yeah why?
>>751055195A corollary to "extreme".
Before then, video games simply lacked the technology to create ANY beaches (mostly because of water)>Source: Myself
>>751055276>Before then, video games simply lacked the technology to create ANY beaches (mostly because of water)This but unironically
>>751055195it's empty and pretty
Beaches were super fucking great back then (no browns or niggers) and were a huge passtime of many, and once games cracked the code for water physics they just went crazy with water everywhere
>>751055195why can't anyone ever actually answer the question? the subject is tropical beaches
>>751055195It was a different timeA better time really
>>751055195Large bodies of water help show off rendering for cheap
>>751055195Because UUUUUUUUUUUUUUH PA PA!UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUH PA PA!UUUUUUUUUUUUUUH PA PA PAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAHHHH...
>>751055195Hollywood influence
>>751055195It's what many Japanese beaches look like.
>>751055195peak comfy
>>751055195sovl
>>751055996Da sounds of da future.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFkceXQFUEs
>>751055195You want to know why? the real why?Here the reason: It's because japanese love to go to Hawaï for vacation, and most of those franchise that got popular (sonic, mario, final fantasy etc...) usually do some traveling to take photo and more before working on a new world for a new game, so why not doing both?
>>751055195>yeah why?having good looking water was one of the main graphical goals at the time.
of course the anti ai pso troon is online
>>751055657This movie was so fucking bad
Because that's what the world looked like back then? Before microplastics, heavy metals, pfas, mercury, fake sugar, global warming, estrogen, and chemtrails changed the colors? I showed a zoomer what how blue the sky used to look like and he started crying
>>751056105>taking a nap in tikal
>>751056105>Hawaï for>Posts a bunch of shit from latin americaAlso SA1 took heavy inspiration from mesoamerican shit not polynesian.
>>751056456sonic no.... not her
>>7510562762000s were not before any of that. It's not that lon ago.
>>751055195It was a beautiful time
>>751055195people say technology but even the gameboy has water fever. its odd because they all did it about at the same time too completely uncoordinated so it wasn't like one game suddenly inspired them into all doing it
>>751055195I remember launching mario sunshine for the first time and literally getting headaches and then vomitting from the too vibrant colors. Never played a mario after that.
>>751056501you are fucking retarded, I took that one example for SA1 regarding mystic ruin, but if you did make some research you would have realized that it was quite usual for those studios to do this, and yes, hawai was used for that.>vagrant storyI heard you also took a trip to France to do research and get ideas. That must have been very helpful for creating a more realistic world.Yoshida: Matsuno wanted “ruins”. His image was of a town that was falling apart, already half-crumbled. So we took our cameras in hand, and just wandered around the streets in France. Leá Monde was modeled after Saint-Émilion, a city in Southern France
>>751056105And now it's 2026, and young Japanese people are too frightened to travel abroad (see the Nippon Foundation's 2025 survey) because:a) they've been brainwashed into thinking that everywhere outside Japan is extremely dangerous and only Japan is "safe";b) they've been duped into thinking that experiencing things vicariously through TikTok and other social media platforms is just as good as experiencing new places firsthand, completely robbing them of any yearning for what's over the horizon; andc) they're too poor to travel overseas even if they want to, thanks to 35 years of virtually stagnant wages, a weakening yen, and massive inflation in overseas markets.Did you know that the average income in Japan (¥4.8 million per year) is now lower than what a full-time Walmart greeter earns in a flyover state like Illinois (¥4.93 million per year)?Anyway, that's part of the reason why Japanese games rarely feature wonderful, cheerful tropical places anymore. They're too destitute to go there, have been brainwashed into thinking that "there" is scary and going there will get you killed, and have deluded themselves into thinking that the "there" on their smartphone is just as good. t. knower and teacher
>>751056635t. the creator of anti soul fog
>>751056515>>751056456>Looking up Amy's skirt around the age my pingas was starting to tingas
Everything was perfect in the 90's / 2000's. Shame it couldn't last
>>751056719They would be correct, european cities are now filled with dangerous drug addicted immigrants who just want to steal, try going to brussels, paris or any other shithole and see the truth for yourself. It's a damn shame but God must hate civilization or something
>>751056719To be frank, they are not entirely wrong about "it's unsafe somewhere else". Here where I live, asian tourist (chinese/korean/japanese) are prime target because they usually don't fight back or know or talk english properly so the Police will not help them.As for the average income, yes, it's bad, but it's bad for everyone now, including Europe, USA is a bit of an exception.But overall, I do agree with you, the modern japanese guy doesn't have that flame or ferocity than those old japanese men did have, they lost their "souls".
>>751055195Many games were JapaneseJapan has a lot of coastlineA flight down to Okinawa for the weekend was like $40
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>>751056719>everywhere outside Japan is extremely dangerous and only Japan is "safe";based and true
>>751057086Good addition.
>>751055195faggots, that's why. literally just faggots
>>751055195Sonic Adventure didn't have a tropical beach aesthetic, it just had its first level on one.
It was the aesthetic back then.Back when technology and the internet were this awesome futuristic things not when it was a scrolling horror show ala black mirror
>>751055631GO EASY ON ME
>Sonic Adventure didn't have a tropical beach aesthetic
>>751057649>It was the aesthetic back thenno it wasn't, that aesthetic came after
>>751055195We must go back
>>751055195Tropical beaches are typically on islands. And islands are a good spot for the protagonist to start a journey. The isolation explains why they don't know much of the world so the player can find out along with them.
>>751057676https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSc0R_K4TVcNow that's some good tropical beach music
>>751056983>the modern japanese guy doesn't have that flame or ferocity than those old japanese men did have, they lost their "souls".It was really saddening to learn that people like the Like a Dragon cast and hot blooded GARmen like Kamina used to actually exist in Japan, and now they’re all just sissified otaku fags and wagebugs
>>751056921>>751056983Maybe you feel that way about where you live. However, most types of violent crime (homicide, robbery, auto theft, etc.) were much more prevalent in the '90s, when the visual language of Japanese pop culture expressed an idealized vision of the outside world as an embodiment of freedom, discovery and possibility. So, the two trends aren't moving in the same direction, see?As a whole, the Japanese mindset has shifted from international curiosity and expanding personal horizons (1970s - 2000s) to one in which nearly half their youth have adopted a fearful, inward-looking, almost hikikomori-ish lifestyle (2010s-2020s). And I think it has less to do with actual safety and more to do with a kind of collectively acquired learned helplessness caused by decades of depravation: can't afford to go to Hawaii, can't afford to send your kids to the school they want to go to, work culture sucks just as much as it did when things were good, taxes are getting real bad, and the general feeling that your prospects won't get better no matter how much you work.
>>751055560>>751056569It's specifically when the graphics and processing got good enough to do realistic water with polygons, prior to that you either got chunky textures with clumsy waves superimposed or they just went with pre-renders to do it.
>>751057779joke on you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAxgIoHIxug
>>751057845I really don’t believe this rhetoric that times are “good” now and the days we yearn for were actually shitty. It reeks of Enlightenment misinformation to insist the new zeitgeist is simply better than what came before. I would gladly live in the era of crack babies and urban decay because I’m a straight white man and I know none of that will effect me.
>>751056719>I am not free>But I am retardedYes
>>751055195frutiger aero or at least the dawn of it
>>751058125No this was Y2K, Frutiger Aero was Vista
>>751057841technology was a mistake>>751057845you are looking a bit too far into this.everything you said also match everywhere in the planet, it's just multiplied by 10 in japan because japanese people love the technology (in the philosophical form), exactly like koreans and soon chinese.>>751057872not even, because if it was the case, the PC/western games would have followed too (cf, they didn't).You could make excellent "beach" visuals already on previous hardware (psx/saturn/n64).
>>751058081Sorry, I don't know what to tell you. I just wrote two effortposts explaining why things are very not "good" in Japan. The only thing I disagreed with was your reasoning for why, which I pointed out was fundamentally flawed and completely at odds with reality. You're trying to turn a discussion about Japan's economic stagnation, declining international aspirations and changing cultural attitudes into an argument about American racial politics. That's a completely different discussion, I couldn't give less of a shit about it, and it's entirely off-topic for this thread.
>>751058264I cannot help it. I have lived here for many, many years now, and I cannot return to non-monke, even if I wanted.
>>751055276What about Majora’s Mask, a 5th gen game?
>>751055195>Graphical hardware inches forward enough to make water that doesn't obviously tile unless viewed at extreme angles and distancesThat's basically it.
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>>751055195I got annoyed enough at seeing this indian xshitter millennial bait so hee is an actual answer:During the 2000s the japense salarymen were allwoed to have 1 holiday in their life and at the time "le BEEEACH DUUUUDE" was advertised to any retard. Every mouthbreatehr flew to a shitty tourist hotel to look at the blue sea from a shitty pool and then the dead inside salarymen put that into a videogame.
>>751055195The true question is why are they so uncommon in 20's games.
>>751055657For me, it's Blue Crush
4chan "japan experts" strike againyou just know you're about to read some retarded infantilizing bullshit when people start typing out these paragraphs
>>751056719>brainwashed into thinking that everywhere outside Japan is extremely dangerousIt's not everywhere, but it's definitely much worse than it was. Especially in certain cities in Europe or 'MurrigaCan't blame someone for thinking like this. What's the point in visiting Paris and running into a bunch of sandniggers? Nobody wants to see that. Just live in your fantasy of what it once was
>>751055195fuitnigger aero, which was the style at the time
>>751060750I find it funny that there is a named syndrome very specifically for Japanese people going to Paris and being monumentally disappointed.
>>751055195Back then going to the beach was fun.Then niggers realized they could lay around the beach without needed to know how to swim.Now every beach is covered in trash and niggers so no more vibrant beach optimism in vidya.
>>751056719>brainwashed into thinking that everywhere outside Japan is extremely dangerous and only Japan is "safe"Have you seen France? That might as well be true.
>>751056719>they've been brainwashed into thinking that everywhere outside Japan is extremely dangerous and only Japan is "safe";Now that this is actually true, will the beach aesthetic make a comeback?
>>751055195we need to go back
>>751056921romania is way worse
>>751064272we really didn't know how good we had it in the early 2000s
>>751056840sonic character feet look wrong no matter how they are drawn its fucked up.shoes+gloves clearly mandatory to make them look visually.
it was really just flexing 3D water rendering tech so might as well also make the environments pretty.everybody who claims otherwise is wrong.
>>751055195because beaches are fun.
>>751056635holy shit its western AAA man
>>751055195Maybe it was a combination of graphics getting better and that there was some successful game that was set in tropical beaches and then others tried to follow that trend.
>>751064801bro thinks he's apart of the team.
>>751058264western games had beach themes too.stuff like far cry, vice city, tropico, tomb raider 3, black and white.
>>751064801kino halo beaches
>>751064272The only way back is through ethnic cleansing. You can't have beaches of the 90% White past in a 50% White country.
It came out in 2009, but pokepark: pikachu's adventure had a starting beach level I always remember.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oj1EaRzCNlc
Animal Crossing also had a small tropical island you could visit even back in 2001.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2w57bROOY7s
>>751055195The GameCube was codenamed “Dolphin” before release, which is why so many of the early GC entries were beach and ocean themed (Mario Sunshine, Wind Waker, Wave Race, etc.) After the name was changed to GC, there was no need to stick to the beach theme.
>>751055195Showing off new technology (technology being water)
>>751060286where do we go from here?
>>751056236*basd
>>751065250neither of those examples look particularly good to be honest
>>751065594consoomerism at its kikest
>>751065993western games are on average pretty ugly.
>>751060286>>751065786i am terrified of how much worse things can get but at the same time i am almost curious to see it
>so many>it's like 4
>>751066302Four very influential and successful and popular games.
>>751066328what did they influence?
>>751066401these threads
>>751066328...but enough about call of duty mw2, mw3, bo and bo2
>>751055657Here, watch this instead, it's more cheerful
>>751056719>everywhere outside Japan is extremely dangerousTrue.
