>Ingrid explicitly stated to be the wielder of the code holders>In Street Fighter Alpha 3 Max, it is revealed that Bison's Psycho Drive is powered by a cold holder>Ingrid says she is taking back her power>Idiots online can't read and think Ingrid is the source of psycho power instead of having a conduit that amped psycho power in the psycho drive>Localizers ignore all the Japanese dialogue and change half to the cast's to reflect this internet misconception that she is the source of psycho powerThe literal lore of psycho power in SF6 is based on localizers canonizing a misconception when the Japanese version doesn't have any of this.WHY CAN'T THEY JUST TRANSLATE?!
The lines they changed to fit the gamefaqs misconceptions:Bison:>「その力、探らせてもらおう……!>"I shall investigate your power...!"Chun li:>君の能力は従来の物理法則を超越しているが、この世界の法と秩序は依然として適用される。身元を明かせ。"Your abilities defy conventional physics, but the law and order of this world still apply. Identify yourself."JP:>興味深い変則的事象だが、結局のところ、帳簿を乱すものに過ぎない。>"A fascinating anomaly, but ultimately a disruption to the ledger."Ed:>お前が誰であろうと、何者であろうと知ったことか。俺の頭から出ていけ!>"I don't care who or what you are, stay out of my head!"Cammy:>標的を無力化。判別可能な軍の身分証はなし。任務を再開する。>"Target neutralized. No recognizable military ID. Resuming mission."
And here is the original SFA3 Gameplay of Ingrid's story that explicitly states that her code holder powered the psycho drive, NOT that she is the source of psycho power.Localizers at Capcom USA decided to make this misconception online canon in the english version for no fucking reason.
I wonder if the localize is just a huge ingrid stan and wanted to make that headcanon real because it made her more important
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cool story bro
>>751622681That wouldn't make the headcanon real though. Ultimately, the original Japanese will always have priority over the English translation. Unless the English became it's own continuity which a pipe dream.
>Ingrid is the source of psycho powernew Ingrid canon like
>>751622314>Posted it again award
>>751624952The entire English speaking world is going to believe that the source of psycho power, the main threat in SF4, SF5, and JP's power in SF6 all comes from some random little girl.
>>751625424So? China is 4x the population of the U.S but no one in the west gives a fuck about the Chinese translation of American media.
>>751622314i knew the win quotes and dialogue of a lot of old fighting games were just bullshit made up by the localizers, but i thought that by the time of street fighter 4 or blazblue they had started to just translate stuff. i don't understand why, it's literally putting more effort into making thing worse
There are literally 0 people invested in the sleep fighter lore
>>751626072>Sleep fighter lore
>>751622374This is really cool, nice research. I always thought those win quotes were weird considering that the director specifically stated that Ingrid doesn't use psycho power.>>751622681Honestly a lot of Ingrid's lore is made up due to Ingrid stans wanting to add her into their games. It wouldn't surprise me if they did it on purpose as they already went out of their way to add multi universes into street fighter to make everything including project x zone 2 canon. In that way it's not even that much of a stretch if english-grid is the origin of psycho power.
>>751622314>>751622374Bet they didn't confirm with the devs again just like Megaman ugly American cover, SF ugly westernized illustrations, and Biohazard to RE situation. Then just told them when it was too late.
>>751622314>Psycho Drive>cold holderi dunno anything about SF lorewhat are these supposed to be?
>>751622314>>751622374>>751622438I'm always up for laughing at localizers, but you're gonna have to be more specific op.Wtf are you even talking about.Please state your opinion using this format:-name of gaem and what is it about-nature of the problem-specific examples (side by side JP-ENG-TROON)-background note on the trannylator's mental illness that led to the made up translationThank you
>>751622314>WHY CAN'T THEY JUST TRANSLATE?!localizers are failed writers, that's why they insert their fanfiction
>>751628795Because they believe shit like "this is a localization not a translation". Localization has no purpose without translation, if you're converting text from one language to another. They actively ignore an essential component of their work because being a "Localizer" sounds fancier.
>>751628795But why insert gamefaqs threads into the games official translation?
>>751627636Psycho drive is the evil machine in SFA3 that lets bison turn human misery into psycho power which lets him live forever somehow too. In Ingrid's and only Ingrid's arcade mode it's mentioned that bison steals Ingrid's gold hairpiece thing which he uses to help power the psycho drive. The translation gets confusing since Ingrid says that it's her power without it being really clear that it's the gold thing and not psycho power itself.A code holder is a concept from a cancelled game called capcom fighting all-stars which was supposed to be Ingrid's debut game. Since it never came out we pretty much only know that code holders have the powers of gods. I haven't played sf6 world tour yet, so not sure if they expanded on this there, but I think they allude that a code holder is someone who destroys the universe when the inhabitants of said universe start threatening the fabric of reality. Also Ingrid is pretty much a full blown god in sf6.
>>751627636>Psycho drive M Bisons super weapon that amped his psycho powers and was going to blow up half the world>Code holderThe things on Ingrid's head that basically hold the code for the game (the universe).Basically we learned that Ingrid's cold holder was the reason the psycho drive had world ending power. Ingrid took it back after ryu beat bison in street fighter alpha.
>>751630884>With it being clearREAD NIGGA READ:>>751622438
>>751630884She's more like a cosmic janitor. Just cleaning up whenever someone does something that messes with the fabric of reality or slips into the wrong dimension.The whole plot of Capcom fighting evolution was that all the characters had slipped into another dimension/timeline which is why you have street fighter 3 chun li recognizing street fighter 2 guile.
>>751626307Wait where did they confirmed project x zone?
>>751631479Nobody back then knew that "that piece" meant her crest and that it was also the source of her powers. It's a pretty reasonable assumption when Ingrid and Bison are talking about who's power it is to assume that they are talking about the same thing.Also the misconception was spread on the (English) official street fighter encyclopedia. It's not just that some gamefaqs nerds couldn't read, it was misunderstood by capcom usa as well.>>751632070I also remember seeing some JP twitter account saying that she's like ultraman in that she was supposed to destroy the earth but took a liking to it so now she protects it. I should really play WT.Capcom fighting evolution is a different game that was actually released. Capcom Fighting all-stars was supposed to be much more plot focused than the typical capcom fighter of the time.>>751632643In SF6 world tour Ingrid mentions fighting alongside ninjas, robots, and other things which references the cast of PJXZ2.
>>751633454>it was misunderstood by capcom usa as well.I mean if anyone trust Capcom USA not to misinterpret plot at this point. How many times do they need to screw up before people learn?
>>751633725This is critical failures or absolute ingrid standing by localizers
>>751633454Nigga she says to ryu and rose that bison is using "that piece".The ending SHOWS the code holder inside the psycho drive She says that THE CATALYST for the psycho drive was too powerful and she takes the code holder back.There is no possible way anyone with even 6th grade reading comprehension would fail to realize that she is talking about the object not psycho power
>>751633454Source on the official encyclopedia saying she was the source of psycho power?
>>751636116I don't know what to tell you. It's an already vague story with zero background context on Ingrid in a game rife with mistranslations.You seem adamant that her crests are called code holders when that doesn't make sense. These things happen.>>751636252Pic
>>751637251Torch Capcom USA to the ground
>>751622314It's not the first time this has happened with SF6. Unfortunately I can't remember right now the other case. But to give some background to other anons, there used to be a plot guide on gamefaqs that used to have all sorts of translations of obscure Japanese sources for the SF lore. The problem is that the creator would just make shit up when he wasn't 100% certain. That guide is the source of the old myth that Akuma's raging demon would drag the opponent's soul to hell, which ended up in an official Udon comic. People only realized the guide was bullshit when SF4 came out and the creator made up some bullshit about Gouken being a zombie. Anyway, there was a lot of drama with the creator sperging out at people disagreeing with some of his headcanon, and I remember a new plot guide was being made by the SRK forums, which moved to Megashock after SRK went down. But I never checked to see if they finished it or what, and we have wikis now.
How did they get this through in 2026? Surely somebody at Capcom Japan would have noticed that someone was changing all the voice lines to converge on this complete lie that isn't in the original game.
>>751639616>Surely somebody at Capcom Japan would have noticedKek. Hideki has a twitter post talking about getting blindsided by the Biohazard name change to Resident Evil. Which you'd think would be infinitely more obvious.
>>751640146I mean that was actual marketing localization and in the 90s. This is 2026 and they are straight up inserting fabrications to the core lore of the game.You're telling me nobody at capcom noticed all the lines by characters who had previous interactions with M. Bison are suddenly comparing Ingrid to him and saying he is her power source where none of those lines exist in the Japanese version?
>>751641782You can call it marketing localization but that change the fact that people on the Japanese side had no idea. Stuff can clearly change without being noticed.
>>751622314That all sounds retarded either way.
>>751641937*doesn't change the fact
>>751628683All of that info is there in the posts OP made except for an E true hollywood story on some tranny localizer's background, retard.
>>751639616>>751641782it's what this anon said>>751626307>In that way it's not even that much of a stretch if english-grid is the origin of psycho power.SF6 had Bison saying that the names of the 4 kings (not Sagat though) have always been codenames that the kings use interchangeably. His name is Bison, Vega, Balrog or even Shadaloo, all valid. They had Zangief say that he a lot of the time plays the role of a heel despite being a good guy. SF4 had already made changes like making Nash's name Charlie Nash, making the western name canon. My point is, I think Capcom knows most people only know the SF lore through youtube and wikis, and they want to make sure nothing is contradicting the "common knowledge", while trying to unify it with the Japanese canon when possible. Said knowledge has been compiled by the English speaking fanbase.
>>751642375My headcanon is the localizer is a giant ingrid stan that throught >>751637251this was canon. And when they got the scripts for SF6 came in and there was no reference to it. they decided to make it canon because they wanted their precious little girl OC to be the driving centerpiece of the entire SF lore like they always thought.
>>751643353but literally NONE of this misconception about Ingrid being the source of psycho power is in the game it was supposedly state (SFA3 Max), its not in any Japanese game or data book, nor is it at all in the Japanese version of SF6. This isn't "bringing something in" like giving Charlie a first name. This is deliberate fabrication of lore exclusively in the English version of the game. The Spanish and other versions just translated the Japanese lines so there is no Ingrid implication anywhere in world outside of the US.
Another day, another reason to hate localizers.
>>751622314hang all localizers
>>751643474I think it's probably just ignorance from the localizer and a lack of japanese oversight but it wouldn't surprise me if you were correct there.
>>751622314>he think's Street Fighter's stupid ass, inane lore is worth investing any thought power intoStreet Fighter's stories makes Mortal Kombat seem like the LoTR of fighting games.
