What's wrong with Helldivers 2?
>>751537656Fixing what isn't broken and snatching defeat from the jaws of victory
>>751537656Same thing with tf2Catering to balancefags to destroy funIf nothing is powerful nothing is fun
>>751537656Their honest to god marketing strategy involves ragebaiting their playerbase. I don't think you realize how sadistic they are.
>>751537656It's usually quicker to list the things that are working 100% correctly than list the number of bugs that exist in any given build. It's one of the most broken games to ever see mainstream success.
meta fags ruins everything
>>751537656sony accountEAC
>>751537656I am literally incapable of playing it anymore ever since the last few updates. It just crashes on startup and says it didn't launch properly. Nothing I do fixes it, so Arrowhead just decided I don't get to play the game anymore.
Is the sterilizer still a steaming pile of shit? If yes that's your answer, it's been at least a year now, and that's just one weapon/stratagem in a long list.
Look up their offices. They took all that warbond cash and spent it on turning their office into a damn rec center
>>751537656Arrowhead is married to a vision of the game they never actually made.They also nerf things, then sell (mediocre) solutions to them.>Make weapon handling worse.>Here's an armor that makes it better, that'll be $10.>Make ragdolling worse and more common.>Here's an armor that makes it (barely) better, that'll be $10.and so on.The game has some paradox levels of DLC, and it is also just about the only way they add content to the game.If they thought they could get away with putting new enemies and biomes in the warbonds, they absolutely would. Which, might honestly be better for the game's health, because most of the enemies they've added have been canceraids to fight.Most recently, they finally followed through on the anti-cheat change they said they were doing a while back. This coincided with people finally taking fixing the game into their own hands with mods. In addition to pushing the new (and still useless) anticheat, they also gutted the interior logic the mods were using to effect the game.Rather proving that they rushed out the new anticheat to stop mods making them look bad by fixing "bugs" that they've been promising to fix for years now in weeks. The reality is that several of these bugs, specicially strategem bounce and hellpod steering lock were put in by them specicially because they thought it was unfair to the AI. And they also love the game just killing the players randomly, as people found code confirming that turrets and drones do indeed just target the player occasionally.Arrowhead have burnt pretty much every last scrap of goodwill they ever had, and all but the glaziest of glazedivers are starting to turn on them.All that say, the game itself is fun, when it works. Haven't tried it, but there is HD2: Hellforge, which forked the game before the anticheat change, and is thus able to be modded.
>>751539285>first spoilerthats a big hit of copium you took, you sure you aren't gonna OD on it?
>>751538427>EACoh neat, they got rid of GameGuard then?
The problem is everyone thinks the highest difficulty is the only one you're allowed to play. Then they bitch that light armor pen is useless because everything they fight is boss level with high armor. Or they're required to play with a team instead of soloing every enemy in the entire game with a crossbow, airstrike and grenade pistol.Those stupid faggots ruined the game forcing devs to balance against the "end of the world fuckoff difficulty for sadists" instead of playing at diff 7 and enjoying the 1000 cool weapons in the game.
>>751537656I'm so glad I never got into this game
>>751538427so it's a chinese cheater melty this time?
>>751542052this is true but game developers overall should do more to emphasize which difficulty the game is intended to be played at, so that people don't just assume that the ultra hardcore nightmare difficulty means it's the most exciting and fun one
Half the time I look in its people complaining D10 is too hard and the "new enemy type" is cancer/too hard.and then they refuse to play a lower difficulty
>>751542776You just described 90% of the people who complain about the game, including most in this thread. I play Do and chill
>>751542680I'm pretty sure they did initially. They made an ultra high difficulty that was supposed to be unfair but everyone forgot that and now they complain there's not enough ammo to take out 30 bile titans spawning on you. That's the fucking point, you shouldn't have enough time and ammo to 100% a map solo while facing a boss rush.The problem really is players are cancer to each other and think they're superior for playing higher difficulty. Diff 1-3 is super credit farming, 4-6 is a ghost town or literal children, 7-9 is where the real fun is but it's all drooling retards and 10 is where 90% of the playerbase is.
>>751537656The picture attached to your posts answers your own question
>>751542680They game is balanced around a full team of 4 playing on difficulty 7.
>>751537656narrowhead its incapable to do an ost that can last the whole game life and exist ingame
>>751538557its only good as backpack drone utility crowd control with less chance to kill your team
>>751537656Swedes
the dev's intent was to make a larpy comedy objective shooter, mostly for you to just shoot clankers/bugs, get ragdoll'd and have silly death from eagle strikes while screaming "muh democracy", with the fake selling point of an ever-evolving galactic war. basically watered down EDF for redditors and gamerdads. the game attracted too many tacticool adjascent autists that directly clash with the target audience, so instead of getting a galactic war you get a perma seething war from both fronts and the devs having no idea how to balance it. it's unfortunate because the most fun I had in this game was the first week of the bug caves and the vox engine spam and that was me just eating shit mostly
>>7515435284-6 its narrowhead beta testing and they get raped in that difficulty KEK
>>751537656swineden hubris is unmatched, beats french and russian combined and multiplied by 2
>>751545520galactic war its dogshit its mostly joel asspulling:>UHHHHHHH KILLL 6 BILLIONS VOX ENGINES EVEN THOUGHT WE NERFED THEIR SPAWNRATEfirst game simplicity was perfect not retarded shit like muh gambit planet hp etc
>>751537656So basically people we openly cheating online and Arrowhead understandably locked that down before the entire game exploded. So now Chinese are voting the game down in retaliation. That's the reason why. Can you imagine the mindset to leave a negative reply because you can't cheat in an online game? Simply staggering.
>>751537656It reminds me of Halo Infinite case, this one, along with Helldivers 2, are the games I've spent the most hours playing on my Steam account>>751541315>>751542365I don't know if it's a good idea to have the Fortnite anti-cheat, it's been proven time and again that it can be bypassed in online games https://x.com/xlewxlew/status/2121039151495794790 and there's little point in having it if they don't ban accounts anyway
>>751545885if it wasnt for cheating we had lost super earth galactic war system its pure dogshit
>>751545885Hope Arrowhead is at least paying you for this opinion.
>>751545913its already raped atleast it has less memory leaks the game ( still has)
>>751537983Lol everyone laugh at this retard. More than half the guns in the game are 1 shot kills on every enemy and you think anything is fucking balanced at all? Hahahaha
>>751545964>>751545993you are trying to defend cheating in an online game this is a losing argument you have no moral high ground here
>>751545913infinite on release was fun times, when the servers weren't shitting themselves
>>751539285Goddamn am I glad I just continued to play EDF instead.
>>751546115EAC is exactly as powerless as GG at preventing cheating, and the cheating was back online within 15 minutes.The only thing they actually killed were cosmetic and community bug fixes like the bouncing and locking.
>>751543528>7-9 is where the real fun is but it's all drooling retardsWhat's the problem? You trying to get carried through babymode?
>>751545709>first game simplicity was perfectAlmost, it needed to have each front count as a separate war so I don't have to wait 5 weeks for cyborgniggers to lose so I can play the game again
>>751543528To be fair, at least against bugs, D10 is pretty easy these days. I don't know if there were nerfs, or just the increased enemy variety and weapon loadouts help. But I remember back at launch when bugs kicked my ass at D7. Now me and 2 buddies are doing 10 without too much trouble while drunk and high.
One thing I've learned from people during my observation of this capitalist mess we live in is that almost everyone who's seen success has done so by accident and almost every time they try to replicate it they fail and continue to fail until they've depleted the fortunes gained from their accidental mistake. Then they die.
>>751546407>Spawn rate nerf on heavies >Spawn weight nerf on higher tier enemies>Armour and hp nerf on every single enemy>Weapons damage up 50-100% across every gunPeople will still tell you this game gets nothing but nerfs even though you can look at the change history and see nothing but insane power creep
>>751543528D10 itself is not actually difficult unless you’re running in with bog-standard equipment and you don’t cover your bases for AT/trash clear. I think majority of the difficulty in this game is when your retarded pubs or friends take absolute dogshit weapons they want to fuck around with like the Quasar/Epoch/Arc guns or they take terrible weapon combos like the Ultimatium and the Eruptor and constantly get pushed around by small mobile enemies. Vast majorty of the difficulty came from actual (game) bugs, like alpha commanders exclusively targeting the host for their warrior spawns, patrol spawning being busted, etc. Even with their patrol spawning fixes you can still easily cap the game’s spawns out by letting two people aggro a breach and the other two do every objective uncontested.
>>751546952its a good way to gatekeep narrowhead i still remember one retard decided to buff one chaf bug armor from medium to heavy back when oasis biomess
>>751547048>Go into d10 gloom hive world with default lib/peacemaker/starter armour/frags>precision strike, EAT, airstrike and mg43>Expect to lose>Win easily>Not even a sweat This should literally be hard not easy as fuck
>>751547290D10 is actually easier than D6 if you hit the right spawn seeds
>>751545669cope and sneed amerifat
>>751547290The standard john helldiver loadout is almost exceptionally balanced if you have half a brain. MG-43 for medium pen and cutting down groups, EAT/OPS for heavies, standard grenades for bug holes, Liberator/Peacemaker for trash, and airstrike/stafe deals with groups effectively. It covers bases. You just get two retards that want to run gas dog/warp pack, napalm barrage, laser cannon, gatling turret for running away from things instead of killing them and you can’t keep up while they sap all of your reinforcements being retarded.
>>751547410Thankfully they banned the mod that let you see the seed before starting the mission.You know, that thing every other horde game lets you see because players need that info to build their loadout.
>>751541315Yes and broke all the QOL mods when doing so. Don't worry. Actual cheats still work just fine. Just the good mods that showed how incompetent the studio is stopped working
>>751547826>QOL modsYeah bro it's a QOL to have 50% more damage and take 99% reduced damage from ragdolls oh and also reducing reload times by 75%. Such QOL bro.
>>751539285>as people found code confirming that turrets and drones do indeed just target the player occasionallyShow me.
i want magicka 3 as a helldivers clone3rd person pve missionsmake your loadout and spellsblast fantasy creatures and call in bullshit magic
>>751547952Those cheats still work. The QOL mods that fix bugs (like hellpods not being steerable for over 2 years) are the only things they blocked
>>751547969iirc turrets and drones are programmed to swap target to the nearest non hostile entity if there are no hostiles nearby, and because they dont stop shooting while retargeting they constantly sweep over friendlies when they kill something at the edge of their range
>>751537656Nothing, it was bad from day 1 but fanboys will never admit it
You will pay arrow headThe chaos divers will reign supremeSUPA EARTH WILL BURN
>>751547952No one believes your lies Shams.
>>751548079Based, but what does the troonjak have to do with the review
>>751548031Yeah that's cool dude. Now show us.
HD2 has got to be the most antagonistic relationship between devs and the playerbase I’ve ever seen.Sweeping changes that seem to exist only to fuck over the people still playing are like a weekly occurrence. Then they get review bombed AGAIN, reluctantly apologize and say things will be different going forward, only for it to start all over again.Not even Fatshark is THIS bad. They’re stupid but outright spiteful.
>>751537656"We have to balance this PvE game to make it less fun for 99% players"
>>751537983>>751546046The beginning of the end was the railgun nerfs.
Any reason to play this over EDF?
>>751537656Grunt Fantasyseaf are grunts and hd aren't seaf
>>751548370Because AT options were godawful.
>>751537656Picrel explains itTruly ruined I would rather play a gachashit gayme than Helldivers 2, that's how bad it is
>>751548386Not really. This is just edf for people who don't deserve to play edf
All they had to do was make a coop shooter with some cool autistic weapon details but all they wanted to do was spitefully argue with random players online
>>751548424>At games launch had to team load RR to keep up with heavy spawns >Now you can pay 1500 SC to get the speed loader armour and RR 1 shots every enemy without needing to aim It's okay to say you can't aim bro. You can be a shitter all you want, just don't expect everyone else to be as shit as you
>>751548572No, at launch you just brought the railgun. Don't even pretend people used EAT or RR.
>>751548572>t. illiterate jeet
>>751548437retard
>>751548386Gameplay is more polished and less jank.That’s the only pro I can give it over EDF and even then very reluctantly. Otherwise you’re looking at:>hundreds of dollars worth of DLC>autistic swede devs who flipflop between making the game a co-op horde shooter and an ultra realistic milsim at random to the detriment of fun>regular balance passes nobody asked for so the guns you paid for or slavishly grinded credits for will randomly turn completely useless at any time>endless lies and broken promises
>>751548638But they didt. Played the game unlike you
I just wished this game worked. I'm fine with the difficulty, I like the new enemies (expect for these new bugs they're boring so far), my main complaints is Super Credits and I wish the game just fucking worked
>>751548386Better netcode than the Epicshit they put in EDF, but that only applies to 6
>>751547969>>751548209nta but here you go. bear in mind that SEAF use the same AI as the turrets for targeting
Tesla tower is the funniest stratagem they added to this game. Completely breaks the AI in the right spot and then it kills your whole team
>>751549103For me it's the 500kg. That quarter second after it lands and before it explodes is comedy gold
>We added Easy Anti-Cheat for one reason: to reduce the number of cheaters joining your missions and ruining the experience.I never gave a shit if someone in my mission was cheating or not.
>>751542052Lower difficulty is a joke
>>751549704it also didn't stop the cheat engine cheaters
>>751537656Swedes, that is all.
>>751549704The only thing it DOESNT stop are actual cheats. It just broke mods
>>751546715>one thing I learned from people during my observation of this Swedish messFTFY
>>751549704The only "cheater" I ever encountered was a chinaman who joined, spawned a bunch of SC, and then left.It was such a traumatizing experience I can see why those swedes want to make sure it doesn't happen to anyone else.
It's a really fun game at it's core that is being managed by Swedish devs who have outright contempt for their playerbase.
>>751549796Motherfucker I opened the thread to make this post and you beat me by 4 minutes. FUCKING swedes man you can't trust them to not fuck it up. The closest was notch and he sold the company before he could go full retard
>>751549704i'm 110% sure that the only reason this COOP game has anticheat is because they don't want the majority of players using cheat engine to easily spam super credits. arrowhead just don't want to lose money
>>751548681Kys faggot
>>751547410examples?
>>751542052So its the entitled dad gamers being mad that they cant use the starting gun to nobrain through challenge modes?
>>751545520As a fan of the blatant asset flipping and bargain bin game series that is the EDF series, even they know how to make shooting hordes of enemies with overpowered weapons fun while still keeping the difficulty there. Arrowhead should unironically look at the EDF series on how to even do horde shooter combat better.
>>751550074they could have just done what every other game developer does and make all the actual content (new weapons, vehicles, etc.) free with a reliable grind and not tied to the in-game shop currency for cosmeticsthey doomed themselves the moment they made it to where you can find and farm super credits in missions
>>751542052The highest difficulties are the only ones where you’re playing the game, everything else is trivial. They should be balancing weapons around the highest difficulty, light pen stops mattering at like 7 which is baby’s first hard.
>>751550246>Swedes>Taking advice>>>>>Taking advice from their bettersSandlot understands fun first. Which is why the first thing they do whenever a new console comes out is see how many bugs they can spawn in while keeping the FPS above 24 (before air support and player controlled explosions)
>>751548225even worse are the hordes of people saying its being engoodened after the sixth terrible update lands
>>751549004okay but where's the code you said existed that confirms this is intentional?
>>751550437I'm actually looking forward to 6.2 entirely because of that last part. The madmen asked themselves, "what if we doubled, no tripled, no....QUADRUPLED the number of enemies on the screen at once? We can give the players modular weapons to compensate for it AND introduce even more enemies they've never seen before!"It's a constant escalation and I love it.
>>751550723Google it nigger the data miners found it a year and a half ago
>>751550901Yep they get it. Fuck graphics give me more shit to kill with dumber weapons
>>751550074This isn’t even a conspiracy theory it’s just common sense.Anyone could tell you the only people who really cheat in this game do it for infinite super creds.
>>751551692>the vast majority of drops are the 10SC onesNo wonder people are cheating that shit in, you're scouring the fucking map for pennies
>>751551858people have begged for SC drops to scale with difficulty from the beginning but it will never happenit’s shit by design
>>751552060>mfw joined a welfare lobby on /vg/ when they found out how to reliably spawn and automatically pick up SC drops at set intervals>had 5K by the end of the operation>haven’t paid or had to grind SC for a single warbond since, have every item
I miss when the stealth mechanics mattered
>>751552060This feels like one of those problems that could've been nipped in the bud by just not having SC drop as an item at all. Leaving them has left people incorrectly assuming that the same scummy pay to win practices aren't in the game, "because you can just farm SC for the warbonds!" As if that somehow makes it better.
>>7515522495k wouldn't even buy a quarter of what's in the shop
Helldivers 2 is incompetent. Arrowhead bit off more than they can chew. Glitches and design flaws and retarded choices like "muh grunt fantasy" and "bacon-flavored apples" are all dumb. Same with dumbing down enemy AI since launch, like how the Automatons lost all real combat strategy in favor of grenades, rushdowns and standing still. None of this is really debatable, no matter how much someone may like what's been done.But it's a fucking basic ass co-op horde shooter game that just allows for a lot of flexible loadouts/playstyles and has some nice controls. People act like it's the most important thing ever that they must bitch and piss and moan about it but like, jesus christ. The amount of people that have practically tried to make it a part of their very lifestyle and identity is disgusting.
>>751545520>half the players are the wacky kooky friendslop casual type of coop gamer and the other half are sweaty metafag he went off track for 0.2 seconds vote kick type of coop gamergenuinely how do you fix this
>>751552392either embrace the chaos or just play with friendsthat’s how it is playing co-op games with randumbs
>>751552359>5K was the only SC I ever earnedthat was from one operation retard, plus I already had a ton of stuff unlocked.
>>751552307they still do, it's just kind of worthless without the two stealth warbonds since even with the overhauls to mechanics kinda suck. with those warbonds you can break the AI over your knee to a comical degree.
>>751552392Don't be a retarded schizophrenic flipflopping between two different gameplay directions and you won't cultivate two different playerbases trying to play simultaneously
>>751547440wrong as usual, swineden retard, i am your better from your south
>>751549704EAC is such a fucking memedoes nothing to stop cheating while fucking legitimate players overliteral malware
>>751548401Helldivers are SEAFBut not all SEAF are Helldivers
>>751537656The dev team are truly insane, retarded trannies. The only other game I can think of where the devs actively try to find ways to ruin their game and make it less fun is Dead by Daylight. Helldivers 2 has not been fun since two months after launch.
>>751552469So why the fuck did you mention it like it was at all relevant to your post you fucking retard?
>>751549861It didn't even break the vast majority of mods. It just broke the Lua mods that people slopped together on short notice before things got too out of hand. Now people are screaming bloody murder that the game has been ruined because people lost all that excess lua shit.
>>751548386EDF broke so hard for me that i could no longer play it in multiplayerhappened like 4 years ago. fuck that pos
>>751552793because I got 5,000 super credits in the course of 3 regular d10 missions you illiterate brownoid. Whereas nornally you are lucky to get 100 even farming
>>751548723No, they didn'tthose things were dogshit and took a minimum of 2 shots to kill any heavy except there were 11 heavies on the field at a timenobody used them except contrarians who wanted to lose
>>751549004>we found the code bro>may we see it?>nolol
>>751537656Arrowhead might be the most backwards company in the industry. Instead of firing the deranged trannies that hate their playerbase and go out of their way to hurt them and make the game worse, they promote them and give them more control over the game. The owner and founder of the company instead demoted himself and gave full control of his company to a Sony-appointed jeet to punish himself for the game selling well instead of addressing how bad his employees are. Just baffling behavior, I don't get it.
>>751552793You're actually a subhuman fucking retard, never post here again. Holy shit
>>751553220He was a retard who has no media training
>>751553220Even despite all that being completely true they’re also somehow Sony’s only relatively successful live service studioShows how grim things are
I feel like the sandbox should've been twice as big at this point but they just seem to have been fucking around instead.
What a brown thread.
>>751553253Meant for >>751552919
>>751553081>can literally watch hundreds of videos of people walking around sentries and getting targeted >"acktually this proves nothing and you need to provide the source code" >entire game has been reverse engineered literally via vibe code over 3 weeks and all its vanilla problems are now fixed >vibe coders all say this shit could be fix in less than 1 hour if Ah wanted to do so as its a toggle switch>"thats illegal and its hurting the multi billion dollar corporation"Glazed ham
>>751553642>can’t even reply correctly
The Tragedy of Helldivers 2Potential Helldiver: [Clicks of Helldivers 2 steam page. Looks at the review score. Scrolls down to read the steam reviews.]Helldiver: “Did you ever hear the tragedy of Helldivers 2?”Potential Helldiver: “No.”Helldiver: “I thought not. It’s not a story Arrowhead, their Discord or Reddit would tell you. Helldivers 2 was a once in a lifetime game. The game had fantastic game-play, an amazing community, no FOMO and the potential to become one of the greatest games of all time.”Potential Helldiver: “Well what happened then?”Helldiver: “Arrowhead did. Their approach to balancing is that of a monkey’s paw. They buff a weapon only to buff the enemies negating the weapon buff in the first place. It is so bad that when they make a change to nerf one weapon with a high pick rate, they end up hurting other weapons/gear.”Potential Helldiver: “Well that’s not the best, but is the core game-play still fun at least?”
>>751553675Don't talk out of your ass next time.
>>751553753Helldiver: “Depends. When you can actually login, and complete missions before a CTD or before your PC hard-locks, it can still be fun. There is still very primitive and limit progression even though the game has been out for over 3 years now. The majority or armors, weapons, stratagems are locked behind 25 paid warbonds that you need to spend over 200USD to unlock. That is not to mention all the other content on the in game store. You can grind for the in game currency but that can take many hours to unlock one warbond and then you still need get medals to unlock all the content of said warbond before you can actually get the gear you want to play with. At times it feels like a full time job grinding if you don’t want to spend your money on a warbond. There are so many game breaking bugs like stratagem bouncing, hellpod steering restrictions & vaulting obstacles to name a few that have been in the game for years that Arrowhead has not fixed. Every patch Arrowhead puts out tends to create more bugs and problems than before. It got so bad the community turned to modders for bug fixes, quality of life features and long requested features like armor, and vehicle customization. Instead of fixing bugs, adding meaningful progression and adding community requested features, Arrowhead pivoted to implementing FOMO tactics where we need to login to get the galactic war campaign rewards. A galactic war that we have no agency in after Arrowhead add the galactic war modifier. Thus making any thing like Malevelon Creek impossible to ever experience again.”Potential Helldiver: “At least I can use mods to improve my experience.”Helldiver: “In order to prevent the use of game-play mods like QoL, bugfixes, and cheat mods Arrowhead implement Easy Anti-Cheat and removed the a core code bridge that let modders operate the QoL and bugfix mods.”Potential Helldiver: “Well at least the cheaters were stopped.”
>>751553831Helldiver: “This community is now just a toxic shadow of its past self. When one member challenged Arrowhead devs to do a charity challenge where the member would donate 1000 dollars to a charity of Arrowheads choice if they could beat a D10 operation with his given load-outs. The member was harassed, doxxed, and was fired from his job as a result of people lying to his employer. There are death threats in their official discord towards some content creators who are critical of the game. The community is split into Glazedivers (community members who are Arrowheads yes men) and Crydivers/Whinedvers (community members who are critical of the game and Arrowhead; who also want the game to be the best version of itself). Arrowhead only listens to one of these groups and it’s not the ones who challenge Arrowheads vision for Helldivers 2.”Potential Helldiver: “Surely Arrowhead can change, so Helldivers 2 can have a long future and they can make more money.”Helldiver: “I thought the same thing once. For two years I was a Helldiver. For two years I watched how the game I loved changed for the worse. For two years I listened to Arrowheads lies and broken promises. For two years I watched Arrowhead take the game and community they had for granted. Arrowheads motto is ‘A game for everyone is a game for no one.’ Arrowhead has their vision for their game and it appears, to this Helldiver at least, that they intend to keep doing the same thing until the game shuts down or they do.”Potential Helldiver: “Oh.”
Why is blud waffling?
>"they literally found the code">"uhh look up the videos and google it yourself"all i found was GTA5 mount chiliad mystery-level delusions and no actual proof, so it's just another schizo
>>751553891>When one member challenged Arrowhead devs to do a charity challenge where the member would donate 1000 dollars to a charity of Arrowheads choice if they could beat a D10 operation with his given load-outs. The member was harassed, doxxed, and was fired from his job as a result of people lying to his employer.Shit, I forgot about this atrocity. What ever happened to that guy? Surely he received justice at some point...
>>751537656Every time I see people talking about this game, it's all crying that it's ruined now and the game is done for. I don't get it.
>>751554237he lost his job because of the doxxing and disappeared after that
>>751554295The game is constantly being ruined and swedes somehow manage to dig themselves deeper than anyone thought previously possibleWhat's there to understand, just your typical swedish development cycle
>>751554295Terminal online retards making mountains out of mole hills.Just played a mission and had fun. No reason for all this crying.
I look forward to GTA6 mercilessly killing this game.Like 75% of its existing playerbase is CODfags and dudebro gamers, the playercounts are gonna sink in a fucking instant.
>>751554065if you knew even half the bugs that have bizzarely existed in the game for months at a time, turrets randomly sweeping to nearby hostile targets while firing is extremely tame>you could swap to grenades while diving to throw one while out, causing your grenades to go negative, and then you could throw infinite grenades>this proudly patched a month later by forcing the “number of grenades” var to be unsigned>bug immediately reproduced the same way, except now grenades underflow to 2.1 billion>bile titans had a 50% chance to completely ignore headshot damage>corpses and collisions with corpses would send FRVs into orbit due to desynchronized physics boxes>AMR optic crosshair was off-center for months>SPEAR targeting was so schizo it could be blocked by particles, smoke, plants, and for no reason at all>airburst on release would immediately detonate out of the barrel (due to triggering on plants, terrain, corpses, friendlies, enemies, literally anything) and kill you instantly>railgun did 4x damage when playing via crossplay with at least one console player>fire/acid DOT did not work for anyone but the host for 6+ months>every update features some kind of CTD bug when doing mundane interactions>eruptor shrapnel would consistently explode in a cone facing south west which could be exploited to get instant kills on certain enemies when shooting them from certain angles>using chat or the map from the FRV Pintile would break all animations and ability to shoot until you got out>fleshmobs walked through 90% of buildings on release (now its only 30%)the list goes on
>>751554295Because the game was great fun when it launched, despite bugs and server problems. But ever since the devs keep finding ways to make the game worse and worse. Just when it seems like it has hit rock bottom, they find new ways to lower the bar and ruin it.
>>751554295The game wasn't made by freemasons or jews despite how the devs act so you're not allowed to like it.
helldiver fans are the whiniest fucking people ever
>>751554847i agree but i think the anti cheat is insanely evasive bullshitlike tf do they need kernal level anti cheat for this game? itsj ust pve trash
>>751554639there's so many goddamn things with this game. step wrong on a rock or slope while crouched or prone, you instantly get reset to standing for the smallest twitch. host de-sync where the enemies the clients are fighting operate differently from the host, and AH's solutions to some of these discrepancies (like rupture terminids always hitting the host on rising but clients could dodge them) was to enforce host standards poorly. just, randomly exploding while running around for absolutely zero reason besides people's theories that somehow the game "clipped you" into the ground and thought you should die for it, or that a massive host de-sync occurred and you actually got shot; they took away the (already inconsistent) marker for what killed you to disguise this instead of ever fixing it.
>>751554295>be Arrowhead>make fun (but very unfinished) game>people enjoy it and have fun with it>apparently this is a problem>Arrowhead didn't want people to have fun with it or play for longer than a week>devs spend the next 3 years trying their hardest to make everyone quit>or at least, quit long enough that Sony doesn't force them to undo the shit that made people leave
>>751554946GameGuard was also the same brand of dogshit. HD2 was always kernal level anti-cheat, they just swapped a shite outdated one for a new one that tends to be pissy at random.
>>751554946to punish cred duping chinks (doesn’t stop them anyway)enjoy the rootkit malware goyim
They haven't nerfed a gun since a year and a half, it's been non-stop player powercreep since then and retards still can't figure out why the game is less and less fun
Reminder to never ever buy nordic european video games, if they ever accidentally make a fun game they will spend years ensuring that the game is shit through updates later on. IT ALWAYS HAPPENS STOP FALLING FOR IT
>>751555038i guess but does my 7800x3d have to pay the price for cheaing chinks?
>>751554946At least EAC doesn't brick your CPU like gameguard. They should have used this to begin with.
>>751555207Yes goy
>>751538557They actually did buff it!It starts with one more clip (not one more capacity, called in sterilizers just have one more reserve clip than they did before), and the clouds are less effected by wind(?) Do you like?
>>751555193Sorry bro, I knew this from the start (I remember arguing with shills in the pre-launch threads) but my love for HD1 blinded me into buying on launchI don't have any other swedish franchise I care about so I can safely promise this won't happen again
>>751543528Unironically 10 is easier for bugs and bots.Bugs, they spawn so many heavies that eat the entire spawn budget so you never get swarmed, bots take an accuracy penalty for every difficulty rank they go up, and the jump from 9 to 10 is the goldilocks zone for just never getting hit unless you're actively trying to. No idea illuminate, I don't play illuminate, illuminate is for faggots
>>751554946Because you can steal (potential) money from the devsMind you, anyone who actually wanrs to do that can get around it easily because the devs are incompetent. But, that's the "why". This is a skinnerbox, and breaking open the cookie jar is, in abstract theory, a crime.
>Ghostship>Fatshark>Arrowheadthe unholy n*rdic dev trifecta
>>751555713Replace Ghostship with Starbreeze and I agreeNot that Ghostship isn't retarded too, but Starbreeze has more seniority
>>751554946>MUH KERNEL LEVEL ANTI-CHEAT BROLet's not pretend (you) care about kernel-anything.
>>751555038So it doesn't even fucking stop them? Anyone know the new hack for getting SC? No desire to come back to this shit and see all the things I can't play with.
>>751555946I am never installing the game again but im sure its on 7sins
>>751548572>>751548723The RR was fucking awful and speed loading made zero sense since launch and was only very recently fixed so it made more sense and used the weapon bearer's pack instead of the person speed loading. RR took multiple shots to kill chargers which spawned so frequently you needed Railgun on the helldive. The sentries were shit and had ridiculous recharge times. 500kg sucked dick and had an AoE so small and jank it frequently didn't even DAMAGE titans. Devs were clueless and thought it was fine, were told to try out harder difficulties and got gaped and raped (like in this webm).Balance was shit.
>>751554847>developer that proudly lie and antagonize its customersIts for a pretty good reason
sweden
>>751555245>brick your CPU just trust me bro
>>751542052>The majority of the weapons sandbox is useless at max difficulty>This is somehow a problem with the players and not the dogshit balance team
>>751547290Gloom is the exception because it eases off on the heavy armor shit, the biggest problem is the bugs that tunnel and hit you without giving you a chance to evade try bringing EATs to other D10 missions and deal with the 10 chargers and 4 bile titans that spawn per horde.
>>751555897you should, this is how gacha games get pwned and give russian hackers full access to your PC>BUT IT WOULD NEVER HAPPEN TO _MY_GAME_Sure buddy
>>751556030RR really sucked dick on launch.Bile Titans required 2 shots to the head and had a bug that made them invulnerable depending on animation-state.Charger Behemoths required 2 shots to the head and due to their head-shape often send the rocket off to the side.On top of that you didn't have level 6 destroyer upgrades so you only got 3 rockets per resupply meaning the supposed dedicated AT-option had absolutely horrendous ammo economy. It was simply better to just run around in circles waiting for orbitals and eagles to come off cooldown.
>>751556589That's not a thing.
>>751556642The reason they required 2 shots is even dumber: dragRR dealt just enough damage to 1 shot to the head but because drag affects projectiles as soon as you fire rockets lost 1 point of damage pretty much instantly making them deal like 699 damage when you needed 700 to one shot to the head.There's a surprising amount of systems working under the hood in this game, most are overkill and retarded for a coop horde shooterIf it says your weapon does 50 damage per shot it does not, and like 5 different factors mitigate that damage due to various reasons.
>>751548717>hundred of dollars worth of dlcThis also applies to edf
>>751556240>weapon isn't the literal best of the best therefore it's uselessThree years of this shit.
>>751554237He didn't even set a loadout for his, just them doing d10.That was a second person offering a second challenge.
>>751556853They can keep all the neat ballistics sim stuff just make the game not suck shit
>>751556853Having drag affect a fucking rocket is so pants on head retarded in the first place. They don't understand their own systems.
>>751556853Oh shit I remember you had to dive forward to guarantee one shots, that was buried in my mind lmao.
>>751546046Sex with Expie
>>751537656Arrowhead Game Studios: "Instead of making billions, we could make... *camera zooms in* millions...?"
>>751557151Woah its community manager Baskinator the furry faggot wine mom
>>751546046I didn't know you were that cunty.
>>751552392Focus on the friendslop faggots and tell the meatsweats to find at least one friend who will vouch for why they shouldn't be shot in the head.The world will be improved when everyone is friendly. By politeness or death.
>>751557143Yes drag was the reason for this because for some retarded reason diving forward added your momentum to the drag equation or whatever magic bullshit it did that helped mitigate drag on the rocket and maintain the 1 shot breakpoint over short distances.
>>751545885Cheating super credits ? Good, the warbond should be free
>>751554519>he doesn’t know
>>751537656>dev ignores bugs for years>modders make HD2s version of a script extender and vibe code a fix in like a day>AIIEEE ALL MODS ARE CHEATS SCORCH THE EARTH EAC NOW BAN EVERYONE WHO EVER USED A MOD>now even vanillafags can't play because devs fucked up the anti-cheat switch so hardArrowhead is where arrogance, incompetence, laziness and spite for the playerbase meets to create the worst developer in recent memory
>Hacked 50k super credits>Still don't feel like playingeh
>>751557641you're gonna get banned now....
>>751557683I regret nothingFuck sweden
>>751555713GSG fucked up with RC but have otherwise been fine. Nowhere mear the level of retardation from AH or fatshart.
>>751549409>that moment you get ragdolled with the 500kg in your hand
>>751557031Having bullet drop off (drag) apply to fucking high explosive anti tank shells that use shaped charges is far from neat. It is in fact quite fucking retarded, because the whole point of a hollow charge is to NOT be affected by distance traveled.
>>751558008Damn yeah they should remove all the ballistic sim and make all the guns hitscan because they made a shit AT launcher
>>751558104Why are you retarded?
>>751558104>hurr I'm retarded durr
Did they fix the punisher plasma? I think that was affected by drag too and it fires a fucking ball of plasma that explodes.
>>751558104I hope you're being retarded on purpose but yes a lot of headaches for both the developers and the community could have been solved by simpler ballistic and damage models without taking an ounce of enjoyment out of the game.Guns go brrrrrrrr
>>751545885>muh cheatersLmao this nigga is a bot
>>751556853>RR dealt just enough damage to 1 shot to the head but because drag affects projectiles as soon as you fire rockets lost 1 point of damage pretty much instantly making them deal like 699 damage when you needed 700 to one shot to the head.This was for all rockets at the time, not just RR.Because all of them (except for the Commando) had the exact same damage profile.
>>751557038Erm, no, you see, they were Swedish conscripts for two months and got to hold and fire a real gun once, they know what they're talking about
>>751554514Then why are you here, crying?
notice how all anyone ever talks about is gun balance, most retarded game community ever lead by youtube grifters milking them for views
>>751558645What're you gonna do? Piss on the evil youtube grifter's PFP and post it to Discord?
>The only thing people talk about in a third person shooter is the shooting! oh my god!You want us to talk about the dogshit driving model that STILL hasn't been fixed years after release and invisible bodies or bugged geometry can cause you to flip over and explode?
>>751558645Because that's the gameFollowing Joel's larp is retardedAnd there hasn't been a meaningful addition to anything else besides guns since the orbital napalm and that was, what, a year and some change ago?Oh, no, you're right, that headbutt emote was a fukkin game changer
>>751558645It's what you interact with most and what people are being expected to regularly pay for, versus enemies being a known quantity that only gets updated once every half a year if that.
>>751558645>Stop talking about the gameplay!most bafflingly stupid post I’ve seen all week
>>751558645You want me to talk about how retarded and painfully scripted the galactic war is?
>>751558645All the new enemies, new missions, and new biomes are gone.Maybe one will come back for three days every couple weeks. The roadmap to "major gameplay additions" was wrong four months ago, the "Strike force" is still investigating a toggle in the settings, and enhanced ship customization and roles are still so far out they probably haven't started them beyond whatever PR shat out onto a napkin to stall for time. What IS there to talk about regarding the rest of the experience? Invisible corpses? You wanna talk about invisible fucking corpses? You want to talk about the game's performance being shit since EAC?How about fleshmobs being Casper the fuck ghost two goddamn years later? How about the near coin flip odds of being able to finish a campaign without a crash to desktop, or bug that otherwise ends the mission? My favorite is the terminal you just can't interact with myself. You wanna talk about those instead?
>>751558645Really triggered the shitters huhNo reason to talk about anything else, the enemies are a fucking joke so there's not going to be any discussion about how to get better at the game
>>751558645>>751559161samenigger
Non-reproductive sex (no C-01 permit required) with helldivers.
>>751559161Always the same shit with you retards, you walk in and shit yourself then start giggling because everyone tells you to fuck off.
>>751546115It's a casual PvE shooter, man. Fags like you unironically believe that "scared the ai will quit the game" shit.
Reproductive sex (C-01 permit required) with helldivers.https://files.catbox.moe/wanxye.jpg
>add the bug caves as sub biomes you can find, like the colonies are>the artillery objective can spawn in the caves underground, rendering it useless, they never noticed this>fire damage doesnt work in the caves at all, they also never noticed this>they let this completely broken shit get pushed in an update that they obviously never tested themselves and then they went holiday
Non-reproductive sex (no C-01 permit required) with abdodivers.
>>751559381I still can't believe people defend the Hive Lord shit where you just spontaneously fail a mission because it can obliterate an objective with absolutely nothing you can do about it.
Reproductive sex (C-01 permit required) with abdodivers.
>>751559360How?They get no time for RnR for fucking.
>>751537656>what's wrong with helldivers 2?bad luck of getting a playerbase they didn't want followed by horrific community mismanagement that resulted in the community getting the impression that the correct response to any small complaint like "this new weapon is slightly underwhelming in my opinion" is to crash out if they want it fixedthey've made some genuine mistakes but desu i think the only thing AH could do to make the vocal playerbase happy is outright pivot to making it a game like warframe where you just grind fast missions insta-nuking everything and never face setbacks on top of no longer giving a fuck about modding or cheating
>>751559612Or just fix the goddamn game
Meanwhile the other older swedish coop game sequel had a fun game they released so utterly broken they had a patch that specifically addressed a bug which could crash the game so hard it uninstalled itself. They also played a DIFFERENT dev version from the release version so they didn't notice a flag which made players around 50% stronger than intended. When everyone spent dozens of hours getting used to that gameplay they found out and "nerfed" everything by fixing it. People we soo pissed they had ruined the game.Oh and you couldn't even complete the last map without a 100% guarantee crash.Then they released a good looking pile of shit called Darktide. Two to three years later it became serviceable.
>>751559692Defenders are acting like it's some obscure incredibly hard to crack puzzle how to make a horde shooter fun. It's amazing how many mental gymnastics they perform
>>751559465I hate the hive lord so fucking much manthe cave biome might not be so awful if that fucking thing wasnt there. swedish enemy design: massive 50,000 health worm that causes slowdowns effects in a 150 meter radius and all its attacks can insta kill you and it can travel underground where you cant hurt it and it can pop out anywhere which can send you ragdolling a kilometer into the sky and it can instantly destroy every piece of equipment and armor in the game and unless your entire squad is hyper focusing it for 10 full minutes you cant kill itfucking geniusI refuse to play any mission where that piece of shit shows up, I just wont do it. it's genuinely everything wrong with this game. swedish retards were so focused on their idea for this enemy that they didnt care if it was fun at all and they clearly didnt test how it played.
>>751559692man even if address the shit people care about right now like hellpod steering and strat bouncing it'll never be enough for everyone. Da Big Patch completely overhauled and rebalanced the game to be more solo casual friendly and people were back to complaining that AH hated fun in like two weekscommunity is simply pre-disposed to freaking out
>>751559735Honestly these swedish co-op devs are all kind of messes. HD1 was definitely janky in its own ways but at least it wasn't super ambitious. Then you look back to the first Magicka which Arrowhead started with and it's notoriously just an unstable, crash-happy mess that happened to launch their careers almost like a fluke off of the premise alone. They may be, what, 140 employees now? But these devs are like bloated indie studios that don't have any idea what they're doing still.
Non-reproductive sex (no C-01 permit required) with SEAF.
>>751559813they took a boss from the first game then just decided to make it a random fuck you encounter because they're retarded and don't understand how loadouts work
Reproductive sex (C-01 permit required) with SEAF.
>>751537656I usually enjoy it when I play it even If dont love some things in the game. I get the impression their fanbase is just really loud and obnoxious because its worked. Ive had random "ARROWHEAD IS COOKED HELLDIVERS 2 IS OVER" videos on my youtube play list on an off for years, and realized its the same channels that keep playing the game but keep talking about how terrible it is.Dont see how to fix that. Especially when every other person seems to have a different opinion about what needs fixed.
>>751554946There's no fun to be had when every other dude cheats and just screen-clears every second with whatever bullshit, PvE or not. No one plays to watch others press a "kill everything now" button over and over.
>>751560012
>generalfags enter the threadWelp thread's over. It's only downhill from here.
>>751560057ah yes the mythical cheater. the elusive creature that made a rushed, sloppy, gamebreaking change to EAC necessary yet nobody has ever met one
>>751559892>We can never satisfy everyone, so it's best if we don't satisfy anyone
>>751559892OkayBut have they tried fixing the game?
>>751560134>browns farming izzat in this very thread>ch-cheaters don't exist dudelol
>>751559979The boss in the first game also didn't have retard levels of health. Yeah they were all tanky but you could beat them in 5 minutes with a full squad playing casually, in under a minute with optimized loadouts. Not this fucking bullet sponge bullshit where being able to kill it feels more like an oversight than intended mechanic
>>751560134I ran into a cheater onceHe spawned 17k super credits, then killed me with the kick emote while I was rubbing my tummy. He was a nice dude.
>>751552546>swineOnly a muzzie or k*ke would use that as a pejorative
>>751560306oh it's the /vg/ thread schizo. Excuse me for humoring you.
>>751559892>Da Big Patch completely overhauled and rebalanced the game to be more solo casual friendly and people were back to complaining that AH hated fun in like two weeksThisYet again the slippery slope wasn't a fallacy
>>751537656Sw*dish developers are incapable of delivering a live service title when 360 days of their year are vacations.They're also a subrace of fucking morons that botch everything given the chance, with the latest being taking the funny propaganda flag theme out of their funny propaganda game because uhhhhhh a regional licensee across the world didn't work out so now everyone on the planet has their game patched to be worse than it was back on release
Rape bratty automaton girls.
>>751560512tits too big
>>751560134Because they game has never been without kernel level anti-cheat measures.
Rape terminid girls.
Rape helldivers.
>>751560657>pukedisgusting, should've been their piss instead
>>751560151honestly man it's different. i have never seen a community in a perpetual state of victimhood as the helldivers community
>>751560780When you show the only thing that results in you listening is mass review bombing and crying on social media then what do you expect to happen other than conditioning the playerbase to reviewbomb and cry over everything in hopes of getting noticed?
stop wanting to fuck the enemy
>>751560239did they>do widespread bugfixing >completely nuke having gameplay content in the superstore/warbonds>completely overhaul difficulty so "i want squad-based ball-crushing where i can fantasize about being disposable cannon fodder" and "i want to matchmake a into a solo public game after work so i can feel better after the 9-5" can co-exist instead of pretending they can have their cake and eat it too trying to balance one difficulty with different enemy counts and higher-difficulty subfactions that people will insist on playing anywayno
Rape illuminate girls.
The worst part is you won't ever get a game that "does HD2 better" because no one's actually interested in doing that but the Chinese, and it will probably be a nightmare when they do it.
Rape actual automatons.
>>751561087Eh, EDF comes close enough to scratch that itch.
>>751561087Crapcum could make Lost Planet 3 any day now and scoop up the “shoot swarms of giant bugs and pilot mechs with your bros” audience if they wanted
Rape actual terminids.
>>751561227Crapcunt can't even get rid of GFWL from Lost Planet 2
>>751561205EDF is just pure arcade insanity, which is fun in its own right, but HD2 is autistic enough to steep into MGSV and Ghost Recon territory yet can't figure out if it wants to be milsim lite or an arcadey horde shooter. I guess I really wouldn't mind a co-op game like this that was less horde-y and more tactical.
>>751559892>People complain about thing>Devs appease them>People still complainIt's time to realize "people" complaining is NOT necessarily the SAME PEOPLE complaining just because the complaints continue. Some are sated and stop while others find the change bad and go from silent to complaining. There is no universal "community" who all align together. Then there's devs fundamentally misunderstanding what the players actually wish for, trying to directly do what they say.Gearbox had a wonderful way to deal with how players gave feedback. https://www.polygon.com/gaming/2012/3/14/2861998/gearbox-borderlands-testing/>"The real wisdom of Solomon, however, came from user's complaints that Skag Gully, one of the game's earliest areas, had too many eponymous Skags. Players reported that they were running into too many clusters of enemies while moving through the Gully, offering feedback like, "this isn't fun, this is boring.">Gearbox, as a result, tripled the number of Skags in the area.>"All of a sudden, it wasn't a travel area that had too many enemies getting in the way," Armstrong said. "It was a combat area."
>>751561290any day now bro….trust the plan…
>>751550141NTA and idk about D10, but Mindless Masses gets notably easier going from 5 to 6 (or maybe 6 to 7; my install has been completely fucked for so long that I've forgotten) because the game has to trade Voteless slots out for Havesters, which drastically reduces the amount of actual bad guys on the field at any time. Low level Masses is every zombie slayer's dream game desu; trying to keep a group of SEAF together through hundreds and hundreds of zombies is pretty fun.
>>751561324Or 3rd option: I complain about the hive lord and they respond by nerfing its health a hundredfold and removing all armor. This wouldn't please me
The same couple of Helldivers youtubers are part of the same cabal. Every couple weeks they get together to stir up some fake controversy because the algo loves HD2 drama.Game is fun if you ignore the casuals and lying grifter faggots.
But most of allRape Sweden.
>>751561382harvesters are the single unit the illuminate has that can push you away from brainless splash damage CC so adding harvesters to the mix does actually make a difference
>>751561512>Sweden is just a acronym for SuperWhite-Eden
>>751561506Devs are massive retard faggots, the glazers are massive retards, the whiners are massive faggots, and the ecelebs are retards. Everything surrounding this game is retarded>>751561205Earth dlc force sucks and only gets a pass because it was made in japan
>>751561751filtered
>still no cross-save/progI hope all of Arrowhead kills themselves in the most painful way possible
>>751556030After that stream the devs hid the icon on the UI that showed you what difficulty you were playing on.
>try to make a game about comically incompetent special forces unit that die in the billions>show the same spec ops dudes being able to use any weapon system given to them with peak efficiency, preform tactical reloads, and make tactical callouts all while under pressure Most schizophrenic approach to game design/lore I've ever seen.
>>751556853The snipers have aggressive drag too. The best way to use the AMR is to noscope at close range otherwise you can't one shot heavies. Same game where the devs refuse to make changes based on "realism" btw.
>>751562179At this point I'm convinced something got lost in translation and "grunt" in swedish means "someone who serves in the army" without any indication of their skill or rank
>>751562179I don't think even they know if they want grunt fantasy comedy or spec-ops action. You die from a light breeze, have random ragdoll shit, turrets and SEAF trying to kill you in crossfire or run into poogas as they die horribly and cause you to get blown up for it, and so many little dumb silly things. And yet one player who knows what they're doing can take on an entire army, strike and run, and get out in one piece with zero deaths if they're competent and don't get lolfucked by the RNG comedy mechanics.
>>751559418pretty sure ive made a couple of the armors in the pic
>>751561950What? How? Isn't the ENTIRE POINT of the account link thing to have a shared account with shared progress?
>>751562459Again, Swedes. That is all.
>>751562459No. It was just so Sony could track who's playing on Steam and call them Sony players.
>>751562179gameplay concessions my nigga. they did it through other balancing options but they were made to change all of it. "rundivers" is you getting routed
>>751562179>your average diver has a KD of like 50:1 >this is being actively dragged down by fucksticks killing each other on spawn while dicking around >the K:D of divers taking this shit seriously is actually way higher>THAT is being dragged down by hostile RNGArrowhead probably should have figured out some kind of other narrative throughline, or just gone all in on things being ridiculous and over the top. There's not really an easy way to sell Divers being expendable cannon fodder when you can drop four of them on a bot planet and spontaneously generate enough scrap metal to build five identical copies of Chicago.
>>751537656Do people get banned for giving themselves super credits now? Farming that shit is retarded as fuck, I could never do that.
I'm told, in a game with servers by definition as a live service game with regular updates, they can miss values manipulation of the one thing that's worth having on *their* servers, premium currency amount, simply appearing by the hundreds. Hilarious shit, I tell you.
>>751562376they try to lean into that because they're that incompetent and fail even level 6 missionshd1 it was apparent that helldivers are actual elite veterans, coordinating fire in key locations to open defenses wide open for regular soldiers to move in after but between the dev's own incompetency and their desire for>le heccin fascism satirebullshit they pretend that its even remotely feasible for helldivers to be completely expendable retards instead of dangerously expendable airborne
>>751562508That's so incredibly jewish I'm speechless. Is this by the same jew who claims horizon zero dawn definitely is a commercial giant that everyone played?
>>751537656They dont let you change the color of your armor or ship liie warframe does
>>751537656The paywall. Getting 0 medal rewards feels bad. The game isn't free 2 play, I'm not paying a macrotransaction for mystery items that maybe has 1 good thing.The "crafting" system is also bad. Once you need the highest tier resource you need to play on higher difficulty and I don't want to do that. Especially since I don't have all the paywalled items.
>>751562391what armors will you make next?
i honestly think this game is too popular. the amount of effort put into fan content is too much
>>751562565Earlier we ran a d10 bots with three stim pistols and never dipped under 15 reinforcements in /lobby/, and that was we two people playing light and eating shit stupidly >>751562627What was hd1 like then? All I remember is media literacy spam when people pointed out the intro suburbs SHITS on 99% of cities in the world.
I think they're just another perfect case of devs making a fun game and then starting to hate their players, and very poor leadership that'd be able to just sit down, tell the retards to shut the fuck up, and follow a planif there's 6 different captains on the boat and they all want to go a different direction, and every six months or so they get spanked by sony to start getting their shit together for a couple months before they go back to being retarded, and ad vitamI had a lot of fun with the game for a bit but then each update was obviously spreading the design thinner and thinner, for example:what's the point of melee?what's the point of shotguns?what's the point in half the weapons and upgrades?balance can't be perfect, but this wasn't even balance in the first place, this was just a 'oh that'd be cool let's add that' and then a week later they forget about it and don't even think about implementing the system further, I'd expect the same design from some ADHD vibeslopper honestly
it's funny how we talk about arrowhead getting "the wrong playerbase" and part of that IS people wanting a casual pubbie horde shooter where they don't need to think about anything elsebut part of that is people who want a completely unironic HFY space opera and are trying to wring it from one of the most retarded sci-fi settings out therethe death of mass effect was a disaster for our society
>>751562391How to learn modelling, I want to make fetish models too
>>751561894I suppose I am filtered by shitty games. Sandlot are a bunch of kikes
>>751562780>What was hd1 like then?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6w0ZTECB9oStuff like mgs and railguns were just primary weapons instead of support call ins
>>751562780>the intro suburbs SHITS on 99% of cities in the world.you do not genuinely believe that HOA heaven covering the entire planet is more desirable than a rough and multifaceted city nigga. that is bug mentality
>>751562702>armor customization muh bacon flavored apples doe
>>751562931No, I mean I'd hang myself, but cleanliness and security wise? Absolutely. Where I am the capital is a tagged monster that smells of piss and where if you want to go anywhere but to/from the center you need 1h of transports that constantly have service interruptions.
>>751562931>that is bug mentalityThat's rich, coming from you, communist insect. Hide behind your foul gloom while you can. Liberty's light is coming.
Honestly it would be funnier if all the stuff super earth says is completely true but just sounds extremely propagandist
>>751563091Including the part about terminids and the lemons?
>>751562510holy fucking cope
I hate fighting bugs so much. Why are there so many fucking chargers they spawn like 5 at a time why are bugs more armored than robots why do they disable the map on every single bug planet
>>751563175>bro this game fucking sucks they hate fun i'm just dying on loop forever i can't do anythingwe rebalanced the game so this happens a lot less and you don't need to rely on teammates as much to avoid it>bro wtf they act like you're supposed to be expendable cannon fodder but I can just kill everything by myself lolmake it make sense
>>751563229heavy spam and not letting you see shit is the only way AH knows to make things more difficultthat, ragdoll spam and instagibs
>>751562571You. You can inject 2000 per hour as that's the hard limit. Just leave the game afk for the night and buy everything lol
>>751562931>wanting to live in a nice suburb is le bad>you should instead want to live in an urban shithole with gangs and crackheads everywhere
>>751563229Because clearly, invincible AT-check armored robots wouldn't be fun to fight.That's why charger buts are not AT checks. BTs? Fuck you. Durable memes? Lmao fuck you. Leg meta? HOW DARE YOU INSOLENT INSECT A THOUSAND YEARS OF SWEDISH ANCESTRAL RAGE UPON YOU
>>751563229chargers are the literal only thing that lets bugs overwhelm u so wcyd
>>751562571No, the ban wave is supposedly coming with the december updateIf AH is dumb enough to go ahead and ban a large part of the remaining PC playerbase.Which they probably are.
>>751563294>Heavy spamMy dude. It's limited to 3 with extra spawn weighting so you never ever see more than 5 heavies at all unless you fucking stand in a titan hole for 15 mins. They also all die to 1 fucking shot from any AT gun
>>751547969I've seen the video myself. It's pretty incredibly vile. Dude will be dodging with no enemies in sight and the turret spins back around to aim at them - not shoot, but clearly aim with an intention of friendly firing.I actually do enjoy the game as a pick up and go shooter but that's lack of better options since something it does right is the time from entry to combat. Space marine 2 takes ass-loads time on an NVME with 32GB Ram and an 9800 X3d while it's pretty quick, minute or so between joining a lobby and getting to the combat. The game has succeeded in spite of the devs rather than because. It's by the grace of them learning (temporarily) their mistakes from the first year that they didn't die in the cradle with their demented adversarial DMing of nerfing everything.They're Swedish. Swedes are hard-coded to be the most smug self-righteous pricks in Western civilization.
>>751542052The problem is they're shit at scaling the difficulty too. In most cases, if you have a team that moderately knows what they're doing anything below 9 isn't really a challenge to clear.
>>751563764while it's pretty quick - helldivers is I mean.>>751563091The nature of things in Helldivers 2 makes any satire pointless when it really is>Fight off squids or you get turned into flesh-vat horrors>Fight off bots or you get lobotomized and turned into cybersoldiers like those quake 2 stroggs>Fight off bugs or you get eaten>>751563789Honestly even 9 is easy easy unless you get a really bad RNG diceroll of what spawns IE 10 Voxes or Bts back to back, and I'd not even count that as BTs are pretty managable now.
>>751556240>the majority of the weapon sandbox is useless at max difficultylight pen is literally fine man good godfine on bugsactually just shoot heads on botsfine on illuminate "it doesn't compete with the machine gun against medium armor" doesn't mean "bad gun"
I dropped it cause it was a tedious grind. You had to get those green dot materials. I forgot what they were called but thats how you upgraded your shit i think.
>>751542052Honestly above 7 all difficulties should give the same sample rewards. By adding more super sample rewards players feel forced to take the highest difficulty to receive the most rewards. When the higher difficulties should just be for fun anyway.
>>751556240Can you point me at a game where players dont largely optimize for efficiency on the highest difficulty?
>>751564131Tiddly-winks?
>>751563915the joke is that super earth tried to consume all three factions (borgs for slave labor, illuminate for tech, bugs for oil) and so they're doing the same shit to earth in return in revenge and to replenish their numberslike if halo opened with a background where the UNSC had spend hundreds of years enslaving the covenant races the emotional melodrama wouldn't hit the same
>>751542052>>751563789That's also because ship modules are gated by samples, which really only spawn meaningfully at d9. It took me hundred+hours, mostly picking up my own samples, which is something no average gamer wants to do just to unlock shit which doesn't even work, but also some incredibly core upgrades like the resupply one. It used to be super samples were d7+ only, when heavies weren't a joke with 10 secondaries and throwables to one shot them.Also, this game will loss spiral because it has no director to speak off. If you start slacking on cleaning up a breach or drop, the next one come up on your ass without waiting. Patrols keep spawning up your ass while you fight. This heavily disincentivize meme loadouts because if one teammate is useless, and you have no AT, the mission can just spiral out, but most people play pubs. Or are just, y'know terrible at the game, or console players, or both.
>>751563285>bro you're a worthless cannon fodder. You're so worthless you get a private warship, all the equipment of our galactic empire at your disposal including the experimental ones, complete freedom of operation and deployment and are dropped into heavily occupied hostile territories as a small squad of 4 or less people>but you're just a regular joe shmoe bro, you're not special
>>751564395>you get a private warshipyou mean your democracy officer gets a warship filled with disposable dudes who have the same equipment it's political theater or something but the intent is that you're not important or special
>>751564131Dark Souls
>>751564395If I remember right the Democracy Officer and Ship Master are the people actually running the show, the Helldiver is just directing and being a drop point for their operations. After all, they churn through Helldivers a dime a dozen, who all each walk the same gear and halls you do. (You) aren't supposed to be the hero when every death is another new body to the mix who coincidentally just has your equipment and selections.The problem is most people don't give a fuck for the meta commentary and just act like it's extra lives anyway.
any mods to replace the mutts on the ship so I dont have to look at their brown faces every time I get back to ship
>>751537656Isn't Helldivers a purely PvE game? Why the fuck are people talking about BALANCE? In a glorified single player game? What balance do you need to fix? Why would you need to nerf things? kek
>>75154837080 dmg is fair and balanced. Rapha said so :-^)
>>751562780>What was hd1 like then?The only other humans in missions were civilians you had to evacuate, no SEAF to speak ofHelldivers 1 actually was far better as a grunt fantasy because death was more common without having to rely on random bullshit deaths and respawns were infinite, balanced by each helldivers having their respawn beacon on a cooldown and no automatic resupply - if everyone dies, it's over. While dying more than the HD2 alloted 20 deaths was rare, there wasn't anything stopping you from dying 100 times on a mission other than contributing less to the galactic war scoreIt was also better as a parody because all the problems SE had were caused by it being dicks in recent memory, not the 100 years later stuff in HD2 that just muddies the water with "sins of the father" bullshit
>>751564918>hacks all of ur games so that you do one million damage on every attack and can take nonehave fun
>>751537656Nothing. It is better than when it launched. People who make a single game their job tend to hate the game they play. And that is almost all of what plays the game still. If you just check it out for a few weeks once or twice a year it is great.
>>751564547Dark Souls has 1 difficulty mode and it’s players dick wave at each other with challenge runs they make up to show how gud they are.
>>751565145>If you don't play a game it's greatThe most /v/ post in the thread
>>751565242So I was right.
>>751565387 Not really, those masochists intentionally optimize the game for more difficulty rather then less of it.
>>751565370I have 250 hours. That's enough. I come back to it when there is an interesting season/content. Just like Darktide, Warframe and any other service based game. Only fucking lunatics sit around and hyper fixate on a single game for years at a time.
>>751565557Which means I was right. It's a game where players don't optimise for efficiency on the highest difficulty.
>>751565765>only lunatics play video games
>>751564095>>751564287I agree the sample balance sucks and you should be able to convert commons into rares into super rares. The more important issue in my opinion is how sample hunting is the opposite of how most people want to play. They want to 100% objectives and get out asap, any time you spend collecting commons or rares is wasted time.>This heavily disincentivize meme loadouts because if one teammate is useless, and you have no AT, the mission can just spiral out, but most people play pubsMost people run jack of all trades loadouts for this exact reason. Then complain they can't one shot every enemy in the game from chaff to bosses just by looking at them for a fraction of a second. God forbid you run an AT loadout and stick with someone, that means the completion rate is 25% longer and worse, a few more enemies spawn which requires a few extra seconds of shooting instead of sprinting across the map ignoring everything.The ideal experience for most helldivers is a map with no enemies, instant spawn on the objective radar, all objectives laid out in a big optimal circle, and a team of 3 bots that never talk and instant load into the next mission.
>>751565898Anon I think you might have stumbled upon a real revelation there.
>>751565998You never played the first game. D15 was borderline impossible and let you flex the most op shit you had.
>>751566194Yes I'm talking about helldivers 2 in the helldivers 2 thread
>>751565998The garbage spawn system undermining their own balance and creating the rundiving meta is by far the most cancerous part of the game. Even Alexus promoted this in D9 while the other devs/cms (who didn't play the fucking game) called the players whinerssee>>751556030
>>751565998I just played d7-d8 depending on faction so I can handle anything alone in pubs, but that's a really sad state of affair. >>751566413Which is incredibly stupid because running away just makes things worse. Or, smoke lmao>Yes, I designed this game to not use its weapons, how could you tell?
>>751566413balance changed since launch ofc but the core "patrols and reinforcements" system still sucksSTILL dealing with empty evacs every other match btw
>500kg is shitAlways was. Like you, r/helldivers2 troons. OPS was always better.
It pisses me off so much how they're fucking with people's ability to mod the game.I didn't use mods to make the minigun shoot leveller projectiles, spawn in a dozen tanks, alter weapon/armor stats or cheat in super credits.I used mods that made navigating the armory easier: it added a search box and you could type shit in it and it would look for matches in the item's name, description or armor passive description and name. It was fucking great.I used a transmog mod so my helldiver can look how i want and use the passives that I want.Shit like fixing drop pod steering.Or stratagem bouncing off flat surfaces.A mod that made your drop pod spawn closer to where you were called in.Mods that made turrets and SEAF troopers slightly smarter so they wouldn't teamkill your ass constantly. Fuck you LMG SEAF guy, you waste your rocked on dumb shit and then 180 no scope my ass.A mod that gave you more intel on what types of enemies you'd meet before dropping on a planet.A mod that added more useful info on your hud like what squad bonuses your team is running, what passives they have, fire mode indicators and so on.I have over 650 hours in this fucking game and I have yet to run into even ONE(!!!) dude I thought was cheating.It's a fucking PVE game, I don't give a single flying fuck if some dude's using a mod that let's him play in first person mode all the time or whatever else as long as he's not fucking with me. And if I see him fucking with me I'll just kick and block him.Arrowhead are fucking retarded.
>>751537656>What's wrong with Helldivers 2?Game-bresking bugs, and a game for everyone is a game for no one.
>>751556992Meta kills every game, it killed warframe too.
>>751566921>All those cheats and hacks Listen, chud. I know you are media illiterate but this is a grunt fantasy game. You are supposed to struggle like a grunt. Urgh someone else explain to this maga terrorist before I Charlie Kirk it
>>751566586if you actually successfully disengage with smoke it's fine lol
>>751562932Aesthetics are the most important part of any charichter customisation.
>>751542052difficulty 10 should be the top difficulty where balancing matterslevel 11 should be straight unfair towards the player
>>751562931>living on a private property with open land up to your fence is what bugs do>living in a concrete hive is what real humans doYou are lost in the sauce.
>>751562932They've been bullshitting since the moment they made that comment. Why does an armor loaded up with magazines get better grenade throws, while some chinese wuxia bullshit year of the horse crap gets extra magazines?
>>751567093> it killed warframe too.qrd? last time playing it i was able to build a good variety of different frames and weapons while still able to clear missions
>>751566921>A mod that made your drop pod spawn closer to where you were called in.I still dont know why they fucking changed this. You spawn in like two blocks from the ball now; I've had squaddies chuck me away from the swarm only for me to fall in fucking BEHIND THEM.
>>751567543His riven (theoretical) value dropped from 15000 platinum to 50 platinum so he's mad
>>751567438Yes, living in little pre-determined spots with no right to make it your own is what a hive insect does
>>751547972I miss Magicka so much dude
>>751548386it doesnt look like absolute trash
>>751549704I legit never once even saw a cheater
>>751547972Was magicka 2 good?I didn't hear great things.
>>751567628You know those defense missions where you have to defend 3 generators to buy enough time for 8 rockets to launch?I've had instances where I died and after I get called in on a respawn beacon in the middle of the complex my drop pod started its descent on the other side of the surrounding walls and because of the fucking drop pod steering lock I couldn't land it inside the complexSo after I drop in not only is there the entirety of the enemy zerg between me and my team that I have to run through there's also the defenses we have set up so I also have to get passed turret fire, mortars, mine fields etc.And then these Swedish fucks have the gall to say they've assembled a task force after the Devoid of Liberty event a mopnth or two back to look into these things.MOTHERFUCKER:... you acknowledged these issues 2 fucking years ago!What the fuck do you mean you're looking into it NOW!?
>>751568203R u retarded?There is nothing to "look into" they set the blocks to stop players getting onto terrain objects and it's working as intended.
>>751565026But that has nothing to do with balance or nerfing items, I understand that hackers are a real issue and companies always are playing a game of cat and mouse with them, that's completely fine and logical
It's really impressive just how fucking lazy Arrowhead is. Do they do anything at all in the office? They put together a task force, yes a bona fide task force, to fix bugs that modders had already fixed, and expected it to take a few months. How are people still putting up with their bullshit?
Reminder that the cheating crackdown was caused by /hdg/ brownoids gloating and spamming SC hack tutorials on reddit
>>751568203"We're looking into it," is corpo for "We're hoping you'll forget, cause we ain't doing shit."
>>751542052Light pen is fantastic on D10 though.
>>751562376"Grunt fantasy" was just code for "jank we won't fix". Any time something behaves strangely, like it was coded by an intern, that's "grunt fantasy"
>>751537656They are actually the most inept and delusional devs I have ever seen.The playerbase gives them reasonable, rational suggestions and they take that as an insult.There have been periods of times in this game where alt-tabbing crashed your game and it took a MONTH to fixThe very first year the devs actively used a usage chart and every patch they would nerf the top two things without even thinking about it or buffing underperforming weapons
>drop in>game locks my hellpod into those little square lava baths too high to vault out of>dieEbin
>>751568662No, but I'm pretty sure you are retarded since I literally said they acknowledged it's a problem.
>>751567093Time gated rng grind is meta?
>>751570207>they acknowledged it's a problemThey said this to appease people, they're unlikely to ACTUALLY fix it.At best, they'll loosen it a little so you can steer a bit and they can go "see it's fixed". At worst, they'll just keep deflecting until everyone complaining about it leaves.
>>751570207No son. You are the retard for believing AH. You can screen cap this post and look at it next November when nothing has been fixed lol
>>751570207You mean, they snidely mocked players for having the gall to tell them something is unfun horseshit nobody likes, and *said* they would look into it given 6 to 12 calendar months to a deafening silence.
Why is this some common for swedish devs?
>>751537656>What's wrong with Helldivers 2?Sony
>>751537656Every big game company absolutely rapes their multiplayer games to the point of irrepair. Give me ONE example where that isn't the case.
>>751567728So a city then
>>751568117Take Magicka 1, but make it prettier but with even more jank and occasional crashes. In hindsight, it should've been clear that AH likes their games to be random team killing bullshit games where success is more of a suggestion than a guarantee.
>>751570583its arrowhead too
>>751569490It's fantastic until the game decides 6 armored assholes are going to conga line out of a breach and your "fantastic" light pen starts tickling their shins.Light pen is fine for deleting chaff, nobody disputes that. The problem is D10 is schizophrenic and can go from trash mob lawnmower simulator to "hope someone brought actual answers" in about 3 seconds.
>>751537656Sony has gta coming up. They think the retarded fags who buy that game will naturally play and migrate to their games once their done with it. All they care about is microtransaction money. It's silly when you realize both marathon and helldivers have a much larger playerbase and bulk of sales on pc.
>>751537656That's what you get for buying an early access game.
>>751571634You know what's odd about all this? Vermintide 1/2 you could get away with having a teammate with a weapon that was great at controlling or clearing hordes of rats, so long as they kept a weapon on hand to deal with the armored targets or you had a different teammate who had a primary weapon that could kill them reliably as well. HD2 you kind of have to have everyone bring their own horde clear, AT solution, and medium/elite removal because hoping that someone else will compensate your lack of AT or medium pen is asking for trouble. Or that's just a regular problem with any multiplayer game, made worse by AH and their ass backwards reasoning.
>>751537656Pic is whats wrong with it retard, thanks for the thread.
>>751567973Laugh at this fucking retard with dogshit taste
>>751548370/thread
>>751571869if the game was locked to the same screen like the first one it would work. But they didn't update their design philosophy at all to adjust to the different nature of a third person over the shoulder shooter where each player is technically on a team, but in reality are four individuals. It's a cooperative game with no reason to cooperate, just look at how they handled team loading for ages
>>751571869>HD2 you kind of have to have everyone bring their own horde clear, AT solution, and medium/elite removal because hoping that someone else will compensate your lack of AT or medium pen is asking for trouble. Or that's just a regular problem with any multiplayer game, made worse by AH and their ass backwards reasoning.This is because Vermintide is much better at keeping the team together compared to helldivers where people are going to be all over the place. Shit like teamwork reloading is borderline useless outside of extremely small missions because nobody is moving as a group, everyone is just doing their own thing because it's far too chaotic and the maps are so big. Hell it's faster to have everyone seperate to do seperate shit.
>>751537656Arrowhead is genuinely incompetent at coding.They literally can't make anything in the engine HD2 runs on.Everything releases broken. The game runs like shit. It took them YEARS to learn that optimizing the game for 3 people who still use HDDs at the expense of having 4x the drive space wasn't smart (and it ultimately didn't really impact HDDs at all). There's not actually that many more mission types than from launch. It takes them FOREVER to fucking do ANYTHING with any of the half-baked mechanics they release (remember that secondaries and support weapons were supposed to get attachments as well). AH is just flat out fucking incompetent.
>>751571869because vermintide is purely>unarmored chaff>heavily armored uncommon (has a weakspot still)with some rpg mechanics to soften weaknesses while also being a l4d clone so your team has to stay together unless you're actually godhd2 doesn't actually have that much skill expression
>>751572532At launch it did>Charger leg shotsremoved>Hulk limb shotsremoved>Hulk eye shotsnerfed>Bile head shotsnerfed>Devastator limb shotsbro these fuckers now aimbot you through stagger and walls at any range>Warpship hatch killnerfed>SEAF SAMnerfed>Bug call in wind up animationremoved>HMG 0 ERGO 1.5 recoil/swaydurability damage nerfed because people who aim could kill things with it
>>751562931>rough and multifaceted cityI would rather die than have to live one day in such a hellhole.
>>751537656Nothing really. I mean it's a bit janky in places but it's always been that way.Modders are just salty that the update broke their mods, as if that's not a regular occurrence in every single game that has mods.
>>751552334if anything it makes it worseit dangles the p2w option above your headif you had to outright buy it like HD1 at least you can say they're charging a fair price, i.e. what people want to pay to access the weapons. with this system you have the added incentive to pay to skip the grind.
>>751572363Not only that, they are completely devoid of creativity or imagination. They have been churning the same vat of shit since launch, and hide it behind a pinballing balancing strategy, then make this big show that the balancing is a really big job, takes a lot of time and resources to flick some stats around. The game is just a vehicle to sell slight variations of gear you already have via warbond at this point.
>>751564793https://www.nexusmods.com/helldivers2/mods/15313Do you mind anime girls?I could never go back to having mutts on my ship.
>>751571179so a tightly controlled suburb then
>>751573506At least I have a house instead of a shitty apartment that I don’t even own and won’t get robbed by niggers
>>751573412But that's the worst part of it, you're not skipping any grind. You're buying the privilege to start grinding medals to unlock all the new items in the warbond. You're paying for another layer of grind every time one comes out. The only people that can use this shit day one are those faggot streamers and what not that AH gave out the content to first to showcase it.
>>751574701Most items are also shit in any given warbond you're lucky if 2 unlocks are actually useful and not meme tier
>>751537656Practically nothing besides for lack of cosmetic freedom and landing pod steeringI don't know why people cry so much about this game, beside the initial Playstation login forcing that never passed, every drama relating this game has been an utter joke.Sure the devs are incompetent, but there's zero reason to me why this game gets so much shit.Game runs better than ever for me, game takes less space than at launch, game has more options, content and build variety than ever before, yet people still whine because they can't cheat anymore, or they're not allowed to solo max difficulty without some difficulty.I don't get it, this game was NEVER fun at max difficulty, why do autists insist on wanting to play solely at that challenge?It's literally all metafaggotry nowNobody uses heavy armor, it's always light armor zoomie faggots who just want to one tap an objective and scram before the first enemy dropship or spawn triggers.It's like the devs SPECIFICALLY made a "steallth" gamemode for those type of players, yet they still want the entire game to be played that wayThe only complaint I personally have is the lack of stratagem launcher on mechs, that's all I can think of that would truly truly be game changingAnything else would just be cosmetic freedom (IE picking armor based on looks, not passives, which should not be difficult to implement)
>>751576794
The actual problem of this game is that is live serviceThis is a pachinko game with procedural everything, there's no reason for it to be live service and Deep Rock Galactic does it just fine being a client-server game that you can even play offline with some modsAll the bad things about H2, are the justification for it being live service."Oh it has to be live service so we can do/add X" and that X is why it's a bad game
>>751577903H2 as it exists today with 20 or so missions as a single player game would be kinda of shit
>>751578023that's not my problemIts kinda like the Warframe situation, the actual game is singleplayer slop that you would never play on your ownBut the live service is the glue that keeps it togetherYou are basically playing the live service, not playing the game
>>751578310Not really an argument because Warframe allows mods and is timegated and is free* and has a progression story.Hd2 is $40 + $300 or 500hr grind doing the same dozen missions over and over with no story at all and a manager who is supposed to do the story always fucks it up by editing hidden values to get what he wants
>>751579075well if i'm wrong and you are wrong lets agree that we are both gay and just schedule a day for chilling and playing games and maybe fuckingDoes Monday sounds good to you? I have Monday cleared
>>751558610This mindset happens far more often than you think in Scandinavian countries. They're really that far up their own asses.
>>751542052So all the bugs just magically disappear on low difficulty?
>>751552060But it quite literally scales with difficulty. Backwards.
>>751537656Chuds don't understand that this is a satire of fascism
>>751547826Don't forget how they trust the client on obtaining samples and super credits instead of having real servers. Took them 2 years to implement a check that says "Hmmm I don't think you actually got 1000 credits and 500 samples on that mission"Basic sanity checks are too much and they have the audacity to reach for the kernel anti-cheat. At least cover your asses before you start using the intrusive stuff
>>751537983Why would you even try to balance a PVE game?
Helldivers would be instantly destroyed by an even slightly competent clone so it's really annoying no one is doing it. Just make more shooters with airdrop/call in mechanics. Hell, bring back mercenaries.
>>751580851The worst part is that they're calling everything with a semi open map a helldivers clone now.I saw retards call horde siege a helldivers clone.
They listened to the retards that wanted a power fantasy instead of sticking to a concrete idea. Now the power fantasy redditors realized they could cry and changes would be made according to their whims. So now any time the devs try something that goes against thr redditors will, they get autistic meltdowns and review bombs saying "NOOOOOO I DIDNT WANT THIS!!!"
>>751580851I thought there is a game almost like it already? Released around the same time.
>>751580851I guess its lucky for them a "slightly competent clone" is actually extremely hard to make.
>>751581471I last played December 2024 and tried again last weekend and it felt like it had gotten a bit easier. Less found super credits though so the paywall is even more of an issue, which is why I stopped playing in the first place.Zero progression (no unlocks) made it so you just had the same matches over and over again, and you got annoyed over not being allowed to try the new strategems and gear unless you add another 20% to what I already paid for the game (repeat forever until I paid 1000% of the game cost).
>>751571869Because Vermtide has multiple mechanics specifically there to punish players for not sticking with the team, even if the team are bots. Helldivers 2 not only doesnt but its able to just be played solo.
>>751581548Depends on your definition of "like". You could argue every extraction shooter is "like" helldivers. I know several people that bounce back and forth between helldivers and starship troopers even if I find the games very different in every way I care about, for example.
>>751581818Last year they made a big balance sweep that overall made the game easier, made enemies squishier and/or weapons overall stronger. They mostly made up the difference by having new enemies that can be trickier to deal with. But especially on lower difficulties its not hard to be a one man million bug blender.
I hate we just memory holed the fact they gutted spawn rates in the name of performance.A BRICKS bug mission at launch was basically a completely different game compared to now.Everything is tied to this in one way or another and that's why the game is currently shit.
>>751581818It's a lot fucking easier. Almost nothing spawns on d10 but you go to d7 and suddenly a ton of shit will spawn.
>>751581994I read that they also plugged the hole that allowed players to get an acceptable about of super credits without paying real money.
>>751545885Cheating in a PvE game? Are you the retarded?
>>751537656Isn't the game completely overrun with paid battle passes now?
>>751558104retard
>participate in a dynamic war that players decide>Becomes incredibly obvious that it's all scripted and nothing you do matters
>>751582776$265 USD worth of them, most of them are full of chaff and cosmetics with 1 actually good weapon. The strength of the one good item has only gone up over time, but the overall value has only gone down in the same way.
>>751542052This. 100%
>>751550723https://www.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/comments/1slpk7m/psa_definitive_proof_that_sentries_intentionally/>inb4 redditkill yourself
>>751539285>as people found code confirming that turrets and drones do indeed just target the player occasionallyOne of the main reason why I dropped this piece of shit game other than update bloat. Couldn't get shit done because I kept getting one shotted without warning by some cannon across the map. Fuck these faggots
>>751583115Now watch that faggot move goalposts in order to defend this shit game
>>751537656Something is absolutely in the water with Swedish dev studios. Arrowhead, Mojang, Fat Shark, Overkill, DICE, and so on. Every fucking time with these guys.
>>751583115I don't see any lines of code in that video
>>751583237Holy shit you really are retarded. Completely serious, you SHOULD actually kill yourself.
>>751553771>>751553675Oh I'm trans btw forget to mention that but yeah don't talk out of your ass next time.
>>751583302No wait, you're a Tranny? Kill yourself.
>>751583296you first. What do you fucking expect the reaction will be from posting shit from plebbit?
>>751583378How are you shoulders from moving the goalposts you fucking troon. I hope your mother gets cancer, dumb faggot. Helldivers is a shit game made by shit people for shit people. kys.
>playing a coop game outside of l4d2
People say grunt fantasy is ruining Helldivers but I like grunt fantasy
>>751548225>>751550635she should be flat
>>751580851There's a Girls Frontline game announced for 2028 that seems heavily HD2 inspired.
>>751537656spite fueled swiggers
>>751584145You should be shot.
