when producers have to fight/beg for quality in their games, there's a huge issue at the top.
>>750879191Based NakashimaA jap who doesn't kowtow for a change
>>750879191>steam record>when JRPGs are primarily played on consolesIs anyone else tired of the steamcultists on this website yet?
Now if only Sega would listen to this feedback. Nobody asked for a Persona or Phantasy Star Gachas.
>>750879191This is bad news. You're rewarding SE for the wrong reasons. This hd-2d gimmick will keep going for a long time unfortunately.
>>750879365Or 1 billion dollars for Sonic Fall Guys
>>750879191>spend $100 million to make $20 millionYep what a great decision lmao
>>750879317we can talk about player numbers on consoles when Sony and Microsoft tell us what they are
>>750879394HD-2D looks good.
>>750879365>PSO2 is kill because nips are all spinless corporate bootlickersPure unfettered rage
>>750879452If you're a zoomer, perhaps. You grew up with minecraft and fortnite.
>>750879191>make a good game>people buy itThis is like speaking a foreign language to Square Enix.They killed Deus Ex, remember
>>750879945Japanese devs, players and execs don't understand the appeal of the Immersive Sim genre anon; that's why they never tried to make their own version.
>>750879452no
>>750879945>They killed Deus Ex, rememberFuck. You just had to remind me
>>750879945>They killed Deus ExNever forgotten
>>750879538It's kill because the same guy has been running the show since GameCube and he's a senile fuck now. A lot of Sega execs need to retire like their old CEO did.
>>750880003More like 'immersive sim' is not a nailed-down term and therefore people can just dismiss all the Japanese games that share might qualify for the sake of argument. I'm having a hard time trying to come up with something more applicable than Boku no Natsu Yasumi
>>750879874I grew up on the NES and SNES. My sitter had an Atari 2600. HD2D looks good, outside of excessive DoF that can usually be turned off.
>>750879403What?The game reportedly cost around 15m if you include marketing costs.
>>750881223So you have the mental age of a zoomer, which is even worse.
>>750879191The game was also cracked very quick on PC and PS5 and word of mouth spread.
>>750879317We don't talk about that
>>750881239...and Steam takes 30% of that $20M
>>750881446Go figure
>>750879191No, the corpos were definitely right. TB fans don't buy games, no matter how good they are.
>generating about $20M
>>750879452Yeah it looks great after I install a mod to remove all the post processing effects.
>>750879191were they seriously just going to rerelease it as a gacha?
>>750883390can't tell if bait or retardation
>>750881493...and it was released on Switch, Xbox, and PlayStation as well
>>750883880900M > 20M
>>750883390>gachashitThey're right I didn't touch that garbage until now with resonance since it became an actual good game
>>750884041Nintendo, Sony and Xbox also take a ~30% cut.
>>750884128Real game > gachaphonegarbage
>>750884128I have to refuse to believe you are this retarded.neck yourself, etc..
>>750881146>Boku no Natsu YasumiNever played it; is it good?
>>750884452If it made 20M on Steam alone then it probably had enough sales to make its budget back on all platforms combined regardless of marketplace cuts is the point.
>>750879191That's slme high-aryan behavior.
So his career is dead, yes?
>>750879317Imagine being so sensitive that someone acknowledging public information sends you into a tight-butt rampage.
>>750886316Imagine being such a steamie that you don't understand other consoles exist.
>>750879317Perhaps when your low-tier prison platforms actually showed sales data you could be part of the conversation.
>>750886368Other consoles?
>>750886454My bad, platforms>>750886410But then you should understand that there's an incomplete picture so the data and metric overall is useless
>>750879317>what is a representative sample?Yes, it's a genre that does particularly well on Switch for some reason but what we can see is that the trend is good from Steam numbers.
>>750886558>anon doesn't understand representative samples
>>750886639>>750886563Representative samples never mean shit to me. It's like when I found out what TV neilson ratings are. Apparently you have to be a family who volunteers to get a box hooked up to your TV. Then they track what you view to get "ratings".2.2 million Americans watched the football game last night according to "Nielson" but guess what that fucking means nothing to me because I didn't nor anyone I knew since they were with me. Same goes for those "studies" where they picked like 1000 normalfag college students or some shit. Samples sizes are so stupid
>>750886850We already established you're an idiot, no need to explain further
>>750886905Then why don't you explain why picking a handful of normalfag goycattle is representing anything? It sure as fuck doesn't represent meI didn't buy the game on Steam. I bought and am playing it on Switch. Just as I had with JRPGs before it like playing FFXIV on the DS or FFI on the GBA
>>750879191We have pretty much nothing to lose at this point.
>>750887157Normalfag goycattle are in fact the very large majority of the population.
>>750887497Yes obviously, it's still very grim to think about and therefore "representative" samples are anything but
>>750883715>were they seriously just going to rerelease it as a gacha?Yep.Keep in mind, the new CEO comes from gacha and NFT background
>>750879241>A jap who doesn't kowtow for a changeFUN FACT:This is the same guy that did the cinematics for TotK.
>>750887771
>>750885052If you want the experience of being a Japanese kid back in the day on vacation, love good pre-rendered bg's or shit like catching bugs and then battling them or flying a kite then it is GOATed>>750885965
>>750888710I didn't play that game.
>>750879241Most of them don't. Nomura, this game's producer and director, Matsuno, etc. just do whatever the fuk they want. The problem is that execs try to stop them or reduce their output to put in stooges for the next titles. Then those titles floppa and they have to bring the actual talent back in to make money, then once they make that money they try to put the stooges in again.
>>750887157>game has steam client that is a proportion of the population>steam is the only platform that persistently reports player count>rough proportion is known>player count trend is expected to be about the same across all platformsSee, this is just a logical thing it's not about some market segment being "goycattle" or whatever the fuck.
>>750888710How is that fact fun?
>>750879191>fight for quality>cut out 90% of BE content, most of which was owned by square enix>retards think slapping new gwaphics on it and fucking up the game to make it retard proof is qualityOkay nig but maybe you should kill yourself as well
>>750889770>fucking up the game to make it retard proof is qualityWhat? Turn based is the ultimate retard filter thoughEspecially with the game actually being difficult on expert for a change
>>750889624>rough proportion is known"I pulled a random number from my ass" is not knowing.
Best FF of the decade, despite feeling a bit cheap and the meta build breaking the game. Not sure why some retards are so upset that the game is well received by turn based lovers. E33 must have broken them hard.
>>750890091>Best FF of the decade>this shit is the best FF has to offerGrim
>>750879317>Is anyone else tired of the steamcultists on this website yet?
>>750890091The meta builds have always broken the game in every FF though?Did people for get about X-Death Shredder or Rapid Fire-Dual-Wield-Magic-Sword or X-attack Genji Gloves? Etc etc In fact it's part of the fun when you get to quad cast KotR in VII for example
>>750890228Anything past X is neither canon nor an actual FF title.
>>750890273You're only thinking of FF5. Not many other FFs have a meta that's this broken to the point where it works on every superboss. The other closest example is probably FF8 where limit break spam is the only thing that matters.
>>750890516I literally mention w summon KotR in FFVII
>>750889848Turn based slop has been normie tard central since person 5 came out also brave exvious was barely turn based. It also wasnt 4 niggas in a row. It was 5 niggas in a row plus a guest but surely resonance still has the 2 to 5 hour long fights that normies had to quit in mass on because the games a normie filter right? Oh wait no, it doesnt because they rebalanced the entire game for retards.
>>750890584I'm not listening to anyone who's unironically played or knows about gachashitFuck are you doing playing that fucking garbage in the first place?If it weren't for all you fags I wouldn't have even know FFR was a gacha before. I only knew I enjoyed the demo and therefore bought the game.
>>750889624you know sony pulled out of PC because steam charts destroyed all their credibilityno one plays their games, they sell alot because of bundlesyou just know that if it wasn't for steam numbers being public they would have never shut down concord
>>750890885Good dont listen to me. Instead you, like every other retard can enjoy the fact you paid for a dog shit downgrade of a gacha. That makes you even worse than gacha fags lmao
>>750881146>Boku no Natsu YasumiWalking simulator
>>750890516In FFVI you could equip Genji Gloves and offering and use X-attack with the Atma weapon and Ragnarok/Illumina and do 8x 9999 damage for free
>>750887771You are in the bottom section, i hope ypu realize
>>750891740ff6 isn't difficult enough to need breaking. ff5's superbosses are puzzles anyway
>>750890356XI is a top 3 FF in every metric
>>750892027its too bad the community for it is ass, especially the ones that frequent here
>>750892027Good, where is the offline version then?
>>750879191Weren't you guys saying this was a flop last weekend?
>>750892373You can run a private server
>>750892503Why would you believe /v/?
>>750886410Based
>>750879317to do that we'd have to get rid of the jeets
>>750879191It's almost like capitalists are fucking poison.
>>750879365Oh please. Atlus has one (1) Persona gacha and SE is churning out gachas every year and they don't even last 2 years.
>>750893501No complaints from me for doing that
>>7508905165, 6, 7, Tactics, 8, 10, 12, and13 all have meta builds that let you absolutely trivialize the entire game, including the hardest of hidden bosses.
>>750879191>>750879241Honestly it reminds me a lot of Ubisoft where they had these great creatives at the company but the executive structure stifled them and closed them down at every point until those creatives had enough and left Ubisoft.I can see the same thing happening at Square Enix where the remaining people with creative sparks leave the company and set up their own or are hired by studios who respect their talent/ vision. Square Enix is a dinosaur.
>>750894246Huh?What was it in 10?
>>750879945They also owned the studio who made Wardogs until 2022, but same thing happened there. SE kept saying they were fully supportive and then when the guys behind Wardogs asked for support Square Enix in response went radio silent.
>>750894461early game: Rikkulate game: Wakka
>>750879191I kneel to that dev
>>750879191Good. Fuck big execs. They deserve nothing.
>>750886850Holy fucking retard. Did you even graduate?
>nobody on PC buys JRPGs>*over half the sales are of Resonance are on PC*Hmmm.
>>750886410Isldurkings
>>750896862Steam is the biggest gaming platform in the world. Who would argue it's not also where most sales happen?
>>750886410Perhaps you can go fuck yourself!!!!!
>>750894461rikku mix, but even more egregious than that was the samurai aeon yojimbo? who could just cut any enemy in half including all the dark aeons and super bosses.
>>750897480Console players
>>750879191>#29 on Steam after a week>I am forgottenHow is that new Golden Age of Final Fantasy coming along, gramps?
>>750899416I'm having fun with itWho cares about ball and gun gamers
>>750894246>meta buildsthey're just builds
>>750899416It's hardly forgotten and it still trends upwards on weekends. The positive word of month is real strong considering the game is a couple of weeks old.
>>750901069Maybe back thenNow the Internet labels everything
>>750899416Just shy of 2 weeks for a 55 hour game to 100% everything. That's about ~3 hours a day.
>>750892027what
Reminder that one of SE's execs moved their entire headquarters just because of what a fortune teller said.
>>750879191>Someone flush out the corpos at SEMy dyslexic ass read this as "Someone flush out the corpses at SE" but that kinda works too.
>>750896862>*over half the sales are of Resonance are on PC*Source?
>>750907086kek
>>750905507sure but the label doesn't make sensemeta as a label makes sense, but not here
>>750909182>meta as a label makes sense, but not herehow so? 'meta' in this context just means overpowered as shit
>>750907086Is it hard to be dyslexic on a board like this?
>>750879191Why are Japanese boomer execs out of touch without fail?
>>750909714Nah, 99% of the time people never notice it. It's not very severe, in terms of degree, and whenever I fuck up a word or miss something in a sentence people usually call me an ESL and move on.Which sucks if I feel I had a good point but I've been dismissed for much dumber reasons too so who cares.
>>750907631>https://steamdb.info/app/3259780/charts/The average is around 237k and the lowest estimate is 211k which is still more than half if the "400k sales in the first five days" bit is to be believed.
>>750909505nah, "meta-" means like outside, beside, beyond, etc. like as in metaphysicsthe "metagame" to a game is the game that occurs outside of the actual moves occurring in the game, such as if we were playing chess and trying to consider a few moves ahead of time. we're both playing a "metagame" that influences the physical game, and it evolves as the actual moves are madein competitive games there are strategies that emerge as the best, so assumptions can be made about what an opponent will do and what you might do to counter itoverall, those strategies become "the metagame", and it evolves.that's why when particular strategies, builds, etc. are the typical ones, they're referred to collectively as "the meta", or one might just say that a particular strategy, character, etc. is "meta"there's no reason to call a common build meta. builds are already intended to synergize, maximize, etc. and counter things that come up. that's just what a build is already
>>750910056>there's no reason to call a common build meta. builds are already intended to synergize, maximize, etc. and counter things that come up. that's just what a build is alreadya common build in a single player rpg like this, i mean
>>750907086Lmao that DOES work
>>750899416>256k salesWhat a fucking disaster.
>>750896381Producer. It takes big balls to challenge a Jap corpo hierarchy.
>>750909798It's not only Japanese boomer execs who are out of touch, Ubisoft were the same, Bethesda too, EA, and a bunch of those large studios. Because they stopped seeing vidya as a creative industry but KPI metrics for quarterly share percentages.I have absolutely no faith in Square Enix they are the Ubisoft of Japan, no idea why people still think they are worth trusting or giving attention to.
>>750879191stop posting ai written tweets
>>750910056The 'meta' part is that these usually are strategies or builds that are not obvious and even counterintuitive, that were looked up on the internet instead of organically discovered by the player. Many times these arent even optimal or even good strats though, they are just memed into acceptance. See FF2 and 8
>>750879317based fpbp triggering all the steamkeksHD2D fanbase is primarily Nintendofags due to Team Asano games originally being Nintendo exclusive from OT1. The few ff fags left that actually exist are Snoy fanboys. JRPG fags don't give a fuck about steam unless their a streamer. Steamchart numbers are just as relevant as Physical UK sales Chris Dring likes to dole out
>>750913808>Steamchart numbers are just as relevant as Physical UK sales Chris Dring likes to dole outI hate that crosseyed faggot like you wouldn't believe.
I like how challenging the bosses are on expert
>>750913945>>750913808Gottem
>>750879191reheated gacha sludge
>>750879317Once you learn the steamgoyim are literally just chinks trying to sabotage the JP vidya industry, a lot of shit starts making perfect sense.
>>750917790Really makes you think
>>750879191>400k copies generating 20 MillionGacha games clear that in just a few months. That's why everything in gacha now that comes out of Japan and China. FFBE probably has made 6x the cash with 1/10th the effort.
>>750920019Yeah but gacha is shit and played by subhumans
>>750889848>the game actually being difficult on expertEh...
>>750879191>release absolute trash for years>release a nostalgia game for retards>it does okay>now whatzzzzzz
>>750879191Its some shitty pixelshit hd2d slop who gives a fuck
>>750879317>Is anyone else tired of the steamcultists on this website yet?yes
>>750886410They show them all the time, you faggots just say "d-doesn't count"
>>750879191But it basically is just a port of a gacha game
>>750891182bundle sales are suddenly not sales?
>>750923362>>750923430FF drones are desperate for attention.
>>750879452They gotta try different art styles with the engine. Like even Adventures of Elliot which was more of a Zelda hack and slash game has the same look as Octopath or the DQ remakes, they gotta try some other art styles. Like for the sake of example Kirby's Dreamland 3 has a unique sprite artstyle, if Square brought in a team that sought for a different art direction people would not have fatigue over the engine that they do now
>>750879191>brave exviuswhat does that mean? Do gooks just pick random latin letters and pretend they are words?
>>750923413Very nice. Now let's see rebirth numbers
>>750923076Well it is until you break things by grinding >>750914568He's right.
>>750924851I'm in chapter 3 and thing have been smooth sailing. Zero grinding obviously.If this is what passes as a "challenge" these days then lol
