It's literally just classic with 3 new weather effects and a new race for girls
Wait, what new weather effects? Weather was added in like 1.9 right? So it should be in classic anyway?
wait what new weather effects? Weather was added in 1.9? did you mean lightning effects?
>quests from season of discovery>pre 60 dungeons can only realistically be ran once if you're not retarded it's not classic at all.
>>751190727yes, but it allows me to be trans in peace
>>751190727and multiple new zones and dungeons, and 1000+ new quests
>>751190727>hype was crazy before launch>now nobody gives a single fuckkek
>>751190727this game sucks so fucking muchhaving mobs respawn around you and then mob you is not funconstantly running long distances while doing nothing but waiting is awfulthe combat mechanics are so clunky and slow compared to how fast it wants you to respond to thingsit consistently tries to force you into joining parties and socializethe entire action/hot bar system is fucking garbage there are only 10 buttons mapped 1 to = but it expects you to use around 30 buttonsdying gets you punished if you aren't willing to waste the time running back to your corpse when chances are your in a cave surrounded by mobs and not getting out without dying againnearly everything about this game fucking sucksthe writing is not good, the characters are not good, the graphics are not goodthe talent tree is fucking shit 1% to freeze a chilled enemy, 5% chance to crit on third combo, the gear stats are just as fucking stupidtl;dr awful terrible horrible game
>>751190727>new race for girlslol wat?
>>751191235>WoW sucksi couldve told you that like 20 yrs ago
>>751191234And yet all the drones fell for it again. That low effort shit totally worth several million of one month subs.
>>751191108>bring me 1000 bear asses for the thousandth timeenthralling
>>751191379Girls prefer making attractive characters. The horde had none since it no longer had blood elves.
what would be a ideal grown up white male race?pic related
>>751191808All they had to do is add the previous Warcraft games races to the factions. Ogres and goblins to the Horde and high/blood elves remnants to the Alliance.
I remember when Classic was first announced in 2017 and /v/ endlessly shitposted that it would be "dead in a month"9 years later, here we are
>>751193286classic is dead tho, there's a reason why they've made like 6 new "classic" releases
>>751193363>"dead" means I don't like it!every time
>>751193407>its so alive they had to spam new versions to keep people playing
How do people deal with the sharding bullshit for mobs in hardcore? You can literally just have 4 guys phase into aggro range like they got beamed down from space and fuck your asshole
>751193594>if a new game comes out, that is a bad thing and means the series is dyingOnly on /v/.
>>751190727I've been playing this and having a great time. Everyone is helpful, social and kind. Its a good time. Out of the 100s of people I've talked to only 2 were shitty, both were in Olympus guilds and had "chud" epically in their name and they both were extremely mad. I laughed so hard knowing it was one of you losers
But aren't you HYPED? Aren't you HYPED that your favorite internet personality is playing it and so are all their fans? How can you not be HYPED dude? We're so back, bro. We're going home...
>>751190727>classic players are shit eatersshocker
751194016
>>751193286why are you still here?
>thousands of new quests>new dungeons>new raids>new zones>new class/race combinations>massive sweeping changes to all classes>active development on everything>/v/: IT'S JUST CLASSIC AGAIN!Never change, /v/.
>>751194182to watch faggots on /v/ seethe and mald over Classic while I'm waiting for flight paths
>>751190727Yes, but it's made for whales with sub 50 IQ's so what's the problem exactly? Taking advantage of the mentally retarded is okay as long as it's just a video game.
>>751194272but enough about xiv
>>751194315I agree, enough about you derailing a legitimate criticism about wow.
Dungeons nerfs are straight up retarded
>>751191808Murlocs as a playable race is cool on paper but in reality just fucking stupid. Makes no sense why such a tribal, low IQ race with a language nobody understand would care to fight for either side
751194379>retards! whales!>"legitimate criticism"kek
>>751191968Elves are the most popular race, that's why they keep adding them and why they added another one in forever. However, they could have been not retarded and lazy and given alliance high elves and hordes blood elves, just made them look a bit different. But why do that when you can just make one race, make it able to play on both sides and and sell it for $30
>>751194219This is the same /v/ that cried about Super Mario Bros Wonder being "nsmb yet again"They can't see anything past surface details
I do not care how good their products are, I'm just not gonna give my money to a company like activision blizzard
>>751194961holy mindbreak
>>751194961The government you voted for forced this on blizzard, don't blame them.
>>751195039>blizzcuck iq at full display
>2005: WoW is dead!!!>2006: WoW is dead!!!>2007: WoW is dead!!!>2008: WoW is dead!!!>2009: WoW is dead!!!>2010: WoW is dead!!!>2011: WoW is dead!!!>2012: WoW is dead!!!>2013: WoW is dead!!!>2014: WoW is dead!!!>2015: WoW is dead!!!>2016: WoW is dead!!!>2017: WoW is dead!!!>2018: WoW is dead!!!>2019: WoW is dead!!!>2020: WoW is dead!!!>2021: WoW is dead!!!>2022: WoW is dead!!!>2023: WoW is dead!!!>2024: WoW is dead!!!>2025: WoW is dead!!!>2026: WoW is dead!!!>2027: WoW is dead!!!>2028: WoW is dead!!!>2029: WoW is dead!!!>2030: WoW is dead!!!>2031: WoW is dead!!!>2032: WoW is dead!!!>2033: WoW is dead!!!>2034: WoW is dead!!!>2035: WoW is dead!!!>2036: WoW is dead!!!>2037: WoW is dead!!!>2038: WoW is dead!!!
>>751191379ladies love the beef
>>751190727No it's retail emulating classic with weather effects and cataclysm models + barbershop etc
>>751195472>it's retail emulating classic-no RDF, no LFR, no M+, no endless rain of epics for doing anything, no hyper fast leveling, no extra classes, no expansion content, no...
>>751195521>no M+the only upside
and? having a blast.
how is the game different again from classic wow? a few new zones with kill quests and grind factions and a few new tank and spank dungeons?eveyrhing about the community looks like supercharged cancer. even for wow.
>>751195672they went too far in the other direction, now you can only run dungeons once while leveling.
>>751195961It's for boomers, retail is too complicated for them. I did the new dalaran dungeon, none of the bosses have mechanics, you just stand there and auto attack the boss until it dies. Actually one of the bosses does have one mechanic, it fires out a beam that moves circular around the room, doesn't one shot and you need to literally stand in it for 3 seconds + to die, someone in my runs has died to it every time, i swear boomers are fucking retarded
got to admit being able to see mt hyjal and blackrock mountain in the distance is cool
>>751190727INV ASMON LAYER
>>751196086It's a shame. They should have added new paths to old dungeons like Mara has multiple paths
>>751191235uh oh uncs aren't gonna like this truth nuke
>>751190904WoW beta had dark nights but they removed it because people complained they couldnt see stuff.WoW vanilla introduced weather effects but it made things hard for people with potato PC so they removed it/ drastically toned it down.
>>751190727And I'm having a blast leveling with my bro
>the alleged point of Forever is to enjoy the journey and (in vain) recreate the 2004 experience>entire guild is nolifing this shit with the RXP addon and pulling 18 hour daysfucking why? where did the community go so wrong?
>>751191080BUT THAT ROACH LORD ASMONGOLD RUINED MY TRANS HAVEN BY HAVING FUN!
>>751191235Holy filtered shitter.You couldn't even think to change keybinds? Is this your first video game?
>>751197632It's been like this for years. https://youtu.be/iRt9mgLPJn4?si=OwXRzW178XIaI2Y9&t=59It's disturbing how accurate this video is.
>>751191968when writers/designers get 'high on their own supply' they start to feel like they are too good to simply give the people what they want and they fall into the trap of always wanting to subvert expectations. >Fans want X? yeah well it would be easy to just add X, but anyone could do that and im special so im going to add a twist to it!
>>751190727It is that, and much more. It is Classic+, as many people have been begging to.
I feel like they really fucked up implementing WoW Forever. It feels like I'm playing this weird hybrid of retail and classic but with the downsides of both and there's not really many upsides.The sharding and mega servers get rid of the classic feeling of being in a persistent world with recurring players and it gets rid of server reputation mattering which is exacerbated by the leveling dungeons being one and done like on retail so people will just roll need on anything that catches their eye during their 1 dungeon run.Then you have the combat, they added more abilities to make it more retailish but it's much worse because the quality of life from retail isn't there. Rogues have their combo points bound to enemies still, they barely have any aoe, Forever feels like you're playing neutered retail.
>>751198016It's not. It's shit.
>>751191235truth nuclear bomb.....
>>751198016whats the point of Dalaran being unveiled lore wise?
>>751190727I really like those weather effects, man.
>>751197078he'll already do that himself
>>751198461jangly keys for uncs
>>751197887yeah that's about rightmost of my guild basically hasn't fucking logged off except for server maintenance since launch on Wed and are going to back 60 within the first week, and I'm already put off hard because I have an actual job and shit and am not interested in an unpaid second one. I got to like 25 and my interest was already waninglike its just classic. AGAIN. why the fuck would anyone be nolifing this of all things and using paid $45 sperg guide addons? Maybe this game isn't for me
>>751194219>>massive sweeping changes to all classeswarrior got literally one new spell, and that was just imported from tbcLiterally nothing else changed
>This is the most popular WoW has ever been!>Never have we seen so many players before!>can we see the numbers then?>Nope!So how come they still refuse to show actual numbers if this is the most popular WoW has ever been?
>>751199110>he fell for it againSee you in WoW Forever Classic, cuck.
>>751198112Oh, and the questing focus is fucking retarded when most of the quests have not been revamped and it's a bunch of quests that require you to keep going back to the same areas over and over again plus a lot of them don't have shared drops so grouping to do quests makes them take longer. The retail quest QoL isn't there but you're expected to level like it's retail. To make matters worse you have to level for MUCH longer than on retail.Forever is fucking shit, you are constantly penalized for trying to play with friends because you can't dungeon level and most quests don't have shared drops. Who the fuck are they letting design a MMO?
>>751193407it dies every time tho? it has no staying power, people are sick of it, it takes constant version spam and rereleases to get people to play it for a while before they get bored and leave
>>751190727Yes, and?
at least the ass is great
>we could have finished MMORPG remakes like Vanguard:Saga of heroes or Warhammer Online that wasn't rushed and forced to released before they were finished>instead we get 10 classic versions of WoWI hate this world
>>751199171They didn't say "most popular" they said "highest peak player count" because the most popular WoW expansions didn't launch globally at the same time. BFA was the first retail expansion with a global release
>>751198816jej
is there a point where it typically 'clicks' with people? at the moment it's just walking simulator and random fetch/kill quests.
>>751190727people are dropping forever
blizzard has no idea what forever is supposed to be. if they wanted it to be about the journey, they would have made more challenges in the legacy tab that would require you to do at lower levels. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but it looks like you can just do the lower level dungeon ones when you're 60 and it will still count. If the challenge required you to stay under level 20 when you complete them (or whatever the average level for them is) that would actually encourage people to not rush and take their time completing the challenge.
>>751199930the week friend code only lets you get to level 10 btw
>>751190904So how many of you faggots actually fucked off from Maplestory for this
>>751200067that was a bug and is fixed
>>751199921It's the premise that once you level up enough you will be a powerful badass with cool armor and weapons. If that does not get you going then this is not for you.
>>751199303I'm about to fix that at least. Modern WoW fucking sucks fat dick>people in the world straight up refuse to group even when it benefits everyone>randos barely talk>everyone in guild and out is mindlessly speedrunning this shit with RXP>guild nigs won't play with anyone outside of their little premade cliques>absolutely zero guild bants except for the sweats farming izzat linking the sperg items they farmed after being on for 56 hours straight in guild chat>discord dead in the same way>megaserver layering makes the game feel somehow MORE empty and soulless despite the people because you're just seeing random players all the time with no community continuity like servers at leastthis just ain't it senpai
>>751190727>It's literally just classicthe only version of wow worth playing
>>751199629i loved warhammer online but it was blatantly unfinished so a remake of it would require probably years of dev time
>>751199629it's a shame management botched Vanguard so fucking hard. That game has a lot of potential.
>>751198016imagine defending multimillion dollar company on the internetwhile wiping your ass with leaves in the meantime
my friends actually want to play HordeYou can say shit about how playing as humans is somehow boring but being forced to play as an ugly orc, an ugly undead, an ugly tauren or an ugly troll is worse than a million slaveries and holocausts combinedI cannot get over how ugly horde is, I legit won't be able to play this shit lmao
>>751200442Y'all will shit on anything not FF or Souls related but will defend these two franchises with your lives so you have little room to talk
>>751200520female orcs are sexo
>>751200520your p2elf is calling buttercup.
>>751200589No, dude. No the fuck they aren't. They are so unsexy, and it's telling of your character you'd try and sell me otherwise.
>>751200589In fanart maybe.
>>751200701>>751200802plebs, orcs have everything the "pretty" races have and more, giant tits, amazing hips, great ass, more for me
>>751200520female undead are qts
>>751191507>complaining that the MMO quest wasn't a narrative masterpieceA very genuine complaint (lol)
>>751190727>cave into the hype and decide to play WoW for the first time ever>play a healer class since I've heard they're needed>Orc Shaman>Starter snowy zone looks nice>nothing but fetch/kill X quests>look it up and these are pretty much the only types of quests this game has>bored out of my fucking mind by level 6>cancel subI honestly have no idea how WoW is as popular as it is. It has to be 100% nostalgia.
>>751200173It's even more toxic than retail, not only will people refuse to group for quests, they'll bait a mob and then kill it when you go near it and even invite you to the group and then kick you before it dies so you don't even get credit. classic players are mentally ill
>>751191235>complains about everything that makes the game not-retail>also complains about retail in the threadvery interesting indeed
>>751201023meant dwarf shaman, not orc
>>751190727We lost CoA for this.I just want to play Tinker, man.
>>751191507>implying that "bring me 1000 bear asses" isn't the peak of videogamesI legitimately got hyped when Mankirk told me to bring him 60 boar quills, can't wait to genocide quilboars for a couple hours today
>>751199930>priestmany such cases
>>751201067let me guess, you're playing on the PvP server
>>751200117you're kiddingI gave blizzard money because of thatand I got jewed out of 200 exp from a questsatan blizzard
locks hurry and level and buy my robes of arcana right now!
>>751191808>BRO WHY DONT THEY ADD OGRES AND MURLOCS AND NAGA BRO ITS SO EASY ITS WHAT THE PEOPLE WANTWhat you're really saying is>Why don't they completely re-mesh every armor in the game and re-rig it to a new skeleton? >Some pieces would need to be completely redesigned even which would probably compromise the "vanillaness" of the design and just draw criticism because whatever they make would "look too retail"Adding new races to the game is dumb. The game has plenty and legitimately does not need more. If anything, they should focus on gameplay. Classes, quests, dungeons, raids, mechanics for progression or power, new zones, new music, stuff that is way more fucking impactful than re-meshing the Banana armor for 6 months of dev time so a fucking fishman can wear it
>>751201432but I wanna be an ogre and a monkey
>>751200950>posts star trekyeah that fucking fits!!!wow bro look, such good fucking boobs, such good fucking hips>>751201009aw yeah man rotten skin exposed bone we're in qt fucking central, she's just like my fucking crush back at the goddamn morgue
>>751198112>>The sharding and mega servers get rid of the classic feeling of being in a persistent world with recurring players and it gets rid of server reputation mattering which is exacerbated by the leveling dungeons being one and done like on retail so people will just roll need on anything that catches their eye during their 1 dungeon run.Completely not true. There is a new feature that slightly changes the color of players you've interacted with/partied with before and I legitimately see the same players all over the world, progressing at pretty much the same rate as me.
>>751201521posted the wrong image but female undead don't look any better still kek
>>751199930>getting filtered by early priest levelingkek, you see this a lot
want to play healerwhich one should I go for?>undead priest>troll shamanOr druid? Never played them.
>>751201640Druid for sure if you want to have a fun leveling process. Resto Sham was pretty stout but they nerfed a few hybrid things about it pre-launch. Priest is a miserable experience until what, like level 25?
>>751194471they should be able to exist as a third faction fighting anyone even on pve zones
>>751201009>>751201521God, Retail ruined fem undeads so hard, it's unreal
>>751194471>tribal, low IQ race with a language nobody understand would care to fight for either sideLike Trolls?
>>751190727>So watch and you notice even without a treat i have conditioned the dog to perform tricks anticipating the treat.
>>751201823We already have a monster factionthey're called the Horde*spits*
>>751201521Would.>>751201521Would.
>>751194593yooooo i finna cant wait for the nigga elves from dune yo damn
I'm not playing that shit.Imagine having just 70-80 years in this planet and you waste it on grinding boar asses while normal people actually enjoy their games.
>>751194471Murlocs > TrollsWarcraft 3 proved it.
>>751201748>Priest is a miserable experience until what, like level 25?No instruments to level up safe or why?
>>751202012For all he would, this is who he truly appears as.Pity him not as a man who would make his choice honorably, but pity him as someone who would eat a hotdog out of a shit sewer for how starved he is.
>get to new wetlands dungeon entrancewhat the fuck is this music? what kind of talentless hack did they hire to try and completely fail at imitating classic music? literally no sense of melody, just repeating ostinatos with nothing to catch the ear. fucking garbage holy fuck.
>>751191235>nearly everything about this game fucking sucks>the writing is not good, the characters are not good, the graphics are not goodBlizzard trannies, your response?
>>751190727based
>>751202012sorry meant to reply to >>751201572But yeah I would every Horde female.
>>751201202Not worth 500 hours of your life wasted just to collect 60 tusks
>>751190904Go to Dun Morogh right fucking now, can't see shit past like 20m
>>751202056millennials will keep playing this by the time they are 70-80
>>751193286If you did nothing but play wow for 9 years kill yourself
>>751198425Yes. Just like classic.
>>751202249There's a +3 agi cape as a reward tho...
>>751199930For me, it's quite the opposite. I wish that the game was not a singleplayer themepark simulator. Casuals forever ruined the mmorpg genre.My perfect WoW would be: >every zone having twice as much mobs (to force players to play together)>every mob 2x~3x stronger (to force players to play together)>0.25x exp (to force players to grind once no quests are available at their level range)>contested enhanced exp grind areas (1 per zone) to generate faction conflict, so alliance and horde players have to fight for the control.>more items to equip: a new equipament tier every 10 levels>ways to enhance/reforge/add bonus effects to your items (+1, +2... +10 attack speed... etc) (this to make professions more appealing) and with visual effects feedbackPrivate servers makers, please take notes ^
>>751201572You didn't even use the only acceptable face orc women have.She looks like she just figured out that throwing sticks at boars makes them die lmao
last night got to southshore at like 2am, as soon as i left the town i got ganked by 2-3 parties of skull level players for like half an hour until i or they got layered
>>751199110>I'm already put off hard because I have an actual job and shit This is the wow killer, the fact that all of your effort and investment into this game was for nothing because a bunch of jobless or nerd losers will beat you at this dogshit gameNever played it btw lmfao
>>751202448She's boring as fuck why the fuck do you enjoy watching her are you a fucking loser?
>>751202514who?
>>751202448I think you have to be brain dead to pick a PvP server at this point. This happens every single time. There is no actual world PvP it's just groups of people ganking lower levels. Eventually one side completely quits or leaves the server and it becomes a mega PvE server.
>>751202319Not me, I played vanilla in 2004/5, I played tbc, I played private servers, I played classicFucking done with this shit
>>751190727don't forget the layering of a single player game
>>751202393>to force players to grindwhy
>>751202136Just really low damage, long kill times
>>751201521Yes
>>751202545I heard your mother likes it rough, choked and crying.
>>751202056Sure thing, gachafag. Sure thing.
Nobody wants to run dungeons after they do the quests. Just as I predicted. Well done.
>>751190727>a new race for girlsfor AGP trannies*
>>751202654maybe, most women are like that
>>751202665>Boy I'm glad I'm not a gatcha gamer>Spends 30 hours a week to prepare for a raid and the loot drop ends up being a literal dice roleLMFAO
>>751202587Because it is fun when done with others... especially if it's not a braindead grind (you need to pay attention otherwise you will die) and pvp is involved ("oh look, a group of horde players is approaching")
>>751202719Yeah if only my sexual gratification was tied to WoW loot and I had to pay 10 bucks for every raid clear, you might have a point.
>>751202803You're a dumbass, low IQ corporate drone who has a boring fucking life if you enjoy WoW forever.
>>751190727>damn it's just the greatest mmorpg again, this sucks i think era dorks are just having a tired toddler moment because they realise they wasted all that time on stale nostalgia servers instead of just waiting for Forever. after a nap im sure they'll get over it and enjoy this great game that was literally made for them
>see demon minion>add its name to the listI can't be the only one who does this right?
>>751202981When you insult someone to sidestep an ongoing argument, that's called 'ad hominem.' It's tantamount to a concession of defeat.You didn't pay attention much in class, did you?
>>751203061Go play your faggot game
>>751202568but i was told the true wow experience was on pvp servers
>>751202393So Lineage 2 (older versions)?
Maybe do something oh wait you're busy jerking and blowing cocks of blizzard executives. Faggot.
>>751203082But I'm having so much fun blowing you out, gacha anon. Forcing someone into logical fallacy checkmate gets me rock hard.
>>751202136it's easy and has very little downtime if you do it rightbut you're also literally just wanding 90% of the time and you don't get cool shit like shadowform until 40
>>751203181They also announced dual spec is level 40 and costs 45 gold so that is a significant chunk
>>751201554I'm not seeing anyone again but you'll run into the issue of people in groups being phased away from you. You most likely won't see the same few groups outside of raids due to phasing which kills the community.
>>751203175Never in my life has coming off like an autistic loser paid off for me.
>>751190727>cat quest>only unlocks Rip>train ferocious bite>doesn't add to skill book>money stolen, have to retrain on relogif this shit happened 25 years ago you'd get a full refund, instead you get chat and party banned for 7 days after getting mass reported because you said We Are Charlie Kirk to someone named Dindu Muffins. i love the future, incredible stuff. at least my druid looks like a proper puppet.
its cool how auction house doesn't work either unless people are buying my more expensive silk bags over the cheap ones just for the fun of it
>>751203265Definitely isn't paying off for you right now, kek.Makes me laugh that you undoubtedly spend so much time on 4chan trying to engage in these hostile trolling arguments with people when you are just VERY OBVIOUSLY shit at it.
>>751190727Sorry retards, but for me, a not reading alpha male, retail is a much better game:>Faster to level>I can take 30 mobs at once, the ultimate power fantasy >No gay resting for mana or sitting in a gay campfire>No need to talk to anyone I can solo elites easily>No need to go with retards in dungeons, my bot team has me covered until I'm max lvl and I can mog those retards in the recount>People doesn't dirty the chat with their retardation, it's just you and your music>No need to farm gold, everything gives you so much money that you don't have to stopAnd you'll tell me "but retail has gayfagniggerstrans in the quests"I don't care because I DON'T FUCKING READ ANYTHING
>>751203237There have been some layering bugs but I think they're just bugs. Maybe it's because there are probably less people overall on the RP realm but I see the same fucking people all over the place.
>>751203365>ERM AKTUSLLY YOU HAVE PERFORMED THR MOST HEINOUS OF LOGICAL FALLACIES MY GOOD SIR, YES PERCHANCEGo play your little adult ADHD medication game
>>751203380sounds like you should try hosting your own private server with bots, it's easy as fuck nowadays
>>751203143Nah... Lineage 2 is way too clunky.Imagine something likeage WoW + Mu Online (with the prevalence of WoW gameplay and graphics)
>>751203494kek yep, you're definitely one of the dumb kids that didn't pay attention in school but also not one of the cool kidsim guessing one of the autistic "stinky kid lunch table" guys who got horrible grades without any redeeming popularity
>>751203456Yeah, it might be an RP realm thing because on the regular realm I stopped seeing the same people again after Brill and I'm seeing A LOT of people in the world. Every quest has me fighting for mobs.
>>751203551Careful anon, you're wasting precious time you could be wasting farming fake flowers for a raid where your raid leader already reserved the best trinket in the game for his best friend who is in the guild.Have fun.
>>751203496Nah I'm basically tech illiterate I can hardly install basic programs without almost destroying my pc and I don't have the patience to watch more than 30 seconds of a video in YouTube
>>751203641Sorry, poojeet gachanon, the stinky kid lunch table thing was over the line. I forgot that everyone in your indian cafeteria probably smelled like shit and I apologize.
>>751190727> a new race for girlsThat's when I knew this will be a low effort cashgrab a la Blizzard.>Here, more elves lol now fuck off
>>751203748Enjoy dying and regretting life, oh wait you're fucking moronic so you won't even register
>>751203130People aren't bright-eyed retards anymore. Even then pvp servers were filled with rogues looking for the easiest possible opportunities.
When will Wallcraft save us?
>>751203909>mfw an admitted gachafag lectures me about the value of time and a life well-lived
>>751202448go live queen
>>751203036>see a french person>report themI also report "funny" names if I'm bored.
>>751202393>0.25x expI wanted to say you are stupid, but the intention to funnel ppl into more interaction with each other is good. Mainly because WoW other than interacting with others is pretty shitty. Currently it's:>you grind mobs(90% of quests are basically just pointers and rewards for grinding mobs)>those mobs other than their model barely ever change>no mechanic to pay attention>caster mobs can hurt plate classes more than others, but they just spam spell until oom>sometimes there are healers, that's it>from lvl 1 to max lvlIt's so fucking mindnumbing and boring. Yesterday I saw a group of players blockading the main road in Ashenvale and ganking any other faction players. That was neat to see and could have had more implications systemwise but alas WoW is pretty barebones poop.After playing GW2 and then GW1 I just don't know how this shit has an appeal at this point. GW2 has a much more engaging action combat and GW1 has a much much better system of how PvE enemies work in the open world.
>>751190727untrueit's classic with 3 new weather effects, transmog, a new race for girls, and disney warlords of draenor character models. and if you don't want the disney models, you get skinwalking disney models wearing the classic model skin. and the new race for girls doesn't even have a classic model until somewhere in 2027also we told you what it would be. your own fault for still falling for it
>want to play classic graphics because HD is disgusting megasoy>but HD gnome females are cute AFack
I'm simply loving it and there's nothing you can do about it, first time actually playing WoW btw
>>751204124>>751204149I think they're going to listen to community feedback and make new HD models that are more in line with the classic visuals.
>>751198016>Classic+ as many people have been begging toClassic players were begging for retail models, WoTLK Dalaran transplanted into classic and blue blood elf reskins?
>>751204317nah we were begging for cool changes like how they just made all 3 rogue specs unique and cool with the last pass
>>751200541>Y'allkill yourself
>>751191234you're going to get an enormous dropoff after this first week. Probably after this weekend, t b hany millennial dadgamers' deals with their wives' bulls were probably just for this weekend, and both they and anyone who's somehow new to WoW and got swindled into playing, are going to find out that classic is a slog-ass grind to 60 AND you have the modern cancer live service audience on top of thatpeople are going to get into the 20s and just find there's not much of a blast to be had at the end of the day, and move on to other vidya
>>751201432But that's what they did with like every race they added... Worgen goblins vulpa etc etc. You don't "remap" 10000 pairs of pants you remap one all others have the same map then maybe tweek like 3 that look a little off. They already do this that's why some armours look strange on some races blizz doesnt actually bother twerking they probably have a program that iterates through the item classes and adds the map variable for that specific race.
>>751204406The races they've added have all had: 2 arms, 2 legs, and a skeleton which is basically the same but just slightly altered. The monster race skeletons are completely different. It's not that easy.
>>751191234>hype was crazy before launchwelcome to marketing campaigns
>>751204176fuck you funhaving piece of shit
>>751204397next big game to play for PC/RPG chads until POE 2 comes out next month, I think WoW Forever retains players decently 'til then
we finna buyed this?
i'm having a blastno i'm gonna stay here having arguments with people telling them i'm having fun and if they think this halfbaked reheated slopfest is bad then they're my OSRS/FFXIV/private server boogeyman but trust me i'm really really really enjoying the game and having blasties in my pants i'm getting so immersed there's never been a better time to play #wow #forever #comehome
>>751204104I understand you concern about the exp rate, but this obsession with end game content is what sucked the soul of the mmorpg genre.I remember playing a mmorpg where every armor set was an achievment and everyone took their time to enjoy it through its entire level range. You would upgrade that particular armor, take good care of it, see it shine and how beautiful it is. So, after fulfilling its purpose, it was ready to be sold, so that a lower-level player could enjoy it and put it to good use.
>>751190727>no more comfy grinding because enemy exp has been drastically reduced for no reason at all>no more comfy dungeon spamming, because dungeon exp have been drastically reduced for no reason at allHome bros...I don't feel so good....
>>751204529who are you quoting lil gup
>>751204571the dungeon spamming nerf really killed my drunken fun with this gamespamming dungeons with randoms and sipping some beers is peak content
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>>751204593you, slopgobbler juniorglad you felt addressed. i hope it hurts your ass.
>>751190727I like it. Has been fun so farNot as social as the beta was, but social enough to not feel you're on a dirty pserver
>>751204647Me? No, you've already been slamdunked and BTFO by me. Remember the whole logical fallacy thing?
>>751204397I really hope so, as the worst fucking aspect in an MMO is the herd other players swarming the zones, making it a fucking hassle to tag mobs and try to beat them to nodes. People in general are fine, but when there's three parties full of hunters and warlocks locking down entire zones for hours at a time, it gets really tiresome.
>>751204397I remember trying out Discovery or what it was called and 2 major issues called out to me:1. People are still meta slaves. Its fucking brain dead easy but people will fight tooth and nail or kinda somewhat just a bit meta upgrades or rage over not clearing a dungeon in record time. All while they're shit at the game. 2. Shit had mod-requiring raid content anyways. I remember seeing the upcoming Gnomeregan content and gave up on that shit. .t Tank and RL sometimes through the ages.
>>751204504and at least until asmongold does the raids once. then the streamer izzat will be dried up
>>751204528just for a tabard, backpack and murloc pet? nah
>>751204317Unironically yes.
>>751204612They buffed it ( still not enough )
>>751204528Imagine not feeling like a whale with this shit.
>>751204779Dungeon spams breaks my immersion. There's no real lore reason to run a dungeon a 2nd time.go back to retail
>>751190727>no high/blood elf paladinshall not be playing
>>751199930Are people really this dumb? Forever is just Classic Plus.
>>751204841>spotted the post-wow player
>>751204684>everyone who makes fun of me for being a hog is the same personoh no, he copin. the slopsucker is copin
>>751190904>>751190924Organic posts, discordsisters.
>>751204779cool so instead of being nerfed by 90% its only 85% lower than normal?very awesome im having a blast now
>>751204898We've already established that you're not very smart.
>>751190727It's literally just Everquest with 10000 casual features and instanced welfare loot for wageslaves
>>751204841dungeon leveling is a great alternativa to avoid the crowded questing. Some quests are cancer to do because you spend more time trying to tag the mobs than actually fighting them.
Wow fanboys have to be the most shameless fanbase in all of gaming.
A friend paid my subscription, what race should i play? I wanted to be the most generic human possible with a sword a shield and a horse but apparently I can't join the mudhuts of the horde faction like that and everyone plays in there.
>>751205035whatever you think looks the coolest
>>751204149I hate how HD gnomes have this really scrunched face while running for no good reason
>>751204930Smart enough not to fall for retail minus, at least, lmao.
>>751204149Why do new female gnomes get forced to have eyeshadow? Are they afraid of letting them be too attractive?
>>751204732I got to like 25 over the past few days and eventually said fuck it and deleted my character in the guild from my retail group who haven't closed the game since launch and are all in the 40s already, started a new char on my preferred faction, and abandoned all pretense of doing raids and shitlike fuck, all the old magic is long-gone and there's no point in trying to bother playing with the retailoids. The move just seems to be either just vibe it solo up to 60 completely on your own time or better yet don't even fucking play this mess
>nerfing everyone's dungeon experience because they're too retarded and incompetent to do anything against boosting and botting
>>751205219that is doing something against boosting and botting doe
>>751204841Retail leveling is all about doing a dungeon once when an expansion drops and then never again. That was a retail change and considering how hard dungeon exp was nerfed, the 50% buff prolly doesn't save it.
>>751205269yeah, and also against literally every other player
>>751205219sorry please understand jeets and trannies cant actually develop a good game, only ride the coattails of their predecessors
>>751204924It was nerfed to be 25% of what it originally was. With the 50% buff it's now 37.5% of what it should be. Retards will see 50% and think Blizzard is being based but it is still not worth running dungeons more than once.
Why are people so upset about dungeon xp being lower? Are people really in that much of a hurry to reach 60 and start raidlogging?
>>751205219UNIRONICALLY the solution to that kind of shit was something they did already in SoD: just do short timegates>week 1-2: let people level up to 25, have time to do the at-level dungeons and stuff>week 3: level cap up to 40, same deal>week 4: level cap up to 60>don't unlock raids until anywhere from week 6 to 8
>>751204841>Dungeon spams breaks my immersion. There's no real lore reason to run a dungeon a 2nd time.but you sure won't mind when the endgame in a few weeks is running the same raid over and over again, right? then it'll be "actually it's based that these raids see more than a one-time use blizzard is being smart and clever as heck this is why wow is on top"
>>751204528I don't think any of that works in Forever anyway, sneaky little retail bundle of stuff for the 12 month price.
>>751205445people want to enjoy the leveling experience instead of being forced to quest in overcrowded areas.
I'm completely done with guild raiding after 2019 fresh and find classic PvP kinda shit and this seems even worse with all the imbalanced changes they are making. So I don't see anything here that appeals to me.Are "the journey is the best part" copers having a blast or is just the same classic slog with some slightly different baubles and kill quests?
>>751205445I am for people's right to level as they wish. If they want to do so by spamming dungeons, it should be their prerogative, even if I wouldn't. There is no 'journey' if you're surrounded by guard rails to make sure you have 'the experiences blizzard approves of'.
I have so little going on in my life (next to zero) that I even considered giving Forever a go... this is how down bad in life someone needs to be to ever consider wasting their time playing world of warcraft. This game is a magnetic for losers and the people who failed in life.
>>751205508the backpack and tabard are for forever rest is retoilet and mop/tbc
>>751204779this is after they nerfed it by like a whopping 76% so they're still way under xp. People are abandoning dungeons, it's sad.
>>751205445Because despite what redditors and gamerdads pretend is reality the truth is that 99% of players just do whatever is efficient so when you nuke dungeon XP most people wont want to group for one unless they have a quest. So almost no one does a dungeon more than once and lots of people are quitting their groups as soon as they get whatever quest they had finished.
>>751205445Its a more beneficial way of grouping and getting some nice gear on the way. I remember grouping in classic (real) and leveling as a healer via dungeon groups rather then usually just questing the nth time on a new character.
>>751205549Yeah no kidding, I have nothing going on in my life and happily stay up until fucking 4 am running around barrens for the nth time. Good thing I got a 7 day trial and I'm not fucking subscribing.
imagine hurting the experience and enjoyment of 99,9% of the players because of some retards tryhards who powerlevel using mages in dungeons.
>>751205445dungeon xp was nerfed to the point where you need to run 4 times as many dungeons to hit max level than you needed to in classic. with the new 50% buff you will need to run 3 times as many dungeons to hit max level than you needed in classic.mythic+ on retail exists because people love running dungeons. but people don't want to waste their time, they launched the game at a state where if you needed 150 dungeon runs to hit max level, it was nerfed so that you'd need to run 600 instead. with the current change, it's now 450 dungeons instead of 150 dungeons.
>>751205445>Are people really in that much of a hurry to reach 60 and start raidlogging?Yes. Literally EVERY single fag in my guild from retail is pulling 16-20 hour days using while using sperg mods like RXP with all automations and shit active. I've seen some of these niggers who essentially haven't logged off one in 5 straight days.It's some mentally-ill shit to watch
>>751205814Speak for yourself bro, I prefer getting 0 xp in dungeons because I hate overleveling quests.
>>751205814the retail tryhards are still just spamming dungeons too despite the nerfs
>>751205865kek, deathgripping their favorite game to desensitize their fun
>>751205858i want to point out that after the dungeon nerfs, you will level faster just killing random green enemies out in the world. solo grinding mobs without doing quests is faster than running dungeons. this is true even after the buff they just did. i'm not even talking about aoe grinding, you can 1v1 enemies until they go grey and then move to a new camp and level faster than spamming dungeons that way. they fucked up the game.
>>751190727its WoW 2
>>751205990nah, the tryhards are abusing the sharding system and AOE leveling in the open world.
>>751205990world first 60s did overworld grinding and layer exploiting/clever use of layer mechanics.
>>751204563It's not really endgame obession in my case. I'm just used to classes, and gameplay, being even more boring than otherwise until lvl 20-30
>>751205865Raids don't even release until December 9th. They have an entire month from now, they're going to rush to max level and then have nothing to do for 3 weeks unless they level alts and do the same quest grind all over again. WoW is such a cucked game, people rush to do fucking nothing because Blizzard time gates everything to extend subscriptions. People that bought a month for forever at release literally can't do a single raid during that first sub lmao.
>>751204612if only dungeons were difficult
>>751206124>level alts and do the same quest grind all over againthat's exactly what they'll do. They'll hit 60 on Tuesday, and Wednesday they'll be leveling their second character in between their little sperg minmax dungeon runs within their cliques
>>751201432>>Why don't they completely re-mesh every armor in the game and re-rig it to a new skeleton?The Haranir in retail have insane clipping on any leg or chest armor. They don't try that hard.
>be a healer>literally 24/7 access to dungeon groups cause no fags play heals>just wand the overworld to death in between runs in my full dungeon gearfeels good man. At least that shit is the same in 2004.
>>751201432How were they able to make 8 races at the same time in 2004 while also making the whole game?
>>751204529Kek
How many more times are you going to fall for the same "We're going home" shit?
>>751206581Sounds gay and cucked no cap.
>>751206679>say this to old friends when they want to play together>nice way of course>get called a fuddy duddyGlad they're dealing with divorces and to fruits of their overspending.
>Dungeons were my favorite way to level, I can’t believe Blizzard nerfed themWhy don’t you just do more dungeons?>Noooooooo that’s suboptimal
>>751206679as many times as blizzard is willing to rehash vanilla pretending it'll finally be good
bro you dont get it classic wow is all about the journey man!!! the world is the real game experience!!!>does the most XP efficient route to get 60 ASAP>pays for a leveling guide so they dont have to spend a single second mentally interacting with any quests>cries when they cant rush 60 grinding dungeonsevery single "classic" launch the larpers all come out and pretend they LOVE the 1-60 experience and every single time they do whatever they can to blast through it as quickly as possible while complaining the entire timejust admit the game is shit and you will be raidlogging in a month
>>751206048>faster>gogog>grind to 60 fasternah, you just got a zoomer brain.
>>751206802See >>751205858 . Needing 3 times as many is simply too much even if you like dungeons. You could level 3 characters to 60 in the time it'd now take to level 1. And that's after the buff today, before that you could level F O U R characters to 60 in classic in the time it'd take to do 1 now.
>>751196086You're free to run dungeons as many times as you want.You're just bitching that it's not the optimal way to level anymore lmao
>>751206838>say the experience at low levels is kinda boring and miserable>"UUHHH WHO CARES CHUD IT GETS FUN AT CAP"
>>751206939Grinding mobs is boomer brain, that's how older MMOs like EQ and FFXI worked.
First time priest here, I want to heal dungeons as I go but I heard the class is misery unless you level shadow? What's my game plan. Can I get away with shadow healing?
>>751199160>Literally nothing else changedit amuses me how retards lie about shit that can be disproven in seconds
>>751206679Literally infinity.True ancient oldfags like me who played EverQuest remember when they introduced "time-locked progression" servers -- the thing that started this whole trend in other MMOsplayers proved they WILL with near 100% consistency play literally every single>OK retail is fucked but we're relaunching the classic game but doing it right>OK that's dead but we're re-relaunching the classic game but actually doing it right>actually we're re-re-relaunching the classic game but with buffed exp rates and wacky modifiers to make it an all new experience>OK now we're re-re-re-releasing the classic game but with multi-classing now to for realsies do it right!>OK but actually we're re-re-re-re-releasing the classic game but with multi-classing, retail features, and more to totally do it right this time!rehash ad nauseam. And remember, EQ didn't even have the 20 year sunk-cost trap that WoW has ensnared its players with. So Blizz will be free to do this for like 15 years easily
>>751206985See >>751206968 . They nerfed it way too hard, it's not that it's not optimal it's that it was completely fucking gutted. You might be able to level up faster doing BGs?
>make a cute foid nelf>run around comfy forest>kill some spooders, collect flowers>see other fellas do the same, vibe out>shit's chill af overallchill the fuck out, /v/. we're home
>>751207116>DUDE the icons are DIFFERENT now, POGGERS!! Its like a whole NEW GAME dude, WOAH. DUDE!! THEY EVEN HAVE MORE SPACING BETWEEN THEM HOLY SHIT IM GIGGLESQUEEING RIGHT NOW
>>751207146He said "you can only run dungeons once"nothing is preventing you from doing a dungeon more than once, you're just crying that it's not giving you the same exp as classic, allowing you to skip questing and just hide away inside instances for the whole leveling processcope, mald, and go back to retail
>>751207090>In old classic yes.>Nu mk4 forever classicNo idea but will say yes. I leveled up shadow priests several times for this very reasons back in (actual) class and BC. Any shadow priests who didn't heal in the non-60 dungeons just didn't want to heal period.
you get a free level from every dungeon if you get all the questsif that doesn't speed up your vanilla leveling route after 20 years of playing the same gamei don't know there is to say to you mr reddit
>>751207137This is genuinely not true. The whole reason they're doing this is because they had lost so much of their former player base.SoD and Forever are the only interesting things they've done in 15 years and that's the reason a larger player base came back for them.They didn't stay for the whole of SoD because it was sold as a temporary "test" more or less but Forever is not temporary, so people are turning out.It's not locked into an uncompromising grid like another classic launch -- it can actually make changes, which makes it different from all of the other relaunches you are talking about (which smart players like myself did not engage in)
>>751201023>>Orc Shaman>>Starter snowy zone looks niceIsrael is not sending their best today.
>>751206939Correct. The 1 to 60 grind is retarded and homosexual. It just exists to punish you and make you pay up like a good bitch. That's why they keep tweaking the speed you can grind. Idk why people keep falling for the MMO scam. Everything about the genre is built on making you spend more time -> more monthly subs.
>>751207196>nothing is preventing you from doing a dungeon more than onceIt was 25% of the original value, that is simply not worth wasting your time on. Even now it's 37.5% of the original value, it's a complete waste of time compared to other activities and if you get to end game faster you can grind dungeons for gear to your hearts content there instead. They killed multiple dungeon runs because it's too inefficient.
>>751207263there arent enough item drops for 5 people to get every quest done in one run and nobody who has the quests done wants to run it again because the xp is shit without quests. if you cant see why this is causing issues you might be retarded
>>751207193based blind anon
>>751207365this has always been a problem you dishonest pleb
>>751191968You have to understand anon: There is a Bomb at Blizzard HQ that will go off and kill everybody if they add High elves to Wow.
>>751207365you are just a fucking shitter kid i don't know what to say to youtheres no way you're past 40 and saying thisOH NOES ALL THE QUESTS HE COULDNT DO IN 1 GROUP FOR HIS WALLING CAVERNS WHILE HES IN THE BARRENSretire from games already
>>751190727Balance's completely different. Like 10 new dungeons and raids.
>>751207427its significantly worse than before
i fell for it again and i'm actually enjoying the game itself so far but i'm going to quit anyway because i still feel like an extra in the group of friends i'm playing withif i wanted to play alone i would just keep playing the single player games i've been playing since i last quit
>>751207459lol i just quit the group as soon as i get my quests done sorry dudes gl finding a new tank
>>751207359Classic proves players are literally asking for grind, don't blame blizzard for it.
I am having fun. lv 17 troll rogue, coop questing with my buddy on pvp. I have never really played wow before (nor has he) so we went in blind. Exploring the map and adventuring around has been a great experience, I was amazed by how big of an area Orgrimmar is after the little towns we'd been visiting up until that point. I get that most of the quests are just collect x or kill y but it brings you around the world to new areas and fighting new enemies so I don't mind. I'd rather be fighting enemies than doing a "collect and read the 5 journal pages" quest anywaysYesterday before I logged off, someone in barrens general alerted that there was a group of alliance outside of ratchet. Sure enough, there were about 15-20 of them in a group, all high teens or low 20s. We tried to fight them at ratchet but didn't have enough men. The alliance headed south and we just kept calling for aid in general chat and eventually managed to get a war party together of about 20 horde in a similar level range, then chased them all the way down the south gold road and wiped them 2-3 times. We returned to crossroads in a group as champions. That was a ton of fun, I hope to experience spontaneous battles like that more often even if I did die a lot in the process. Worth staying up late for
>>751207365i haven't had this issue in any dungeon except for BFD so far
>>751207585which dungeon? big boss let me guess WC whoaaaa badass over here
why the fuck are dad gamers constantly seething when someone plays the game better than them?
>>751207427>>751207365>>751207517People liked doing dungeons back in the the day just they couldn't because of the same problem as pre-wow mmos: Not enough tanks and healers, especially healers. But WoW did things differently by giving you quests so you could still make progression while soloing.Oh and traveling across the world before meeting stones and having warlocks that werent retarded. And this still happened in previous Classic Servers where bajillions of people rolled dps only classes or refused to switch specs. Not saying there aren't assholes who find the fastest way to do anything in a game, but holy shit I would be pissed if I rolled a healer or tank and finding out dungeons are non-viable options for making progression.
>>751207290fag my point is that the same people who came back for Classic, who came back for Classic Anniversary or whatever the fuck, who came back for SoD, who came back for Forever, are the same people who will come back to the trough yet again when the next iteration of classic comes out -- and yes, there will fucking be a next one lmfao.It was gonna be different every single time. And it will be different this time, next time.its not exactly rocket science to figure out that these companies, in multiple industries, have determined they have permanent nostalgia hooks in their aging millennial audiences
>>751207821I just wonder how people can be so retarded to think that they're getting anything about their 2004 experience back without a time machine
I'm having fun.
>>751204460Guess they should've spent time on that shit instead of changing random portrait objects and NPC names/modelsUnless they literally lack the skill
>>751207636based video game enjoyer. good luck on your adventures
>>751207821Because it shows them how gay and retarded they are and how meaningless they are as a gamer.
>>751207971fuck off bwo
>>751207941But are you having a blast?
>>751207975they didn't play as the uninstall wizard
>>751207943>they should spend hundreds of manhours to make a race that 0.25% of the players will playgreat idea
>>751208032No, I play a priest.
>>751207821This game isnt made for you, kid.
>>751206615It was a different time
>>751208061This but unironically. They just asked ChatGPT to make the game they can ask it to add races.
>>751207821>plays the most casual MMO ever made like its their job >cries about people being casuals (99% of the playerbase)interesting
>>751208083Uh... I'm sorry to hear that.
>>751207928>>751207975>>751208095>>751208141i mean im pretty much a casual but these dad gamers are a special kind of breed, like they think everything is minmaxing, they call everyone a sweat and what not
Goddamn dungeonfags are so annoyingI honestly thought ruining TBC Classic would teach them a fucking lesson but nope, here we are again where the most autistic players want to just annihilate all of the content, then complain there's nothing to do for a month
>>751207037>zoomer can't see the game in any other way than grinding one way or the other.grim.
>>751207037And I'm home
>>751201432>AHHH THEY WOULD HAVE TO >*checks notes*>FORCE AN INTERN TO DRAG PICTURES AROUND MODELS FOR A FEW WEEKS
>1000s of new quests! new low and mid level dungeons!!! brand new items with quirky (useless) effects!>theres so much more pre-60 content now guys just explore and have fun :)we took your feedback and worked really hard to make the world the main character just like you asked for!>literally every single person is just rushing to 60 so they can raidlog
>>751208246I can always tell a classic fag. Pulling the whole dungeon then complaining we wiped.
>>751208267That's most MMOs now that they're no longer chatrooms because of strict moderation and people moving conversations to discords.
>>751199160>Strongest class didnt get buffedBOOHOO
>>751208579>literally every single personNo. 1% of the population is doing that. Every single zone is full of people at all levels.
>>751204080Seriously what's with the French in EU servers?Don't they have their own layer?
thank you yoshida sama for letting me enjoy forever for another month
>every single quest is getting camped by gorillions of niggerfaggots>dungeons and grindspots are no longer an alternative because the xp yield is asslet me guess, it gets good 1000 hours in?
>>751202763Grinding is *never* fun, fuck you.
>>751208991It is when you're 16 and have nothing else to do
>>751208246I don't want to quest. It's not fucking fun, in any way. I don't know what's so difficult to understand about this. I at least had an alternative that wasn't literal fucking garbage before, now I don't. Why would I play your game?
>>751208246Dungeons are the only real content other than pvp.
>>751190727Yes, it's vanilla but fake and gay.
>>751209013I hated that shit when I was 9 and it was Everquest. It was never, ever fun.
>>751208946Just remember to resub at the end of the month, paypiggy. I can't believe people fell for this shit again.
lf mankirk wife
>>751208946imagine saying this in a 20 year old gameyou can sell your computer little bro
>>751209163Yeah but you're autistic
>>751209067Your brain is fried dude. I'm sorry you got spawncamped by youtube shorts and tiktok. I don't think you'll ever recover.
>>751209294dude you don't get it. Blizzard PROMISED they'd actively maintain this and that it was different this time compared to the last 5 times
>>751209067>i don't want to quest because it's not fun>instead i want to run scarlet monastery 75 times because THAT'S funbrain damaged nigger
>>751209067we get it, you don't want to run aroundshhhhhhhhh
>>751209534we all know it's bullshitbest enjoy it while we can
>>751209415No, autists love grind you moron.
>>751209463He's not wrong. I haven't played this game in decades, but the questing was just boring and dumb. I remember going out to specific low pop areas because it was also frustrating, especially on pvp servers where some random 60 would just camp you like some psychotic homosexual.
>>751209463I would bet money I'm older than you.
really fighting the urge to level a troll warrior, as prot. fuck.
So is classic still being worked on? They ever gonna do wotlk? I love northrend
>>751209689>unc actually thought that was a flexthat makes it even worse lmfao
>>751209607dont fucking play. dont pay the sub
>>751209601>Do I want to...>do this extremely low skill, low challenge task where I am only doing it for the XP reward>or group up with people and do something marginally harder that requires coordination, plus I get better lootVery difficult choice.
I wish the dungeons were at least comparable or even slightly worse than questing. I also find questing extremely tedious but as is running a dungeon more than once is truly pointless
>>751209601If my choice was shitty fetch quests or Scarlet Monastery, I'd choose Scarlet's big booty.
>>751209813This.
>>751209761Wrath Classic is for middle of next year when interest wanes in Forever. You should be able to figure out the perpetual nostalgiaslop cycle at this point my guy
>>751209607Sounds like critical mass has already been attained according to that Hana poster.
>>751209689I'm 33, not like it matters. If youre older than me and your attention span is still too low to handle questing, then go back to retail and listen to susan from HR's therapy talk.
>take away or heavily nerf an option>an option that promotes grouping and usage of certain specs>but the speed running autists are using it!>people should solo like I do!Holy shit I'm not even playing this game and none of youse should either, but youse people are being tremendous faggots.
>>751209904I was right, and it's not my attention span that's the problem, it's the knowledge that I'm being fucked with and put through the most boring garbage imaginable for profit.
Is it basically suicide for the zeitgeist at this point to remake on the other faction if you're level 30? I can't imagine there'll be any players nor life in the community for anyone who missed the launch week wave
It's OK
>>751209773and play what? recommend something
>we gave you extra 50%!>of nothing! fucking niggers>>751209715if you're pve it probably has some novelty, you take so little damage that a bit of regen might be noticable
>>751210171>6 hours and still the same levelNGMI
>>751210174I've been playing Kenshi with mods recently. Was playing Warhammer 3 but its a mess again. Keeping an eye on Wardogs to see if season 3 improves it.
>>751210242it means he found something fun to do>>751208991grinding is more fun than competing with hordes of quest mob campers, or pvp campers
>>751199160>Literally nothing else changedlol
>>751210339The uninstall wizard is more fun than any of those.
>>751210141this game's going to have a steady stream of new players onboarding and leveling up to 60 for months, wtf are you talking about tard?
>>751190727>3 new weather effects>rain>snowWhats the third one?Also, was i just unlucky or do night elf areas have no weather at all? this sucks
>>751210278i google kenshi, looks like niggershiti don't like WH3 genreand wardogs looks like CoD shit, but with another namei thought you'd recommend real games like smt, FF or anything worth playing
>>751210387Oh I agree with that, there are any number of better things to do with your time than play wow.
>>751210141why do you think this? people have jobs, people have social lives, i'm a huge WoW fan and i'm only level 6. plenty of people are taking their time with the game and rerolling alts. and blizzard created the campfire system so you can slow down and make friends in the game. you are fine
>>751210440You sound kinda fucking retarded, no offense. Maybe play FIFA or something?
>>751210440Are you a bot?
>>751210174Need For Speed Underground 2? That's what I'm playing.
>>751200520uhh fem taurens are hot
>>751210514>people have jobs, people have social livesnot the ones who are making it to 60 and raidingI think this cause straight up every fag from my retail guild, which is a fairly casual one with what I'd call the "average" WoW raider, is nolifing this shit with an average of 60 hours /played so far across around 30 people, 100% of them using RXP and Zygor and all that sweatmaxxed shit
>>751190727the weather being night/day/fog/rain makes me think of GTA3
>>751210630personal recommendation? FIFA is for mexicans and turbonormiesif you can't recommend something good, don't go around saying "pls dont play the game i hate pls"retard
>>751210417>>751190727answer me you fucking retard
>>751210925You dismissed kenshi; a game generally regarded as if not good then at least interesting as "niggershit". It'd be impossible to even guess the taste of someone like you.
>>751210174BURNOUT REVENGE FOR THE PS2
>>751211027Right now there's a flurry of redd*ors in world chat
>>751211082brother, this shit is south of midnight tiers of ugly niggershitnot to mention you recommending it was legit the first time i've heard about iti get you hate wow, i used to hate it too. i still hate retail, cause it's garbage. but i like wow forever. will it last more than 3 months? probably not. but in the meantime i'm playing it cause it's fun
>>751211283I hope things improve for you somehow
>>751191234Turns out people get bored when they're forced to level all their characters from zero for the third time.
>>751207636posts from 2004
>>751211502>forgot season of discovery was a thingfor the fourth time*
>>751211502>>751211553my prediction has always been that we'll see Marathon levels of drop-off over the coming weeks as people realize this "new" WoW classic rehash is 98% the same shit all over again, just made even worse by having the current year retail community in it
>>751211553sod doesn't count, you leveled at hyperspeed and it was fun server rules
It's funny seeing dinosaurs playing this saying it's be best game ever because... because, they removed... world buffs?Just play classic era and join a guild that doesnt use world buffs?Now they want yet another classic with no changes hating on anything new
>>751211732>look at what streamers are doing>they are all exploiting hyperspawns to farm exp in a group>with the odd one out doing roaming pvp in a large party and 1 shotting random alliance
>>751211771>Just play classic era and join a guild that doesnt use world buffs?you're a fucking retard bro, no way to sugar coat it
>>751209463>>751209601>>751209606When their behavior is called into question, the addict lashes out.
Play OctoWoW.
>The life of a wowdrone
>>751211771>Just play classic era and join a guild that doesnt use world buffs?yes, let me just hop onto a game that nobody plays, and then join a guild that nobody joins. whoah. Maybe incels should just go to the girlfriend factory where hot girls jump on incel cocks all day long.
>>751212017>play (other vanilla)No.
>>751211943>come to general for a game to cry about not liking the game>act offended when the people who like the game tell you to fuck off many such cases (you are not special)
>>751210417>>751211027Sandstorms you idiot, use google
>>751212051>Mob drop fetch garbage The game really hasn't changed at all.
>>751210414>new playersYou're beyond delusional if you think anyone who isn't high on nostalgia is playing wow in 2026.
looks like fftroons aren't taking everflop well and are taking it out on foreverchads
>>751207290>and that's the reason a larger player base came back for themNot only is this funny, but this "large player base" is already starting to die off, literally.
>>>>>>girls
>>751212546Wow's doing THAT bad, huh? Sheesh.
>>751212556You can talk all sorts of shit as much as you want, I only have to hit the O key and look and see there are 16 fucking people on my friend's list playing WoW right now where normally there'd be like 2
>explain to my normie friend all the ways the game is a pretty poor showing for something that's supposed to be built on/ape classic wow's philosophy >"umm it's not called classic though, it's called forever"
>>751211462recommending me shit games doesn't help
>>751212546do people actually play ffshit?
>>751212707btfo
>>751212787not anymore after yawntrail acked with their troon main character and the game went stagnant as fuck
>>751212546>>751212787>>751212860there are ff players ITT currently playing foreveryou can stop shadowboxing now
>>751212892you mean people who left ff14 cause it turned to shit and are now playing wow
>>751212102>use googleno
>>751212984those people quit retail and are waiting for ECand forever is really fun so far. stop treating games like soccer teams, you turdworlder
>>751212984nta but mmofags constantly jump games during down periods. even wowfags are playing forever because their iteration has no content atm.
>>751213141>those people quit retail and are waiting for ECLOOOLyeah sure they're waiting for no content and 1-1-1-1-1 combat
>>751190727/v/erming lost again. Sad!
One of the things on EU that I hate are people that speak other languages on general, party ect./whisper or do full party with your esl guild if you cba to talk in eng. I just finished a dungeon - ive got invited by normal english speaking tank and after I arrived suddenly all of them started to write in frog. Its fucking rude even if I understand some of it, why people dont know that? Also why the fuck you would want to be in a guild with your fellow natives? I always liked eng speaking ones because there would be multiple people all over the europe, it leads to funnier banter and it can even lead to some travel meetups.
>>751213239what >>751213145 saidpeople who aren't complete tribalistic retards will jump from game to game during lull periods, instead of being subbed to something with no content cause "if i don't resub, zivvies will win"i'd worry more about how far on the horizon TLT is and how little to no content Midnight has ngl, new silvermoon is dope, but that's it
>>751190727And yet for some reason I do not get bored like I do with retail
>>751201432making new armor looks really isn't that hard, and considering they'll be making each race a 30-40$ price tag, I think they can put in the effort.Sure, It's a lot of armor to rework, but who cares if plenty of them are reskins anyway?It's not like trolls and tauren don't have their own forms of armors.Hell, for naga they can make the boots and pants invisible. And ogres are just big humanoids.
>>751213362Mainland EU has been fucked by their entertainment industry forever by dubbing absolutely everything instead of subbing, both TV and games. Everyone in the north learned English as children by watching TV with subs and playing games in English.
>>751213557Post your retail logs
>>751190727Watched dist play it yesterday, he was yawning
>>751213726I don't know how to check that, do you mean the /played time? I probably have around 200 hours, last expansion I played was Legion
>>751213528Forever will be shit talked the moment The Last Titan news comes out.
>>751213726>if you don't play m+, you don't play wowAnd that's why Forever is so popular, it might put retail into the graveyard next year
>>751213659So every pair of boots and pants you ever get are fucking invisible? That would be beyond retardedand ogres are SO BIG that they would stretch the textures so you'd have to redo those too
>gifted some playtime>downloaded Forever>friend tells me dungeons in WoW are so much better than FF14, but can't really explain why>I level up enough to do that Ragefire cave under Orgrimmar>it's just a lava cave zone>we fight a hundred mobs>then we stop and my friend goes "Okay that was everything let's leave now">we just run out>dungeon didn't have anything interesting or even a cinematic finaleAre they all like this? I've done Wailing Caverns and the Werewolf one and so far it's just a million fucking enemies and then eventually there are just no more and we turn around and leave.
>>751213703I dunno, im from pl and Ive seen like 2 pl guilds already and number of fags that cant even name themsleves without throwing in some terrible pl jokes. Same goes with romania and french.I remember that during vanillia the spaniards were worst offenders, now it looks like my own country sadly.
>>751213842You sound like that retarded New World shill that went around shilling that jeet game saying "new world is gonna kill your game"After what they did in Midnight, it wouldn't surprise me if they cancel TLT to funnel that budget and playerbase into Forever
>>751213810lol, lmao evenOf course the faggot shilling forever has no idea how WoW works. If you played retail or classic you would know what logs are>>751213879M+ logs arent even commonly used unc, logs are mainly a raiding thing
>>751214020>umm akshually you didn't play the game retail is the real wow
>>751213940ya, basically?
>>751214020i don't really care about retail shitonly thing i'm saying is you're wrongalso, you must be feeling real shitty knowing forever is completely eclipsing retail
>>751213902How is it beyond retarded to skimp on work for a few pieces of armor on a new race that doesn't have legs or boots?I'd rather have an interesting race to play as rather than a new form of elf or just retail races coming to forever.And sure, they'd have to rework ogre armors as well, but it's way less work than making new sketches and model from scratch. Plus, Player models could be smaller, it wouldn't be a first.I don't even care about those, I just want to be a murloc and make funny noises
>>751214125>>751214140ESL momentLogs are standard fare in classic tooIts really embarassing for you shitskins to double down like this
>>751213940Best classic dungeons are BRD and scholomance in my opinion. They are most loreful and fun as for exploration, but most wow dungeons are just filled with trash mobs and few bosses. If you dont read quests/pieces of information about said instance, it will be just runing between bosses.
How do dungeons work in this thing? So far I've been just doing quests in the overworld.
>>751214221>in classicimagine playing that shit
>>751190727>It's literally just classic with 3 new weather effects and a new race for girlsTrue, I'm glad I refunded my shit 3 days before launch. We can't trust Blizzard/MS/Xbox. Also, we have so much more to play right now, what about Deadlock? PoE2? Switch 2 Emulation? Ps5 Emulation?
>>751214331Youre playing it right now favela monkey
>>751214385I tried to refund the $29 pack and it said I couldn't because I played it for too long (I fucking bought it yesterday)
>>751190727You are completely right.> They did also added some RMT.> They also added some dungeons.> Some new areas.> Changed items quite a lot.> They changed the classes quite a bit.For example:> You used to ONLY press frost bolt as a mage raidingThat type of stuff is gone.Tons more changes like this.Making a lot of specs more viable.
Why does playing WoW enrage people on /v/ so much? You don't see this sort of sperging out in other threads beyond 1 token schizo
>>751214548>They did also added some RMT.>did also addedthank you saaar
>>751214548is the feral druid cycle completely fucked still?
>>751214548Tell me what they changed for shadow priest or ele shamanIll give you a hint: fucking nothing
>>751214443>retailtroon thinks forever is classicholy shit, no wonder why you're sure that TLT will be good, you're clinically retarded
>>751214556We both know that's not true.I also wouldn't be surprised a bunch of the haters are in fact playing the game in one of its form anyway.Like the famed Hogwart Legacy boycott.
>>751214556it's funny cause is mostly retailfags and turtlefags the ones hating on forever
>>751214732This shilling is far too blatantYes its classic, this is just classic 5 or 6
>>751214787Probably because one is a fucking ghost town and the other is literally dead
>>751214548The changes for Rogue suck and make me want to play retail instead of this half measure of a class.
>>751214856>it's classic>but with new dungeons>tbc talent/spells>new quest>new race>new race/class combos>with new QoLtherefore, not classic
>>751190727Wanted to play so I looked up the talent trees for warriors.Looks pretty similar to classic, some changes here and there but nothing significant. Googled "wow forever solo self found" and it said not available yet. No hardcore mode - yet.HmmmmmmmmmmmmmI'll wait for now.
>>751214520wtf what a fucking scam
>>751214949Classic is pure shit to play these days, always was, but back in it's time it wasn't as dated.I'll be happy pretty much as long as they never add flying mounts in forever.
>>751214640Dunno, check sodapoppin stream if you don't want to buy for current developments.>>751214638No problem, my nigger.
>>751214913Sounded interesting to me.But I never played rogue. You dislike all the specs?Are you up to date?They did A TON after the beta.
>>751215091>I'll be happy pretty much as long as they never add flying mounts in forever.it'll happen, it's blizzard, they always fuck up somehow. the only question remaining is whenI tried era. the game is really painful to play without addons. but more importantly, during my first 12 levels, i probably came across 2-3 players. shits so dead is depressing.
hope you enjoy relisting your entire stack and paying 2g every time in ah jew taxes i undercut you by 1c i list one item you fucking faggot im going to do this all night
>>751207636Nice
>>751215251What item and realm? I will buy
>>751215159wtf, why? blizz is such a pussy company
>>751215159why did they nerf the tits, what?
>>751215217I got to 34. The sticking point is that combo points are tied to enemies instead of the player so it kills kidney shotting other mobs for CC and even gouging for CC because it eats your damage. Retail rogue is a much better experience and the changes they made to the class make it obvious that you're not playing classic rogue so it feels way worse.
>>751215159>>751215425Might be a bug from using the retail architecture for character models as NPCs still have boob physics (I've seen them)
>>751214949And LITERALLY none of it actually changes how the game plays unless youre Aggrends chosen class ret pally
>>751190727This game was never good.
>>751215159Ok... I just remember creating a rogue because I was tired of all the shit you had to do on rotation as a feral druid, and no one wanted you for shit anyway outside of Warsong Gultch flag carrying. Also fuck healing.
>>751215560the fact that i no longer have to choose between agony and elements?the fact that now i have a selfheal as a warrior?totemic recall? just to name a fewyeah, i'd say they are quite impactful in my personal experience
>>751215571Correct. It was always the social element that made it captivating.
>>751215746no raid level debuff management is totally fucking irrelevant
>>751215846
Don't care having a blast with my brother.Just hit 28 with him and doing Blackfathom Deeps tomorrow.
The "community" is so obnoxious that it makes me want to quit and not spend any money on this just to spite them, even if I wanted to play it
>>751202448is this asmongold's new gf?
>>751216708she's tectone's ex gf
>>751190727It's far worse. It also includes a bunch of random ass changes that would only be made by morbidly obese people who don't get enough oxygen to their brains, which result in shit like healer shortages, casters being largely unplayed, dungeon leavers, loot drama that didn't previously exist, pvp that's going to feature unhealable damage at endgame, eventual raid comp issues, and other shit.
>calls it classic+>adds less content to the world than TBC did in 2006>adds less content to the world than SoD
Being a caster is pain, the spell scaling is fucked so you do barely any damage compared to melee
>>751217292>world first 60 was a bunch of mages using green gear from level 20 Yeah that's not true at all
>>751217292Damage is fine, but you go oom quite fast. That's why wands are a godsend
>>751217414>5 man stack spamming arcane explosion on non-elitesAre you retarded? Serious question
>>751217570Okay dumbfuck retard do the same with a warrior get a 20 green weapon and try to spam cleave stupid fucking idiot
>>751217663How many additional targets does cleave hit, moron? Can warriors make their own food and water?
>>751215918its not moving the goal posts, it doesnt change the gameplay at all, youre still just throwing up dots and wanding for 60 hourstotemic recall doesnt change you from just spamming lightning bolt on end
Blizzard won
>>751217927>it doesnt change the gameplay at allyeah it does. the game is quite simple, changing how a spells works, changes a lotonly warlock has like 100 changes compared to classic
>>751218693it does not, as has already been explainedin fact blizzard fucked up the tuning lock is STILL going to be a shadow bolt bot
>>751218745you mean wand bot
>>751218745and btw, in midnight, forever and classic, demolock is a "shadowbolt bot" according to your logici'd call it class identity, but sure
>>751217041I told people the dungeon XP changes were the most retarded thing imaginable, and now look at what happened.
>ITT: "aiiieeeegh forever is draining my server from players!"
>>751218975these fuckers only act in the nowyou can tell them something self-evident and obvious, but they won't acknowledge it until it actually (inevitably) happenslike automatons
>>751202448Cody Lane blue room?
>>751218943in forever and classic it is a shadow bolt botin midnight shadowbolt is significantly less important for both damage and resource gen and youll be focused on hand of gul dan
>2030>People keep falling in Blizzard lies
