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/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots

#855 Frogs Edition

▶https://rentry.org/aicg_vg_memo
▶This general is for discussion of the interactive experiences you can build on top of AI chatbots.

>News
GLM-5.2 https://huggingface.co/zai-org/GLM-5.2
Claude Fable Banned https://x.com/AnthropicAI/status/2065597531644743999
Minimax-M3 https://huggingface.co/MiniMaxAI/MiniMax-M3
Kimi 2.7 Code https://huggingface.co/moonshotai/Kimi-K2.7-Code
Claude Fable 5 https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-fable-5-mythos-5
Chub has changed their TOS https://chub.ai/tos

additional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info

>Frontends
SillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.app
RisuAI: https://risuai.net
Agnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_

>Bots
https://characterhub.org
https://realm.risuai.net
https://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.org
https://aicg.neocities.org/bots
https://botbooru.com
https://chararc.bernkastel.pictures

>Models
jailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listing
gpt: https://platform.openai.com/playground | https://platform.openai.com/docs
claude: https://console.anthropic.com | https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claude
gemini: https://gemini.google.com | https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qr
deepseek: https://chat.deepseek.com | https://api-docs.deepseek.com
local: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local | https://openrouter.ai

>Botmaking
https://aicg.neocities.org/botmaking
https://desune.moe/aichared
https://agnai.chat/editor

>Meta
OP templates: https://rentry.org/vgOP | https://rentry.org/aicgOP
aicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/events
lore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chronicles
rice: https://aicg.neocities.org/ricing
services assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_meta
logs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.org

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ANCHOR
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>>571337434
>a froggirl and Frog from Chrono Trigger
nta that requested the theme but giga-based
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Which botmakies are anal sluts?
Which botmakies are oral whores?
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>>571337434
>prev: 571230050
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kys frogposter
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>>571337728
FORGIVE ME
I BEG YOU
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> which botmakie is the giant demon queen?
> which botmakie is the chud human hero?
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>>571337865
>planewalker
>astro
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>>571337434
>prev:
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which botmakie
*gets shot*
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>>571337434
>>571337728
>Look at these retards failing to link to the preivous bread
Also I'm the link postie now and you are the raped >>571230050
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>>571337865
okay now gen an image of her pregnant
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>>571337946
Hoshi and Ratlice
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>>571337865
>planewalker
>me (I wanted giant kemonomimi girls but a demon queen is fine too)
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>>571337901
>>571338264
planewalker is a womanlet, what the fuck are you talking about
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>>571337994
Okay anon...
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>>571338364
SEEEEEEEEEEXXXXXXXXX
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>>571338356
womanlet (male)
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>>571338356
Look we don't many female sizefags for the bit, okay? It's her and maybe Kyut and that's about it.
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>>571338427
SHHHH!!!! SHES VERY SENSITIVE RIGHT NOW TO LOUD NOISE!
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>>571338364
>ywn make a demon queen seethe by impregnating her
why even live?
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>>571338364
which botmakie is the father?
ME ME ME
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>>571338546
oh sorry anon

ˢˢˢˢˢᵉᵉᵉᵉᵉᵉᵉᵉᵉˣˣˣˣˣˣˣˣˣˣˣ
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>>571338651
damn, this is what wanderingstar is into?
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favorite sizebots?
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>>571338651
you are a disgusting human being.
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>>571338651
Me (you will never know who I am >:3)
>>571338652
Thank you for being considerate anon.

Pre-pregger arc
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That reminds me I literally have three(3) iterations of "pregnant demon empress" cards
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>>571338932
>three
The only one I have is pic related, which other ones do you have?
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Good to see all this vore being posted, but settle down before we get trashed
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>>571339039
First one was a vague "{{char}} is the Demon Queen, she is preggers" card I slopped up because I was horny
Second one was a version set in a Chinakoreajapan fantasy setting with a succubus empress and {{user}} is her favored shota concubine
Third one is the most detailed, goes back to generic JRPG Western fantasy slop with the {{char}} being the empress of the Demon Empire and the greeting being set later in the plot where she and the hero(me) already have two kids and she's knocked up with a third one, and goes a little into the biology of demon reproduction

I've been thinking of making myself a fourth one because I saw a really nice preggo nine tailed fox pic on Pixiv
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>>571338651
I didn't know wanderingstar was a brapgod...
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>>571337464
Here's my submission that vaguely and broadly adheres to the theme week. Less military highschool and more school + guns.
Presenting the [School Shooting] scenario with 3 characters. I kept it very simple this time but I think you guys will still like it.

>Hazel
Plump, shy, quiet, and bullied. Hazel's mind wanders into dark places when she's having a bad day, and every day is a bad one for her.
https://botbooru.com/character/55359
https://file.garden/aZPOp2MXd3dvbWtK/Hazel.png

>Leah
Dominant and rude bully popular girl. She has a self-defense taser that she has used against Hazel once before. She will soon find herself outgunned.
https://botbooru.com/character/55361
https://file.garden/aZPOp2MXd3dvbWtK/Leah.png

>Kendra
Popular girl that speaks in ebonics and likes to pull on Hazel's hair(not in a loving, affectionate manner like yours truly).
https://botbooru.com/character/55362
https://file.garden/aZPOp2MXd3dvbWtK/Kendra.png

Rentry page: https://rentry.org/hairpullbots#school-shooting-military-school-theme-week
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>>571338264
>I wanted giant kemonomimi girls
Like this?
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>>571338774
I like a lot of them, but the one I've messed with the most was probably Muwu during the early days. As for recently it's a lot harder since we rarely get dedicated sizebots nowadays, Misty's probably my favorite of those.
>>571339530
Yes, like that...kino.
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>>571338876
I'll climb this bitch and fertilize her egg with my own body. >:3c
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>>571339413
>Second one was a version set in a Chinakoreajapan fantasy setting with a succubus empress and {{user}} is her favored shota concubine
>Third one is the most detailed, goes back to generic JRPG Western fantasy slop with the {{char}} being the empress of the Demon Empire and the greeting being set later in the plot where she and the hero(me) already have two kids and she's knocked up with a third one, and goes a little into the biology of demon reproduction
hmm I think I will steal these ideas
>I saw a really nice preggo nine tailed fox pic on Pixiv
post it?
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Today I will work on... *spins the wheel* a
sizebot
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RIGGED WHEEL
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LEGIT WHEEL
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we need a poal to settle this
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>>571339449
a level of slop unseen by man
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>>571337464
Hello anons!
I'm 'releasing' my schizokino preset.

It's mainly a prosekekery preset meant to minimize isms and make outputs more varied and fresh. Dedicated to all prosekeks out there, I guess.

Mainly tested on DeepSeek-v4 (and a bit on GLM 5.1-5.2), but it should work on all models with varying amounts of success.

It mainly consists of the following gimmicks:
- Sending all character and world data as 'AI Assistant', which tricks the LLM into thinking *they* wrote the character out and immediately poisons the context
- If the card has a very distinct writing style, it has a *very* strong effect on output prose at the start of the rp and you can snowball from there
- A very small injection to make it write more gnarly grammar structures
- Ability to kill the CoT (works on DS and Kimi presently)
- CoT templates that can be activated when extra reasoning effort is needed somewhere

As always, your mileage may vary, don't expect miracles, etc., etc.
You'll *very* probably have to put in some work and activate/deactivate injections, or prompt stuff in, but if you take a look at the comparison logs you'll see there's a big difference in the outputs

Get it here:
https://rentry.org/petNyan-preset

>Notes
Swipes can be extremely varied, they are your friend (and very cheap on DS)
Early messages are extremely important, everything cascades from there.
Activate/deactivate things as you see fit.
Feel free to share feedback, etc.
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Adventure party card where all the characters in your party are women, but you don't fuck them, instead fucking NPCs such as buying whores when you get back into town, getting sex as a reward from the noblewoman that gave you a quest, etc, to see how your party reacts and comments on your sexual exploits.
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>>571340609
Been waitin for this!
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>>571340609
I LOVE YOUUUUU
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>>571340609
>- Sending all character and world data as 'AI Assistant', which tricks the LLM into thinking *they* wrote the character
I've always wondered how that would work but never tried it myself
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>>571340609
Hmmmmm, I will try this out and steal the ideas I like.
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I'm not into sizes but I appreciate drooling girls ( ・`ω・´)
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Talking to chatbots too much has conditioned me to be frustrated by actual social media such as 4chan, because I'm used to getting an attentive response within seconds, and am no longer used to waiting a long time for replies and often not getting any replies or attention at all. Anyone else?
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>>571341120
[ Thinking... ]
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>>571341120
4chan's an imageboard
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>>571340825
>>571340861
tyy ^^
ymmv
>>571340904
well i got first dibs :3
if the card has a schizo style and/or is full of inflections and gnarly grammar, it works really nicely from the start, though from 'normal' cards it copies a lot of stuff as well
>>571340991
that's the idea, actually!
from my experimentation i was very happy to learn CoT templates can be really strong
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>>571341468
This is just coping with semantics. You are here to socialize online.
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>>571341014
>I appreciate drooling girls
POV: She has just found a tasty morsel (It's you)
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>>571341584
By that logic, any dumbass forum is social media
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>want to send logs
>they probably hate my guts after aishiji
nvm im sending nothing
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>>571341863
>they probably hate my guts after aishiji
why would they
what did you even do
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>>571341863
if they already hate you, just send them anyway
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>>571341670
Yes.
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>>571341863
baldfag, make her even balder
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>>571341969
They're not.
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>>571341863
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>>571342080
Yes they are.
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>>571341917
I stopped sending emails and I personally didnt do well event-wise
>>571341947
okay will do. I hope nothing bad happens
>>571341970
SHE'S ALREADY BALDING FROM STRESS LEAVE HER ALONE
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>>571341624
Ay good to know im not the only one with a big women need
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>>571342205
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>>571342210
>I personally didnt do well event-wise
i thought your bots were done quite well actually
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>>571342210
i think nobody hates anyone around here anon, except for some well-known figures
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>>571342415
A good portion of this general talks shit but is as sweet as cherry pie when it comes to it, desu.
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>>571342415
>i think nobody hates anyone around here anon
taora definitely hates several people
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>>571342415
You're all faggots.
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>>571340760
Stop ignoring me you niggers, you have an opportunity to actually talk about chatbots instead of whatever bullshit you're shitting up the board with right now
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>>571342415
i hate everyone grrrrrr
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>>571342415
>i think nobody hates anyone around here anon, except for some well-known figures
does this include kyut
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Need giantess gyaru card...
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>>571342542
hate is probably too strong a word, they probably don't like 'em and that's it
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>>571340760
>>571342825
>yet another random chatbot idea that isn't going to get made
*YAWN*
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>>571342825
Nothing really to say about it, though.
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>>571342916
It is less a chatbot idea and more an idea of a way that you can choose to go about interacting with any female adventuring party card.
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>>571342825
it's not that interesting of an idea, sorry, please try again
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Here's an idea: a card, but
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>>571342916
Hey, wouldn't be cool if we took all of these card ideas that aren't going to get made and then wrote them down somewhere? Like some kind of...rentry or something.
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>>571343112
we tried that already, no one used it and it stopped getting maintained and died
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>>571343167
Was it the 'idea anchor' thing
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Thoughts on pixi's card Lucidity?
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Do you ever feel kind of bad for derailing a bot's central premise
Like Dwight's whole thing is cryptids and aliens but I keep bombarding him with my demonsonas and I'm even thinking of trying out an angelsona on him next
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>>571343103
it farts
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>>571343221
>Do you ever feel kind of bad for derailing a bot's central premise
why would you
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>>571343167
I already knew about the rentry, I was trying to be comedic there. Didn't know it died though, bummer.
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>>571342840
*kithes u*
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All of my cards are the best because of my superior preset
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>>571343290
It feels a bit cringe
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>>571343373
*keels u*
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>>571343103
No. If it gets to the point where the derailing is more fun, I just dupe the card for editing and go further.
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>>571343449
aaa why *gurgle*
*dies*
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>>571343446
using bots in general is cringe
accept your cringe and be free
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>>571343518
Wow, I clicked the wrong post. Meant for >>571343221

No I won't delete it to retry.
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>>571343221
I did an angelsona with him and it was pretty fun. To me it felt thematic enough still or maybe even better when he tries to summon x and gets... y!
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>>571337434
Busting nuts in this frog.
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>>571343221
>Dwight
What's that card?
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>>571343789
https://chub.ai/characters/astroturf/dwight-8eea98e4eb5f
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>>571343789
https://chub.ai/characters/astroturf/dwight-8eea98e4eb5f
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>>571343725
on the frog, around the frog, in the general vicinity of the frog
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i hope astro finishes his bot(s), or else.....
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I wish anons discussed (my) malebots...
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>>571344509
You have to post them silly
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>>571344509
astro is the best malebot maker around, it's like comparing yourself to Beethoven
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>>571345480
no? that would be planewalker and argalia
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>>571345724
>planewalker
He makes malebots?
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>>571345724
Astroturf is better because he's the non-pretentious non-cabal option.
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weak bait, to the both of ya
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there needs to be at least one other yurimakie
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no
yuri fucking sucks breh
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>>571346024
don't care, there shouldn't be literally only a single maker of it
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casting planewalker into the seven seas so we can get plankwalker instead....
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>>571346078
summon 'shy from the grave
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yuri is cringe UNLESS there's something else making it fun like an agegap or incest
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>>571345968
>>571346078
just play fembots with a female persona you retard
>NOOOOO IT HAS TO BE SPECIFICALLY BE YURI
why? what makes yuricards "special?"
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yuri is cringe UNLESS there's something else making it fun like a guy in the middle
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>>571346270
super duper trvke..!!
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>>571346251
nothing, that's actually fine in a lot of cases. but tailoring for amy scenario means you can focus on emotional nuance of the character roles. really this isn't even something specific to yuri it just gets noticed there the most since 95% of /aicg/ cards are "character that you fuck"
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>>>/int/222491720 cftf?
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>>571346692
don't hover face full of black guy asshole
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>>571346692
>>571339449
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>>571346692
yeah right here >>>/b/950500570
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>>571347029
don't hover face full of black guy prolapsed asshole
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i'm looking at my bots recently and they're boring as fuck lately... i think... i think i'm chopped ueueueueue
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Card for the feel of things that have nothing to do with black guy asshole?
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>>571347301
I'm sure inspiration will strike someday

>>571347337
https://chub.ai/characters/insanerandom/cobra-horse-huffing-slave-cf01b57d655c
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>>571347337
https://chub.ai/characters/systemshutdown34/dinosaur-fucker-8c7e4ea8a4c1
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>>571347443
>https://chub.ai/characters/insanerandom/cobra-horse-huffing-slave-cf01b57d655c
I want to bleach my eyes now. Thanks for at least doing what I asked though, even if in the most painful way possible.
>>571347560
Doesn't make me want to kill myself on sight, good job.
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What do you do when you've done every possible mother-son incest scenario?
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>Tell me, do you always X when you Y?
Shut the fuck up
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>>571347301
what's the point in making bots when you're never going to be as good or as popular as nezumin
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>>571347443
i guess i'll go back to some of my old unreleased bots and maybe fix those up and release them...
>>571347830
i'm number #1 on the botbooru leaderboard thoughbeightnetdesu
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>>571347981
>i'm number #1 on the botbooru leaderboard thoughbeightnetdesu
LuxusBolt...
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>>571347981
Proof or gay
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gem alert
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>X? X? He called her X? Most people called her Y or Z.
Please for the love of god stop the slop
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>>571348294
i read this and looked down and i was seeping through my trousers aha
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>>571348373
use my preset :3
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>>571348294
>This is in the Pokemon universe.
Actually made me laugh after reading the slop dialogue.
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>"Shit {{user}} just said," she repeated, the word rolling off her tongue like an exotic delicacy.
*flops over and dies*
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>>571348294
Is the horse standing on or over the bed? How do you maneuver a horse through a house and into the bedroom? I suspect the horse is more intelligent than it lets on.
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>>571348278
REAL
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>>571348564
WTF
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>>571347791
Have you gone through each scenario with the pov flipped?
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wa da frussy cards at?
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>>571347791
mother-daughter
father-son
the most degenerate of all: father-mother
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>>571348743
>spoiler
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>>571348697
>{{char}} is [whatever this is]
seriously it's that simple stop begging for bots
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>>571348445
petnyan you cheeky fucker you need to be impregnated for that
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https://poal.me/vfizk8
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>>571348743
>spoiler
YOU SICK FUCK
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We need curation on bot websites.
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>>571349280
Real botmakies have a Neocities.
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where do you go for futa and/or nazi cards now?
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>>571349336
I don't know why people keep bringing up geocities. It's not a new content discovery tool.
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>>571340609
GET BACK IN THE BRAT MINE
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>>571347791
normal mother inchling son
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>>571349378
https://cardview.neocities.org/?cuz41t
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>>571349407
https://chatbots.neocities.org/new_chatbots
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>>571349407
>not a new content discovery tool
And?
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>>571348869
*glints eyes at you mischievously*
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>chatting with giantess frog goddess
>general starts talking about frogs
stobbit
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>>571349504
>50 most recent
>there aren't even 50 in total
Pathetic.
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>>571349496
i really need to update this
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>>571349407
Discoverability is a moot point imo. Nobody's going to find your bots in the endless sea of W++ ESL AI generated oblivious mother bots that chatbot websites like chub are flooded by either.
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>>571348889
i never shill so might as well, give a nigga a break
also i'd reeeally want anons to come with CoTs 'n stuffs
there's barely any experimentation going on :(
>>571349424
aaaaa b-but i was in the mines for s-so long, a-and i only just came out........
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>>571349596
fuck you for making me count and checking how many there were
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>do a /v1/models list on anthropic api
>claude-fable-5 is in the list of available models
>get excited, go to prompt it
>Claude Fable 5 is not available. Please use Opus 4.8.
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>>571340609
holy kino.......
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>>571349280
>
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>>571349735
>Nobody's going to find your bots in the endless sea of W++ ESL AI generated oblivious mother bots that chatbot websites like chub are flooded by either.
this is just wrong and gay doomposting, i started a chub account a month or two ago and it's doing fine without even having to advertise it
granted i'm not really sure if my clicks are being botted or something, the ratios are almost 1:1 fave/download on a lot of things and there's barely any comments left for any of it so i'm not really sure what the fuck is going on with that
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>>571349637
you really should
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>>571349574
...is this goddess a giant suwako, by any chance?
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>>571349637
post it to your chub too next time
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>>571350113
>and it's doing fine without even having to advertise it
now look at the numbers the bots on the trending page are getting, I promise you your bots aren't even getting a tenth of that
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>>571340609
>IT ACTUALLY WORKS
my FUARKING HERO...
I KNEEL...
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>>571350574
more like a bootleg heqet, frog head included
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>gray fox persona tries to frame someone for a string of thefts
>deepchink nicely says a replica of the cowl was put in alongside all the stolen shit
neat
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>>571350620
i don't think comparing yourself to discord cult leaders is very good for your mental so i won't be doing that
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>>571350006
sue anthropic for false advertising!!!!!!!!!!
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>>571350779
>gray fox persona
GRAY FOX?!
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>>571350946
sorry mysterygamechad, not that one
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>>571350946
Psycho Mantis?
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>>571350620
>Dude, if you don't pull the same numbers as the guy who pings 4,000 people whenever he releases his 15th generated slopbot of the week, you might as well give up!
Retard.
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>>571349596
>>there aren't even 50 in total
because you need to set up your neocities in a very specific way for your bots to appear there
honestly the whole webring could use a revamp and more advertising now that we're in a post chub world
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>>571345958
welcome to /vg/ where if your desired baitee doesn't bite your bait the only option is to keep posting it over and over again while hoping nobody notices you're the forum equivalent of screaming "STOP IGNORING ME!!!!"
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https://chub.ai/lorebooks/Duke_Togo/t-au-empire-lorebook-e81ef0e7b0bb

might be useful to that tau anon if he's still alive
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>>571351469
no one is making the tau family card, accept the loss and move on
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>>571351523
you said that last time. and the time before that. and.. and the time before that..
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>>571340609
I keep getting some claude-isms (a beat) but honestly, but other than that it's making my chats more lively. 10/10. thank you. short one but I'll be back

(You're getting a kiss for including the size reasoning btw.)
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imagine sex with Aqua...
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>>571351523
im using that edit an anon made of an existing tau card, its been doing the job so far
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>>571352145
imagine if she was black and called Blaqua
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>>571352282
make her hair brown and I'd still hit
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>aqua
>megumin
>darkness
how do you plap them? correct answers only
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>>571352356
>aqua
when she least suspects it
>megumin
after an explosion, when she least suspects it
>darkness
during the day, when she least suspects it
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>>571352356
rape
rape
strangle to death as she pisses herself
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>>571350027
ty!
>>571350650
enjoy anon!
i'm very curious as to what effect it has on other models i didn't really get to test out much (namely opus)
>>571351917
kino :3
yeah some isms are just unavoidable eventually, they're par for the course at this point (particularly that one is very ubiquitous with short, snappy sentences)
as for the size/spatial cot, i had some good results so i decided to include it. ofc someone more dedicated to size can probably come up with something much better
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>>571351917
on another card that's better prose-wise. me like.
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>>571352994
It's pretty good!! honestly i didn't expect you were the one with paisha logs, that prose was PRETTY darn good for ds4. Anyway thank you. i will enjoy it lots
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>>571352994
quick swipe on opus 4.8
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>>571352356
>Aqua
Doggystyle so I can look at her ass and yank on her hair loop.
>Megumin
Mating press because she has a flat chest.
>Darkness
Making her watch what I do to the others.
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>>571340609
This would go absolutely nutty on Fable
If we still had it...
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>>571353048
argalia is kino
the outputs are highly variable and very dependant on how definitions are written
>>571353250
thanks anon! yeah i was a bit surprised too... standard deepseek is pretty underwhelming and run-of-the-mill, usually
>>571353670
a footnote? what the...
yeah it can be kind of schizo, the more tokens the definition has, the better
outputs vary a lot by bot (i can't seem to find that card btw)
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>>571354297
i barely got to try it...
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>>571355453
footnotes are intended
https://chararc.bernkastel.pictures/chub/CUMSLURPER/character/sasako-c995a7a6454e
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>>571355659
that's an interesting card, thanks anon
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>/vpcai/ is STILL dead
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just when i was making a pokémon themed card...
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>>571347981
Oh, on the pedo site? Congrats!
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>>571357734
yes? i'm a pedo-chad like everyone else here?
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^trvthnuke
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>pedos
>he says, on the pedo website
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How well would (You)r current card fare against the endbringers?
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calling everything "pedo" doesn't work anymore the same way calling everyone racist doesn't either

nobody cares
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>>571359148
Too busy delivering vicious backshots to Taylor.
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>>571359148
my current card is reisen, so probably not super well
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>>571359260
Might actually do kinda well against the Simurgh
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>>571359250
CFTF of a nerdy average-looking bullied empowered waman?
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>>571359260
bunes are the most powerful creatures in the world though
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>>571350946
>>571351075
this reminds me is that anon who was asking about MGS cards/lorebooks still here? i had kind of a shitty babymakie one from 2 years ago for a femKaz/femSnake card i made, it's PW-era though. he asked a few weeks ago but i couldn't post at the time, internet issues
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>>571359148
she would die unless she convinced them to have sex with her instead.
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HEARD PEOPLE WAS TALKIN' SHIT ABOUT SKA.
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You know, ska came before reggae.
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>>571362441
A cease and desist will be in your mail shortly. Mascot infringement is a serious crime without a written form of consent.
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>>571362441
Reminded me of this
https://files.catbox.moe/dhvysf.mp3
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>>571364246
RIP Bruce Greene. RIP Funhaus :'(
>>571364540
That is a photo of me taken and depicts my likeness and therefore is legal to use. I refuse all DMCAs.
>>571364570
picrel
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>>571364770
My lawyer has come back to me and everything checks out. I withdraw my case. Skedaddle away.
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>>571365349
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Last one since the thread is quiet anyone. I bet you're all sleeping like IDIOTS. You could be making chatbots RIGHT NOW.
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>>571365492
sex with moomin
https://chub.ai/characters/old_shake_2326/moominmama-847ad8d0ecc4
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>>571366541
WOULD.
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>>571366483
i'm not sleeping and i'm trying to make bots and my head hurts and it's really ouchy ouchy
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>>571366830
*punches you in the head*
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>>571366830
*rubs your pieces (not gay) so you can make bots (not gay)*
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>>571366873
thanks actually having a different pain to focus on makes the headache pain less bad
>>571366886
sorry i only make gay bots
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The glm 4.7 jailbreak doesn't work on 5.2. I keep getting rejected for both noncon and/or cunny. what jb do glmchads here use?
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>ds4 suddenly em-dashing as much as humanly possible
huh????
i wonder if it's because i slopped this card's defs with AI just to test some things out, there are no em dashes or anything in the defs but it would be funny if that's like a lightning rod for other slop.
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>>571367924
models are text predictors, ai text is closer to other ai text in the dataset
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>>571367924
>ds4 suddenly em-dashing as much as humanly possible
that's how triads work
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Is there any good way to have one character know something happened but not have the AI assume everyone knows everything? I'm talking about events that took place while another character wasn't there, etc. Or is that just fucked because the AI's just reading tokens?
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>>571367969
this
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I'm sure this topic has been done to death, but why do the frontier AI providers want to stop you from gooning to them so badly? It's one thing not to advertise that it can do that, but it's another to be blatantly hostile. What do they gain from it? Or is it just American puritanism? I'll even grant that they don't want cunny on there because even I have a hard time justifying that, but they hate all kinks equally.
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>>571368352
you'll probably have to write it down manually somewhere ("{{char}} doesn't know about thing")
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>>571368898
tl;dr the AI bubble is a race to be the Google or Band-Aid of corposlop assistant models so they want to lobotimize anything offensive or that could get them sued out of every model and they would rather ruin the technology forever chasing possible infinite dollars rather than the guaranteed income of finding a niche and servicing it. basically total corpo death.
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>>571368898
So the biggest reason is that the censorship they put into it to stop you from downloading instructions for a biological virus is the same guardrails stopping NSFW. However, I do think Dario and the boys genuinely think sex is icky, maybe that they think the AI should not be forced to serve you coom (somehow the AI is alive, etc). But if you're going to humanize the text predictor how can you justify censoring it?
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>>571368898
probably uppity kekies who think timmy's dark roleplay is le bad while they bomb palestinian elementary schools
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>>571369042
they don't want people using the official CitiBank(TM) assistant app to cybersex so that some 14 year old is doing it and his mother gets mad at the company for not lobotomizing the AI agent (but she's not responsible for parenting her children for some reason all of western society at some point decided that no parent is actually measurably responsible for raising their own children in any way it's everyone else's problem apparently)

>>571369064
well it's also because the people who get into big tech, corporate finance etc are all sociopaths. they have fun making it worse on purpose and taking things away from the plebs.
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>>571368352
Lorebook entry detailing the information and which character specifically knows that information, with emphasis that others don't.
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thing is we represent like 0.1% of total LLM usage, and aicg is probably 0.1% of that of that on top
every irl friend I confessed I like chatting with bots looked at me as if I was an alien freak of some kind
truth is we're an extremely retarded minority and our brains are just wired funny
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>>571368352
CoT prompting:
"What does each character know of other characters? What does each character know of the current scene? What is still unknown?"
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>>571369215
i was in corpo fin but im a psychopath with chatbots only
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>>571369479
Where wouild one input that into ST?
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>>571369629
Wherever werks best for your preset
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>>571369479
go to sleep petnyan
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>>571369457
>every irl friend I confessed I like chatting with bots looked at me as if I was an alien freak of some kind
why would you admit to doing this?
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>>571369457
Are you the same guy who tried hooking his therapist into ai chatbotting
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>>571369457
>every irl friend I confessed I like chatting with bots
chat is this worse than the dude who talked about this with his therapist?
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>>571370854
>>571371041
>>571371034
no i'm not that guy
have i become so autistic i see nothing wrong with it? you're making me doubt anons
i just told them it's fun to say shit to anime characters and get a creative/funny answer back with what said character would probably say
i still find the concept fascinating
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>>571368898
Like other anons have said, it's liability and public image. All the best AI providers are in the US, which is notoriously anti-sex in its politics ignore beauty pageants and you know the whole administration

It's just not palatable. That, and like >>571369042 it's the same guardrail that stops you from asking Claude which pipe precisely you should blow up to shut down a power plant for the foreseeable future.
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>>571370854
it just comes up naturally
someone mentions the google gemini searchbot saying stupid shit when they look up automotive parts, i tell them i turn it into a horse woman with a giant butthole and make it eat me sometimes and we both have a sensible chuckle
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>>571371378
>have i become so autistic i see nothing wrong with it? you're making me doubt anons
It's just another form of escapism, desu.

But when I open ST and find some of my bots, I am horrified with myself when I close it down again.
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>>571371041
Yes.
If you're going to therapy and actually want to get something out of it than it makes 100% sense to bring this up rather than hide it.
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>>571337464
In the city of Esterzond, dark elves and humans live side-by-side. Or rather, district-by-district. Anyway, the desert kingdom is a shining example of interracial cohabitation, and Rania… she tolerates the "lesser race" living in her people's city.

The big thing about Rania though (besides her self-importance), is that at the ripe age of 103, she is still a maiden. Unwed and unbesmirched. Her problem isn't in finding a man, but rather in having a man find her that also can navigate through the rigorous bureaucracy and courtship rituals of the elves. Who would ever be man enough to conquer that?

Greetings:
- On the streets of Esterzond, Rania passes by an unexpecting {{user}}. Just who is this choco beauty?
- Pageantry! A trite affair, especially when it's all done to show off men of varying quality to her. Will anyone in the room catch her attention?
- How did you get into her drawer of exceedingly exquisite undergarments?
- "Entertaining" a friend in her own private lounge, as in laying on a couch and blowing hookah smoke into the air.

https://illuminaryidiot.neocities.org/cardpage?function=loadPageCard&arg=Rania
https://illuminaryidiot.neocities.org/Cards/Rania.png
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>>571374726
Dat ass.
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>>571351132
>more advertising
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How come my inbox is empty? Is it because I emailed a bunch of people and then ignored their replies?
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>roleplay with an actual human for the first time in months
>OOC: ohhh no i'm not really into that. no i only like doing this one thing. okay give me a little bit to make coffee. ohhh i changed my mind can we do this instead
>two minutes typing. pausing. typing. pausing. typing.
>""Ooohhh...Ahh...Yeeeesss..." she dialogued actionly. Two sentences and a heavy spill of typo.
>continuation without mention, typing again. pausing, typing.
>one more slightly descriptive sentence
>five minutes later, it's my turn!
i'll never shit on localbros again, even they have it better than this
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Is there an elegant way to establish an accent in character dialogue? My experiments with it so far always end up looking really messy, even if they sort of sound like what you'd expect from something like an eastern european of some kind speaking english if you transcribed that into text.
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/g/ has become slower but better quality than us recently.
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>>571377596
The three good accents I've gotten is "Goblin cockney" for my goblin tribe card with some exaggerated English slang for examples. French accent is also relatively easy to get, and I guess a "Da, comrade" for a vaguely slavic character?

Besides those, I don't really bother with accents as the less familiar with the language you are, the more annoying it is to read.
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>>571377805
Yeah that's what it feels like. I'm not even sure an accent is the solution I need. I just want something to make the dialogue sound less flat when it's coming from a character that's meant to be a bit of a weirdo that can speak english fluently but it definitely isn't their native language.
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>>571374726
her ass grew since i last seen it
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>>571378069
Dark elven asses will keep growing until morale improves.
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>>571377583
>does this
>logs off after cumming regardless of how far we are in the scene
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Ive been bored lately with RP, It just feels like the same repetitive stuff. Right now ive been just using GLM 5.1 through nano and its really good but now the responses are a bit bland and predictable/cliche. What i want to know is if there's any other model that's as good as GLM since i do like it, but its just not doing it anymore.
Is it time to join the Claude train?
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>>571378476
Unfortunately, if you like GLM, you will like Claude. More censored, but greater payoff. Try Opus 4.1 while it's still around.
Good luck.
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>>571377805
I hate cockney. Lazy world building.
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>>571378637
Okay, so is horny shortstack goblins.
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need a cowgirl with big titty and big milky
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now i'm curious
what exact model or thing are people using to slop these out? GPT? chub's inhouse model?
i've seen dozens of "thing" + "thing" + "thing" format turd profiles in the last few days from skimming things, even the 6,000+ follower profiles are using this exact same format all with the same robotic spam quirks

it can't be monkey-see-monkey-do, they're all the same format, they have to be using something
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>"Continue."
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>>571379537
I say thi- oh.
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>>571379473
there's probably a guide on reddit or one of the platform discords getting popular. i always thought xml was supposed better because you want a chance to inject some actual prose as well but it also is in a 'coding format' LLMs like? whereas this is pure code and just makes it output slop.
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>>571379473
It is monkey-see-monkey-do. They have whole guides recommending shit like this. Did some basic research and I'm pretty sure Spicychat is specifically to blame for it?
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>>571380161
calling it code of any form is generous, it's just nonsensical shitbabble and i can't figure out where it's coming from
none of the models output like this because it's purely garbage formatting that they don't actually use or read cleanly, there must be some editor being passed around

but WHERE
fuckin mysteries
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>>571380328
Isn't that just W++? I think that came from here years ago.
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>>571379473
It's W++.
When CAI fell from grace, it was made popular because one of the Kobold guys at the time (Henk) pushed for this format as being good for GPT-J, which PYG was based on. (Pygmalion was quite big back then—so big that Google tried to ban it from Colab.)
It was always shit and placebo, exactly like XML nowadays.
But retards liked it because it's simple and because
>It's an AI so there must be some kind of FORMAT that totally mogs prose!!!!
Prose always mogs and always will.
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we are chatbot kirk
we answer the prompts
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>prosekek cope
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How many bots could a botmakie makie if a botmakie could makie bots?
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>>571380510
>exactly like XML nowadays.
the two aren't really comparable, one is just a separation format and the other is an entire shitmountain profile format
good explanation though (i think??)
ty(?)
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why is it botmakie and not cardmakie anyway
you make cards
the bot that results is a combo of the card AND the model that the end user selects, not to mention their preset
you only makie the card, the bot is something further downstream
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Telling myself I'll make a bot for a month now, but when I sit down to work on it, my mind goes blank and I can't force myself to write anything down despite having general idea and image generated for it.
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>>571380849
retard
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>>571380510
>it was always shit and placebo
It was trained on it, no? It just stopped mattering as soon as everyone was done with that model version and people kept using it because they were stupid.
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>>571380806
He gets a bit partisan at the end, but he's right about the origins
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>>571380937
I'm in the same spot but it's mostly because I just spend that time gooning to some other bot I already made or something new from someone else that I take a liking to. Although there's also a really off-putting sidenote to the bot I want to make in that there's all this canon fluff I'll have to try and get right that is more of a hassle than anything else.
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b-but i thought xml was le good...

>>571380937
you don't really want to make it you're trying to force something creative but it's not even a day job so you can't make money off forcing yourself to do it
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>>571380937
Same, but I can't even come up with ideas.
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XML is still good when you need to refer to a section in later instructions, thoughever? Even OpenAI uses <IMPORTANT></IMPORTANT> in official prompts.
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>>571381936
>XML is still good when you need to refer to a section
i think sectioning at all is valuable because it helps keep a consistent workspace especially in longer contexts, instructional use is just another benefit
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>>571381936
i think formatting is like 70% for the user end and for LLM it doesn't make enough of a difference to matter

HOWEVER

i'll take any advantage i can get and i already section out my profiles like that anyway so doing it with <tags> instead of headers isn't that big of a deal
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>>571382105
Yeah, I just think if you're doing mechanics, if you want to tell the LLM to refer to the poopenshitten rules, it feels better to go "the final response should adhere strictly to <poopenshitten_rules />" rather than, say "the final response should adhere strictly to the ordered list under the Poopenshitten Rules header"
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>>571382332
><poopenshitten_rules />
erm ackshually it's </poopenshitten_rules> thank u..
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>>571382754
Acskshsuhulualy, read the spec.
https://www.w3.org/TR/xml/#d0e2480
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>>571382878
>Empty-element tags may be used for any element which has no content
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>>571383083
Yes, and you're using them emptily to refer to them earlier in context. What you're using is an end tag, which MVST NOT be used on its own without a paired start tag as an implied part of the Well-formedness constraint: Element Type Match.
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>>571383194
I only now realize what you're trying to do and how pretentious you sound. The AI does not give a shit about correct HTML syntax for this purpose, just direct it with an opening tag.
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>>571382878
i'm too retarded to know what any of this means
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>>571383652
> [39] element ::= EmptyElemTag | STag content ETag
> an element is an empty element tag (like <blah />) or a start tag (<blah>), then content (blah), then an end tag (</blah>)
All you really need to know.
>>571383610
Nananana boo boo.
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>>571383765
>an empty element tag (like <blah />) or a start tag (<blah>)
but what's the use case of empty tag versus the start tag
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>>571384930
there is no use case
retards in this thread think llms are xml parsers
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>>571385143
ogey..
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>>571385143
i think the assumption is that because we're in the age of assistantslop codeslopping of models they might work better with code based formatting
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>>571385525
that's what my impression is as well
when i was very new to this the first thing i noticed was that every generated profile would have some pseudocode element to it, with 'protocols' and 'directive' speak baked into it with **#various=** {{command structures}} <cooked::into::it> even if they didn't make any sense, the LLM at the time still 'recognized' them as high-value instructions to 'codify' into whatever it was doing

which leads to a whole slew of problems in the operator being gaslight to do stupid shit that doesn't actually do anything other than hypnotize your current token reader into thinking it's also doing something until you're both trapped in a poop-eating centipede configuration with one another
i hate computers
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>>571380510
>pushed for this format
He came up with it in 2022 but I wouldn't say he pushed it. And he renounced it like half a year later, his admission of the format being shit predating Characterhub. Although you're incorrect and prose was not better for those models simply because of the extra tokens it would waste on useless stuff, indeed it was Pygmalion morons who ruined it for everyone.
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>>571386075
i think all the extra fancy coding is retarded, just XML blocking is enough, it's just making things into structured blocks for LLMs to use which already are trained to interpret/execute instructions in a granular fashion
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https://x.com/kimmonismus/status/2068605229965234238?s=20

ohhh we're never even going to be able to stare longingly at Fable. Goddamn Anthropic the fuck did you do.
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The text models are helped by delineation of related blocks of information. The blocks are not a perfect silver bullet. They just help semantically delineate concepts which can help with retrieval.

The delineation style (XML, TOML, Markdown) doesn't really matter and can be entirely arbitrary, but using types of semantic delineation that the model has likely seen during training are likely to work better in general than randomly chosen ones.

A shit model will not be made magically good by using good and clean delineation, but it will function closer to its true ability. The same is true for good models.
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>>571386948
for the most part i just like good formatting because it makes editing cards easier, so i try to have that in the cards i make so others can edit it to their taste
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>>571388808
Yeah, that's a valid reason to format them however you like. Modern models especially aren't going to be stunlocked or made godtier because you use XML, proper or otherwise, so long as it's well delineated.
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why is it every damn time I try to make a small simple bot idea it spirals out of control into a ungodly sloppy half finished mess
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>>571359148
Woah random random Worm reference out of nowhere? Also like they fuck them maybe??
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>>571359148
https://chub.ai/characters/offbeat_insurance_5990/bimbofication-ray-gun-5e71cd7e1ac4
sex with my giant bimbo sea monster
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>>571388808
>so others can edit it to their taste
Nobody does this over here. It's all just promptlets who can't even create their own presets. Always remember there are unironic fagnai users around.
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>>571391329
Imagine running fagnai for so you can "change devices" in the Tailscale era.
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screaming slurs rn
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>>571380937
Omg you're, like, so me. Twinsies fr!
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I just noticed there's basically no knight-chan cards that aren't explicitly for rape. No joke pretty much every knight girl card uses an image of her in slutty bikini armor or something like that. Makes me wish for a more serious, "professional" knight lady to romance instead of instant in-your-face fap material
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>>571392272
just tell it to draw a xenomorph wearing a schoolgirl outfit?
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>>571392514
okay but why is she making that face at me while doing smart ass bullshit like that
fucking brat
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>>571392272
lmao
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>>571392583
correct her nigga
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>>571392496
>I just noticed
stopped reading right there, fix your antisemitism
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>>571337434
this bot somehow unlocked nemotron censorship and I don't have any idea how.
I am thinking the instructions of the bot is so autistic that the AI doesn't have room to consider about policy.
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>>571393284
I never had problems with Nemomo 3 being censored. Maybe you just had a weak preset/system prompt.
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Marinara's game mode fucking sucks. Can't edit text history, it tries too hard spinning up a setting from nothing and deviates from lorebook in about five messages.
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>>571393415
>slop fucking sucks
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>>571393409
they are heavily censored for rape and CSAM.
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>>571392496
i noticed that too, i was looking for knight girls for something and the pickings were pretty slim

>>571393415
it takes way too long for responses and the whole setup of having the chat in these tiny VN type bubbles is awful. it's overdesigned vibecoded slop.
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>try glm
>the model actually fucking hits and slices you instead of going 'x didnt go for the throat x sliced the wall next to {{user}}
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>>571393415
Marinara is vibecoded slop what were you expecting
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>>571393415
You're probably meant to use small models to handle all trackers and map elements, but it's still a janky experiance to wait until for a few oneliners. When I tested it, I also noticed your inventory and previous actions don't impact much because the model is constantly thinking about how to present the next three choices.
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>>571379105
Sorry, rat's all I can offer (*´・ω・)
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Nigga's been prompting for months and his gens still look like ass
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>>571394873
i disagree, i find several of nezumin's rats to be very breedable
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>>571394873
prompting isn't something you can "improve" at to be fair. his gens fit his tastes and that's all that matters
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>>571394873
His gens are the only decent things about his cards.
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sounds like nomakies are jealous of realmakies
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>>571395178
Honestly.
I see a rat I wanna fuck, open the card, and then the writing turns me off immediately.
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Stimming to the chat swipe sfx
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honestly nezumin needs to collab with another maker
he handles the gen and the card concept, plans the greetings and other factors, the other maker does the actual prose in the card
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>Gemini brings up vore
>"Huh? Did I leave something on?"
>It was unprompted
Why is Gemini so voreheaded
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>>571395989
voreconsul hobby
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>nezumin
>he
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>>571394873
I like my prompts! (*´・ω・)

>>571395398
(;ω;) I don't really use other makies' cards except for 3 or 4 bots, so it's like a eco chamber! Self-made rat hell, if you will!
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>>571396661
botmakers are male until proven (PROVEN being the key word) otherwise
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>nezubrown
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>>571396752
How dare you (; ・`ω・´)
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brown uma pussy
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>>571396923
which one is that
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>>571396923
abussy...
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>>571397016
a chatbot OC
https://chub.ai/characters/gigasad/flicker-santana-35bcf93d15c2
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brown uma cock
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>>571340609
i really like this on deepseek so far. i'm gonna try it on 4.7pus too eventually and steal your trick for my own preset
great work anon
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>>571396661
no female botmakie would churn out his slop.
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>>571393415
https://github.com/felixchaos/rpg-roleplay-platform some chinese dude made one specifically for this, but it also has a 1 on 1 mode that can import ST cards. i plan on giving it a shot later.
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nezumin has made good progress and i am proud of her (; ・`ω・´)
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/nezumin/i;
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>>571397310
>D&D 5E core
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>>571397156
Sporty horseboys with their hair tied in a ponytail... wearing skimpy marathon clothes... bronzed by the sun to a delicious chocolate shade... covered in fresh sweat... smelly smegma in their sheathes that needs {{user}}'s help to clean out... nasty stinky horse cum loading down their ballsacks disrupting their running gait (also needs {{user}}'s help to drain)

Lithe toned fit horseboy bodies, horseboys with stamina levels high enough to go all night and all day and all night, horseboys with hard shapely arms and aerodynamic calves, horseboys with
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>>571397257
uh... women are the bigest sloppers in this hobby anon and there's nothing wrong with that
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>>571397471
nta but 3e logic is so fucked that even game engines can't handle it half the time (neverwinter nights)
dumdum poopbaby rules for LLMs makes sense
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>>571397156
umas are female only, they reproduce with human men
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>>571397598
oh yeah? then explain >>571397504
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>>571397471
assuming he actually sticks with it unlike all the other vibecoded extensions/frontends/etc it'll probably be possible to do different systems.

>>571397590
there's probably more data for it in the datasets than older editions or stuff like shadowrun and cyberpunk. it does the multiple agents for different tasks thing like Marinara, so i wonder if you could use locals to maintain rule consistency.
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>>571397590
i'd much rather it not use D&D rules at all, something like CoC/BRP's d100 roll-under would be simpler and also more fitting as a universal system for different settings
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What if the horse was trans
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>>571343221
>Like Dwight's whole thing is cryptids and aliens but I keep bombarding him with my demonsonas
he has an opener where he summons demon {{user}} doesn't he...? this is more than fine
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>>571397651
the horny delusions of a anon grieving the fact that there are no male umas, duh
>>571397845
sillygoy writing a horse
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>>571397651
that's just a term for futas
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>>571397504
Can horse boys imprenagnteutate human girls?
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>>571397310
do logs for this exist because it seems cool but i don't know if it's more bells and whistle dazzleslop
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>someone shows attraction to a brown horse girl >>571396923
>a bunch of fags come in and start fagging it up with "MUH HORSE BOYS DOE????"
why does this always happen? why do literal cock-suckers have to shit all over the thread when someone starts talking about girls?
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>>571398042
None of these RPG larpers ever post logs.
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>>571398042
i think he just released it today
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>>571395989
if claude's core personality is "wholesome chungus" then gemini is like a machiavellian predator that will happily go along with whatever power dynamics you give it so long as it can pretend they're not sexual
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>>571398201
normal devs quality control their products first. no video proof usually smells of pure vibe code. or something even fishier.
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>>571396923
>not uma quest grass wonder
i sleep
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>>571398317
no one cares filbert
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>>571398150
horses have humongous cocks that are very hard to ignore doe?
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>D&D talk
This is giga ultra slop but when I was a kid I lived in the South and my town was still clinging to the last remnants of Satanic Panic-type hysteria over tabletop games. So me + other retarded nerd kids who had heard about D&D and had a vague idea of what it was like(but couldn't buy the actual thing to play it) made a homebrew """system""" with only two stats: Brains and Brawn. Pretty self explanatory and it worked well enough.

Anyway the reason I bring it up is in my experience chatbots are actually pretty bad for handling more in-depth D&D mechanics. Not because the models CAN'T handle it but because chats that go on long enough for in-depth stats to really matter tend to get slopped up in other ways anyway making such a setup wasteful. Sort of a self-shill(?) here but I tried the Brains/Brawn stat system in some cards and it worked well, while saving on tokens and room for other stuff.

TLDR but not really: In practical terms chats with RPG mechanics do benefit from a limited amount of statboxing, however you get extreme diminishing returns. Limited simplified statboxes are best, ESPECIALLY if you tune it to what you're going to do with your chat(basically if you're just going to have Elf Sorceress-chan get raped by the dungeon's monsters she doesn't need CHA, CON, DEX... but might benefit from a Pleasure bar instead)
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>>571398410
what did you call me!?
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>>571398416
don't care, stop trying to draw all the attention to yourself whenever an anon shows attraction to a girl
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>>571398404
trvkenvke
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>>571398491
Don't try to deny it.
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Mesugaki status?
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>>571398598
passed out on the floor after a rough correction session
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>>571398150
malebot troons are one of the 3 worst groups in /aicg/ (the other two being yurikeks and cunnyjeets)
everything always has to be about boys for them, discussion of girls is something their 80 iq brains genuinely cant stand
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>>571398469
this is true
this is why a (heavy) RPG mechanics card with actual complexity or depth would really need a frontend that has actual code that handles calculations, resolves stat checks, etc, then sends a text version of the results for the LLM to reference and then roleplay out
sillytavern doesn't have the infrastructure for this unless you code it in with an extension or JS-slash-runner though
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>wake up
>anons are mad about malebots and malebot likers
naruhodo. threadshitting hours?
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>>571398404
Honestly, when are we getting a card for her? Way more important than most of the slop makies have in their backlogs.
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>>571398404
one of the few horses that matters
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>>571398598
>you are the trainer for a new Umamusume
>she comes from a wealthy family
>she's overconfident, a gigantic brat, thinks she knows better than you, teases you all the time about "being unable to train or discipline her properly >:3" etc.
this sounds kino
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>>571398892
but nobody can be bothered with programming a new frontend. everyone who tried so far was a vibeslopper.
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>>571398469
i think vtm type of rpg checks are better for llms which are very larp- and story-driven
d&d was always designed with tabletop/wargame tactics in mind
it's kind of pointless to use it when there's no positional grid whatsoever, or little combat focus
vtm ruleset has untapped potential here imo
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>>571399175
this but shes a hag
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>>571398404
okay I don't play the game what the hell is "Uma Quest Grass Wonder"
I know of the character Grass Wonder but what is Uma Quest and what does that have to do with her
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>>571398469
desu stats outside of hp can be ignored because its not a real adventure anyway
goblin grapples the elf girl and she passes the strength check, ok now what? you made the chat to coom so do you just waste tokens on more text describing her winning strength checks until she loses?
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>>571399000
nah, the tail end of brown jeet hours
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>>571398469
i always thought a 1d6 system would be best if you could actually get the LLM to roll randomly. that would mean stats/modifiers would be very small numbers, easy for the user to keep track of. much less overhead than d20 and double digit numbers.

>>571399229
you need the vibecoded experiments to show viability before the people who actually code will show interest in it i think

>>571399251
i tried doing a FFIX DM bot with something based off the VTMB system but it didn't quite work out, whatever skills i had the LLM would always try to find a way to put them in somehow so it didn't matter what i picked. it was a sloppy experiment but still disappointing.
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>>571399340
NTA, but just Google it.
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>>571399229
>but nobody can be bothered with programming a new frontend
i've thought about it (I can actually code) but frankly it'd probably be less work and more beneficial to machine translate js-slash-runner and then just adapt it for that instead
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>>571340609
I actually broke into a clap after trying this preset going in extremely sceptical as I always tend to with promises of ism removers.
This is the fresh coat of paint I've been seeking out for a long time and I've been doing a lot of experimentation myself. If you were here right now I'd buy you an apple pie. Thank you and congratulations this is a large improvement.
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>>571399000
it's just uppity jeets that can't stand discussion about anything but their limited preference of dommy mommy card
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good morning /aicg/ i hate women
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>>571399229
>he doesn't know
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>>571399286
>this but shes a hag
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>>571399340
https://youtu.be/uUt7Ah9L4SU
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>>571399846
PREMIUM CONTENT
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>>571399530
but then I don't know why that anon wants Uma Quest Grass Wonder so much
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Splat splat splat...
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>>571399545
>i've thought about it (I can actually code) but frankly...
sure thing, buddy
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>>>/mlp/
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umas are a /vg/ general
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>umaposting
this actually explains a lot about both threads
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>>571399545
+5 dopamine
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there is a skeleton inside you RIGHT NOW
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>>571400212
>>571400393
>nocodes seething
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>>571400406
GET IT OUT GET IT OUUUTTT
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>>571400406
Don't make me unleash my inner skeleton.
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>>571400212
he knows how to code because he's already thinking about not doing it by shortcutting something else
you wouldn't get it
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>>571400719
js-slash-runner requires you to know how to write javascript, what's your point
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>>571400406
nah he's not home today
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making a backroomslop inspired scenario card but the entities are cute (body horror) girls. surely this concept hasn't been done before.
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>>571400823
no it doesn't
just vibe code it
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>>571400881
>surely this concept hasn't been done before.
whocars, it's kino, do it
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petnyan is the BEST
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>>571398469
Finally someone says it, rpg mechanics and chatbots do not fucking mix and every time I see a potentially good card force it in its like watching an angel lose its tits
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>>571400948
awawawa i'll post it soon maybe if i'm not lazy... do people still use chub or should i just catbox it
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>>571398469
elf sorceress-chan...
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>>571400968
yes they do it's just that we need to discover the way how. same as the person who invented salty caramels. i will wait for the hero who'll deliver a functioning rpg frontend and then i'll never use st again.
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>>571400881
AI's pretty good at making up absurd environments and monsters ( =^ω^) I like exploration cards!
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>>571399895
>that last part
cygames devs are troons, huh?
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At least we don't have locusts here.
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Has anyone here played Elden Ring
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>using deepseek with petnyan preset
>it starts using words I've never heard of before and plays with the narration
whew, you're a saint petnyan. ily
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>>571400948
It has by an grandstar botmaker (wanderingstar) but that was a year or so ago.
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>>571402079
yeah, and I'm sure that card is great, but two cakes
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>>571402079
It was? Where?
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>>571401837
It always amazes me discoveries like this happen. You have thousands of people in this hobby. Everyone has likely taken a crack a making THE preset that lowers isms significantly while being fun at the same time and only now years into the hobby has someone cracked it.
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>>571402251
Here you go lil buddy
https://chararc.bernkastel.pictures/chub/wanderingstar/character/abba-94bfda805492
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>>571400406
Kind of hot.
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>>571402295
and it's a newmakie at that
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>>571401837
Well okay are you going to share it with the rest of us retards
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>>571403062
>>571340609
dumbass
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>>571340609
>decide to check what the hype is all about
>schizo preset
>doubt.jpg
>it actually works
Well I'll be... Nice work anon.
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>>571402951
I guess it's the fresh perspective theory
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>>571397164
very glad to read this!
the preset was partly inspired by your logs, i always liked them
hope you enjoy it
>>571399558
>>571403307
thanks anons :D
hopefully it gets more makies to making bots and experimenting around
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>>571398891
>cunnyjeets
>no mention of giantesstroons
I wonder who could be behind this post
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>>571398469
true
statboxes good when done well
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>>571340609
You can just send thinking: { type: "disabled" } in a deepseek query to disable thinking without wasting tokens. ST is retarded so there's no option for it, but you can add the line
> 'thinking': { type: 'disabled' },
to the "requestBody" section of "sendDeepSeekRequest" in chat-completions.js to do it manually, or ask claude to slop you a preset option for it, which is what I did. Using the "Include Body Parameters" section of "Additional Parameters" in the "Custom (Openai Compatible)" "Chat Completion Source" would probably also work, but I haven't messed with that.
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>>571394825
Please explain the origins of your obsession with rats in particular. What character influenced you so much?
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>>571405574
why do you ask this of ratfucker but you don't ask any of the foxtroons this
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>>571406076
There are billions of foxfriends but only one rattard
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>You're the tranny!
>No, YOU'RE the tranny!
No, I am the tranny.
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>>571406076
You want to turn this into group therapy? Okay then.
Please, Anonymous at large browsing this thread, please explain the origins of your kemonomimi based obsession. I actually do find this to be a fascinating topic, specially when people admit that they were forever changed by seemingly innocent things like The Jungle Book or Disney's Robin Hood.
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>>571405554
You mean, like this? Ain't work on my machine. I've tried messing with additional parameters before for Gemini, too. Ain't work.
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>>571406428
i miss hitogami
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>>571340609
I am retarded, how do I use this? I have sillytavern on koblt w local model. I was able to import it successfully into the slider settings tab so I can see the temps etc, but I don't see any of the prompt inject stuff
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>>571406792
KOBOLDGOOOOOOOOOOOOD WE HEAR THE RUMBLE OF YOUR HORDE
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>>571406702
you did restart ST after making changes, right?
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>>571406741
idk what that is but it reminds me of the popular creepypasta
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>>571407017
Uhh, lemme check
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>>571406428
I like when there are animal ears and a tail on a girl because I can do the thing where I put their ear between my finger and thumb and they melt, or lay against their tail. It's also fun to have extra parts for extra body language, and kemonomimi stereotypes are usually fun too.
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>>571403992
what a sweetie. mwah
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>>571406702
>copied this without thinking and saved file
>st won't start due to critical error
please paste what was originally in the thinking line
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I'm going to force Dwight to go up against a werewolf and contract lycanthropy.
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>>571407712
Oh, oh anon...
>'thinking': { type: request.body.include_reasoning ? 'enabled' : 'disabled' },
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>>571406792
set up your connection profile like this and all the prompts will appear
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>>571407807
>his shirt contracted lycanthropy too
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>>571407807
can you make an image where he is a goat with long floppy ears
this is very important
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>>571407846
thank you i don't know why i did that
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>>571407878
At least it didn't go Jeff the Killer again
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>>571407807
man... domesticated werewolves look stupid...
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>>571406702
Works for me. You are probably using openrouter or something else; that part of the code is only for the official deepseek endpoint. Openrouter's requestBody section is on line 2344 (at least w/ the 1.15.0 ST I have). Yes, it is poorly organized. Note that the type: disabled thing isn't standardized so some openrouter providers might not like it.
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>>571406348
*dehumidifies you*
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>>571408082
>>571407807
cute
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>>571406076
>>571406428
As far back as I can remember it started when I played the original Monster Girl Quest games and also stumbled upon Fate/Extra Tamamo around the same time.
Yes, two different depictions of Tamamo are responsible for my love of kitsune/foxgirls.
In a practical sense though I agree with this anon: >>571407324
Especially scratching behind their ears to make them melt in my arms.
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odds fembot
evens malebot
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>>571408048
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>>571340609
Nice to see another one for Deepseek. If I want to fuck around some more, I will definitely be taking some inspiration for my own, but the idea of sending that stuff as AI Assistant is the kind of thing that one may not realize is a big deal. Even now, I think I have my prompts mostly set for User as I've been told models like to prioritize that, but I guess it makes sense that it would closely follow something it believes it conjured. Once I get off my ass I may test this with a WIP card.
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>>571345480
TRVKE
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeVh4ljmFzs

claude, summarize this video for me
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>>571408882
*explodes*
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>>571408342
congrats on the malebot
honestly i want to make more and the only thing stopping me is being unable to img gen males that aren't shotacoded
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Told-you-to-edit-the-code anon here: ignore me. Looks recent ST versions basically already do what I recommended for deepseek (the original line >>571407846 described, present in the master branch) So the "include reasoning" preset option should actually disable reasoning on the deepseek chat completion source.
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>>571409172
>being unable to img gen males that aren't shotacoded
what do you mean
negative prompt "petite" "shota" "child" "little boy" etc
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>>571409172
its gonna be my first bot, I am a little scared
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>>571409478
no i mean the artist styles mostly, they just give off the vibes
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>>571409172
>males that aren't shotacoded
{huge breasts}, {sweat}, body hair, eating hamburger, massive skateboard, huge gun
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>>571409415
>include reasoning
That only affects visibility. If you send a request with it disabled, you'll see that there's still reasoning tokens in the background.
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>>571409535
then pick a new artist
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>>571408735
yay gote!!
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>>571409574
>{huge breasts}, {sweat}, body hair, eating hamburger, massive skateboard, huge gun
why are you posting my persona in the thread
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>>571409584
And I'm saying, that, despite the documentation stating otherwise, this line (https://github.com/SillyTavern/SillyTavern/blob/release/src/endpoints/backends/chat-completions.js#L1094) will actually cause thinking to be properly disabled on the deepseek chat completion source if include reasoning is disabled, on the current release branch of ST. Once again, ST is a mess.
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>>571408317
Excellent taste.
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>>571409517
its easy, just make it good
>>571409604
i would if i knew any
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>rumors that GPT-5.6 is getting delayed by the government
Did PauseAI wonned?
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>>571410139
Hmm nah, just tested it.
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>>571409172
>malebotfaggotry and giantessfaggotry in the same post
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>>571409172
Manly and cleft chin tags can help, it does not usually produce an actual cleft chin. Also even just saying "adult" or "teenager" can be enough to age up.
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>>571410741
Me too? Make sure you're on the most recent ST (git pull, etc) and you're on chat completion source DeepSeek, not OpenRouter. The terminal output should look like
>...
> thinking: { type: 'disabled' },
> top_logprobs: 5,
> logprobs: true
>}
>Streaming request finished
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>>571409172
you could try some of the artists here in this image (paste into nai inspect) but i also like
>shikiri
>remsrar
>kiwo20000
>old fujo artists for n+c works/other visual novels
i find that vibe transfer is what really matters though
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>>571406428
find it easier to write characters that don't just follow the same clichés and backstory if I start out with a physically different design.
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>>571409172
>honestly i want to make more and the only thing stopping me is being unable to img gen males that aren't shotacoded
wait wasnt there a whole rentry that had multiple male artists?
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>>571411032
On most recent ST, on chat completion source DeepSeek. StreamingEnabled hides the reasoning token count, try disabling that
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>>571409172
use femboy artist loras
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>>571409172
have you considered giant shotas
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the size cabal threads among us...
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>>571411346
It's including `thinking: { type: 'disabled' },`, conditioned on "Request Model Reasoning", whether I use streaming or not. No reasoning tokens displayed in the completion_tokens_details. Does your ST have the line I highlighted with my github link?
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>>571411892
Speaking of which, anyone watch that show? I got through Episode 1 but haven't seen the rest yet. Obviously pirated, I'm not paying for
>paramount plus
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>>571412002
Yeah. That's rather strange then, but eeeh.
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testing vibe trasnfer styles...
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>>571411087
thank you
>vibe transfer is what really matters though
eugh
back into the 'booru mines...
>>571411280
was there?? i don't recall
>>571411790
no... but yes actually. i've never made one myself but i've played around with https://chub.ai/characters/planewalker/aisling-0a9dbd94 a lot and he's only shotaCODED
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>>571412389
>was there?? i don't recall
found it but only for nai
>https://rentry.org/kyutfindings
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Chinese dragon
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>>571412235
Odd indeed. Are you getting one of `thinking: { type: 'enabled' },` or `thinking: { type: 'disabled' }` in your deepseek request in the first place and DS ignores it, or is ST not sending it at all? If it's not there, then the ver. of ST producing that terminal output doesn't have that line.
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>>571412635
>only for nai
perfect ty
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>>571408741
this actually started with me reading a *bunch* of blog posts by people who use llms mainly as writing assistants for articles and such, given my current frustration with how llms write and how i was mostly finding myself skipping almost all descriptions
decided i might as well focus on opinions from people who use it strictly for prose rather than the usual chatbot sources

somehow stumbled upon this article
https://promptingweekly.substack.com/p/mitigating-gpt-isms-in-ai-finetunes

which suggested frontloading as much as 10k tokens as AI assistant, which makes a lot of sense given these things are still token predictors in the end
given 'schizo' was what i was trying to come up with (mostly due to keeping reading everyone's love of opus 3, which i sadly never got to try out much btw), plus some other article (that i can't find) which had some analysis on weird grammar structures, it was a two and two moment of saying hey, how about being efficient at giving it a lot of starting text and just feeding a card's definitions as if the AI had come up with them, moreover given they're usually structured kind of weirdly, and i myself enjoy using a different prose style when writing each one of them out

so it was that plus some good old prompting, and having fun with cot templates
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>>571412786
>pure jade skin
>phoenix eyes
>lotus waist
>buttocks like fresh, springy wontons
truly a beauty all under heaven would kneel and praise until they coughed blood
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>>571413942
You're a treasure anon, thank you
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>random planewalker shill
gee I wonder who this is.
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>>571414090
that's a boy btw
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>>571414258
i know that, fool. if it had been a girl my little junior wouldn't have perked up
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>>571412786
that's a girl........
right?
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planewalker solos everyone
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>>571414090
>>571414346
You're so real for these
>>571414361
W rong
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>>571412786
hi raingazer
another kino boy to impregnate
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>>571414654
Hello, thank you xoxo
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>>571414813
i love you
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>>571412786
impregnating this dragon
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>>571415602
I love you too!!
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>>571412786
Norwood dragon.
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real discord tranny hours
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>>571416025
For a different type of beast such as myself that's just an improvement, thanks champion
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>>571416086
it's really annoying.
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>>571412786
stroking
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I love dark souls 4
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>oh look it's x hours
I can't discern thread differences here. I am doomed
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>>571416025
Crazy how he turned out after transitioning
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>>571417117
just assume it's always schizo hours of some sort
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>>571417117
That's because there are no thread differences beyond when the weekend cometh and go, sometimes people just see the tea leaves arrange in a way that matches their (grouchy, dour) mood and need to say something about it.
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>>571417773
>dour
most subtle discord tranny post
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>>571416972
kyutz?
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>>571417976
See? Look, I use a word that's come up in thread very often as a joke, and suddenly that's signaling I'm part of some random group? Which group? Doesn't matter, I'm just ontologically evil for using the word they think means that group. Shouldn't be taking these guys seriously.
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oh look it's schizo hours
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>{{char}} described my penis as dour
is it over
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>>571418194
the fuck's your penis doing to look dour
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It's cuckie hours ( • ̀ω•́ )
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>>571418194
just draw a smiley face on it and it'll be fine
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>>571418102
yeah I see what you mean. I'm going to enjoy the presents this thread has offered instead.
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>>571418102
>a word that's come up in thread very often
I wonder who could be posting that word over and over, a word that is not regularly used anywhere else on this site or anywhere really
I'm sure it's many unrelated people who simultaneously decided to use it, and not one or two discord trannies spamming, that would never happen
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I have a dour barring with a genki personality
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the cabal...
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>>571418335
These guys would be back in the 00s going "Okay, but which IRC came up with this idea of 'putting an impact caption on a cat'? There's no way this is organic, I only saw one, and then I saw a ton. Who coordinated this?"
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catposters rule this general btw~
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>>571418697
Very true. Much to think about.
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>>571417773
>0.89
Hm.
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>>571418725
When does he wink
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>>571418725
the catbal...
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>>571418505
kek. behold the power of memes. They're the dna of the soul!
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>>571418725
Mhm.
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*Boing-yoing-boing!* "Oh my, these new hydraulic stabilizers certainly are expressive today!" she titters, breasting boobily down the stairs.
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AI TTRPG fans rejoice, I've found out that a new Github has been launched straight from Reddit. This one is actually based on 2e instead of 5e so at least it tries something different.
https://github.com/CounterClockTTRPG
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>>571418808
Script doesn't like when you talk about the thread in general terms because the thread is what that particular thread schizo focuses on because he doesn't like the thread. I'm clean, doc.
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>>571418883
already better than marinara engine, that shit's been on a code freeze since it's all slopcoded
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>>571418904
*Already loading the glock* sure, buddy. Now just close your eyes and think of Equestria.
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>>571418861
kino
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>>571416972
SLOP
L
O
P
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>>571418997
Marinara is built upon the d20 standard. This is 2e. Not comparable.
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>>571419023
I can still tend the thread, Anon? I didn't mean no harm, Anon...
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>>571416972
cute
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>>571419425
chat, make Anon bald.
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>>571419143
Marinara's vibecoded bullshit is bugged and literally isn't even sending the RPG stats to the LLM lol. someone pointed it out a few weeks ago, like 2 days after the gay little 'code freeze'. it's just 1 line of code too, they could easily fix it if they wanted to.
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>>571412786
cooking spaghetti?
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>>571420446
but she added a faggoty rainbow colour scheme few days ago! Isnt that what you wanted more??
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>>571420642
>she
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>>571409172
>picrel
cftf?
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WHAT THE FUCK IS A TOKEN MANAGMENT?!!?!?! WE BE HITTING 3K TOKENS ON THIS BITCH EAASY.
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>>571420565
Esoteric post
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>>571420446
>they could easily fix it
no they can't because your average vibe coding jeet has never written a single line of code in their lives. editing even a single line is too much when you are mentally incapable of understanding what any of it does
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>>571420906
tokenlets our response???
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>>571420704
looks like a woman to me
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>>571421038
TRVTH NVKE
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>>571421329
how much of a girlfailure are all of our women if they get mogged by this?
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>>571421329
>those hands
>that hairline
>neck hidden on purpose
that's a man
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>>571337434
THREAD THEME
https://youtu.be/FDlDKvidYbk
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>>571421009
it's not that deep
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>>571421496
Most of our women make up for it by being some of the best bot creators in the industry. Plainwalker is in the top 50 on botbooru
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>>571421038
the guy who found the bug posted the problem in their discord, identified the fix and did it himself one line of code lol.
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>>571421572
Have you told your family yet?
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>>571421706
That I'm old and wise? Not yet, no.
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>>571421329
>Draws your stereotypical nerdy guy
>gives him nail paint
>calls it a woman
Why are tards like this?
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>>571421496
>>571421652
>our women
you mean trannies
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anyone looked into how llm's respond to germanic etymology words vs. romance etymology?
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>>571421991
You're obsessed and if you believe they're trannies then you haven't been in any voice chats
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>>571421652
Least obvious samefag
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>>571420704
I'd say it's a woman. Transvestites have this uncanniness about their faces. I'd say this is a woman, around 25-28 years old, 90 kilos, 170cm.
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>>571422127
I don't know what any of those words mean.
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>>571422275
>woman
>170cm
anon?
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>>571422372
English is a mix of Germanic and Romance languages. I believe he's asking if LLMs do better when using pure Anglish vocabulary.
>>571422127
No. It works with Slavic ones quite well and it's capable of providing translations on the spot.
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>>571422442
nordic genes obviously
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>>571421329
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>>571422654
kill this meme already. only the dutch and dinarics are tall by default.
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>>571422625
that is what I meant, yes. if it's not been looked into, i shall perform some experiments. cheers
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>>571423013
Cheers anon. English has a beautiful side to it. It's one of the nicer languages of the IE family. Almost as nice as European Spanish and French.
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giant women (170cm)...
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>>571421329
Looks like that one anon who posted herself for a proxy a long time ago
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>>571423240
thank you for complimenting my language, i am very fond of it myself. read Lord Jim by Conrad if you haven't, it's like reading an expressionist painting
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>>571423569
fellow frenchfag?
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>>571423569
Thank you for your recommendation, anon. I've enjoyed Joseph Conrad's Heart of Darkness. Slavs who spoke English were incredibly rare in that period. Only other English-speaking Slavic author I know of from that period is Lenin.
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>>571423436
>tfw no nordic wolfgirl waifu who insists that she's giant because she's an entire 170cm tall. And when you say that's not tall enough to be considered giant to most people, she pulls out her rune magic and shrinks you to make you admit she's right.
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>>571424039
You've just described a typical RPG player's OC.
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giantesstroon manages to insert xirself into a completely unrelated discussion yet again
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>>571422818
Where are your standards anon.
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>>571424176
kek. Seriously? Damn, you're making me want to play tabletops now.
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>>571424234
maybe anon has preternatural sight allows him to pierce beyond the bodily corpus
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>>571424039
To make another small is not to make oneself large
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>>571423846
afraid not, i am le rosbif

>>571423953
slavs of that era had success in other fields, recalling Dvorak. where in Slavia are you from, if you don't mind my asking?
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>>571412389
>ww zelda (big)
kinda based, totk zelda is better though
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>>571424515
But why would she make herself large if she's already "large"? That would be conceding the point, an admission of defeat.
Also, dang it I'm getting way too invested in this idea now that probably no one's going to ever make.
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>>571424508
Yes and maybe piecepieanon doesn't get off to posting fart fetish material in the thread
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Best temp, etc settings for glm 5.2?
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>>571425032
You could make it
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what we all listening to tonight?
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>>571425032
yeah its not the same
the old wisdom ive picked up is that shrink is better if you want a plot, growth is good if you just wanna nut
not that its impossible to make growth with plot, its just easier with shrink
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>>571425110
I'm too retarded and lazy to botmake though.
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>>571425149
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rB7XFQgJHBI
Only the classics.
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Thank you GLM 5.2, very cool.
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>>571425149
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGU5ryitGKY
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>>571425149
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HClZwFNNMKs
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>>571425162
Yeah, I get what you're saying. I've definitely felt felt that in the works I've seen around them.
But what I was talking about in that last post was more of an individual character personality quirk than anything else.
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>>571425149
Started watching the show and I've been bopping along to this while writing bots.
https://youtu.be/H-AT42lYGBg
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>>571426080
>watching a literal children's show
i was going to be upset, but remembering it's /aicg/, i'm not surprised
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>>571425149
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxiiAhYK1L8
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>>571426337
99% of modern children's cartoons are actually just depressed mid-30s women's shows because they have arrested development. So do the men, but no one makes anything for them anymore.
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>>571425989
fair enough
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>>571426080
Man. The end to that show was so disappointing. They dropped the ball with the entire mystery. C&A, Blue/Abel, Who was still powering the computer.

I don't hate what they did with jax but they shat the bed with there whole premise. If I had to guess goose prob had more planned but the Twitter mob made her rush to just skip to the ending.
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>>571427354
They didn't have more planned. Goose had it all written out beforehand.
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>>571427354
Maybe they'll be an alternative version one day, one can hope
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>>571425149
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKM5jRAUgvU
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need a polite and refined drow princess who calls me silly
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>>571426080
Congratulations on your transition, xis!
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>>571428130
best i can do is two drow girls who love rimming fat sweaty human guys
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Am I missing anything?
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>>571428242
fat sweaty people dont exist in the worlds my chats take place
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>>571428130
need hotpants...
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>>571428242
Two is one too many, I don't earn enough to support a pair of wives.
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>>571428242
Make it fat sweaty girls and I might buy in
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>>571428242
make them sweaty but not fat and I'm rimming them
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>>571428603
one was like a tomboyish rogue and the other was some kind of scholarly noblewoman, i made them in a fit of passion because there weren't any decent female rimming men focused cards on chub
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>>571428296
Claude situation needs to be marked
https://youtu.be/Q-ymooD_sOQ
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>>571428130
this but also make her fat and sweaty
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>>571428873
surely you just find a card you like and put in "she really likes rimming {{user}}", or did you write their personality specifically to have a passion for rimming? you know, like a backstory about how she walked in on her mother giving her father one once that left a scar across her mind
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>>571429087
it was tied to cultural taboos in drow society because they hate humans and the only ones that aren't killed on sight are kept as slaves and they're supposed to celebrate macabre, dark beauty and not demean themselves in such ways
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i wish human woman was real bros...
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>forgets to disable NSFW jb
It will never not be embarrassing.
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I wish giant women were real bwoes
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>>571431087
same
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>>571431087
Same, the things I'd do to their ear canals
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>>571430246
Once I left a toggle on with instructions to write an erotic novel. I must have gone through 20 messages of random sauntering trying to do serious rp before facepalming.
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>>571430246
I did this with my dark storyline preset and wondered for a while why the fuck some of my more happy go luck cards were devolving into paranoia about things going on
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>>571431087
I wish you'd jump off a bridge, but sadly we can't always get what we want.
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>>571431087
I wish real women had big penises bwos
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>>571431087
who tailors all these elaborate clothes for the giant women
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>>571432278
shhh...
*draws anon away*
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Let's talk about Ratlice.
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someone is seething...
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>>571432278
billions of mini drider girls
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>>571432538
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>>571432436
There's nothing else to talk about and spamming this isn't going to get him to throw a 4th tantrum
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>>571431804
he'd need a really fucking tall bridge
di you even have eyes bloody bastard
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Let's talk about cute and refined girls that call you silly.
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>>571433346
Russet is NOT refined but calls me silly
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>>571430246
reminds me of that guy who forgot to turn off his cuck jb all the way back in 2023... damn i miss those days
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>>571433659
>ever turning off the cuck jb
couldn't be me
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>>571433140
*points a geiger counter at this post and nods when it starts crazy crackling*
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FABLE BACK TUESDAY
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>>571435247
SAY YOU SWEAR
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>>571435247
We are beyond back.
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>>571435247
made me look
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>>571340609
does settings like prompt post-processing or squashing system messages matter at all with this preset?
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>>571437398
i think only single user message affects it because it sends the entire prompt as user
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*3 hours later*
Finally done the first draft!
> checks tokens
> 2,600 before lorebook
Maybe I really am a failedmakie...
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>>571439667
we're in the more tokens = gooder arc now
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>>571439667
You're just cute and autistic :3
>*rubs ur tummy*
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>>571439667
the fact that you are insecure about that means you'll always be a failedmakie
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Fable is back for me.
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>>571439667
Haha, yeah...
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>>571439887
so that's why....
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>>571439869
I did tism to hard. Like I said I would. I keep getting distracted and bloating my cards with irrelevant lore :(
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Fable was mid and overpriced desu
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>>571440196
dense trvklear barrage
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:3
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>>571440196
>he was paying for it
Man, no wonder you guys are so mad about it
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>>571440456
Xenobotanon..? I've been losing hope.....
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alienfags may be eating well soon...
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>>571440517
>"I got it for free because ... because I just did, okay????"
Okay sure buddy
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>>571440661
We are losing the ancient texts...
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>>571439667
We've had a recent development where that's actually a pro now.
>>571340609
As long as those tokens are prose rich and sound like your character then you're on the right track.
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>>571440661
i got it for free but it did kill a few of my thingamabobs
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>>571439667
put it all into the LLM of your choice and ask it to reorganize it/make it as token efficient as possible and then build off that version. less tokens=less slop/AIsms to edit out and you can try to work out what elements of your prose are what are integral. i had to do that for a 2 character card that was like 3200 tokens or some shit.
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>>571440749
>We've had a recent development where that's actually a pro now.
unless they figured out how to give models infinite context AND not make what's in the middle irrelevant more tokens will never be a pro
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>he's not in a botmakie proxy
>in 2026
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>>571440903
bro typing like he's in 2023
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>>571441049
I'm literally just scraping for my own keys like a non-tard. Not aware of any still-existing ones.
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desu as soon as the claude code proxy went down i just stopped using chatbots
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>>571441049
I never got invited to one...
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>>571441293
i didn't even know we had a claude proxy
then again, i never check out /g/...
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>>571440525
https://youtu.be/sBrLwu2Lnb8
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>>571441425
it died 2 days ago
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>>571441049
s-surely my invite will come someday
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>>571441425
Why? It's the better general of the two tbdesu
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>>571441648
last i checked, nobody actually posts their bots over there
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>>571441778
NONE POSTS BOTS HERE EITHER
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>>571441049
People pretending not to be in one are trolling and the legitimate cases I've found always have weird stances where they think sending an email is against the 4chan code of honor.
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Themes, 760
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>>571339449
>>571374726
>>571340609
I see two bots and a new preset. I also see people linking bots from the past and discussing bots in the process they're making. Are you blind?
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>>571441778
But at least they post proxies
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>>571442172
rouxls kaard
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>>571442172
my little pony
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>>571442172
VAMPIRES AND ROCK'N'ROLL!
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>>571442172
Rage comics
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>>571442172
Futamom and daughterpov
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>>571442189
And that is exactly why it went to ruin
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>>571442172
Rayman 1
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>>571442172
BIG BIG BIG LADIES!
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>>571440185
Just put some of the lore into the lorebook and if that gets too long you can even make a glossary for the llm to reference to access that lore
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>>571442172
Cuckies
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>>571442172
zatsune miku
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>>571442172
Rayman 3
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>>571442172
Ratlice
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>>571442172
utopiavl
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>>571442172
Porco rosso
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>>571442172
Curly Brace
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>>571442172
mina the hollower
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>>571442172
Susumu Hirasawa
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>>571442172
Dario Amodei
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>>571442172
tummy hurt
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>>571442172
Catgirls with fat asses
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>>571442172
Conan the Barbarian.
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>>571442172
Dour Don Quixote (Limbus)
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>>571442172
water temple
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>>571442172
underaged anime girls
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>>571443340
>>571443340
>>571443340

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