>N64: highest rated game ever>3DS: Lazy outsourced remaster becomes highest rated game on system>Switch: Lazy 1:1 remaster that adds nothing new even in 2026 besides casualizing puzzles which don't even speak the same visual language as the modern graphics--still gets 96%
the people who dedicate their lives to shitposting ocarina really must be on suicide watch
Majora's mogged it.
>>750955302>4 dungeons, 2 of them super linear, needs pink fairies for an illusion of challenge>get double defense 3 dungeons in>timne waste simulator playing the same song 500 times>lmao so randomOnly if you are a Redditor. Both are good though.
>>750955201I assume the main criticism in reviews is that the remake could've done a lot more. It's impressive that it still managed to score so highly. Assuming Nintendo didn't moneyhat the shit out of it.
>>750955302>>750955384MM's main weakness is simply that it rehashes OoT too much. All these assets and mechanics were brandnew when we played OoT.
>>750955201Do we know if the nonlinearity is still there? I.e. being able to do Fire Temple before Forest Temple, Bottom of the Well whenever etc. That was always something other Zeldas lacked for me, besides BotW going full retard with it>>750955302Not even TP managed to mog it and its entire purpose was to mog OoT
>>750955201>IGN giving it only 90%, lower than Mix Tape and the forgotten boredom simulator OnimushaI hope Iran nukes IGN.
>>750955773>and its entire purpose was to mog OoTFor real+
>>750955854IGN = Iranian Government Network
is there any playthrough yet? want to see all the things they massacred>ruto doesn't lose her extra set of eyes when she grows up>this side profile
>>750955201>Zelda OoT is the best game ever,I mean, duh. You compare games with their contemporaries and there was nothing like it back then. Elden Ring is great but there was already Zelda BotW, Witcher 3, Skyrim, all the other Souls-likes, and so on.
>>750955991https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLHiQX2wxrE
>>750956193as much as i like to hate on it, they absolutely aced the music. it's a masterpiece for this reason alone lol
>>750956193>that stuttery fog at 3:00Tf is going on?
>>750956193>Deku Tree speaks modern English ("you" when he should say "thou"/"thee")Jesus Christ...
>>750956436yeah is there one with japanese dub? that english navi is brutal
>>750956193>no longer have to aim for the center of the net to break it>net break animation is lame, momentum doesn't break, no longe satisfying, no memorable scream
>>750955201For me it's MGS1 though.
>>750956193>braindead eye switch puzzle is sitll thereshills defended replacing the ladder stuck in spider web with a generic eye switch because it's a "tutorial" for eye switches. but look, the easy tutorial eye switch is still in the game and there was no need for another one before it, and this one is just a waste of time now
>>750956193>they made the spiky rod so big that you can no longer skillfully jump over it (less player autonomy)also they for some reason moved the block puzzle so you can no longer skillfully skip it either
>>750957160
>>750956732>net
>>750956959>shills defended replacing the ladder stuck in spider web with a generic eye switchfor the few who don't know what i mean
Did they keep the lion door?
>>750957570looks more like a plastic net than anything else in the remake. in the original it's clearly elastic fantasy cobweb that stretches in a vey satisfying way
>>750956193they removed the bombable wall in the deku tree and replace it with a spiderweb, basically killing the fun of revisiting dungeons
>>750955201We're already aware of what happens if you dare to give a Zelda game anything below a 9
>>750955302SPBP
>>750958002if any journos are trolling these forums, ill paypal you $1000 to leave a 3/10 'critical' review.
FUCK THIS SHIT IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BOMB
>>750957823>they removed the bombable wall in the deku tree and replace it with a spiderweb,For fucking real? Man they do not get it.
>>750956193this was already known but you can now EASILY reach the castle in time instead of the game putting you in a surprising survival mode against never ending hordes of skeletons and encouraging you to explore the field a bit and maybe go to the ranch first before you go to the castle, which makes sense and makes it feel more like a long journey
>>750956732Spider nets are so annoying fellow ESL
>>750958282no, just kinda shitty in the remake
>>750956193they turned what should be the comfiest field in the game into a soulless maze/plaza just to add more walls and make it easier to sneak in for casuals
>>750956193this sucks
>>750956193more subjective but they basically replaced the comfy castle interiors with what feels more like an expansion of the plaza and it just doesn't have the same atmosphere. no fancy statues and stuff
It's kind of crazy to see "intellectual property owners" just completely shit on not only their own property, but their best properties.Not that it really matters. The originals remain in existence and there are more ways to play them today combined with user made ports that excel beyond what the first party even attempts to do. I just think it's retarded from every angle when considering the owner's perspective. Like do they not want money, it would be easy to just do what your fanbase and community are doing in your absence and what they ask for then just sell them that. I guess they'll buy it anyway so the whole thing is moot. Whatever.
>>750959067Jesus. How does the N64 game from 30 years ago have more variety?
>>750959506Because it was made by people with talent.
>>750958678I actually don't mind the courtyard. The only genuine improvement so far for me. It was just unfinished. >but the box flag doesn't get setThis is trash though.
>>750956193>removed the ability to name Link just so they can say his name in moviegame cutscenes I thought this was just a thing for BotW, shame.
>>750959067jfc these retards. THE GAME IS ALREADY CONISDERED PERFECT JUST COPY IT idiots
So far I really like the remake but ony one item displayed top right is bad and having x,y as musical notes instead of just a+b and four directions just looks goofy and makes remembering melodies more difficult at least for me
>>750956193apparently they removed dialogue options. completely pointless just have to say "ok" now whereas in the original it at least feels a bit like you are doing something and can cause funny reactions. could've expanded it but they decided to do the lazy thing instead
>cuccoos in the bombachu game are now cutoutsThere's more danger and fun in bluey than this game.
>>750959764>>but the box flag doesn't get setThe what
>>750959931Well why the downgrade?If you're gonna change it, improve it?Instead it's just babby-fied more than any Zelda before this.
>>750959952
>>750956193bro if i open this link and its the shirokko fag youtube channel imma kms
>>750960003When you stack 2 boxes near the entrance to courtyard, the boxes should stay there.You actually have to do it every time now and this makes it tedious.1998 QoL that this fucking demake doesn't have.
>>750955302Next remake?
>>750959952Seriously, are they trying to piss people off?You've literally removed features here.
>>750959952Most people, like 99.99% of all people, probably never even tried saying no but I agree with you that the omission of this was nothing but lazy.
Been watching ZFG play it, and so far it mostly seems really good, but there's some head-scratching sanding-downs (e.g. no more spikes in the Big Octo miniboss fight in Jabu Jabu). But far and away, having only one item button and the awful BotW linear weapon menu for it are proving to be the worst mechanical changes by far. Fine, they had to make room for a new jump button, I get it, but why did TWO item buttons have to be gutted for it???
>>750958213Yeah, the drawbridge apparently doesn't go up and the anon saying it did can fuck off. Getting stuck here was hard but fun as a little kid with first playthrough. It's a puzzle and an obstacle to overcome.The skeletons only have 1 cycle too before they just disappear. Insane. That was a cool moment to discover that they had a big one, and that every cycle they got bigger.
Why are only some lines voiced? That's even weirder than having no voice lines if that's what you're going to default to in gameplay
>>750958213Btw you can easily get on the drawbridge when first in hyrule field in the 3ds remake too when back-walking.
>no C-up to look around the placeIs this true?So you made a fancy shmancy HD game in 1080p and you won't even let me look around in it?They are on crack. What's the bet they couldn't prevent you from looking into objects in this, so they just removed it. Unbelievable
>>750960182They already have the models and overall code for most of the assets and in-game systems, so I wouldn't be surprised.
>>750955201It's a painfully boring game, but for some reason, autists seem to like it. Maybe because it's so methodical and bureaucratic, with brain-dead but repetitive gameplay: "Hey, how about lighting all these torches while wandering aimlessly in a place with zero danger?"
>>750955854The rating for crimson slop is way too high.
>>750960404Nah don't tolerate this trash.They can't even set flags right.It's slop.
>>750960461That screenshot of the drawbridge being up was because it was segueing to the Zelda+Impa escape scene before Link inadvertantly throws away Saria's Ocarina for the Ocarina of Time.
>>750956193kakariko has kinda lost its vibrancy and familiar charm, feels more like a dusty, forgotten backwater than a cozy village you know from childhood
How the fuck is nobody talking about the great fairies being censored and wear a plant towel instead now.
>>750960690>WHY CAN'T I JUST SKIP EVERYTHING AND PLAY WITH A PHYSICS GUN AAAAAAAA
>>750960797I hate the playdoh graphics.
>>750956193also already known but just for sake of comprehensiveness: you get a free bottle now, obviously for casuals so they don't even have to find bottles themselves
>>750961120Wait is this true? I don't remember the potion seller in oot.
>>750960849No, the more accurate question is: "Why isn't there any danger anywhere I look?"Or: "Why aren't there any really difficult puzzles for me to try to solve?"Or: "Why don't I need any skills?"Etc.Actually, I'm surprised the game is being well received. It's so slow and so pointless that I'd expect modern, retarded generations, accustomed to ultra-condensed content, to be unable to play the game for more than 10 minutes without falling asleep. But maybe that's exactly what's happening?Nostalgic journalists don't represent real players; let's see if the younger generations, with their trouble maintaining focus on anything for more than a few seconds, will actually get excited about a slow game, with no danger, no excitement whatsoever, where you just perform mindless, boring tasks one after another.
>>750960797That actually makes sense given it's a formerly depopulated settlement that was probably genocided.
>>750961189This is probably a new shop to give you bottle #5 that didn't exist in 64 in the first place.
>>750961189He does exist in the orignial/3DS (and he looks a lot more charismatic in them than he does in the remake).
>>750961474>not even voiced by Matt Mercer>looks like him
>>750956193the player actually almost died for the first time, but there are these new "fairy notes" everywhere and it gave him a free fairy
It's still crazy to me how close to objectively better looking this game is. There are a few small details about the graphics that irk me still.
>>750960797NOOO THEY REPLACED THE HECKIN COZY 2D STAIR AND BLOCKY HOUSES WITH ACTUAL 3D MODELS
>>750961829Some of the textures look shitter than n64 and things like water have polygons. The lighting is fucked, looks shit. Buy an ad.
>>750961870>WITH ACTUAL 3D MODELS>doubt.jpgThe textures for shit is used to compensate for the lake of objects still and it looks shit for 2026.
>>750961898Come on bro at least meet me somewhere in the middle so we can discuss the game...You can't deny the graphics look 90% of the way to a perfect modern OoT remake.
>>750962004>ESLbabble
>>750961870Yes.
>>750962040Not him but the lighting is terrible like most modern games. The only thing I've seen is hands down better is the horizon of Hyrule Field.
>>750961259Gen Alpha doesn’t even play consoles. They play Steal a Brainrot on their mom’s phone while YouTube has AI cat videos autoplaying on a second screen.
>>750957205This is called better game design
>>750962040Well it should look more like this if it was competent.It's not even close and they are rolling in money.They could have just done a more polished OoT3D and I would have been happier.Can we talk about the controls btw? Wtf is going on?
>Be me and own switch 2.>OOT remake doesn't look good to me.>Dad grew up with the original; loved it.>Awestruck by the Nintendo hire this man graphics.Do I buy the game for him to play bros? There's no way in hell he'll understand emulation.
>>750962174>astrobait
>>750962637No, emulate OoT3D or play Ship of Harkanian.Do not play this garbage.Nintendo needs to be taught a lesson for it's DRM faggotry and diminishing quality.
ok Sheik is FAR too feminised because nintendo hate trannies or something after BotW.>waaaah they ruined my boy!Reminds me of Bioshock Infinity dev.
>>750962514The video you quoted, yes
>2026>can't kill any npcsold game.
>>750956193partially really looks like an xbox 360 game
>>750962995There are OoT romhacks that look better than this and play better.
The worst part of this is that modern nintendo fans will now turn on the original and hate it with intense ferocity. You are no longer allowed to like the original without being a snoy
>>750955302I keep forgetting that it's totally fine if Nintendo reuses 90% of another game's assets
>>750956193damn ending credits they're in the way
Wait, do redeads no longer mourn for the dead?Oh FUCK OFF.
>>750961870leftist_discourse.webp
>>750963159Well maybe they should play ship and be shocked to discover shit this remake blatantly just ignored and how much better the gameplay is with c buttons.
>>750963232You're thinking of TotK. MM does not reuse stuff on that scale.
>>750963318>mourn for the deadWhat is this Nintenbabby autism? It's implied they eat them, as zombies do.
>>750956193they extended Ganon's imprisonment scene?
>>750955256This. I’m happy to see the “Ocarina of Time was never good” narrative finally come to an end. Cultural marxists lost today. They tried to push a revisionist narrative about one of the greatest works of art ever made and it blew up in their faggot faces. The fact that OoT was about a blonde-haired boy retaking his traditionally European kingdom from a muslim-coded invader cannot be ignored. That is where a lot of their hatred has always come from. OoT is unironically a nationalist game made by honorary Aryans. It’s also just a really damn good and timeless game even when you put that aside. At least they have GTA 6 to look forward to, that was tailor made for their kind.
>>750956193best parts so far is that the music is (still) great and gerudos are hot (although they m ade them taller than adult link because of botw influence, which is a bit gay)
>>750963365Republicucks lost
>>750963423Based and true
>>750963423>retaking his traditionally European kingdom from a muslim-coded invaderAnd yet you called me a racist and sexist if i wanted to kill gerudo in BOTW. piss off ya fuckin hypocrite.
>>750963423>>750963523Samefagging shitskin sandnigger alert.
>>750956193jesus that's a lot voice actors in different languages and the sages don't look dead. they just teleported to death mountain probably going on their regular lives now, until wind Waker.
>>750963594Not really. Also you are an obvious shitskin falseflagging as only a shitskin would get triggered by this
>>750963521literally dating a trans woman for 7 years now, and i bottom for her every single day. we literally fucked while watching zion don get blown the fuck out.
>>750956193remake spells out that you can get free milk from cows to make it even easier. was more of a hidden easter egg in the original iirc
>>750957160>make things easierNOOOOOOOO!>make things harderNOOOOOOOOOOOO!
>>750955854ChatGPT Shartsert vote is spot on.
>>750963793>make easy thing way too easy>make annoying thing atrociousworst of both worlds in all scenarios.
imagine if smash 6 uses these models for Link Zelda Ganondorf Impa (newcomer)
>>750956193Weird... I thought the upbeat part of the end credits theme was removed. But before pointing that out, I went to check different sources, and in other videos, it includes the upbeat part. So now I'm wondering why this video removes it, and the other videos include it. Was the ending music edited?
>>750963793That's not making it harder, it literally removes the harder (but faster) way to solve it.
>>750963879please no, those rice cunts still haven't dropped Other M's shitty varia suit after 16 years.
>>750963382tendies are unironically the most delusional """""people""""" on this planet
>>750956193then this ugly dog fur was posted here, fanboys and shills argued it's a dog dress and not really fur. it's really fur
>>750963614The sages were *always* seen at death mountain in the ending sequence. But they float there as spirits, and then float away again. Implying that they exist as guardian spirits. Not living beings.
>>750964042Dude are you really going to try to equate some models and enemies to the entire overworld?
>>750964060>fanboys and shills argued it's a dog dress and not really furkek did they really? Have they not played the original?
>>750964060as a dog lover, dogs can look like this.
>>750956193You can't trap morpha in a corner anymore
>>750956193there now seems to be an obvious visual indicator letting you know which tunnel is the right one in the lost woods. yellow paint musical notes lol
>>750962359That's true. The game will likely be played by an older audience.
>>750962995this looks fucking horrendous
>>750964264Oh no no no no no.
>>750964264Well they had to do something for it. It was strictly an audio puzzle, modern day games HAVE to have accessibility nonsense in case that one deaf guy plays it, needs a visual cue, and then complains on twitter when there isn't one.
>>750956193really no longer ANY reason to memorize the songs, can just look at them with your ocarina out
>>750964060i can't believe the blue dog won all these years
Removing kids to adults esrb rating was the worst thing to ever happen to video games.
>>750964525>Well they had to do something for it. It was strictly an audio puzzleNo you could alternatively look for a small white vanishing point at the end of a tunnel. Just takes some pattern recognition.
>>750962995Yuck. I hope that’s in HH because NL said the resolution sucks undocked.
>>750958213>that's a big drawbridge10/10 oh my science
>>750964606Eh, I don't mind that.This wasn't fun as a kid. I totally get this one.>t. actually did music in the end so had to do this IRL with instrumentsAnd that was not fun either.The worst one was the zora band songs in MM.
>>750964113>as spiritsheadcanon
>>750964686This. This was what i relied on as a kid, and did just fine.
>>750964685ESB is so fucking outdated and needs to be revamped. But they’re never going to go back and re-rate thousands of games so we’re stuck with it. Same with TV ratings.
>>750955302The only thing MM does better than OoT is sidequests.
3DS version wins because it has this in it.
A Link to the Past > OOTranny
>>750955201I still don't care
>>750964606i wrote all the songs down as a kid lol
>>750964929If they are fully corporeal, then why not join the celebration with their friends?
>They got rid of the "Twenty-three is number one" lineI know a friend who will very disheartened by this which how much he's praised the verbiage over the years.
>>750963450>That tummyMaybe remakes aren't so bad...
>>750965169Isn’t that a Michael Jordan reference? There’s no way anybody’s getting that in the big 26.
is it even possible to hack my switch 2 yet or do i really need to pay $80 for this glossy unreal looking ass slopif u like this game ur the reason gaming is dead
>>750957160speedruntrannies BTFO, based
>>750965318Speedrunfags won big thanks to business scrub seeds.
Dunno bros to me this remake lies between 3ds and og Zelda.
>>750965076kino
>>750965559Is the Mask of Truth still just a useless tool to read the stones and do the stones say anything new that's interesting or still just nonsense? And you can wear it as an adult?
>>750964606Wasnt this already a thing on the 3DS? you could look them on the bottom screen iirc
>>750955201>jewnalist scores matter when they suit my narrative
>>750965240>Nah bro *smacks lips* no one finna cap what dat means mang! AKEKEKE! Oh yeah it should be a 67!!!!! reference instead.Fuck you, it's catchy. Why do you want everything to sanitized? Why do you hate fun?
>>750965917Yes the 3DS verison was already a casualized turd.
>>750956193>Dark Link's room has no reflections>Link's shadow fades away when passing the island>The fight itself is more 'wait until the boss finishes their attack for an opening' rather than copying Link's attacks>Dark Link's sword glows red at the end of his combos that's practically a cue for when to strike
>>750965848Zased.
>so hard to farm rupees>everything super expensive>but they still made tackling kids 200 rupeesThis is just so funny. It's encouraging skull kid murder.
>>750966142I dont get how they managed to ruin a mimic fight, making Dark Link super agressive ruined the whole point of it, by far the biggest butchering among the bosses, I like how he retreats like mist though thats cool but thats the only thing ill give it
>>750964060
>>750964904
>>750966142>>The fight itself is more 'wait until the boss finishes their attack for an opening' rather than copying Link's attacksThat's good!>Dark Link's sword glows red at the end of his combos that's practically a cue for when to strikeOh, that's bad...
>>750955302/thread
>>750966267oh god no, not the rugdog
>>750955302>Majora's complimented itCorrect. The game compliment each other and both should've been remade and bundled together.
>>750955201i don't remember the light or sun looking like that in the top left image
>>750963423The real Link has brown hair.
>>750963594Holy lack of reading comprehension or are being retarded on purpose. You’re definitely a Gerudo.
>>750962995So these are the amazing graphics famitsufags were shilling... woah...
>>750959067>not completely obviousIf you missed any of these in the original you are a drooling retard.
>a lot of the floors are just jank and garbage from the engine ported from SS to TotKThe doors unlocking are SO SLOW and have far less satisfaction for me. I've had this for several gens of Zelda now.It's small thing like that and things like animations looking kinda sloppy and lacking the original's feel that lose the game's character.It just lacks grit.
>>750955201>watch ending sequence>no kokiri forest remix>no adding in all the new instruments, or the chorus from malon and the construction workers>doesn't play the sacred realm music when cutting to the sages>doesn't play the grand finale>just FUCKING LOOPS THE TITLE THEMEi fucking despise this company so much.
>ice cavern OST>virtually identicalhuh.
>>750966791>>no kokiri forest remix>>no adding in all the new instruments, or the chorus from malon and the construction workersWhat was the point of lying about something so easy to check?
>>750966142>>Dark Link's room has no reflectionsAre you kidding me? The whole point is the reflection manifesting into a reflection of Link
>>750966893stupid nigger. https://youtu.be/oLHiQX2wxrE?t=67726
>>750963742>He needs to bottle heartsdon't take damage casual
>>750966972That video is fake as fuck https://youtu.be/ACzXuews5E4?t=5180
>>750966893Probably to blow you the fuck out in a couple of posts HAHAHAHA
>>750966791How do they not have internal checklists for this shit already ay? Did they just delete them?There's just so many details gone, you wonder if the people making this actually made the original or 3DS.Spoilers: they didn't. Migrant labour. Blackbirding.
>>750967095get fucked you dumb retard >>750967046and stop posting fake shit to get mad about.
>>750967141stop falling for fake shit retards. >>750967046
>>750967046i'd like to formally apologize. i was the stupid nigger the whole time.
>>750966893>or the chorus from malonThere is a lost woods track.She definitely sings in it too, fuck off.What is this gaslighting?Nigger, you're talking to people that either speedrun or play this game to EVERY detail. Some mod the game.
>>750966284That's fucking terrible. The original forced you to try different attacks and items to slip through the mirrored attacks and reach him. Now it's braindead.
Metacritic is a waste of time. Dark Souls only scored 89 but it's better than OoT in every department.The Nintendo Bonus is 100% real.
>>750966907See for yourself, Timestamp is 12:49:11 if the start point doesn't work.https://youtu.be/oLHiQX2wxrE?si=Z-vkN6ZmcYs-rtpY&t=46151
>>750961120Tommy Wiseau is in the game?
>>750956193the remake spells out exactly what path to take after dodongo's cave. in the original, being told to seek out the zoras can be a bit confusing as the map marks multiple locations and it's easy to assume you're supposed to investigate the lake, especially since rauru already mentions a hidden dungeon there (all of which is good because finding things yourself is fun and it encourages you to explore the world)
>>750967448>Dark Souls only scored 89 but it's better than OoT in every department.Kek, Souls is a janky turd where you do the same thing for 30 hours. No one would care about it without the meme dificulty.
>>750964264>yellow paint notesKEKAROO!
>>750959067>right comparison uses HD texture packthe text is correct but that is retarded, you're not properly conveying the point if you're using a graphics mod, fix the image
>>750967793Navi and Saria point you toward the river.
>>750964525They can make things like this optional. Leave it off for default, and then deaf people can go into the options menu to turn it on. Make it wording something non-spoilery like "hearing loss compensation">>750964686I doubt that was an intended clue.
>>750968041don't remember anything as explicit
>>750958213>in a surprising survival mode against never ending hordes of skeletonsunless you stay on the actual path in which case nothing spawns to attack you>butgame tells you
>>750967926literally doesn't matter. change it yourself if you want to use it for your blogpost
>>750968231>unless you do the thing no one does>game tells you, except it doesn't
>>750958213>Focus, L. That's a big drawbridge.>A drawbridge?>Yes, L. A drawbridge or draw-bridge is a type of moveable bridge typically at the entrance to a castle or tower surrounded by a moat. In some forms of English, including American English, the word drawbridge commonly refers to all types of moveable bridges, such as bascule bridges, vertical-lift bridges and swing bridges, but this article concerns the narrower historical definition where the bridge is used in a defensive structure.
>>750959067>>750959506>>750959646>>750959931>>750960023samefag
>>750956193some characters really just lost all their soul and liminal weirdness in their design
>>750968092Yeah of course they could, but Nintendo seem completely averse to expanded options menus. Mario Kart World had pretty much no options, and even Zelda OoT Remake has no audio sliders. I honestly don't get why they still don't do it, it's not exactly invasive.
>>750968351>He’s just an American in the remake
>>750966142>>750967740That's actually unironically grim.
>>750968350I'm only one of those. Stop pretending to be a janny
>>750968351Holy shit.
>>750955302fpbp/thread
Nintendo hired that man...
>>750956193There's no timer during the castle escape at the end.
>>750968835
>>750968351>>750968572El Ogre de las Hyrule…
>>750963546I hate botw so you’re barking up the wrong tree. Being able to kill every Gerudo in that game would definitely have made it better, though.
>that whole revamped frozen link and ganondorf on the golden realm scenemakes me think they made it specially for the movie producers to cue them in on lore stuff.
>>750956193remake ruins one of the fun cryptic quests in oot, completely spelling it out for players. as if it isn't enough that there now is a hollow in front of jabu jabu to put the fish inside, they also added this clown to leave absolutely no doubt
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>>750969081how did this get 96%?
>>750969081This reminds me of how streaming shows have characters spell out the plot every 20 minutes. because the writers think the viewers aren’t paying attention.
>>750960797Over the past 20 years, all color has been drained from the world. It's a reflection of people's general discontentment with life.
>>750969081Global IQs have been dropping for some time. Modern kids would likely never be able to figure this stuff out.
>>750969180Because even if you smear shit all over it it's still an amazing game.
>>750969081At least could've made the fingers not clip
>>750956193Where is the german dub
>>750969549Are you blind
>>750967409>Uhm *smacks lips* ACKCHUALLY, you're suppose to un-z-target him and swing your sword like a spastic idiot or use the Megaton hammer which takes more skill to pull off than having a """real""" sword fight that tests your reflexes and skills, but the INTENDED way is to use Din's Fire since the pots outside the boss door have magic jars to refill your magic meter.>No I haven't played Zedla 2, why do you ask?
Speaking of, is there anyone who has gone through the boss rematch feature yet? I wanna see what kind of lore the bosses were given
>>750965913You can read NPCs' thoughts with it like the dream nail in Hollow Knight
>>750956193The english voices in this game sound like a parody of anime dubs
>all these replies shitting on the game>the blue wave destroying chuds Sony won Woke won woke sharia is here all tendies will be sent to labor camps lmao post yourselves destroying all your Nintendo stuff and maybe we won’t send you to the gulag for supporting that shitty rightoid company
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>>750969852Based HOPE won reminder to all anti wokes everyone hates you and will cheer and clap seeing you get tortured
>>750966267*inhales Copium* It’s supposed to look like a stage prop.
>>750967784>oh hi link!>what a story, Link!>oh hi dawgy
>>750956193is this the most dumbed down, woke and soulless remake of all time?
>>750955302MM is dogshit.
>>750970046>dumbed down, right wing, and soulless takeFTFY woke 2.0 is here and you will accept it and love it
>>750969180millenial shills, remember nintendo is blackmailing journos for perfect scores for decades but tendies will never admit it.
>>750956193it's like they didn't adapt this boss to the fact that you can sprint now at all. he actually might be slower than in the original game
>>750955201I don't really have a stake in this after getting a solid PC last year, but I still think it's crazy (bad) to remake OoT (or any good game, for that matter). What's the point (from a consumer's point of view) if you're only making visual and "QoL" updates? I can't see it as anything less than a cash grab if they aren't adding substantial amounts of new content and/or fixing major technical issues.>speaking ofIf Bethesda winds up remaking New Vegas, you just know it's going to be UE5 slop that, at best, patches a few of the original's issues. No way they'll restore any cut content.
YOU CAN REFLECT SHIT WITH THE BOTTLEREMAKE 10/10
>>750970046>woke? If there is one good thing about this remake it's that they, against all odds, didn't add a bunch of brown NPCs. In fact new white ones.
>Tranime style gasping I am so fucking suck and tired of this outdated concept that every and all Jap games MUST have any and all dubs mimic Jap stye acting mannerisms and grunts. People do not gasp or sigh like they're orgasming every time they open their gullets or eat food. It's not cute, it's not sexy and only appeals to a very minor subset of porn addicted weebs that need their women to sound like babies.
>>750970341YouTuber Spawn Wave said his kids refused to play N64 OoT. They asked him if the game was broken. This is why early 3D games keep being remade.
>the walk into phantom ganon's room where nothing initially happens is goneffs why?>I like Mercer's rendition, I don't get the hate he's the best eng VA there by far>>750970046We were all joking about the remake having yellow paint too...>>750970150Fuck of faggot, it's the best one.It's not aged nearly as bad as OoT and games are literally trying to rip it off to this day.
>watch zfg for 10 seconds>immediately want to buy a switch 2why can adult link use masks or is it just mask of truth?
>>750955201>Switch: Lazy 1:1 remasterstill better than ff7 "remake(s)".
>>750970487I'm not so far gone that I can't understand that OoT is a little primitive in areas, but it's one of the easiest N64 titles to go back to. It has fewer rough edges than a lot of GameCube games. Same goes for Star Fox 64. At a certain point, these games are made due to name recognition and (relatively) low development costs. The product is tailored more to the corporation than it is the consumer.
>>750956193there are casualizations and uglifications really everywhere
>the sheer static septic shock of how terrible this rendition of Ocarina of Time will eventually be revealed to be is already worse than Halo Studios got for Campaign Evolved>The Legend of Zelda: Digital Hiroshima
>>750955854What the fuck is wrong with these freaks? I don't even hate Mixtape, but giving that shit a 10/10 and OoT a 9/10 just a few months apart is fucking vile.
>>750970523its aged just as much as ocarina you stupid nigger
>>750970936kill yourself you stupid niggerI'm tired of this "casualization" faggotery, because at the end of the day, you would figure it out by yourself if you weren't a subhuman low IQ retardremake is a 10/10Some of the stuff like >>750957205 was probably intended, but because retards like you that need to be spooned up the ass, they had to do it in the remake>babying about shit that you 100% DID NOT do on your first playthrough, nor second
>>750955201>still gets 96%9/10 will be the floor to not get blacklisted by nintendo
>>750971125Meds
>>750971136kek this
>>750970983In your dreams snoyboy
>>750970765not even close unless you're brown lol
>>750970983This has already oulsold H:CE 5x over. Amazon and Game Stop can’t keep it in stock.
They removed the implication that Ruto and Link have sex.
>>750970554it was honestly fucking stupid that Adult Link couldn't wear masks before, especially considering half the people in the trading quest are other adults who wear the masks.
>>750971551pedo
>>750971103Outer Wilds literally rips it's idea off. There are a few rogues that do it too. A lot of games. The story is so much better. OoT is mainly just Mcguffins that don't mean much.>the remains of spirits possessed by majora required to free a giant that can stop a moonvs>medallions that ... are just needed for some reasonI don't see too many Zelda clones, because nowadays souls has replaces that niche anyway though souls is often even stranger with weird esoteric shit you need to collect to move on. OoT just doesn't come near souls with difficulty with open or dungeon style settings and enemies.You do have platforming though. I'll give it that.Elden Ring has a far better plot. It's not perfect, but it's way more intricate and fucked up. Oh and you have games like Skyrim or The Witcher too.
>>750971725Ruto is probably over 18 actually. They live longer.
So they really added zero new NPCs or buildings or whatever to the field?
honestly didn't expect them to kinda pull an LttP by making resources in the wild scarcer (namely by nerfing a lot of freestanding/chest Rupees, making some shit way more expensive, and ammo refills giving you FAR less than they did in OoT), seems like they took note of how useless Rupees became for 99% of players after the Deku Shield
>>750971725>both are children>pedoBotW is pedo and you don't care.
>>750955201So there's really no new areas to explore? New quests? ANYTHING to expand upon the original? I feel like everyone is going apeshit of the exact same game but just with QoL changes and better graphics. The Resident Evil remake is the perfect example of how you remake a game.
>>750955773>Do we know if the nonlinearity is still there? I.e. being able to do Fire Temple before Forest Temple, Bottom of the Well whenever etc. That was always something other Zeldas lacked for me, besides BotW going full retard with itThis is exactly what I bring up with this game. OoT took inspiration from ALttP. ALttP really opened up after the first 3 dungeons going into the halfway point. Similar thing with OoT.
>>750971732you sound deranged trying to discredit oot by comparing it to games that came out 30 years later and brought nothing new to the table
>>750971903>ALttP really opened up after the first 3 dungeons going into the halfway point.You can do the dungeons afterwards out of order?
>>750971779>OH HEY, HI, OH THIS? UHHH YEAH MY SHOVEL HAHA I WAS JUST UH. JUST UH JUST DIGGING THIS HOLE I AM IN HAHA. um ackshually ruto is a 1000 year old demon so she is TECHNICALLY OLD ENOUGH
>>750971871Theres a secret ending if you get all the Threads of Time pieces and a few other things that shows after the credits the Threads of Time is owned by Sahasrahla from ALttP. Thats about it.
>>750972015Cheers thank you. I really want to get excited for this but I'm just seeing more of the same stuff and people acting like it's all entirely "brand new".
>>750971984>You can do the dungeons afterwards out of order?Yes.
>>750972015>>750972110why no MAJORAS MASK spoiler
>>750955201original is a 7 objectively
>>750972134Between EoW coming out, Sahasrahla owning the threads of time in the OoT remake, and Aonuma wearing a ALttP shirt, I think the Zelda devs are starting to feel nostalgic about the Downfall timeline in general now.
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>>750972221In reality it's the highest rated game ever though. Cope.
>>750971429We say "NIGGER" here, tourist Zoomer faggot.
>>750972596oh yeah millenisissy? well i got a big one for you>NIGGERNIGGER___________NIGGER__NIGGERNIGGERNIGGER_____NIGGERNIGGERNIGGER_____________NIGGERNIGGERNIGGER________NIGGERNIGGERNIGGER__NIGGERNIGGER>NIGGER_NIGGER__________NIGGER__NIGGERNIGGERNIGGER___NIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGER _____NIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGER___NIGGERNIGGERNIGGER__NIGGER____NIGGER>NIGGER__NIGGER_________NIGGER_________NIGGER_________NIGGER___________________________NIGGER__________________________NIGGER________________NIGGER______NIGGER>NIGGER___NIGGER________NIGGER_________NIGGER________NIGGER___________________________NIGGER___________________________NIGGER________________NIGGER_______NIGGER>NIGGER____NIGGER_______NIGGER_________NIGGER________NIGGER___________________________NIGGER___________________________NIGGER________________NIGGER_______NIGGER>NIGGER_____NIGGER______NIGGER_________NIGGER________NIGGER___________________________NIGGER___________________________NIGGERNIGGERNIGGER__NIGGER______NIGGER>NIGGER______NIGGER_____NIGGER_________NIGGER________NIGGER______________NIGGER______NIGGER______________NIGGER______NIGGERNIGGERNIGGER__NIGGER____NIGGER>NIGGER_______NIGGER____NIGGER_________NIGGER________NIGGER______________NIGGER______NIGGER______________NIGGER______NIGGER________________NIGGERNIGGER>NIGGER________NIGGER___NIGGER_________NIGGER________NIGGER__________________NIGGER__NIGGER__________________NIGGER__NIGGER________________NIGGER____NIGGER>NIGGER_________NIGGER__NIGGER_________NIGGER_________NIGGER_________________NIGGER___NIGGER_________________NIGGER__NIGGER________________NIGGER______NIGGER>NIGGER__________NIGGER_NIGGER__NIGGERNIGGERNIGGER___NIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGER _____NIGGERNIGGERNIGGERNIGGER___ NIGGERNIGGERNIGGER__NIGGER_______NIGGER>NIGGER___________NIGGERNIGGER__NIGGERNIGGERNIGGER_____NIGGERNIGGERNIGGER_____________NIGGERNIGGERNIGGER ________NIGGERNIGGERNIGGER__NIGGER_______NIGGER_
>>750972596>outing yourself this hardcalm down saar
>>750971990>I-I'm attracted to her BECAUSE she's old, n-not that she looks like a child! Honest!
>>750972663MILLENIBROS......
>>750972663Easy, bot nigger. You only had to say it once...>>750972689If you're too scared scream slurs then you're ur a fag.
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>>750972663I'm crying and shaking rn
All of the marketing for this remake made it seem like just a graphics overhaul with better controls. In reality the developers removed and shifted around a lot of little things, adding up to probably hundreds of unnecessary omissions and creative liberties. It feels very disrespectful to the original. At least with Star Fox they made it clear from the start that it was not a literal 1:1 translation of the N64 game, here it really feels like Nintendo just lied to everyone. It's disingenuous to claim this is the same game in spirit, structure or even tone in my opinion.
>>750956959at least you have to aim at the eye switch this time
>>750972907>this coping retard pretending that's part of the puzzle againYou have to aim a million other times in the game.
>>750972938What's special about this ocarina anyway? Why not just keep the old one that can already play magic songs?
>>750972295I wouldn't be shocked if Link to the Past gets the prestige remake treatment but as a 3D game within the next decade or so (though I'm not confident enough to say it feels like a sure thing either). It's definitely very overdue for LttP, especially if re-establishing a game's series significance is a motivating factor like it allegedly was for OoTR. Though of course MM would be the more obvious next target for this gen. but if this theoretical LttP Remake were to also opt for using outside media as an artistic inspiration, then please for the love of god at least make it a 2D inspiration and not another fucking toy-based style, gimme a game visually inspired by Katsuya Terada's gorgeous Zelda 1-4 art he did for Nintendo Power
>>750973116Zeldas just a jealous bitch who wants to give Link something to treasure instead of Saria.
>>750973116The Ocarina of Time is SUPER magical compared to regular magical. It's the only thing that can open the Door of Time and presumably, the reason Link can time travel in MM.
>>750968447Reflections are lost technology, please understand.
>>750972882HOW DO I LIVE AFTER READING THIS POST AAAAAAA IT'S SO JOEVER
Can Like-Likes suck you up?I'm losing my mind here.>>750973191What about the original Zelda?
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>>750971930The fuck are you on about? This is a remake not a remaster.Talk about cope.
>>750973116It's basically a two-part key for the Door of Time - the Song of Time combined with the Ocarina of Time (not to mention requiring another 3 keys in the form of the Spiritual Stones). It's the entryway to the Sacred Realm, so security obviously has to be top notch. so who's the genius Sage who decided on a hardcoded minimum age for the Master Sword that incapacitates otherwise-worthy underage heroes and leaves the door wide goddamn open until it's met? at least they clearly got fired/tardwrangled by the time WW rolled around>>750973464>What about the original Zelda?I don't agree with this either, but BotW WAS the Zelda 1 revival in Nintendo's eyes.
>>750963793They made the skill floor AND skill ceiling lower.
>>750956193remake seems to misunderstand the story unless it's just a bad translation. "too young to be the hero" turned into basically "too weak of a child to do the job." the triforce/master sword have some kind of genetic memory, knowing that hero incarnations are always young adults rather than preadolescents. same reason zelda can magically revert to her true form in oot and wind waker because the triforce knows what zelda usually looks like
>>750956193it's genuinely absurd that the same 5 shitty fucking anime voice actors keep getting all the roles for anything from japan. I particularly hate the one woman that uses the same fucking voice in literally fucking everything
>>750974083I still dont see how the two in the image are different. What other dialogue is there that changes implications?
>>750974083likewise, sheik losing her tan weakens the story implication of her infiltrating ganondorf/gerudos after her sheikah training, something the manga does a great job of expanding on and a proper remake would too + playable sheik segmentswe'll see if ganondorf still calls her a traitor in the remake
>>750969751It's funny because Din's isn't even required to beat the game.
>>750974467>the stingy wavy troon hair
>>750974483How you do the shadow temple torches then? I like to use it agains the annoying enemies in the ice cavern anywa
>>750974568You can do it with well placed fire arrow shots.
>>750974673That seems a bit cumbersome. Has it ever been successfully attempted before?
>>750956193the link pussyfication continues
>"pffft real dungeons and non-sandbox progression are lame, who wants that shit ever again?">tasked almost immediately after with producing an Ocarina of Time remake, but an actual ground-up remake this time instead of just a model revamp since it's a 40th anniversary celebration and indirect movie tie-in>the remake is reviewing comparably to Aonuma's darling BotW and TotK>opening sales at least are on track to be absolutely explosive too>now Aonuma's going to be back in OoT's shadow for a little whilethis is what you get for trying to throw almost the entire catalog of the IP you've been working on under the bus and attempting to stake an illegitimate claim on Zelda 1's heritage for a rehash of 7th/8th gen western open world games you resentful fucker
This is the power of Oot. Buy in now before you miss out on Ninty's financials crushing it.
>>750974965Is she taller than him? Bruh
>>750974839It's an entry level trick in rando. You don't even need good execution.https://youtu.be/VOvx2pQy9A4
thanks amazon, lol
>>750974513Woke won
>>750974965>all the emphasis on maturing and "WOW you have grown so much Link, you are so cool and strong now">smaller than the first girl you run intoMale power fantasy really is dead.
>>750974467Why did he call her a traitor in the first place? Shiek only overtly serves Ganondorf in the manga.
>potentially no Zora King kiss
>>750975305>while voter ID and anti-trans sports initiatives passed in even blue states
>>750974513Is sydney a good place?
>>750956193those weak plant enemies everywhere to make sure you never run out of stun nuts
>>750974995But... outer wilds exists.He has an ffs use it.It's right there. >has to hate this game for some reasonI just don't get him.
>>750974513>background says Big Hand
I will admit, these temples look a BILLION times better than TotK's stylistically. Those looked really shitty and the giants ended up being better in the end. Forest, Jabu, Well and Water look STUNNING.That is one thing I cannot criticise. I'm kinda mad so many other things are not cooked right, because the aesthetic of the temples is neato.
>>750975537legitimately an Arrested Development-tier joke
>>750956193they censored this dialogue, it's gone and he just starts talking about his business like a soulless NPC
>>750973786Honestly this is one plot point they could have changed. Make Ganondorf wound Link so badly it takes years to heal, or something like that. Throw him into the sacred realm where time is fucky. Something.
>Dark link just looks like a TP interloperkek>>750975706Especially considering how flat and boring the temples are in TP, SS too. The Ice Mansion and Ship in SS were ok though.
>Dark Link doesn't fall through the floor like a creepy apparition >You have to go to the door to fight him, ruining the surprise of him completelyThat last point is ... fucking baffling. Just lazy.
>>750956193a good remake would've made the moblins proper fights with better AI and more complex location. instead, they seem to be even dumber than in the original: the player is running around right behind them and they don't turn around. he hasn't aggro'd a single one
>>750955201Literally a lower score than BotW, proving its a worse game by any objective metric.>But it invented Z-targeting!Be real anon, how much score is that worth? 1 point? 5 points? It never deserved that 100.
the BotW-style item carousel and single item button have GOT to fucking go, especially if they mean to do a Majora's Mask remake with this as a groundwork. I'm shocked that open world design ISN'T the last remaining bastion of BotW game design contagion that I'd be begging to see removed
>>750976685that ui is so soulless
Morpha - MASSIVE improvement.That boss was cancer in OoT and nobody liked it. Press S to spit on OoT Morpha.Fuck that boss in the original. The spikes got it stuck and it was just far too easy.And it just didn't work in the orig.
>>750976973I don't disagree, but the sad thing is that it's somehow far and away the least soulless of the Zelda UIs we've seen in the past decade.
Post nuZeldas feet please
>>750976973It's a bit boring and generic ay.Seems like indie games are the only ones that do this well.
>>750972990yeah, like gold skulltula tokens, you have to actually aim at those now too, cry about it retard
>>750955854Were those reviewed by the same person?
>>750960797It's because the remake has a weaker color palette. It all looks sandy. All the stone is light grey, the grass is yellowed, and even the buildings lost that vibrant red.
>>750977280took a lot of player autonomy from the forest temple
Realistically speaking, when will I be able to play this on PC?
>>750977386just wait until you see the water temple
>>750977174And no one cares and you are the only one pretending it somehow matters because you are coping.>wtf game that inventes z-targeting uses z-targeting
>>750977478water temple is poorly designed, hopefully they fix ed it
>>750974513God what a sexy taint
>>750956193already well known, you now automaticaly block while targeting, your sidehops have iframes and a bunch of enemies only do half damage now including stalfos. stalfos are a bit more active but, in combination with the fact that most gamers played like a million action games since 1998, this doesn't make up for it at all and it's simply too easy and wasted potential
>there's no Zora King kiss if you already have the tunicThis is the sloppiest remake I've ever seen. If you're gonna remove shit like this, at least give us new little things instead.
>>750977494good luck with the keese now, you dumb retard lol
>>750977615do they even still exist? haven't seen them so far
>>750964160>Some>SOMENigger 90% of the games models, characters, and environment is lifted directly from Ocarina of Time. It unironically has a smaller % of unique new character and enemy models than TotK does.
>>750977410Honestly? Don't waste your time.
>3D video games were perfected instantly and will be continually remade until the end of timehumbling thought
>>750977676Stop splitting hairs over the wording retard, you know what I meant.>environmentOr maybe you're just that retarded.
>>750956193the block pushing puzzle, probably the low point of the forest temple because it's a bit pointless, remains unchanged. couldn't even bother adding the second block from master quest which at least makes it possible to mess up a little
>>750977870Not a coincidence Nintendo showed the entire dungeon a few weeks ago except for this segment lol
>>750977740I don't know enough about how clouds are formed to dispute this
>>750955201Zora kings kiss also got cut
>>750956732looks like my grandma's tablecloth instead of a web
>>750956193remake adds an elevator right before the twisty corridor which is completely idiotic as farore's wind existsthis only does 2 things1: have to think less and feel less satisfaction beating the game2: make farore's wind even less useful
>>750977740The fact that they pushed for DRM instead of quality suggests that Nintendo will NEVER make anything good again. Their priorities are not designed for or conducive to making good games.They are merely a supply of liquidity to financial intermediaries. All AAA games corps are this. I think it's time they die. All of them.
>>750977870Strange, every Nintensnoy hated the original for having those yellow arrows on the floor. Why are they still present here?
>>750977921Tard, this part was in preview footage
>>750978063Good question, why keep that detail in if they fucked with literally every other detail in the game?
>>750978034farore's wind's only purpose in Oot is to skip water temple keys >>750977478
>>750978141no it has several nice uses, you just replied to a post with a room where it's useful
>>750978257>he doesn't know>he lacks critical information
>>750956193already well known but the wallmasters have a disco light now that also flashes red when they attack and you can wiggle out if they grab you
Gonna play on pc
>>750955201Video games are at the point were the men, thats right men, who created the amazing games of old no longer exist. They have either passed from this realm or retired. Remakes, Remasters, Recomp, Recycles from now and forever. The only games teens and kids play now are whatever tiktok, twitch or youtube tell them to play. Thats it, either make your own games or play the slop.
>>750956193not only did they replace a big hole in the center with relatively harmless green acid, there is also way more walkable space now
>>750956193reduced the carousel room to a simple "shoot through flame" puzzle. this sucks not only because it makes the puzzle easier and less interesting and fun (especially with manual jumping this could be fun), but it also robs the forest temple of some of its macabre funhouse storytelling
>>750956193light shafts now make it obivous where the safe squares are and moved all the skulltula shadows to the white squares to see them easier (3ds remaster was already guilty of that)
>>750964996>The only thing MM does better than OoT is sidequests.Does it though? The main quest is so short and easy that all the optional masks are pointless.>play MM for that cool Fierce Deity form>realize you have to 100% the game to get it and that it's completely pointlessEpona alone is a better sidequest than everything in MM combined.
>>750960182Obviously. This OoT remake isn't a heartfelt remake, just part of a series of N64 and GC remakes Nintendo is planning.
>>750956193remake removes the timer for the jigsaw puzzle and thereby any sense of stakes. actually just a waste of time now
>>750956193iirc another new shortcut to make farore's wind less useful and falling down less punishing
>>750966050dude, you could do this in the original game in the start menu wtf.
>>750979176Wow, really? That was one of my favorite parts.
>>750962637I have the same excuse. I wanted to play it for myself but it's just too damn easy for me to even be excited for. I don't think there's legitimately anything for me to experience.
>>750966396correct
>>750979323Are you drunkposting?
Can someone remind me if nu Star Fox dumbed down certain portions of its gameplay like this? I'd be amazed if, despite the artstyle, it's somehow more faithful than fucking OOT.
>>750970523>It's not aged nearly as bad as OoT and games are literally trying to rip it off to this dayI played SoH last year, it was my first time playing OoT. Game still holds up and is an easy 9/10 if not 10/10. Very few games have its attention to detail. I'm 33 btw.
>>750962637>dad grew up with the original>dad grew up in 1998>dad was ~10 years old in 1998>there are literal 12 year olds posting on /v/ in 2026>these are the people who hate oot remake
>>750956193phantom ganon is still just a quick tennis match, the player, who clearly knows the original, doesn't get hit oncethe original was a bit clunky, ran at 20 fps and was the first game of its kind many people played and almost everyone knows it today. it's ridiculous how the remake barely switches things up
It's a masterpiece, there's no other way around it.The copy i had as a kid couldn't save data so i never got past the second dungeon, but i decided to finally play it on emulator a couple of years ago and it was as good as everyone said
this was the only good update in the remake
>>750979441no I'm answering the fella who stated there is no point in memorizing the songs because you can just look them up. You could always just look them up and they've never been more than like, 6 notes max.
>>750979796Using the start menu for the iron boots is the end of the world for you shitposters though. Make up your minds
>>750955302I prefer Majora, but it has several hurdles that you have to get over in order to love it. It's a great game where I also completely understand those who don't enjoy it. The lower dungeon count is also a genuine knock against it compared to Ocarina, especially when only one of them is truly spectacular. Ocarina of Time is just a more balanced and easier to digest game, so that's why it will always be the more popular one.
>>750956193no longer have to search for big poes and memorize their locations; there is unmissable purple paint now. not an awful change but also not great
>>750956193another horrible case of turning an organic environmental puzzle into a generic "shoot the target" puzzle. for some reason nintendo really wanted to make this 2026 game less realistic than an n64 game
>>750980765and no that's not the hookshot cursor, it really is glowing like that
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>>750980765It's ironic that the same crowd of nu-nintendo fans will praise this change, when they despised the original OOT for, and I quote, "having too many braindead puzzles".
>>750968572>>750968351KEEEK
>Hyrule>HighguardEpic reference
Is there anything actually wrong with the remake over than the less diegetic puzzles and mediocre as expected voice acting? Other criticisms I've seen seem mostly like either nitpicks or disappointment over an already not hard game being made slightly easier.
>>750956193un-hid the eye switch in this room, which completely defeats the purpose of the puzzle. also made the stone bridge wider, though I'd be shocked if you could even still fall all the way down to floor 1a good remake would've made the stone bridge way harder to walk on and hide the eye switch so you can only see it from the bridge
>>750981061What's right about it? It does nothing to improve the base game, other than pandering to retards who want graphics and more cutscenes.
>>750981176The real puzzle was the changes they made along the way
>>750981061>an already not hard game being made slightly easier.Sounds like a big problem given they should've made it much harder after 30 Zelda and Souls games in the last 30 years and given Master Quest is a thing. Also shit like this >>750980765 making the game more formulaic and the total lack of new content.
>>750981061>an already not hard game being made slightly easierit's not about challenge, it's about friction
>>750981176Could’ve warped the terrain a bit to explain why the eye button is positioned so high up there, like the area had been reshaped by an eruption.
>>750970983RIP Nintendo Studios
>>750955201this only confirms that nintendofags are retards and should play more games
>>750981182>What's right about it?They don't have an answer, which is why they deflect to "but it wasn't hard to begin with." They don't want to think about it.
>>750981061This >>750957579 >>750959067 alone is already like a big stinky poop smear.
>>750978853at least you have to actually hit the switch now
>>750981752Zelda isn't Call of Duty, you need to come up with a better cope.
>>750979306farore's wind's only purpose in Oot is to skip water temple keys
>>750981176This sucks because puzzles like this in the original OoT is what got kids used to navigating and surveying their surroundings in 3D space. Nintendo was helping people get used to the new dimension in gaming. Now these skills don't even matter because any slight inconvenience is seen as bad game design in 2026.
>>750981752And how hard is that? It's a static, unmoving eyeswitch, in a room with no obstacles or enemies or anything that would make shooting it harder.I'm sorry, didn't we already progress past that level of puzzle design about an hour earlier, in the deku tree?
>>750981061>remake>less diagetic Confirmed for having not played it.
>>750981752not hitting the switch with n64 controls and 20 fps is still harder than hitting the switch in the remake
>>750981176they hid the eye switch in spirit temple, that makes up for this
>>750981783look who's coping, anon, you have to actually hit it now.>>750981820as hard as the original where you can freely miss, and you get a participation trophy anyway. lol>>750981839not really, because you have to actually hit it, TWICE.
>>750980765>>750977280>>750959067>>750957579What's Nintendo's obsession with making everything formulaic? Aonuma? Was Twilight Princess already like this and I just never noticed?
>>750981728>>750972907
>>750981929>as hard as the originalSo they didn't take any opportunity to fix this.
>>750981964Still not a shooter and the aiming isn't part of the puzzle but just the execution which is supposd to be smooth. Come up with a better cope.
>>750981929>not reallyyes really. first person feels like controlling a tank in the og and it's intentionally inverted as well. it's almost like bow in old monster hunter versus bow in new monster hunteryou even have gyro aiming now. you are really just shooting yourself in the foot with this argumentation
>>750971984And there're even a few benefits to doing so, like getting the cane from the 7th dungeon first so you can go to the 6th dungeon and bypass the long looping puzzle that normally requires you to push a block down holes through several rooms.
>>750982082>you even have gyro aiming now. you are really just shooting yourself in the foot with this argumentationKek
>>750982082>you even have gyro aiming now. you are really just shooting yourself in the foot with this argumentationHe could try shooting himself in the foot, he'd probably miss.
>>750982040you right, the switch should activate just by looking at the sum bitch
Volvagia's animations are PS2 tier. Wtf were they doing? It should be the most kino fight
>>750982082ah yes, gyro aim, that means you dont actually have to aim and shoot the switch this time around
>>750981943TP has platforming made of flashing QTEs.
>>750972907the game was better when Navi flatly spelled out the puzzle, and you didn't need to aim btw.
>>750979551It had basically the same design I'm pretty sure
wow a boring remake made for idiots of the most lauded game in history is well received by critics
wow a highbrow remake made for connoisseurs of the best game 30 years ago is high effort and beloved
>>750982287no it just means that aiming is easier than ever before on top of being a casualized puzzle
>>750963423>Cultural marxists lost today.You lost America last night kek
>>750982519easy =//= bad, it just means it requires less effortand the puzzle hasn't been rendered any less difficult so why your crying?
>>750979764The only "improvement" is making Great Fairies cost rupees. A lazy way to give rupees more purpose, but at least it's something. Could've added something new instead of charging for what was free before.
puzzles are only good if you get stumped for days and have to buy a strategy guide, no game is good btw.
>>750982579>and the puzzle hasn't been rendered any less difficultif you live in copesville and deny reality
>>750982632You would have cried about every little change they made.
>>7509670461:28:02Is the singer a little off-sync with the instruments to anyone else?
>>750982686>literally just praised a changeNot if they aren't shitty. Sadly most of them are. Now stop spamming, Ahmed.
>>750982683the puzzle is deducing what you need to shoot an arrow through the fire to hit the eye (didn't even need to hit it originally, other anon is right, din's fire will work even) if we were being honest with each other, then the original flatout gave the puzzle away when you walk into the room and the platforms are spinning with the ice switch clearly in view of the torch. in the remake you enter a room with a torch and the eye switch is above in an alcove. you do the math
>>750982241The Switch is activated by pressing the power button on the top of the console
>>750982741>the puzzle is deducing what you need to shoot an arrow through the fire to hit the eyewhich is objectively harder to deduce when you have more informationt o decipher and an entire carousel instead of just a target and a flame in a narrow corridor designed around an arrow's trajectory. you have to aim (which is harder), time your shot and do a bit of fun platformingbefore you shitpost with "nooo, all of this is actually easier than just a flame and a target :)", they could've kept the original concept and made it harder with faster flames, smaller platforms, a wackier design, etc. instead, they stripped it down to the bare minimumit's not just a puzzle either. it's visual storytelling that adds to the mansion's funhouse/oddball collector vibeyou have nothing
they massacred this game worse than the 3DS versions.
>>750960404>Fine, they had to make room for a new jump button, I get it,They really didn't though. They could have make a new Roc's feather item and kept the extra button.
>>750956193maybe the most peculiar casualization so far
>>750965107They are duty bound to live in the sacred realm. Not dead. The game establishes this extremely clearly.
>>750983415Sounds like a boring fate, I'd probably wish for death
>>750983032We must apologize to the 3DS port...
>>750960763>They can't even set flags right.Please tell me your joking anon
oot doesn't need a jump button
>>750983346They probably couldn't get the physics to work.
>>750968182Ok, get this. The original game has fucking MAP MARKERS showing you the general location of your next possible dungeon.
They just removed the shark and didn't even add any other funny replacement huh?
>>750983606You're probably right anon. Its also why the hookshot not has specific targets everywhere because its baby easy guard rail for bad developers.
>>750983612This was before Skyrim, the qest markers in OoT weren't idiot proof, they'd highlight multiple locations at once and leave you to make sense of it
>>750983346I can't believe I was about to spend $70 on a game that can't even offer me a basic sense of adventure. This was literally made as a millennial cash grab why is the game just the exact same but with even less for me to do?
>>750971984Somewhat. You can't get to Dark World Dungeon 2 without the Magic Hammer from Dungeon 1. Pretty sure you also need the Hook Shot from 2 to get to 3, and the Fire Rod from 3 to complete 5 and 7.
>>750974467>the story implication of her infiltrating ganondorf/gerudos after her sheikah trainingWhy are mangafags like this? The manga contains tons of stupid nonsense that just doesn't fit into the game at all.
>>750983909Sheik was also explicitly a man in the manga but you won't hear these people talk about that because of woke or whatever.
>>750976685Making the maze section an actually hand built structure is a good choice and makes more sense than the original.
People really call Nintendo games made for babies when they have PT level horror like this
>>750955384what is this image even trying to convey, that MM has better and more unique enemy design? kill yourself
>>750980765So they made the environment look drastically more realistic visually just to ruin the connection between the player and the environment with shit like this?
>>750983415>The game establishes this extremely clearly.Where?
>>750981883They removed the beamos at the top of the shifting wall room.
>>750980370>not an awful changeThat is a genuinely awful change. The whole point is that you want to actually explore the field on horseback to find them.
>>750983346I hope you make these into a series of macros.
>>750983979>Sheik was also explicitly a man in the mangaThis is one thing I'd say is actually arguably canon in the original game and Sheik and Zelda being the bodies of different people absolutely fits in with everything that happens better than the idea that Sheik is just dressed up Zelda.
>>750956193another unique interaciton replaced with a generic target
>>750984303I agree. Sheik being a mere disguise in this game is another dumb and safe decision that removes the weirdness the original had.
>>750983979>>750983909>Sheik was also explicitly a man in the mangastop retardpostingmanga > your shitmake
>>750983998>removed all the blood>skin now looks like bandages or an xxl shirtPathetic.
>>750984343You're doing god's work, make sure to compile all of these at some point
just tell me if they massacred the forest or shadow temple so I know whether I’m buying it
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>>7509844943rd party writing should never be considered canon.
Biggron sword looks retarded now.
>>750979618his dad could have been a tremendous retard like me and my wife. we're 35. our kids are 19.
>>750972663based
>>750983691try again.
>>750983998Still looks like his skin is rotting off, not sure what the issue is.
>>750985327Skin doesn’t hang in folds like curtains.
>>750983998soulless. the creepiness of the original is the slow pace of dead hand’s movement while you’re held still. all the combat I’ve seen feels rushed and arcadey
>>750983346How the fuck do they add a jump button to the game and then REMOVE puzzles that require jumping?
>>750960797>>750980765>>750981176>>750983346I really hate how in the remake everything on screen is just various shades of the same one color. Modern devs can't do lightning. Or they just choose not to, for some reason.
>>750984615Shadow doesn't have entire floors or walls made of skulls. The loose skulls and bones seem missing too. At least some of the puzzles are babbified. The music is only a bit worse than the original.
>>750985612I'm looking at this game and already struggling to enjoy it, not even factoring how gutted the sound design must be and that was my favorite part of the game by far.
Weebfags how is the Japanese dub?
lol it really is just fart gas hell now with removed reflections
>>750985724I do not want hear any tendies or nintendo executives cry when we rightfully use AI to improve the game because game devs can't do their fucking jobs anymore
>>750985724this is because they only use screen space reflections, so they can't hide the reflection from link. all they had to do was use planar reflections, which are expensive, but would only be in an empty room, which they could then switch off as soon as you walk past the tree. but this would require not having 40,000 ai jeets make your game.
>>750985724I'm sure this game looks better in motion but how does this game manage to be so much worse at being able to sit still and appreciate the environments?
>>750985724They obviously had a meeting where they decided the theme was going to be>gloomier than OoT64and the implementation of that was adding a fuckton of dust or fog to every environment
>>750956732Yeah that was so lame. Breaking the web is like everyone's core memory of playing the game as a kid and it's so sudden and uneventful in the remake.
Did they add a new meme downfall timeline ending?
>>750956193some of the water temple casualizations
>>750987690Bottom right is brutal. Mogged by an N64 game.
anyone else get crashes after a few minutes of game play
>>750983346KEK, Nintendo made their own Wolverine game.
>>750987690Casuals and shitposters always blame the iron boots, so why tf did they change half the dungeon too
probably continuing in another threadarchive:https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/750955201/#750956732
>>750987690>all slingshot/bow targets MUST be eyeballs>all hookshot targets MUST be the square target thing>all bomb-able walls MUST look exactly the sameThis is so ass.
>>750987690whats the purpose of walls you can bomb when they are obvious?
>>750988245Please make a compilation when you're done
