What's Nintendo's secret?
Zero ambition
>>751459842Not making try hard convoluted bullshit.
>>751460017The fuck?!
>>751459842They know their audience is just cattle, so they jsut give them the same game with """""quality of life""""" stuff
>>751459842they turned a brand into a cult
>>751459842>Avoid adding time ghosts especially in a game about time travelIt was that easy
>>751459882>>751460528>>751460671>I'm so fucking mad slop I like doesn't get the same level of praise and success as they do!!Ever thought you're an edgelord with shit taste?
>>751460917nintendo people congregate with other people to form a circle and celebrate the birthday of a console like it's the coming of christ
>>751460917I think you might be retarded for thinking Remake wasn't a huge success.
>tendie immediately comes to defend daddy after his thread didn't work outkek
>>751459842A cult of retards
>>751459842Nostalgia and nothing else
pandering to the babby audience is a pretty solid marketing strategy as it eventually creates endless nintendo adults
>>751461031It's not, Zelda OoT is about to surpass it's lifetime sales already
>>751460812>>Avoid adding time ghosts especially in a game about time travelMore like the game story itself is garbage because if Link never picked up the master sword, Ganon would never be able to access the triforce therefore you win, ganon is just gonna be autistic and rageAnd its not like you need future link to defeat him, since you only defeat Ganon in the future, not child linkstory is stupidgame is stupid
Square Enix is simply unable to make a good game. If you can't make a good mainline Final Fantasy you can't make a good grounds-up remake of one either.
>>751461461are you retarded?thats because the gaming market has grown immensly
>>751461691The Switch 2 hasn't sold more than the N64 yet the remake is set too outsell the N64 original within weeks despite day 1 emulation of the game. There's no argument to be had here, the statistics speaks for themselves.
>>751459842>wow, an ff7 remake. i can finally play my favorite ff game for the first time>it's weird time ghost single player mmo with corridors and hidden load screens every 2 seconds and a game cut up into 3 parts and you fight sephiroth and gods at end of first part making anything after it seem trivial and pointlessman, that first couple hours just doing mmo fetch quests in slums was so fucking shit. jessie was only good thing and they killed her. they wanted to tell a new story and shit all over the original in process.
>>751461839if you could buy the original todayit would've been never outsoldjust think for only one secondbtw. the switch is horrendously more expansive than a Switch 2
>>751462006*the switch 2 is more expensive than a n64damnit
>>751459842Their Fandom is a cult, they get away with some of the most scummy shit in the industry, pump out bland mediocre games and no matter what their cult will suck them off.
>dude I play lel video games but hate Nintendo You need to be shot.
>>751459842>have a game that's widely considered to be one of if not the best of all time>remake understands what made it good and amplifies these aspects It's a mystery
>>751459842By not ruining iconic characters
>>751462063Adjusted for inflation they're roughly the same price.
>>751462006Nintendo sold digital copies of Ocarina of Time on the Wii, Wii U and physical copies on the 3DS. Fact of the matter is that the N64 original never sold as well as the remake has sold so far despite the larger installbase it had in the 1990s. >the switch 2 is more expensive than a n64True, but not by alot. The N64 was roughly $410-420 inflation adjusted while the Switch 2 was $450 at launch, now $500. Even so N64 games were in the $100+ range which still makes the Switch 2 a cheaper system to own.
>>751462187i don't hate nintendoi occasionally play nintendo gamesbut it is foolish to think their success stems from a good product and not being religiously praised
Imagine how good 7Rs sales would look now if we were allowed to count games sold during a deep sale. But we did previously establish that any copies of games sold during sales should be dismissed.
>>751462430>but it is foolish to think their success stems from a good product and not being religiously praisedThat's a retarded fucking take to drop in an Ocarina of Time thread of all places.
>>751462482this needs to be a thing. so many games mention millions sold, but buying capcom slop for $2.99 or witcher shit games for $1 is not really same as selling 2 million at full price. they needed to hit sales quotas and basically gave away games and hope hte momentum makes franchises or recoups losses on dlc, etc.
>If you make 1:1 remakes, nobody buys them or likes themHeh
>>751459842They just have that special something that makes their games magical
>>751462482>always re-release your JRPG a year later at full price with more content which other games would deliver as DLC or even a free patch>WTF WHY AREN'T PEOPLE BUYING OUR NEW JRPGDeserved flop, first of many I hope.
Zelda sold well because tendies have nothing else to play for the rest of the year, the remake will be forgotten after a few weeks 1:1 remakes have no impact, ask Metal Gear.
>>751462905The entire remake trilogy will be forgotten after a month when it's finally done, doomed to only be discussed by the obsessive nohopers who cling to this IP due to an unhealthy attachment to the characters. The world will move on, but this dwindling group of autistic balding millennials will still insist the trilogy was a phenomenal success and continue discussing it like the shit movie that came out 20 years ago that nobody but them cares about.tl;dr: The OG will continue to be a classic, the remake trilogy will be tossed on the garbage pile like all other compilation trash.
>>751459842Take absolutely no risks and just release the same game. Square should have been more creatively bankrupt if they wanted more success.
>>751462905Delta was also reviewed much worse than the original. OoT's lower metascore can be attributed to having 102 reviews instead of 22.
N64 owners were just kids who wanted to have a good time, S2 owner are Nintendo cultist who will be every Nintendo product just to prove how Nintendo is much better Thant everyone else, very different fanbase.
>>751462905it's easy for ff7 schizos to talk about other games being "forgotten" when their obsession over the cast don't let them think about anything else.yes the freak cunts on twitter with zack avatars will "remember" remake forever because they don't think about anything else.if you want to talk about "impact" you have to look at normal people, and most normal people stopped giving a fuck about 7R a week after the first game came out. rebirth sales fell off a cliff and now they sell both games for 10 bucks.where is this "impact" exactly? it doesn't exist outside the obsessive fan circles who would still be talking about cloud and sephiroth today regardless of if remake existed or not
Why is it that every videogame that outperforms FFVIIR in any way doesn't count? There's always some excuse to wriggle out of it.
>>751463197>N64 owners were just kids who wanted to have a good time, S2 owner are Nintendo cultistNintendo console owners are always in the child-adult cultist superposition. This has been true for online discourse before you were even born.
>>751463383>Nintendo console owners are always in the child-adult cultist superpositionliterally what causes this. is it the chicken tenders
>>751463015true
Where is Zelda’s impact, people are already finishing the game, besides the graphics and some new dialogue what is there to talk about?
>>751459842Square-Enix is full of retards. How that company hasn't been shut down years ago is beyond me. That being said, the OoT demake looks hideous, and just as soulless as FF7 Demake.
>>751463470People that actually like video games are always either children or manchildren. The third position is der normalfag which you will find in the nearest CoDslop, GTA or Halo nostalgia thread, but these shouldn't be considered even human.
>>751459842They actually made a complete and good game.They didn't cut oot into pieces to sell as stand alone games, and then filled each piece with filler shit just to extend the play time and justify 70 dollars for each chapter.
Fanboys have always been a thing, remember the 16 bit console wars? But the Nintendo fanbase wasn’t nearly as unhinged until the switch launched.
>>751463705hey don't forget the DLC chapters and the mobile tie in games and novels that you need to find out who the side characters who keep wasting your time are
>>751463705>They actually made a complete and good game.Sure, because the original game is a complete and good gamewhere's the remake merit?
>>751459842Making shit cause FF7 Remake mogs Zelda
>>751459842I didn't play Final Fantasy, but with Zelda they simply stayed faithful to the original. I didn't sense there were any big changes in atmosphere of locations or in characters from what I remember of the original and those are the parts where remakes usually fail.
>>751459842No time ghosts.
>>751459842>daily FFVIIR seethe threadThis again?I love how hard this game triggers schizos like you, Barry. kek
>>751463829>merityou mean taking a decade to make one game and padding it out with the worst braindead kingdom hearts autism possible? just making them different to make them longer, not better? that "merit"?
>>751463829>where's the remake merit?It doesn't really matter if you can't see it because 5 million other people did.
>>751464029>>751459842He can't handle the fact Square Enix is doing very well. lulz
>>751464074>>751464087You cant even answer the question. It is simple: OoT remake is good because the original is good.FF7R is good because the game itself is good.
When you put them next to each other like that it really makes SE look bad. Please stop that.
>>751459842They don't port to PC so they sell about 10m less copies.
>>751464164I did answer the question, it's self-evident that the remake has merit since it was a successful commercial product by any standard you'd put it under. Meanwhile, here's what Square has to say about FF7R: https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/final-fantasy-7-rebirth-and-final-fantasy-16-did-not-meet-expectations-says-square-enix
>>751464029>shipped
>>751463523>picholy fucking soulless
>>751459842FF7 is on the switch and sold more copies.OoT is on N64, 3DS, and Switch 2 and sold less copies.Really makes you think why Nintendo hates money.
>>751463501People complete the game and move on with their lives. What is there to say which hasn't already been said multiple times in the past 30 years? As for impact, you can expect more people to insist OoT is one of if not the best game ever made as more people are playing it.
>>751464296Ok, shareholder. Let's keep measuring the games merit though sales. That's what it matters.
OoT sold well because BotW made Zelda much popular than ever before, without it OoTr would have probably sold a lot less maybe it wouldn’t even have been remade in first place.
>>751464441It's a more objective metric than whatever standards you're using. Besides, it's Square themselves that are saying it, not me.
>>751459842Not taking a single game and turning it into a whole damn series is nice. It's the bare minimum though.
>>751464164>FF7R is goodI'm afraid not>>751464441Why aren't you saying that to >>751464029 and >>751464142, who is the same guy replying to himself in order to salespost.
>>751464453>maybe it wouldn’t even have been remade in first placeNintendo stated that this was a training exercise for a new internal team. My guess is that they will be releasing open world and traditional Zelda games side by side with separate teams working on the games and that Echoes of Wisdom graphics wouldn't cut it in the future.
>>751463250This
>>751463250>the Revelation trailer viewsOH NONONONO
People buy Nintendo consoles to play Nintendo games, Zelda is their big holiday title, FF7 never had such a massive push.
>>751464768And so we're in the coping phase.
>>751459842Left is an Advent Children prequel. I knew it would be dogshit the moment I heard Advent Children music during the reveal trailer in 2015. Now they're confirmed they're going to connect Revelation to Advent Children. Calling it Remake was a blatant lie the people saw though, as Rebirth's sales are so shit that SE has never shown the numbers.
>>751464698let me guess, they're only half of what the persona 6 logo reveal are?
>>751463250Normal people haven't given a shit about Final Fantasy since the Playstation 2 days. It's absolutely fucking over and the average FFag is a blue haired asylum escapee foid.
>>751464869>halfSE wishes
>>751464768>FF7 never had such a massive pushholy fucking revisionism batmanff7 remake dropped right at lockdown when suddenly everyone was home with nothing to do. it got a huge push. the problem is most people didn't like it enough to finish it or buy the second part when it came out. even fewer will buy part 3.
>>751464910Perhaps telling the audience that Square knows better for what the audience wants will work the 15th time instead of leading to increasingly declining sales like it usually does.
>>751464768lmao kys
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>>751464985people were mocking the terrible outfits and SE's desperation to link 7 to 10 by now adding dress spheres
>>751460017those gormless puppet designs are pretty tryhard for what should have been a faithful remake ala the 3DS version...
> holy fucking revisionism batmanff7 remake dropped right at lockdown when suddenly everyone was home with nothing to do. it got a huge push. the problem is most people didn't like it enough to finish it or buy the second part when it came out. even fewer will buy part 3.So what? FF7 was the only game released during covid? How many big switch holiday games are going to be released besides Zelda?
>>751465119>FF7 was the only game released during covid?No, it was just the only game released during Covid that somehow failed to meet its sales expectations.
>>751465119retard can't even quote properly - must be shaking hard
>>751459842It's a toy company that knows their audience. People doesn't need a complicated stuff to enjoy their slop.
>>751464956so fucking desperate
>>751465210meant for>>751465119
>3 padded games of emo-phase Cloudwho thought this was a good idea?
>>751465119>it's not fair... ffviir never got a push...Yes it did, it got the lockdown push>SO WHAT???Man why does anyone waste their time talking to you childish faggots
>Final FloptasyThis franchise peaked last century bruh
> No, it was just the only game released during Covid that somehow failed to meet its sales expectations.Because FF isn’t a big player anymore, people online don’t represent the average gamer, BotW sold 30m that’s 3d og FF7.
>>751465184holy ESL batman
>>751465393>BotW sold 30m that’s 3d og FF7.There's no way you actually believe this. BotW has more in common with fucking Morrowind.
>Revelations still using UE4
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>>751459842How are people not fucking upset that OOT remake is literally the same fucking game with no added story, backstroy to characters like Saria, no new scenes, no added dungeons or new bosses. At least FF7 remake actually REMADE the fucking game and gave you more, like dates with Jessie and shit which all fans wanted. You don't get dates with Saria or Malon.
>>751465509Here they come! Here come all the replies by the same guy saying that's a good thing!Just remember to ask "them" what ISN'T a good thing about 7R and see how "they" take it.
>>751465586You know that a substantive portion of the complaints against the FF7 remakes are that they aren't faithful, right?
7Rfags are somehow more insufferable than 7fags.
BotW and TotK sold 53m, the entire FF franchise sold 215m, which franchise is bigger now?
>>751465784This is just pathetic.
>>751465586fans didn't want the stupid shit they added to 7R
>>751465598the fuck are you on about you schizoi just think it's hilarious that this dogshit trilogy has taken so long that they're still using UE4 in 2027
>>751465586Adult Link sex with Malon in the barn would have been kino.
>>751465837I think they could have made it work, but what they should have done was release a faithful remake first and then build the reimaginings off of that.
>>751465784mindbroken
>>751465932I agree. But 7Rschizos need to pretend everything about their shit game is good actually.
>>751459842This is the only noteworthy remake. Only one that has been legitimately influential. Capcom is simply on another level from other companies.
>>751459842I'm having a hard time hating oot remake. I'm not a fan of the voices and the design is a bit off putting at first. But I don't know, oot is such a great game, that I can't help but have fun. It helps too that it's been a while since I've played a more traditional Zelda game, after botw and totk. And the oot dungeons are great.
>>751466458>guys, help! I'm enjoying a videogame when I'm supposed to be hating it!
>>751466091oops wrong pic
>>751466458As i thought, the game is great just because the original is great. There's no point in the remake at all.
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>>751466565Indeed! I'm so used to new games being trash, that playing a good one is refreshing.
>>751466671REmake is okay but it came out only 6 years after the original and was mechanically very similar. RE2make was essentially a new game and it took a lot of risks while still understanding what made the classic formula work.
>>751466707I mean yes. This is pretty much the same game with some QoL. If you've already played oot, you're not going to find anything new here. But, what else would you expect? Babies can't play the og game because of graphics.
>>751466707There's appeal in updating graphics (faithfully) and upgrading performance from the original 20 fps. Make no mistake, there's no point remaking or remastering games from 7th gen or beyond because those games still look good, but I doubt anyone arguing in good faith can claim 5th gen 3D games haven't aged graphically despite holding a certain appeal.
>>751466927>he doesn't replay good gamesThat's weird, but alright.
>>751459842two retarded cults
>>751467079what? where do I say that?
>>751465586This
>>751466840>and it took a lot of risksNo it didn't, it conformed to modern standards
>>751463250Exactly
>>751463250i can tell this is a jimbo post judging by the obvious samefaggingso i guess this is a jimbo statement, huh? that's weird, i thought he liked the remake
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>>751463250Nobody seems to be willing to say why they think you're wrong
>>751465586>You don't get dates with Saria or Malon.Meanwhile in reality.
>>751464956Ironically, during the lockdowns, FF7 remake got mogged by the Zelda clone.
>>751459842Their fanbase just buys their shit without question
>>751465119Funny how everyone attributes genshin impact success to the COVID lockdowns
>>751465076It's the most similar to the way N64 models looked, and gave it a style to it. 3DS wasn't that much more hi-poly.What are we even complaining about? lmao
>>751472610>the same autistic nitpicks compilation
>>751459842At least FF7R is worth playing and isnt the same game but with new graphics and casualisation.
>>751475023>FF7R is worth playinglol
