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my guild all quit
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Join a /wowfg/ guild
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>>751515121
>my guild all quit
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>>751515121
subhuman millennials realized they can't relive their childhood, for the millionth time.
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>>751515121
It's okay if the game is good, bro, you aren't any less if the game is good. It's going to be okay.
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>>751515157
id rather snap my spine XD
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>>751515121
They didn't actually add any new content, it's just Classic with even more fucked layering and "better" graphics
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>>751515121
>nost mogged classic
>ascension mogged sod
>turtle mogged forever
imagine being a loyal blizzfag that skips all the fun pservers just to get the slop blizz throws you at a premium
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>>751515121
95% of the content is the same old Classic that everyone has been through multiple times, except now all the classes are fucked up and sharding makes the world feel disjointed.
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My guild is "going into hibernation" this patch and playing Forever instead. I hate Troll patches so much.
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>>751515121
Perchance you are awful to play with
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>>751515121
vanilla is le boring
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>>751515651
wait, what? dungeon exp was already pretty shit, what the fuck.
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7 days were enough to realize that a small makeup doesn't turn a boring and obsolete game into a fun experience. (thanks anon for the code)
Fomo and streamer hype are already fading. by lvl 30~40, most players quit
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>>751515790
nostalrius is the entire reason this fad took off, the other private servers are irrelevant slop. the official releases mog them all especially forever which is by far the best iteration of classic
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>>751518552
most insane shill post I've seen in a while
>nost had massive 50v50 wpvp battles all day
>official servers struggle with 10v10
>layering out the ass
>endless bots/rmt
>worse balance changes everywhere
you have to just be a mindbroken blizzie to possibly think their iterations have been better
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>>751515121
>pve server
>every 40+ zone is inundated with horde
huh
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>>751516382
Mob XP is legitimately 25% of what it used to be, so noone will do dungeons for the second time.
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>>751518941
the game is like 90% horde
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>>751518810
>>official servers struggle with 10v10
it's incredible how you can say shit like that you do realize we all have played the game, if you can't do a fucking BG without lag it's time to get a new PC you literal faggot. Layering was necessary for the launch it has been toned back. There was bots and rmt in Nost, and I don't interact with that anyways. Forever is superior in every way it's just a better version of classic visually and gameplay-wise, the dungeons they added mogs 90% of the dungeons in the base game. Nost is the only private server worth talking about but it's long dead it was exactly the same as official 2019 classic except it closed and had a fraction of the popularity.
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>>751515121
whats the most braindead pvp class?
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Me and my friends are having a blast. Playing everyday and someone's always on discord. It's pretty nice although I'm lvl 30 and did all the quests in thousand needless yesterday and only gained 1 lvl. Lvling is gonna get real slow from now on but I don't mind.
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>>751518810
That doesn't sound right to me at all. SoD p1 could easily handle up to 200 players on each side during the Ashenvale event before layering would move entire raids. Are you sure you're not exaggerating details here?
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>>751519328
Hunter. Not even a question.
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>>751515790
>ascension mogged sod
Didn't play SoD because fuck Blizzard but as much as I hate Blizzard you can't convince me that faggot Dutch and his tardmonger goons made anything good post 2k21, fuck that gay nigger.
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>>751515790
Turtle legit has better dungeons than Forever. Anyone saying otherwise didn't play Turtle or feels the need to justify their subscription. Im playing Forever and having a blast tm but yeah the dungeons are nothing special. Im surprised people overrate them so much but i believe it's just "new shiny thing in classic!" doing that.

I wish Blizzard just fucking stole dragonmaw, that was fucking great.
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so are they going to keep supporting this like the name implies or is going to be abandoned like SoD
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what level of asshurt are the discorders at they have to seethe about WoW all day
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>>751519204
>this gorilla really told anon to get a new PC to remedy servers being utter shit
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>>751520028
it will turn into another sod
everyone thinks they want classic+ but they actually don't
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>>751519974
Their open dungeon concept was fucking gay and led to people trying to fight the least amount possible just to rush through everything
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>>751515121
They were not the target audience
And that's ok
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I'm now convinced these threads are some sort of rockstar propaganda trying to convince people not to get into wow forever before the launch of GTA VI. Either that are jealous poor people that can't afford to play and obviously really want to, considering how often these threads come up

Tons of people are playing. I've played multiple servers and both were lively and busy. Most people I've talked to are having a blast and don't intend to stop anytime soon. In several months sure, maybe there may be a dip, but for now it's great.
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>>751520028
in 6 months the playerbase will be nothing and theyll turn the servers off in a year like all of these game modes
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>>751520448
I have to admit to blizz they are catching W's recently with forever and forsaken kingdom
Is it perfect? No, but I didn't need to buy a single thing to be eligible to play on wow forever, just an active sub

The meme about oh paywalled races! All new races have always been paywalled, you always needed to have purchased the expansion the new race is tied too in order to be allowed to make one
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>>751520514
Atleast 6 more months of fun then before I disappear from blizz ecosystem forever (hehehe) cause lord knows classic and retail can't offer what forever does
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>>751515121
you lost faggot
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>>751520056
This level.
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>>751515121
>what went wrong
nothing, ffxiv lost
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>Get game early because hypetard, find out all the fun shit is changed or nerfed. Classes shit up with retail design but also missing qol shit to reducw unneeded bullshit. Find out certain rogue bug still exists while shadowmeld was gutted.
>ask for refund, denied.
>call bank, issue chargeback, get told it will forcibly lock CC for 1 week and stop all transactions from company affected for 6 months
>good. fuck em.
>go back to playing Sulfur.
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>>751517872
What site for WoWF-mods?
Is Darknest still a thing?
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Ready to start doing your weeklies, foreversisters?
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>>751515121
People expected a more slow-paced version of retail and instead discover how mind-numbing classic actually is. The whole game is the leveling experience. After that you get completely braindead PVE content or PVP in WoW's most basic form.
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>>751517872
My friend was glazing it like crazy a month before release. Have to ask him now if he quit already kek.
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>>751520597
you will be hopping on the bandwagon when they announce their next wow project because you cant handle fomo
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>>751521252
>PVP in WoW's most basic form

You mean the best WoW's PVP has ever been?
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So what do the people that already invested time into Wow Classic do? Are those servers completely empty?
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>>751521646
which version? there are like 5 old versions of wow classic that are a graveyard now, with forever soon to join them
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>>751521646
All WoW characters eventually die by either ending up on a ghost server or being transferred to a shit expansion you don't want to play
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>>751515121
jeetbot farm has switched off
zoomers went on other current_thing
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>>751515651
You still get like 50% of a level for a dungeon clear and then at least another 50% from quests
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I'm actually having fun, I didn't start until two days ago because I thought it was just another soulless cashgrab but after seeing everyone mad and seething with the game I decided to try it
I haven't played since wotlk because I didn't like the tone shift in cata
it's a slow burn and I don't have to worry about minmaxxing to compete with nolifers
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The problem I see is two-fold.
Blizzard like libtards pretend they don't understand what the community wants (shit that would fit in with WC3/Vanilla aesthetic and feel) and slowly drift the game to retail-lite because that is all they how to do.
The community craves changes that would make the game feel fresh (playing feels like a. new experience) but are afraid that these changes would make the game not feel like Classic anymore (the experience of playing is familiar), so they are stuck in superposition of wanting changes that change nothing but in a good way

They really, really should have been conservative with the launch release being purely stuff they cut out from the game in 2003 and 2004 because they didn't have the time or resources, and then ad the funny blue elves later.
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>>751521838
>I didn't like the tone shift in cata

I am not even going to attempt to understand or question whatever egregiously retarded perception you had for Wrath.
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It's not fun.
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I'm enjoying it, frustrated at how hard it is to keep up though. I feel like I've been playing a lot and I'm only level 25, and now I'm in contested zones getting ganked by 35+
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>just slaps copy pasted Dalaran right over the old Dalaran
>now it's like 5 feet away from Alterac

They really did a good job at making the Vanilla world look small
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>>751521252
MC isnt even out can the FUD posters chill out
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>>751521726
I doubt it, they are probably going to consolidate most of their classic efforts into forever now, as well as a portion of retail. I don't even think we get WoTLK anniversary or WoD classic at this point
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>>751522253
not they they just don't understand it (they don't) they just want to resell it to zoomers with shiny new graphics

they understand that zoomers are following the "we're going back" trend (even if they don't know shit about the game and just repeat what millennial streamers say) so they boughted off all the key streamers to make them shill about "this is it"

it even got funny when a youtuber is shitting on the forever trailer for how shitty and disney-happy it is (not vanilla-like at all), then the blizzmoney kicked in and his next video is a complete 180 reversal of how great the game is and "were going back bros"
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I have yet to get flamed in a dungeon and have seen a lot of new players figuring things out and people being nice about it, so it's better than Era or anniversary at the very least
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>>751515121
>daily turtletranny seethe and cope thread
you lost lmao
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>>751515121
The balance is totally fucked and layering is incredibly retarded
I doubt anyone from your guild quit though
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>/v/ says it's dead
>log on
>300+ just in tirisfal glades
>actually having trouble tagging mobs well away from the starting zone
why do you guys lie all the time?
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>>751522935
did you not experience this exact thing in 2019 when classic launched? retailbabs did nothing but spam threads nonstop, daily, posting FUD over classic

retailbabs are mentally ill
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Any particular reason why Americans all play horde?
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>>751523054
I'll play alliance when they add Draenei.
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>>751523054
>Why do Americans all flock to the most popular thing

Because normies are gonna norm.
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>game is dead
>but not dead enough to where any place you go in the game to quest isn't flooded with people regardless of layer
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>>751515121
WoW is a played out boring tab targetting garbage mmorpg, it peaked back with the real WOTLK and died with Cataclysm. Anyone who plays WoW now is mentally ill or/and has extremely bad taste gaming.

The MMO genre can only be "revived" by a new and innovative MMO with full action combat system and other MMO systems. Only RuneScape 4 and Riot MMO have the potential to be good, time will tell.

Get better taste retarded OP, here I will help you, pic related, these are the future games you should buy and play so your garbage taste improves,
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My only issue is the game crawls to a halt around level 33-35. The quests don't reward enough XP to level you up to the next set of quests, and they end up being way to high level for you unless you grind mobs or dungeons to catch up.
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>>751515121
Listen closely, here's what you do to save the game:
Go to any FFXIV thread and say that wow forever is better.
It will make you feel better and forget that you fell for the same skinner box for the third or fourth time.
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this is 2 minutes ago in Brill off-peak times
how is this dead?
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>>751523287
show the chat
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>>751515651
They really should add shadow groups like other MMOs, it's retarded that their only solution was making everything be in a hyperspawn.
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>>751523234
>or dungeons to catch up
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>>751523287
Woow, look at all those people you won't talk to and who won't talk to you!
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Why does this game feel like it's in early access
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>>751523234
Never came close to running out of quests on alli and horde have an even better run of quests. The later Redridge quests, Wetlands and Duskwood were all more than enough (skipped Darkshore entirely as well as Ashenvale) than the Stockades quests, the Dalaran quests, the Wetlands Excavation quests and the BFD quests were more than enough to get over 30.
Than I had Shimmering Flats, STV, Desolace, Dustwallow and Hillsbrad+Alterac as well as SM, Drowned City and RFD.
I didn't even get to most of the Desolace quests until I hit 40 and then I had Badlands, Riverglades (which was around 4 levels alone) and most of the lower STV quests left. Skipped Hinterlands, Krol'dok and Uldaman were each another level each more or less and I'm only just starting Tanaris at 48. Plenty more zones at 50 as well as two of the new dungeons plus Mara, ZF, ST, BRD etc.
Never had to grind or do dungeons beyond the quests. I think people like you are genuinely retarded.
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>>751523332
You get way more xp on the first run then in classic though. You'd probably have to do 3 runs to be negative compared to classic.
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are there people who play mmo's solo? i played wow for about 15 minutes, 10 years ago, before getting bored and refunding. I have no friends and a lot of time so I wonder if its worth. I like that it has a pet class anyway.
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>me on my level 53 orc hunter raping every level 19 dadgamer in Redridge

Enjoy your PeeVeePee server LOL WIFE AGGRO
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>>751524993
no you wont, pvetroony
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>>751523287
it's not a botted valve game so it's dead.
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>>751515121
I got to level 30. I enjoy all the new weather effects and the newer quests and dungeons are nice but at the end of the day it's still the say fucking shit. I did this 20 years ago. I'm good but I'm sure lots of people will have fun.
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>>751523550
As far as I've got over thousand needles and arathi highlands, every mob in the game has an hyperspawn, I literally joined a group yesterday for an elite quest, they killed the mob before a couple of us could reach it and like 30 seconds after it'd already spawned like 30 meters from us.
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>>751515157
What server class race?
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>>751523450
That's not a Horde zone.
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>>751523234
Do dungeons for the dungeon quests and the gear. They increased dungeon xp in a hotfix patch by +50%. Its very much worth it imo.
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>>751523978
i have so many quests i have to constantly filter out ones ill try and pick up later 40 is not enough let us expand the cap let us horizontally progress you sons of bitches
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>>751523234
isn't there a new zone around that level?
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>>751523234
Also install questie addon. It will show you quests you can accept. This way you most likely wont run out of quests, in fact I have too many quests and might need to skip some.
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>>751524993
>Grrr! I'm a big bad boy, paypigging to blizzard! GRRR!!
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>>751515121
the free ride ended so thirdworlder poors all quit. expect the new FotM private server to get heavily shilled soon
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It is fun for me personally as a rogue. I also made a warrior but it felt too slow paced. I understand that it isnt fun for people who played classic or sod, but I did neither so for me it is lile new content + polished graphics. Battlegrounds have also been fun if you can ignore the suckers and the negativity of some few.

I also noticed that alliance players are more kind on average than horde players but horde is better in pve content.
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>>751515121
My mate has been shilling this hard to me, even offered to pay my sub, and I told him I'll buy it my damn self the second they stop the 2 faction bullshit.
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I'm having fun. Got a Troll Hunter at 25 and a Tauren Warrior that hit 16 the other day, so I'm fully protectionpilled now.
Sex with Whitemane btw.
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>>751520448
BAHAHAHAHA

Blizzfags are utterly delusional
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>>751525631
One more thing. Low level battlegrounds are alliance favoured. They usually have better team play. I tried my best and we wonned but only with heavy casualties and alliance being stupid enough to overextend. I was just too good in that game. They should have won by all parameters except for me being the joker card.
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Mmos aren't fun when everyone is communicating in their personal discords
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>>751515121
same shit, different name.
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>>751515121
My guild is blasting
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>>751520448
I don't want to play either game, retard. I think Forever is shit.
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>>751523054
because the only cool aliance race are dwarves
meanwhile the horde has
>green niggas
>haitian niggas
>dead niggas
>cow niggas
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>>751525913
so start to talk with people
>REEEEEEEEEE EVERYBODY IS IN DISCORDS
>doesn't talk to anybody
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dead tranny game
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World of Discord
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>>751526437
oh yeah? explain this
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>>751526395
Discords are gay fucking hugboxes with terminally online cockroaches inside.
It's more fun when a mix of different people are sharing the same place.
The normal people, flirty people, funny people, insane people, schizos. Etc etc
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>>751526312
>My nigger
>The nigger
>This nigger
>Niggerlicious
>What a nigger
>Lets get this nigger
And many other variants

Its surprisingly versatile and has acted as a kind of pressure valve, inspiration. The exigency of the forbidden
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>>751520192
as if people didnt always b line it to bosses and do skips in classic? even still people are skipping easy packs to pull because of the reduced xp not the dungeon layout
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>here's a quest to kill 6 dinglewoopers
>btw only 4 dinglewoopers spawn in the dungeon
>hope you're okay with running it again despite the reduced quest xp!
i fucking hate forever dungeon quest design
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>censored breast physics
>no High Elves
>no Blood Elves
>no Goblins
>no Worgen
>no Ogres
>no Draenei
>no Dryad
>no Dwarf mage
>no Dwarf warlock
>no Gnome hunter
>no Human hunter
>no Orc mage
>no Tauren priest
>no Troll warlock
>no Undead hunter
>no Dark Iron Clan, Wildhammer Clan, Demon Hunter, Dark Ranger, Blackrock Clan, Burning Blade, Dreadskull Clan, Grim Totem skins
>no Ursan Heights
>no Farstrider Lodge
>no Forest Song
>no Thalanaar
>no Dun Agrath
>no Hawk's Vigil
>no Sorrowguard Keep
>no Forlorn Summit
>no Karfang Hold
>no Alah'Thalas
>no Blackstone Island
>no Thalassian Highlands
>no Northwind
>no Balor
>no Grim Reaches
>no Gilneas
>no Icepoint Rock
>no Lapidis Isle
>no Gillijim's Isle
>no Moonwhisper Coast
>no Tel'Abim
>no Scarlet Enclave
>no Hyjal
>no Jared Voss
>no Masterpiece Harvester
>no Zandara Windhoof
>no Vangros
>no Velthelaxx the Defiler
>no Duke Dreadmoore
>no Brother Wystan
>no Rotthorn
>no Armory Quartermaster Daghelm
>no Death Prophet Rakameg
>no Zel'jeb the Ancient
>no Champion Razjal the Quick
>no Frostmane Hollow
>no Dragonmaw Retreat
>no Windhorn Canyon
>no Crescent Grove
>no Stormwrought Ruins
>no Gilneas City
>no Hateforge Quarry
>no Black Morass
>no Timbermaw Hold
>no Stormwind Vault
>no Emerald Sanctum
>no Karazhan Crypt
>no Tower of Karazhan
>no Moonwhisper Coast
>no Amberhorn Caverns
>no Eversong Wastes
>no Zul'Aman
>no Ruins of Silvermoon
>no Grim Batol
>no new epics
>no new crafting epics
>no Sorcerer-Thane Thaurissan
>no Broodcommander Axelus
>no Ezzel Darkbrewer
>no Cla'ckora
>no Concavius
>no Dark Reaver of Karazhan
>no Ostarius of Uldum
>no Nerubian Overseer
>no Father Lycan
>no Steamwheedle Blood Ring
>no Draenei Exiles
>no Dalaran
>no Earthen Ring
>no Silvermoon Remnant
>no Durotar Labor Union
>no Kul Tiras
>no Hardmode raids
>no Hardcore
>no Traveling Craftmaser
>no Slow and Steady
>no Level One Lunatic
>no Boarding Adventure
>no War Mode
>no Exhaustion
>no Vagrant's Endeavor
>no Trial of Heroism
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>>751515345
>"Guys maybe this time it'll be different.
>It was not.
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>>751515121
my guild's all still playing, hell most of them are playing more than me, i'm behind the curve on leveling. one dude's already nearly 60 (he was our top dps in mists)

>>751515730
hall of thanes was new
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>>751526812
shut the fuck up avatarfag turdletroon
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>>751526870
>some forgettable 10 minute lvl 11 dungeon was new
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>>751526812
>no Draenei
This along with no cool looking armor is what's keeping me from resubscribing. The only temptation there is left is twinking for BGs but I hear there are so major class changes and that might affect things.
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>>751526812
>no high elves
stopped reading
are alliance fags the most pathetic group of cry babies in vidya history?
it's been 20 fucking years and your balding neck beard ass is still upset over Legolas joining up with the bad guy faction
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>>751526994
presumably the later ones are longer, rfc and deadmines aren't exactly long either
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>>751515121
next updates to save the game are :
>raids
>raids
>raids

I was promised a journey. But I am obviously not the target audiance.
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>>751527134
>presumably the later ones are longer,
they aren't, they're shorter
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>>751527132
I don't think most of the idiots still crying for high elves even remember that they are now blood elves.
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>>751527339
Is there LFR for Forever? Just like vanilla decades ago, I have no plans to raid.
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>>751515121
im rerolling pve and wait for a merge and warmode, it WILL happen, your name already exists ruleset wide, they plan on doing it eventually
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pve niggers are so pathetic
ROLL ALLIANCE ON PVP SO HORDECHADS CAN RAPE AND GAPE YOU
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>>751527441
they are, drowned city is great
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I never touched 2019 classic or SoD or anniversary, so this is my first time (besides the original 2005 launch)
slowly leveling Horde Warlock on PvP, pretty fun
the slowness and the leveling IS the "fun", same as it was originally
+ new graphics and built-in addons

I will definitely get to 60, but wont raid in any guild. Might do BGs, might quit/wait for Forever expansions
or maybe do Alliance Paladin on a PvE server

but I would probably not play Forever, if I already leveled to 60 on 2019 classic/anniversary
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>>751526437
>>751526473
nta but im on EU and my chat is extremely right wing and full man jokes, i love it. its like everyone who got filtered by retails tranny shit found a new home in forever, it really feels like old times
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>Normal blessings now have a 1 hour duration and barely cost any mana
>Bless everyone I run past
>Shitton of people thank me.
Feels great.
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>>751528305
>>Bless everyone I run past
yeah I get random buffs in Barrens too all time
its nice
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>>751528305
it was the thing since 2004, zoomy
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>>751528295
I'm in Germany and while the chat is not right wing everyone is so incredible nice and polite. Already made a few friendos that help me as a noob. And in crowded areas I even notice that they don't steal mobs.

It's actually what keeps me playing despite already feel a bit burned out (at lvl 20)
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>>751516382
They've bumped up questing xp a lot.
You get like a level your first dungeon run, and you still want to play some of them multiple times for gear.
Just means there's more people out in the maps rather than sitting in instances all the time, imo a good change even if it's sometimes fucked up by layering.

Also i'd guess he's just been in Westfall because one of the harvester quests there is the first very gay one with the mob-tagging and drops.
There's a couple of quests they really ought to bump up the spawn/drop rates on like those but it's relatively few all considered. I can think of like 5 off the top of my head that were annoying and 1 I dropped.
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how is the ~H/A ratio on EU PvP server?
obv there is more Horde, but how much more?
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>>751528550
generally speaking i would say 60/40, but we have a lot of langues to pick from so the balance of the the different layers may vary a lot more than on US
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Wonder if Forever will have "pug raids" for randos/newbs
At least for the easier ones like MC

or is that not feasible?
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>>751528550
80/20, all of Alliance have quit and rolled on PvE or RP-PvP where alliance has the majority.
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>>751519328
Rogue. You can kill a player before they even react to being attacked.
Someone said hunter which is good because of the amount of useful stuff it has, but the moment anyone actually targets you or is in melee you are dead, its very reliant on spacing.
>close gap with hunter
>cant use 90% of your damage skills
>close gap with rogue
>thats exactly where they want to be
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>>751515121
Honestly because it's basically just Classic with a few more quests and a few extra boring dungeons
Got a warrior up to 30, one new spell from tbc, victory rush, and then one new spell from spec dismounting strike. Other than that there are basically no changes to warrior, a few of the talents have been made a bit different, for example you just use weapon master for every weapon now in arms, when you used to specifically have to pick axes, swords or maces but there's no major differences
Got a warlock to level 10, no new spells even looking up to 60, the talents have changed a little but not much.
So why bother? It's classic with 1% changed, same zones, same boring quests, same dungeons over and over again but this time a paladin can kill 4 mobs at once
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>>751515121
The whoole reason I even picked this up is because its a "finished" game where I can leave and come back whenever and not be so far behind in content that when I come back all my time playing is just catching up.
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>>751528550
60/40 or thereabouts.
Due to layering it's not a huge issue though. You can go to STV and sometimes you get ganked to hell and back and sometimes it's chill and you can get your quests done without dying.
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>>751523181
>picrel
Holy fucking bait.
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>>751521819
>You still get like 50% of a level for a dungeon clear
This is completely fucking false, you're lucky to get 3 bars.
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>>751528749
Way I hear Prot Warrior is busted good now.
They made changes to lots of classes.
Hunter got buffed out the ass for some reason.
Rogue is no longer as annoying to level due to early shank.
Mages got very nice options for both arcane and frost. (arcane is stronger)
Paladins are busted good.
Priests are much better than expected.
I don't know about Warlocks but I suspect they're good by how little they're complaining.
Shamans were OP until they got hit with the nerfbat a bit harder than they deserved so now they're about where they were in classic.
Druids got fucked over before it even began but you still see lots of them though.
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>>751529301
Depends on the dungeon I suppose. I only paid attention while doing WC and I got about half a level
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im a casual wow player but what was the point of the skyborne elf race (i mean other than milking idiots of money)?

like...they could have just done blood evles for the horde and high elves for the alliance and had the split work like that. instead they took the blood elves, made em gay and blue, made them a cross faction race...i dont really get it.
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>>751515121
Added (pretty much) blodd elves. Similar to the start of retail. Even though nobody wanted it.
Added RMT.

I think it could have worked otherwise.
The could have been more bold on gameplay stuff maybe.
Maybe forbid water breathing in the under water dungeon.
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>>751525780
Holy shit you're retarded.
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>>751520448
Hmm, yes, if not for Rockstar and poor people everyone would play this 20 year old grinding simulator for autists.
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>>751523234
Grinding mobs is a waste of time. There's enough quests so long as you check your 35 areas and get dungeon quests for a one-time run.
Once you hit 36-38 go to Riverglades. The place has quests out the ass.
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>>751526395
>talk to people
>they don't respond
It's that easy.
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>>751526812
But there are Draenei. Just go to the Swamp of Sorrows. :)
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I'm interested in seeing what it's like in a few years but right now the changes from classic feel too conservative.
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>>751515121
>was just a gta6/pexile/xiv waiting room
Yes we told you this all along
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>>751521209
It's still a thing but it's not really relevant anymore. The WoW graphics modding scene is dead because Blizzard has repeatedly made it more and more of a pain in the ass to do so all the modders moved over to XIV where you can do basically anything you want because SE doesn't do shit to prevent modding.
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>>751515121
The audience who wanted this were classicfags, and they weren't that many. Blizzard tried to atract retoilet players with many features but only ended up pissing off many classic players. It's a game for no one.
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>>751529667
even though blizzard fucked up by adding sky elves, i really do hope they add OG dranei and OG high elves to alliance/horde

it probably wont ever happen, but it would be kino
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>>751529667
>unfag the game
>re-fag it with the skyborne elves

they almost understood the assignment
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>>751526437
>tranny game
Definitively not.

Though, as everyone expected, the Skyborne are basically the tranny race lmao
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>>751529982
If you aren't playing a dwarf male or a tauren male you're either a tranny or a zesty buck.
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>>751529982
>Skyborne at the top
>Paladin down the bottom
I call bullshit
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>>751529667
>wow forever will be dead by the time they decide to add draenei
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>>751530271
Prot Pally has no Avenger's Shield and Ret was never good until BC. I can totally see it.
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>>751529832
>OG draenei
too much effort for something that will shut down in 2 years
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>>751530271
Skyborne can't be paladins.

Also, they aren't being ranked by population numbers, but by percentage of female characters, most female characters by proportion at the top, least female characters by proportion at the bottom. Paladin players don't roll female, apparently.
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>>751530271
the new elfs cant be paladin. negative correlation. makes sense
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>>751529982
i'm tempted to play a female dwarf warrior now
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>>751530271
>>751530385
Here's the actual race/class popularity, if you were curious.
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>>751528408
Blessings used to last 5 minutes retard-kun.
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>>751529667
>retcon
Whoever made this is retarded.
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i wish i could play gnome druid
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>>751523450
> go outside in any city
>lots of people everywhere
>wooow look at all the people I won't talk to
>city is dead
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I didnt even bother to try it. I read before hand, that end gear would still be locked behind raids. As all of the other crappy blizz versions.
I cant raid again, i have fucking raid fatigue. It drains all your energy. Ascension atleast made it possible to get good gear from 5 man.
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>>751530456
You're telling me that hunter is almost as popular as the reworked and fixed paladin with both factions being able to play it? Yeah I don't know about that nigga.
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>>751530838
Did they really rework and fix paladins enough to not make people fall asleep at their keyboards? Somehow I doubt it.
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>>751530838
>Top tier dps
>Easy to level
>Don't have to worry about tanking or healing
>Crazy scaling but does well without any gear
Hunter was popular even when it was dog shit in classic. Of course it's popular now.
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>>751530885
It's the most popular class for a reason
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HC fresh when? fuck retoilet 2.0
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>>751530948
Man, it's bots.
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>>751530838
Hunter is by far the most capable class when it comes to killing higher level mobs which has a lot of value when a vast majority of the playerbase is still hovering around 40. It's very easy to play and extremely effective.
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>>751531070
And hunter is by far the most capable class wen it comes to botting in wow classic.
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>retail guild on Alliance PvE
>retard friends that I play friendslop with who will quit in a month playing on Horde PvP
>can't make a character on Horde PvP
I'm actually really glad Blizzard gave me a perfect excuse to not waste my time with that friend group. I heard the server is imbalanced towards Horde but every time I join their voice chat, they're apparently getting raped by 10+ Alliance on repeat.
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>it... it's all bots! it's all bots i tell you!
>my precious undead paladin must win! it must! my entire identity is tied to a completely meaningless unofficial census!
Jesus fucking christ you're mentally ill just shut the fuck up.
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There are no bots in classic, Blizzard bans them all
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>>751516382
What the fuck? Why did the tranny nigger delete my post?
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>>751528539
>Also i'd guess he's just been in Westfall because one of the harvester quests there is the first very gay one with the mob-tagging and drops.
Nigger, have you been to Redridge? Every Gnoll, vulture, spider, murloc, and orc is camped.
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>>751521518
>You mean the best WoW's PVP has ever been?
Enjoy your 15 second CC chains with no diminishing returns. Absolute dogshit pvp experience in classic wtf are you smoking bro
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>/v/ doomers can't cope with the massive success
Delicious asshurt.
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>>751531714
Yeah, but arena exposed all the classic PvP """chads""" as shitters so it's bad unskilled pillar humping despite being the most straightforward fair version of PvP imaginable.
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>Classic plus
>Look inside
>Retail minus
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>>751515121
I love how they "improved" the graphics by adding hd models, fog, bloom, some obnoxious lighting effects and increased draw distance. The same treatment that GTA DE received.
Low effort crap.
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>>751529667
>no futa horsecock wife
Literally unplayable, refunded

>>751529848
At first I also thought the Smurf elves were stupid but after playing I realised it’s actually kinda based because you can tell instantly who’s a enormous faggot
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>>751523450
Sounds like a you problem anon.
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>>751528305
>roll a human paladin
>bless randoms with class appropriate blessings
>intervene with heals, bubbles, stun blocks and pulling aggro when players are getting killed or pulled to many enemies
>revive randoms and group up and help them finish hard quest
>type paladin slogans after ressing
I’m not even on an RP server it’s just fun to play the role of the class
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Haven't played since Cata and I'm having Fun just ran through Stranglethorn to rank up my fishing.
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I miss being 15 and sociable so I could actually enjoy these games.
Nowadays I get a small existential crisis of what the fuck am I doing with my life each time I get asked to kill 15 bats and gather 12 ballsacks, while reading kids recruiting each other into an e-celeb grooming server in the chat.
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>>751519328
I guess paladin. You just have to space your panic buttons instead of pressing everything at once.
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>>751533160
>be me, warrior
>this time I will try to play tank
>queue halls
>random hunter instapulls
>I lose oversight 3 seconds into the pull
>Mage be blasting
>the pala is also sort of tanking
>my priest just stares at me while I am desperately trying to return to my normal action bar after accidentally pressing Shift 1 and not CTRL 1 for sth.
>just looks at me while I am trying to find my taunt button
>wrong stance
10/10 experience, gonna tank deadmines tonight.
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>>751533917
Yea playing it like it isnt a job is why Im enjoying it. Knowing there isnt going to be some content later that I have to keep up with is why I am actually enjoying it.
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>>751519328
Retardin pala, it's not even close especially now
>>751528738
Genuinely clueless, you sound like a retardditor that has never made it past level 30
>hurr durr melee class wants to melee???
lol?
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>>751526812
tl;dr:
>no retail
That's what we are here for.
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Are these threads just the same 5 turtletrannies jerking off about their shitty vibecoded private server?
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>>751537238
Bobby Kotick (or whatever jew CEO Activision has currently) thanks you for keeping his yacht running
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>>751515121
>blizzdrones swearing that this time blizzard will not fuck them over
>*gets fucked and scammed again and the game dies after barely 2 months*
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>>751537416
>>751537491
>please give your money to third world criminals instead
kek
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I'm having fun.
There are lots of little changes that I'm seeing that I like. More items with interesting stats. New talents that fix issues. No crazy changes to what wasn't broken.
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>>751534961
Read the post nigger, the post was "braindead" specifically. Rogue can instigate every fight from stealth and rely on burst damage to kill an enemy before they even hit back. Just spec to agility/crit and do your rotation. There is almost no effort involved as you are relying on killing everything so fast you dont have to do a bunch of footwork and cooldowns.
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>>751537725
Then there is Boiled Clams.
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>>751515121
>[FELL FOR IT AGAIN GALACTIC CHAMPIONS]
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Nice game you've got here
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>>751529518
No, you are retarded if you think the splitting everything between alliance and horde was a good idea.
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>>751538756
Fun fact you can sit at opposite factions campfires and gain the buffs, tonight I will test if you can grief them by putting 3 low level improvements.
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>>751538964
this right here is the only reason to play this re re re release of a game.
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>>751539071
its pretty funny and leads to lols
so theyre gonna remove it soon I guess
would be funny at raid entrances
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>>751515790
All of those shit servers are dead, forever won shenna and Dutch lost
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>>751515121
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>>751538610
get pwned, zugger
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>>751523253
If you're calling RPGs skinner boxes it's time to just quit. You clearly have no capacity to enjoy games and just cynically categorize the system by whatever element provides the most snark. 'grind' is similar and I get the feeling people casually throwing the term out there have no idea that they're training their brain to be adversarial to their own hobby.
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>>751523253
Fanfest didn't go well I take it?
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>>751538610
>You want to play horde in the game you paid for?
>NOOOOO we need an EXACT 50/50 split so the alliance doesnt lose in world pvp!
>even though their pvp racials are superior across the board and they win every single BG and 98% of AV games!

Why is alliance so babied by blizz?
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>>751542084
forever is a skinner box its a fucking fourth re release of a game with barely anything new its fine if you like the game but lets not pretend its not a cash grab.
> grind' is similar
oh your just a retarded esl
i accept your consession.
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I play both versions of the game and retailfags seem to seethe way more over this than classicfags seethe over retail. I don't get it, retail isn't going anywhere and Forever isn't stealing retail sources since the new shit is minimal and also a new team.
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>>751542563
>oh your just a retarded esl
I just hope English is not the only language you know because damn,
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>>751515730
I'm level 30 and I've already done 2 new dungeons.
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>>751515121
Spending 15 hours having 3 abilities and running around at fat kid speed turns out to not be very fun
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>>751542535
Why are hordefags such crybaby autist faggots?
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>>751542535
>they win every single BG and 98% of AV games
So... you're just admitting that your shit and need a numerical advantage to win fucking anything?
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>>751529439
Skyborne were clearly last minute to catch the eastern/normie market. They will release belfs/helfs later to make even more money.
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>>751523287
For the uninitiated /v/iggers out there:
this is an undead starting zone. having "that many" players in there is quite literally expected, hell i have seen same amount players in starting zone on some private servers 2 months after the launch, said servers were hard capped at 5k population, just to tell you how truly dead blizzard shit is.
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>>751523054
Network effect. Your friends play horde so when you start playing you play with them. Over time players start to play on the side with more players because it offers the better experience. When a new version of WoW comes out you keep playing the same faction.
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>>751529982
>local man playing dorf female shaman
>because fuck you having that male tauren 2 hand special animation feels great
Also tiddies but you know.

Shame if they introduce Goblins though, then I gotta swap.
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>>751544331
Why couldn't this happen with alliance?
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>>751527339
>retarded subhuman can't read
Shocker. There's quite a few words on there that have nothing to do with raids, try again.
>>751527825
Not raiding was retarded 20 years ago and it's retarded now. Just fucking raid you idiot.
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>>751531574
Redridge is after Westfall.
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>>751515157
yeah bro get groomed
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>>751538756
Yes, it was, and it is. Having the entire playerbase in one faction is retarded.
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>>751538756
Go back to XIV or GW2 you dumbass tranny.
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>>751543431
It is fun if you're not a subhuman zoomer.
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Wait, did blast havers actually win?
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Literally every zone is packed, Forever is a smash hit.
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>>751515790
>ascension mogged
>turtle mogged
Genuinely kill yourself, shill.
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>>751529982
>female
>male
What game is this from? Because it's definitely not Forever because last time I checked they had types instead of genders.
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>>751546162
and people shit talk blizz selling mounts lol.
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How the hell do I move from a dead layer to an alive one. I barely see a handful of folks around me. Everytime I join the group finder for a dungeon I get layered and the game feels alive, fighting off Alliance to get to the dungeon but the moment I leave it's gone and the outside is empty. I got a crafter from trade and thought he'd share in my woe since we're in the same chat layer(fuck Blizz, chat layers?)but he was astounded by how dead my layer was when he came.
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>>751546404
Never EVER listen to private server subhumans. They are always hypocritical liars with no souls.
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I never understand what the fuck people want from WoW. This is pretty much what I wanted, classic with updates and the HD models. My orc closes his mouth now.
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>>751546538
Talkative (fun) people get added to the populated layers

Silent creeps go to their own creep layer
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>>751547190
I wish that was the case. I talk to the few folks around, I do light Arpee, and I shitpost in Trade like one should. I yell out groups for quests but it feels like a single player game at times. It's hell doin some of these quests in Hillsbrad without a group
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>>751542535
>I need to go 10v1 because…. I just do okay???
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>>751542865
It sucks leaving retail with all the stupid cosmetic shit I've collected but I can't deal with the godawful story anymore and Mythic+ tailored content. I'm going back to simpler times that's easy on my old boomer brain.
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>>751547483
If you wanted structured PvP where you get assigned a team instead of rolling out with friends why did you join a PvP server.
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This is who actually makes the threads by the way
>>751515121
>>751515790
just endlessly seething private server thirdies (almost certainly south american) who can't afford 15 USD a month (which is more than they make in 6 months)

it's all so tiresome
every thread the same
same posts
same grifter images
so fucking BORING
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>>751523234
I'm level 44 and I have not set foot in a single fucking dungeon and there was only one instance where i killed like 20 coyotes to grind to the next level before going to the next zone

You are not traveling enough
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>>751547518
Yea I do not have the autism for this shit any more, the most interesting thing about Forever to me was that its a finished game, and the "end game" is stuff is just things that work towards upgrading your account, and it involves just doing shit you would do anyway like "play a class to level 25" and "do X, Y and Z dungeons" where it isnt a shopping list of redundant content replaced by newer stuff. I like that if I make a new character my goal isnt to just race to max level so I can start playing the game.
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>>751547779
I unfortunately have autism but not the kind where I can actually do anything impressive or efficient. I don't know how I am going to get the gold to afford mount riding.
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>>751547768
>I'm level 44

nolife
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>>751547947
Do you know where you are?
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>>751547898
Ive just been selling stuff from my professions that I make. I dont know why people are buying it but they are consistently buying it.
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Just completed gahrzilla mallet and got hexxer kill for druid who helped me get up there with 1:00 before shutdown while lagged the fuck out of my balls. My guild aint' quit though, maybe your friends are weak faggots?
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>>751548017
I was trying to level a profession and it scales so fucking bad in comparison to the gathering profession. So I'm just going to sell stuff. The leather armor kits sell for a lot though.
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Did you have enough for your mount by level 40 from questing? I'm only level 33 and I have only 25 gold.
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>>751548153
Yes because I'm a pally and I got my mount for 0 gold.
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>>751548153
For some reason I'm trying to level blacksmithing so I'm broke every level up
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>>751548017
What profession do you have where stuff sells for more than crafting cost? Everything from tailor so far sells at a loss.
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>>751547898
If you can, be selective regarding what new class skills you buy. I played very normally, doing a lot of quests, grinding my professions, running each dungeon once with all quests, selling stuff that dropped on the AH etc. and hit lvl 40 with 110g.
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>>751548269
Some hunter spells seem completely worthless like distracting shot. It's not a hard decision sometimes.
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>>751548153
If you play a class with speed boost spells you should use those. Rocketboots help too. Also engineering has belt upgrades that increase speed too.

For classic anniversary I used aspect of the cheetah until 60. All said and done it wasn't that bad because the speed boost is instant whereas summoning a mount takes 3 seconds. Once I got rank 11 I got the swift pvp mount, although the benefit of that is you'd save around 700g if you got it. Since they switched mount training costs you only save 100g now.
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>>751515121
joined the 41%
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>>751548269
You not buying a few skills isn't really going to add up to 100g.
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>>751548153
When you get closer the rock elementals in badlands drop valuable trash for mount farming, but they are probably going to be crowded since they are needed for quests too
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>>751548240
Leatherworking. Since you kill stuff to skin a lot it means you naturally get a lot of materials and items to sell.
>found a blue ring just killing random deer that was worth 20 silver
>this is ontop of the crafting materials and random shite to sell

Heres an interesting one for you. See since low level cooking requires coyote or clams? Horde has barely any access to that in their territories, look how much it sells for in AH even though its a low level item...go be a poacher in Alliance zones for a bit.
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>>751515790
Oh yea because playing as a classless bitch that can stealth and cast arcane blast and mortal strike and consecrate and flash heal and entangling roots and windfury and whatever other broken spell you want on your bar at the exact same time is “fun”
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>people are selling shit on the auction house for less than it vendors
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>>751527739
High Elves and Blood Elves are the same race, you retard. There are High Elves in Stormwind in Vanilla.
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>>751548153
I wasn't sure if I would have enough so I did what I did back in 2019: Park myself in a spot and farm mobs.
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>>751515121
because of the anti soul gas
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>>751548526
Bots want everyone squeezed out from making money so they get pressured to buy gold. Happened in anniversary too.
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>>751548153
I'm leveling 5 professions so no, it took until level 44
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>>751523054
Sorry but horde races are cooler
.t Australian
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>>751530456
why so few rogues? i've been rolling an assassination rogue and it's been tons of fun, the class quests are awesome
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>>751548827
Probably shouldve told him that if you keep pressing it it lets you in. Its a deterent not a wall.
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Blizzard have less than 6 days to turn this ship around before GTA6 and they are not projected to do anything other than raids
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>>751515730
Going through the undead starting zone made made me triple down on my belief that people who complain about sharding are absolutely insane. How can you go through 20-30 minutes of basic fucking quests because everybody is there killing mobs and the only thing you say is "WOWE SO MANY PEOPLE...THIS SO BUTIFUL". Fucking retarded mouthbreathers. I had to kill spiders for 40 minutes because the drop rates are abyssmal AND there were 30 other retards around. I was praying for the refresh server button to appear just to get rid of them. I played classic and i feel anti nostalgia towards it. Its so fucking bad and i'm struggling to understand what made people so demented towards this shit.
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>>751548986
>they need to make the game into retail or else!
The whole appeal is that its a complete game and ISNT retail. Want more content? make a new character. There is not a fucking chance in hell you have multiple level 60s already, if you do you have a problem and no videogame can or should fix that.
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>I want to play an ugly noshoe mudhut monster on an evil faction instead of a noble ancient race of beautiful elves in an alliance with the races of men and dwarfs united under the holy Light so that we may purge Azeroth of the unclean monsters and aliens
You're subhuman.
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>think about subbing because dwarf shaman sounds cool
>enhance gets mega nerfed
based blizz saving me from myself
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>>751549110
You might be gay.
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>>751548827
He had a week to make a horde character. He's never intended on playing it he is just outrage farming.
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>>751549126
Its still good, it was fucking busted before.
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>>751549181
I'm a lesbian, so I guess my awesomeness and intelligence showed through in my post.
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>>751549110
this isn't your character, i've seen it reposted countless times
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>Priest doesn't get any class quests
>doesn't get really anything interesting or flavorful
Why does Blizzard want Priest to be boring?
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>>751548328
I used the shit out of it in og tbc but I also spent most of my time in heroic 5 mans double ice blocking to keep two mobs cc'd for the duration of pulls. You don't need distracting shot when you can only have one trap active for some retarded reason.
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>>751549251
Being trans doesnt make you a woman.
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>>751515697
>coping with vanilla for the 4th time
lmao
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>>751549126
They didn't really nerf it. You can do double windfury procs by using weapon + totem now. Just less reliant on using spells and int gear.
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>>751549256
Or......I've posted it multiple times?
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>>751548153
I'm level 45 and only just got to 90g but I have alch at 225 and all the secondary proffs up too.
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>>751549126
>mega nerfed
nigger enh was overpowered as fuck and still is
doble winfury is also a thing now
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>>751549297
Traps also can fail and there's no tooltip that says what the chances are or that it can even happen.
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>>751549393
I was making money with alchemy at those levels. Elixir of lesser defense and greater spellblasting were selling very well for whatever reason. Spellblasting in particular netted me quite a bit of gold.
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Friday nights are the only times all my buddies and I can be on at the same time. Not looking forward to doing WC-RFK in one night
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>>751515157
That sounds fucking horrible
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>>751549543
Skip WC. It's shit.
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>down for emergency maintenance on the only night I have off.
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>>751549110
>effeminate
>vain
>addicted to magic

Imagine wanting to be on the normie faction. Sorry, orcs are literally just uncucked white men
>axes
>wolves
>berserkers
>pork diet
>spiritual advisors wearing wolf pelts and casting lightning
>introduce themselves by who their father is
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>>751549662
It'll be up soon
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>>751515157
how?
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>looks up what armor sets are available in classic
>everything looks like shit
I forgot how bad the recolored skinsuits were
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>>751549465
desu I didn't really try. I've been using it to run around with like 4 elixirs going at all times. Now I'm hooked on that 1000 armor for 90 seconds pot to fuck up higher level elites and hordies who try me.
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>>751549632
That's what I was thinking. I know the pathing so it can be done quicker than most runs. But it is such a long fucking dungeon at the start when we can be in sexy ROF/SFK land.
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>>751549760
thats why I just dont wear any armor
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>>751515345
Better a millennial who tries to enjoy things than a zoomer who refuses to.
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>>751549269
They took away Benediction?
Ask Warriors Shamans and Locks if theyd rather trade all their class quests for an epic 60 quest
Wait, shaman get one already
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>>751515730
Layering ruined Classic and will ruin Forever.

>Classic got 800k 60s in 6 years.
Fortnite got a 14M concurrent and a 44M unique daily.

>>751549047
There's no excuse to make almost everybody you meet irrelevant. It's absolutely abysmal.
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>>751549347
oh so you're obsessed, gotcha
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>>751550338
stick to MMO threads schizo jeet
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>>751550359
I got to play the REAL Classic+, sis. You're still chasing something you'll never have.
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>Mulgore
/1 moo
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>>751530948
Hunter was the most broken class in classic. It doesn't matter if it was mediocre in raids, because the vast majority of players only leveled or pvp'd. You could probably do most of the game's max level content with only hunters quite comfortably, too.
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>>751550369
Don't be so retarded. I'm sure if you could argue the material, you would.
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>>751529757
This basically, a game that tries to appeal to everyone appeals to no one
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>stupid shaman tagging everthing with shocks and ghostwolf
>stupid druids tagging everything with moonfire and cheetah
>stupid hunters tagging everything with ranged attacks pets and aspect of pack
>stupid mage aoe tagging everything
>stupid priest and locks tagging everything with their dots damage
>stupid pallies and warriors rolling on my gear
the list of party exclusion grows long
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which one?
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>>751521252
>People expected a more slow-paced version of retail
People are retarded
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>>751548153
No but I got it by level 43 just by continuing to quest
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>>751515121
It was to get away from you anon.
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>>751549126
>meganerfed
who knew that shamans were the whiniest fucking players before forever
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>>751552348
Nobody that matters was expecting era with shiny shit jeet vibecoded pservers have more content im still havin fun even with the faults
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>>751552678
>Nobody that matters
You matter now?
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>>751552243
need to see the other side to be sure
lofty/glorious/vanguard on a female plate user is great too
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>>751552646
When was this nerf? cause I see shamans destroying shit in a couple hits
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>>751549110
>dude my pee smells like sand
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wheres the fucken plus???
this is just gayer classic, wheres the fucken PLUS
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>>751522680
MC doesn't change the fact that your rotation is 2 buttons and there's maybe one mechanic per fight if any.
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>>751553074
Gotta hit 35 so you can go to Riverglades.
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>>751552731
not much to look at
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>>751549269
they get a free mount now (like everyone else) at least
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Should I make a human paladin or highelf warrior?
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can't believe ret damage is again complete dogshit. they gutted any aoe capability as well so you're just a mediocre single target dps. fuck these devs. they even canceled wrath. time to go back to pservers.
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>>751549243
>>751549413
Keep in mind that by "overpowered" these players mean that enhancement shamans could do competitive damage in PvE and they died to one in PvP once.
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>>751555231
>hey even canceled wrath.
You mean for the TBC server? source?
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Shamanbros?? How are we holding up?
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>>751515121
Anything.
Everything.
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>youtube is pushing forever videos
>xaryu and pikaboo winning 1v3 ganks
>rogue and mage
some things never change i guess
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didn't have high elves and goats
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why cant the sky elves the paladins? I want to be a paladin and try out the new race but all the classes seem dumb. I would only want to be a sky elf warrior or mage.
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>>751557075
Because they can join the horde(the evil faction led by demons)
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>>751557173
undead paladin
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>>751543816
No, alliance racials are straight up superior and the battlegrounds are fundamentally built to favor them. You really think alliance wins AV because they're better gamers? Lel

>>751547483
People just want to play horde because they like the characters, even if our racials and BGs are shittier. Cope.
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>>751515121
pvp imbalance has already destroyed the pvp server, that with the fact that forever added barely anything new, its just another piss poor classic wow release
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>>751520448
>Most people I've talked to are having a blast
>some sort of rockstar propaganda trying to convince people not to get into wow forever
Very subtle
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>>751556720
Fixed the nigger-proportions for ya
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>>751543490
Turbo redditor
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How are the skyborne? Is it worth buying the $30 bundle to larp as high elves?
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>>751556720
>>751557454
i like both
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>>751557494
check twitch. every troon is playing high elves.
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>>751557402
Redditors keep saying this but im playing horde and get endlessly griefed by alliance ganksquads and i've NEVER seen the opposite happening. Idk what their obsession is with the 50/50 split.
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>>751557454
can you make them bigger again?
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>>751557494
no, besides they already confirmed silvermoon and blood elves will be playable so you can just wait
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>>751557454
Take it in the other direction instead.
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>>751557529
the only twitch streamer i know that plays WoW went tauren shaman.

>>751557562
idc about playing horde, i want elves on alliance.
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>>751557402
You should have seen it coming with the forced 50% with one(1) ONE available server during the beta
Pvp was dead on arrival and rp pvp isnt going to save it
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>>751557596
>idc about playing horde, i want elves on alliance.
then yeah you might be shit out of luck, worgens are also coming so itll probably be be for hode and worgen for alliance
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>>751549919
not really. better to keep the warm memories than tarnish them with your adult perception.

t. reread his dark materials as an adult. deeply regretted it.
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>having a good time with Forever
>see someone go by on the bear or skyborn mount
>day ruined
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>>751519550
the Ashenvale event was a terrible terrible piece of shit that never worked and constantly broke, worst thing in any iteration of WoW i've ever played bar none, surprised someone is actually using it as a defense point as if it was some kind of selling point
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>>751557803
I'm disappointed whenever ANY SoD content leaks into Forever
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>having a good time with Forever
>fattgrend randomly nerfs my spec into the ground
>day ruined
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>>751557454
futa?
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>>751557989
Warlock Tank and Mage Healer soon, both were in the beta!
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>>751558118
>both were in the beta!
they werent, they were in sod
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>>751515121
> be portuguese
> play rp-pvp
> there doesn't exist a SINGLE portuguese guild
Guess I'm accepting those Vampires guild or some shit. They were recruiting in Stormwind.
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>>751530983
That reason is they gave the class to Undead. There are more Undead Paladins than Human and Dwarves combined.
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Undead Paladin goes hard. It's definitely a huge fantasy for a lot of people. Everyone enjoys a fallen knight, especially one that used to be holy.
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>>751515121
MMOs are just not good games. They are only good because of nostalgia.
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>>751542535
Because as we have seen in the past, they quit if they don't get things fed to them.

55/45 Alliance/Horde servers are stable.
45/55 Alliance/Horde servers die because the Alliance players run away to other servers.
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Feral feels pretty nutty once you get cat form. 9% crit from 3 talents AND bleeds can crit now. Mage felt like complete shit given how fast I can rip through mobs now
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>>751558628
All 3 of the caster classes are genuine ass, that's why
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>>751558293
Nigga fr if u on an RP-Server you should join your race's designated monoracial guild nigga that shit always fun aldoe in classic zoomies got upset at the concept so iont know mabye they not a thang no more
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>>751555467
Nerfed into the ground. It way wayy too aggressive of a nerf.

I'm convinced that the devs saw the damage numbers for level 30 dungeons and decided to slash our class by 50%. Let the fucking game progress for more than a week holy shit.
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>>751548827
That’s what he gets for buying blue elves
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>im trying to make a horde character on the pvp server to play with my friends!
You niggers ain't fooling anyone, you just want to join the dominant faction
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>>751559245
>alliance players permanently assblasted because other people want to make an orc character

Why are you like this? Alliance is the dominant faction in pvp, any tryhard who cares about min-maxxing in pvp rolls human or gnome.
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>>751559345
>calling anyone else assblasted when you've been spamming for a week about how you can't play an orc
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>>751558484
Undead paladins are meant to be killed in naxx
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The faction imbalance is a little overstated.
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fishing is literally gambling but you win
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>>751560204
Holy shit it's literally over, game is fucked
We lost turtle for this
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>>751560204
Though it is a bit more pronounced on the PvP ruleset, but this is why Horde is locked right now on that ruleset until more people start playing Alliance.
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>>751560397
>The ONLY race skyborne are more popular than are Troll
lmao
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>>751515157
do not
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>>751557454
Surely you've known success in your life, right anon?
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>>751561694
find you a woman who plays wow with her mom/dad
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>>751560870
I legitimately don't know why anyone plays skelf on Alliance except mages. The Night Elves basically occupy the same thematic space, while having significantly better racials and having much more fleshed out zones.
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>>751557267
You are a Silver Hand nigga that got back up again.
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>>751561934
you cant make night elves with white skin to larp as a high elf.
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>>751557075
Certain classes represent religions. The Skyborne do not worship the Holy Light and thus cannot be paladins.
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>>751562458
I have seen a few people using Skyborne to clearly be off-brand High Elves, but they are exceedingly rare.
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>>751562769
I'm doing that. :)
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>>751563303
thats what i want to do. i'm tempted to make a high elf warrior since i cant make paladin.
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>sub for a month
>can't join friends who started earlier because of faction lock
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>>751563661
same, they just called me poor for not reversing my name/spot
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>>751515790
>turtle gave us high elves and goblins for free all with their own zones and lore
>blizzard half assed gave us reskinned blood elves BUT IN THE SKY instanced into their own zone away from the world in a version of classic where they say the world is what matters most
>that will be $30 please
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blizzard already failed at classic+. they should have left turtle wow alone but I can see why they shut it down it made forever look like the shit that it is
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>level 12
>log in
>kill a few monsters to collect something
>combat is trash
>walk around
>logout after 5-6 minutes
>repeat this process a few times everyday after work for the past week
Boring as unc shit, and I'm 41 years old. You really can't go home again.
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>>751547637
I can afford to pay for blizzards service I just refuse to like a dirty aging hooker. why would I pay for the 42 year old hooker when I can get the 20 year old for free? but I know you wouldnt know anything about that, chump
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Is the story/world itself worth appreciating for both forever and retail? I’ve never played WoW but I like big open fantasy worlds.
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>>751564781
the story is thrash no matter which version you play, larpers will tell you that classic story is fantastic because you are a small man in a big world but ignore the fact you are killing elemental lords and old gods since the first raid
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>>751564781
classic wow is a big collection of small stories, most of which are meh but there are a few that are decent. i would never say it breaches good, though.
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>>751564781
you know how mankrik wanted revenge on the quillboars because they killed his wife? well in forever her ghost comes back and tells mankrik that violence isnt the right answer and that he should forgive the quillboar
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>>751560397
>45%-55%
>this calls for a lockdown
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>>751565192
yes, it was 41 - 59 a week ago
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>>751560397
>pvp game with factions
>immediately unbalanced
It happens every single time, how can anyone ever be surprised by it?
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>>751549347
>Female character
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>>751565674
Pvp servers only worked when people couldn't actively lookup population numbers. No one likes playing on the underdog faction that has no advantages for doing so where they will be ganked as soon as they step out of the guards boundaries
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>>751566240
>a 2% population difference?
>holy shit this is literally unplayable, i'm going to be raped nonstop and orcs will bukkake me and i'll cum against my will until i'm a brainwashed sissy slave for orc cock!
WoWfags are the most insane drama queens I've ever seen.
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>>751565184
Please tell that's actually true it would be so fucking funny
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>>751566709
in cataclysm mankrik became a quillboar genocider, i guess forever is going in another direction
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>epic new weapon quest line involves Skyborne lore
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>>751566550
its more so
>Im lvl 20 and entering my first contested zone I sure hope to experience some pvp with players my level
>A level 60 ganks you and proceeds to camp your body for the next 9 hours because they get the same amount of honor for it anyways with less effort than fighting someone their own level
>Also if you get ganked we're going to punish the person getting ganked with a 5 minute timer so they can sit and think about their actions before they can hit respawn again

if youre just starting out on a pvp server even just 2 weeks after launch youre at an immense disadvantage because there are no downsides for a max level to gank a low level player. now name another game that does this. besides smurfing in league or cs which is heavily looked down upon and often banned
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>>751515121
Unbalanced. Grind fest. Same shit content.
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>>751566941
>they get the same amount of honor for it anyways
wait, i thought it was a bug on the beta, do max levels get full honor for killing lowbies? no way lmao
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>>751567101
They don't.
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which pala spec is better for leveling?
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>>751567260
retri > holy > prot
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>>751515121
OSRS rapes this shit
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>>751567337
is ret actually good in 4ever? or shit?
and can prot pala be the main tank on the level of prot war (or close to that)? at least for all dungeons..
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>>751567656
yeah, ret is good dps and better than prot for tanking the first 30-40 levels
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>>751529982
>Know a tranny
>He is literally playing the horde skyborn.
Ya, that's about right. Any horde cuck claiming we're the tranny faction needs to off themselves.
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Im 34 and so far i've not been enjoying world pvp, it's always just so one sided
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>>751516382
>>751568151
So nothing has changed?
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>>751517872
did you play it? did they reverse the raceswapped NPCs back to how they were in 2006?
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>>751568812
which npcs were swapped for forever?
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>>751568812
Actually yes they did
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>>751569393
they raceswapped them in 2019 classic, made some random humans in stormwind black etc.
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>>751569994
which ones
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>>751570209
some vendors, I don't fucking remember which
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>>751515121
Wow people stopped playing a rerelease of a 20 year old game because it's still a 20 year old game.
Shocking.
>>
They won't release wotlk anni because they know it would kill this
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>>751519328
While leveling it's hunter
At end game it will probably be rogue if they give everyone baseline resilience. A rogues power level is so heavily dependent on time to kill.
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>>751549047
>Play pirate servers for years with drop rate fixes and medium-low pop
>Wowao official blizzard support take my money!
>Reexperience wonder of WoW trying to kill 200 enemies for a macguffin drop alongside 50 other retards

I wonder how many people's nostalgia comes from actually paying for box classic-cataclism versus playing the game illegally 10 years after they'd sunsetted it. Anyone who played burning legion when it was the new $30 expansion is in their fucking 40s
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>>751570209
pic related is a few of them, i've got one more related image

>>751569496
that's surprising! censored paintings as well?
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>>751571596
not wanting to give money to this company is a good reason to skip WoW Forever btw
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Forlo is raw...
ITS FOOKIN RAW
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>>751571596
Censored paintings are back to the originals.
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>>751571707
There are so many bugs after level 30 and especially 40
It was obviously rushed
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I haven't been able to play since last Friday and I was finally able to play tonight and I just wanna say I'm having a blast.
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>>751566810
Quillboar are suborc filth who steal orc children for blood rituals, practice usury and think this is ok with Agamaggon so long as they beat a chicken to death once a year.
Qullboar genocide didn't happen, but it should.
TQD
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>>751522634
yeah i hate that you can see hyjal from fucking tanaris
like these are supposed to be massive continents
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>>751571785
that's good but also surprising. what was the raceswapping and censorship even for if they just reverse it?
new content in forever will probably be full of blacks and absolutely no risque paintings. hope people enjoy things while it lasts.

i bet things like pic related is NOT back, just the extra retarded stuff like putting a bowl of fruit there. since the textures of the original would be remade, so they probably just use the censored versions.
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Does WoW Forever use the woke icons in character creation?
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oh, that's why all the real ass dudes are playing alliance
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>>751528305
>zoomer experiences, and practices for the first time, the concept of online social etiquette
how far we’ve fallen in so short a time..
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>>751573232
it do
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>>751573163
It IS back, they reversed the fruit bowl shit AND raceswaps.
But since you want something to complain about, i'll give it to you: there are a few niggers in the new human zone.
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>>751573287
guess everything can't be good

>>751573314
>in the new human zone
well i already knew they would add woke stuff in the new content, it's microsoft activision blizzard after all.

>It IS back
did they really make a new version of that painting with the breasts and lips intact? i believe that they removed the bruit bowls but i doubt they throw away the censored already-made paintings
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>>751573279
Everyone who plays wow is basically a farm animal so fuck your direction brain e-celeb shit.
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>>751573452
Here's the Microsoft Fag Flag 2.0
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>>751571596
>>751571657
I went and checked and this is what I found.
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>>751573670
looking good, thanks! lightning seems pretty dark in that top room, they should light some candles
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>>751573575
Goatse isn't nearly as gay as that flag.
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>>751515121
>what went wrong
they remembered leveling to 60 actually takes a month unless you are unemployed
then you have to rely on 19-39 other spergs and pray they have above room temp iq so you can enjoy the game and not waste even more time
this game should of implemented the bots they have in retail and also put them in raid
the biggest redpill was when blizzard implemented those bots in dungeons so you didnt have to group with others, people learned that the bots were way better than the average player, so people stopped grouping
even when they nerfed the rewards, people still used the bots over people
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>>751515157
I joined a wowfg guild and they’re nice lads. Could use a few more ERPing night elf sluts or any at all but WoW is a game for chuds so whatever
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>>751573919
Retail dungeons have bots now?
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>>751520192
As opposed to Forever where dungeon XP even after the recent buff is still 60% less than it was in vanilla/classic? Killing 10 dungeon mobs = 1 random world mob non elite just outside

If you kill unnecessary mobs in dungeons you literally waste time
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>>751528539
It's NEVER worth to rerun any dungeon unless it's 50+ and it drops a pre raid bis
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>>751574349
yes
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>>751574485
This dungeon xp controversy is never going to go away
It was a mistake for blizzard to die on this hill. If forever is still alive a year from now, people will still be going on about it
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>>751574549
>they nerfed dungeon xp so hard its only worth doing the quests and never doing it again
>never get fucking gear
>one time a piece of mail gear drops for my tank
>roll need
>fucking hunter rolls need and wins
>runs over and theres no point in doing it again since you won't even get 5% xp for an entire SM run
i fucking hate this game
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>>751574639
Well reduced XP means 40+ you have 10 pages of groups 4/5 lf for healer
Because off specs heals like shit now and no one wants to level an healer exclusively by questing
Dual spec cost 50 golds
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>>751574609
Lol, its turned into Guild Wars
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>>751574704
And they fixed the loot problem years ago by givng need priority to each class that the gear was made for.
Fucking so many many fixes but the refuse to use them cause muh spirit of classic and shit.
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>>751574794
I've been healing as feral druid this all time without any issues. It does suck that I can't ever tank because there's always 0 healers. Also it's because healers are usually playing with dedicated group so there's even less healers for randoms.
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>>751574349
>>751573919
Bots are great, allows me to play a "lore" game
I wish more games have lore runs
I'm a huge fan of path of exile, for example, but they put the lore behind the lvl 15 fucking maps like
Dude
Just let me play the fucking story you wrote
Gatekeeping the story of your game behind the skill of other people, or a massive grind, it's fucking insane
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>>751574639
Fresh out the blizzard oven
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my friends are making fun of me for wanting to play on a pve realm
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>>751529756
Based Blizzard.
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>>751515121
>suppose to last forever
>but there's a monthly subscription and plenty of people are already 60 so hurry up!
>ding ding ding ding
>run a dungeon once
>and that was it, back to killing mobs
I get one level out of each dungeon, and one blue, and I'm back in the fields.
I don't think I want to play anymore.
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>>751564374
>Doro trvke
Forever's combat is so bad that I started new characters on retail just to kill sub time (quit back in 2019) retail's combat feels so much better it's unreal, how can anyone punish themselves with this shit?
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>>751575392
It was FIRE in 2005
In 2026 it's below indies standards but try to spice shit up like Shaman for the beta and first week of Forever was and you get psychotic trannies splitting their axe wound over how IT'S NOT CLASSIC FRIENDLY and the class lose a whole heal, a skill gets straight out erased from the game and a spec moves from a multi buttons rotation melee casting physical+magic to auto attacks hoping for windfury to procs gambling.
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>>751575658
YO THIS GAMEPLAY BE FIRE
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>>751575821
Thats a frost wand though?
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>>751575863
That's the generic icon for auto-attack, retard.
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What's the percentage chance that most of the Forever hate is from pserver vatniks?
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>>751575658
The shaman discord managing to get their class losing 50% damage output with their strike over how shaman wasn't "classic fantasy friendly" doesn't inspire for the future of the game
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>>751515121
Blasting dungeons for good loot was the most fun this game had to offer, along with world pvp fights amongst equals. This game has neither of those.
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>>751576013
You don't like 1v15 in STV?
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>>751575937
Most of it is, but I'm a certified unc that played back then and I hate Forever too so yeah, we're out here lmao. I would've wanted retail's combat, but in a classic world and raiding as difficult as TBC at most so people could still pug everything and not be a seething raidtranny.
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>>751575898
>the average IQ of WoW thread shitposter
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>>751575898
Wands dont auto attack
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>what went wrong
The Ashenvale leveling experience
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>>751573919
>this game should of implemented the bots they have in retail and also put them in raid
Stop playing MMOs you retarded nigger.
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how do you get the dalaran portal for mage
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As someone playing because his best bro rejoined who originally quit after wrath, im having an okay time, im mostly a BC/wrath player and man leveling is hard and drawn out but I do love the active world. That said the socialization can be cringe sometimes, im the kind that can liven up s zone into chats easily because I have a lot on my mind always whether about the game or not, but I was leveling in mulgore and everyone is saying moo because they think its hilarious. I dont shit on it because I know they're just having fun but I start talking about other stuff in general when its dead and just me having an actual game related conversation caused some retard to say
>bro youre supposed to just moo
And it really sat with me how idiotic the populace im playing with is.
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>>751574485
I know people trying to speedrun and via just grinding dungeons dont like this, but this is a good thing in my opinion. Dungeons for loot, overworld quests for XP. People just doing instances and nothing else is what killed retails overworld, now you have to do it instead of just trying too meta grind.
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>>751574485
>speedrun fags still bawling about dungeon exp
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>>751576343
I just jumped back and forth between thousand needles and there as I level up a bit. That area sucks my dick.
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>>751515121
>what went wrong
it's a 22 year old game anon
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>>751549047
>Hates game
>Continues to play it

Retard
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>>751576427
you can't, at least for now
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>>751515121
>a kill in a dungeon gives zero XP to everyone in the group when the mob is trivial to even one person in it
no dungeons, no raids, no alternatives
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>>751576860
>run seller wailing
You love to see it.
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>>751576498
Dungeon spamming isnt even the fastest way to level.
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>>751576979
How is that relevant to you crying about not being able to spam dungeons without travel time and with a shitload of blue gear drops and then still also get nice exp on top of that? Keep crying, speedrun fag.
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>>751577074
Yeah, fuck me for wanting to group up and kill shit like how MMOs are supposed to be played. You say dungeon spam is retail but literally every single MMO before WoW was dungeon spamming. Soloing shit is literally a retail WoW invention to the genre.
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>>751576979
Now it isnt. The issue comes from it also having the best gear drops, both to use and sell, so if the XP is even on par with overworld it invalidates the overworld by having better rewards for doing them. Now its one or the other, do you want XP focus? Do quests. Do you want gear? Do dungeons. They averted the problem of having dungeons just do both, not that its the fastest, but that it kills two birds with one stone and is a one stop shop to max level.

>>751577216
Anon, you can still play the dungeons...you can repeat them as much as you like even, its just not the most efficient way to level up now, youll probably get rich but now level up much at all.
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>>751577279
>its just not the most efficient way to level up now
It never was the most efficient way to level. Sure, maybe if you have a dedicated group of mages spamcleaving but the same exact thing happening now with aoe spamming and layer hopping in Forever. You are retarded.
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You can still easily aoe spam dungeons and level almost as fast as you do when questing. It's like maybe 10% slower.
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>>751576962
>You no longer get XP if you're level 25 and run SFK
It was already abysmal, this is worse. They could, and did, already address run selling dungeons by pushing kill XP to quest XP.
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>>751577216
>Yeah, fuck me for wanting to group up and kill shit like how MMOs are supposed to be played.
Don't say you're just trying to play it how it's supposed to be when you're trying to ignore the WORLD of Warcraft. You can group up and kill shit outside too, by the way.
>You say dungeon spam is retail but literally every single MMO before WoW was dungeon spamming.
I don't think you played any MMOs before WoW because instanced dungeons were not a thing before WoW. Dungeons in older MMOs were just underground parts of the shared open world.
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>>751577450
You just play it as normal setup anon. Im saying this as someone who is in a guild that was repeating them, the way it was was made it so you can skip doing overworld questing and just live in dungeons grinding them. It was exactly like retail but the only difference is you had to walk to the dungeon to start spamming it.

Im sure you saw people who were level 30~ within a day? This was why. Now it is no longer efficient for levelling, so while you can still do this it is very boring and you are not making progress towards anything but money.
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>>751577642
>instanced dungeons were not a thing before WoW
Without all the semantics, the idea is the same, you group and spend hours together killing stuff. WoW just put it on a treadmill rather than staking out a plot of land.
I've already done this shit at least 20+ times and I just want to play an MMO in the way that I find enjoyable (which doesnt negatively impact you at all) and how MMOs are supposed to be played.
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pve realm
prot warrior
proper nice time
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>>751573163
there is one bikini picture i found that survived the purge

but i'm not going to reveal its location, as i want it to remain
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The funniest part of the dungeon XP complaints are that the people trying to rush to high level are complaining that they can't afford mounts and dual spec at 40. If they just ran the dungeons more than the one time minimum they need for quests they would be rolling in money. They're actively sabotaging themselves by trying to maximize their XP.
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>>751579485
yeah. i decided that i'm going to buy dual spec first as a priest, and use the gold to level professions instead of buying a mount
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>>751579751
>No movement skills
>Wand 24/7
How do you not want to kill yourself while playing as priest? I tempting to play one since there healer shortage.
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>>751579485
I can't be mad at them because they are the target audience
Forever is an attempt to make retail players play classic, so why would you be mad at them when your product don't reflect your own goals?
They have been primed for years to do just the thing they complain they can't do, and they are the intended audience
They are not the problem, and I can't even blame them for it
The solution is of course elegant and simple, just make the first dungeon give BIG xp, and then less, and less and less, with very punishing diminishing returns.
Then it becomes a system that you internalize, and they can keep running dungeons at lower xp if that's what they want, but you made it a player's choice
This isn't a player problem



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