https://www.gamesradar.com/games/steam-is-derelict-of-its-duty-says-ex-square-enix-exec-as-valve-struggles-with-game-approvals-everything-for-gabens-navy/>In a post on Steam, Valve acknowledges current delays around game approvals and says it's working on ways to speed things up. "We're running a little behind right now and taking up to 12 business days," the company says (https://steamcommunity.com/groups/steamworks/announcements/detail/696528162820984746)>Jacob Navok, former executive at Square Enix, responded to this news on Twitter: >Jacob: "Steam generates 3x the revenue of Roblox while Roblox has up to 1000x more games released per day than Steam," he says. "Yet Roblox games release in seconds via an automated review system and Steam takes weeks."https://x.com/JNavok/status/2117777591201411428>"Roblox has invested billions into app review process. They have spent a lot of money on R&D and AI systems that analyze and detect problematic content, and also have appeal systems.">"Valve takes 30% from you as a developer but has spent nothing to invest into the systems required to handle content reviews. Absolutely shameful.">"Poor Valve, it only generates $20bn a year with 5 people working there," he quips. "The money has to be spent on so many boats they cannot afford to hire a sixth reviewer. "Everything for gaben's navy."https://x.com/JNavok/status/2118295180566515723https://x.com/JNavok/status/2117932036136583247>More serious is his stance on Valve's resources: "It should invest into proper tooling and humans to do reviews at scale.">Navok points to Roblox's AI-assisted detection systems for mature or problematic content, but - again - the context is fundamentally different because it's one company monitoring assets it has control over, not the same sort of open market. The complexity and variance of the games under review is incomparable.
What's with the constant focus on the boats? It's always the boats getting brought up.
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>>751020496Because it's an easy attack against Valve despite Valve not being the ones buying them
>>751020268Pretty ballsy for the child grooming platform to bring more attention to itself
Then maybe they should make their own PC storefront :)
>>751020496Because Gabe knows what is coming with (((ai))) and is creating a way for Steam to be hosted out on open waters to avoid the laws of countries. Either that or Gabe just likes to have boats.
>>751020268
>>751020268Better to give 20 billion dollars to someone who changes his vision for the game every time he does cocaine, resulting in zero net progress over 10 yearsWait OOOPS
>>751020268Is Sweeney paying these people to constantly bring up Gabes boats and Yachts and "muh 30%" because this is straight out of his playbook
im having a blast on my boat. sorry about not reviewing your crap t. Gabe
Square Enix consistently puts out some of the sloppiest PC ports of any major publisher. Maybe fix your shit if you don’t want approval to take so long?
>>751021194No the guy sells AI tools so he jerks off Timmy.Funny how he targets Steam for 30% but jerks off Roblox that take such more.
>>751020268Why doesn't Valve simply use AI to speed up approvals?
>>751020268>ex Square Enix execHis opinion should be discarded on that basis alone.>Valve only has six people doing reviewsHow the fuck would he know what Valve's internal processes are or how many people are on their review team?Valve Derangement Syndrome might actually be a thing, or maybe Timdog kissed this guy and infected him somehow.>muh boatsOh, he's just retarded. Maybe he's one of the anti-Valve posters that shows up in threads here.
devs>cry how Roblox is full of thieves spamming out AI-generated clones of games and Roblox should have a system to review/curate contentpublishers>cry how Valve is too slow in approving games because the review/curator system is bogged down by AI generated games being spammed out by thieveswell well well i might not be a BIG CITY AI GAME DEVELOPER like Tim Sweeny but seems to me that AI generated games are the problem
>>751020268>former executive at Square Enix>global business development and the cloud gaming divisionOh just a random clueless suit
yeah wonder why its so fucking slow nowadays what could possibly be the cause
>>751020496He won a case against the Rothschilds and they are NOT gonna let that shit go. All the attacks on Gabe started right after that and from complete hypocrites. Reminder the guy bitching about the boats here is a corporate executive.>tldr it's the jews
>>751020268A SE executive really shouldn't be throwing stones.
incase youre wondering, yes he does run an AI slop SaaS "company"they all do
>>751021302right? the fucking audacity for this guy to be talking shit.
>>751021478It's extra funny because of all the problems EGS has, unreleased games clogging up their review process isn't one them
>>751021478Read >>751021612He will never say AI is a problem
>>751021738>mobileslop>flop>tv show tie in game>Murdered Soul Suspectfucking LOL, what a loser
>>751021905undercooked, put that shit back in the oven.
>>751021905Early life intensifies
>>751020968Gabe has had a yacht since he worked at Microsoft, a small one but still. He just likes boats.>>751020496They try to make it sound like he’s an opulent rich bastard who just buys a bunch of expensive things to show off. But the ocean has been one of Gabe’s genuine interests since he was young. The money just helps him explore it.
oh I see Roblox is a game store now
>>751020268Instead hiring more people Valve should put everything with AI in it at backburner and if you try to cheat it's ding dong bannu.Alternatively or better additionally, increase the admission price for AI games to $10k, but you'll get it back after you sell 10k copies.From my perspective as a consume and small dev this would be reasonable.
>mfw funding gaben's navyI'd rather fund that than another jew warhttps://youtu.be/VY0ey0mukIY?si=vqOqv0KmVoAPTpAD
>>751020268>Navok points to Roblox's AI-assisted detection systems for mature or problematic content,Is he a computer illiterate retard? That's not exactly possible for Valve to be able to do with PC games.
>>751021905cool it, anon
>>751022101>Alternatively or better additionally, increase the admission price for AI games to $10k, but you'll get it back after you sell 10k copies.lower it to $500-$1k for every game and im onboard
>>751021905Oy vey
>>751020268>ex
The review process and the one nigger who hates Japan that works there is an actual complaint we've had for years
>>751021905The Rothschilds aren't even being subtle
>>751020496He likes to keep a relatively low profile, but obviously stuff like buying companies is going to become public knowledge
>>751021194I think they're frustrated that they can't spy on him on his yacht. It's such a common thing with rich people to spend money on boats, but they keep bringing it up, like they want to taunt him to abandon that lifestyle or spend more time on land.
>>751020268He's right about their review process, add the fact that they have schizo standards that change on a whim.
>>751021589>leave my heckin favorite billionaire pedophile ALONE>h-he's under attack by... OTHER BILLIONAIRE PEDOPHILES
>>751020268Steam is exactly the kind of company that massively benefits from AI, yet they are so libshitted now that they're very slow to adopt it.
>>751020496Gabe bought a yacht company; Oceanco.
why is muh yachts the only thing these people can ever come up with
>>751020268>ex-Square Enix execstopped reading there
>>751020496because he was buying so many superjumboyachts with indie dev's $100 submission fees that it was cheaper to buy the megayacht building company
>>751020268Simply curb the sloptide.
>>751024064Because they have nothing else to try to insult Steam over. Don't forget that a lot of these faggots hate Valve because of stuff like Steamcharts data, which betrays their flop games.
Ad hominems and conspiracy theories. Steamfags are something else. That being said, Square-Enix is a shitty company too.
>>751020268>ex-square enix execThis man's opinion is worth less than the dirt in my garden.
>>751020496>Be Gabe>Make massive boat fleet>Luxury yacht companies try to fuck you on maintenance >Open your own yacht luxury business to do maintenance Everyone mad at Gabe is mad that he will just make a better business and win. He wins by simply existing and not penny crunching as hard as others.
It's pretty funny that they can't actually address the issue that the problem is vibe-coded slop spam, since undoubtedly this retard has investments in it.
>>751020268Then when SE has games approved they do retarded shit like make nier automata 360gb for no reason
>>751024185Is there any evidence of valve actively and maliciously using their influence to impair other storefronts from succeeding? The last lawsuit I heard about was over lootboxes.
>>751024229That's basically the same reason why Amazon built their own logistics system. They were getting fucked over by the usual carrier companies and said fuck you, we'll build our own.
>>751020268>Roblox has up to 1000x more games released per day than Steam," he says. "Yet Roblox games release in seconds via an automated review system and Steam takes weeks."Yeah and Roblox let pirated versions of Left 4 Dead 2 and a bunch of other games get uploaded to its servers without issueThey're still up btw but they're now "invite only"
>noooo you can't just stay a small private company you have to hire 1 billion pajeetswhy are they like this
>>751023851>leave my heckin favorite billionaire pedophile ALONE>h-he's under attack by... OTHER BILLIONAIRE PEDOPHILES
>>751020268They could literally just release on gog instead of whining.
>>751020496Das Goyim aren't supposed to have boats
>>751021905
>Navok points to Roblox's AI-assisted detection systems for mature or problematic contentIs he claiming those actually work?
>>751020496They hate that he keeps winning and exploring the ocean
squeenix has got to fire their entire american branch
>>751020268Did Gaben beat another Rothschild in court? They usually not shitting that much on him.
>>751020268>12 daysWho gives a shit? Especially if you're a massive developer like Square Enix, as if you didn't know or have this shit prepared for release months in advance.
>>751024514Sweeney had a recent flare of up being jealous I guess, so there was a small bump in the number of anti-Valve tweets, which journo cocksuckers turn into articles for clickbait.
>>751023851>he's rich therefore he's a sexual pervertBut you are a leftist, shown by your jealousy, and you love defending sexual perversions like homosexuality, why do you use sexual perversion as a baseless attack?
>>751020496Noseberg has to latch on to one "offensive to poors" topic so that the "cattle" would be angrier and more in favor of hating steamWhen you realize the goal is to demonize the only platform that isn't 100% jewish and publically traded, you understand why they keep attacking steam so vehemently.These people only complain for that reason and that reason only.All that 30% cut whiningAll that Yacht cryingAll that AI disclosure opposingAll that porngame highlightingAll that lootbox / gambling / marketplace screechingALL OF IT - ALL of it exists for the sole purpose of tarnishing Steam's reputationThe industry cannot stand competition that (((they))) don't own or control.If these people truly cared about what they keep talking about, we'd already have competitor platform that did all of the things they accuse steam of not doing, while providing equal or better service.The fact that we don't have one, means they simply want to diminish steam to the point of making the obviously shittier, sketchier and more evil alternatives seem better in comparison, but they're all just so fucking bad that if anyone's going to be forced to use DRM, they'd obviously pick steam for being the only one that offers moderate benefits.I'm not even a steam fanboy, I simply recognize that it is the only DRM that justifies itself to some degree, as practically NO OTHER does
>>751021658considering EGS hasn't added unreal tournament to their store yet I'm guessing they must be backed up too
>>751024627I'm honestly surprised they haven't just assassinated him and replaced him yet.
>>751021905Look at this dysgenic rat faced fuck. It wants to make you want to grab a .357 right into this fucking inferior dome.
>>751024836That's why he's unreachable on the high seas.
>>751024836Maybe they can't,it's possible that steams inner circle is all familiar with the tactics and plans of the enemy, which means they'd literally have to kill off everyone who could possibly inherit the business & it's responsibilities, and in the event when none remain, the platform would just be scattered in to the wind I guess.In that scenario, they wouldn't be able to profit off it either, so I'm thinking they simply want to slowly erode the defenses until it's possible to "take over" (either via buying them out or sending snakes in steam's building to preferrably obtain high postitions for enough leverage)
>>751024461Of course he does, he runs an AI based company so he would never slander it.
Steam is literally just a private small business and this makes (((corpos))) seeth endlessly.
>>751020496Because Steam isn't publicly traded and still makes billions of dollars every year. As soon as Gaben sells out, the boats will never come up again and he will be just another nameless CEO that people aren't allowed to talk about.
>>751025240Oops I meant Valve, not Steam
Does that mean Valve refuses to hire brown reviewers?
>>751020268An exec at SE shouldn't be talking shit about anyone. They should focus on getting their company out of the gutter first. They literally haven't had a hit mainline Final Fantasy title in over 20 years.
>>751020496See this? These are metal nodules, basically rock formations of different metals at the bottom of the oceam, they've been there for millions of years oxidating and reacting to the open ocean, nothing special. Until people started noticing that they attracted specific species of coral and sponges, why? Because right in 2018 scientists discovered that they produced Oxygen, like, A FUCKTON of oxygen. Maybe less than algae, possibly more than trees, but definitely a valuable amount. "Dark Oxygen" is the biggest breakthrough of the last dacades, not AI, not space exploration, billionaires are rushing to know what people can do with such resource and what we can do with it. Ocean exploration is where the money will be, maybe even more than oil. Gabe's ships have labs, no man invested more in oceanographic than he did in lately, that's his plan
>>751021290i believe thisbased gabe
>>751020496Gayben floating around in international waters with a private fleet makes him harder to suicide without taking on collateral damage.
The exec is a giant mongoloid but there's one truth to that is Valve refuses to hire more people for some reason if they did their games would get updated more often then *cough* TF2.
>>751020268>ex SE>WhitoidRUMAO
>>751026037>you will live to see metered oxygen in your lifetimeJust like RAM we need to be more efficient with our oxygen reserves.
>>751020268this is based it stops people shitting out ai slop games
>>751020268where can I sign up for GabeN's navy? I can be a security detail on his ship.
>>751021371Because then you get malware dumpster fires and 'games' that are nothing but predatory skinner boxes which double as hangouts for pedophiles to groom children unmonitered. You know- that *other* problem Roblox has been having...
>>751020496Imagine being a pajeet swimming in a river filled with corpses and shit, you'd obsess over others having boats too.
I legitimately hope Gaben buys another 3 yatchs at this point
The more people you hire, the more chances you let in some trojan horse faggot who will start rotting things from the inside (ex. every single modern game company). Gaben knows this, and thus has no incentive to divert boat funds to hiring potentially dangerous new employees wantonly.
>>751020764>Valve not being the ones buying themit's money generated by valve, of which goes towards gabe's very generous salary.gabe buys up real estate in new zealand, owns mutliple multi-million dollar homes, and a fleet of yachts.the issue is that a lot of this money comes from the exorbitant 30% cut on his platform, when it could instead be reinvested directly into the games industry by funding smallscale projects (like what sweeney does with epic).
>>751024003It was a political statement. Oceanco is most well-known in boating circles for having built the fastest sailing yacht in the world. Which of course, they named The Black Pearl.It's a fucking piracy joke.
>>751020496tl;dr, envy. That's really all it is
>>751026524>exorbitant 30% cut
>>751026524I'm not a blithering communist so I don't care if a guy gets filthy rich because his product is the best on the market
>>751020268>Square Enix>A company famous for it's terrible decision making>A company who in modern times still takes exclusivity bribes>A company who is even called Square Enix today because of one such titanic mistake>Someone who was a shot caller at said company thinking he has any grounds to attack anyone elsereally? i'm not even mad this is just funny
>>751026631only time I side with commies on anti-monopoly is when it affects humans in general as a whole like Nvidia, Sam Altman and the stupid shit with AI.
>>751020268>>Jacob: "Steam generates 3x the revenue of Roblox while Roblox has up to 1000x more games released per day than Steam," he says. "Yet Roblox games release in seconds via an automated review system and Steam takes weeks."Gee, maybe one should consider that the automatic review system is letting not only children's work that is next to nothing through but also AI, copypaste, derivative and other slop through at astonishing rates to flood the "market". This isn't black or white.
>>751026508Gayben knows about the public trading menace and his antics.
>>751026760it's not a monopolyyou don't know what the definition of a monopoly is because you are a communist or an Indian
>>751026524>when it could instead be reinvested directly into the games industry by funding smallscale projects (like what sweeney does with epic)Valve already invests back into the games industry by funding BIG-scale projects. Proton is the most famous one, but they donate money and development capacity to a fuckton of other projects as well- it's just done quietly behind closed doors so as to not rock the boat on the normal goings-on and let the recipients of these donations quietly continue their good work.Or if you believe in tinfoil-hattery: because Valve has been quietly preparing a complete and comprehensive exit-strategy from Windows and Intel-Aviv for literal decades.
>>751020496you dont think its noteworthy for a whale to own so many boats?
>>751026304As was foretold.
>>751026524>Gabe shows up a few times on NZ boomer media >nobody knows who the fuck he is>disappears into the ocean and is never seen againLel those few interviews he had with those morons on the telling gave him enough incentive to spend that time elsewhere. On the bright side Peter Thiel owns land down there now.
>>751026760Steam is literally just a storefront (with community features) that doesn't fuck the consumer in the ass, anyone anywhere can compete with it if they so wanted to not fuck the consumer in the ass, unfortunately that's the main thing these other competitors and companies want to do, fuck you in the ass.
>>751026976>Don't mind me just pirating your air
>>751027032>refuse to fuck your customer in the ass>money stolenThe Ford vs Dodge Brothers case and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.
>>751022031Tell me about Gabe. Why does he like the ocean?
>>751020268Why is this guy pointing to Roblox as a better system than manual reviews? Roblox has a shit ton of pedophile content being pushed on kids.
>>751020268>They have spent a lot of money on R&D and AI systems that analyze and detect problematic content, and also have appeal systemsSays about the game for literal under 12yo children that has an official dating app within the game that underage children can freely join.Literally what the fuck is this nigger even saying about roblox of all companies?He could've have said something about sony, MS or nintendo, but we all know for a fact that they're probably much much worse than valve, and since they're a monopoly and you have to cave to whatever they want, nobody says shit about them.Plus, fucking automated processes are garbage to find shit wrong with applications and games, and you just can't implement a set of testings that'd be able to test every single thing wrong in something that doesn't have a predefined template that every single of the variations follow exactly.
>>751020496Because all the money valve makes goes towards them, Gabe takes 30% of every game and spends it all on yachts kek.
>>751020496its literally the only negative thing EGS shills can stick to valve that has any semblance of traction and it essentially boils down to “successful billionaire with a good product spends his money how he wants”
>>751027280And to think if Timmy was at the helm he'd blow his cut on AI, trees and Popeyes. The greed of the merchant classes is insatiable.
>>751020268Just ban AI submissions. That’ll cut the workload instantly.
>>751020268How come only Japanese games are being throttled by Valve's ministry of truth?
>>751026837>implies something I didn't write down there.holy fuck get reading comprehension first ESL bitch. I'm not your boogeyman.
>>751027389They fear doing so because all AAA games now use some AI, especially chink gamesEven if it would only benefit organic devs and customer choice, they still don't want to do it because they know it would cut in to their profits as AI is a disgusting label as it's automatically associated with slop
>>751027269People like him only use Roblox in a positive light since they are more accepting of AI slop, and since he runs an AI based company he thinks it's a win in favor of him.People like him only target Steam since they want them to tell people what they used AI for and he can't have that.
>>751020268This faggot has a picture of an Emmy he won for Silent Hill Ascendance as his profile background. Might as well just have text saying "retard" instead.
>>751020496Jealous they can't afford their own boats
>>751027786It was mind boggling how proud he was of that trash game? show? when it was airing
>>751020268He is right, Valve makes (literal) boatloads of money out of Steam and the people retarded enough to buy lootboxes from their games. There is no excuse why they couldn't hire more people to help with that, or with the supply chain for their hardware, or to maintain their games
>>751020268I mean he does have a point. Valve is cheap as fuck. They were not willing to store a large supply of steam controllers to make sure they had enough for everyone who wanted one. They were not willing to buy more sever hardware to have a more beefier AI anti-cheat for CS2 and now the the game is riddled with closet cheaters. They insist on artificial scarcity and lottery systems for cosmetics in their games because it is supposed to help fund development for their games even though they make tons of profit through their store.Valve in some ways are a bunch of cheap bastards.
>>751028056>make something that the people want without being incentivized to fuck them in the ass at shareholder request>this is considered a successful business model in 2026
>>751028252Then why can't Valve hire more people?
>>751028252believe it or not. shareholders are retarded.but can you blame them. every other type of cunstomer is even worse at least the "le gaymers" as a majority don't accept jew tactics that easily
>>751028316because just throwing more people at a problem is how you get a company with 3000 employees that collecitvely know how to do fuck allwhy rush to hire people when your opponents are constantly shooting themselves in the head
>>751021905I'm noooticing
>>751026631You're instead a blithering cuckold. So brave!
>>751028316why would they. is not a solution. they could just ask more money to put your game in the store and that alone will filter out most of the slop that doesn't make money. also you could limit the amount of game submissions so they can't farm that easily.also bad devs that blatantly slop games after a previous one has the same concept specially a greenlighed one.
>>751028406I don't care how bad their competition is because I don't use it, what I care for is for Valve's specific problems that stem from the fact that they're cheap bastards who earn boatloads of money but can't be assed to hire anyone to deal with the fact that every single game of theirs is overflowing with cheaters and bots
>>751020268>Yet Roblox games release in seconds via an automated review systemThis has to be ironic, right?
>>751020268Why should I care how many boats gabe buys? I'd rather all billionaires just bought boats instead of lobbying politicians for isr*el and subverting nations to take in infinity "migrants">>751021905Just look at this guy, you know he's up to some nefarious shit
>>751020268What's up with so many people contracting Valve Derangement Syndrome lately?
>>751021905Didn't need the pic. Wouldn't have even needed the name.
>>751028620you ignored the part where just hiring random people nosedives the quality of the product in the first place“lol just hire more people bro” is dogshit advice
>>751028774No company should be blindly worshipped. Not even valve.
>>751028774AIbros are upset Valve makes them disclose AI usage which hurts their business model
>>751028862I agree, but between Tim Sweeney, like a half dozen other Epic Games employees and this guy, people have been getting really mad over Valve lately.
I've been apart of a small game dev group and I can confirm that for our game they alone had>1 playthrough tester (played the game for an X amount of hours to make sure the game was actually in a playable state)>1 system engineer who buttfucked the .exe through reverse engineering (he pointed out an engine issue that didn't happen on our systems and gave us a guideline on how to fix it in pseudocode)and one other mystery person who used the same pseudoname but wrote completely differentlyI can get hiring more playtesters but if they have dedicated reverse engineering codemonkeys to make sure that the game isn't a payload for superAIDS and even something as irrelevant as our little game got their attention, odds are you can't just scoop an infinity of them out of the blueand you especially can't match the amount you'd need to speed this up in comparison what the AI churned out nightmare is creating
>>751020268I wonder why he lost his job
>>751028828I ignored it because that's stupid, makes no sense, and is the worst excuse for Valve being cheap that I've ever heard
>>751020268Anybody defending their review process is a shill. Almost every dev complains about it because it's not transparent, not consistent, and generally takes a long time.
>>751020268G-gaybenbros what is happening? It's like the blue tsunami is sweeping our monopoly cult up too.
>>751021905OY FUCKING VEY
>>751020496They don't want a based Aryan White Chud/Chad to find Hyperborea/Avalon/Thule before they do.
>>751029047probably why you don’t own the entire PC gaming market and 10 yatchs then
>>751026524Fuck off, timmy.
>>751029047>makes no sense
>>751021490>cloud gaming divisionthis nigger should be skinned and made into tefillin leather for lower level kikes as punishment
>>751029153No, no, I'm just the sucker who bought into the idea that Valve would maintain their own games
>>751028828Bootlicker dumbass never heard of the interview process or taking referrals
>>751021905jew
>>751028976>some guy is playing thru all the guttertrash tier aislop>even the turboslop that's too shit to publishgrimI bet that guy hates video games
>>751021905Never trust a man with his eyes too close together. He will seek to supplant you.
Why are all the people mad at Steam lately just some of the most abhorrent fucking mouthbreathers?I don't want to notice it but you can't help but do.
>>751026524>exorbitant 30% cutTim, the 30% cut has been standard in retail for more than half a century and in tech for twenty years.
>>751021905This is the face of a serial killer or a guy who murders his wife and children and hides them in his backyard
>>751028316Because Valve has people smart enough to know that the fastest way to tank your company, aside from going public, is to rapidly hire people because it dilutes your culture, lets in bad apples, and fucks everything up.
>>751029416Tim takes a 50% cut.
why do you fags give niggers like this attentionjust endless amount of xhitter premium jews ragebaiting for attention so they can get their elonbux
>>751021738>"dev"What a joke
Jarvis consult the early life section.
>>751029413jealousy never breeds beautiful people
>>751029468Well I'm sorry that I don't think their wholesome chungus "let's not maintain our multiplayer games or keep a supply chain tee hee" culture is worth keeping
Good, i hope gabe keeps buying more boats until the rest of his natural life, and then ghost boats for the rest of his eternal undeath.
>>751020496they're seething that they aren't gabe
>>751023917in what way?
>>751028927""""people""""
>>751029651I hope YOU end up buying a boat
>>751020496>leave the billionaire alone
>>751029089The game review process was fine when I last went through it, but I won't say the same of their Content Survey review process. That felt like arbitrary bullshit.
>>751029506Why are you so antiseptic?
>>751026524>the issue is that a lot of this money comes from the exorbitant 30% cut on his platformThis sounds like a lot until you look up how it used to be pre-digital distribution. As a game developer the studio/publisher had to deal with:>paying CD producers to burn massive amounts of discs and label them>paying box/case manufacturers to print/make/assemble your game boxes/cases>paying printing companies to print your game manual>dealing with hundreds or even thousands of retail stores across north america and agreeing to a retail profit cut % on all sales for each store, and complying with all local and federal laws in each case which took hired lawyer and retail sales specialistsAnd probably a lot more. I doubt after all of that the total cut into the developer was less than 30%.Steam allows developers to bypass most of the pre-digital bullshit and 30% seems not too bad. I'm also guessing that high-selling bigger developers negotiate and re-negotiate all the time and might pay even less than 30% if they consistently generate high throughput.Steam/Valve also has to add and maintain server infrastructure all the time which can't be cheap either.
>>751026371I agree with your opinion, but you talk like you came straight from reddit. Get the fuck out normalfag
>>751028976LLM's are already getting kneecapped, and it will get worse as the bubble goes since they will have to up the prices.Not to mention they said they will add filters to the AIslopThis flood won't last long.
>>751029515
>>751029494That's just for MTX currency in Fortnite. EGS' store fees are something like 20% that gets lower (to 15%?) if you make a lot of money. It's one of the only things Tim can legitimately say they have over Valve.
>>751029397I wonder how much he chargers per hour of life lost on that trash.
>>751029763I HAD a boat.It was quite shit and i only bought because i lived on a flooding zone.
>>751029886Clearly not enough with how bad the sloptide is getting.
Democrats will be taking their cut of Gabe's wealth
>>751029820I remember one interview that gabe said steam is the 4th largest bandwidth user in the world.
>>751029883>EGS' store fees are something like 20% that gets lower (to 15%?) if you make a lot of money.Its just 12%You get 100% for your first million and if you do their first run program which is 6 month exclusivity.
>>751029891Oh yeah? WELL I HOPE YOU END UP WITH ANOTHER ONE, A BIGGER ONE MADE OUT OF ALUMINUM AND WITH A TURBOJET
>>751020268literally who
>>751029651>Gayben will become a space ghost pirate who trolls the jews across the seven seas in this life and the nextLudo
>>751030001Off by one, that means NO boat.
>>751030025FUCKK
>>751029996Oh wow, I forgot it was that low.It says a lot about EGS that even with something that's less than half of what Steam takes, nobody gives a fuck and still doesn't put their games on EGS lmao
>>751024318the wolfire lawsuit is still ongoingthey turned it into a class action to try to get some other parties on board but no one took the bait
>>751030058turns out 12% of $0 is still $0
>>751020496what I think is interesting about valve is that not one of these guys has any leaverage to talk shit about it, everything bad that valve does that can be argued against it, is always done worst by the other companies that want to attack it, no company has any position to attack Valve, at all, and so Valve doesn't even need to respond and it wins by doing absolutely nothing because it just doesn't have tothey bring up the boats because it's really the only thing that's public about gaben and that can be seen as greedy or whateverGaben is the only public figure at valve, no one's talking on social media, no one's going on podcasts, no one even knows names of Valve's people, even Gaben only says like 2 sentences every couple of years
>>751030131TIMMMMMYOU PROMISED MY GAME WOULD SELLTHAT I WOULD MAKE MONEY AND-AGGGHHHHH!
>>751030058The cut hardly matters when virtually no one gives a shit to buy it.People just go there for Fortnite, Rocket League and free games
>>751024514they hold a grudgewe're still being acted upon in name of a 3000 year old blood feud
>>751020268why is it that the only people criticizing valve are people i have zero respect for?
>>751028620I dont know how, maybe its the years ive spent over on this website, but the way you talk, makes it so obvious you get paid for these posts.Like frankly Im going to close this thread in a second because, so you dont have to bother replying and can move to another anon who might fall for your bs, but theres nothing in this world that will turn me against Valve. Ive been with their games since 2015, Ive made friends, Ive had fun, Ive spent way too much money on their platform on games that I never played, and frankly its because they're just a plain good company to make business with, even if that business is satisfying my own retardedness by burning money.So I just want you to know that I want you to kill yourself, because I would never take liking to a company that would ever prioritise the well being of the seller, rather than the buyer.Retarded Nigger Faggot
>>751021905N O T I C E DOTICED
never forget, the fat kike is on the epsteinlist hes being pushed here to brainwash you
