out for using it as comparison considering they are completely in their own different leaguesyou could've just compared pokemon to uno or blackjack, cause those are overthinking games just like pokemon
does roco have sexmons?
>>750907605SOUL
>>750887142I prefer this version
>>750907898bodied those poketards
>>750859630When the fanbase is so starved even low quality and effort jank seems good.
>>750908591Yes, but they're more animalistic than other creature collectors
>>750909327which games are you even talking about
>>750909327enough about pokemon though considering you love your textures png'd
>>750908591
>>750909641all rapemeat
>>750909641SEXO all of them
>>750863087Roco Kingdom's got 5 lines of bunny monsters that I'm aware of:>ice bunny that evolves into a little girl wearing bunny pajamas, then a little girl with a bunny plush that mega evolves into a bunny again seen here >>750865079>fire healing bun seen here >>750861267>earth type goober rabbit with big buck teeth>space rabbit with big hips and a branching evolution path to get an "spooky evil" version seen here >>750879016>grass bun, seen in pic related and here >>750863446>>750865410gotta get a fruit for it, pretty sure it was from one of the wisdom trees but I don't recall which one
>>750909854Oh yeah forgot about her, Pure Sex
I'll wait for something that isn't Pokemon, a shitty mobile game, or an ARK clone.
>>750907181>>750907142I'm 'outing myself' as someone who doesn't care about competitive pokemon because that's like saying competitive tic tac toe or connect 4 is interesting.The games are shallow and devoid of any sort of strategy, the same handful of mons are always used in these so-called competitive environments, which means the game is bad because it is effectively solved.
>>750859630Are the two on the right daily login gacha?
>>750910018Roco Kingdom really is Bun Heaven
>>750909641That witch cat does things to me
>>750910504Jesus the hips on that gray rabbit
>pokemon lost in the sex department lol wtf
I'm surprised how good the voice acting is in Roco Kingdom, both the English and Japanese dub
>>750909641Bunny and cat look great. Definitely would the bunny cunny
>>750910504Wee lad
>>750910814and not just in the fanart
>>750911882SPACE BUN SEXX
>>750909854literally the sole reason i'm even considering playing this gamethat is a sex design
>>750908340
>>750909641>>750909854Love the waifu mons in this game so far
>>750912290CUTE
>>750910446Do you have any tournament wins?
>>750872621Dogshit game total waste of money especially the DLC. You know something aint right when your game gets more interesting the moment 2 of the main characters leave the focus of it.
>>750859630Which one has actual panties I can see female characters wearing when I look up their skirts?
>>750913193Any of the Digimon Cyber Sleuth games. I’m straight so I play as the male character though.
>>750913193roco has girl clothes and skirts
>>750904243im on it all night, never have to wait for a match
>>750910343Ark is lowkey the best game ever made. Only reason I’m not constantly playing it is because there’s no feasible way to play offline multiplayer without investing in the hardware to host your own server or paying $200 bucks a year or some insane shit to Nitrado.
>>750913627no real panties tho
As usual these threads deviate into "BUT POKEMON" because you are incapable of talking about your games without seething about Pokemon, so allow me to weight inPokemon has way better designs than its competition, this is not just a coincidence or anything they have some real dogshit designs in the Teraleaks and others that they have come around to rework and use (they have done this for years) they do considerable amounts of research when designing a new creature and work out how they would function in the world they designed (which they tend to do first), whenever I look at these games most of the stuff I see is furry bait or generic looking fantasy creatures, I wont get into the core gameplay aspect itself, ive played Palworld at the very least and thats no Pokemon game that much I know>B-but Pokemon also has furriesIndeed, but they arent the majority of the regional dex, they are 1-2 offsets at best. I think the hardest part of these creatures from other games is that they hinge too much on generic fantasy worlds, Digimon is at the very least consistent with this ill admit, despite not really attempting to aim for the Pokemon appeal and doing its own thing which is exactly what you'd expect from a competitorThe competition trying to chase Pokemon's appeal does not understand Pokemon
>palworldThat game is dying just like /v/.
>>750913849Why bother posting that essay in this board? This board is dying because Anons are retarded.
>>750913874>people play singleplayer game>people finish single player game>people say "that was fun" and move on>singleplayer game's player numbers naturally drop>tardanon: "NURF DIS MEAN DAT GAEM IS BAD!!!"
>>750913874I would play the shit out of Palworld except for one thing, all the pals look like shit. I’ve never seen one of those pals and been like holy shit that is a sick monster I want to catch one and go kill shit with it.They’re all weird dogs covered in streamers or little flower girls with flesh dresses and stupid shit like that.Where are the Tyranitars and Greymons and Blue-Eyes and the rule of cool monsters? Fuck these bedroom eyes furshit abominations. Never playing that. Let it die.
I just want Pokemon games to get better. So I stopped buying Pokemon. Is it that hard to understand?
What happens if you use a sparkling pod on an umbral aniimo? will it lose umbral or become umbral sparkling? I've never seen an umbral sparkling so I'm assuming it's gonna just be wasted
>>750914115this is economic terrorism
>>750914115Who are you talking to? I don't care.
>>750914021is the literal flaming dinosaur good enough?
>>750913847I doubt any monster collector where your OC has panties; maybe god eater, but that's a stretch
>>750914021>Big masculine dragonMoldron? Blazamut? Bastegor? Shaolong? Aegidron? Astegon?
>>750914115XY was an okay step into the world of 3D Pokemon, it was the best online interactivity has ever been. I went cold turkey after being a lifelong fan when Sun/Moon came out. Absolute diarrhea downgrade in every conceivable way. I even held out a bit of hope for Sword/Shield, the first console Pokemon game after skipping the entirety of Gen VII, and then dexit happened.Never bought another nintendslop product ever again. The took my lifelong hobby and raped it outback like the joker. Fuck anyone spending money on NuPokemon.
>>750914240Hell yeah Moldron.
>>750914240>>750914371MOLDRON MENTIONED
>>750914240That looks kind of cool I guess, like a really really mid Pokemon. Pokemon has the same problem as Palworld nowadays, it’s 75% furshit. >>750914276I’m not looking all that up if you want to shill your game post some cool designs ffs.
>>750859630Test
>>750913938Im passionate about monster games, just wanted to give my two cents and get discussion going
>>750913874and /vp/ is dying faster than both
I can't take anyone seriously who defends Pokemon designs after Gen 9.
>>750914602*7my bad, also forgot pic
>>750914515did the dlcs add anything to do at endgame? it felt like the mega mode or whatever ng+ was the only thing to do
>>750914602Gen 9 has cool designs
>>750914515Have you played Monster Sanctuary, nigger? As a former Pokemon fan that’s been on the hunt for good pokelikes my whole life, Monster Sanctuary might be my favorite.Idk the Cyber Sleuth series is really fucking good too.Nexomon is alright but not as good as Digimon or Monster Sanctuary.
>>750914740That's rancid dogshit though.
>>750914343For me it was the "lolwutz virtual console? Making a bunch of stuff only available through a constant subscription is way cooler *frantically breaks out into a stupid tiktok dance*" factor of S1, and doubling down with S2But I absolutely agree about sm and swsh, although for me it really started in gen 5>>750914674Decidueye is easily the coolest of those 3, and it's still not that great
>>750914740wtf am I looking at? blocks? stupidest thing I’ve ever seen, I’d rather raise a Jynx or some shitmon like that before that block thing
>>750913849>they aren't the majority of the dexmodern pkmn says otherwisealso are you saying this out of biasness cause very time a digimon fan ever had anything to say about either monster tamers they were either biased as hell while ass sucking to pokemon, if you really wanted to make a point you can list the ups and downs unlike anon here->>>750904591 who's just ass kissing pokemon stealthy but that can just be his personal opinion, so it doesn't matter.
>>750914719I will say this with all sincerety, do not buy the DLCs like I did, it is a complete waste of money. They add more Omegamon, Bancho (worthwhile if you want something different for Stingmon and Lillymon) and the X-Antibody forms are toggable. The entire DLC is just loredump that serves to fill the gaps that the game didnt tell you of the story, but the main villain Parallelmon is just a generic threat that repeats the same ad nauseum phrases, the DLC is post-game but its also easier than the main game imo, you just walk through several corridors until you meet Parallelmon and beat him, do this 3 times.Thats the DLC. I would not give it money if I knew any better.
>>750914021The problem here is /v/ only posts about the handful of pals they want to fuck because furries are not longer a shunned race. There's a lot that are cool but rarely get posted, or if they are then it's just posting their ass like eidrolon.
>>750914896meant to say, every time.
>>750914926It's crazy how much cooler ad alien looking Xenogard is than Xenolord.Nigga looks like one of them really good digimon designs.I get why, Xenolord has the whole dichotomy with Jetragon, but still.
>>750914894He's a salt monsterSort of the regional equivalent of geodude except there are no caves in the gameThe first evo is pretty cool but the second one just looks like the minecraft pig and the third one has an odd weight distribution though I still think it's ok
>>750914829You have terrible taste.>>750914894Its a golem made of salt piles, really fun onegranted im a little bias towards objectmons
>>750914021>Where are the Tyranitars and Greymons and Blue-Eyes and the rule of cool monsters?Play Aniimo.
>>750914602I like these two.
>>750915019Not only that but xenolord is a fucking midget. wtf were they thinking
>>750915109looks like imvu but if it had baby with genshin impact and overwatch.
>>750914904Shame. I hoped we would have some repeatable dungeons or something with increasing difficulty to use my mons at, instead of NG+. IIRC, there were not even really any secret bosses.
>>750915109Infergon is such a nice design, same for Magmarex
>>750914830For me it started with ORAS because I already thought XY was a bit mediocre and barebones but gave it a pass because it was “the first 3D game” (a lot of annoying unskippable cutscenes too).But ORAS didn’t improve on the formula XY established at all, it was just literally XY but Hoenn skin, and ORAS was worse than Emerald imo (apart from having all modern pokemon and moves and online……) in that they mangled a lot of the region. Mauville was always my hub when playing in Hoenn and they turned it into the shittiest, ugliest, gayest “city” of all time where every time you exit the small screen of buildings, there’s a fade to black transition that takes like 2 Mississippi’s so trying to get through that area if you just need to pass through is a nightmare when in the old games you just zipped through on a fucking bike, no loadscreens or animations like what the fuck, I’m still mad. >Battle Fronteier project has started But ORAS was still ok and a fine addition to the series (reiterating how good online functionality was in gen VI).But then Alola came out and I made it to the fire trial where you just have to answer yes no questions>Is there a silly guy on the screen?>*Silly guy pops up*>Yes?>yay you win *marowaks start dancing*Shut it off right there and never played Pokemon again. :(
>>750915093>I'm biased towards ugly pokemonI can tell.
>>750914926Ok that guy right there is pretty fucking rad. That fat fire dinosaur with the huge shins sucks.
>>750915284I get the feeling you prefer the more animalistic Pokemon, thats fair, Dodonzo then?
>>750915251For me, I got suckered into x because dragon charizard, but I didn't even bother with the meta play after a few hours, ot just felt so soulless and boring
>>750915213I have a green radioactive godzilla looking Magmarex and I wouldn't trade it for the world, it looks so sick too bad he only comes into battle to break the entire gauge in one punch usually
>>750914602i think gen 9 has a bunch of pretty kino designs, even if some of them are assthe gen that is actually impossible to defend is gen 8, it has like 3-5 good designs and they aren't even like good good they're just neat
>>750915440Mega Pokemon were awesome. That was a big thing about the series for me that got forgotten, I thought back in the day eventually every pokemon would get a mega. Like we’d get a dozen megas or so each gen that would come out alongside regular Dexmon and legendaries, then the mechanic was just scrapped all together……….. the “giganto” pokemon was the stupidest shit if all fucking time, granted I never played those pieces of garbage
>>750915427Dondozo is really cool but in the pokemon ecology book they showed art of its tongue being shaped exactly like a sushi table with the legs and everything and I wish I didn't see that
>>750915486All ruin ones are great, Gen 8 is definitely a low point in designs but I love Runerigus
question for the pokemon fans here, why is your fandom filled with people who are extremely inept and lacking in actually using their brain and eyes to distinguish something as different
>>750915564Terrible gimmick but I prefer some of those designs to the Mega ones, Blastoise is one of them
>>750915643Kinda petty but I really hate that this thing a literal rock being haunted by a ghost was rock/ghost and not ground/ghost
>>750915845Wait. I meant the other way around. Why the fuck is it ground/ghost
>>750915845I dont get it either, and to boot thats one of the dual type combinations we are missing, what could possibly be Rock/Ghost if not that?
>>750915787I never played Palworld but that game really fucking broke them, they came out swinging instantly against Aniimo when it launched, calling it another ripoff without checking if any of its designs were referential at all.
>>750915787It's an autism daycare. A lot of the people that like it are manchildren that never grew up (including myself but in a different way). For many of them it's basically their "safe space" and treat it with the sanctity of god, getting ass ravaged when someone criticizes the series and wish it were better, and they don't even play other games to see what it could be.
>>750915795I guess m-Blastoise is mid (looks better in game) and that Blastoise you posted is kind of cool but the problem with the giant pokemon is that they’re giant. That’s stupid. So any kid has access to these WMDs they can turn their Weedle or Pikachu 500-feet tall and can wipe out a city? it’s so fucking stupid and ruins the lore of Pokemon, megas were just cool and optional “super saiyan” forms some Pokemon got, big max Pokemon are just ill conceived and gay
>>750914926Silvegis is cool, too bad he's not that strong besides his passive.
>>750915427It's merely okay, the food theme is gross and ruins it. I agree with >>750915581 that this shit is overwrought to hell.
>>750915486Gen 9 is 90% dogshit. cherrypicking a legendary you get in the post-game kinda misses the point because it's something you barely interact with in your playthrough. Like if Gen 1 had been made up only of Gen 4, Gen 8, and Gen 9 designs it'd still suck ass even if Mewtwo and Mew popped up in the post-game.
>>750915581So what does it do…? Lure unsuspecting sushi patrons to their doom like an angler fish…?
>>750916315The idea of Gigantamax is pretty good though, giant Kaijus duking it out is cool, the problem was the gimmick itself being complete dogshit and being exclusively Gen 1 and 8 Pokemon, and scrapping Nidoking.>>750916494The Ruined Quartet is not post-game, you can get them before you even get a single gym badge.
>>750915787Pal designs trigger subconscious inferiority complexes in diehard Pokemon autists. Their beloved designs are inherently, intentionally flawed.See Cinderace's tiny baby hands, Meowscarada's ugly sausage fingers and freaky nails. They almost had something good and at the last minute decided "let's downgrade the design". This has been happening since at least Gen 4.These designs have ugliness intentionally introduced. Dupin doesn't have any such flaws. Dupin is an example of an appealing design, meant to be appealing, by someone who knows what is appealing.The Pokemon autist, like a neglected child watching a functional family from the outside, feels attacked and offended by this approach. It lashes out in nonsensical ways, because any demonstrably better creature collector is an insult to their identity.
>>750916552Senpai stop proving yourself to be deeply, deeply autistic by missing my point with technicalities.
>>750916552>The idea of Gigantamax is pretty good thoughNo it’s not. Maybe as a one off boss or some shit. Any pokemon being able to turn 500 feet tall is fucking retarded. Period.
>>750916512Yeah kinda. It has a symbiotic relationship with tatsugiri to attract prey.
>>750916331>Silvegis is coolSilvegis is cool. Also makes you fucking immortal.>>750916552>NidokingI fucking love Nidoking. I love all the Nidos, really.Is there a G Rhydon?
>>750916707Retarded,
>>750916401>>750916512Dondozo has a parasitic relationship with Tatsugiri, Pokemon that look like Sushi, they lodge themselves in the tongue and take command of Dondozo's actions and make him stronger, its a ratatouille kind of gimmick
>>750916795Gross and retarded.
>>750916685What were they thinking with this gimmick?>What if one your pokemon turned... big?
>>750916904>What if your pokemon had a hat?Who knows
>>750916849Its worse in real life, parasites are all kinds of creatively gross creatures.
>>750916795Yeah sounds kind of cool I guess but that time has passed who cares the games that dumb fish is featured in are dogshit. The cool thing about Pokemon back in the day was the games were good and the designs were charming, but now especially with legacy support having been dead for years/locked behind a third party paywall I have no desire to try to obtain or use this stupid fucking fish and pay $59.99 a month or whatever for your online pokestorage collection …
>>750917015Oh the issue for me isn't parasitism, it's the flagrant and forced objectmon shit. Its tongue being a table is retarded, the other fish being literal sushi is gross and retarded.
>>750917071meh, the tongue is retarded but I dont see an issue with Tatsugiri being sushi, it genuinely looks and pretends to be dead food to lure prey
>>750917345Because it's highly specific human engineered food. It's like if you had a cow that looked like a literal cheeseburger.
>>750917423I HATE foodmon.
>>750917454Same.
>>750917454
>>750859630monster farm?
>>750917423still a good design, but Veluza is a better execution of that without being on the nose
Roco looks cute and I enjoy how the character models feel reminiscent of Flyff. How is the customization and clothing?
>>750916712Silvegis...
Starting to feel sad for the Pokemon fandom, because they seem to be rather lonely at the top, just lashing out at all of the peasants outside of their golden castle that are enjoying a renaissance of monster collector games
>>750914276>>750915109No point in appealing to this retard if he already made up his dumb, pathetic mind
>>750918425>peasants that are now way better off than the kingThat's called something else
>>750917586Cancer.
>Aniimo>Rocco SifreddimonQRD on these games? Are they mobile games or real games or what?
>>750917586These designs at least stick to two main colors, whereas the nu-mons are overdesigned clown vomit that hurts the eyes.
>>750862038This is because Gamefreak is genuinely retarded and thinks every major gimmick in a game should be exclusive to THAT game, now and forever, so "every game has its timeless value". I am not shitting you. This is the mindset they have. They genuinely thought bringing back following Pokemon would somehow devalue and make HGSS worthless.
>>750917569Sex Cat
>>750918537They're real games that you could optionally use a phone with for a drastically worse experience.Aniimo is Genshin but freer and with worse story, original designs. Suspicious Chinese anticheat.Roco is Pokemon but bigger, more interactive and cuter, original designs. Suspicious Chinese anticheat (from the people who've made the most severe cases of that).Palworld is Ark with a legally distinct Pokemon skin. No suspicious Chinese anticheat.
>>750918537Real Games that have a Mobile version, Same like Pokemon Champions
>>750914021>Where are the Tyranitars and Greymons and Blue-Eyes and the rule of cool monsters?You really didn't look very hard.
Pour one out for spectrobes
>>750918996He is a poketard that wants to start shit.
temtem crawled so all these guys could walk and run
>>750918996He didnt mean it literally you know? Does Palworld have one single unique design?
>>750914602You've got a point, but at the same time I like my pink thing with a big hammer
>>750859630>pokeshitWhats that phoneslop doing here?
>>750919021How does he wipe after pooping
>>750919278That's your job
>>750859630>WE'RE REVIVING THE ENTIRE MONSTER COLLECTOR GENRE ALL AT ONCEBullshit.They are all shallow Pokemon sidegrades.I want spreadsheet autism that I know Nintendo will never deliver, yet all of the clones went for the low hanging fruit and became same shit with different color.
>>750916331>Silvegis is cool, too bad he's not that strongSilvegis isn't intended to be a fighter - it's a walking wall you hide behind while YOU do all the damage, designed specifically for parties that are focused on buffing the player character rather than ones that rely on Pals to do all the work.
>>750919512I think the worst part is that they DIDNT become the same shit, Pokemon still has the niche of having a setting in the real world with Pokemon that fit the world around said locations, its what makes it so good, these are all high fantasy setting clones with no purpose or goal to their designs
>>750919512Pokemon is a Pokemon sidegrade lmfao
>There are people that are still defending Pokeshit after all the garbageLMFAO Pokefags are below Sonicfaggots at this point
>>750920004>>Pokemon still has the niche of having a setting in the real world with Pokemon that fit the world around said locationsThe keychain, the bridge, or the cellphone?
>>750919173You mean excluding that one? Neither Tyranitar, Greymon, nor BEWD look anything like that. It's a cool, generic kaiju. Palworld has lots of unique designs, if you'd actually bother to look for them.
>>750918442>>750919034Embarrassing behavior.
>>750920110Spam that 10 more times.
>>750920110Do you want to know why?Pokemon at worst is still among the best the genre has to offer.
>>750920110And they will start shit like >>750914021 until the end of time.
>>750920154All of themThe Keychain is a fairy that steals keys from people, fairies are known to be mischievousThe bridge literally does not exist in the wild, it requires the pre-evolution to be coated in a special alloy.The Cellphone is not a Pokemon, it has a Pokemon that possesses devices in it.
>>750865640The side quests can get fucking weird though, like the one for the Salabasks where they introduce that they all have a symbiotic Aniimo called a Mireling including yours that you can't catch. Like absolutely nothing states or shows this off except the quest itself, not even the anilog.
>>750920292>And they will start shitWhat does the very first reply to the thread say?
Roco Kingdom, Aniimo and Palworld Won
>>750920802Fpbp
>>750917586Roco Kingdom's got a line of ice cream monsters too, though at least they're a little more interesting by having variations based on flavor
>>750920921But thats an Icicle with snow on top, not an ice cream. The one that's actual food is Alcreamie which has the same exact gimmick as the monster you postedI would even say it has way too many forms to boot
>>750920110Pokefags will support anything
>>750921186oh man I completely forgot alcremie existed
>>750920921Cute
>>750920316A good explanation, admittedly, but Pokeming (I fatfingered that, but I'm keeping it lul) is also a high fantasy setting without much depth.If the setting were realistic, it would make Palworld look tame.
