I want Wild Card for Wonderswan Color and Speedpower Gunbike on PSX next please sir

>>751470694
Honestly even if not everything is translated perfectly, it's really cool to see and I'm happy it's something that can be done now so freely and easily
Same with the ability to fix "localized" translations
One of the good use cases for AI for sure, and I won't hear otherwise

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>>751470694
I have played a few of them like Brightis and they are fucking garbage man. AI isn't good enough yet to justify this spam. I bet the person uploading this garbage doesn't even test it or try beating the game with it first. Spike really let his website go to shit when he allowed autistic retards to spam uploading whatever retarded shit they want to the Repo. Its just flooded with junk now.

bros...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxOmlNFVop0

thats cause translators tried turning it into a 9-5 job and would cocktease you every 3-4 months with the whole "we got 5% if the game translated again xD, please send us donations since we give our full attention to these projects :P"

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>>751470694
>ai translations are good bros, please buy a claude subscription!

>>751471160
god, i was waiting for the summon night swordcraft story 3 translation for years now....
that shit took so long. but at least they finally released it

>>751470694
Is there a site for these? I like Asa Project VNs but most of the newer ones aren't translated yet

>>751470694
>Sol trigger
so is it finished now ?
i wanted to play it but they only translated 50% and dipped out

>>751470694
Cdromance is still down for me. What is this site?

>>751471254
Nice try Miyamoto-san.

The VN I translated was tested by me from start to finish. Stop gaslighting, fag.

>>751471160
To be fair, making a translation fucking sucks. Flashing their e-peen is about the only joy they can get out of it.

same thing is happening in the manga translator scene
all you gotta do is MTL 5 chapters of a manga that a group is holding hostage under a paywall and they immediately release all chapters

>>751470694
As long as people label their AI translations.

>>751470694
Please tell me they did DQ11

>>751471365
Boku no Pico

>>751470694
Retard, theres a reason translators dont just shove everything into google translate. Enjoy your shitty slop

most games don't really need translations. you just try buttons and see what they do. requires a bit trial and error but generally it's not big problem. and anyway when you do that long enough you learn the words automatically anyways

>>751471550
i did that with a certain h-doujin, since no one is touching some of the more niche ones out there and waiting for them to be translated now would be retarded, with AI around

>>751471563
>clearly labelled as AI/Machine translated
>trannies in the comment section seethe endlessly about it anyway
lmao

>>751471707
I can see it being annoying because you can't filter out AI stuff on sites most of the time.

>>751471631
>theres a reason translators dont just shove everything into google translate
because using google translate as an API was prohibitively expensive
unless you're trying to imply that it was because of some quality reasons because just lol

>>751470694
this and nonsensical ports are pretty fun, the AI niggas are alright

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>>751470694
Let's see the quality of those translations though

>>751471823
>can't filter AI stuff
>which is why I am going to seethe on AI stuff for dozens of posts
lmao faggot ass tranny

>>751471889
You're experiencing the quality of AI writing every day on 4chan.org

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>Spending teenage days playing SRW Alpha trilogy with google yranslate
>Now the whole SRW franchise is fully translated
>Don't have the time to play them anymore let alone actually finish a single game

Life is so fucking cruel

>>751471217
just get a less shit fetish bro

>>751471889
>AI translations are held to a higher standard than official localizations
we really are living in a clown world

>>751471365
Meatspin.Ae

>>751471217
for every one of these purityfags there are 5 dudes translating the same shit out there and even drawing in nipples and vag out of spite
stop reading from shit sources

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>>751471823
Except you can, you fucking retard.

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>>751471889
From the retrotrans srw mx patch after cleaning
>>751471823
>>751471920
Funnily enough, Repo does in fact let you filter those

>>751471595
for 3ds? yes

>>751471995
No shit? there's a thing called human error and doing shit at a click of a button, but you retarded jeets wouldn't know that.
>>751471920
You first poonam

>>751472076
That's useful.
>>751472071
>>751471920
I said "most of the time", no need to be so insecure about it.

Remember when trannylators decided to run a multiple site wide harassment campaign against the translator who was doing all Goemon games because he translated a crossdressing 5 o clock shadow man "derogatorily"?
Don't let them fool you into thinking they give a shit about quality. They seethe about AI because it disrupts their incestuous community.
Now a favela dwelling brazillian can shit out machine translations faster than they can do their "quality work" AND release the tools for anyone to edit the games for free

>>751472150
>shitjeet tranny starts projecting immediately
just rangeban india at this point

Nanatsu Kaze no Shima Monogatari got translated
Heres hoping someone translates the Sega Saturn version of Chaos Seed.

translations that you have no way of gauging the quality of.
even though ai is god-tier for programming it still gets basic shit wrong when it comes to translation. I can only imagine how bad it is for a language that likes to leave 90% of a sentence implied like japanese.

>>751471995
What kind of persecution fetish is this? Or did you just wake up out of a coma and missed /v/ shitting on official localizations for years straight

If it's shit it's shit. It doesn't matter if it's a robot or a human. You're all being held to the same standards. That's why people always say to use community localizations, as they will actually be accountable for mistakes and want to fix anything that's wrong. The fact that you don't want AI translations to be exposed when they're shit and forced to be fixed means you're being just as bad as localization trannies that do the same exact thing, and are being held to that same standard.

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Post your childhood game that's impossible for AI to translate.

>>751471128
It's about time someone noticed the whole kenka bancho series and translating them

>>751470694
it's amazing, like everyday there are like 8 to 10 new translations

>>751472305
>n-no you
you wouldn't be able to post here anymore, poonam. Now go drink your shit soda.

>>751472393
Don't you have some fire emblem localizations to defend you "quality" connoisseur

>>751471365
Retrogametalk friend. You need to make a account.

Might give The Witch of Salzburg a shot.

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>>751472393
>If it's shit it's shit

>>751472451
Nobody wants to think about your shitjeet ass
Stop inserting your cursed race into every discussion and kill yourself

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Hope someone does The Last Ranker full script, would really like to play that.
I'll conceede i'm finding a lot of games i've never even heard of. I was aware of pic, i'm a zetman fag so i'll be playing it.
But i didn't know about Baelphareth

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>>751470694
It's been great seeing AI contribute to an influx of patches for games, like the psp script port for Persona 1. My main issue lies with MTL, everything I tried that was machine translated has been subpar and not as good or concise as a human made translation, and vibecoding made without any kind of quality check to make sure everything works fine.
Still, seeing games that had never had fantranslations projects getting released does get me excited, I've always wanted to play Super Robot Wars Z and seeing the AI patch made me rethink if I won't or need to play mtl translations.

>>751471254
>>751471365
>Niggas don't know about the Repo
https://retrogametalk.com/repo/

>>751472415
here's a link, don't bother with that adware one
https://drive.usercontent.google.com/download?id=1wsOt1w63FEq4p72Md_sBtF1TFniTOPNv&export=download&authuser=0

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>>751470694
I'd rather learn Japanese in a world without *AI* than live in a world with *AI* and translated anime.

>>751472785
>I'd rather learn Japanese in a world without *AI*
Well why didn't you?

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>>751470694
>disables ai results from showing up in my search
No way fag, keep your low effort slop trash to yourselves.

>751472381
lol
lolcalizers doing damage control non-stop like anyone will believe them

>>751471938
Here's to hoping you can catch a break soon, anon.

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>>751470694
They should at least translate games that no one has ever any intention or interest of a translation.

>>751471823
Youtube needs this fucking feature badly. I have to blacklist third world ai roach channels every fucking day to not have it overtake my feed.

>>751472921
you mean like the ones they are doing?

>>751472732
dayum thanks

>>751472651
Do not spoonfeed, not only is it a bad practice but it draws unwanted attention that will get it targeted and shut down.

>>751472381
>translations that you have no way of gauging the quality of.
by that metric, aren't all translations untrustworthy regardless of if they are fantranslations, mtl slop or your usual localization garbage?

Is Devil Summoner transleted yet, not including Spanish?

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>p-people don't actually want free magical translations of classics haha none of it is good p-plz my mom is sick subscribe to my hooman translations

>>751473148
yeah

>>751470694
Amazingly delusional that you think an LLM can translate anything or understand context, especially as nuanced as japanese.

I don't mind the AI guys as long as they release accompanying tools for their fan releases, so I can just edit something in the dialogue .json script and shove it back into the game without having to pinpoint it in Ghidra

>>751471365
No Limits Gaming.

Why is AI, being trained on human writing and localizations, immune from doing the same shit human localizers do?

>>751473326
This. The tool was able to able to catch on manga references and tropes from Japanese TV in the 80s.

>>751470694
How come this site still doesn't have Xbox, Xbox 360 and PS3 catalogue yet? Too risky? I know Vimm has them but cdromance/retrogamestalk felt like a much better website and it has easy to find hacks, pre patched games, and english patched stuffs that keeps getting updated too.

>>751473326
Can a localizer? Does the localizer, even if he can, translate references, or does he ignore them?

>>751470694
So what's stopping some half decent editor from cleaning up the worst of the sloppiness? Most of the errors I've seen aren't egregious enough to prohibit it's use entirely like the anti-AI crowd want, and there's far too many untranslated games to reasonably do by hand.

>>751472845
>*crickets*

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>>751470694
The problem is that they completely kill anyone trying to do a non-AI translation because of it now existing, and tons of people aren't even properly spellchecking or proofreading what they're doing. I can't remember what it was I saw the other day, I think it was Langrisser V, but the guy behind it doesn't know Japanese at all and didn't even proofread it.

I am very grateful for some of them though, I know the Medabots translations simply wouldn't happen considering after all these years we've had like two because the fanbase is just that small. Would love to see someone take a stab at Telefang 2 or Network Boukenki Bugsite considering the guys behind the original Telefang translation were depressed at the fact that the translation of the original didn't really make waves in the fanbase or get Telefang more known so those two projects will probably never see the light of day. Same deal with a patch for Bistro Recipe, the amount of Fighting Foodons fans that exist to this day must be in the dozens.

>>751473525
I'd assume space since these type of games can be bloated.

>>751471217
I'd love to see an entire doujin where literally all of the text is like this

>>751473665
>The problem is that they completely kill anyone trying to do a non-AI translation because of it now existing
No it doesn't
If it didn't get one before, it's not getting one any time soon.
We've been through this, hell, even official translation are not stopping people from releasing their own stuff. Just look at manga where multiple groups can release their own version of a chapter.
Yes, i agree these people could a better work, and overall there can be a better usage of the tool. But let's not use that retarded argument.

>DOOD!! TONS OF SLOP TRANSLATIONS YIPPE!!!
Yikes.

>>751474000
have fun waiting a decade or two for a single game being translated

>>751473525
My guess is the same as >>751473670, PS3/360 games are probably too large for their servers, Idk about Xbox, maybe there's simply not enough interest to put their games on there, the site seems to focus on japanese stuff.
>>751473430
Because it's a tool and it won't do the egregious parts of localization like adding in the localizer's politics or removing cultural references unless asked to?

>MTL seamonkeys begging for patreon subs now use Claude and ChatGPT
well
it's a step up at least, i think

>>751472845
I don't really play those games or care for them. I did learn english to play the games i like.

>>751474000
Compared to waiting 10+ years and practically begging translators on X to pay attention to my game than some VN from 1995

>>751472076
How's the Alpha 1 translation btw? It's been a decade and a half since it was supposed to come out

I do something much worse than AI translation. I use my semester of elementary Japanese plus Google Translate Classic (no gemini cringe). It's unbelievably shitty-kino.

>>751472414
>impossible
Why?

>>751473904
>Just look at manga where multiple groups can release their own version of a chapter.
This is video gaming where the scope is significantly larger and more time-intensive than manga scanlations. Go look at how everyone refused to touch a retranslation patch for Yakuza 3 despite all the cut content and known issues because an official translation existed. I seem to recall someone asking about it on GameFAQs or GBATemp years ago and being asked why you would even bother since it's already translated. It took until Sega did them themselves for someone to backport the translation from the remaster to the PS3 version and then also restore the cut content. Even in the TV subbing space it took more than a decade before anyone got fed up with TV-Nihon's translations to actually retranslate their work on Kamen Rider seasons.

The chance someone actually bothers is very slim, especially for much smaller or more niche games. Squeenix games are the only games I can think of offhand that actually get retranslations and multiple variations and even then typically only two or three projects exist in 20+ years.

>>751473525
Those games are in Archive.org

>>751473665
This is telling. So most fan translations are done for notoriety and not genuine passion. The existence of a MTL shouldn't dissuade someone who cares from doing their own unless they want the internet fame for doing it. The best scenario would be knowledgeable bilingual fans proofreading the MTL for accuracy so that making these things are less of a time sink requiring them to beg for pennies to justify the effort.

>>751470694
>wait 20yrs for a translation
>AI pops off
>translation group suddenly comes back saying they're working on it for real this time and have melties
Why are they like this?

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>>751475301
>The existence of a MTL shouldn't dissuade someone who cares from doing their own unless they want the internet fame for doing it.
The problem is that it gets less waves and attention leading to less people bothering to use it leading to the effort feeling like a waste of time for people who did it because now they feel like no one is using it as the original MTL got the spotlight. It's not a matter of clout, it's a matter of killing morale. Obviously people will still do secondary translations, but when only a small amount of people will even bother with your hundreds of hours of effort they'll also weight that into consideration. The Telefang translation took I think eight or ten years to come out because like two guys were working on it from what I recall and outside of RetroAchievements it's buried because of the reputation of Pokemon Diamond and Jade.

>>751475301
>The existence of a MTL shouldn't dissuade someone who cares from doing their own unless they want the internet fame for doing it.
Or maybe people have an aversion to spending 2-3 years of their lives working on something that's not going to get seen by anyone?
The point is that they'd rather translate something that will actually be read by people, actually add something to the world. People do want a bit of appreciation for their efforts, it's selfish I know but that's human nature.
I don't translate games but I translate manga, whenever some other group would pick my series up, I'd just let them do it because my efforts could be better spent on other manga translations, no point in having two translations. If it's my top 3 favorite manga maybe I'd continue just because I feel like I'm the only one who can do it right, but not that passionate about EVERY single series.
(And no I don't care for "notoriety" because I translate them as anonymous.)

>>751470694
If playing that counts as beating the game, savestates and cheats count too.

>>751471160
It's funny that every single zealous pro AI person turns out to be just fundamentally anti human sub human

>>751474570
Haven't played it myself but an anon at /srwg/ did and said it was pretty good.
He is currently playing through Alpha 2, and so far ahs said the patch isn't as good as A1. But even then, it's still better than Moon Dwellers when it was released.

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>>751470694
Its very nice, can finally play kisekko gurumi in english.

>>751475963
>You're anti-human if you don't give me endless money so I can take 5+ years to translate this 4 hour VN
Nah.

>>751476261
cute girl

>>751471325
Yep

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>>751476832
i still have to finish the game to get all clothes and play dress-up

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I'm on my sixth or so attempt, this time for sure!

>>751474237
>>MTL seamonkeys begging for patreon subs now use Claude and ChatGPT
I am sure it was real in your head

>>751471995
>higher standard
official localizations get put under a microscope every day on here, that guy just asked if these were good lmao

>>751477581
what
that's a running thing for manga

>>751475665
>It's not a matter of clout
If it's not a matter of clout then why be lazy and stop if you know that a better product could be delivered?

Being first doesn't guarantee quality like you said but it does guarantee downloads and views.

How long until they run out of games to translate? It's only been about a year since these MTL translation mods started booming and it feels like the majority of in-demand games already have one. What's next after AI translation, AI eng dubs?

>>751478110
>AI eng dubs?
disgusting, plus AI voice is still fucky with making the voices not sound dull most of the time.

>>751478110
>AI eng dubs?
Already happened.

>>751478110
Don't worry, 99% of the current AI translations are shit so expect years of rerereretranslations!

>>751478540
>2-2 MORE WEEKS!

>>751478393
Wasn't the first big AI controversy related to some kid using a bunch of AI voices for his Scooby Doo YT project?

>>751477947
>If it's not a matter of clout then why be lazy and stop if you know that a better product could be delivered?
Again, because it means significantly less people are now going to even bother using it. Even if your quality is superior people are going to have their effort massively deflated and morale killed because the MTL version came out first and got all the eyeballs while their work done by hand and is properly done is going to be overlooked by everyone but the smaller niches that research the best translation patch. That kills people's morale and projects on the vine. Why do you think the original Majora's Mask recomp or decomp (I forgot which) got rushed out the door before the proper one finished? Because they wanted the eyeballs on their work instead of the other group even though the other group's work is better from what I recall.

>>751478110
>What's next after AI translation, AI eng dubs?
While I haven't seen AI dubs yet, people are randomly inserting English dubs in translation patches and literally making them the default option like Rhythm Heaven Advance for example. They don't even use the official English dub for the songs that do exist (Marcher for example doesn't use Megamix's Marching Orders EN dub), they had some random people record their own dub for it and you have to go to the settings to get the original audio rather than defaulting to the Japanese and making their fandub optional.

>>751478772
It was a while ago but it was one of the more early cases of controversy with ai

I just can't fathom this. Who the fuck wants AI dubs? Translations is not enough for you that "you want more"? The OG dub is so bad it needs to be "redubbed"? Game has no voice acting it needs to have them?

>>751470694
Why did fan translations take so fucking long anyways?

>>751478823
what, nigger just decided to not translate it and change the names and descriptions for no reason? fucking faggots holy shit

I'm still seething over this being abandoned. https://github.com/camd11/srw-og-gaiden-en

>>751478919
>Again, because it means significantly less people are now going to even bother using it.
You're wrong on this one. People will always move to a superior translation if it's there.

We literally just got a real hungry ghost translation from the guy who's been working on it off and on for over 10 years for example.

Hopefully we get some of the untranslated Eushully games with this. Be nice to leave the era of janky hook-in programs in the past.

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>>751470694
honestly this is amazing even if it's a little rough. Not having to deal with the mental illness that plagues the translation scene is a godsend. No more having to deal with muh feelings, muh it's free except I work faster if you give to my patreon except when I don't, and certainly no more I had an episode and deleted the whole thing. Never thought I'd see Jap rival schools done but AI made it happen

>>751471325
My man. Also, dont forget to grab the HD texture pack.

>>751478987
Honestly I don't even know.

Dubbing any work is a crapshoot but I can only think of a handful of examples

>PCE Rondo
>Ys 4 PCE
>These were back when nobody really knew how to actually insert subtitles
>Xanadu 1-2 were suppose to have a dubbed version but it blew up in their faces years ago and they finally just went "Fuck it" and used subtitles
>Bulk Slash
>The first PopoloCrois for the narrator

Huge day for brown people who are too annoying to use even this site.

>>751470694
Can someone be a bro and link me another download link to the sakura psp versions? Too lazy to make a account

>>751479115
The Alpha 1 guy recently also just did SRW gaiden

To be honest I'm not sure why the original PS2 SRW fan translation team didn't just buckle down and do it themselves they already did OG2.5 which had like 10 missions. Just fucking do it. Whatever I guess

>>751479319
>certainly no more I had an episode and deleted the whole thing.
Nope, this is still a thing. AIfags can't handle criticism.

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>>751475301
>This is telling. So most fan translations are done for notoriety and not genuine passion. The existence of a MTL shouldn't dissuade someone who cares from doing their own unless they want the internet fame for doing it. The best scenario would be knowledgeable bilingual fans proofreading the MTL for accuracy so that making these things are less of a time sink requiring them to beg for pennies to justify the effort.

Why would anyone with any sense ever want to proof read and fix a shitty MTL script that only exists because a careless jackass had AI do for him?

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haha this is SOOO epic XD. As an admin of the Repo, I say this AI romhack is fucking epic and needs to be on the catalog. Fucking Win. WIIIIIIIIIN.

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>>751473785

>>751479761
Still better than a tranny GB homebrew game

>>751471217
my dick

>>751479039
>Custom tools have to be made to even edit the games.
Go look at Ouendan and how it took like a decade before they figured out how the text was placed on the manga panels.
>Font issues are constant because they expect Japanese scripts so they never expected English levels of dialogue to be placed into the available space.
Yakuza Kenzan had enormous issues because letters you got were vertical while dialogue boxes were horizontal and both had to be hacked to fit English words. Fire Emblem and Earthbound are also filled with these issues on Gaiden and the GBA ports respectively. Dialogue or names constantly either need to be truncated or outright culled to fit what's available to them. That's why Dragon Quest translation patches have to pretty heavily truncate or cut off equip and spell names.
>They can't check their work on the fly. They typically have to patch their games and manually check how it looks in game.
This is especially a problem because the dialogue they get to translate is usually not in order. Even official translators complain that they basically get handed a bunch of dialogue out of context and get told to translate it with a game bible at hand for some context at best.
>Translating something like even a light JRPG is equivalent to professionally translating an actual several hundred page novel. VNs can be the equivalent of translating War and Peace to another language.

>>751479156
>People will always move to a superior translation if it's there.
A smaller group of people will compared to what it would have been if not for the MTL version hogging the initial hype cycle. I never said people wouldn't adopt it, I said it would overshadow it which it would. The only people who would pivot would be much more hardcore fans instead of the majority of fans using that as the baseline. It takes years for people to adopt new versions and people still to this day argue which Final Fantasy retranslations are proper because there's so many of them.

>>751479810
HA, You got that right friend. Shrek is not dreck and fucking EPIC. Get owned trannies, this is fucking hilarious LMAO. More people need to make Shreck hacks!!!

Thank you for doing the needful saar

>>751479761
>>751479892
really
who fucking cares?
if you don't like it, don't play it.
it's just for fun

>>751479810
Tranny GB game was actually played for, and nobody is playing these free hacks, that shit says everything lol. Keep sponsoring your cousins project tho, maybe he’ll send back enough DurkaDollars to get you out of Kashmir before you die.

>>751480103
>and nobody is playing these free hacks
ah yes anon because you are 100% sure nobody else played it, sure

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>>751479761
Damn, this is low effort

>>751479849
>said it would overshadow it which it would.
Not true. it was mocked for years as an example of shitty MTL. You can't even download it from the repo anymore because it was so shit it was replaced. Years later people are going to just remember the actual finished translation

Another case: The first Rocket Slime game got retranslated, hell it was by the same guy who put the original MTL he even said that it was never meant to be public and was only used for testing his text extraction program. Some guys stepped up and gave him proper script to work with

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>>751480057
I knooooow, the haters need to just relax and enjoy things! Shrek memes are so fucking funny. I want to see more AI meme hacks on the repo. Can someone make The Bee Movie Final Fantasy 7 please? It would be sooooo fucking epic and funny lmao

i used ai to help me learn japanese over the last year
checking the etymology of some of the kanji is really enlightening

ai is an assistant, if you're using it as a replacement you might be the raped

>>751479892
Seething.

>>751480103
You do realize every upload on spike's site has a download counter right. You're literally wrong on this

>>751479156
>People will always move to a superior translation if it's there.
this, a relatively recent case i can remember are the decade old puyo 15th and 7 translations that were very wonky to say the least (not in a grammar way, more in a making up bullshit way) before the console versions got more accurate ones in the last couple years.
any inaccurate translations are gonna get scrutinized, AI ones will be looked at even harder when time and time again people have seen it hallucinate and make up shit or the creator is just too lazy to fix it cause they probably don't know the language themselves like with the wave of shitty recomps.

>>751471160
Turns out destroying the economy meant people would have less time for hobby projects

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>he plays AI slop translations for Muh Accuracy
>He doesn't play based old-school translations with edgy humor and early 2000s pop culture references for the soul
NGMI

>>751480476
>He doesn't play based old-school translations with edgy humor and early 2000s pop culture references for the soul
Anon dejap is dead....

>>751480208
>. I want to see more AI meme hacks on the repo
yes i do, it can be funny sometimes
>Can someone make The Bee Movie Final Fantasy 7 please? It would be sooooo fucking epic and funny lmao
well you just have to wait, someone probably will do it.

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>>751480548
AI could never EVER be this kino

>>751480747
A dead group cant translate games so AI wins.

>>751479721
Why would someone spend half a decade translating something for maybe a few thousand (depending on the game) to play? If the goal is servicing others (judging by replies highlighting downloads and plays) why would you not pick the easier work load for what's often unpaid labor? If you're just doing it for yourself then you're not part of the discussion.

>>751478919
If it's not about clout then why care how many people play your version of the translation? Be happy that you can make even a small amount of people happy.

>>751480189
>Years later people are going to just remember the actual finished translation
Which I'm not denying. The problem is the initial first few years will make the translators feel like failures as they were only able to appeal to a smaller group of people due to the initial MTL version being the widely used one at the time and taking up the initial hype cycle of a game getting a patch, especially by people who don't know better. Fire Emblem is plagued by this issue even without MTL ones because people don't know which version of which patch is the actual properly updated one unless you dig around Serenes Forest.

This kills the morale for people to actually even try is the whole point. It doesn't matter if it's considered the definitive version and the best translation currently as people are still pivoting to the older ones until the newer ones gain enough prestige and good word that people pivot to using them. It kills the motivation to do a translation patch in the womb for people less motivated, or people who are more extrinsically motivated from the feeling of having their work released to wider appeal that a minor niche.

>>751481338
Because people generally don't want to spend hundreds if not thousands of hours they could be using to enjoy stuff on their own time to get a dozen people to play their patch at best. They would like hundreds if not thousands of eyeballs on them because of the amount of time they had to spend doing this for the sake of others. Yes, in an idea world just one person enjoying it would be enough, but come on now, be real. You have to be unbelievably altruistic and motivated to release a 4 year translation to the excitement of like five people. May I point you to the Telefang translation again where these guys were translating the game to bring more people into their fanbase because they thought the game was cool and were devastated when it really didn't go as well as they thought? Now Telefang 2 is mostly dead in the water.

>>751474570
It's a bit stiff but overall good. Alpha 2 feels unfinished in comparison. The ones I played were both done by Gyosuke. Alpha 3 by Kapt is the best one I've played so far, it's felt as good as many of the older fan translation patches.

>>751473665
Tripfag with a shit opinion, must be a day that ends in y.

>>751473665
>The problem is that they completely kill anyone trying to do a non-AI translation because of it now existing
Nigger, Sol Trigger TL was unfinished for over a decade and is hardly the only case.