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Why do normies love these games and their derivatives so much? I would assume they would be more niche
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>>751533791
limited moveset and simon's says boss battles
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Soulslikes are turn-based games for people who want to play something action-packed. Since the combat is so heavy and reliant on visual cues, it gives the illusion of depth. Normies also like "safe hard" games that aren't actually challenging at all but just waste your time for not immediately intuiting everything with no feedback.
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>>751533791
simple pattern recognition and like 3 inputs
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I've already forgotten when "normie" became the standard term over "normalfag" on /v/. I assume it around the time 4chan became overrun with normalfags who unironically use the term "normie".
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>>751533791
I dont think they love them THAT much. Besides Elden Ring, it's got nothing on fortnite, COD, sportsball, GTA / Rockstar, CDPR etc. It's still mostly considered a niche for true gamers who can take the difficulty
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>>751534217
>ERMMMM YOU'RE NOT A TRUE LE BASED OLDFAG LIKE ME UNLESS YOU SAY THIS WORD!!!
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>>751533957
>Soulslikes are turn-based games
Not since dark souls 2. Everything post-BB has been total adhd shit, it's why I play soulsclones nowadays that are way better than whatever open world shit fromslop comes up with
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>>751533791
They're easy and don't require much thinking
Levels are all super linear
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>>751533791
The majority is LARPers that have probably only played one game without even finishing it.
PSN trophies say that only 50% of the players reach half of the first Dark Souls.
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>>751533791
they perfected the "action games for retards" formula. easy controls, completely shallow combat mechanics, stars so you can eventually level up enough to get an advantage, and you die in 3 hits do it feels like the stakes are high. normgroids would literally rather play a Souls game for the 20th time with a new build that barely affects the combat rather than play an action game above Normal difficulty
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>>751534217
normie just rolls off the tongue better
normalfag is too long and contrived
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>>751534308
Yes. Write normalfaggot your redditor piece of shit.
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>>751534308
>>751534493
That didn't actually answer the question.
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>>751534217
Yeah you can just assume anyone using the term "normie" is a failed normalfag twitter reject
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>>751534462
I mean that's higher than most AAA games so it's kind of a counter argument against your own point.
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>>751534217
You'd be right. Normalfags will use normies, you'll notice they won't ever say kike or nigger as well. They're redditor invaders and should be treated as such. Anyone who posts here that has any sort of social media account, I wish for them nothing but an agonizing death.
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>>751534217
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>>751534729
Didn't normie come first (/r9k/), then normalfag?
Fake oldfags, holy shit burn this site down already.
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>>751534921
Never said I was an oldfag, I'm a 2008 newfag, doesn't change the fact that normalfag was the standard until several years ago, normie was not nearly as commonly used. But then I am using /v/ and /a/ as my metric, I can't account for /r9k/ or other boards which are de facto normalfag boards in their own right.
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>>751535248
jesus stop larping
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>>751534921
Yes, the term normie came first and it was first used to refer to non-disabled people, the first recorded use is this article from 1950:
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1950/05/young-van-schuylers-greatest-romance/639673/
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>>751533791
because of le lore, and omg le hecking lorelerino, is so 2deep4me, and plin plon plin gwyn theme is so le good xd
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>>751535305
I'm larping as a newfag now? Fucking cope, m8.
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>>751535248
2008 is "oldfag", like it or not, and "normie" was already in circulation at that time. Before Reddit had meaningful influence on the internet or any outside hoard.
>>751535307
Well, yeah, you can see it in old books and games, but to be fair we're referring to specifically 4chan lingo.

Honestly I'm not entirely sure which came first, but "normie" was used here forever so complaining about some tourists bringing their lingo in is trying too hard to fit in.
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>>751535401
just stop larping you know damn well that 2008 is "oldfag" territory that's like 30 years ago and I also opened up 4chan once or twice during that time but was not a regular poster, posting regularly on and off since maybe 2014, being concerned over whose le newfag or oldfag for clout is very reddit ironically enough
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>>751533791
>Why do normies love these games and their derivatives so much? I would assume they would be more niche
It's fake "hard games" that people spend for elite gamer pointz.
You yourself assume assume these would be niche. Why? It's action fantasy games.
Struggle with a boss? Google. Elemental weaknesses, broken weapons, cheese strat, exploits. Summoning lmao.
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>>751534217
>Searching for posts that contain ‘normalfag’ and posts before 2012-01-01 and in ascending order. Returning only first 5000 of 26971 results found.
>Searching for posts that contain ‘normie’ and posts before 2012-01-01 and in ascending order. 71 results found.
>Searching for posts that contain ‘normalfag’ and posts before 2015-01-01 and in ascending order. Returning only first 5000 of 165306 results found.
>Searching for posts that contain ‘normie’ and posts before 2015-01-01 and in ascending order. Returning only first 5000 of 37215 results found.
>Searching for posts that contain ‘normalfag’ and posts before 2016-01-01 and in ascending order. Returning only first 5000 of 198148 results found.
>Searching for posts that contain ‘normie’ and posts before 2016-01-01 and in ascending order. Returning only first 5000 of 228575 results found.
I guess if you want something done properly you have to do it yourself. This is from the desu archive searching all boards, if anyone was wondering, b4k doesn't go nearly far back enough to be useful for this.

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>>751535616
2008 was post-Geass newfag. It really doesn't matter if you believe me or not, the point wasn't about newfags or oldfags, it was about a switchover specific to /v/ (among other boards) that happened long after newfag stopped having much meaning, it's a moot point.
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>>751534921
I didn't browse 4chan until 2012 and I only ever saw people say normie. It wasn't until 2016 did people suddenly come out of the woodwork saying no one has ever said normie, you must say normalfag now, and I always thought that was interesting.
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>normie
lol normogroid term
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>>751536481
>correlates with Google Trends and the word "normie"
woah... it's almost like the word surged in popularity across
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>>751534217
like 2010 at the latest, I know for a fact that REEEEEE NORMIES GET OUT first appeared no later than that and it might be as far back as 2008, can't confidently recollect any further back though
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>>751533791
I love pissing and shidding
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>>751533791
Because they aren't patronising. Thats all it takes. Telling someone they are smart doesnt do nearly as much as telling them they arent stupid, so then they tell themselves they are smart.

Remember Demon's came out in an era where games were getting really, really stupid. Bioshock with infinite respawns on every difficulty unless you turned it off into settings for example.

Its really just NES/SNES era design returning but its enough when most games treat you like an idiot.
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>>751537024
I mean the most telling one to me is that there's only 71 results for normie across all included boards prior to 2012, against 26971 results for normalfag. So all the people saying normie was in popular use back then are either lying or have highly selective memory.
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>>751537748
Filter by board, check /r9k/.
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>>751534591
My counter to this counter is that most of those LARPers didn't even buy the games
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>>751538034
The /r9k/ archive only goes back to around mid-2012.
>Searching for posts that contain ‘normalfag’ and posts before 2013-01-01 and in ascending order. Returning only first 5000 of 9687 results found.
Searching for posts that contain ‘normie’ and posts before 2013-01-01 and in ascending order. 158 results found.
Searching for posts that contain ‘normalfag’ and posts before 2014-01-01 and in ascending order. Returning only first 5000 of 34659 results found.
Searching for posts that contain ‘normie’ and posts before 2014-01-01 and in ascending order. 1803 results found.
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>>751538357
the "normies reee" meme was 2014, so I guess that's when it became standard there
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>>751533791
From Software makes fun games and people like fun games. It’s really not complicated
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Marketing tricked them into thinking they're hardcore.
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>>751534217
I thought it was normalnigger
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751534217
Wannabe oldfag spotted.
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>>751538520
It did occur to me that the plural form may have different results, no idea if it actually makes a difference, though (this is still /r9k/ only, by the way):
Searching for posts that contain ‘normalfags’ and posts before 2015-01-01 and in ascending order. Returning only first 5000 of 44092 results found.
Searching for posts that contain ‘normies’ and posts before 2015-01-01 and in ascending order. Returning only first 5000 of 22230 results found.
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>>751534217
When outsiders steal 4chan lingo they always truncate and/or sanitize it
>normalfag --> normie
>weaboo --> weeb
>femoid --> foid
There are probably countless others i cant think of right now
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>>751535401
Yes, you fucking insufferable cunt, you’re LARPing. “Pretending to not understand,” to use an even newer one
>oh tee hee I’m not that old I’ve only been here for 20 years, but I don’t even see that as old because I’m so very wise in the /v/tard ways.

It’s all quite embarrassing, and more than anything revealing about you that you think it’s something worth bragging about.
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>>751538683
Actually that one is very new, no results at all prior to 2013 which doesn't surprise me.

>>751538704
Like I said, not an oldfag, also the archives already proved my point.
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>>751538939
Dude, you're getting really fucking salty over something that genuinely doesn't matter, newfag or oldfag wasn't the point and I've already solved the issue on my own, it's done with.
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>>751539062
I’m not addressing the issue and im NTA, I’m insulting you for being annoying. If you’d prefer I not, be less annoying next time
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>>751539432
In that case you're just a faggot, not my problem.
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>>751533791
Because you have to understand the handholding area they were released during. Demon's Souls was shocking in how you were supposed to slowly advance and pay attention, especially since most westerners had zero experience with King's Field.
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>>751534217
Normie nowadays is basically comprised by newfaggot SEAjeets. It’s a big southeast Asian term in their Internet sphere
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>>751540083
not at all you retard schizo
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>>751533791
The most popular modern games are the ones that have a lot of exploration



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