I just saw that Atelier Firis was originally released in Japan on November 2, 2016. A little over 10 years have passed, almost a decade in the west too of course.
More than 10 minutes without someone saying ''Atelier games are kusoge'', that's unexpected.
>>751645930Weird dialogue if Firis is dressed...like that.
I never played these even though I really liked Sophie.
>>751646406It's one step forward, one step back, something like that. I like it but I can say why some people consider it the least good game in the Mysterious series and it's not just because of the open world (or at least, big world to explore connected with often large areas).
>>751646517*can see why.
>>751646406It's my favorite of the Mysterious series by a fair margin, and the last Atelier game I really enjoyed in general.
>>751644894Imo it's the last game before they got greedy with DLC after KT took over. I felt the Firis dlc was reasonable but the Lydie and Suelle dlc felt like cut content sold back to us.
>>751647262Give the bread back!
>>751648573Funny image with those outfits, haha.
R.I.P. Sophie.
Played 2/3 of Lydie and Suelle at his point and boy is it feeling like a bummer compared to firis. I already thought Sophie was charming but a bit boring, and L&S just cranks up the tedium. After I slog through it I'm going to play Marie to get way from the modern Ateliers for a while.
>>751650136My experience was similar, though I liked L&S a bit more than Sophie. Marie suffers from being the first game on the series and really lacking in content in some ways (the list of items you can make in particular will seem incredibly small compared to more modern games) but it's still fun, and I like how it's structured.Sophie 2 was an odd one for me, in that I think it has some of the best mechanics in the series if you examine them in a vacuum, but I found the game as a whole kind of tedious after a while. I ended up dropping it despite really liking the alchemy system and environments.
>>751650610Firis had some of the best dialogue.
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>>751650610I own Sophie 2, and I want to get around to it eventually since I have heard a lot of praise for it. >>751650778I think Firis has some good writing overall, both comedic and dramatic. Firis motivations are well established and consistent, and i found a lot of the side stories engaging for what they are (angriff especially). It ain't Shakespeare, but for an Atelier game I'm usually not expecting much.
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>>751651635The everlasting chain of alchemist masters gaslighting their students into wearing frilly clothes (ayesha is an exception though).
>>751651738Heh.
>>751651635Fair enough.
>>751648573Nah, Firis DLC was shameless too, locking characters behind paywall. On top of being a shitty game inferior to Sophie.
>>751651091>>751653548I think this is an example of the good characterization in Firis. Firis grew up in a fucking cave picking rocks, so everyone outside thinking she is a bit of a weirdo fits that image. I think they could have leaned more into that aspect than the "she likes food", but I guess it fits with her goal of getting stronger.
>>751652141Last good nu-atelier.
>>751653916Yeah, I would expect Firis to be pretty eccentric by the standards of people outside her town.Speaking of characterization, it's kind of a shame how Liane was treated in L&S, since she basically lost her entire personality outside of her obsession with Firis.
>>751644894It's been a while, yes. Same for new series. By the way, when's a new gust IP?
>>751654841Yeah, Flanderizarion has hit almost every character that shows up in later entries, especially for the third entries in the trilogies (Meruru, Shallie, L&S). I think Totori is one of the few that did reappearing characters well, and I think it's partly because the same team did both Rorona and Totori.
>>751655904Why won't they let me buy this lady's game on Steam.
>>751656138Douzo, ladhttps://store.steampowered.com/app/1477480/Ciel_Nosurge_Ushinawareta_Hoshi_e_Sasagu_Uta_DX/
>>751656196> Item not available in your region
>>751656529I though (Us) non-japanese weebs always have a japanese VPN on hand for things like this
>>751656598>anon-kun you're such a fucking faggot, holy shitso that's where this image is from
>>751656196I recently got the Ar no Surge + Ciel no Surge pack on Switch through the japanese Eshop since neither of the games were available overseas. Still a whooping 10.8k yen
>>751656674That's about 70$, not too terrible. But what is, is that most of this money would be claimed by Nintendo, Koei-Tecmo and tax authorities.
>>751656630I tried my VPN, but the store region is tied to the Steam account through a setting that can only be changed once every three months.
>>751656835It's roughly 60€ converted to my currency although I have to use prepaid cards to purchase anything on the Eshop. The Ciel Concerto pack is also one of those articles that never went discounted once (just like certain visual novels and shmups there) but I've been on a shopping spree for Japan-only releases after Play-Asia went down due of the whole debacle of php vulnerabilities.
