Boom!
>Make them cry like a marketer on launch day!What the fuck did they mean by this?
>>751453783anime fans never recovered from this
>>751453783When was the exact moment in the MN9 campaign where the hype bubble popped and the problems started, /v/?
>>751454150And neither did Comcept. Or Inafune's career.
>>751454198Making whatshername the community relations head.
>>751454198Gameplay
>>751453783>/v/ still assmad about Keiji Inafune day 3652
but why did they make it look like cropped pizza?
>>751455108what the fuck is minnapad
mm pizza
>>751454198Literally everything after the campaign was finished was just one PR disaster after the other>week 1 alpha opening everyone’s eyes to the fact that they didn’t back a sprite based platformer>Dinagate as a whole>Call vote was a trainwreck (Inafune still got his design in the game anyways lmao)>later alphas looking not much better than the original>the fucking 2 RED ASH KICKSTARTERS >the iconic launch trailer
>>751455942oh and>the teaser trailer for the animated series that didn’t happen
>>751454198It was Dina.The problems were happening way before but Dina was the first crack in the facade that the company and the game wasn't being ran on the level behind the scenes. She shows up, makes the ugliest fanart imaginable, gets announced as a big-time moderator of the project, and then it comes out her boyfriend is working on the game.When backers started getting banned, including Heavy who was one of the primordial first backers who did free advertisement for the kickstarter, that's when everyone gave up. The game's legacy will be pizza explosions everyone told them looked like shit before launched (and were banned). Gameplay that feels like a worse version of mega man porn parody games. Every single promise of a community-designed game being flushed down the toilet. And Inafune's reputation being ruined forever. All because of one woman who wasn't told 'no'.
>>751455942>>751456006>>751454198Don't forget about trying to copy western slop, thinking the big sales numbers came from quality and not marketing and tried to turn every franchise into CoD or whatever.He might look japanese, but he is (and may allah forgive me for uttering this word) californian at heart
>>751455942>>week 1 alpha opening everyone’s eyes to the fact that they didn’t back a sprite based platformerI think the fact they put a sprite based platformer as the concept art of the game is the scummiest part of this.
>>751454198yeah it was Dina like the other guy saidnot to say that she was the actual thing that killed the quality of the game, but that was the moment when the hype completely died. it was also the first shot fired for all the woke/DEI shit that defined the mid to late 2010s.
https://youtu.be/YngbHOz--oc?si=V0JTmeAjJsUrFi3aI still can’t believe how bad that trailer is
>>751453783did you rike it?
>>751455179
>>751456703>>751456176>>751455942Dina was the first sign, and she had very little actual impact on the actual game, but it showed how people were being hired. Friends of friends were being hired, and it was a lot of clueless idiots. They didn't seem to have competent programmers on the team. Inafune was lost in the clouds trying to make live action Hollywood films getting made and seems like he's a clueless and terrible manager.
> Two people who didn't do well after leaving Capcom talk about the difficulties of running a game ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZWdJ61tc0U&t=11sInafune interviewed by another former Capcom dev on how hard it is to make games without capcom. I mean, who knew?
I'm still relieved that Bloodstained didn't founder like MN9 did. After MN9 I had a terrible feeling about having backed Bloodstained.
>>751458361
>>751453783I'M GOING TO HAVE A CARTOON, A MOVIE! A SEQUEL!
>>751458216>>751458498That's cheetaman mentality
>>751454198When Inafune tried making his own Megaman.
>>751458449Igarashi is a better manager, and Ben Judd saddled Igarashi with the same inept team and plan as MN9. So Igarashi literally fired Inti-Creates form the main game. THe end-product is salvaged as much as possible, despite looking pretty bad at times.
>>751454198I don't think it ever popped with one single thing, it was just a downward spiral of bad updates and horrible communication. For me, the most significant one was when they showed off the 2.5D art style for the first time, looking nothing like the concept art. The gameplay reveal, badly timed dev updates about cutting concepts, the bizarre MN9 animated pilot, the months of radio silence, and the Red Ash KS trainwreck deflated the bubble until it popped with a wet fart with the disastrous trailer.
>>751459206Shantae and Seven Sirens, and Wonder Boy Dragon's Trap look closer to that art. I think Inti-creates was the worst possible choice for a dev. They should have used 2D sprites, and 3D backgrounds, and call it a day. Wayforward could have delivered. Those pylon enemies have charm, and clearly inspired by the Mega Man construction hat enemies, so of course they don't make the final game.
>>751459498Wonder boy.
>>751454198
>>751458449>>751458752>let's hire those guys mostly known for 2D handheld titles to make this multiplatform 3D game, that'll go well
>>751458216Fun fact: Ben Judd, the one who famously coined the phrase "it's better than nothing", stepped down as CEO of Dangen Entertainment back in 2019 after being accused of inappropriate behavior, harassment, and bad business practices.One of the people who made such accusations against him was a person named Alex, who apparently was in a relationship with Ben and was how she managed to get a position within the Mighty No. 9 project. Also that person Alex, her name used to be Dina.https://x.com/OnTakahashi/status/1204431154717188096https://www.gamesindustry.biz/ben-judd-departs-dangen-ddm-amid-accusations-of-sexual-harassment-bad-business-practices
>>751458216>he's a clueless and terrible manager.The more I learn about Inafune, the more it seems like he just sets things in motion, and distracts himself with trying to get another ball rolling. So he was basically good at getting people to work, but barely if ever oversaw the results.
>>751462427>One of the people who made such accusations against him was a person named Alex, who apparently was in a relationship with Ben and was how she managed to get a position within the Mighty No. 9 project. Also that person Alex, her name used to be Dina.For Dina, it's very obvious she has Borderline Personality Disorder, which she appears to have not been diagnosed and has never sought treatment. Narcissism and huge persecution but also manipulative personalities, are all traits of BPD. They tend to be pretty slutty, and also turn on a dime on people. And did you know there's a huge overlap of BPD girls who go trans? It all fits. Also: Judd got sued in 2024:https://www.siliconera.com/penny-blood-director-files-lawsuit-over-unpaid-kickstarter-funds/Dangen entertainment seems shady as FUCK and it looks like once things turned south for Ben Judd, he just started ripping off indies and thinking "the fuck thye gonna do about it?"
>>751462651Which is baffling how after 30 years of working at capcom, going from a hands on dev working day to day in the office, to a producer, then to a general manager, and then head of Research and Development, that Inafune never once actually learned how to manage a project. Projects seemed to do well at Capcom since the staff was so talented and well trained. So once Inafune said "make a samurai game", they came back with something very solid. He then goes independent, and tells these cheaper less talented studios to shit out a game, and it's a mediocre mess at best. In short he seems VERY stupid. Like total moron tier stupid.
Funnily, orders for the vaporware 3DS version weren't officially cancelled until last year also does anyone have that drawing of a disappointed Mega Man snatching a torch back out of Beck's hand
>>751462952>Funnily, orders for the vaporware 3DS version weren't officially cancelled until last yearThe thinking is that Amazon likely just put a date a decade in the future as a placeholder, and then never changed it since it never got made.
>>751454198When the guy posting Aile kept BTFOing the community director of the game.
>>751459571Kind of crazy how the final product looked better than the promotion image.
>>751463058That's almost certainly the case, but it was a funny way to remind people about MN9 and to tie up a minor loose thread.
>>751456176>All because of one woman who wasn't told 'no'.It's amazing how many problems come down to this.
>>751463581I wish someone would've told Inafune no a long time ago.
>>751462781As someone who was in the MN9 forums pointing how terrible their moderating and rules were, I can totally believe Dina having actual issues. The infraction that finally got me banned from their forums was making an off-topic post, in response to an off-topic post from one of the moderators in the "Off-Topic" section of the forums. They were clearly moderating based on their own feelings and morals, and the whole forum and community was a mess as a result. They deserved the game that they got.Also, I believe "Heat Man" (who was a moderator in the forums) he came out as trans after MN9 came out.
>>751462427And then that SAME MOTHERFUCKER went on to work with the Armed Fantasia/Penny Blood double kickstarter, which has gone to shit thanks to him.God fucking damn it. At least I didn't back them...
>>751462921To be fair, a lot of Inafune's rise can be attributed to typical Japanese office politics and seniority. He basically rose up through the ranks, even if in retrospect that might have been undeserved. It was only when he started to swing his weight around and try to westernize Capcom that the other higher ups got cold feet, and Inafune basically quit because he couldn't force their hand any longer.Although, it was a pretty masterclass move to leave Capcom holding the bag on Legends 3, a project they hadn't even internally greenlit, and deal with the fallout. Capcom wasn't exactly in the best place around when Legends 3 was happening, due to the failure of Street Fighter X Tekken, which was just Capcom trying to shoot for the moon and failing spectacularly.
>>751465287I do note that Legends 3 was cancelled before SFxT to my recollection, but SFxT was basically the capstone to other blunders Capcom was having.
>>751454198When Dina was revealed as the community manager.
>>751464574>As someone who was in the MN9 forums pointing how terrible their moderating and rules were, I can totally believe Dina having actual issues.Her presentations afterwards were about how big of a victim she is because video games have Arabs as enemies in military shooters. Classic persecution complex. All of her behavior points to BPD, including unstable image, and going troon is the capstone to that. Their unstable image is often misdiagnosed as "gender dyphoria" now. So it's a bunch of BPD girls and autismo guys getting diagnosed as troons.
>>751464574LOL Who write an email like this? They seem to think the world revolves around them.
>>751466179I totally believe it. There's definitely many cases where there's a clear connection between mental health and wanting/choosing to transition, but far too many people are too concerned or scared that they would offend people for even considering such a thing.>>751466219Also keep in mind that he was just a normal backer who was volunteering (as far as I'm aware). I'm happy I've kept this email for all these years, otherwise people wouldn't believe how poorly managed the community was.
>>751453783Why do we hate this game? Clout and board culture?
>>751454198Dyna.
>>751457507what a narcissist
Um, where is my Vita version?
>>751462952Mega Man 11 ate Mighty No. 9's breakfast, lunch, and dinner.
>>751454198The Dina Disaster.
WHAT'S THIS? A FUCKING ICE LEVEL?
>>751470757Dr. Anon, it's also a water level.
>>751470929NOOOOOOOOOOO!!
>>751464574>YOU'RREEEE HRRAAASSSNNN' MEEEEEEjfc
>>751467909you VILL not speak of the Vita version
>>751469938>Mega Man 11 ate Mighty No. 9's breakfast, lunch, and dinner.and it still wasn't that interesting or good! They should have made it a rachet and clank style game.
>>751472463Like the Legends games?
For me, it was all the "take that capcom!" cringe web comics and fanart.
>>751472770>Like the Legends games?Legends were NOT like that. They seemed inspired by 70s wholesome anime they grew up on, and is a very laid back game, with very little action and monotonous dungeons and simplistic combat. They were sales disasters for a god damn reason and they didn't connect at all. They are not the fast intense action that we expect from MM games. The Ratchet and Clank games were attempts to make an off brand mega Man in 3D, and it worked. You jump, you shoot, you move through full 3D levels that are giant path ways. Sony stole Capcom's thunder for like 20 years, and as the Ratchet series died down, Capcom should have used it as a template for a proper 3D mega man in third person.
>>751465287>it was a pretty masterclass move to leave Capcom holding the bag on Legends 3, a project they hadn't even internally greenlit, and deal with the fallout>such a masterclass that his own MM fucked up, his own Legends ended up only getting a one episode OVA and got bought by a chinese company, multiple game projects were cancelled, loses his company to a buyout from a different company only for it to get dissolved not too long ago>all the meanwhile Capcom doesn't even deal with Legends
>>751473930I mean in terms of the bad PR Capcom had to endure because of Inafune. Inafune absolutely fumbled with his ventures after his departure, but part reason why MN9's kickstarter was as successful as it was because people were pissed at Capcom for Legends 3, Universe and Online (though Online was not cancelled by Capcom, rather it was handled by a different company, and said company restructured and canned Online in the process).So it was basically a one-two punch by Inafune, led to a successful kickstarter. He was basically handed an easy win, but he dropped the ball.
>>751456176You then realize the notion of community management is retarded because they are not on payroll. Let them say what they want.
>>751474538She was filtering out player concerns and criticism to the devs because of butthurt.
>>751474538But in Dina's case, as far as we're aware she was actually working in the Comcept office.>>751474661Not defend Dina, but communication with Comcept in general wasn't great during the project. Even if there was someone else as the community manager, there was no guarantee that feedback would actually reach or be read by them.With that said though, Dina was terrible at her job. The community called it soon after she was assigned as CM, and time and time again she proved them right.
>>751456176I want to know what goes through the minds of artists who make art like this. It doesn't look appealing at all.
>>751454198The game looking nothing like its concept was the first major red flag. There are countless others, but to avoid spending an hour on a post that'll be skimmed by, I'll cap it to 10.>cronyism out the ass>Dina and Ben Judd>Con Man going full retard the entire time>unrealistic Kikestarter stretch goals>the impossibly retarded idea to try to port it to 8 different platforms>expecting a budget 2D sprite-based company to make a 3D asset game>the Master Class on how not to advertise your game>whoring out the IP before the fucking game was even released>literally zero oversight on both sides due to language barriers>the incredibly retarded decision to make it score-based and requiring you to run into your enemies to defeat them
>>751475307She was a narcissist. It looked good to her because she made it.
I was a backer and active on the forums and constantly sparred with the mods. The most worthless people were the simp backers who refused to acknowledge any of the issues much like how every subreddit for games is blind praise. Arguing with them was the worst
>>751477130What was the one guy who the community rallied under because he always managed to be respectful but constantly had the mods threatening to ban him for made up reasons? Heavy08? That guy was great but he was way too patient with the obvious shitheads.I think it turned out that a bunch of the accounts who were just praising them were sockpuppets too
>>751476331>>expecting a budget 2D sprite-based company to make a 3D asset gameThey had done that before on the PSP and 3DS and even NDS. It's just that they likely had access to a proprietary 3D engine that worked for those systems, and most likely had more money and support. Note that all their decent 3D games were made with Bandai-Namco. 3D games they made around that time:>Doraemon Nobita to Midori no Kyojinden (NDS)>Power Rangers Samurai (Wii)>Naruto: Powerful Shippuden 3DS>Great Battle Fullblast (PSP)In principle: this could work. But they had no idea how Unreal engien worked, didn't have the money for it, and didn't hire programmers. The original sin of the project was using Unreal Engine.
>>751476331>requiring you to run into your enemies to defeat themTo be fair, on paper the idea of absorbing your enemies sounded good. But my goodness the execution was terrible. Enemies took forever to kill if you didn't want to absorb them, and having to use the absorbing mechanic to deal damage to bosses was such a pain.
>>751454198>"Cry like an anime fan on prom night">Is a Japanese game based on a Japanese franchise famous for its anime designsWhy did they did think that was a good idea?
>>751469938Oh my god THANK YOU
>>751477397That's more that they're tard wrangled than anything.
>>751477314I have no idea. I remember there was one guy who pretended to be a middle guy between the supporters and haters and he was coming up with some document to present to mods about our complaints and he lied about it and we all got banned with a banned wave a week later when they had a meeting and reviewed all out posts
I could go for a fat margherita right about now.
>>751473262At least there's merit in hating 2010s+ Capcom. The really cringy shit to me was the "hugs and unity" faggot artwork of indie characters all patting Beck's ass (and art of Mega Man gleefully indicating Beck as his successor).
>>751462952The ironic part is, the 3DS and Vita versions should've been the "core" versions of the game, they should've known its easier to port up less powerful versions of the game than it is to port down.
>>751477468I'm convinced Inafune and Comcept never spoke to the English marketing or community teams. Not even once. He likely outsourced them thinking that they would be just like any other localization team.
The funniest thing was them wanting to make a cartoon, a SPINOFF, and a CARTOON for that spinoff before the game was even finished.
Remember when the Sonic twitter account was run by some /v/irgin
>>751477924The saddest thing about it all is that MN9 is trash, but the Mighty Gunvolt games were actually great. MGB is one of the best Mega Man clones ever made, and I never knew how much I needed customization in muh Mega Man games.
Honestly Red Ash might've been more insulting as a conceptWanting to do your own not!Classic Mega Man? Sure. Not!X? WhateverBut going straight to not!Legends is utterly tone deaf. Legends fans don't want a fake version of Legends, they want fucking Legends. And having the nerve to show it off not only after Legends 3 got cancelled, but when you haven't propely released your not!Classic yet, is something else
>>751478160Gunvolt is the alternate universe MN9, being not only the successor to X/Zero, but stands on its own as a franchise in its own right
>>751453783Remember how much Wollie and Pat defended it? "Its OK that its 3D, it still looks like Megaman!"
>>751453783This is better than the lava in sóyverine.
751478575>remember when my ecelebsNo, fuck off.
ITT: Anime fans on prom night
>>751478674I hate eceleb posting but chibi is based. We need more people calling out censorship.
>>751478550>being not only the successor to X/ZeroBut it fucking isn't. It's more like the successor of MN9.>stands on its own as a franchise in its own rightIt's been crashing lately.
>>751478809He's a faggot and so are you.
>>751477978Aaron Webber was based and a huge positive for the Sonic franchise. The seethe over him "not taking Sonic seriously" is fucking delusional pathetic autism.
>>751478878>if you dont worship censorship youre a faggotCensorship is evil anon. Why do you support evil?
>>751478826>But it fucking isn't. It's more like the successor of MN9.It didn't flop. So by nature that's not true>It's been crashing latelyIt's currently the best peforming original franchise Inti has right now. Which granted isn't saying much but still.
>>751478575>Remember how much Wollie and Pat defended it? "Its OK that its 3D, it still looks like Megaman!"There was some stream of some guy I watched, I dont' think he's a big e-celeb or anything, so I forget his name. Fat guy. Anyways, he sat in silence as he played and only periodically said "but he made mega man" as if to remind himself that it HAS to be good. After like an hour of playing he shook his head, and said it wasn't very good.
>>751478809>>751478949Fuck off e-celeb fag
>>751479040>It didn't flop. So by nature that's not trueIt'd be funny if the second time around Inti still fucked up but it's not changing that GV is just the successor of MN9>It's currently the best peforming original franchise Inti has right now. Which granted isn't saying much but still.You're right that it isn't saying much since all they've done lately is release GV3 dlc game modes for years now.
The best fuck you was the final fuck you to backers when the game code came out like 3 days after retail release so my cousin who didn't back bought it on release day, beat it and said it was shit all before I could play
>>751478949>if you dont worship censorshipMaking a whole lot of assumptions faggot.
>>751479350They've done their Gal Gun spin-off metroidvania too, and a few one of new IPs here and there That said Gunvolt is their bread and butter at the moment.
Lotta censorship worshippers in this thread. Very sad.
>>751479608More like Gunvolt's the buoy that's trying to hold up a sinking boat.
>>751479783Inti isn't doing that bad. At least as far as I can see It wouldn't surprise me if they're helping with Dual Overdrive at the moment.
>>751479885>It wouldn't surprise me if they're helping with Dual Overdrive at the moment.>Inti being anywhere near a capcom IP ever againCapcom literally tried scrubbing them off of the MMZ/ZX collection as much as they could.
>>751477735That trailer was on Deep Silver. Inti Creates' CEO made a tweet the day it released calling it garbage.
>>751479885inti's been releasing stinkers for a while now
>>751480215Why are people on twitter so weird? you don't have to censor "dick fillet".
>>751478674I remember when they tried to bring in Andrew Dickman to the forums, in the hopes that he could suppress the negativity that Dina was getting after being assigned as Community Manager. As you can imagine, it didn't go well. Unfortunately it's probably long gone now, but Andrew soon after tweeted how much he hated the community for not liking his forum post.
>>751454347>And neither did Comcept. Or Inafune's career
>>751478674i don't really care about ecelebs but mods making a good decision once in a blue moon doesn't change how faggy they are 99% of the time
>>751478282Inafune & friends hates X, even his nft scam skipped him in favor of deviantart like Protaman/Zero and Vile.
>>751481202>Inafune & friends hates X>rips off Hyenard and Hippo boss with rockets on back from CM
>>751480405In Japan they have to put a little stripe over the dick.
>>751481378Yes, like I said, They hate X (the character).
>>751457507>the man the myth the legendOf what? There's the put-down "They're not an artist. They're a business man". But he's clearly not that either.
>>751482534Kamya even called in just a producer
>>751477735Maybe, maybe not.
>>751458123>legal and ethical IP creationWhat exactly would illegal and unethical IP creation look like?
>>751464574>They were clearly moderating based on their own feelings and morals, and the whole forum and community was a mess as a result.Hmm.......... sounds like a certain imageboard I know...
>>751453783kek
>>751462324Making sprites is literary more difficult and menial task than regular 3D models, even more so when your game is played on a single Z-plane.And since they used UE4, all they had to do is click a different button to build a different target platform (hence why other versions like 3DS and Vita were canceled because it had no magic build button for those platforms).
>>751453783This happened 13 years ago, bury the horse already.
>>751483131Piracy
>>751457507Never told this story because it was so pathetic. I was in the process of selling my car to be able to afford the Japan trip and the dinner. That tier sold out the day before I lined up a buyer. Told the guy sorry something came up I can't sell it Good God I dodged a bullet. I consider it divine intervention
>>751478550Gunvolt is more of a bullet hell shoot'em up than a mega man successor.
>>751485613I was the guy who wanted to buy the car you piece of shit now I know why you cancelled
>>751485613Though it's probably impossible to verify at this point, I did read at one point that those dinners never happened (at least with some of those who backed it), with obviously no refunds involved either.
>>751486068They probably didn't. Kinda nuts in hindsight imagine your name being in the credits for this shitshow as a 10k tier and being able to tell people you never got your dinner
>>751454347>>751483131>>751481202ZXC died for this...
>>751485613>I was in the process of selling my car to be able to afford the Japan trip and the dinner.Sorry anon but that is indeed really pathetic and you deserved to get scammed. Imagine selling your car for the privilege of buying your own dinner on a date with Keiji Inafune who probably wasn't even going to look once in your direction. Jesus christ.
>>751487849I personally gave Inafune 2000 dollars for a PSP Vita version of the game.
>>751458123He really loves his neko beastroid
Reminder: Level 5 bought Comcept and brought Inafune on to their projects for some fucking reason, and it nearly killed them
>>751477468It is quite odd the man who fought for Roll's panty shots in MvC did not once speak with the marketing team
>>751458123>>751457507The fan-made version of the Mega Man game surpasses the developer's original iteration.
>>751480348Fuck you, I liked Majogami
>>751456176Yeah, when Heavy01 dipped the fuck out, that's when you knew the entire thing was not just fucked, but a total disaster.
The instant you saw the character design you should have known that it would be worthless and have no quality control.
>>751487678 It died for mega man 9
>>751477468Game based on game from the 90s with its Dudebro culture, marketed to westerners who used to be icky about anime designs. It's just a boomer marketer being disconnected with the times pretending the audience was american boomer nostalgiafags.
>>751492606Nah, it was just an insane feminist going after animefans.
Why did I get modded for making a thread about this? This is something that legitimately just arrived this week. I've wanted one of these for years, why can't the /v/ mods let me proudly show it off to the community that first made me aware of this figure?
Are all these threads AI? No way anyone cares enough about this trash to make a thread about it.
>>751493685because you deserve it
>>751494083maybe you are AIotherwise I'll have to call you a retard
>>751454198I was apparently the only person who remembered and was put off by Inafune's cancelled projects like Mega Man Universe, Maverick Hunter and Kaio: King of the Pirates. All looked like shit by the way.Guy was a fucking hack.
>>751493685Mine has shipped but still hasn't arrived yet.Is it delivered up in a box showing the contents like that lol
>>751493685>>751494868This is Call thread.
>>751458594
>>751493685Cause you & mods are faggots.
>>751479350Gunvolt came out before Mighty Number 9. Inti has also been steadily releasing games every year. You're not only retarded but also a faggot.
>>751483069I love the fact he put his signature on every single one of those basic-bitch doodlesdude couldn't be more full of himself if he tried
>>751495826>Gunvolt came out before Mighty Number 9>inti literally already had the plan and they still fucked up>Inti has also been steadily releasing games every year.>games are so ass people forget they exist
>>751490234Mental illness.
>>751458123>Snake Man but amphibious >Tango but sexy girl
>>751497071It gets funnier with donut steel protoman/Zero and Vile with a Z
>>751453783MN9 won in the end
>>751497776Mega Man had scores long before MN9 was a thing
>>751463062>>751469938>>751476331MN9 could be a great game if it developed original gameplay mechanics like other Mega Man sub-series.
>>751490234I've barely followed Inti since the Curse of the Moon games, but it seems like all they make now are waifu clusterfucks
>>751499202>MN9 could be a great game if it developed original gameplay mechanicsBut it did?
>>751495517A who thread?
>>751476562But enough other fans in the community liked it enough and shared it enough, that we are talking about it 13 years later. Why wasn't it just immediately forgotten on sight?
>>751499431The cute one
>>751499215>it seems like all they make now are waifu clusterfucks>now.Always were, really, see gal gun or the Zero/Zx series.It turned over its head with the gunvolt series, where you have to unceremoniously kill a 10 years old loli.
