What are your favorite moments from Sonic games?
That moment when Amy tied up Sonic in her room and she took turns with Blaze, Rouge, and Cream raping him into submission.
>>751615170Sonic 06 did the meme first unironically speaking, it’s now 20 years old
The moment where Sage put a screwdriver handle up her rear and discovered she likes having her butt stuffed.
>>751615170Pretty much any moment with Shadow. He's the coolest.
Nothing will ever top the final boss sequences of Sonic & Knuckles. They've been trying to recreate it repeatedly but it never matches it.
>>751615768They ended a Sonic game with fighting a super mech in Eggman's space base only two times, what are you talking about?
>>751615170>>751615531pfft i get it
>>751616112Please explain it for me
>>751616518new meme making fun of ian's writing making Sonic overly sentimental
>>751615531Tbf teenage redhead would make everyone soft in the heart and hard in the dick.
>>751616618Kek he looks like he put on weight
>>751615170
>>751616618>where's shadow?>:^)
If Ian was writing this, Sonic would start crying like a bitch and give a gay little speech.
>>751615170>play the beach level a couple of times>delete the game shortly after
>>751615170Mine was when King Dodon Pa announced a new racing tournament but everyone is only allowed to drive in these stupid little boxes.
This one
>>751618847>>751618669>>751618606>>751618528>>751618385HOLY SHIT finally a Sonic threadSonic fags I need your helpI want to play all the Sonic games but I know not all of them are good. Which are the good 2D and 3D entries? I've only played Sonic 1. Should I just play Generations + Frontier and call it a day?
You guys just want Sonic to be boring, It's good that we have creatives like Ian Flynn and the Sonic Movie guys working on the franchise instead of you fuckers
>>751619047Generations and Mania are ones everyone loves, you can't go wrong with those.
>>751619047Sonic 1Sonic 2Sonic 3&KSonic ManiaSonic Adventure 1/2. Not 100% good but you may as well because you’ll understand the autistic screechings in the threads betterSonic/Shadow Generations (both are good)That’s it.
>>7516190472, 3&K, both Sonic Adventures, Generations and Mania.
>manchildren when their blue animal mascot franchise for kids doesnt have mature and nuanced enough writing for their refined palates
>>751619047>I've only played Sonic 1.What did you like and dislike about it?
>>751615170Sonic is just generic corporate slop at this point, everything released from the franchise these days has to be heavily sanitised and done from the lens of "THE BRAND", which just inherently makes it lame and uncool.The dialogue at the end of the new short about muh friends and mutual respect was just downright dreadful and felt like HRspeak straight out of ChatGPT rather than Sonic. This franchise is so fucked.
>>751619047Fuck, does anyone have that paste with the releases of the first 3 games
>>751616618Should we make memes about his constantly refusing to write Eggman as Eggman and not Robojoker?Should we make memes about his incessant OC bloat because he throws a tantrum every time he's told to actually write the game characters in-character?Should we make memes about how he's diet-Penders by his own admission?No, let's make memes about Sonic acting in-character. lmao
>>751619224>No CDYou should be jailed
>>751619394cd is ass and one of the only games i'd recommend people just watch a playthrough of instead of playing as the gameplay is the only bad thing about it
>>751619461Ill kill you
>>751619224I've heard that Sonic Advance games are pretty good.
>>751619394I forgot about it, thank you for reminding me.It’s still ass. Visually, audibly and thematically beautiful but it’s a game, it’s supposed to be fun.
>>751619259I liked this songhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1aXXX_oqP8&list=PLB1223F61F39B601C&index=2I don't think I disliked anything, maybe it was way more platforming than I expected? I thought Sonic was more about running
>>751619662You get more running in the next games. Sonic 1 tried too hard to be Mario.
>>751619370I have Needlemouse Beginnings.zip on my pc, I can toss it in we transfer and post the link, I guess. Will post when uploaded unless someone else does in the mean time.>>751619047>2Dmost of them, 1, 2, 3&K (two games combine into one), Mania, Advance 1, 2 and 3, Rush 1 and 2, Colours>3Dharder to say, I can find fun in most of them until 2011 but it really depends on the person.SA1, SA2, Heroes (jank but great if you get good at it), Shadow (meh), Unleashed (use the recomp, grab a complete save file to skip the werehog if you hate it and just play the day stages), GenerationsIf you are up for fan games, Sonic GT, P06 and Project Hero Rewired are all pretty nice imo
>>751619510I’ve only played 1, it’s alright but the last two zones seriously tank the games enjoyability for me. Egg rocket is awful and the whole games screen crunch is bad.
>>751619047Sonic 2, 3&K, CD, Adventure 1 & 2, HeroesAdvance 1, 2, 3, Battle (Arena Fighting Game), Rush, Unleashed, Colors, Generations, Mania, Frontiers.Parts of Heroes and Unleashed might get on your nerves.Also Sonic Robo Blast 2 is a fangame, but has a solid mod scene so you can get a lot out of it.I've seen demos of other impressive attempts, but didn't keep up so I don't know if they're finished. There's an annual fan game thing called SAGE you can check out videos for if you want to see if anything catches your interest.
>>751619376>Sonic acting in-character
>>751619906I should have also said CD, not sure why it skipped my mind since I do like it. Guess I just don't replay it enough.
>>751615170Nu-gen fans piss me off trying to come up with some lore or personality for sonicHe is the exact same personality as Goku
>>751619510They are, but 2, 3 and Rush suffer from what we call "Dimps Level Design". The devs behind those games love putting bottomless pits all over and sudden stops that either end with a spike up the ass or a block coming down to crush you if you don't move in time. Another fault is getting the Chaos Emeralds, in Advance 2 you have to collect all Seven with Sonic in order to get the True Ending, because Emeralds aren't share between characters, so don't waste your time getting them with the others... unless you want to play as Amy, in which case you HAVE to get ALL seven with EVERY character.In Advance 3, you have to find all 10 Chao in each set of Zones (with some of them behinds gates that need to be smashed with a team involving Knuckles), and THEN you have to find a Key in one of the levels, beat the level (you can't quit out of it once you grab it) and then go do the Special Stage. Luckily no characters are locked away this time.Aside from all that, I recommend them. Gave us one of the most unique levels in Sonic history, Music Plant, a Zone I REALLY wish Sega would use again.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKkrRpyBkws
>>751619047>>751619370>>751619906Help yourselveshttps://we.tl/t-r1SSrCO7gVZHqRuJ
>>751619047Basically everything but '06 (but project '06 exists now if you DO want to play it), Dark Chronicles, "Sonic 4", and boom are good.Ymmv if you'll enjoy them.Lost World and Forces are kind of eh because Sega was going through financial trouble while making them.People say Shadow and Heroes kind of sucks and don't really elaborate on it because the issue is trivial to bypass these days, but that's mostly because you have to play through the game 21 and 4 times through to unlock all the stages, for Heroes you can just pick whether you want to play on Easy (Rose) Medium (Sonic) or Hard (Dark) decide if you want to play the Chaotix missions and download a 100% save to play the Last Story.Shadow is much the same case, decide if what way you want to play through the game, and if you want to play the rest of the stages download a 100% save.Unleashed even werehog gameplay isn't really bad but the SINGULAR FIGHT THEME can get fairly obnoxious.Spinoffs are spinoffs.
>>751619906>>751619971>>751620310We're recommending Rush now?Am I the only one who remembers how much the game was hated because it's a bad game
>>751620315Thanks Onii-chan
>>751620482>Am I the only one who remembers this shit I made upYes it released in 2005 retard before le every sonic game was bad was invented as a meme.
>>751620482>Am I the only one who remembers how much the game was hated because it's a bad gameLiterally the only issue with it are the occasional beat all the enemy rooms and some of the bosses taking too long.Fantastic game otherwise so it must have been your dementia making you remember something like that
>>751620253This, he’s supposed to be a static character that others learn from. That’s why every game had a new sonic friend who had issues to sort out.He already has his shit together, he’s too busy being cool and doing whatever he wants to care about morals or friendship
>>751616082Going super to fight the final boss is a staple trope in most sonic games after S3&K which is what he meant, not the literal setting of super sonic vs the space robot thing
>>751619461It's like 30 minutes long and the best game in the franchise, fuck off you contrarian queer
>>751620614>Yes it released in 2005 retard before le every sonic game was bad was invented as a meme.stfu heroes/shadow apologist
>>751620482I was going to do a whole paragraph of forewarnings big and small, but if the anon got through Sonic 1 with little complaint there's no sense babying people.
>>751620942I wasn't even thinking about The Doomsday Zone, the normal final boss is more memorable to me.
They are so damn cute together.
what is it with sonic's face, i don't get the meme
>>751621239That and Super Mecha Sonic are way very fights, the super fights have always been kinda boring honestly
sonic fans have bad tastes in sonic games, i now understand why theyre generally so bad. its because sonic fans want garbage and sega realizes this
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>>751621329Animators finally remembered he has a brow, but the current writer is a super hero comic and steven universe fan so schmaltzy way too on the nose sentimentality.
>>751619047>I want to play all the Sonic games but I know not all of them are goodGet 70% of them are not good, so forget about playing all of them.
>>751621329Its just him being fully and faithfully in character
>>751615170Metal Overlord.
>>751619376You have no idea what youre talking about and its so cute that you think you do
>>751621329 >>751616618I don't even read the comics, but I get the gist.It's not just with Sonic either, any work handed to writers who aren't the original have a penchant to heavy hand characters that are simple by design.
>>751621597Not going to lie, My estimation of Sonic as a hedgehog just fucking plummeted.
>>751621424it's just 1-3&K, Mania & Generationsthere is literally nothing else worth playing most games' content is like 80% bad
This fanbase will never be happy.
>>751621712generations isn't good
>>751621764the fanbase was extremely happy with Generations and Mania, and thought that they'd expand on them
>>751621386That's because they're glorified victory laps that don't even play like Sonic games usually do.There isn't even any level design, you're either in a claustrophobic arena or you're auto scrolling.
>>751621901Did you play superstars? That shit proved those 2D super fights outstayed their welcome. That god damn Dragon took me like 30 minutes
>>751621682It's from the anniversary short where Sonic reminisces and he makes this weird face at Shadow, towards the end of ithttps://youtu.be/_yocC5AIQ5MThe rest of the animation is pretty cool though
>>751619047As a lifelong Sonicfag, I like and would recommend>1 - 3 & Knuckles, CD, Mania>Adventure 1 and 2>Advance 1 - 3, Battle (these are a shaky recommend. I haven't actually played these in years)>Rush & Rush Adventure>Unleashed (recomp), Sonic x Shadow Generations, Frontiers>Sonic & All Stars Racing Transformed, Sonic Racing Crossworlds, Team Sonic Racing (much less so than the other kart racers, but the driving is still fun and it has tracks that aren't in the other two), Riders>Tails Adventure (nothing special, but a neat little proto-metroidvania. Probably the most interesting of the 8-bit games), Sonic Chaos, Sonic 1 8-bit
>>751619047An actual list of the good games from a non jaded fan with reasonable tasteSonic 1, 2, 3&k, cdSonic advanced 1,2 and 3 if you want more 2d gameplaySonic rush 1,2, and colors ds(rush 3) Adventure 1 and 2 are both worth a playthroughHeroes and unleashed(recomp) are both worth at least a try but no one would get mad at you for dropping themGenerations (and shadow gens expansion)ManiaFrontires is a mixed bag but also worth a try
>>751622015I can't get over how the franchise, despite lasting for 35 years, 25 of those are just nostalgia bait
>>751621981I don't think they were ever good.The best Super Sonic fight we ever got until Frontiers was Perfect Chaos, which was designed better in Generations.
>>751622015>The problem has spilled over more than I thoughthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geLucCUG4i0
"Heh, Good times, Mephiles... I still miss you. I know there's good in you, Mephiles."
>>751621597Wait a minute
>>7516190472D is pretty consistently good. Genesis trilogy, Mania, CD, Advance trilogy, and Colors DS are all solid. The Rush games have great 2D levels, but 1 has some of the sloggiest bosses in the series beaten out only by Superstars, and Rush Adventure has a ton of mandatory special stage-esque sections. Both great if those aren't dealbreakers.3D's more variable in both quality and actual gameplay, so you'll have to find your own footing. Generations and Dream Team are the safest recs. I had issues with the Adventure games and Frontiers but liked them too.
>>751619253Kek, There's nothing mature or nuanced about sonic adventure or sonic 3 or sonic unleashed, it's all literally just cool characters going on some big adventure and doing cool shit, that's all what we ask for, but even that is too much for SEGA sometimes
>>751622423>25 hour game>villain kills the hero in 3 seconds out of nowherepeople tend to forget just how terribly bad this game was
>>751618847hehe
>>751622307nostalgia bait only really started in generations 2011 and people were cool with it, so more like 20 years of original stuff and then 15 of rehash.
>>751620634The beat the enemies rooms aren't a big annoyance. You pretty much just boost left and right to sweep the rooms. It gives you a nice feeling of power, I thought.I never thought the boss were bad, either. Somewhere in the mid range for the series. I'm playing Superstars right now, and that takes the fucking cake for worst bosses in the series. Screeches the game to a fucking halt, and they're in almost every level.
>>751622561He knew Sonic had ADHD and used it against him. Smarter than Eggman desu
>>751622660Sonic 06 literally has copy pasted sections from SA1 and 2
>>751622730You're right but also that was meant to be more of a reboot with shiny new next gen graphics.
>>751622561I'm honestly baffled that people think that 06 ever had a good story. That fixing the bugs is all that was needed to salvage the game.
>>751619558It Is FUN you fucking casualIt also has the best special stage
>>751619047I'm gonna break these out into tiers of what are the must plays then keep going down until you want to stop>MUST PLAY2, 3&K, Mania, Adventure 1 & 2, Generations (incl Shadow Gens)>If you like all of the aboveCD, Advance Trilogy, Rush Duology, Unleashed, Colors>If you really want more8-bit games, Black Knight, Superstars, FrontiersThere's also good fangames like Robo Blast 2, GT, and Triple Trouble 16-bit that I'd recommend
>>751622838>That fixing the bugs is all that was needed to salvage the gameP06 proves the game can be fun with enough fixes and tweaks.It's only the story which nobody has ever even attempted to salvage.
>>751615170What do we even call this maymay
>>751615170Sonic Colors on Wii being the first Sonic game in who knows how long that WASN'T a Super Sonic fight. Also Colors is the only good 3D Sonic.
>>751625061Dead in two weeks when Paramount puts out the trailer for the fourth movie.
>>751615170Taking the question at face value, Vertical Limit in Sonic Rush. It always felt stylistically and aesthetically like what they were trying to sell Sonic games as in the 90s,
>>751621234If sonic 1 filtered you youre the one that needs to be babied
>>751615234Damn I don't remember that. When did that happen
>>751619047The only positive thing about Frontier is that Sage was a good new character to add.
>>751624071Sure, any bad game can be good if you change it enough to be a different game
>>751622561That's true of Chrono Trigger too and no one cares.
>>751626154Sage sucks unless you're a fag who's into loli porn.I'm surprised that awkward sequence in Frontiers where Sage sings over a montage of her and Eggman chatting in cyberspace isn't joked about more.
My point was how many people come to it expecting gofast and spindash, which the anon noted but didn't complain over, so they have the right mindset for everything else.>>751626081 on the other hand need to do something about that compulsion to find the slightest thing to be catty.
>>751626821Is it ok now to say that I think Eggman having a wholesome daughteru is kinda gayGranted I didn't finish Frontiers since the overworld was boring
>>751627171"Just a guy"?!?
>>751627335>Is it ok now to say that I think Eggman having a wholesome daughteru is kinda gayit's the biggest character assassination the series has ever scene
>>751622542I'll also add more to this.In 2010 SEGA got rid of the pre-existing sonic writers and replaced them with cartoon writers Pontac and Graff, this happend because SEGA wanted the dumb kids audience and by the time Sonic Forces released all the characters were turned into uncool one-dimensional caricatures of their former self, the fans rejected this enshittification, it's obvious that some outsiders didn't like seeing sonic fans having actual standards so they started telling them to just accept garbage.And I take back what i said about older sonic games not being mature, since we used to have stuff like Gamma's story in Sonic Adventure, Sonic Team didn't need to add something like that to a sonic game yet they did, it's why everyone respected them back then.
>>751626616>he didn't kill lavos by checking the bucket before that happensskill issue
>>751627441Is it really?SA2 has shown that despite his evil, Eggman can be sentimental to those whom he considers family.
>>751627335Eggman is a manchild who's in love with himself. Turning him into some kind of dad character that says "Daddy loves you!" just makes him lame. It also needlessly pushes him closer to being a Bowser clone. Metal Sonic gets a pass since he's more of a guard dog that Eggman unchains every once in a while - an extension of Eggman's destructive capabilities.Sage might have worked better if she was the one insisting to everyone else that she's Eggman's daughter, with a perpetually annoyed Eggman having to constantly clarify that's not actually the case. Basically restrain the "Egg Family" shit into a single character as a semi-recurring bit alongside her being his go-to administrative AI.
>>751626291This.Project 06 isn't even good.
>>751627335I always thought it was weird seeing how protective Eggman is towards Sage knowing that she's just a AI made by accident. It'll be one thing if she was a actual human but she's basically a bot. He doesn't even treat his other manmade daughter the same way.
>>751616618>>751617647dying at these posts lmao
>>751619047I love almost all the 2D entries but start with Sonic 2 on the Genesis. Hell, track down a copy of Sonic 2 Absolute.
Eggman.... Please change your ways...
>>751628126He was stuck in cyber space and defenseless with her as his only interaction and protection for 6 months. Most people are going to develop feelings for someone when they're in a situation like that.
>>751628303Why did they write Sonic like this?
>>751628303
>>751616618Man I've watched that short for the first time today and it really opened my eyes. I like Sonic but I don't remember the series in the past sounding this super sentimental and tear jerking or some shit.Definitely felt like I'm watching a shitty Steven Universe episode what the fuck.
sex with honey the cat
>>751627335The story and writing have as much to do with why I didn't play Frontiers as the game itself. Probably the most tone-deaf thing they've written since Shadow the Hedgehog.
>>751628529well i guess it's an anniversary short
>>751616618>>751622015why blame Ian when it's an animation and direction issue?
>>751628489They want the Steven Universe audience.
>>751628303Why doesn't Sonicman just kill the Jokernik?
>>751628649What people dont want to admit is that both sega AND ian want sonic to be this way
>>751615170She doesn't love him you deranged creep
>>751628520kek
>>751627335>eggman annoyed that sonic damaged metal and promoting violence This is good. This is eggman. Im ok with a protective eggman like this. >eggman literally just having a daughter and acting like a dadWtf. They already understood how a protective eggman looks, but they still went with the daddy eggman angle. I dont get it.
>>751628303We discussed this already.
>>751628743I agree, rape does not involve love
>>751628694a very handsome Tails picturegrip his butt and kiss him on the lips
>>751628649>>751628728Don't forget people blaming Ian for shit going on in the comic when he's often not the one writing it at all
>>751629117>I could carpet bomb him any dayThis line was always retarded when Eggman DID try to carpet bomb Sonic in 3&K and it failed
>>751620940I'm really annoyed at writers not understanding static characters. Like, the main Ace Attorney writer threw a tantrum because Phoenix's character arc is done. Bitch, this is a detective story. Detectives series go on forever with the same protagonist. You explores themes with the characters of the week. The detective himself doesn't need to change.
>>751629243Phoenix Wright is not a static character though
>>751620253>>751620940>>751629243If you can't do anything at all with protagonists but to leave them merely eyes for audience to see other characters going through development, then you might as well just cut out the protagonists altogether and focus wholly on ones you can do development with.Also Wright is not static at all, what the fuck do you mean? Wright literally goes through changing shit himself.
>>751629526He wasn't in the original trilogy, no. After that he should have become one, as he is the face of the franchise. Attempting to pivot to Apollo was idiotic. That's like writing a Sherlock Holmes story without Sherlock.
>>751628529the true Sonic Heroes experience
>just seeing sonic edited slightly to have his eyes half closed is making me laugh like an idiotThis fucking thread, what has this site done to me.
>>751629630>That's like writing a Sherlock Holmes story without Sherlock.Phoenix Wright was in the Apollo Justice game though
>>751629653? Sonic heros is nothing like that
I like Silver.
>>751629629You know most RPGs don't have the protagonist be full characters, right? There's no law saying the protagonist has to be the main character of a story. Especially in video games, where that is often not desirable,. It's a "rule" from movie scriptwriting.
>>751629220To be fair I'm pretty sure Eggman means he could lock in on Sonic's home whenever he wanted with an entire fleet and just erase it compared to whatever leftover arsenal he had during the events of S&K (and thinking about it it's crazy Knuckles willingly let's Eggman set his island ablaze, no questions asked). Like he clearly has the resources to commit genocide but that's not why he's in the game. Eggman wants to break Sonic's spirit and be witness to it when it happens.
>>751627836it's jarring because Sage turns into a good guy at the end so it doesn't make sense for her to care about Eggman sinice he wants to kill Sonic whom Sage finds admirationn for
>>751629795>There's no law saying the protagonist has to be the main character of a story.Then why bother putting said protagonist at all in the story if you can't do anything with him on development? Why bother bloating shit? Stories can't be always just "protagonist does thing of the week" forever or it will just get real bored.No one reads DC or Marvel comics PURELY and STRICTLY for main characters.
>>751629220>>751629117>>751628303the real problem here isn't Eggman, the problem is that they just can't write villains for shit. The second best villain they have is a mindless robot
>>751615170not this one
>>751619047Good:Sonic Adventure
>>751615170Every time Amy flashes her panties
>>751619047>2D SonicsYou might as well play most of them, they're simple enough games:1, CD, 2, 3 and Knuckles, Advance 1, Advance 2, Advance 3, Rush, Rush Adventure, Mania, Superstarsif somehow you get through all of those there's like 5 Game Gear games but they're less fun imoPico Park came out this week but Idk what it actually is, think it's just a multiplayer thing>3D SonicOptions are extremely limited due them being a combination of jank and bloated with unfun shit:Adventure 1, Adventure 2, SxS Generations, FrontiersThat gives you a sampler of all the major gameplay systems in the best possible light, so if you like any one of those you can then pick out some of the less good games in the same style
HEY GUYS WHY DOESNT THE JOKER AND BATMAN JUST KILL EACH OTHER
>>751630514because the writers can't write better villains
>>751628303What the fuck is this?
>>751630514Holy crap, you deconstructed the story. My mind is blown
I really should read the idw comics. They look like they have some good art.
>>751630514what if sonic meets the joker
>>751630865You're welcome
>>751630903they had a crossover event and they didn't
Western writers don't understand Sonic. They treat him like a classic superhero, even doing the hole "villain confronts Batman about the no killing rule" shit. Sonic would not care. He does whatever he feels is personally right without relying on external validation. He's a very simple person to understand.
>>751630992That's a nice word by word bot post from /sthg/ you got yourself there.
I REALLY REALLY hope cosmic eternity is used in the next movie. Or look alike.
>>751628303Sonic expressing feelings of tedium here just cues the reader to feel the same.Why would you deflate your own premise?Remember when Luke ridiculed the cycle of heroics to Rey? Remember how deep and thrilling that was to sit through?Huh? It wasn't?! Well ain't that some shit.
>>751615234>>751626126How do we feel about Shadow's choice?
