Do you guys think the game is going to survive and keep receiving content in the long run? Or is it going to die like sod once people realize that it's 90% the same game that's been around for 22 years, and the feeling of 'been there done that' kicks in? I've only played wotlk (Warmane Lordaeron), and from what I've seen, the class design and rotations seem like a significant step down.The extra quests seem like filler that anybody could've designed. The new zones don't seem particularly interesting, the existing zones have barely been changed, and professions still seem like a huge chore.I'm only really interested in the new dungeons, raids, and maybe world pvp, as well as the hope that they'll keep adding more content in the future. And yet, I have FOMO for the game.
>>751395124no. retail is peak wow
>>751395124>Do you guys think the game is going to survive and keep receiving content in the long run?i think they will keep adding stuff to it. the real question is, will any of it be good? considering its 2026 blizzard we have no reason to believe it will be good content.
it already got ruined by e-celebs before it left the beta
They utterly fucked over casters to the point where mage and priest are 2/3 of the least played classes in the game. You need hundreds of spellpower by level 40 in order to match Classic Era damage and Forever mobs also have increased health.
>>751395124its going to die but not as fast as sodsod was such a retarded shit with the staggered lvling and raids bosses with tbc hp values
>>751395124>PvP rule set already snowballing towards Horde>people coming in late can't make horde characters on PvP>Blizzard acknowledged the issue and that's only going to make it worseWell, I know at least one rule set will die in NA.
>>751395124All the autistic people will quit when they announce the store items.
There's nothing more immersion breaking on a roleplayer than someone, unironically, and seriously trying to roleplay a dwarf character with the first name Muhammed. It's not even a fucking troll since his last name is actually dwarf sounding and the guy's actually roleplaying but holy fuck man
>>751396168as a roleplayer*
>>751395124>I'm only really interested in the new dungeons, raids, and maybe world pvpthose are too hard to do, sorry. Now remember to do your daily grind, wagie and don't forget to resub.
>guise>GUISE>I WANT TO MEME AND POST BAIT ABOUT THIS GAME>COME MEME AND POST BAIT ABOUT THIS GAME>PLS POST YOUR BEST UNMONETIZED ENGAGEMENT BAIT WITH ME
>>751396168basedone ironforge under Allah
>>751395124No and the final nail in the coffin will be riot's MMO in a few years so tick tock WoW trannies
>>751396462>the riot mmofucking lmao lil bro2 more weeks
even these threads are slow, or are most of the posters layered to different boards?
>>751396634its kinda sad you idiots still think they are going to release it lol
>>751396637>even these threads are slowI've played the game non stop since releaseI've posted here like 5 times
>>751396539Inform yourself better lil bro, they have a stacked as fuck dev team now with lots of veteran devs of the OG World of Warcraft team who worked on WoW for over a decade now working on riot's MMO, devs keep teasing on X and seem to be very confident, there's a pretty high chance they want to reveal this on the 30th anniversary of League of Legends, if there's one MMO it has the chance of dethroning WoW it's this one
>>751395124I'm playing it now, haven't played wow since like 2010. If they start doing pride parades and shit again I'm outProbably not "if" but "when"
>>751395124wow forever is for pussies who like to play in a safe faggot space day care. People too fragile for what the game used to be. It's for cucks and bitch boys who would commit suicide if they experienced the internet 20 years ago.
>>751396787yeah I remember gc left the company and they hired that huge arab tranny lol but I don't know if he is still there>if too bad its never going to happen
>>751396904>too bad its never going to happenretard
>>751396996holy cope
>>751395124it's survival is in his hands.
>>751395124>THE BIGGEST LAUNCH EVER GUYS!>the data show less than 2m playersIt's already dying.>>751397075He is trying to kill the pvp servers now so he is going to get banned.
>>751395124no
The problem I'm running into is that the economy is absolutely unequivocally raped there is next to no way to properly turn a profit in the AH and skills cost fuckin a fuckload to train still just like in classic
>>751397045before they cancel this project they would rather shut down the entire company, it is happening, the question is just when
>>751396851If the game is shit it's not because blizzard won't let edgy retards roll names like Nate Higgers
>>751397252the real question is when they are going to cancel it
>>751395124RuneScape 4 and Riot MMO are the only two MMO games that might be good. If you are still playing WoW in 2026, you are mentally ill or/and have extremely bad taste in games.
>>751395124It is gonna survive alongside retail but it will not retain its current popularity
ZENEEEWEEENNNNEEEE HOOOOOPOGGERS IN THE LAIRWOW FOREVER WILL BE FOREVERPPC
>>751397314if they wanted to cancel it they would have done so a few years ago when it was basically a WoW clone but they went the extra mile and rebooted the entire dev process a few years ago because it was too much like World of Warcraft, this is how much riot wants this to happen and it will happen you can cope all you want but WoW's days are numbered
I think the design of "forever" is fundamentally unsound; there is something to be said about *slower* scaling such that at the limit Wolfshead Helmet, Thunderfury (if you did play feral cat, or were forced to AoE tank as a warrior, anyway) or Darkmoon Card: Blue Dragon are the best options in Sunwell Plateau, or in any event items like Bad Mojo Mask or Bladefist's Breadth punch well above their weight and stay relevant for a while. That is, you don't reset progress every single patch.But that's literally the design in vanilla and TBC as it is, and I don't think it's at all a coincidence that they had "four or so" raid tiers (depending on how you count troll raids, etc). Continuous vertical progression works fine if you were there from the start. But concerning new or returning players, even with slow vertical progression that doesn't immediately obsolete the previous tier, the gap between this player and a player who was there from the start is insurmountable. More, for the old players the old content is dead content (except perhaps for DST or some such, which they will target farm, not doing the rest, just like an enchanter in Wrath might grab vanilla haste enchant for holy paladin gloves and then ignore the rest). If you don't do a (soft) reset, then you have effectively stratified players to a point where they might as well be playing different expac, even if T6.5 Quel'Danas raid was technically level 60 content. The original designers undoubtedly recognized this, so in addition to adding catchup mechanisms (like buffed 5-man loot, Dire Maul, accessible blue PvP gear with competitive stats, small group side raids with loot disproportionate to the challenge, good BoEs crafted with raid mats, badges in TBC, etc), they had a soft reset.I expect Forever to wreck itself with its "forever 60" design, or reinvent expansions or Wrath+ style obsolescence of previous raids. Plus, insofar as leveling or such is the focus, that works better with seasonal servers.
>censored breast physics>no High Elves>no Goblins>no Dryad>no Dwarf mage>no Dwarf warlock>no Gnome hunter>no Human hunter>no Orc mage>no Tauren priest>no Troll warlock>no Undead hunter>no Dark Iron Clan, Wildhammer Clan, Demon Hunter, Dark Ranger, Blackrock Clan, Burning Blade, Dreadskull Clan, Grim Totem skins>no Ursan Heights>no Farstrider Lodge>no Forest Song>no Thalanaar>no Dun Agrath>no Hawk's Vigil>no Sorrowguard Keep>no Forlorn Summit>no Karfang Hold>no Alah'Thalas>no Blackstone Island>no Thalassian Highlands>no Northwind>no Balor>no Grim Reaches>no Gilneas>no Icepoint Rock>no Lapidis Isle>no Gillijim's Isle>no Moonwhisper Coast>no Tel'Abim>no Scarlet Enclave>no Hyjal>no Jared Voss>no Masterpiece Harvester>no Zandara Windhoof>no Vangros>no Velthelaxx the Defiler>no Duke Dreadmoore>no Brother Wystan>no Rotthorn>no Armory Quartermaster Daghelm>no Death Prophet Rakameg>no Zel'jeb the Ancient>no Champion Razjal the Quick>no Frostmane Hollow>no Dragonmaw Retreat>no Windhorn Canyon>no Crescent Grove>no Stormwrought Ruins>no Gilneas City>no Hateforge Quarry>no Black Morass>no Timbermaw Hold>no Stormwind Vault>no Emerald Sanctum>no Karazhan Crypt>no Tower of Karazhan>no Moonwhisper Coast>no Amberhorn Caverns>no Eversong Wastes>no Zul'Aman>no Ruins of Silvermoon>no Grim Batol>no new epics>no new crafting epics>no Sorcerer-Thane Thaurissan>no Broodcommander Axelus>no Ezzel Darkbrewer>no Cla'ckora>no Concavius>no Dark Reaver of Karazhan>no Ostarius of Uldum>no Nerubian Overseer>no Father Lycan>no Steamwheedle Blood Ring>no Draenei Exiles>no Dalaran>no Earthen Ring>no Silvermoon Remnant>no Durotar Labor Union>no Kul Tiras>no Hardmode raids>no Hardcore>no Traveling Craftmaser>no Slow and Steady>no Level One Lunatic>no Boarding Adventure>no War Mode>no Exhaustion>no Vagrant's Endeavor>no Trial of Heroism
>>751397483>you can cope all you wantironic...>WoW's days are numberedyeah they pretty much killed themselves with this forever shit but it was a good exit scam
New player here. Should I play PvE or PvP?
>>751395124nah another flavour of the monthI give it 1 new raid and then the game diesonly retail lives forever
>>751397161>He is trying to kill the pvp servers now so he is going to get banned.No but he can kill it any time he wants to.how does that make you feel?
>>751395352if retail was "peak" they wouldnt have to put out classic and forever
>>751397609Pvp server is already fucked unless you make horde
>>751397642>NoYes, he literally announced his plan on stream.
>>751397547Follow this guy on X then tell me again it's not happening, they're incredibly confident in the MMO
>>751395124It won't last, a better question is what will be their next spin to keep people subbing
>>751395124Look at SoD, that's Forever in two years.
>>751397814its not happening
>>751397684It's the fastest I've ever seen a pvp server die, the sheer overpopulation made the game unplayable and one side immediately dominant.
>>751397903Hardcore mode will keep forever alive for years to come.
>>751397860Exit scam, they now try to milk retards as much as possible before riot's MMO comes out
>>751397696>planning is bannable! it's a thought crime!!!malding kekBut I do hope blizzard tries to ban him so their entire company dies.
>>751397906Why are you like this?
>>751397994Considering how dumb he is he will probably try to coordinate the whole thing on stream.
>>751396787They were confident about their fighting game too.
>>751397980Riot hasn't gotten anything right in a long time and I'm not sure a new MMO is even possible at this point for anyone to make and have it be played
>>751397276Yes it is. It's of a piece. You ever heard of the principle "false in one, false in many?" It's like that. Shit in one, shit in many.
>>751397994you talk like an asmongold fan but you don't know he is doing this on purpose? he doesn't want to play it but he is trying to bait blizzard for content
>>751397161The PvP servers are perfectly capable of killing themselves as they've always done without fail after 2019 classic.
>>751398095Not really, what you fucking idiots don't realize is 2XKO was made by a basically brand new dev team with zero experience how to make a fucking game, completely different story when you compare it to the MMO where they have the best people of the company and lots of WoW veterans working on it, the MMO couldn't be in better hands, a literal dream team full of talent is working on this
>>751398175>you talk like an asmongold fanlet's just say I'm a fan of his effect on the gaming industry
>>751397684How fucked is it for alliance?That's what my friends had me do
>>751395124Of course it’s going to die, that’s the entire point of wow’s monetization cycle. The entire point is to repeatedly sell new launches. I don’t know exactly what the next product will be. If it’s Forever Season 2 Forever +, a true Classic+ with the actual Classic label attached. But it’s 100% designed to die so as to not compete with future $100 versions to play 3 days earlier with the heckin streamers. Most of their money is not in subs, it’s in launches and a small amount of whales who buy micro transactions.
>>751395124Itll die if horde continues to stay locked
>>751398232>The PvP servers are perfectly capable of killing themselvesyes but he doesnt want to play wow so this is his exit strat and it's pretty smart>>751398298he is just doing it for the content
>>751398423>he is just doing it for the contenti do not care lol
>>751398316It feels 2:8 right now but sometimes you get layered in a full alliance shard and you can play the game.
>>751395124itll be on maintenance mode in a year
>>751398119They haven't gotten anything right in a long time because they put all the resources meaning good devs on the MMO, nothing else matters amymore, sure they still have people working on LoL and Valorant but the main focus of the entire company is now on the MMO
>>751397938Blizzard flip flopped on the faction lock then decided to leave it in place after Horde was already going to be dominant. So now, Alliance is already fucked because Horde is already going to outpace them by dominating most layers and no new Horde players will be able to come in because Alliance will quit faster than new characters get created. Only thing they can do is remove the lock, nuke the rule set, and implement war mode.
>>751395124it's already dead and being propped up by streamer twatsthe devs are absolutely incoherent and clueless about what they are doing megaservers are a dagger to the very heart and soul of a classic mmorpg, they simply should have committed to being very proactive with merging dead and imbalanced servers down the line and not nickel and diming on paid transfers.
>>751395124WoW forever sucks its run by nu blizzard trannies, microshart indian faggot trannies, faggot loser streamers, and the community is all gay boomer losers and trans faggots.
>>751397938The mega server bullshit fucked everything.>>751398632The alliance players are leaving en masse to the pve server.
>>751397373>runescape>riot mmoLMAO enjoy your shitty tranny faggot shitter mmo's
>rerelease the same thing that has died quickly multiple times before
>>751397474I use to like watching this guy cause he is a funny clown but the cracks started to see he hates to lose and plays like a little bitch faggotwhen that orc rogue destroyed him he showed his true personality a little whiny bitch loser
I genuinely don't know what they will do if they aren't going to follow retail's expansion and story progression.
>>751395423>You need hundreds of spellpower by level 40 in order to match Classic Era damagePost your kill times
>>751398753>The alliance players are leaving en masse to the pve server.So its just 4 pve rulesets then
>>751398842Both RuneScape 4 and Riot MMO are 100x superior to WoW and Nu-Blizzard.
>>751398987always was
>>751398956They are retrofitting retail content, high elf was suppose to be a release race but they will take current quelthalas, change all the quests/npcs and sell it.
>>751395124The game is only "good" right now because its 99.9% classic, over time as more and more of the retail stink starts to get on it, it will swiftly turn to shit. Once they start selling mounts, that's when the downhill shitball will start.
World PvP in WoW is the real you think you do but you dont
>>751399092What's even the point of sky elves then?
>>751398956theyll just port shit from retail but give it 5 bear asses questsgilneas is accessible in game and its just copied from cataclysm
It could have been the next OSRS but they fumbled it on step one by adding blue elves instead of High Elves to Alliance and Blood Elves to Horde.They shot themselves in the foot in a way only Blizzard could.
>>751399117Well, when you stuff 800 players into narrow ass zones like Ashenvale, yeah, it quickly turns to shit. Blizzard never intended more than 100 people in a single zone and designed the game accordingly.
>>751399112You already see shitty retail mounts everywhere and the game is a week old
>>751398842>LMAO enjoy your shitty tranny faggot shitter mmo'sbut enough about WoW.
>>751399175Boosting the release numbers and give the elf model to the horde.
its kino
>>751398753And that's a good thing. World PvP is a meme unless you're playing a survival game with actual resource implications. The rule set doesn't deserve to exist and the troglodytes who insist on it deserve to have the death of it shoved in their faces when they whine about 8 hour BG queues in a few months. God I hope Blizzard doesn't merge battle groups across rule sets.
https://x.com/Grummz/status/2120360374423924945NEW NUBLIZZARD SCANDAL
>>751399287>God I hope Blizzard doesn't merge battle groups across rule sets.That's 100% going to happen.
>>751399331>twitter faggotry
>>751399186The real problem is that elves were the great equalizer for faction balance. WHen you give the horde elves everyone loses
>>751399197yeah vanilla was not designed to have a thousand people per zone in it and i dont know why they keep trying to force it
>>751398842>LMAO enjoy your shitty tranny faggot shitter mmo'sdoes runescape have tranny mode like wow?
>>751399331>they want to cure cancer
>>751399268
>>751399439They were supposed to equalize the factions by editing the races and classes.
>>751399514The alliance players worship this guy and they are going to melt if they ban his ass.
>>751399117100% true, having said that I'm still gonna play on PvP
>>751399590well I hope you like the horde
>>751399268>>751399529Yeah WoWfags should be the last people to complain about woke shit, nu-blizzard is as woke as it can get
I think the most important thing will be for the devs to stick to their vision of this explicitly NOT being classic and making new content and changes that fit into the original aesthetic and design language. Classic already exists for the autists that want to play it, there should be no pushback in trying to keep forever as close to classic as possible, the entire point is for it to have new content
>>751399567Good. The sooner the better. There is 0 hope for the game ever hitting any kind of favorable state if an entire faction is artificially propped up by one guy
>>751399438Worse, it's twitter grifter faggotry
>>751395361The layering bit at launch fizzled out fast and I see players in every bit. Probably might be a miniscule dip once the friend code period expires but upkeep content-wise is enough to warrant it.The only matter is introducing content into its classic-centric enviroment that compliments the gameplay and presentation that defined classic in an diverging matter without undermining or overscoring day 1 elements that were the core selling points for its active subscribers.Personally interested to see what classes from their survey poll they're gonna add first since it's one of the bigger steps of testing the water with the player. Raw copy of an existing class like Death Knight playing on familiarity from non-classic aspects would put it low, embracing a newer spectrum of capabilities that compliments all solo, group and raid aspects of the core game would be cool (Personally hoping for the Bard to be added).
>>751399629Likes getting gang raped by horde? Anon is never getting past the faction lock.
>>751398956well, not fuck the lore up for starters.
>>751399952>well, not fuck the lore up for starters.>after blue elveskinda late for that
>>751395124It will die faster than New World
>>751395124imma be real with you negro, as a level 60, this game is dead within a month or two
>horde needs elves for population balance!lol, lmao
It just feels like Classic WoW, but with a bunch of immersion breaking retail shit splattered all over it. All the retail players that would never play Classic, but will tolerate it from all the convenience changes and cash/shop tranny mog shit will just end up quitting once they hit max level. They will get rapidly bored of raid logging very easy raids, meanwhile the classic purist won't end up liking how much they diverted from the original design philosophy.
>>751400219It's a genuine capitalistic concern. There are people who won't buy a sub if there are high elves and no blood elves.
>>751399331that blizzard and assmongler hate each other will always be funny to me
>>751399180I mean what else could it be?
>muh contentI literally dont give a fuck about content and everyone who thinks WoW is about content should fuck off. The game should go in the direction of player generated content and seasonal experiences. Rather than new dungeon of the month slop which is just what retail is.
>>751400212do you have to do a quest for the epic mount?
>>751400429for both, yes, this is level 40 mount and its a simple free quest, not so for lvl 60
>>751400410
>>751400426You mean anniversary? It's dead.
>>751400410turtle wow made a version of gilneas that was actually designed like it would be in vanillanublizz devs could never
>>751400306>hey blood elves racial is nice>create 4-5 blood elves>nerfed>nerfed>nerfed>nerfed>nerfedi should have learned with vanilla and forsaken but well my first char was always my main/forsaken and my second char was always a troll
>alliance cucks too weak for PvPlmao I saw this shit coming
>>751400212>that disgusting looking anti-soul gas you can't disablelmao
>>751400553They get acked in every pvp server but they still pretend they will dominate the next fresh
>>751400519>>751400537Gilneas doesn't look out of place in Warcraft. That's not when the artstyle went to shit.
>>751399180>>751400410>>751400537Behold....Cata Gilneas but now with....ANTI SOULS GAS
>>751400553Roll alliance then pussy.
>>751395124Dude, this is the “official” private fresh, and it's going to die just the same.
>>751400541>posting retail
>>751400609where did this stupid trend come from
are they going to add old goblin models?
>>751400714Ray tracing.
>>751400709>Retail isn't WoWOk retard.
>>751400241give an examplethe game is a lot more immersive to me, weather effects look great the campfires are great. gameplay-wise, the classes feel more fun. the game has never looked better and never been more immersive them adding things like the torch was brilliant. the new quests make the zones better too
>>751400553hordefags will always be like "heh alliance players are such carebares" yet they will only ever roll pvp on servers where horde are a clear majority
>>751400704Turtle lasted a decade.Forever won't last a year........
>>751398746welcome to blizzard games.
If Forever has proven anything, it's that this place has lost all of it's power. All the impotent crying and seething and the game is doing record numbers. 4chan has no cultural significance anymore. Utterly cucked.
>>751400780according to blizzard it's their biggest launch with the most returning players, turtle wow was mostly populated by people that just didn't want to pay the sub
>>751395124I hope it does well, containment games are essential to keep retards away from good games
>>751395423A weapon from RFC on its own already gives me 20 sp
>>751400842>according to blizzard it's their biggest launchAnd according to the data there are only around 2 million players so that's a lie is not even close to wotlk and wod.
>>751400426agreed. Imagine if new content only came in the form of EVENTS that occur within the world rather than needing new areas to expand into. Thats a more based way of doing things. Think about like the events leading up to the dark portal opening. I remember there was some cool shit going on like a demonic invasion type shit in azeroth. You can just keep doing that. Make the darkmoon fair a big deal again. Add lots of other events. Do another contagious disease event (this time on purpose). Maybe do a quirky event where you have like an easter egg hunt and put really good loot out there in little easter eggs for people to find. Whatever man there are a billion events you could do and I find these a lot more fun than. >enter the new raid and get the better gear again
>>751400842>according to blizzard
sry but I'm already playing the real classic plus experience
>>751399175they could be made in 10 minutes without too much work and the game JUST HAD TO RELEASE RIGHT NOW DON'T YOU GET IT? DADDY WANTS A NEW ROLEX. NOOWWWW!!!
>>751400808>4chan has no cultural significance anymore>nobody does any OC meme anymoreYea it's shit even reddit is better.
>>751400586WHAT? YOU'RE TELLING ME YOU LIKE SEEING MORE THAN A FEW FEET IN FRONT OF YOU?
>>751400969Microsoft is going to wring them dry.
>>751400808Third worlders.
>>751400908they haven't given any data, it's pretty obvious this is their biggest launch since like cata
>>751397653vanilla is peak ice cream you still want strawberry once in a while
>>751400842>engagement metrics1 MAU has been deposited into your account
>>751400808>>751400974wtf do you expect, chan was niche back in the day with filled with proper NEETsnow its filled with jeets, zoomers and bots that post culture war ragebait and xitter screenshotsthose old channers got old and got on with their lives
>>751400764I was going to roll horde regardless of that. I have played undead since I was a literal middle schooler. I was never even going to research who is more populated or whatever bedause I simply am a horde player in my heart
>>751400936you sound like a big fan of gw2
>>751395124I DID IT MORTYI TURNED MYSELF INTO A PICKLEabsolute state of blizzard
>>751401072actually never played it. but if it works like then its a shame I didnt.
>>751401026>they haven't given any dataAnd they are not going to release any real data just fake metrics counting the 1 week accounts as real players.>it's pretty obvious this is their biggest launch since like cataCata wasn't the biggest launch so that's irrelevant.
>>751401065>those old channers got old and got on with their livesThe board was unironically better when we just did console war shitposting all day. But no, we can't do that we must talk about boring shitty video games all day nofun allowed.
>>751400808the game is dead thoughbeit
>>751401095seriously the third wall breaking mage scrolls are so fucking unbelievably fucked to have in this game. It violates every principle that the original game was made with which was supposed to be the goal of preserving with forever Your world has to take itself seriously if you want players to have any immersion at all
>>751401141Hmm who should people trust, the company that runs the game and have all the data available or some fat retard on /v/
ive been playing nothing but wowforverdd2, cd, wtcher 3 remasterall still in my backlogbut wowforever is so comfy
>>751401249Very convenient!
>>751400808>anymore>election tourists think this website ever had cultural influence(this is the word you were looking for, jeet)
>>751401197>zugzug tards can't build brickhousesLOL
>>751401342>lil zoomie comments on shit he wasn't there forcute! good goy! you're a good little goy aren't you? aren't you?
>creditcard required to sub>blizzard offers PayPal as an alternative>still requires a creditcard when you try to pay with PayPal
People asking for the game to look outdated is really funny. It's a corpos wet dream to spend as little money on art as possible.
>>751401440>fell for a Jeffrey Epstein and Steve Bannon psyop>calling others goy
>>751401484art doesnt cost money anymore chud we have AI for that
>>751401141cata probably was the biggest launch even if everyone hated it
>>751400764They didnt become a majority by not rolling on it
>keep receiving content in the long run?Hell fucking no, Blizzard is awful at consistently releasing content updates
>>751401546Yeah it did wonders for the Warcraft 1-3 remasters didn't it?
>>751401556not him but no the biggest launch was wod as everyone fell for the tbc2 hype, 12 million players.
>>751401374who opened the dark portal? oh right Medivh did, a human, so if you don't like immigrants so much maybe you shouldn't open portals to immigrant worlds dumb allyfag
>>751401484its a mmorpgyou can't have a mmorpg looking really good with mmorpg thingsbut then i guess you like boring 2vs2 boring shit or small 40 raids
>>751401581And thats a good thing. Content fags are retarded and should go play a different game
>7 days trial ends up tomorrow>still cant decide if i wanna commiton one hand, im having a <BLAST> playing this, getting the nostalgia hit especially with how alive the world isOn the other, Im starting to remember how much of a slog vanilla actually was, how fucking DOGSHIT the endgame is and the fact that im not 12 anymore so I dont wanna grind profs or flasks for 16 hours every day just to raidlog in the most basic ass raid.That, and the fact that I just know that this will start dying in a month or two, like every single time blizz releases something in the last decade and a half and knowing its run by modern blizz im really not optimistic.What do, boys...
>>751401648I guess it has to look like shit forever. Tauren women still don't have eyes in their portraits.
https://classicarmory.gg/forever/censusthe free trial really propped up forever
>>751401484>blizzard releases a expansion>hardly looks different from the previous one>now you must waste 800 bucks in a gpu because blizzard added some dust shitty effect that reduces your fps by 50that happened sometime
>>751401754well no, since blizzard is have been care of removing every mmorpg aspect of their mmorpg game since tbc release
>>751401792Worked on my machine.
>>751401715I will play because I enjoy battlegrounds. I can have fun running warsong gulch forever. But yeah leveling might take me a year. I pretty much plan to just play for an hour or so a day while I am mostly listening to a podcast.
>>751401862>since blizzard have been taking care of removingi'll just go take a shower
>>751401792if your pc drops 50 fps then you are playing with a potato, Dun Morogh looked incredible
>>751401862So what's the fucking problem? Add more hd model shit, add high resolution textures, make this look like it should cost $15 fucking dollars a month.
>>751401971I dont like it when my PC has to work at all. When I hear the fans spinning it gives me anxiety for some reason. WoW was always meant to be played on a potato anyway
Just made a new orc hunter yesterday and I've been having a blast
>>751395124It's going to die and get memoryholed in a couple years once they realize how many ways the game is underwhelming and want another shot at making Classic+. I have no idea why they jumped into it like this without really having a proof of concept at all.>first attempt is SoM>barebones just some cheevos and shit added>try to really delve into some turtlewow type new vanilla with SoD>has some good ideas but overall not very good and dies quicklyAt that point they should have just trotted out another seasonal server and perfected the formula. Forever could have been so much better if they had more practice behind their vision of C+There's also just the standard blizzard problems of terrible servers that can't handle large numbers of people without needing to layer (even though they could do this fine 10-15 years ago, lost tech I guess).
>>751396787I audibly groaned reading your post I hope cinderblocks fall on your head
>>751402146They have sold classic four fucking times and every time it has died and people hype up the next release. I cannot comprehend the mentality of a Blizzfag.
>>751402146Most people don't want to talk about how RUSHED this new server is but I think MS is going to gut them if they don't reach X metric, what they did on retail support the theory.
>>751402246I am hoping they get gutted, a fucking Starcraft game 5 years out in development is the writing on the wall that Blizzard is fucked. Time is a flat circle.
are the horde racials utter bullshit still?
Blizzard burned through 4 fucking CEO's within 6 years and people wonder why their games suck.
>>751402049the new client is really fucked upi run this game worse than fucking cyberpunk somehow. my PC isnt great, but I can play Cyberpunk on ultra with at least 60 fps and this dorps me to sub-30 when I lick all the graphic options on 10 somehow. Someone said that the nvidia drivers that just released double the fps, but had no impact for me. Baffling how something this ugly can be so heavy on older PCs
>>751402309>I am hoping they get guttedThey are not getting gutted this time, forever saved them but the next quarter? Who knows they sacrificed retail for this so they have to rush the forever store now.
>>751402369will of the forsaken is the best racial as far ask I know. having 2 pvp trinkets when everyone else has 1 is just huge
>>751402415If your pc can't run this, it definitively can't run cyberpunk on ultra, it's impossible
>>751402664i mean, im running it, im palying it right now, but had to lower the graphics, im getting solid 80+ fps now, and probably will get 120+ if i lower even more, but yeah, this new client has some retardedly heavy particle or whatever effects it seems. and yeah, i ran cyberpunk with almost everything on ultra an ~60 fps with no issues a few years ago on the same shitty pc
>>751401971it was only in raidsexplain me why it ran perfectly fine on 40vs40 in wintergrasp but 20 retards fighting a oversized troll drops to 20fps
>>751397653what does it matter? at what point does forever not become retail since this shit is some retard's fan wank custom content
>>751401978>make this look like it should cost $15 fucking dollars a month.nothing would make any game worth 15 bucks a month
new models are nice for human shemales
>>751402776Its the volumetric fog and probbly running both old and new graphic, like WC3 reforged
>>751402982Do their beasts jiggle though?
>>751403153nah
>>751402982what the fuck are those proportions?
>>751403212a woman.
>>751400808>he believes what nu-blizztard saysNGMI
retail dropped 41% as soon as forever was released, nobody wants to play midnight
>>751401045I only eat lemon sorbet. If its not lemon sorbet I wont touch it
>>751400808the 7 day trials all end up tomorrow, watch the drop off
redditors that complained of layers feeling too empty need to fucking kill themselves. Fighting for slow spawning mobs FUCKING SUCKS.
>>751395124>biggest WoW launch of all time>"g-guyz dO yOu tHinK it's gOinG to lAsT?"
>>751404492the real people who need to kill themselves are those who decided to put everyone on one server
>>751404492play a single player game clown
>>751404647That literally wouldnt matter if layers were tweaked so zones arent always overpopulated you idiot.
>>751404647>mmorpg shouldn't be a mmorpg
>>751404559Prove the numbers, you can't
>>751404696Go hang yourself goy cattle
The free trials end later today. Let's see the real population numbers then.
>>751395124SoD 2, with perhaps even worse retention
>just logged it 5 mins ago>instantly see thisits already over huh
>>751405048the token will fix it t. blizzard
Look at this fucking bullshit. Not a single centaur in sight. Its a massive spawn area too.
>>751402309What is that, Nietschze? Shut the fuck up.
>>751402086Why are they naked
>>751405269>going to desolace when riverglades existsYou're playing with RestedXP tards, by the way
>>751405857>not doing the new centaur repsprofessionless faggot detected
>>751395124It will be abandoned. The launch has been mediocre and plagued with annoyances and raids will be launching against people playing GTA 6 and the PoE 2 free release. It's basically the GTA waiting room game.
>>751405857Whats that?
>>751405943Yeah, I went double gathering profession. I'm also ahead of you by 10 levels and have a mount. Enjoy the grind for what I assume is going to be okay level 45 blues
>try to fight two alliance babies in the barrens and a solo warrior>they run awayFaggots
>>751397536Breast physics at the top of your list tells me everything I need to know about you and I stopped reading. Your opinion on anything, whether gaming related or otherwise, is invalid. Go play CoD or Roblox or Brown Dust.
>>751406123as a solo warrior*
>>751406052its literally not a race lmao
>>751406038Just a mod that tells you the most efficient way to level. I personally don't use it.
Feels like RPPvP is just becoming the Alliance PvP server and no one really RPs.
>>751397536N00b here. How many of these were in tbc classic?
>>751406225ah ok yeah i dont care about that. I will use Questie though.
>>751406257>alliancetroons need to hide in RP-PVP>they probably say they play PVPSAD!
>>751406223retard what?
>>751404709>>751404759you are the fucking idiots. putting everyone on one server kills the concept of an MMO. When a server gets too big the game goes back to being a single player game as everyone becomes just random transient NPCs. Its the same effect where you will always be more lonely in new york city and some town population 30 thousand.
I want the retail customization optieons
The entire pvp faction imbalance was caused by elves being available for both factions and the fact nobody wants to deal with some faggot YouTuber and his faggot fans
>>751406456Not it doesn't. You're just retarded
>>751406550smarter than you faggot. youll never have a reputation in forever if you arent a streamer
its closer to sod than classic + (turtle), hard to deny that. i feel hc is going to be a breeze.
assmon runs this game btw
>>751406646Ok who cares
>>751406456On the flip side of this arbitrary segregation kills a player base just as easily
>>751406693Everyone who isnt retarded. The point of an MMO is to be able to have a reputation. The layered 1 server idea is DARK SOULS not an MMO
>>751406751No it isnt
>>751406541That's a problem created by mega servers, you used to be able to just avoid going to the streamer or reddit servers but now every server is a streamer/reddit server.
I think one big mega server is absurdly stupid, but I also think that 10+ small ones doesn't work either. You need like 2 or 3 per ruleset
>>751406768Yes it is. Thats what differentiates an MMO from dark souls or any 1 player game. You are just too autistic to understand why MMOs exist
>>751406942You have a reputation for being a cock sucking faggot and a retard. Personally I don't think thats a good thing.
>>751406661he doesnt play anymore
>>751406937I think they should aim for servers to be whatever size they were in vanilla. Maybe go 1.5x just so faggots dont start crying about dead servers. Then they can merge them based on player count while retaining the right to split them back into their parts if there are spikes in popularity.
>>751407021>childish faggotry when he knows he has been proven wrong lol
>>751406661go back, underage tranny
>>751407125There is nothing to prove. We just have a fundamental disagreement on what to value. The only thing your care about is some stupid server reputation you gained for being a faggot nobody likes. Personally I don't give a shit about that.
>>751407218No its not the case that we are equals who have a different opinons. You are wrong and I am right. Because the game is an MMO. Whatever you are saying you value is not fundamentally a part of MMOs and so you should fuck off and play a different game.
>Here's your MMO, bro
>>751396787>they have a stacked as fuck dev team now with lots of veteran devs of the OG World of Warcraft teamOh boy! Mark Kern, the developer of the famous and successful MMO known as FireFall will be working on the Riot MMO! Take that, Blizzard and Square!
>>751407338>my subjective retard opinion is a factUh no
>>751407359lmao get fucked
>>751407359just roll on a different serv- ACK
>>751395124It's just Classic+. The game's centered around the grueling leveling experience. At 60 everything turns into a complete joke and they've said that the design philosophy is for the game to be casual enough for anyone to log in and clear a read without much trouble. They phrased it something along the lines of having a beer with old friends. It's gonna hemorrhage players when they discover it's not actually gonna be the OSRS of WoW.
>>751396168sounds pretty funny, a muslim dwarf lmao
>>751395124>do you think addicted retards will keep supporting blizzard?Yes.
stop asking me for summons unless you immediately offer logistics+payment terms fuck off i am not purple taxi i have feelings too
>>751401451What absolute shithole of a country do you live in where a normal fucking debit card can't be applied? Do they just not have normal banks where you live, Ranjeesh?
>>751407338If your weren't a obnoxious retard and where allowed near other people, you could just join a guild for your "reputation".Though I suppose being the special kid that can't get into any guild is a kind of reputation too.
>>751407027If asmon has given up on forever it's truly over.
>>751407587lol what did raiderfags expect? you already have your gear treadmill raid of the month system that you want in retail.
>>751407624Theres no other reason to bring a warlock then.
>>751401451Can't you use your debit card? Or are you a child with neither?
>>751407639Server wide reputation is way better than being known among our guild. Also being liked among your guild requires pro social behavior which I do not do
>>751407806>pro social behavior which I do not doI knew it. All the more reason to dismiss your retarded opinion about servers vs layers.
>>751407705i mean when im out questing>hey can you can go to the next zone over and summon me?apparently this is the kind of shit locks get telled
>>751407947Ah ok then in that case yeah, fuck off unless you pay me.
>>751399529retail looks like a chink f2p MMO at this point
>>751407934lol I am objectively right. Go play on your reddit PVE server alliance side and complain about there not being enough hecking content for you raid. Faggot bitch
>>751407359Don't care. PvP servers were a mistake. Play alliance or play PvE lmao.
how much of the "new" content in WoW forever is just the parallel world content?guess we won't know anytime soon
>>751407797>>751407638I wasn't able to use debit to sub to the game, I didn't notice untill later that they also offer gametime in their shop which you CAN buy with debit, but they don't really present this option to you. Why not add that option in the main screen? Are they that desperate for subs?
WTF is up with turning in Sealed Crates not giving Commerce faction rep?You can only hope to gain rep by turning in random writs you find?
>>751408846I dunno what Euro regulations are fucking you but over here I could do most credit card payments with my debit card. I'm an adult and have a credit card though.t. Leaf
>forked over 20 bucks and was bored after 2 minutes
If you were paying any attention to the beta, you'd know this shit was doomed from inception.
>>751408890no, your only hope is turning in writs that you purchase from the auction house. get ready to swipe that credit card, baby!
>>751408389completely backwards. PVP is the only reason to play the game. I honestly have no idea how PVE incels find it fun to just do raids. Raiding is so fucking gay
>>751408985Don't you know? Europe has the values of the Talmud, but we don't really do creditcards like you do.I'm buying 2 months sub time tomorrow though so I'm excited.
>>751409164damn son u retarded
>>751409164Yeah the magic just isn't there anymore. I think we all know it was gonna happen, but held out a little hope.The modern community is just full of RXP troons speedrunning the game and sucking all the fun out
>>751409218Then play alliance. You'll have no shortage of pvp. You're not a fucking pussy are you?
>hotfix, enemies in dungeons give 50% more xpYeah this was just a pile of shit from day 1, it's balanced to be classic with worse grind than classic. Classic already had the maximum possible ratio of grind to fun.
>>751409575I would never play alliance as I am not a fag or redditor
>>751408413BY THE WAY, I hope FFXIV doesn't do this.Don't start giving us parallel world content, keep it behind the secret, and tell us how to do it.
>>751395124I expect them to make terrible decisions, they wont reign in their woke employees, and I will not renew my sub. In the mean time, I will try to have fun despite everything.Just ran stockades like 5 times as a druid tank. Had fun. Some very well geared hunter got an incredible ring and shoulders I wanted really bad.But I got some okay upgrades.Prob gonna run it some more later.
>>751409745Only wanting to play the overpowered overpopulated faction sounds like some fag redditor behavior to me buddy.
>>751409164I'm glad I snagged a friend trial because it didn't do anything for me either. I'm not sure what happened, WoW ruined my life back in the day. It was worse than crack to me, now it doesn't have that same spark it used to. Maybe it's the era+ changes this time because TBC classic had me pretty hard.
Was gonna buy it but there seems to be a lot of negativity online surrounding it (faction imbalance, game is going to die fast, people are quitting at level 30 cause it's just a slog etc). I did play SoD but I levelled pretty fast due to spamming those ghost instances and running through spamming the quests. I'll wait and see for now. I dont have any other MMOs to play at the moment I'm bored asf.
>>751409575>Then play allianceBro go eat spider pie.
>>751410034>people are quitting at level 30 cause it's just a slogthis will be a big one. People are finding out right about now that classic leveling is easily like a month-long affair if you're casual, and if you're not a RXPtranny finding shit to do gets tiresome because the old zones aren't streamlined like in retoiletMost free trials are going to be ending right about now too, so we're gonna see a huge drop-off IMO. GTA6, regardless of what people think of it, will make it all the more worse later in the month too.
>>751409745You sound like a coward that just wants to bully the underpopulated faction.
>>751409846I was a horde before you were born
>>751407359What's the issue? Alliance is right there.
>>751410526ok and? guess you better learn 2 alliance.
>>751410526So was I. So what? Try something new faggot and don't contribute to server imbalance.
>>751409849>WoW ruined my life back in the day. It was worse than crack to meI kind of feel the same.idk why I wasted so much time in it desu.
>>751410405>finding shit to do gets tiresome because the old zones aren't streamlined like in retoiletIt feels bad when you don't use a guide because you keep getting sent back to the same places over and over again and it feels so bad to double back to a place you just cleared out. Retail got questing right, I dunno why a classic+ iteration of the game didn't change up quest flow somewhat and also make all the dropped quest items shared.
>>751409745>PvP or bust bro>This faction is currently unavailable on this ruleset due to population imbalance.>NOOOOOOOOOOO NOT LIKE THAT AIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEE 4CHAN SISTERS SAVE ME
>>751410769it's just dumb unc shit. Stupid millennials thinking the same 2004 experience that was fun then because of reasons you'll never get in 2026 will be fun now. That, and Blizzard being fucking lazy
>>751401630You mean the guy who wasn't acting on his own free will? That guy? Horde fags need to go back to being edgy retards that larp about lore, oh wait! They still are! Fucking feral ape nigger.
Blasthavers...?
>>751411083and yet we have proven to be the dominant faction. You flee in terror before the horde. Kneel and slurp
>>751411264We? You're population locked bro. You dont have a horde character yet.
>>751409745You've got it backwards in 2026 bro. PvP alliance are turbo chads who pick the underdog faction because they just want to be a purple elf no matter the hardships. PvP horde players are cowards who want hollow victories served to them on a silver platter
SoD was much more fun than this.
>>751411224Haved
>>751411481What happened to it?
>>751411557They stopped development.
>>751411557Blizzard stopped updating it. Gold sellers and bots ran rampant. The usual really.
>>751410759it's cause these games used to be about the social experience. It's not uncommon for older players to have made lifelong friends or even found gfs/wives in shit like OG WoW or EverQuest and such back in the 2000swe've of course lost that element completely in the modern day, so these things are just useless skinner boxes with no real upside to the time investment
>>751411557all the WoW classics were just a build-up to Forever, both so blizz could test meme shit and also keep the goyim occupied until Forever was cooked enough to announce
>>751395124Its going to be around for awhile. Its blizzards in house answer to classic+ private servers and they want to attract people from that scene who are tired of losing all their effort and progress.
There is something fucked with the game though. All the zones im in are full of people but the dungeon lfg system only shows 1 or 2 active parties for the dungeon in my level bracket.It really captures that vanilla feel of never being able to do a dungeon when I want.
>>751411983it's even worse than vanilla ever was. Back then you at least had a chance of getting a rando group
>>751411983I list myself as a healer and get groups instantly even though i dont see them in the LFG page
>>751412249at least they also nailed that part about vanilla, cause for every 1 healer there's 10 tanks and 100 dps, same as back then
>>751412359I dont understand why. Like 50% of the horde are undead paladins. Should be plenty of heals and tanks
>>751412509You cant level as holy so youll need STR gear which makes your healing suck.
>>751412548lol we really need specced healers to run wailing caverns
>>751411983Dungeon exp is terrible. There is no incentive to level as a pure tank or pure healer because those dungeons you'd spam are not viable over just going a DPS build and questing. So, no one is gonna tank or heal.
>>751412620Im lvl 38. You're not healing SM armory with Ret pally gear unless the group is extra careful
>>751412808damn thats lame
>>751412631What?Most druids level as feral and your leveling spec is essentially the tanking spec.Both prot paladin and warrior are now good for leveling and you see plenty of them. There are plenty of tanks around. But like the other guy said, there's something fucky with the LFG. It must be layered as well or something. Yesterday I waited 20 minutes for a single dps for RFD. There was literally no one. Finally I found one via barrens chat.
>>751397506This is something a lot of long term RPG players picked up on during the reveal. It sounds like only a novice or a team with no understanding of RPGs could market this game around being 60 forever. But by then Blizzard will probably rug pull the game and move on to the next seasonal Classis server.
>>751410405Then you get to 60 and realize it's the most mindless content ever that even LFRtards would find too easy and it's over.
>caved and bought the skelfs>their region is fun>my character is cute29 euro well spent
People were complaining there were barely any new quests but almost every quest I have is new. Was I baited? I burned a token I had sitting in my retail character's bags to try it out
>>751411640perhaps you're right.I only ever played with people I knew in real life, incl my brother.
>>751412548you can, holy rapes
>bought beta access and skelves>hate how they look like retail>heard Blizzard is gonna make an SD version>make a skelf anyway>still hate how their models just don't fit the classic aestheticI'm gonna wait longer
>>751395124yeah pve will survive
>>7513965392 more decades, actually
>>751411983People are really only doing dungeons once, so there's not a huge amount of groups. I think the f2p friends get cut off today too so the population is going to plummet. 1 paypig could bring in 3 friends so the population was super inflated.
did a wsg (lost) and apparently honor vendors are all missing?
I regret going with druid already. Fuck this cuck class it can't do anything.
>>751418364you're just bad
>>751401197filler bots
>>751395423Is that why my 32 spriest struggles to kill shit? I thought I was having a harder time than I remember.
>>751419023>Watching shamans and ferals 4-shot shit>At the same level, I have to tickle the same shit using 3/4 of my mana, assuming none of my spells miss, which they always do.I regret going priest.
>>751396168muslim dwarves dig all their tunnels towards mecca
>>751395124Megaservers utterly, completely, rape and destroy any ounce of soul this game has. This one single decision completely irreparably destroyed any chance of the game being a good experience, everyone knows it, yet they are doubling down on itBlizzard is deeply, deeply incompetent. Private servers will live on and Forever will die in less than a year
It's fun in the sense that any new or "fresh" MMO is when everyone is going through it. Whether it remains that way or not we will see in a month or two.Probably depends entirely on Blizzard. I'd like for them to continue down the path of "reusing" unused/scrapped Vanilla content, like they've done for Hyjal. Maybe they could do Emerald Dream or the original Demon Hunters that were on the back of the original box. There's a bunch of fun stuff they could do.
>quit WoW and deleted bnet account in 2020>saw Forever hype>Forever combat so dogshit that I quit and will just play a character on retail until my sub runs outlmao, bravo Classic+ shills, you made me win the fell for it award.
>>751419420Oh no, the server are populated...The only downside is pvp server is utterly fucked with no redemption possible, but they've always been like that anyway because pvp fag-only just want to outnumber their foes anyway
>>751419183Feral has been bad for the entire lifetime of WoW it deserves to be goodYes I play Feral. >>751419420Megaservers are the best part of the game. I run into the same niggas all the time.I actually met a guy I know in real life randomly in Badlands without even having him on my friends list
I think I will restart the game and try playing a healer. I want to do dungeons, just because it seems fun, but doing it as a healer is the only realistic way to consistently queue up. I'm also starting to realize that I enjoy playing the less popular roles in online games for queue speed and just the novelty of doing the thing that no one else wants to do
>>751419578A dozen players in every single quest locations is not how the game ever was, what it was designed around ,nor how it should be. You faggots are so deeply dependent on constant social stimulation at all times no doubt bred from parasocial streamerculture that you cannot comprehend an mmo with a lively populated world that isn’t a swarm of locusts around you at all timesCLASSIC WOW IS NOT DESIGNED AROUND HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE IN EVERY ZONE AT ALL TIMES OF DAYYou fucking oversocialized NEXT BIG THING parasites are totally fucking clueless
>>751419879Don't play an MMO if you don't want to see other people
Is the Commerce stuff worth it?Stuff outside of enchants and alchemy seems like a waste since everything is bop and needs a lot of shit
>>751395124>hey claude>grab wotlk, remove flying mounts and adapt the world accordinglyenjoy your billions, blizzard
>>751419674Genuinely, literally, kill yourself>>751419963You are so deeply mindbroken by black and white thinking that you cannot comprehend seeing people in an MMO being a separate occasion from having a thousand nameless cockroaches around you at all timesYou are oversocialized and your mind is repelled by itself any moment you are left to your own thoughts. I genuinely pity you
>>751420027>Stuff outside of enchants and alchemy seems like a wasteactual produced gear is going to be in the red for a few months. You can make steady money processing raw materials like turning copper and tin ore into bronze or curing hides usually
>>751397696Are you literally too retarded to see past the most obvious ragebait? Holy fuck you must be like 13
>>751401245>It violates every principle that the original game
>>751419879That's just a problem with how layers are handled, I prefer this than a fucking barren wasteland with nobody. MMO are meant to be massively multiplayer, if I wanted instances I'd be playing guild wars
>>751395124dead in 3 months
>>751401245fuck off tourist WoW has always been full of reddit referenceslop humour
>>751420317Why can you not comprehend that there are thousands of people who preferred playing on medium pop servers and avoided full pop realms for 20+ years of this game for the very reasons we’re currently seeing with this megaserver crap? For what reason do you assume the default experience of an MMORPG is constant, neverending competition with zero moments of reprieve, outside of your semantic MUH MASSIVELY MASSIVELY MASSIVE MASSIVE MUHHHHH MASSSIIIIVEEEE bullshit?Genuinely, tie a rope around your neck and jump off a chair
>>751395124>2026>People discovered WoW was always trash.Just wait for Forever Classic, dude
>>751420223If they are nameless cockroaches, so are you, moron. Just go and play retail if you don't want to see people. You're arguing over seeing people in the version of a mmo the devs said they wanted to be people in it. If you don't like it, don't play it.
>>751420357Most online games are, especially nostalgia trips like this.
>>751420539I WANT TO FUCKING SEE PEOPLE YOU DISINGENUOUS MINDBROKEN TODDLER BRAINED TROGLODYESEEING PEOPLE DOES NOT FUCKING IMPLY BEING SURROUNDED BY PEOPLE AT ALL TIMESHOLY FUCKING SHITKILLYOURSELF
>/v/ is full of pve carebearsfucking LMAO
>>751420617i'm level 38 in forever and it wasn't that bad, if there is competition for a quest just invite some to your group most people barely talk if you're shy
>having fun in the barrens>chat is entertaining>quick rides to Thunder Bluff for training and bankShit is comfy.
GUYS LOOK AT ME, PLAYING WITH MY FAVORITE STREAMER, GUYS, THIS IS LIKE OLD DAYS, GUYS, WAIT A MINUTE...
>>751415547they put a huge majority of new quests in the 1-20 zones. there's basically nothing after that. I assume it's to trick idiots into thinking the game got a lot of new stuff, or maybe just so people don't have to do two starting zones?
>>751420617That's the thing though, you maddened dumbox, you'r eplaynig the wrong version of the game and you keep screeching about it like a nigger.Don't play the version with fucking mega-servers if you don't want a densely populated mmo.And if you can't handle playing the other, just as shitty version that are currently empty, then just go do something else like a sane human being instead of shitting all around on something not made for you specifically.
I'm gonna make a dwarf shaman because I'm retarded and hate myself
>>751420908>GAMES NOT FOR YOU>GAMES NOT FOR YOU>GAMES NOT FOR YOU>GAMES JUST NOT FOR YOUis this the new reddit cope for any criticism of a game?
THIS TIME WILL BE THE GOOD WOW!
>>751421038When your criticism is "Oh no this mmo has people in it" and you just screech around like a retard saying there's competition instead of just grouping with people, it is quite a valid answer.There's plenty of reason to critique mega-servers, specifically for example, there being 1(ONE) pvp-centric server, or 2 if we count rp-pvp rather than screeching about the pop density when it's the whole fucking point of this specific version of wow.
>>751418364I feel OP as shit after hitting 24 with rake and doing each dungeon so I could get some blues. Are you trying to level balance or something? Feral bear and cat have both felt strong to me so far
>>751420223Seethe
why are all the leather sissies winning big in forever? best dps are feral hunter enhance
>>751401245WoW never took itself seriously
>>751418364>best iteration of Bear and Cat Druid in Classic ever>cuck classYou suck dick and balls
>WoW Forever>Still with unviable builds and unbalance shit from retail and classic>Play as WE want, not as YOU want.
>>751421534A lot of it is that caster itemization sucks and the spell ratios are still bad enough that you need hundreds of spell power to just hit baseline damage from classic in the mid levels.
>>751421772GoodMages should not be gods
desu the bigger problem is that it feels like they bumped the spawn rate to compensate for having way more players so everytime you try to go into a cave or a mineshaft you can't walk 20 feet without being sandwiched by mobs
What happened to Garek's beard?Were they making a joke about wow forsaken not having facial hair options?
KEEP PAYING YOUR SUB, GOYS, WE WILL RELEASE FOREVER CLASSIC PLUS IN 3 MONTHS
>>751421707but /v/ doesnt want to play at all...
>>751420284if it goes like 2019 just copper will go up in price 20fold in a couple weeks, because everyone wanted engineering on every alt and no one wanted to look for copper veins or level mining without smelting 100 ores at the start, however in Forever I had zero issues with finding copper because it respawns like mushrooms
I'm having more fun than I did in classic. Mostly because I'm playing a class I actually want to play and not one of the few viable classes since they're actually doing balancing, unlike classic
>>751401245>every principleUn'Goro Crater. Fuck off you poser faggot.
I am having the time of my life. Its literally 2006 all over again. But now I have to go to bed
>>751422275BLASTING
>>751421910That would be fine if they and warlock and priest weren't all ass to level
BLASTING BLASTING IM HAVIJG A BLATI LOVE THE BLAST IM BLASTING BROSBLAST BLAST BLAST HAVING A BLAST!!!!!IM HAVING A BLAST IM HAVING A BLAST IM HAVING A BLAST IM HAVING A BLAST IM HAVING A BLAST IM HAVING A BLAST
>>751397609PVP is fun. PVE is just kinda meh
>TBC and/or Wrath >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ForeverSorry, you can seethe about it all you want, but this is objective fact. Wrath had some design decisions I understand people not liking, but it's the cutoff. Classic feels like shit.
>>751397609PvE, unless you want to be ganked and fucked.
>>751422423
>>751422153im having more fun than i did in vanilla because uncs are a lot less retarded and bitchy than 12 year olds
>>751397609RP-PvP is the best ruleset.
I was really expecting to be repulsed by it after taking a several years break but i genuinely enjoyed it. Fuck.Good thing i am physically unable to resub back.
>>751423276>RP PVP
>>751401249>have all the data availableand quite literally never shows itif you think forever is bigger than wotlk, you're a retard. No debate no if no buts
>2026>Shaman is a shitclassNow tell me that Blizzard knows how to make games.
What exactly is the appeal of WoW forever? I haven't kept up with it but I played hundreds of hours when I was in high school.
Took the plunge into pvp despite many streamers saying it was dead and holy fuck is it not dead. What is it about wow world pvp that just hits the fucking spot?
>>751401451I've never had a credit card in my life and it just works.
>>751397536>no human hunter>no hyjalupdate your shitpost.
>>751423586basically just an active version of WoW vanilla era classic which is by far the best version of WoW, with new content sprinkled on and nice graphics
>>751407359poor baby is scared of a little competition?
>>751423375Its the best rule set
>>7514203572 imo
>>751395423that's funny, i've been watching Xaryu in battlegrounds like two shotting people with Cone of Cold and Fingers of Frost procs
i resubbed and i'm already fucking regretting itnow that i'm locked in for the month my "friends" don't feel obligated to do anything with me anymore. it's like it was all an act to get me to come back
>>751423456>Shaman is a shitclassresto is the best healer right now :^)
>>751423456shitman has always been blizzard's abuse goblint. shaman main for most of retail's lifespan
what are some good addons for someone thats absolutely new to WoW? playing afflock if that matters. i already got Questie
>>751425240maybe onebag or something like that and bartender but you don't really need any addons
>>751400808Yeah, only Reddit can actually make an impact these days which is hilarious
>>751425240Better Bags, it's the best bag addon by far it separates all your items into separate sections
>>751401451>>751408846>lying onlineI've used my debit card and exclusively my debit card with blizzard for like 15+ years
>>751425240>what are some good addons for someone thats absolutely new to WoW?oneforall covers a ton of stuff that people might just assume you know like where things are, what drops where etc
>>751405269Go along the back wall there along the mountains, I just farmed that little strip
>>751424326Xaryu is such a faggot its unreal. Literally never listion to a word he says ever about Mage. Whatever he's says. It's the opposite.
>>751425657It's ironic you say that because what he was SAYING was he was whining about how Mage is nerfed and how it sucksand then he was running around the BG literally blowing people up in like 2 attacks, kek
>>751425425>it separates all your items into separate sectionsi needed this thank you
Will there be a patch tomorrow?
>>751425848We literally just had a patch yesterday
>>751424971And by resto I mean druid
>>751426006It was a hotfix.
>>751424326You can't compare streamers who get feed gear by 10k viewers to average player.
>>751425730That's exactly my point. Any other class it's probably fine but everything he says about Mage is wrong. Because it's the only class he ever plays.
>>751426179Spellcasters in general suck. Nothing feels like it's worth the mana anymore
>>751395423I'm not having issues as a priest. Get spellpower
>>751426152was a level 40 bg against other level 40s where basically everyone had the same SM gear but sure thing pal
>>751396787insecure
>>751423456Enhance one shots literally everything
>>751423456Every enhance sham I've seen has been a powerhouse
Maybe it's just nostalgia but it's sickening how much better the human starting zones are than any of the others.
The monster respawn rate is a little troll. I understand they buffed it so people don't have to wait so long to kill quest related NPCs, but I'm deep in a cave after killing it and another one respawns before I had the chance to finish looting
So, uh... when is the code expiring?
>>751427068sometime today. maybe midnight ig
>>751405787It's WowIt's the gayest game in the world
>>751427243Wait...that's not Assumi
>>751425219based tseric
>take 2004 WoW and literally do not change anything, no tweaking numbers or talents or sharding>add some new zones and quests and classic warcraft races like goblins or dryads or ogreswhy is that so hard?
>>751427712Because 2004 wow was a fucking mess that is only fondly remembered because no one had any idea what they were doing.wh6 would you want to play an unbalanced game where most of the talent trees or play styles were objectively shit or mediocre?
>WoW Forever>Disney World of Warcraft lore
>>751395423t. Never did a dungeon for a new weapon because asmongold told him the xp was bad
Trump lost because Asmongold, prepare to Forever fail, fuckers.
>>751428101Trump lost because he's a corrupt pedophile rapist war criminal
>>751428101>>751428217What did Trump lose? He's your president, sounds like winning to me.
>>751397536>censored breast physicsWrong, they fixed it from the beta, they're fine now
>>751428048>Finally get a huge new weapon upgrade>Been using the same weapon for 20 levels now>Over twice as much SP, this is it!Frostbolt now deals 174 damage instead of 170.
>>751428454>Frostbolt now deals 174 damage instead of 170.Blast status?
So now that the free trial dust has settled, are we falling for it again?
>>751395124I think they fundamentally needed to redesign how WoW works in Forever, which they didnt do. Theres a reason games like EVE and OSRS can do nothing and still stay relevant. The WoW model, as it is, can not do this and it'll lead to vertical progression raid logging like always.
>90% of the questing content is identical>dungeons feel punishing if you have to do them more than once>dalaran pre-quests require you to kill normal mobs 5-6 levels above youHow much efficiency are you willing to sacrifice for fun? I don't need to level at 100% speed, but once i dip below 80% in order to have fun I begin to question why the fuck i'm even playing a game punishes me for playing the way I want to play.
>>751427712because vanilla was actually dogshit, retard
>>751428592No. I had fun, I liked (or didn't mind) the new content that I saw, but I cannot afford to let this game consume my life again.
This is my first time really sitting down and playing WoW in the 20+ years its been out and man, I fuckin' get it.Not the addictive "number go up" part, that's standard with all MMOs, I mean the wonder and whimsy.The world is so goddamn big, like "holy shit" big, and not in a bullshit fake feeling way, in a genuine way. I don't care if its a walking simulator I love the feeling of the journey. I love the big ass trees, I love the sprawling landscapes, I love the bustling towns, I love seeing the players along the road on lengthy hikes.I'm out of the loop on WoW's current reputation I'm just here enjoying this as a completely new thing for me.
>>751402915>at what point does forever not become retailnever, because it's specifically being designed to be similar to vanilla and specifically NOT retail
>>751429074Based as fuck fun haver.
>>751428278THE COPE MACHINE
>>751428592Nah. Game is legit unplayable right now due to player density and Blizz has no interest in fixing it. I'll wait a few weeks until the initial rush dies down and maybe I'll throw the a month's sub to check out the new content and then ditch.
>>751395124No.>b-butNo. 99% of the current population will quit before hitting level cap, the rest will raidlog 1 hour a week because if they dare try to introduce any kind of repeatable content the retards this game is pandering to will call it retoilet and throw a shitfit.
>>751429428>he can't handle making groups with people doing the same quest>in a mmo meant to have a high densityGo play solo wow with ai bot, it seems mor eyour style
>>751429074Now you know why it hit millennials like crack when it came out. You were a kid, you had no responsibilities, not to mention wikis were sparse and many people didn't know to look them up anyway.
>>751429729Do you even play the game? Nobody wants to group when the quest items are round robin. Nu-WoW is full of narcissists who think they'll get it done faster solo.
>>751429729>>751429818As a druid with an instant tag, no projectile spell, I will absolutely decline invites from meleecucks looking to get boosted.
>>751429818I do, I've done pretty much every location in group the only time I was solo was day 1 when I was way ahead of normalfags and there was no one arround me.
>>751429074blizzard has been shit for longer than they were good and for longer than many people have even been on this board but vanilla wow truly was a game made by one of the greatest developers at their peak.
>>751428919>dalaran pre-quests require you to kill normal mobs 5-6 levels above youhuh which one?
>>751429074Now imagine you got to experience that in 2004. WoWfags are still chasing that same rush.
>>751428958>the greatest and most successful game of all time is shit actually
>>751408389>PvP servers were a mistake.pvp and the rival faction system is the quintessential basis of the game
>>751430213nobody knew what they were doing either so everyone was figuring out and exploring things together.
>>751429794forgot to mention, wow came out 1 year after wc3's expansion too. Wc3, dota, and the warcraft ip in general were huge at the time, so getting to see all those locales and characters in 3d was really big for a lot of people.
if you hate pvp then just play xiv desu
>thread full of casuals who didn't get ahead of the curve on launch You made your own bed. MMO launches are always like this. You need to get ahead of the pack or you'll get AIDS.
>>751430939Also forgot to mention if you complain about muh PvP just fucking play on PvE like a pussy. Don't let me catch you Horde scum in Feralas or I'm sliming you out.
>>751428592Only if someone else were to pay for my sub. Otherwise the sunken cost effect would activate once again and who knows when I'd be able to quit.
>>751430939freshtrannies are mentally ill
