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Bros...
I think it might save Wilds... It looks... GOOD?
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>Still no Zinogre trailer

Even Pokémon with the much-lauded Dexcut was never idiotic enough to leave Lucario out of their games.

Imagine how sick he'd look with these lightning graphics.
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Capcom using kushala and lao shan in the reveal trailer was so fucking funny. No one likes those fuckers.
Its like they want the dlc to fail
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>>750873027
trashj
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>>750873174
Kushala was great in Rise because he's not fucking flying all the time. He instantly became one of my favourite elders just from that.
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>>750873027
fuck off, it doesn't
it's still the same garbage base with another gimmick that double down on the previous gimmick
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>>750873027
WHERE
IS
HE
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>>750876442
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thank fuck finally an old good new bad thread I needed my daily dose
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>>750873027
Wilds is unsalvageable because of focus mode, even wirebugs didn't make positioning quite as irrelevant.
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>>750873174
I do not understand the kuahala daora hate

I think he's neat and his weapons always look the coolest. Is it mostly gunners whining they have to pick up a real weapon to fight him?
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I heard they'll focus more on that annoying kid.
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I tried the Switch 2 version demo the other night for shits and giggles.
Still the same dogshit game that now looks even worse visually, but surprisingly good framerate. You can even play unlocked which seemingly gives you 60fps if you look at the sky.
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>>750876578
Retarded haters will just make shit up, positioning is still key retard, being able to turn while standing still doesn't fucking detract from that
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>>750876442
>>750876508
>Iceborne never gave us AT Ruiner Nergigante Blanco
Lame
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>>750876409
After basically every non-Nergigante elder in World they had to overcorrect.

The only elder that wasn't complete AIDS on World was fattie and still had bloated HP
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>>750876634
So true sister, with proper positioning you can have the monsties spazzing on the ground 90% of the time instad of only 80% so you can look at more awesome cutscenes with shotajeet
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>>750873174
Everyone is excited to see Lao Shan reimagined nobody thinks it will be like a 20 year old PlayStation game bro
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>>750876695
You mean like a 10 years old Nintendo game.
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>>750876658
Lunastra and Teostra in World are both some of my favorites. They SHOULD be scary to fight, they were in Dos.
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>>750876695
considering how bad they did gravios that's barely any different compared to it's gen 1 counterpart i have no expectation, it's supposed to be an apex monster ffs
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>>750876671
So your problem with focus mode was wounds and not positining then fag
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>>750876836
Gravios' whole gimmick was being a bouncy castle, but after XX he became a joke, Wilds' Gravios is just more of that.
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>>750876969
Gravios was always a joke for LBG users tho.

In MHFU all you needed was rapid fire pierce S and some patience because of bloated health pools.
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>>750873027
Where are the fucking trailers? Sunbreak had steady stream of hype, but they keep tight lipped for Ascendance for some reason. Are they waiting until S2 version release before revealing more?
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>>750876578
The less importance given to positioning the better
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>>750873087
I have zinogre fatigue

Bring Magnamalo instead
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>>750873087
>please bring back the same monster for the 47th time in a rooooow!!!!
>in a game where we already have too many lightning monsters with nothing notable weak to lightning beyond a temporary meme boss in omega and plenty of late game lightning options like lagiacrus
>in a DLC with a lightning elder dragon
never ever.
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Tsukino's gaping anus.
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>>750877647
>anon doesn't want more thunder monster
deploy the fire monsters
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>>750877856
fire monster spam and fire-weakness spam is always an issue in most MH games.
But wilds only has 5~7 fire monsters.
spamming lightning monsters is not the solution either way
>Fire monsters (5, 7 if you include "has some fire attacks" to mean "fire monster")
Nu Udra
Ajarakan
Quematrice
Rathalos
Gravios
Rathian - mostly actually physical
Kut Ku - same again

>Water monsters (3)
Uth Duna
Balahara
Mizutsune

>Lightning Monsters (3)
Rey Dau
Fulgur Anjanath
Lagiacrus
+1 for DLC snake so far.
>Ice (3, one of which is a special event monster and barely counts because of that)
Jin Dahaad
Blangonga
Hirabami

We need ice, water and lightning AND dragon monsters, for sure. But before you spam out elementals look at WEAKNESSES

Weak to Fire: 9
Weak to Water: 4, 6 if you include fulgur and jara despite ice being better
Weak to Thunder: 2
Weak to Ice: 3/4 if you include fulgur

There is 2x to 3x more monsters weak to other elements than thunder. Why add more thunder monsters if you never need their weapons?
Also adding more elemental weapons comes with the catch of redundancy.
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>>750876658
What are you talking about you stupid lying nigger, worlds elders were not only good but also the best we've had by far before then.
Kush hate is massively overblown and a total skill issue reaction. Learn to fight flying monsters and learn to stop being hit dumbo, wind res is a skill in the game if you cant.
The rest were all good and leagues above any elder prior.

Rise kush is better than world kush, sure, but at the expense of making kush yet another prototypical ground monster.
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>>750876581
What? no you stupid nigger, gunners are the ones laughing hardest about the complaints. Its melee faggots complaining "hooooow am I supposed to hiiiiit hiiiiim he keep fwying!!!.. nooowwwooo when I gwot cwose he bwew me away agwain"
Meanwhile gunners just keep popping away.
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>>750876613
meanwhile snoytards were playing at 30fps/47fps at launch Graphics/Performance respectively
and 30fps/47fps today after patches lmao
Imagine getting framemogged by a phone that costs 1/2 the price.
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>>750873027
It doesn't look "good". I guess you were still paid couple of rupees for this clickfarm post.
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>>750879412
>Kush hate is massively overblown
Kill yourself. Worst monster ever.
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>>750876578
so now /v/ is claiming
>having to POSITION the same is ruined just because you can turn
>even though this is the SAME POSITION just with angle adjustments
>but at the same time the game you can spiderman in and out of danger at the press of a button doesnt count
lmao I knew it, I FUCKING knew all the retards claiming focus "killed positioning" were yet again lying risefags/genfags
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
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>>750879550
Skill issue is your issue.
Git gud unironically, zoomer faggit.
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>>750879313
water was always one of the least used elements from what I remember. Ice we get now at least Kush. No idea who thought we need fucking khezu of all things when one of the games biggest issue is the sheer amount of early game shitmons while nerfing midgame and even endgame monsters
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>>750879313
There's more shit that's weak to thunder. Balahara, Tuna, Steve, Mizu off the top of my head.
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>>750879550
aww the little kid who cannot play games is mad the elder dragon was too hard for him to fight, cute, look how mad he is!

Kill yourself you pathetic excuse for a hunter.
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>>750879581
rise already allowed a lot of attacks to be adjusted mid combo. What really killed positioning are all the counters and hyper armour moves as you can just ignore the enemy attacks and wait for them to come to you. The only thing risebreak did better in this regard is that you could swap them out on some weapons.
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>>750879412
>Learn to fight flying monsters

I'm sure you have an excellent suggestion for this that isn't just "bring a bowgun" or "wallbang it and kill it before it ever takes off".
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>>750879679
Yeah but thats misleading and dishonest.
Is the monster WEAK to that element or "weak" to it
if the monster has a different element that its more weak to, im not counting it. If the monster isnt really weak to it, 2* or less, im not counting it. No one brings a lightning weapon to a hunt of a monster that takes more damage from raw builds, or say, fire builds.
Mizu is most weak to dragon, for example. Balahara doesnt take enough damage to consider it "weak" to it
if we included every monster with a 1* 'weakness' or more, then the whole roster would be in half the elemental lists each lmao
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Base game
>PS3 graphics
>Every low rank monster dies in 2 hits
>Every low rank monster deals 0 damage
>Unskippable walking segments
>Infinite restocking so it's impossible to die
>Power Clash is literally just a 3 sec cutscene that wastes your time and doesn't do anything
>No cat cooking
>Weather system serves no purpose other than to make the game worse
>Like 95% of set bonuses are useless
>The "endgame" consists of hunting the same apexes because, for whatever reason, Capcom refuses to make every monster 9star tempered
>9 star tempered monsters oneshot you and have more HP than Fatalis so G rank will feel like a cake walk
>The "reward" for killing 9stars is gacha talismans that give you skills (even though we already have too many skills)
>No HR final boss
>Artian system makes 99% of weapons in the game useless (lmao)
>Collaboration is not even a monster but some generic colorless robot
>You can use NPC hunters on monsters but them carting doesn't count so it's literally just cheating
>Underwater combat
>Less monsters than MH2 and 4 in base game
>No MH language
>First flop in franchise's history
Is this the worst game of all time?

G rank
>Created by the director of Exoprimal (game no one ever played)
>Gimmick that makes your weapon useless unless you use it
>Overuse of Elder Dragons
It's over
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>>750879810
>rise already allowed a lot of attacks to be adjusted mid combo
Yep. No one brings this up though. I also think the counter-spam counts, while generations had this with adept, being able to "nope" your way out of damage with an INSTANT counter attack broke positioning. Even a HBG that stands in front of a charging barroth or diablos can just press a button and shrug off the entire charge. Never ever in classic mon hun

>What really killed positioning are all the counters and hyper armour moves as you can just ignore the enemy attacks and wait for them to come to you.
Exactly. I blame the addition of the GS shoulder tackle for starting this, before then parries were hard to pull off mid combo things in the LS or something that always had it like lance. Adept in generations doubled down on this whole "ignore the monster" moveset slop

In a way I think offsets are better than gens adept, rises massive parry spam moves, in that its usually harder to pull off and works only once for free. but, wilds also has waaaaay more hyper armor so you dont need to care + an OP healslut cat.
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>>750879894
Mizu claws take nearly equal damage from dragon and thunder but the head takes slightly more thunder damage. On ele heavy weapons I always use thunder vs mizu
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>>750879581
This, risefags cant tell the difference between
POSITION
and
AIM

wilds lets you aim some hits. SOME, hits.
Your position around the monster is the same as ever, though, unlike rise where you can sit in front of it and press the "hahaha instablock" button
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negative hype for this crap lmao
imagine hyping up fucking KHEZU for a $50 DLC
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>>750880168
khezu is underrated kinomon
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>>750880227
retard
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>>750879846
>hit the tail
>hit the feet
>use terrain height
>jumping attacks
>flashbombs
>wallbangs
>status
>traps
>break its horn and tail
>focus attacks to get staggers and trips to maximise damage
>ranged weapons (yes, if there was a monster you heard gunners saying its too hard to solo gun youd say use a sword, your stubbornness is not my issue)
Every weapon can hit it whilst it flies, nigger. Yes, even dual blades.
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>>750880168
so what youre saying is that this expansion wont sell well? is that what youre saying? just wanna make sure.
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>>750873027
Wildtroons aren’t MH fans lol they’re retarded faggot secondaries who never have any idea what they’re talking about.
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>>750880459
>reeee youre not aktually having fun and enjoying the game, you dont know what youre talking about reeeeeeeeee
thats how you sound bro. kinda unhinged desu.
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>>750880365
Most of these are "just hit it lol" and the rest are just methods to stunlock it. And let me know how it goes next time you try to trap an elder, dummy.
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>>750873027
No the fuck it doesn't, what are you smoking? We're getting the same shitty elders we've always had, with a siege monster no one fucking likes. The areas look fucking tiny as shit with EVEN MORE forced seikret riding bullshit which never needed to exist. The new bracer bullshit looks like capcom learned fucking NOTHING from the criticisms fielded against base Wilds. And now we're getting fucking shills, like you, trying to drum up inorganic hype that no one is reciprocating.

They're fucking desperate to sell the DLC and it is hilariously fucking obvious. Too bad no one is taking the milquetoast bait.
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>>750880459
>projecting
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>>750873027
the expansions usually do, it is their second bite at the apple and gives them a good opportunity to fix the issues with the base game while making all old content relevant again.

they have done this for 20 years.
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>>750873087
Who the fuck gives a shit about Lucario anymore?
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>>750880281
no u heyzeus
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>>750880168
>catastrophically fuck up the base game
>ignore performance issues for a year
>have to salvage it with the expansion
>use lao, kush, teostra and khezu in your trailers
it's either sabotage or they're genuinely fucking retarded beyond any salvation
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>>750880168
>$50 DLC
Why lie on the internet?
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>>750880528
>t-these are just methods to hit the monster
yes, to hit the monster you have to hit the monster. Very good anon!

Git gud
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>>750880168
its $20
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>>750882572
there is no way in hell jewcom will charge 20 dollars for their dlc when they keep calling it a "massive" expansion in their trailers. i'd say 40 or 50
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>>750882629
I’ll be pre ordering the deluxe as always with CapGAWD games.
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>>750882629
What was sunbreak and icebornes cost at launch
it will cost that much.
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>>750882725
$40 each.
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i havent booted up wilds in like 6 months and i felt absolutely nothing watching lao shen and kush again.

is god eater any good? i dont think i can stomach any more wilds.
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>>750883023
u just gonna haveta waitil /v/ finna sloppa genna a brand new clunkgen monhun
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>>750880041
>Wilds has way more hyper armor
I can think of like the shoulder tackle and FRS on SA, maybe CB has some I don’t play that shit. Whenever I see complaints about Wilds movesets it always seems like it’s thinly veiled
>Greatsword expects you to do more than run around weapon sheathed and do a level 3 draw charge when it’s safe
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>>750883178
i doubt thats going to happen. i'll just give god eater a go
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>>750883353
you ever play soul sacrifice? its decent enough
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>>750883243
Offsets are hyper armour with some regen and the special follow up if you have enough build up. This is why they become so shit in endgame as you have to deal with damage and status leaking and stun build up.
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>>750883596
i did a while ago but i really didnt like it. i can give it another go and see if it clicks
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>>750882529
>Fighting this monster is ass because it flies constantly all you can do is swing at its feet and hope you don't get hit by off-camera attacks
>Hurrrr have you tried hitting its feet?
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>>750883714
story/setting was pretty cool at least, general combat and shit was a bit whatever I think, been a full century since I played it after epicnamebro shilled it
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>>750883674
I mean I guess you could look at it that way if you want but I don’t really see offsets as “hyper armor” in the same way because you don’t get any unless you connect with an attack.
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>>750883243
all offsets have H.A.
even the HBG that forces you to crouch takes almost no damage from AT Arkveld crashing into you if you pop an offset blast, even with the increased gunner damage.
Youre blind lmao
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>>750883973
some offsets can be used to negate roars like the hammer ones even without triggering the counter
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>>750883719
>off camera
you control the buttons you press
+
Spacial awareness is a skill you learn

you are brown.
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>>750884075
>>750883243
Here is proof of this
https://youtu.be/KdqeOQbYBuU?si=T2GyXebJ4GNscOmq
Look at the non existent damage after the first offset that guarantees a stagger/counter
on a GUNNER.
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>>750884193
>uses offset on an attack successfully and takes less damage
Yeah no shit that is how offsets work. I think it’s a stretch to call that hyper armor because if it was a projectile or something it wouldn’t work, offset is a separate mechanic.
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>>750881608
I like to believe it's the latter because I still remember the producer of wilds saying the game was selling because of the story
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>>750884548
>I still remember the producer of wilds saying the game was selling because of the story
Funny because he didn't actually ever say that.
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>FU recomp (MHforever)
>3 recomp (OceanTriRecomp)
>3rd HD recomp (Yakumo)
>3U Wii U recomp (Chacha)
>4U recomp (MH4UltimateDC)
>GU recomp (MHGURecomp)

God bros..

We're getting a classic monhun collection for FREE because CAPCOM ARE FUCKING DICKHEADS
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>>750884548
The story in MH Wilds is actually really cool dough. I specially like how fucking based, assertive and in control your hunter is at every moment.
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>>750884719
>no 1 or Dos
lmao
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>>750884480
No, in MH hyper armor has always meant "you may take damage, but you do not get knocked down nor even flinched" and can continue your attacks even after getting hit. Nearly every weapon in Wilds has HA in some form or another, and its just another fucking nail in its coffin for it.
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>>750884963
That seems really dishonest because you talk about “all the hyper armor and counter moves” so you must be counting offsets in both categories. Seems stupid and pedantic.
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>>750885178
You are arguing with a different anon, I am simply telling you what "Hyper armor" is, and what it is not. If you've got a problem with that, thats on you and no one else.
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>>750873027
only poorfags hate Wilds.
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>>750885553
>ummmm you can use this attack for “hyper armor”
>I feel absolutely no need to distinguish between shoulder tackle and FRS hyper armor that works on everything and offsets that have different mechanics entirely because I’m a dishonest faggot

Whatever man
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There will always be old good new bad arguments, and yes Wilds absolutely has its own flaws too, However, I'm convinced that Wilds and World get a lot of its hate from Nintendo fanboys still holding a grudge.
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>>750873027
no it looks stupid and bad
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Do you think pic related would have still happened if Wilds didn't crash down in sales?
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>>750885628
I spend $3000 a month on asian prostitutes, and have a $8000 pc. I still don't like wilds.
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>>750885745
>hurr durr I wanna be right, and I know I am, so im gonna just call him faggot

Must be nice being such a simpleton. I imagine not much bothers you, beyond not having the mental capacity to understand that two things can be true at once and not be mutually exclusive. But I'll leave it to you to figure out.
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>>750873027
Nothing can fix the damage that's caused by GU and onwards. Pretty sure Focus Mode is the Mimic Tear of MH but idk it could be GU's instadodge, it could be World blankets and casualizations, it could be Rise casualizations as well.

Either way, raped franchise. It can only either die or get worse. They can never recreate the magic from the first game up to 4U.
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>>750887325
>Nothing can fix the damage that's caused by GU and onwards
you mean 4u and onward
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>>750886267
No
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>>750887416
based fuck mounting I want to hunt monsters not buckbreak them like a jewish slaveowner
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Charge Blade's new Judgment Cut looks cool
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>>750882146
>>750882725

>>750882572
>>750882629
50 sounds likely with the base game price increase, then again Capcom is probably scared so they don't want to push their luck and go for 40.
Will be funny when they sell the game + dlc for cheaper than the game on release like they did with DD2. So both will possibly cost 60
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I like Rise
sorry...
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>>750879810
Don't forget that Rise introduced rage slash and was pretty much proto focus mode.
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>>750890315
???
You mean the new charged element slash? That's a 1:1 of Glavenus' Spin2win.
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>>750873027
Jump off a bridge ryozo and stop shilling your game here.
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>>750881608
I don't mind either of these monsters. Khezu especially is a great filter for tourists.
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i cant wait to fight khezu once and never fight him again like i did with kut ku, what a fucking waste of slots.
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>>750893204
>Khezu especially is a great filter for tourists
It's Wilds, the devs will do everything in their power to make sure nobody gets filtered by anything in the main story
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>>750873027
None of the footage I've seen has made it look like its going to save wilds
the further zoomerfication of weapons is really not inspiring
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>>750876634
Yes it does. Focus mode let's you redirect moves 180 degrees you otherwise wouldn't be able to hit, and even gives you a range boost on monsters that are normally too far to hit, both are 100% true on GS at least. It dumb downs the game immensely for a series that's difficulty comes from playing around the "clunky" weapons by giving you total control so now monsters can only be buffed with shit like constant AOEs and retarded damage/hp. Player power needs to be lowered for monsters to be able to compete
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The GScuck is at it again I see.
So sad to see what these threads have become, then again this website as a whole is on a total decline
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>>750879550
It really is overblown, I have to be honest. I used to hate kush until I stopped being a retard and just started preparing for it and actually paying attention.
Wind res and a poison weapon eliminates most of its problems, but the main thing really, unironically, is just hitting its head.
Oldgen kush has a ton of openings after attacking where you can hit its head. And it's very susceptible to staggering, toppling and dunking when hit in the head, which all fuck up its dragon wind.
Most of its aerial attacks cannot hit you if you stay under/to the side of it, and you can even dunk it by hitting its tail/legs that hang low enough (I really don't get why most hunters are afraid to do this. Fucking hit flying monster tails! They fall the fuck down!)
Even 4U rusted wasn't that bad with a similar strategy, it just moves a lot more.

I think most monhun players are genuinely just incompetent. Reminder people on this board unironically cried and shat their pants about almudron (slow as fuck monster that literally, constantly throws its best hitzone in your fucking face and hangs it there like for a minute like a piñata)
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>>750892550
Rage Slash was just Brimstone Slash from Generations/GU. It's also significantly weaker than the cartwheel.
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>>750880168
This, what a boring joke of a roster, they could add giginox and other alternative monsters like qurupeco and hypnocatrice but no, it has to be khezu kushala teostra blah blah blah.

Get new material, niggers.
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>>750876578
>even wirebugs didn't make positioning quite as irrelevant
>Play a bit of Rise
>Can jump several meters in any direction with a greatsword
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>>750894013
>None of the footage I've seen has made it look like its going to save wilds
90% of the development on AssDance would've been done before Wilds even came out, when the dev were still convinced everybody would love the base game. In their minds there was nothing to fix, they just had to do more of the same, but now they're faced with the reality that nobody fucking wants more of the same from Wilds.
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>>750873027
>It looks... GOOD?
No anon, it doesn't but thanks for asking, I'll answer your doubts whenever I can, hope that helps.
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>>750873027
I just got a call from Capcom, they said everything is fixed.
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>>750873027
for me, I will wait
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I'm sticking with Sunbreak, thanks.
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>>750873174
this, and also teostra and khezu areok monsters but they are the anti-excitement
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>>750894869
Now you don't even have to move with GS, lol. You can just offset or perfect guard like any attack and then angle your swings with focus mode
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>>750884719
>3 recomp (OceanTriRecomp)
didn't know about this.
>look it up and see that the github page is not in english

>>750884932
if mh1 gets a recomp AND fu levels of "qol" then we are talking. otherwise, leave it in the bin.
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>>750873027
MH is a dead my niggas
first wilds, now a mobile gacha game

capcom must have found their Kotick
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>>750899539
world was the smoking gun. it should have set off alarm bells in your head with the amount of casualization that was done to the franchise with that single release.
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>>750877449
My nigger
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>>750899757
It did, all the zoomoid negroes and casual fans are the ones still playing the new slop and whining that it's bad. All the real fans and people who understood have hated world from the start.
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I will never be satisfied so long as Morudomunto is excluded from real Monster Hunter games
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>>750877449
Why not both?
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>>750884719
Actual recomps or emulator wrappers made for a single game
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>>750873174
>I hate when a wind manipulating dragon manipulates wind to make the fight difficult
People who hate on Kushala Daora specifically for his world incarnation (his best, fight me) are whiny low IQ nigger faggots

Also Lao is a good choice for Ascendance as he stands to benefit from an overhaul possible with a modern game engine. Also I like Lao, fuck you.
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>>750884719
Our #1 priority should be to port every single monster ever into MHGU, so we've got everything in one place. I heard some 4U exclusives like Tigerstripe has already been ported into it, that's crazy.
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What did Capcom mean by this?
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>>750903084
Nah, they're cooking with Nata. He'll be all grown up in the next-next-next game.
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>>750902868
Your bait was almost good, but you got greedy by claiming to like both World Kush AND Lao
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>>750902868
>15 minute kush hunt in the jungle
>He puts one of those eternal tornados in the obligatory area-connecting corridors and switches area
>Can't get past it
>Time out waiting for it to expire
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>>750903501
I’m not baiting. I will enjoy Lao while you all seethe at his inclusion. I will in turn seethe at Kushala being nerfed into a bland fight with no character or challenge in rise and presumably Ascendance.
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>have 1k hours on world
>500 on rise
>100 on wilds
wish I could be excited
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>>750873027
Do we have a list of the monsters in the expansion yet?
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>>750873027
literally NOTHING can save wilds. That shit was dead on arrival and beyond saving before launch.
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>>750873027
>more gps chicken
>le floating islands
Pass
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>>750873087
Is it time for us to finally admit zinogre is furfaggot bait and extremely overrated.
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>>750879581
The quick wirebug option launches you in the direction your hunter is already facing though and is agnostic to the camera.

Opposed to focus mode which perfectly pivots your hunter into position. Yes, focus mode completely kills all aspect of positioning, and wirebugs do not.
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>>750903923
>Araketa
>Gundoraja
>Goopy parasite thing
>Guardian Rathian
>Khezu
>Lao-Shan Lung
>Kushala Daora
>Teostra
That's it so far, plus it's easy enough to extrapolate other shit like Shagaru and Velkhana. It's shaping up to be a truly dogshit roster.
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>>750903974
Capcom be like
>we need to pay more jeets to insist that every other monster hunter game, the ones people actually like, is actually bad
The marketing is almost as bad as the game itself.
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>>750904081
The poochie of Monster Hunter. Whenever he’s not in the game, faggots are asking “where is Zinogre?” Definitely should sit at least two games out
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>>750904390
Yup. I'll stick with all the GOOD games, thanks. (everything up to and including MHGU)
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I hope it's absolute shit because I bought World instead of Wilds and now I gotta finish it
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>>750904390
Please understand, flooding the internet with paid astroturfers is cheaper and easier than actually making a good game
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>>750904448
The actual reason why I hate zinogre is twofold, the first is what I mentioned. He’s a fetish bait monster that somehow gets a pass.

The other one is that he does have a lot of good fights- but every single time it’s always a variant. His base fight is quite literally always mogged by another version.

Other monsters deserve variants over him
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>>750904525
World is still shit, just substantially LESS so. You got lucky if you really bought world by mistake.
>>750904679
well, when you're paying half a dozen(or more) trannies 500 bucks an hour to sit there and get offended, it absolutely WOULD be cheaper.
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>>750904357
Grim
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>>750873027
Play Sunbreak faggot
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>>750904679
The thing is I’m not sure, I feel like whatever they’re paying to advertise is causing negative sales and brand damage.

Take another hyper shilled product right now like WoW Forever. WoW itself is full of version autism where one group will insist other versions of the game are shit and it was only good when X. But despite that, the shilling is generally pretty cohesive
>nostalgia bait
>it’s like the good ole days
>everyone is playing it! Are you going to play it!
>what are you going to play in the new wow forever?
It’s basic ass stuff. Meanwhile anywhere you go with wilds it’s literally always
>these world and rise CHUDS don’t know REAL gameplay
>lao is finally in a game that doesn’t SUCK
>I’m glad there’s no ports of old games

Like where is the message? Think, there’s like no big standard of shilling
>what weapons are you excited about fellow hunters!!!!
>they fixed everything from the base game!
Etc, where the fuck is it?
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>>750904836
>play the second worst game in the entire franchise, with Wilds being the worst outright

fuck off
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>>750894617
Wind resistance and poison does nothing for World Kush though, only his set bonus works, which is the main reason why people hate him. You have to fight him with no counterplay until you've grinded his set.
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>>750883719
Sounds like you hate monster hunter desu
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>>750879412
>Learn to fight flying monsters
The moment they enrage, counterplay goes out the window unless are able to flash. It's a major part of why Alatreon is such a pain in the ass. It takes off while enraged and runs out the clock unless you use smoke + ghillie mantle, and it doesn't always work.
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>>750873027
I honestly felt nothing from this trailer. wilds was just so shit I see no way to redeem it. The seikret auto drive, the focus mode, no cat chefs
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>>750873087
I never cared for Zinogre. He looks silly with the lizard scales and the breakdancing, and his only good piece of gear is his guitar HH
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>/v/ shits all over Wilds
>the best and most polished game so far
>crossplay, gigantic amount of players

Not recommending Wilds is a clear neckbeard, solo only player recommendation. Get Wilds.
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>>750905787
>>the best and most polished game so far
IT PLAYS ITSELF, RETARD. THAT'S NOT A FUCKING GAME. KILL YOURSELF.
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>>750905787
You're not even trying
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>>750905835
Cope
>>750905863
Cope
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>>750905598
I like the Wilds solution of at least giving you slinger ammo to shoot at them, and giving monsters like Rathalos damage thresholds that would knock them down. It's not perfect but at least you aren't just waiting for the monster to decide to land
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>>750905835
>>750905863
Nobody in their right mind would recommend anything before Rise. Polish is real, systems were improved, everything is clearly better. Take off your nostalgia goggles
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>>750906097
>Me:states facts
>You: WAAAAAAH YOU'RE JUST COPING WAAAAAAAAAH

shut the fuck up.
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>>750906217
Cope
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>>750906157
Slit your throat and bleed out in a ditch, you dirty fucking nigger. NOBODY is falling for your bullshit.
>>750906253
> crying nigger noises
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>>750906280
>no argument, just violence

Nah
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>>750906503
lying niggers like you are too fucking retarded and up your own ass for me to waste my breath on. Kill yourself.
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>>750906103
Meanwhile, Rise simply made fliers land more often

Guess which solution people liked more
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>>750906280
>>750906589
Cope bitch
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>>750906775
>WAAAAAAAH HE'S NOT TAKING THE BAIT WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH JANNIES MAKE HIM STOP WAAAAAAAH

fuck outta here, whiny nigger
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Don't care about wilds. This Grank only adds to the issues and solves none. This will be only the second time I ever skip one, right after Sunbreak too.

Monster Hunter is currently a shitshow, next game will be trash too (guaranteed since it'll be the Portable team) and in 3 years I can only pray the sole relevant team reverses course.
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>>750906958
LARP
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>>750906589
Focus mode makes no difference. It's just a tiny aiming adjustment. You even get punished for it. Everything else is the same.
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>>750907073
>lying nigger noises

I aint reading that. kill yourself.
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>>750906998
We don't sign our posts here, retard.
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>>750907121
>>750907192
The gaped
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>>750907207
>WAAAAH JANNIES MAKE HIM STOP WAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
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you are now remembering basegame world had one (1) ice monster, legiana
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I dont like Rise but at least it has its niche as portable gen 5 game. Wilds is pretty bad. Every weapon needs to have a fucking counter and tedious resource management, those fuckers couldnt stop adding more timers to weapons and now with Ascendance they added more timers.
Not to mention boring ass roster, endgame and fight design. Also fuck that brown kid.
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>>750907371
Makes sense.
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>>750907121
You might as well cover your ears and yell to not hear the truth
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They're showing us the most boring monsters so that they can keep all the best monsters a secret you retards. They're going to surprise us. They don't need to market their DLC when anyone who has played Wilds is already going to be getting it, so they have no reason to sell it with its trailer. Wilds is going to be the greatest expansion in the series with top tier monsters back to back, they just don't want to spoil it in the trailers
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>>750907730
Based + true
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>>750907529
You niggers are too stupid to reason with. Fuck outta my face.
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>>750906958
>guaranteed since it'll be the Portable team
anon I....
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>>750907371
wasn't the only water monster the shitfish? World basegame roster has to be one of the worst that that ever existed.
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>>750873027
>more jeet NPC
Nah nigga fuck off with that deiware
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>>750908018
jyuratodus and the mud lizard with the bigass fivehead iirc
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>>750907970
What, got some good news to share? Did the team whose last good game was MHP3rd fuck off and die and we won't witness another zoomerfaggot entry?
Well if the main team also stops doing that, I mean. Like I said the franchise is currently trash either way.
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>>750873027
I seriously doubt they will fix the game as Dark Arisen fixed DD2
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>>750885823
you gotta stop letting nintendo and nintendofags live rent free in your head
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>>750873027
As long as they don't keep the boring artian weapon grind end game, then it could only get better.
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>>750908214
get ready for frontier G to return somehow.
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I played world today and can confirm its still fun.
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>>750906751
Rise also just let you rise up
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>>750909150
Which you weren't doing for half the weapons after low rank. You were saving those bugs for much stronger moves.
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>>750909490
you can play however you want to play
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>>750909635
My point being you didn't need the wirebug to see how much better Rise handled the fliers
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why is it called rise if they grounded the flyers
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>>750884719
>eng only
into the garbage
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>>750905056
>Sunbreak worse than the entirety of gen 1 and gen 2
>Sunbreak worse than Tri
>Sunbreak worse than 4
>Sunbreak worse than Generations
>Sunbreak worse than base Rise and base World
Sunbreak worse than Outlanders
Lmao.
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MH discussion is so fucking gay
Everyone is an annoying as fuck doomsissy that LARPs as oldgen boomers proudly announcing they will never buy the next mainline MH (then they buy it anyway and start doomcrying again)
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>>750910680
Yes, dungbreak was worse than all of those, now fuck off and die, poserfag.
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>>750910902
>then they buy it anyway
Quit projecting you subhuman nigger.

NONE OF US BOUGHT IT BECAUSE WE ACTUALLY HAVE FUCKING STANDARDS.
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>>750910995
You bought it. You'll buy it. Stop your faggot LARP.
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>>750873027
it looks more like a spectacle fighter than a traditional monster hunter game. which makes sense considering who newgen monhun is made for. the normalfag audience.
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>>750911016
Nope. We didn't buy it,BECAUSE WE HAVE STANDARDS. Now kill yourself, nigger.
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>>750873027
>delayed it to 2027 because scared of GTA VI
I sleep
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>>750910902
I hate monster hunter discussion on this website for this very reason. The "people" here are either posting porn or shit flinging. There is very little discussion of substance here like monster/weapon designs and mechanics.
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>>750910995
nta but…
>every single day a new MH Wilds with faggot(s?) crying and yelling and shouting and seething trying to convince others that wilds is a bad game(its not) until threads reaches bump limit, over and over and over and over….
I dunno how you niggers have to fortitude to go being this miserable. you should just kill yourself, think about it man.
how will you go once the expansion is released? are you really strong enough to endure two more years (at least and minimum) of seething? just be at peace and end it once and for all bro. rest now, you deserve it.
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>>750912120
You've been having a melty all day, spergoid
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>>750912120
it IS a bad game, now fuck off.
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>>750911893
No shit, the latest game is nearly two years old now and nobody liked it. If it had been good then maybe the kind of discussion you want would still be happening, but that's not the reality we live in.
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>>750912120
And I've not bought a single game since I made the mistake of picking up rise. I got a refund on THAT trash. It's on the shitlist with pokemon, which I haven't supported since Sun and Moon.
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>>750912306
LARP
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>>750912391
Halloween's over lil bro, take off the costume
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>>750912445
You're talking to a mirror, retard. Now grab a knife and fucking get slicing.
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>>750912445
you're the one with clown costume on.
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>>750912531
Thank you.
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Ah yes, meet potential DLC.
Lolno
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>>750912758
You've been crying all day. Now cry some more, crybaby.
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>>750912908
>>750912693
Cringe
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>>750912120
>I dunno how you niggers have to fortitude to go being this miserable
On the contrary, I thoroughly enjoy flinging shit at this godawful game to make life just a little bit harder for shills like you. It's fun watching you dancing monkeys desperately try to keep up the doomed narrative that Wilds is actually good, is selling well, and is only hated on /v/, as if nobody here has access to the rest of the internet to see what's actually going on.
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>>750873027
Did they make the food look good yet? You have no idea how important that is to me.
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>>750913239
Stop pretending. You already preordered Ascendance.
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>>750912294
>>750911893
World took the soul of the series out back and shot it to drag it's corpse out to sell to redditors and casuals. Are you surprised you only get faggots talking about the new games? If you prefer the new games you are the same kind of parasitic nigger as the people that prefer any of the recent shitty reboots to original classics.
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>>750873027
not unless they remove this jeet from the story
that's what made me not buy Wilds in the first place
it was the 1st monster hunter game I didn't buy and I played every single one since the first game
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>>750873027
Tsujimoto needs to sunset
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>>750913350
He's the main focus of the DLC, actually.
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>>750913362
Embarrassing post
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>>750913341
Exactly.
>>750913239
Bingo. Only disingenuous niggers try to pretend that it's anything other than absolute dogshit.
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Can I play it on my ancient videocard yet?
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>>750913376
ok then kek
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>>750913440
You're very likely a seething third worlder.
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>>750913598
Your izzat is in the negatives. You should stop now before the collectors show up.
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>>750873087
Why the fuck do MH players want the same reheated slop over and over and over again? Someone explain this mental illness to me. If you had any standards you'd demand an entirely new roster for every MH game.
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>>750913712
the rage bait is strong with this one
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I played Wilds a lot in the beginning but now the game is constantly crashing.
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>>750913863
my friend, you cant rage bait a rage baiter
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>>750913915
rage rod OP
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>>750914237
:D
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>>750873027
They remove 360 pivoting and wounds?
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How embarrassing
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>>750914372
No but they added turbo speed mode with additional bullshit moves for all weapons
That's what you wanted right?
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if you're in this thread, you're going to buy ascendance day one just so you can bitch and bitch and bitch more efficiently.

capcom has nothing to worry about. outlanders already made 3 million dollars from their cattle btw.
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>>750914565
Yeah actually, it is.
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>>750910680
Sunbreak is only better than base Rise and Outlanders in that list.
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>>750873027
https://4chan.org/advertise
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the insect glaive is the most raped weapon in wilds and will be even more raped in ascendance thanks to the new spender that we definitely needed
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>>750914739
wrong, that spot belongs to switch axe
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>>750914572
Wilds’ sales stalled severely; capcom currently shitting pants
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>>750914880
EoS soon lil bro
Capcom selling the MH IP soon lil bro
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>>750914042
How is it op when it ain't catching jack shit?
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>>750914929
capcom lying to analysts during earnings calls -> pants of shittings
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>>750914340
>all the seething and same fagging ended once this nigger was banned
it really is just one mentally ill faggot hating on wilds as much as he hates his dark as a moonless night nigger of a father huh?
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I'm surprised they didn't just kill Nata, but Capcom hasn't cared about their players for at least 10 years.
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>>750914565
i cri
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>>750914837
the switch axe is less raped because it has a working offset/parry and you dont have to frs spam anymore.

the ig is the king of raped weapons.
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Hows the GU recomp? I already have 90 hours on xx in my 3ds but im not sure if its worth doing all the fuckery to pass my save
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>>750915860
capcom wants to appeal to children.
the older player-base is not the target audience.
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>>750916082
>SA offset
giga garbage
>parry
builds up stun + barely reduces damage
you are punished for doing things right as switch axe
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>>750916643
the offset window for the SA is almost as big as the greatsword's and the parry has like a 90% DR, which can be easily made up with arkveld's hunger, which you're most likely running already

it is not even CLOSE to being as raped as the IG, stop larping.
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>>750914572
actually I'm gonna buy Ascendance because the 9/10 star hunts were fun as fuck and hopefully the expansion is just more of that
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>>750876578
The fact there is even 1 negative post to this on /v/ means MH is truly fucking dead.
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>>750914634
base Rise is fucking god awful, posting hot knight women won't make this true
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>>750916643
>giga garbage
It's the second (or third depending on who you ask) best offset in the game
>builds up stun + barely reduces damage
Get stun immunity then, the damage reduction is enormous as well
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>>750916802
I mean nobody uses the SA Offset because it's Axe Mode only and Axe Mode is pretty bad in Wilds
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>>750916956
>Switch Axe should have a skill tax... just because ok???
Why doesn't the LS counter build up stun on the player then?
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>>750917030
the SA offset is very good and you can morph out of it, you really sound like you're a scrub or just making shit up.
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>>750915832
You seem to be confused, it was the screenshot spamming Wilds shill who got banned
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>>750917092
I didn't say the offset is bad, I said overall Axe mode is bad which it is
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professional goalpost mover here
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>>750917068
And which weapon doesn't have a skill tax you retarded fucking nigger?
>Why doesn't the LS counter
Because it's a fucking evasion counter and not a parry you stupid nigger, GS' tackle ALSO builds up stun because you're soaking hits rather than wrapping yourself in i-frames like the LS counter
You're the same subhuman who shitposts about wilds' mechanics over and over and punctually gets them wrong, are you?
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>>750917261
So it's inferior then
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DOOD!
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>Old MH
>Had to spend time gathering and preparing for a fight, made you appreciate what you were using mattered
>Every weapon was clunky, but also unique, and relied on you getting to know its clunk and overcome its clunk to win hunts
>Every monster was unique, and had their own clunk where typically a couple moves were absolute bullshit and you had to learn to avoid their clunk, but there was no shortcut to winning through routine
>World/Wilds
>Removed gathering
>Added more ways to stun/grapple/knock over monsters making the fights the same and routine
>Added more abilities, attacks, parrys, blocks, dodges to all weapons, making them the same
>Convenienced everything to make it easier, faster and more 'appealing' to more people
>Completely killed the series
Well at least they'll get desperate and remaster 3U and 4U now.
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>>750917308
Inferior in what way?
SA parry can be done on neutral and canceled into whenever, on top of that you can also completely cancel the counter by rolling/hopping and it has a massive active frame window.
LS counter needs you to enter a stance, has its own skill tax in the form of quick sheathe, wastes a ton of meter if it misses and can't be canceled while active, it's literal apples and oranges and you'd know it if you actually played the fucking game.
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>>750917483
extremely cringe and gay
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>>750884823
bait
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>>750913350
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>>750876578
truth nuke
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>>750918719
same fag
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>>750876578
truth nuke
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>>750876578
same was said about world because of its casualization but look at how beloved it is. monhun is fucked.
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>>750910902
Nobody hates the entire MH franchise quite like MH fans.
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>>750914572
No, I'll be playing Sunbreak until Wilds+Assdance goes on sale for like $20, although by that point P6th will likely be ready to go instead.
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>>750917483
>haha wow bro a white guy with a goatee it's TOTS MAXD000D xD!

kill these people unironically
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>>750912120
Based.
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>>750917136
>le shill reeeeee
the tranny janny faggot gave me but a warning and I shit you not the reason was for off topic posting.
at this point over many examples I am 100% convinced the janny niggers are the ones making these shit threads to begin with lol.
they live soley to be seething parasites. must not be too fun.
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>>750918990
Everything prior to world is good. Everything post world is dogshit and I fucking hate you. People who play nu-mh are monster hunter fans like the people who only played tameem may cry are DMC fans.
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>>750873027
To save wilds it would have to remove the ability of great sword to turn fully while charging.
And massively cut down on story both in the expansion and going back to trim the base game
And add true full underwater combat
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>>750920191
>new game is released
>/v niggers unrelentingly use the previous game to shitpost against the new one
now you go ahead and tell me a single time you bots haven’t followed this same exact script for every single new
game released.
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>>750920247
never happening x3
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>>750918974
My complaints about casualization in world has nothing to do with the actual combat, it was the restocking from your full supplies mid hunt, which all my friends who started with World thought I was crazy for having a problem with
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>>750920370
guess wilds is completely and utterly dead then huh xister?
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>>750920320
>previous game
Kill yourself
Every single rise nigger, every single world redditor, is also not a real mh fan and the fact that they exist is only because retarded consoomers exist, like you. Kill yourself.
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>>750920320
>/v niggers unrelentingly use the previous game to shitpost against the new one
90% of the people complaining about wilds are the world/rise newfags because the oldgen uncs left a long long time ago. this is essentially the same discourse from when world first came out and the oldgen crowd was seething endlessly.
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>>750920603
youre such a retarded nigger. I was a beta tester for the very first mh game along side capcoms first online games, those being auto modelista and Re outbreak.
been playing the series since then.
youre a retarded nigger and please keep seething, which I know you will.
every day
every thread
until bump limit
see you next thread nigger, gonna go drink some nice expensive cachaça, smoke a j and continue to play some of the best vidya conceived, you’re here forever and I know for certain.
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>>750876578
and boosted mode, The fact that Booster mechs are tied to wounds is gonna be a shit show. Not a single lesson learned. Notice how the popping wounds refills the gauge, so yep, get ready for all 4 players gonna fight over them now because all the fancy new moves are tied to them, genuinely what the fuck is wrong with ryozo?!
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>>750921128
>I was a beta tester for the very first mh game along side capcoms first online games, those being auto modelista and Re outbreak.
I don't think admitting to everybody that you've literally been on Capcom's payroll is going to help you beat the paid shill allegations bro
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>>750921341
>payroll
I wish I would get paid to play some of the basest bestest games still being made today bro. you got the hook up? let me know.
nah it was nothing like that, got the hook up by going to E3 and the auto modelista one was by sending a coupon from a
gaming magazine have no idea which one it was now.
trust me bro I am ridiculously fucking based with the most impeccable taste specially when it comes to vidya.
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>>750921128
ahahahaha!
the 80iq shill self-reports.
manager review incoming.
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>>750921128
didnt you get your shit deleted a while ago for trolling?
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>>750905241
you can also just use the other traditional kushala weakness, him falling on his ass after you bop him on the nose a few times. a nose he conveniently sticks out of 95% of his wind barriers
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>>750921627
okay bro guess youre just pretending to be a retarded faggot huh?
>>750921653
why? are you a jannie? get rekted nigger
>trolling
actually talking about and enjoying vidya is trolling to you mentally ill faggots huh? course already knew that
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>>750917491
4u literally introduced everything that was refined in world though. how charge blade plays in 4u is how every weapon plays in world, 4u drowned you in honey and other materials just by doing tutorial quests you can finish in literally 1 minute so gathering is no longer any time at all, 4u invented mounting for free downs, 4u had health augment to let you literally button mash in a monsters face trading hits and winning, and ledges to let you heal/sharpen extremely easily by making space

what world mostly did was just automate a lot of the stuff 4u did to make things easier, because some people didn't use the good weapons or take advantage of the good features and ended up struggling playing some dogshit like hammer without being able to craft high potions in mismatched gear with no skills because they were 9 years old and didn't look up literally any fourm for the game telling you all the shit.

but if you think reading a gamefaqs guide once and then never having issues is the appealing part of 3u/4u you're a dumbass
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>>750921774
>actually talking about and enjoying vidya
you are not really doing that. you are just insulting and arguing with everyone. which falls under trolling no?
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>>750876578
I love lolis si much it's unreal
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>>750921970
>Health augment
You mean honing, which required you to get a maxed out weapon and endgame apex materials, and gave you tiny chips of HP back?
You didn't actually play 4u.
And charge blade playing a certain way vs EVERY weapon playing that way - yes, proved that guy's point, that they made everything the same.
>hammer bad
retard
>stupid children couldn't do it so it should be removed / automated
you actually think this is an argument in your favor?
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>>750922602
>You mean honing, which required you to get a maxed out weapon and endgame apex materials
the exact same things world health augment needs yes
>gave you tiny chips of HP back?
I've literally healed 50% off a single greatsword charge slash
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I played quite a bit of Wilds, my biggest mistake was probably returning to World after that. It's hard to stomach focus mode gameplay and the blurry graphics with godawful performance, the terrible hit feedback and sound effects also don't help. Hype for g-rank's pretty low.



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