If I deadass have never played Ocarina of Time ONCE in my life, which version would you recommend for a first playthrough?The crusty OG, the 3DS remake, or the Switch 2 remake?
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>>7515718463DS emulated for higher fidelity. ORNative PC port with some HD mods.
>>751571846The modern remake is perfectly fine despite all the kvetching from /v/. It plays, looks, and sounds great. But if you really want the older experience, choose the 3DS version over the original. Most N64 games aged like rotten milk.
>>751571846just play all of them starting from n64
>>751571846>If I deadass have never played Ocarina of Time ONCE in my life, which version would you recommend for a first playthrough?The N64 original, NTSC version 1.0,played through either the original console + CRT.If that's not an option, then the Ship Of Harkinian PC port is the way to go.You can keep things 100% vanilla and authentic, including the 240p visuals and 20fps framerate ... or crank shit up to some crazy Ultrawide 8K at 360hz, free-control camera + any and all visual mods you may like.Same goes with the Majora's Mask.Either way, my rule of thumb for ANY game ever created is the same:Start with the original, in as original form as possible, and give it a honest shot. That way, you will experience the true, intended version of the game, and will at least recognize all the changes / cuts the potential remakes make.Personally, I find both the 3DS and especially the 2026 remake to be way too censored and streamlined to be considered as viable options for the N64 OG OoT.
>>751572128this looks like shit
>>751572098>choose the 3DS version over the original.The 3DS port was already heavily butchered and censored. Yeah, there's some Restoration mods for it nowadays, but you really don't benefit in any way by choosing that over the vastly superior Ship Of Harkinian PC port nowadays.
>>751572158It really does not, but you don't have to play it like that.
>>751571846OG on a real Nintendo 64 + tube telly.It makes the game feel that much more ethereal and even spooky when things get dark.
>bros they censored it!>how?>they uhh, mopped up the blood on the ground in that one roomhmm
>>751571846I've played all 3, remake. Anyone shilling OG is a disingenuous shitposter or genuinely mentally ill.
>>751572360They literally removed ALL mentions of people "Dying" in the remake.Kokiris no longer die if they leave the forest.Deku Tree just "withers" instead of dying.The wounded guard does not visibly die in front of your eyes.The Sages no longer "die" to become guardian spirits, but are "saved".Not only that, but all the corpses and skeletons are removed from the remake as well, alongside with the red blood.Even the Shadow Temple skull ornaments were turned into goofy masks or whatnot.And to add insult to injury, the English localization removes any mentions of Link being a BOY, with everyone just calling him a "fairy CHILD".>>751572505Anyone shilling the demake is a dishonest Nintentroon, who seethes about the game having a working PC port at this point. 800 dollars well SAVED.
Play the original on an n64 or just ship of harkinian. The original experience is good but the 20fps makes me sick and ship can fix that while giving an otherwise vanilla experience. Dealer's choice on right stick camera movement.
>>751571846The original. But if you can't handle that, 3DS is the most faithful and easiest to get into.
>>751572180do not pay attention to this nigga, you will just be missing some blood splatters in 2 areas of the game and you'll be having to look at the shitty prerendered backgrounds. play 3ds or switch 2
>>751572608>They literally removed ALL mentions of people "Dying" in the remake.That they didn't do, Deku Tree died, Darunia almost died, ect.
>>751572608It’s made way clear that the deku tree died. Like it’s impossible to take away anything else even with “wither”. I was all amped up to be outraged because of the engagement baits but when I got to it I thought the remake made you feel the Deku trees death FAR more than the original. You leave Kokiri like “damn are these little freaks gonna be alright from now on …”
>>751573043>do not pay attention to this nigga, you will just be missing some blood splatters in 2 areas of the gameIt's just hilarious to see 3DS Gen-Zoombies so defensive towards their older butchered slop. The lighting, color-palette, character animations, cutscene pacing and cinematography all suck ass in the 3DS port, and many gameplay functions, like the rolling when you jump from high enough, is just plain BUGGED OUT.>>751573261Incorrect. The whole term "death" is all but erased in the de-make.
>>751571981I didn't think the Soulless meme was real until I saw this image, holy fuck.
>>751573324>They don't say dead!what are you, 12
>>751571846OG unless you really can't stand the controls.Remake is fine but I don't think it really replaces the original.
>>751572608To be fair, Link IS a fairy child, and so are you.
>>751573345>it's supposed to look like shiteh, suit yourself
>>751572128>60fpssoulless
>>751573302>when I got to it I thought the remake made you feel the Deku trees death FAR more than the original.Good for you. Luckily, rest of this world are not schizos who prefer over-dramatic nonsense. The pure silence and ears-splitting sounds of tree drying up were much more powerful, more somber way of conveying the moment than the turbo orchestrated background noise + constantly switching camera angles.Similar lazy lack of cinematography hinders rest of the game's cutscenes as well.
>>751573427Yeah, Malon has always called Link fairy child in the original. idk what that other anon is smoking, but I don't want any.
>>751571846The switch 2 remake. A superior modern version and now the canon version of the game
>>751573465Honestly getting super emotional over low polygon scenes with sparse information or dramatization is way more schizophrenic
>>751573465Nah, you're just turbo autistic latching onto anything you can to try and save the original from irrelevancy. How idiotic is it that you demand the game say "DEAD" and avoid any amount of punchiness beyond it. You're so far gone, it's not even funny.
>>751573380>>751573594Nobody dies,nobody even mentions death,and imagery portraying death are gone.Hell, even the Sheik's poems were made more cryptic and softer in delivery.You need to really do some magical mental gymnastics to make this shit make sense.>>751573576Says a literal aphantastic NPC with no sense of sympathy nor imagination.
>>751572329you are mentally retardedthat's a print-screen capture versus the world's shittest camera photo
>>751571846Man the 3ds version looked great at the time
>nobody diesI'm out, you're retarded.
>>751573659It was shitted on /v/ already day 1 for a reason.Piss filters + removed dynamic effects like lighting and fog in dungeons + all that pastel color really make it hard to look at. And once you realize that Link's animations don't sync with his movements, making him look like he's moonwalking around, the game becomes unbearable to watch.>>751573667Stay in the RetardEra next time, please!
>>751573993>RetardEraOh, it's that guy with trannies in his head from that thread yesterday who got btfo when he lied about navi being intrusive in remake LMAO
>>751574385She is ten times more intrusive in the de-make, kiddo.Of course the God Of Soilent: Muh Son era secondaries wouldn't see any issue with this. Nor have (You) ever played the original OoT for that matter.
>>751574534And this keeps happening, over and over again, if you dare to do anything but bee-line from one story point to another. Patronizing as fuck.
>>751574534lmao dance for me schizo you're funny
>>751573993I never stopped to appreciate how much the 3DS fixes the lighting of the original. It looks so warm and vibrant.
>>751574385NTA but why are you pretending Navi doesn't stop Link in the remake?
>>751573631How can you claim others have no imagination when you’re literally asking for completely obvious things to be spelled Very classical autistic energy here
>>751574627It looks like literal piss filters thrown on over-saturated world, with many of the special effects and lighting turned off.The original looked practically photorealistic at the time with its lighting. The 3DS version is like the Hunter x Hunter's 2011 adaptation of video games.
>>751574737That’s mostly because you’re emulating on a pc tard.
>>751571981these are the most grainy, aliased, artifacty, low quality visuals ever.
>>751574690The clip he posted only happens after you've collected 10 skulltula tokens and haven't visited the skulltula house after a certain other threshold is met. The lost woods thing is literally the only other instance in the game where she does this, if it wasn't a right dpad press. In the last thread he posted a screenshot of a bunch of dpad presses of navi talking trying to pass it off as the game being intrusive. Meanwhile you literally get UI flashes and "HEY!" at random times in the original, which literally doesn't happen anymore. Funny that he thinks I haven't played the original (kusoge, can't swap boots without pausing), or the (good) 3DS remake. He's legitimately mentally ill or has an extreme case of cognitive dissonance or something.
>>751574795I've already emulated the thing with restoration + de-censorship patches half a decade ago. And now there's a PC recomp to use as well.The Ship Of Harkinian is still the definitive OoT experience.>>751574906>The clip he posted only happens after you've collected 10 skulltula tokens and haven't visited the skulltula house after a certain other threshold is metWhich did not happen in the original, because contrary to all the Navi-hater memes, she wasn't constantly backseating and STEALING THE CONTROLS from you like this.Also, that streamer only had 8 tokens in her pocket. She just did not visit the house, because it's kinda out of the way and uninteresting to boot.> Meanwhile you literally get UI flashes and "HEY!" at random times in the original, which literally doesn't happen anymoreWhich was a FAR lesser issue than this literal stop-dialog-camera pan trash.>kusoge, can't swap boots without pausingOf course it would have to be an ADHD Skyrim kid who gets triggered by a non-issue like that.
>>751574737you are fucking high and retarded
>>751575125>autistic screeching
>>751571846OOT 3D. Every nitpick can be fixed with some mild texture or visual modding.the Ocarina sounds FUCKING HORRIBLE in the shitch 2 demake. the cheap samples they used and the garbage digital pitch shifting is so badly executed it sounds like the worst synthesizer ever.Shitch 2 has bad gameplay, generic environments, bad visuals, bad voice acting and bad cutscenes.
>>751571846It's the same game so whatever you want.
>>751575178Sure man, have fun missing out snoy
>>751575139>>751575160lol, Nintroonie meltie!
>>751575284Damn, owned!!
>>751575206That's the same as claiming that the shitty UE5 demake of Silent Hill 2 would be 1:1 the same game as the 2001 PS2 original that people praise to this day.
>>751575331Anon we all know OoT remake was made with the BotW engine. Your cope is very old
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>>751575358?Are you like mentally retarded, illiterate, or just trolling? What does that have to do with anything at all?? All I'm saying that neither the SH2R nor OOT:R are even close to the original game.
>>751575206Absolutely not.If you played the OOT 3D you can still say that you played the sombre and repectable masterpiece that is OOT.if you played the shitch 2 version you literally did not play OOT. You played a cringey saturday morning anime in a generic unreal engine assetflip where not one thing is faithful.not even 1 aspect of the game was done correctly or faithfully. it's a reboot. it has fundamentally different events and BOTW gameplay.
>>751575331No. Because SH2 Remake actually changes things outside of graphics and sound. Things like different camera system, new areas, completely different combat, new puzzles, etc. OoT on the switch is just a glorified remaster.
>>751575221I have the emulator. i'm just not playing this garbage. it's woeful dogshit.
>>751571846If you are open to older games play the original, via the PC port or emulation. If you aren't open to it, then the new remake. 3DS version is fine too, but ideally not on the console itself, I think OoT should have a bigger screen.
>>751575443You mentioned UE5, it's easy to assume you're insinuating OoT was made with unreal engine like so many snoys have been mashing into their keyboards. But saying OoT remake is nothing like the original IS actually retarded. The only change I don't like is the button mapping, or lack thereof. I wanted assignable items like OoT3D. That said having mask / lens, boots, and ocarina assigned to dpad is nice. Some people actually play and enjoy games here.
>>751571846Play OOT 1.0 version on n64. You will love it. Red blood. Islamic chants.mirror shield looks cooler.
>>751575694>muh heckin muslim chantIt's in remake btw, just not literally a prayer sample. They brought the chanting back. Though I know you haven't played it.
>>751575639It's nothing like OOT.it doesn't look like OOT, it looks like a generic UE5 asset flip.it doesn't feel like OOT it plays like BOTW.it doesn't have OOT's story. the same things don't happen. literally every event and line of dialogue was changed for no reason. It's a badly written anime now.it doesn't sound like OOT. it has the worst sound design ever and literally the worst anime voice acting of any game ever.
>>751576048uh oh meltie
>>751576135I'm right about everything.no argument.
>>751576238You didn't have an argument either, you just spouted nonsensical opinions. Perish, schizo
>>751575178ai links proportions were also adjusted so he'd look taller too. would have no complaints if the game looked like that and probably would have been hyped enough to buy the unique switch model too
>>751571846I'm playing the remake as my first time and it's bretty good
>>751576612Many such cases. It's like green eggs and ham, doubters just have to try it.
>>751576426it's because switch 2 link is using his BOTW proportions not the OOT proportions.
>>751576612that's like playing RE2RE or FF7Rand thinking you're playing the actual RE2 or FF7.You're ruining the experience for yourself by playing an unfaithful reboot that's nothing like the actual product it's based on.
>>751572128only post worth anything ITT, this is it.
>>751575694>Islam chant and symbolsare you a Muslim?
>>751574906>The lost woods thing is literally the only other instance in the game where she does thisIt also happens when you get Serenade of Water.
>>751577473Stop spinning your wheels and go shit up your next thread, schizo. You lose.
>>751576898I thought /v/ hated it because it added nothing new?
>>751571846It depends on what you want out of it.>N64The absolute original experience, the most accessible version via Ship of Harikinian, and the ideal PC option. It's the best choice overall, imo. If you're too much of a zoomer to tolerate the og graphics, you can use tweaks that swap in shit like 3DS models and upscaled texture packs.>3DSA very faithful remaster that keeps everything they possibly could, down to all the bugs, glitches, easter eggs, special interactions, etc. The only significant changes are that the Water Temple was made easier by using colours to differentiate each level, some blood was removed, and the lighting in some scenes is borked. There are some other issues if you're autistic (worse animations, nitpicks like >>751573324), but if you're not, it's a perfectly good option. Ideal if you have a 3DS or equivalent dual-screen like Ayn Thor.Don't play MM3D without the Project Restoration mod.>Switch 2An actual remake, for better or worse. Beautiful graphics, dumbed down dungeons, far more dialogue, cutscenes, etc. (apparently often to its detriment, but whatever), and while many of the original quirks were removed, they added many new easter eggs to find. Don't bother emulating it, it's not feature complete and probably won't be for a long time. I'd personally suggest playing it after one of the other two, but if OoTR is what caught your attention, there's no harm playing it over the others. Just be aware that it's not the OoT everyone knows and loves.I haven't personally played this one yet though, so take what I have to say about it with a grain of salt.
>>751575694I'm going to hear enough muslim chanting in the coming years and we all have to fight off these filthy islamist invaders from our lands.I don't need to hear it in OOT. the less Islam the better.
>>751577632>Don't play MM3D without the Project Restoration mod.It's not needed, but it's nice that it lets you swap arrow types quicker. That's about it honestly. I wouldn't worry about using that autist mod.
>>751574583You don't understand just how retarded kids are these days. They need their hand held every step of the way otherwise they think the game is boring and go back to Roblox. Even with these changes it's unlikely to hold their attention over Steal a Brainrot.
>>751571846Unless you're appreciative about retro games and can understand the timing and era when each one existed, Switch 2 one is the best one to play hands down.
>>751577632Finally someone without a stick up their ass. Yes, it's not the original OoT, it's better (imo). You should try it some time. Some of the English VAs are actually really good. Darunia, Rauru, and Impa are all good. Shiek is appropriate too. Haven't heard adult Zelda just yet, I'm about to start Gerudo Desert / Spirit Temple. Oh and deku tree sprout is straight up hilarious.
If you still haven't played OoT it means you're a zoomer and should play the demake because it's the easiest and most accessible. But you're probably still better off by just watching a TikTok video about the game, since the actual game is like 30 hours long which is such an unc length for a video game.
>>751577473Should I start adding in all the Adult Link interruptions from original?
>>751572608Nintendo has always had the problem of wanting to be Disney to it's own self-censorship and also vaulting it's products.>"Nintendo Switch 2 Online Plus!" "Most games, most features, most fun"
>>751577853Definitely, this schizo seems to be sticking around and it's hilarious when he's proven wrong again and again.
>>751577630it takes away far more than it adds.but what it adds is anime cringe. custcenes of stupid anime cliche bullshit replacing what was meant to happen in the scene for no fucking reason.Navis horrible fucking voice talking in cutscenes every 5 seconds when literally none of that was in the script.Shiek being an anime girlboss instead of getting fucked up by the shadowGanon instead of coughing up blood, just saturday morning anime villain monologue-ing: "Noo how am I THE MIGHTY GANONDORF being defeated by the 3 year old toddler player, the intended audience of this game as you can tell form the writing":
>>751577960>oh noooo they fleshed out the writingOG snoys act like this is a bad thing. By the way you can thaw Zora Domain now, and there are tons of dynamic NPC interactions as adult Link based on where you're at in the story. Such as everyone talking about the attack in Kakariko Village.
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>>751577853>optional>you have to go out of your way to triggerThat's the opposite of what it is.
>>751578151LMAO does master mode remove all navi interruptions entirely? Holy shit I didn't know that. I gotta test it next playthrough. Been playing on pro mode not knowing the difference between it and master mode.
>>751576898Yeah, people need to experience the true art of the original FF7 with riveting gameplay where they select "attack" on a menu over and over. It is actually embarrassing that people think that dogshit game is good. The 1997 equivalent of The Last of Us. Looks pretty but in reality it's a movie game that tricks midwits into thinking it's good.
>>751578108> they fleshed out the writing*looks inside* it's just anime cringe. that ruins every scene.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJavQjcb8foyou are a baby. you are playing a Saturday morning anime for toddlers.
>>751577781Fair enough. I think it's the better choice for a first-timer who's never touched the N64 version since he doesn't have the context to know what Grizzo changed, but you're right that it isn't strictly necessary to enjoy it.>>751577818I definitely plan to, but I'm budgeting around Christmas right now and don't want to buy a Switch 2 in the middle of all that kek. I'm hoping that by 2027 the prices will improve.
>>751578213No, retard. It removes the HUD only. Navi interupts you no matter what.
>>751578252oh boy he's MAD kek
>>751571846play whichever one you wantoutside of super-specific stuff like patches and mods no one version is better than the other and they appeal to different tastes
>>751578283>I offer you the sacred... LIGHT ARROWS!
>>751578252Oh it's this insufferable twat again
For me it's modded OOT3D
>>751578435Does this also add the original mirror shield and fire temple chanting?
>>751578258>hoping for better prices in 2027Could happen if some miracle makes Nividia stop hoarding wafers and memory for fake companies. Normies are starting to pay attention with Huang getting the boot, even my aunt heard about it.
>>751571846The most serious problem with the remake is the cutscene choreography and loss of a great range of emotions on character faces that the original had.It's a mixed bag, main characters have exaggerated personalities, but are missing a lot of the faces they could make in the original. Side characters have it much better in the remake, because they never had a lot of drawn faces to begin with.
>>751578435https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPa7TWV3xUg
>>751571846I would say Ship of Harkinian or OoT Remake for Switch 2.The remake is so close being the definitive version of the game but there are so many small things that stop it from being the case.
>>751578734>tranime Anime website. Door's over there -> reddit.com
>>751578734>we're all HUNGRYYYYYYY>IIII'm JUUUST ABOUT REAADY TOOO BLOOOOOOOOWhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ci8dIpNcyEY
>>751571846At this point, Ocarina Remake on Switch 2 is the safest bet. And if you really enjoy it, go back and play the original and/or 3DS, blemishes and all.
>>751571846Original is mandatory at least once.3D doesn't really have a reason for existing anymore.Remake is the definitive version as far as gameplay goes.
play the original. If you don't like it by the time you meet princess zelda, give up and play the switch 2 remake.It's a brilliant, gorgeous game and a perfect introduction to OoT or the Zelda franchise in general. I love the fat women in this game, too, they're so round and sexy. Here's a pic of a grilled cheese I made after beating the game tonight.
Switch 2 remake. I don't see any point in playing the other versions and I own the original cartridge which I bought back in 99.Original is a little harder and "the most faithful" but honestly the remake plays a lot nicer by the simple addition of having a camera stick, and 99% of the nitpicks are dumb shit that doesn't matter. They did a great job. Honestly my only complain is none of the shit that /v/ brings up, but that by removing the dedicated shield button one of the bosses is not as fun and the combat is a lot more forgiving. That's about it. 3Ds looks like that meme of remakes where they lost the art direction completely.
>>751578567Assuming that reply was meant for me, yes there are mods that do that as well. The fire temple one is kinda broken so I got claude to slop up a fix if you're interested.
>>751571846Guy with dozens of OoT clears and thousands of randomizer clears here:Depends on what your goal is: Do you just want to experience the game? OoT remake is actually pretty faithful, some stuff got dumbed down, but also some stuff got improved so overall it evens itself out, and it's certainly the most casual friendly way of experiencing the game. Do you have any interest in eventually playing OoT randomizer? Then probably do a 100% of the N64 game first. Other than that it doesn't matter if you play the OG or the remake, and for someone just wanting to experience OoT I would recommend the remake.Slight disagreement with this anon tho: >>751572128It's fine to use the widescreen hack and whatnot on ship, But do NOT use the high frame rate / high Hz effect. OoT runs at a pretty low framerate by default, but you get used to it, because outside of a few specific scenes it's very stable so it doesn't feel like it's "chugging". However the ship version doesn't really up your framerate, internally the whole game still runs on that low fps logic, BUT it fills your screen with these "fake" frames in between to make it look "smooth". But honestly it looks like ass. Like motion smoothing on a tv. Fuck that feature. Don't use it. Also for the love of god: For anyone using a CRT filter: then at least put the game on a TV and play it from far away. CRT filters look like ASS if you use them on a monitor you are sitting right in front of. If you can see individual lines, you are sitting too close to be using a CRT filter: I have no earthly Idea why people never point that out.
>>751579235>Guy with dozens of OoT clears and thousands of randomizer clears here:did the outpatient at least give you a bun to put your ground up dick sausage into?
>>751579167>99% of the nitpicks are dumb shit that doesn't matterRope.
>>751579321NTA but you first faggot. 96 96 96 96 96 96 96 96 96 96 96 Ninety-six user score rating, highest in metacritic history. Maybe, just possibly, you are the retard. Being a contrarian does not make you smart, and if anything it probably correlates with mental diseases.
>>7515789243D is a the best way to expeciance OOT accurately and faithfully for those who think OOT 64 is too ugly. it also has the best button mapping and gyro aiming of the 3.Switch 2 is a kind of pointless alternate universe fever dream. the custcenes are insufferable to sit through, the vaseline covered characters and environments don't resemble OOT in any way, most of the gameplay has been watered down and nerfed beyond recognition (the hooskhot sucks, dins fire feels like nothing, "secrests" are blatantly pointed out to you, combat is floaty and has no impact, ect) it's the sort of thing you might play for 5 minutes just to see what a heinously ugly alternate reality OOT with anime storytelling, BOTW controls and UE5 asset flip visuals is like.
>>751572608>The Sages no longer "die" to become guardian spirits, but are "saved".They never "died" in the original either. This was just heavily implied to be the case, never confirmed canon. I don't mind this change, because the "they died" headcanon means that a bunch of them, darunia especially are kinda stupidly got themselves killed unnecessarily, instead of waiting for Link. The new version is much nicer, pulling them out to serve their roles.
>>751571846If you don't mind spending money, 100% the remake, the progression is pretty much identical to the original but it has some noticeable improvements in terms of combat and enemy encounters.>Sword combat feels more polished>Shooting with the Slingshot, Bow and Hookshot is improved thanks to gyro controls>One button for subweapons sounds like a bad idea, but in practice it's really good because it gives you immediate access to all of your items, while in the original you would need to pause to access to the items not set to the C buttons>Megaton Hammer now feels like it packs a punch, while Din's Fire casts really fast without interrupting gameplay>Ocarina, Boots and Lenses of Truth are now set to the D-Pad>Masks can now be used as an adult, they unlock a lot of flavor text and the Mask of Truth in particular can now read minds>Bosses got slightly remixed, they stay faithful to the originals but got improved in many ways>The final Ganon fight is a huge improvement and an absolute spectacle to play>New area where you can rematch minibosses and bosses>You can use Zelda Notes from the Switch phone app to track area completition which makes it more convenient to 100% the game and it also records and awards your best times in the boss rematches>Humming, whistling or playing an instrument to play the ocarina in-game is some silly funIf you still want to play the original first, just play the NSO app version or download Ship of Harkinian.
>>751579321Hey it's nitpickerman, forever assblasted.
>>751573324>Unique dreamlike Wallsexcept it's a wall texture they repeated for a grotto. remake handled this great, by making it Aurora Borealis which I believe was kind of what it was supposed to be in the first place>Bricks & PipesEh, one reference swapped for a different reference. Not a bad change at all. The remake is the true tragedy here, having removed the reference on the right side completely for some reason.
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>>751578487When you think about it it makes no sense for there to be such visible blood splatters if the entire dungeon was supposed to have been flooded for years.
>>751579503>Sword combat feels more polished>Ocarina, Boots and Lenses of Truth are now set to the D-Pad>New area where you can rematch minibosses and bossesmost of these "improvements" were done way better in OOT 3D proving this anon has never played it. and OOT 3D is not ugly and is actually respectable and faithful.>You can use Zelda Notes from the Switch phone app to track area completition which makes it more convenient to 100% the game and it also records and awards your best times in the boss rematches>Humming, whistling or playing an instrument to play the ocarina in-game is some silly funLOL come the fuck on dude these are not selling points.
>>751579215Yeah I’d use it. I’m gonna play it on master mode soon.
>>751579624yeah just seeing bland flat walls with spakle textures on it looks horrible.sure OOT 3D could have put some sparkles behind the Ice crystals and that would look nice but it still looks much better than the flat and lifeless square room in the original.
>>751579712They are if you like buying soulless remakes or paying a subscription for ROMs. kek
>>751577818>I'm about to start Gerudo Desert / Spirit Temple. Oh and deku tree sprout is straight up hilarious.You will really enjoy Nabooru. Zelda is also pretty good and you will really like her involvement in the final escape. A gigantic improvement over BotW Zelda who made me change the dub to japanese because I fucking hated her voice.
>>751571846There is literally zero reason to play the N64 version, it ran at 20fps, it looks like ass and it has a ton of retarded archaoc gameplay niggles that boggle down the experience.For a faithful experience that doesn't look like ass and has a lot of really needed QoL addition, emulate the 3DS version.If you want to play a modernized version with some interesting changes and an actual art style, go for the Switch version.Ultimately, the plot is the same.
>>751571846no idea, whichever is free
>>751579756https://files.catbox.moe/s8q1pg.zipThis shouldn't fuck with other tracks like the old mod does, but I haven't done a full playthrough with it yet. If it does just delete the mod when you're done with the fire temple. I'd recommend just having a browse on gamebanana for other shit if you want it
>>751579712Saying OoT3D is respectable and faithful is a bit much. The saturation is incredibly high, and I say that as a massive fan of OoT3D (pictured). I don't know what you mean when you say the sword combat was better in OoT3D. I've had a much better experience with it in remake. So if you could elaborate on that please, I genuinely don't understand what would make you say that.
>>751579503>Shooting with the Slingshot, Bow and Hookshot is improved thanks to gyro controlsit literally feels worse than OOT 3D gyro.>while Din's Fire casts really fast without interrupting gameplayit also feels like shit and has no impact any more. nothing has feels like it has any impact.and why the fuck do bombs float in water? are they hollow now?
>>751571846I live by the rule of not playing any game that came out before the ps2 era unless its a remake, and no the 3ds version of oot is not a remake but a remaster and port
imagine preferring either soulless demake to the classic OG. holy brown skinned retards, and of course zoomfaggots who have never even touched a 64 game.
>>751579909He's retarded. The combat in the remake is by far the best of the three. Not even close.Enemies are more aggressive and you can't interrupt their attack animations anymore.
>>751580049>I love getting annoyed by navi and menu swapping boots, back in my day we didn't have internet either!Ok gramps
>>751579909>The saturation is incredibly highso turn it down on your monitor? saturation is better than grainy, ugly and cluttered. Amazing this shit you'll nitpick in 3D while ignoring how literally everything in demake is completely unfaithful.>I don't know what you mean when you say the sword combat was better in OoT3D. I've had a much better experience with it in remake.do you think the pissy unsatisfying BOTW combat feels good?because that would explain why you like the Demake OOT combat.bad sound design, bad animation, bad particle effects. badly re-paced animations. it just feels like BOTW shit.
>>751571846Just play the new one. OoT was always a baby game. You don't get anything out of playing the version with less QoL other than avoiding the ass voice acting
>>751580047>I live by the rule of not playing any game that came out before the ps2 eraimagine being proud of this statement and ignoring 99% of all the best games ever made.
>>751579909>pic
>>751580095>AIIIIIIEEEE IS THAT 5 SECONDS I SPENT USING A MENU?!!! SAVE ME NIGGERMAN I NEED STIMULATION!@!!!@ PUT THE FUNNY NIGGER MAN ON THE THIRD MONITER BEFORE I DIALATE!!
>>751579712I have played all versions of OoT, and not only I own OoT3D, but I beat both the regular and the Master Quest campaigns. 3D is a literal carbon copy of the original with prettied up graphics and some QoL improvements thanks to the touchscreen. Saying that OoT3D is "respectable and faithful" to the original is a good joke when the main complaint of that game is that it's saturated as fuck to the point it completely ruins the atmosphere of the final fight.>LOL come the fuck on dude these are not selling points.They're welcome fun additions, the ocarina playing in particular is a fun extra to have.
>>7515801875 seconds that you have to keep doing over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over...
>>751580116I played it on the actual hardware, I generally don't emulate. So I cannot "turn the saturation down". Made an exception for Dusklight to play that. Emulation sucks the joy out of gaming for me.Everything you mentioned about its "BotW" combat is aesthetics aside from animations, which were tweaked to be more challenging in remake along with better enemy AI etc. I think you have a condition or you're just not being honest with yourself, and me.
>>751580237Yeah, water temple. I'd never ever go back to 64 now, there's simply no reason to.
The original is a must play no matter what. Play that and then the remake. Or play the original and then master quest, which is fucking stupid but I’d still give it a finish.
>>751580119>You don't get anything out of playing the versionyou don't have to listen to this garbage >>751578734you get actual colour instead of looking at grey Unreal Engine smoke 100% of the timeyou get a well written script and cutscenes that aren't poorly directed cringe.you get a slingshot that actually works properlyyou get the proper character designs and environmnets.you get about 500 mechanics that were removed from the demake.I could list like 100 things that are missing/ruined in the demake.
>>751579825>sure OOT 3D could have put some sparkles behind the Ice crystalsIt did. The camera pans over them while Sheik teaches Link the song too. It's intentionally trying to look like that one piece of art with Link and Shiek playing music
3ds or original. Remake is a straight downgrade.
>>751580309>you get about 500 mechanics that were removed from the demake.>I could list like 100 things that are missing/ruined in the demake.List them
The more I read through this thread, the more I believe that people shilling 3D or calling the Switch version a demake are poor and are suffering from sour grapes. Not a single honest opinion in their posts, everything is argued in bad faith for the sake of arguing.
>>751580126I tried and genuinely none clicked with me, i enjoyed the ff7 and ff9 until the halfway point, and i enjoyed a good chunk of mgs, but that was it, with open world games especially it would always get to a point where the next objective would become very vague or easy to miss and you would have no choice but to look it up
>>751571846Play one of the PC recomps of the remake, as an unc it really just is the definitive version, use japanese voices.
>>751580457I'm /v/'s biggest OOT3D shill and I think the S2 version is fine. It does a lot of things I like and just as many things I think are retarded. It's a good time, but it doesn't replace 3D or SoH for me, not by a long shot
>>751580457This
>>751571846Get the remake. It's one of the best-looking games Nintendo ever made
>poor>you can emulate the game on a PC that undoubtedly costs more than a toy handheld that's about $500brown?
I can't believe I'm saying this but I kinda miss Navi's random remarks about the area you're in in the remake. It's a little sad how quiet she is in the game.
>>751580460>incapable of using brain for anything, must have yellow paint, flashing quest pointer or walkthrough at all times
>>751580541Yes anon, that's brown behavior, good that you acknowledge it.
>>751571846You should've just played the N64 version before the remake came out, so you could play the remake while everyone else is and join in the shitposting. Now you have to play the remake without having played the original if you want to join in. But actually, that's probably better, because now you can shitpost harder by making up shit about the original to compare to.
I stopped playing the remake after the fire temple. While the remake looks gorgeous and you can always change the terrible English dub. The game is piss easy, insultingly easy. I don't feel too bad about buying it since I think they will release the Master Quest as DLC. I will wait until then.
>>751580457Correct.
>>751580830>The game is piss easy, insultingly easyWhen was the last time you played the original? It's an easy game.
>>751580830First time playing Zelda? They're all piss easy, it's more about the sense of adventure and appreciating the direction. But yeah here's hoping masterquest doesn't take like a year to release. Problem though? It's fucking mirrored. I don't understand why Nintendo insists on shoe horning in a mirror mode where it doesn't belong. It just makes things look "wrong". The added "challenge" of navigation is non-existent, it's just an annoyance.
>>751572128Shaders are improving immensely, but they still don't get the blending and glow right. Bothers me.
>>751580830The original was even easier, meanwhile in the remake some enemies now have super armor, like the Lizalfos and the Stalfos, so you can spam all you want and they will still hit you back. Wolfos also got improved, they don't die to a single back hit anymore and the white ones can now freeze you.Hopefully they will release Master Quest + Hero Mode soon.
>>751580916The dungeons in the remake have been turned to sight seeing tours. The original's dungeons required some thinking even if they are "easy".
>>751580375Counting what I've already listed:-links proper oot voice-Iconic UI sounds-1000s of lines of dialogue that have been ruined-vital atmosphere sounds-links diving animation-Vertex trails that have proper transparency-dynamic music in places like the lost woods-player agency-areas that can't be easily broken by the fact you now have a jump button-Grass cutting instead of weird bulbs placed here and there.-Sword hitting walls to see if they're hollow-Dins fire feeling powerful and havign impactif I had time i'd go and list all the specific things like:-i'd list all the downgrades and behaviors they removed from enemies like the stalfos being more pathetic & not being able to self revive and Iron nuckle not being able to guard break.-all the things that you can no longer hookshot on-all the elements that are missing from dungeon and puzzles-all the vital visual elements that have been removed from each environment form the start of the game right til the end.-every puzzle that has been dumbed down-like 80 Things that previously were not being marked for you basically in yellow paint-all the physics differences that have a real impact on the gamethis took too long to write
>>751581096They're largely the same. You're speaking with your asshole and it smells. The only time I really noticed differences that changed things was ice cavern. Visibly different, and an extra blue fire location. Play the game before you speak.
>>751581164That's not 500 or 100. Keep going.
>>751581164>Iconic UI soundsThose are in the remake thoughever
>>751571981unironically looks like shit
the remake is perfect, it's objectively an improvement on literally everything from N64 and makes it obsolete. the Nintendo magic is still there, anyone complaining just wants to complain about stuff that literally doesn't matter. the changes were good, it's time to move on and embrace the new OOT.
>>751581186There isn't a single dungeon that hasn't been dumbed down for the most retarded toddler to beat it.just look up dungeon videos on youtube and A/B compare them.this shit really has been made for lobotomized vegetables.OOT was already easy. the last thing it needed was 1million little changes every where to make it even more braindead.
>>751581186>The only time I really noticed differences that changed things was ice cavernyou're either lying or retarded
>>751571846N64 on original hardware or Switch 2 remake. Anything else is retarded.
>>751581186They have been severely dumbed down, even the bosses.
>>751571846Switch 2. But after you should play 64.
>fake gamers hating on a remake that's actually kino for oncelollmao even
>>751581324>tiny visual differencesI didn't even notice these guiding lines for the levels. I was having too much fun playing a dungeon I've done maybe 30-60 times in the previous versions. To actually notice this shit you genuinely have to be autistic, or just parroting what some youtuber said in a video essay.
>>751581164>links proper oot voiceLiterally the first point and you're already being ridiculous. Let me guess, you wanted Nintendo to just effortlessly copy-paste the original voices for the sake of remaining "faithful" to the original? Oh yeah, let's conveniently forget that Navi's VA is literally the same as in the original and she was given an entire role with fully voiced lines, but you conveniently forgot that, huh? Fucking disingenous piece of shit, your entire post is as worthless as you.
>>751581226it's more way more than 100 if you list all the changes instead of just saying."they changed the dialogue" "they changed the levels"but I'm not fucking listing all the dialogue downgrades and levels design downgrades for example. that would take me weeks.the point is OOT demake is not the least bit faithful. it's in a separate category to faithful stuff like 64 and 3D.
>>751581164>dinns firelmao you fags are so unserious. You know half those posts on twitter you are getting your talking points from are being sarcastic right?
>>751581356A literal lie and now I know that you haven't even played the game.
>>751580528The remake has soul ngl
>>751581463>>751581491OWNED that faggot
>>751571981The remake is meant to be played on PC.
>>7515718462026 remake is fine.You can also do the PC port with 3ds textures and brightness fix, or emulate the 3ds version itself if you want something some retro feelingNot much of reason to specifically go for the original release nowadays.
>>751581426>I didn't even notice these guiding lines for the levels.there is no chance you played the N64 version and you didn't notice the glowing water level guidelines. i conclude you never played it and are larping
>>751581446Go be retarded somewhere else. If you say you can easily list 600+ demerits but refuse to do so, then you're just a giant faggot.
>>751581096They are barely any different.You're probably from the bunch that likes to nitpick that a texture with a giant hole in the middle was somehow quantum physics compared to having a generic bombable texture. It's the same shit.The only puzzle change I lament is the statues on Shadow, because I don't think the statue cracks are easier to see in that darkly lit place than the bomb flowers, and the bomb flowers obviously pointed to you having to activate them from a distance (plus I think navi gave a hint). But I also get the change "shooting an arrow to a bomb flower" is never a relevant mechanic anywhere else in the entire game.
>>751581428>Navi's VA is literally the sameNope she's old now. she now talks entirely too much instead of just 4 charming sound bites. the English voice is the worst fucking thing ever too.Navi now talks in almost every custcene and she sounds like a more annoying version of Tails.but back to Links Iconic voice. that IS the voice of OOT link. Oot 3D had it. there is no excuse for the shitch demake not to have it.without this it's not OOT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPGgmDls6rA
>>751581663I never got past the forest temple as a kid playing OoT on Wii. I later completed the game on 3DS. Hold on I'll show you my save to back it up so you can stop being a faggot.
>>751572098lol shut up zoomer
>>751581723>I later completed the game on 3DS>never played originalLMAO. larper confirmed. your opinion on this entire discussion is invalid
i'll use the word NITPICK to stop discussion because I can't make an argument
>>751581663>>751581723
>>751581795Sure, grandpa. I would never play the original again even if I was paid to.
>>751581832>owning a childrens toy
>>751581672I never said I was going to spend weeks listing every single downgrade for you you retarded autist..how fucking dumb and autistic can you be to think that's what someone is gonna do when communicating the fact that demake has too many unfaithful changes to list.
>>751572128This but 240p 30 fps capoot looks weird at high frame rate but nobody should be forced to deal with 20 fps
>>751581876>making fun of videogames on a videogame boardgtfo to /pol/
>>751581897You're the one going on and on about problems imaginary or otherwise. And when prompted to back up your claim you can barely come up with a handful. Put your money where your mouth is or fuck off.>I never said I was going to spend weeks listing every single downgradeBut you are spending several hours "arguing" moot points. Surely you can easily make your list.
>>751579464I think it's unnecessary to so blatantly go "No don't worry I was saved last minute off screen"Becoming a sage has always had a level of "Death/Rebirth" into the role, even WW did that, where the implication is that to become a sage one must give up their current life, either literally or figuratively.Leaving it ambiguous was the best option and served the idea of "The sages are no longer able to live the lives they once did", death in all but name, but softening it up with additional lines assuring they're totally OK, really robs the setting of how "Dire" it is, it reduces the stakes. Same with the guard not dying (Again, they add a line where he goes "I'm ok, now get moving" instead of "Stopped moving", whether he passed out or died, you don't know, but things are getting worse.) They also remove most mentions of Link becoming a man, being thrust into adulthood, Darunia early on calls Link a man, a brother (They keep him being called a brother, not but being praised as a man) but once he's an adult, he shows he truly believes Link grew into the man he knew he'd be, in the remake it's softened to "Hey long time no see let's catch up later" rather than a grim admiration and remorse he couldn't stay around to have a talk, "Man to Man", among equals in brotherhood.Removal of a lot of the "Growing up" and the stakes, really makes it feel toothless, and the worst part is other languages KEPT these things, it's only the English localization that does most of these changes.
>>751571846Although I dont agree with every change in the remake, there are so many great improvements that it's hard for me not to call it the superior version. The purist in me will always recommend the original first, but if you remotely have a low tolerance for retro jank, then switch 2 remake all the way.Especially dont listen to the autists in this thread saying the remake is irredeemable garbage. They are spastic retards who are more mad about it being on the switch 2 than anything else. They were going to make up ways to shit on it no matter how it turned out. I'm not saying every change is ideal, but it's pretty easy to spot the fuckwads shitting their pants over nothing from the people with genuine thoughts who have played both versions.
>>751582060holy fuck you're retarded and autistic.I've listed more than enough for you. no I don't need to list every difference. You already know full well that demake is unfaithful and is not representative of the original. You can tell this right from the first cutscene and it continues throughout the game. stop trying to bullshit and weasel your way out of it.
>>751582468You gave the numbers. Back it up.
>>751571846Get the fuck off this website, squeaker
mmmmmmmmmmm yes daddy Nintendo please feed me more like the good little goy I am
>>751581832>never played originalopinion invalid
>>751582503>Prove that gravity exists by listing everything that's ever dropped to the groundautistic. incapable of basic social intelligence. get help.
>>751581164>links oot voiceYou didn't play the game>iconic UI soundsyep, didn't play it.I know your shitting on the remake to act like you are hardcore or some shit, but ffs at least do it with a remake that ACTUALLY IS UNFAITHFUL.
>>751583053fake fan. you definitely didn't play the game if you didn't instantly notice the downgrade in links voice. which was replaced for no reason.
>>751581593Can we bind items to L and R, and swap with ZR yet?
>>751583467you should be able to bind items to your dpad slots too.the fact that they're locked as specific items is so fucking retarded and such a downgrade from superior customization and binding in OOT 3D.
>>751574534>>751574583>>751574587The actual fuck. The original game never did anything like this, Navi would just ask to speak occasionally and fuck off. You're basically telling me the people playing through the remake are just doing exactly what the game tell them to at all times and hence don't' notice this shit?
Always the OG first
>>751579450>3D is a the best way to expeciance OOT accurately and faithfully for those who think OOT 64 is too uglyNo, it already fucks up the hookshot with auto-surface detection and add the stupid enterable stones, on top of having bad animation and piss lighting.SoH is straight up superior in close to every way.
>>751583906Works fine on my 3ds
>>751571846The N64 version has the best atmosphere and cutscene direction, and is the best full package. The PC port means you can get it in high resolution and smooth FPS, with some minor rare visual and audio issues, and the caveat that the high resolution breaks some graphical illusions.The 3DS version has better framerate, smoother controls, and makes the most frustrating area of the original game less confusing to navigate, but the atmosphere suffers from the cartoonier animations, brighter graphics, and slightly botched cutscenes, and it also has worse audio quality--in fact, 3DS sound still isn't even properly emulated yet, 15 years later.The Switch 2 remake has more modern controls for new players, better atmosphere than the 3DS version, and okay cutscenes with horrible English voice acting. It also reduces friction substantially from the original game, with many puzzles and secrets dumbed down or made vastly more obvious. However the combat is slightly harder even given that you automatically shield when targeting. It's alright but I recommend the original version first, maybe the 3DS version if your eyes just can't handle N64 graphics.
>>751571846OG ONLY. The demakes are gay.
>>751583467IIRC there are some mods that are trying to do this but I haven't tried them myself.
>>751571846Do you have the original N64 hardware? noDo you have a 90s 3D era mindset? noThe original N64 zelda would melt your zoom zoom brain, you wouldn't understand how a character, in a 3D space, can't jump. You will not fathom why oh why the camera is so fucking badStay safe, kid, do drugs instead
>>751581693No, not at all. This remake has soul and all that. I think its gorgeous. Its just too bad that its Cocomelon tier with the dungeons. I am not hating on it. I will play it again when they release Master Quest mode. Then, it probably will surpass the original.
>>751578487what mods brother
>>751584067>I will play it again when they release Master Quest modeSo much of the remake's value basically rides on what it does with future DLC. If it pulls off a proper second quest that reinvigorates the game and doesn't pull punches, it will likely become the definite edition of the game. If it fails at this the original will still reign supreme.
>>751571846pc port of the original if youre interested in experiencing the game the way it was designed modern one if youre a goy
>>751572505>Anyone shilling OG is a disingenuous shitposter or genuinely mentally ill.people that play OOT to this day have legit autism. It's just that. And of course, they can't move on from their hyperfocus
>>751577853>no response from the nitpickerheh, ironic
>guy dropping OOT3D screens with kino modsLIST THEM NIGGER
>>751584127A bunch. The main ones are>Single Screen Experience>Better Vanilla Link>1998 Ganon Battle>N64 Font>Darker Dungeons>Vanilla brightness tweaks>Blood in the well>The fire temple restored theme >>751579904There isn't one big pack but there's a guy called hugamuffin on gamebanana thats done a bunch of good ones. Plus a code to shove in the cheats to make Ganon's blood read again10514F78 0000007810514F7C 0000007810515194 0000007810515198 00000078
>>751571846None of them. Zelda is overrated, overhyped trash
>>751584402>readI meant red fuck me
>>751574583>>751583702Oh fuck off. The original game was LOADED with Navi interruptions, especially at the beginning. I don't think I've had her interrupt me once during a dungeon.
>>751571846I have no experience with the remake and I haven't looked deeply into it, but I'd rec N64 over 3DS.
Remake is a near perfect adventure game, Master Quest and Hero Mode will no doubt push it over the edge to perfection. Only possible way to make it better is if they add an official randomizer mode
>>751574534How do you get any of these interactions? Navi hasn't said 1 word to me outside a cutscene (i.e. with another NPC in it).
>>751584402What's the N64 UI mod?
>>751584562>>751574906Oh so he's straight up lying, got it. I was wondering why I wasn't hearing from Navi AT ALL.
i dont have an s2 and never played the 3d version but the links awakening remake was vastly superior to the original in every way imaginable and basically make the original unplayable. i can easily imagine the remake being the same based off what ive seen. that said, the original has a certain atmosphere and feel that really can't be recreated imo. i would have to say it's worth playing first so that it doesn't get ruined by downgraded QOL features.
>>751584590Nostalgic UI for SSE
>>751584067I really don't see it, the dungeons were never particularly difficult and most of their whacky mechanics that got removed added very little. For anyone that played the original, it makes no difference, as they already knew all the arbitrary "gotchas" that they like to pretend were puzzles. I never bothered finishing Master Quest (gc) precisely because after a few dungeons I felt it added nothing of value to the game by moving things around, it was ultimately the same game.
>>751584635I haven't bothered with the Awakening remake. I thought they only changed the visuals, and I don't particularly fancy the style. What could they even change that makes the original unplayable? For OoT you have some really clear wins like having a second stick to control the camera, or jumping, or the fluidity of combat (and some enemy pattern changes) being an improvement despite the autoshield nonsense.
>>751584767NTA but literally just having more buttons is great.
>>751581263Kek! You are really fake review. Nice Try
>>751575284would
>>751581164>links diving animationThis is in the game but it only plays under very specific circumstances.
>>751584562you need to deviate from the "correct" path, or not explore places much
The original is the best the one with Islam references and the one that have blood
>>751584767pretty much what this amazon said >>751584796 and i happen to like the art style. it feels true to original but superior in everyway. that said im just assuming oot remake has even more pervasive QOL features so the og would be a significant downgrade if you didn't experience it first.
Master Quest will drop and then what will be the excuse? too many polygons? Kek stay mad
>>751584862no it genuinely does not look good at all
>>751584767>or jumpingThis is a loss. Now you have to press an extra button for literally no reason at all. It's not a platformer, there are no difficult or precision jumps, it's just an extra nuisance for no reason. The original's context jump was a much better way of handling movement.
>>751585048Perfectly functional things don't equate fun my dude. For all the complains about difficulty, a previously automated task that you basically couldn't fuck up at all with all platforms being perfectly spaced, becoming manual, should be welcome.
>>751571846its shocking how horrible the new one looks
>>751585020You can still live a fulfilling life as a tard
Remake needs more save files
