>combat sucks>quest design consists of "talk to NPC, walk across town, talk to another NPC, quest over">gameplay consists of walking for five hours straight across an empty desert while the same three doo-wop songs play on the radio >story doesn't even get started until you reach the StripWhy is this the greatest game of all time again?
But enough about OOT
>>751457115k i'm canceling your oxygen subscription now
>>751457115It was before your time.
>>751457115Don't forget>brainlessly pump speech to 100, linear increases, no prerequisites, charisma doesn't matter>get instawin cheat code for every quest
>>751457115people like the writing, and basic c&c and agency impressed 360 kids who never played actual RPGs before
Veronica is a psychopath who only gets up in the morning to spend the day being showered in the blood of her fallen enemies.
>>751457452>brainlessly pump speech to 100>get instawin cheat code for every questhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaJ9RI1xDDUto be fair, that's basically every Fallout game minus 2.
>west no east [speech 100] >ok bye a masterpiece of RPG design
>>751457115>video game>Your characters moves to another character and talksDamn you got em OP. You're such a fucking retard aren't ya?
>>751457528Veronica is cool when youre 15 and dont know, when you get older this proto wholesome chungus personality gets boring.
>>751457540did you watch your own video or even know how the game works? you need to actually click the correct options and not the one labeled [speech]. you also need like 8 int for the options to appear. and then you need speech of like 120% to have a decent chance (chance because it's a roll and not a guaranteed success) but I agree that the games after 2 are brainless
>>751457540And then Obsidian cucks you from one of the good ending if you pick the speech option.That specific option still upsets both Reddit and /v/ to this day.
>>751457746>you need to actually click the correct options and not the one labeled [speech]. you also need like 8 int for the options to appear. and then you need speech of like 120% to have a decent chanceYes, but my point is that you can still beat the Master without even having to fight him if you have the relevant stats. I've beaten Fallout 1 probably three or so times and I don't think I've ever actually fought the Master since it's so easy to just convince him to kill himself.
>>751457980You just need future knowledge and the correct stats to talk The Master to death, this is a retarded arguement.
>>751457980It's easy if you munchkin the same int/speech stats every playthrough instead of playing the game like a normal person, sure
>>751457980It doesn't matter all that much. You can trigger the nuke yourself by using the key from the other base.
>>751457645Most video games don't have quest markers to hold your hand the entire time
>>751458113>>751458180you just need>the autopsy report from Vree which is easy to get>an INT stat of 6 or above>maxed out speechFallout 1 is a pretty easy game. I'm usually at such a high level by the end game that I just dump points into random skills I don't need.
>>751458916Again, thats future knowledge and the correct stats. You cannot do that if youre doing a low int run.
>>751457115>>combat sucksFiltered.>>quest design consists of "talk to NPC, walk across town, talk to another NPC, quest over"Filtered.>>gameplay consists of walking for five hours straight across an empty desert while the same three doo-wop songs play on the radio Filtered + if you use the pipboy radio you're an NPC and probably listen to music constantly irl because you're an NPC.>>story doesn't even get started until you reach the StripFiltered.
>>751459041why do you have a killfeed in a single player game?
>>751459041Your mod list is horrible and purple is the ugliest hud color you could have picked.
>>751459095So he can tell when Boon 360 no scopes a fucking molerate from half the map away
>>751459095So it tells me when I get a critical hit.>>751459096Filtered.
>>751457115obsidian fanboys (oopsies I mean tranny girls with male cocks) just worship anything Shitsidian slop outNV isn't actually a bad game - it's just standard obsidian slop, aka written by a 10 year old
>>751458916you just >a guide ftfy
>>751457452Speech needs a revamp in the next Fallout game. It was already pointless in Fallout 4 since it's almost impossible to fail quests. It shouldn't be obvious what the right choices are but give you more options or prerequisites to convince Npcs. Having no Charisma shouldn't work either too or require more skill points.
>>751459370Speech isnt in Fallout 4, they already perfected the use of it in that game.
>>751459276>using a guide for a eighty year old game is bad for some reasonAny game released before seventh gen is literally unplayable without a guide, anon
>>751459248Retard kun, the game already in vanilla tells you if you land a critical hit. Filtered by your own low INT score.
>>751459515>>751459276The point of a game is to explore, if you wanted someone else playthru just watch a lets play.
>>751459041that looks fucking terrible you dumb tranny
>>751457282OOT is made for literal children though. The main issue with that game is that you have mentally ill adults playing it.
>>751457115>Why is this the greatest game of all time again?because one of the NPCs is voiced by felicia day whos tits you can see in a movieand a hooker is voiced by a 15 year old or somethingand the antagonist is chandelier bing
>>751459370It's a pretty easy fix imo. Just have Charisma act as a multiplier from 0.10-1.00 and reduce speech requirements, with some items providing a boost. The big sin of New Vegas is just telling the player the skill requirement for dialogues. Better than 3's percentage success system, but I'd rather have it just say [Speech] <Some dumb shit> with no #/100.It's a product of the whole game being not even half baked.
>>751459501>perfectedWeird way to say butcheterd the ever living shit of the entire dialogue section of the game.
>>751459734It's a product of casualization actually. they don't want the players to fail something and feel bad, so they made it literally impossible to fail
>>751459629The point of a game is to have fun. If I wanted to go exploring I'd go outside or explore your mom's pussy with my tongue
>>751459938I didnt say dialouge i said speech, as in the skill.
>>751459583Yeah, but those popups are really big, my popups are small.>>751459632Filtered.
>>751459987Bros idea of fun is reading a guide then doing what the guide says. Pathetic.
>>751460076Nigger just go play Borderlands if you want this gameplay.
>>751460076>File: Fallout - New Vegas 2026.(...).webm (3.91 MB, 1460x1228)i would honestly prefer baked in shadows or shadows that just dont move than some leaping every minute shadows
>>751460037And I said they 'perfected' it by butchering the entire dialogue system. That being said I only played FO4 until I got the the power armor section and then uninstalled and deleted the game.
>>751459041Now show the vanilla game instead of a overly modded shitshow made by mentally i'll trannies.Oh wait, ur gonna seethe and call everyone here fagio or some shit you also samefag as it is you schizotranny.
>>751457980>my point is that you can still beat the Master without even having to fight him if you have the relevant stats.God forbid you bypass a combat by using the character skills you've invested into the entire game, by choice.
>>751457115I finished my 1st playthroughEvery playthrough after that, I lost interest the moment I entered the strip and dropped it
>>751460237*Are* you fagio? That's funny.
>>751459041>>751460542>"*insert Bethesda game here* is the greatest game of all time!">*posts modded gameplay* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0_8fr18MxIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ie2y5XLTKswa tale as old as time.
PSA: Fagio and the NVtranny are the same person, and xhe is a crazy troon, he is one certain NVfag from discord and Father Elijah's sharteen circlejerk, before the feds took him and he lied that he quit from doing videosXhe created this fabio fag to derail both NV and Fallout 3 threads, motherfucker never played the classic games either, goes after people calling him out, he had his ass exposed at /fog/ once, and he is now posting here at /v/ again because of TES6.
>>751459041>walks around clicking on enemies and they dieI even know what specific dungeon this is, it's 1000x better if you have a lighting mod to make the room darker since Deathclaws are actually a threat if they can hit you
>>751460887I consumed the time slow drug, sweetie.
>>751460542>AGP.webm
>>751460940You kill them in 2 hits, it's not exactly stimulating gameplay to watch or even play.
>>751460997Filtered.It's an RPG, it's about BEING the character and having fun in the world. The combat is also perfectly fine and even realistic.
>>751459041>>751459248>>751460076>>751460542You know, i may be a waifufag, but i would never mod my NV or Fo3 to look like this piece of shit out of some garbage troon fantasy at sharty.And i overly modded this garbage and i was even part of TTW for its early years
>>751461249Filtered.
>>751461295>Portland, Oregon winter>wearing a crop-top and shorts
>>751461376The Courier is a cyborg, she doesn't get cold.
>another zoomgroid seethe thread at the superior fallout game that isn't shatout 3Kek
it is easy to know that Fabio/NVshill is here because it is always the same obnoxious webms and screenshots xhe posted at /fog/ and /vrpg/
who tf is fabio
>>751461642The guy who made these.
>>751461742oh i love those
>>751461642A NVfag and sharteen from Father Elijah's groomcord channel who hates bethesda and interplay fallouts and shills NV, tbut the NV xhe shills is a modded trollish hellhole seen on the webms and screenshots here, and it is always the most obnoxious garbage.Xhe's been derailing all fallout related threads here for years and the mods never gives him the rangeban special, motherfucker schizos inbetween 2 characters and even created >>751461742 off sharty's pisscord to derail every fallout thread here.He even tried to fuck over /fog/ at /vg/ but since fog is pretty much dead thanks to gatchaspam generals at /vg/, he fucked back here.He was banned a lot but is never a 2 month or rangeban special, he went missing for a while, but now that bethesda announced TES6 and FoTV season 3 wrapped, he is back.
>>751462071Fabio hates NV, you retard.
>>751461742i thought those images were originally anti-NV? usually pretty funny though this one is coal>>751462071>Father Elijah's groomcordhe's still around?
>>751457115Because people don't like Bethesda
>>751462234He simply disappeared, deleted his channel and went missing after rumors of the feds going to his house for CP were semi-true, plus his pisscord is full of sharteens since he was one of the mods there.
>>751459041holy fuck that looks awful, reminds me of that meme hud image and one of the hud elements is a semen meter
>>751462340>deimos shart>calling anything awful
>>751457980>I've beaten Fallout 1 probably three or so times and I don't think I've ever actually fought the Master since it's so easy to just convince him to kill himself.Then fight him then faggot. Having options is bad?
FNV plot fundiemtnally doesn't work-Fallout 1, 2, 3, 4, and 76, all start off the same way. You're a person from an isolated community, typically a vault, who is forced out into the wasteland to save your friend/family from some impending catastrophe, and in the process get wrapped up in a larger plot that threatens the region. The games do this becuase it explains why your character, who starts off as a nobody with no skills, is going out into this dangerous, radioactive, wasteland full of giant mutant monsters.-NV on the other hand lacks all of this. The Courier has no ties to the Mojave, or anything it, nor do they have ties to the NCR or Legion. There is no reason for them to care about the NCR/Legion war, or anything else going on, and going after Benny by passing through this radioactive wasteland in the middle of a war thus comes off as psychotic, not logical.-NV then has both the NCR and Legion jump you the moment you reach the Strip, despite being able to reach the Strip without doing anything of note, or doing everything of note poorly, thus giving them no real reason why they'd want to recruit you-The other Fallout games, actually make joining factions require you do some meaningful feat to prove some level of skill, or tie it into the larger background of the narrative-Then the NCR/Legion send you on a bunch of quests that don't really matter in regards to repairing for the upcoming battle, while all the quests that would matter are 100% optional and don't do anything-All the other Fallout games have you doing stuff that directly helps beating the badguy by comparison.
>>751462858NV also has critical issues with its lore like-House wakes up from his coma well over a hundred years before the game begins, before Shady Sands is even founded, and then proceeds to do nothing to secure Vegas, or get its people under his control, because..... reasons.-The idea that Caesar, and elderly balding man with no knowledge of military tactics, and whose only real information about Rome was a few, very basic, textbooks, was able to take the 87 tribes and bring them up to a military level of something like the NCR makes no sense. Especially since the Legion primarily uses football gear and spears. This isn't a USA vs Vietnam situation. This is like the modern USA losing to actual native American tribals.-Even the devs seem to be aware of this becuase they make the NCR pants on head retarded to the point they stop acting like real people, and come across more like Loony Tunes Elmer Fudds, tricking over every banana peel left by the waskly wabbit of the Legion.-The war itself also makes little sense because the Legion has no anti-air weapons, the NCR has a small fleet of veritbirds parked on the Long 15 in viewing distance of the Ranger monument, Vertibirds are shown to be so tanky that they needed tesla cannons to take down reliably, and the NCR has access to mini-nukes. So why didn't the NCR just carpet bomb the Fort and kill Caesar which he would have no way of stopping?-The Legion's plans to get groups like the White Gloves, Khans, Fiends, and other, into their fold near exclusively don't make any sense, and often harm their own position more than helping, and thus come across as forced narratives just to find some way to wrap every faction into the MQ.
