Everyone went back to FFXIV after realizing they were kidding themselves that blizz could make anything good

>>751037790
People who were waiting for the game to come out are playing it. The only people making threads are the obsessed boomers that quit somewhere between warlords and BfA that still have a wierd hateboner for classic

>>751037790
INV ASMON LAYER

Blizztrannies are gullible retards, but it turns out that even they smelt the dogshit this time.

nigger gta 6 is dropping next week, there's a reason everybody delayed their releases because of it

>>751037790
>sharded to oblivion
>nobody talking
>horde unavailable on pvp
>barely any new content

I wonder why

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>no high elves
>ugly lighting and models
>removed boob physics
>censored paintings and Daisy
>drag queen goblins
>sharding
Forever is streamer/indian slop and you're an idiot if you fell for it.

This sharding and layering business is annoying.

>SoD added content to discover
>Forever adds nothing but a handful of quests and shitty dungeons

hyperspawning is annoying as fuck. Every humanoid mob camp is a hellscape where shit respawns so fast that the last enemy you killed is back before the one you're fighting now dies

>>751038850
its baffling to me how theres like 0 carryover from SoD... Why? Wasnt the hold fucking point of SoD to test shit for an eventual classic+ release? Its fucking retarded how much more content SoD fucking had meanwhile, only thing we got from it is... a fucking sleeping back? Wthat the fuck is their thought process

>>751037790
I'm too busy playing to glaze it, pservercuck. Shouldn't you invest in your character that will vanish forever in 3 months on whatever flavor of the month private server just popped up?

>>751038928
>Wthat the fuck is their thought process
"Retards will buy it no matter what, just throw some bullshit together who cares *goes home from work and doesn't think about wow or play video games*"

>>751038928
Yeah the lack of SoD kills it for me.

>>751038989
but thats what is annoying. SoD was actually good, or at least had some good ideas. So they CAN actually make decent shit still if they try. But for some reason, they decided to learn literally nothing from that whole experience? Genuinely baffling

>>751039041
The people working on forever probably never played SoD and have no idea what it had and don't care what it had.

>>751038736
i miss this mentally ill troon spam posting his retarded rp bullshit in the troondle threads
btw hc paladin doesn't and never counted on that shitty server given how hilariously broken niggerdins were. you'd have to be a retard to ever die once on that class

>>751038647
You're retarded
>ummm yeah I'm just gonna stare at a wall until gta6 comes out, can't possibly do anything at all before then

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>>751039325
You've never done HC or S&S or Exhaustion, stay mad.

>>751039404
no, but why would i pay extra 15 euros for a whole month of wow(>subscrition for a game in 2026 lmao) when i wont be playing it for a week at most

>>751038928
soddy was blizzard (wrongfully) thinking that people wanted retail injected in to vanilla. it was analogous to instant max level 3rdie 255lv private servers and had no staying power. big surprise when it stopped receiving fresh content it died, whereas era, also receiving no new content, is still chugging along with a dedicated playerbase. forever is a more subdued attempt, however they have made some egregiously stupid decisions along the way such as the whole layering/sharting thing, dungeon xp nerfs, baffling class changes etc. to the point where it feels more like retail minus than classic plus

>>751039432
i did it on classes that counted (which aren't fagadins lel)
stay dial8ing

>>751039509
>also receiving no new content, is still chugging along with a dedicated playerbase.
Classic survives entirely on fresh servers. SoD lasted for 2 years and added more original content than Forever has.

>>751039592
then how do you explain era still having enough players for multiple raids daily?
>muh gdkp
there are raids and guilds that don't run gdkp on era in 2026. could it be because vanilla is just that good?

>>751039652
>then how do you explain era still having enough players for multiple raids daily?
I told you, it survives entirely on fresh servers

>>751037790
Its kind of ironic after the amount of shill threads forever got how many people I actually see in game. How much did blizz pay to cultivate fake hype for the game?
>b-but its just the layers
Its not. Even in my own circle of friends about 40% of them from beta haven't even started seemingly have a foot out the door already

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>>751039592
all 3 of these servers have no fresh content. only sod is dead on its fucking ass because its SHIT

>>751037790
Hype will return next Monday when DSP starts playing

>>751037790
It's still fucking WoW and WoW is total shit.

we really needed another world of trannycraft forevergoy general in the catalog

>>751039738
Worst most blatant viral marketing campaign here since Borderlands 1

>>751039738
At this point I'm convinced that 80% of the accounts in the beta were actual bots made by blizz. Because that level of engagement with forever is not matching the release or even close.

Even on day 1 I had to log out to do something for several hours and came back 5-6 hours after launch and there was no queue.

>>751039745
lmao you know all those "players" are bots right?

>>751037790
OLYMPUS GUILD JUST BROKE 20K MEMBERS!

>>751040158
>>751040158
Heckin based.

>>751039463
You're so fucking jewish

>>751040997
nah, i reckon supporting fucking shitzzard in 2026 is the more israeli-coded option, cuckold

>>751037790
>tranny colours
they know their fanbase

>>751037790
im literally ingame having a blast, keep seething

>>751037790
I’m playing genshin impact

First time player. Just did the first dungeon in Iron Forge. As soon as we killed the final boss, I felt all the energy get sucked out of my body. It was like "This is the game, huh?" This game wasn't for me, I don't feel like I wasted my time but I also don't want to invest any more into it. I wanted to PvP badly but I don't think I can stomach the PvE to get to that point.

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>>751037790
the game is really annoying to play

>>751044229
w-what happens in wow 2?!?

>>751037790
It's just more fucking Wow, what is there to get excited about?

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Well aion 2 has me entertained for tits and ass until vindictus defying fate. Not sure why anyone would play a 20 year old mmo.

>>751044451
this was fun until the energy and drop rates and excessive cash grabbing

>>751037790
is retail minus already dying?

>>751037790
I'm having a blast.

>>751044639
>blast

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>>751044451
I liked the Aion 2 leveling experience more than this
Game falls apart at endgame, but before that it was kino

>>751037790
Because we're all playing the game man. This is the first time I've touched a web browser in over 24hours.

>>751037790
>Ascension and TurtleWoW died for this

Very fucking grim

>>751044878
No one cares fag

>>751044765
>newfag

>>751045440
>retard

>>751044878
Ascension was so fucking good. It had so many ways of playing the game.
Love bosses? Speed running? Challenge modes? PvP? Can play the game purely in those ways. It was genuinely everything I wanted out of WoW as an MMO.

>>751045992
I miss Venomancer. That class was way too fun in way too many ways.

>>751038647
Imagine playing niggerslop ball and gun games
Oh wait ur skin is black

>>751039803
I will say that wow in 2004-2008 was peak gaming. IF you were in a raid guild and had a bunch of friends playing. Other than that, it’s not a bad game at its core but it does not have the best gameplay of all time like people claim
Just because the combat is solid doesn’t make it the best game ever. The raiding is what made it the best game ever.
If you think doing quests 24/7 and collecting bear testicles is peak gaming then go for it

>>751037790
>Why are people playing the game instead of posting about it on /v/?

>>751044802
Hadala a cute

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>>751039509
Spot on.

>>751045553
>not blasting
Ick

>>751037790
who wants to play the same game 4 times in a row knowing it's going to be ruined with updates?

>>751037790
game's like empty, no one talks no one visible. coupling that with the little retail things like the blue elves and the shop yeah. it's just not there for me I'm afraid, uninstalled. didn't lose anything as I got free days from a friend

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I'm playing RP-PvP for the first time (first time on any RP server) and it has been amusing so far. I'm doing a very light roleplay where I'm an orc hunter who speaks in the 3rd person and acts a little stupid, and my pet is my character's name with one letter changed. I've had some good interactions.

>>751048448
Fag

>>751049896
why are you being mean

So is it like the beta where you pretty much have to be in the mom-bomber's guild in order to not be constantly harrassed or

>>751049985
Asmongold's guild is primarily on the PvE (normal) server. He plans to expand to the standard PvP server as well, but chances are it won't be nearly as big. He has said he does not intend to go to either RP server.

>>751048448
I met troll speaking with "troll speech" way adding "mon" after his sentences and he called me a cowlady pretty fun little interactions I hope the servers stays this way

>>751050417
I've seen tons of those guys.

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It's just not very fun.
Blizzard is making sweeping tuning adjustments every other day. Almost all of the "new abilities" are just renamed WotLK skills to trick newfags into thinking they invented them.
They did the retail thing of adding a bunch of new reputations to slowly grind to exalted over a month of dailies for a mediocre epic armor piece and an outdated crafting pattern.
Because camps now give an XP buff and certain foods give an extra 5% XP buff, they have turned down mob kills to compensate for all this busy prep work every 20 minutes.
The new zones are incredibly empty and boring, with Hyjal just being daily rep grinding for the raid.
Dungeons have zero point after the first run, so people are just not bothering to stick together after the final boss drops dead.
Retailfags think everything is for them so every minute someone is asking if mounts are at 10 or 20, and why they can't portal around the world.
Class scaling is an absolute mess because they put all of the power onto the gear and not the class. You have a pet Imp hitting for 3 damage. Voidwalkers having a quarter of the health of the warlock. Talents are as untineresting as ever with flat percent buffs to damage or crit chance, the just combined half of the together is all.

It's not interesting, creative, or particularly fun.
So it's definitely a modern Blizzard product.

>>751049918
Because I'm not a fag

>>751051000
you're a meanie

It doesn't matter what Blizzard does with any projects from here on out. They could make the perfect MMO with everything the exact way I wanted it, and the people I'm forced to play with would still ruin it. Some faggot named Mommypanties is always going to be saying gogogo in chat during a dungeon, people are always going to openly talk about porn and fetishes in guild while also openly talking about being mid-30s fathers. Any conversation not pertaining to porn, the newest Star Wars trash, or a recent AAA video game will die immediately, often ignored. People are not the same anymore. Last time I tried to play, a guy repeatedly brought up wanting his wife to cuck him because it would "be funny". He'd do this a couple of times a day, every few hours, and then complain about the game being too easy. I get that everyone thinks I was supposed to evolve into a goonden retard too, but I didn't.

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>>751051019
Yeah they could be pedos and right fucking assholes too.

It's no maplestory

>>751037790
hype?

>>751051019
and you're a fag

>>751051459
you're mean

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>>751037790
>take a cool game
>make it fake and gay
Who was even excited for this? People blindly following streamers? Blizzdrones protecting it like it's their izzat?

>>751050027
>He plans to expand to the standard PvP server
Half the players in his guild wont even be playing anymore in 3 months what makes him think that he'll be able to expand?

>>751051778
are you sure

>>751051223
I don't remember any of this being the case in 2006 when we were all actual teenagers. It's interesting how the average WoW player seems to have regressed with age.

>>751049985
I picked RP server. It’s kind of funny actually

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>>751047818
>a potential future version of classic
they really are just planning on slapping vanilla in the microwave every 2 years huh?

>>751048448
wtf, is this real?

>>751053045
yeah you can tell because of the pixels

>>751052930
The post is from 2024. He was referring to WoW:F.
But yes. They will slop vanilla in the microwave every 2 years, you can bet on that.

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>>751053668
>#fewerchanges
>forever

>>751037790
The product was the $60 dollar beta and they got shitloads of money. They don’t profit from the actual release.

>>751053845
>not profiting from making a free 15mil+ a month for a few months

>>751038928
>theres like 0 carryover from SoD
But there is carryover from SoD. Sleeping bags are in, for example.

>>751053845
>pretending most players didn't cause australian food waste instead
nobody's falling for your smoke and mirrors, blizzjeet

>>751053864
People who play this after beta are the same paypigs that play retail and classic/classic era

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I completely missed the launch kek
Oh well, for the better I guess

>>751037790
Did they add a Looking For Group tab for WoW Forever?

>>751054002
I can literally name over 20 people I personally know who are playing right now that play neither. There's more people playing forever than retail and I guarantee it.

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>initial zones are already empty
holy kek

>>751054040
You really didn't miss too much, they prepped well and it was almost flawless.

>>751054553
Yeah, they need to tweak the numbers back. They overtuned for the launch so everyone got in smoothly, but now that its not that type of congestion it's too sparse and worse than the beta by a lot.

>layers are pure schizo air fighting now

>>751038928
Hahahahhaha sod was literal retail slop and classic forever is also retail slop just a bit less. Kill yourself

>>751037790
They killed my class (warlock) in the last patch so now I'm back to retail until they fix it

>>751054604
nope
Game is literally dead. There's no way every other layer is 100/100 and the game had to put me on a 1/100

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>>751037840
I'll go back to FFXIV once they decide to release content more than once every 5 months (and when Evercold drops)

>>751037790
Looks like floaters.

>>751054681
Lol, nah. I've been on an empty layer where literally XR was empty (this was like 45 mins ago) and I hit refresh because world was gonna refresh in 10 mins and I popped into a fully busy XR with a campfire goin and people chillin in front of me.

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>no graphic upgrade
>still the same boring tab combat
>same boring quest with disgusting abyssal drop rate (like WHY?)
>gameplay is literally press 1 and 2

PC niggers will tell you, you're not allowed to ask for better stuff

>>751054860
>no graphic upgrade
Lmao, are you a bot? What a fuckin retard.
>still the same boring tab combat
why would a rerelease of a game completely change the game to another game?

>>751054207
no that's retail shit

>>751054860
>the game everyone likes is still the game everyone likes
yea they should have ruined it further

>>751054674
how about inventing a cryptocurrency
skelly.png

>>751054925
>Lmao, are you a bot? What a fuckin retard.
it looks like the 2004 game, troon
>why would a rerelease of a game completely change the game to another game?
because I already played this game 3 times now, it's boring you have literally zero standards, video games get better but PC nigs literally want to play the same shit from their childhood because you're stuck somewhere in the past.

>>751054674
>Back to retail
Fate worse than death; I'm so sorry.

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>>751037790
EU servers are dead empty, the layering puts me toegther with maybe 4 other people and as soon as i enter a city its me alone and for some reason the chat is english but nobody is talking english.

>>751055219
Where are you from? I start to think they layer per country because I only see people from my country.

>>751037790
Almost as if no one actually wants to pay to play this trash

>>751037790
it was clear from the beginning, this isn't classic+
retards are now finding out

>>751055245
thats how its supposed to work, and it did for me for an hour or so but after that it got fucked.
i put it so im only grouped with germans the first time i logged in everything was fine, the second time i was almost alone. the english chat channel in the city doesnt make sense either when im playing on german. but no one is speaking german OR english so i dont know what the fuck is going on. i heard they put EU servers on maintenance so maybe if i get on later today its fixed? if it stays that way im out

>>751055219
the sharding is fucked.
you can sometimes see quest area pockets where you suddenly see a gorillion players.
then you move an inch away and they all disappear.

>>751054992
>console games
>getting better
lmao

>>751055479
https://youtu.be/M1DfD7B5oUM?t=183
yes sorry
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/UW_FydGkWbQ?t=4&feature=share

Blizzard lost all their talent, that's why they resell you the same game again and again now.

>>751055525
>ugly ass dumbed down censored basedmake
OoT was raped mega hard.

the weirdest part is that when you do end up in some area that isnt heavily sharded it seems like the players do not fully exist in your plane of existence. they are physically there and you can buff/heal them, but they do not see your mobs and you do not see theirs.

>>751055562
https://youtu.be/3_dgpHg3S8E?t=19
>defending this
OoT looks as good as the RE2 remake now you can seethe more, but that's the truth. Meanwhile, WoW just got a filter over it and the trannies at Blizzard called it a day and went back to dilating their axe wound.

>>751055615
OoT basedmake looks worse than the original.

>>751055615
>retards celebrating and screaming that blizzard is inventing stuff right and left
Good fucking lord

>>751055675
LOL

>>751055687
>that blizzard is inventing stuff right and left
Yes they were at one point, look at SC1, WC2 and WC3 even WoW was so much better than every other mmo. They just stopped because they hired only troon faggots.

>>751055717
>SC1, WC2 and WC3 even WoW was so much better than every other mmo
Then you realize how many years ago it was

>>751055675
You faggots can cry at the ugly noses all you want, yes they look like shit, otherwise it looks great, fucking beautiful even

>>751054553
>that name

>>751055769
>Then you realize how many years ago it was

Yes, it's called decline. Outside of Rockstar, there isn't a single good Western video game company left.

>>751055771
kys

>>751055435
>horde durator
>doign the centaur low level quests
>walk into about 30 horde asking how long it takes for the respawn
>i guess on MY shard no one is doing it
>grab quest and escort while they all whine when is respawn

>>751055615
Better lighting but tons of gas everywhere. Maybe the gas could work sometimes when mist is needed but it looks so bad when it's everywhere.

>>751054207
Yeah they added it because retoilet babies kept complaining that it was too much work to message people

>>751055960
modern devs love gas so much

Cheap PR:
>1000+ new quests
>new zones and dungeons
>nerfs to make leveling more meaningful
>horizontal progression

Reality:
>literally didn't encounter any new quests, and if i did they are few and some are certainly just not memorable
>most new dungeons are literally either open area (Excavation is just the same place basically but instanced, it was probably created in an hour or two of dev time) or bland dark underground corridor (also obviously cheap work), and new zone - Riverglade - i've seen no one doing anything there, because everyone are doing AoE spam with layering abuse
>everyone are doing AoE spam with layering abuse
>Surely they won't lie about horizontal progression.

It's spectacular how bad Blizzard at making their own Classic+. There is not much that makes it different from the same 2019 Classic, a lot of changes in fact make it even worse. But it doenst feel like a fresh new experience, at all.
Turtle and CoA did it much better.
Hell, SoD did it much better.

p.s. and i am not even talking about layering that made it feel like single player experience on dead private server.

>>751055957
I was stuck in a shart where an escort wasnt spawning and then a button popped up to resync/load the world and suddenly it was there.
Its a mess.

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>>751056073
if feels like they would need several launches of this type to actually gather up enough significant changes to make it truly worthwhile.

I bet they are scared of touching the old quests because everybody whined about the cataclysm, but if you leave them as they are everybody will just stick to what they know.
Now that I brought up Cataclysm it made me realize how much of a colossal effort it was compared to this.

as is I dont think that "classic but 2% different" is convincing. I dont know what endgame they have planned but that will probably be the opportunity to change things the most.

>>751056238
>if feels like they would need several launches of this type to actually gather up enough significant changes to make it truly worthwhile.
…what SoD was

>>751056293
I didnt follow SoD at all.
Did they discard all the content and changes from that going into forever?

>>751037790
What are you talking about? I can't get a fucking tag because there's fucking elves everywhere

>>751037790
>hype already died
Proof?
>"um... the proof is that I'm a private server tranny that's seething because my server got shut down... and I hope making these threads kills the game somehow... ;__;..."
oh ok, lmao!

>>751046219
It is a bad game at it's core.

>>751055717
Blizzard went to shit long before that my little newfag

>>751055186
>capped xp
NOT ON YOUR LIFE NIGGA. I AINT NO CAPPEDKEK

>>751056316
>Did they discard all the content and changes from that going into forever?
Yes, not a single thing was brought over. Shaman, Warlock, Rogue tanks? Gone. Multiple play styles per spec? Gone.

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>>751037790
IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE LIKE IT WAS 20 YEARS AGO

WHY IS IT DIFFERENT NOW

>>751044451
jiggle status?

>>751038736
/thread

No shit, it's still 99% vanilla you already played in 2004, just saiyan

>>751056293
SoD already did it, but it was a temp server so nobody cared

More importantly we have over 20 years of WoW and like 30 years of MMOs in general to learn from, we dont need more trial and error. Its utterly fucking insane that we have both devs and players still debating the hyrbrid tax and saying things like "well if hybrids can do equal dps nobody will play pures" as if we dont have 20 fucking years of retail raiding to prove the opposite

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>>751059628
You will never be rid of retards like that as long as the name WoW is on the cover.
When you have an audience that claims that literally everything the game originally had was good and that anything that cannot be refuted with kneejerk arguments is at best a chesterton fence that will totally lead the game to becoming a shadowlands tier atrocity instantly why bother at all?
Just wipe the servers and sell classic again.

Of course the greatest irony here is that these diehards act extremely hypocritical the way they accept some extreme changes, but then whine if you say that something else might be a better solution.
The mob tagging/sharding discourse is a perfect example of it.
Shared mob tagging outside of a group is absolutely haram because its supposedly so anti social but at the same time they are willing to accept excessive sharding that completely rapes the idea of an mmo being about a world where people coexist all at the same time so now everybody is questing in their own separate instance where you dont even see players to potentially party with.
Its nonsensical.

>>751059628
>>751060409
just go play retail ffs

>>751060608
I wont play any of this garbage.