God Bless AmericaGod Bless The Enclave>Fallout 4 Resources: http://rentry.org/fo4reschttps://fallout4map.com/>Fallout 76 Resources:http://rentry.org/fo76reschttps://fo76map.com/>Fallout 1 and 2 Resources:http://rentry.org/fo12resc>Fallout 3 and New Vegas Resources:http://rentry.org/fo3nvreschttps://mapgenie.io/fallout-3/maps/capital-wastelandhttps://srt4rulez.github.io/fallout-new-vegas-interactive-map/>/fog/ Modding Guideshttp://vivanewvegas.moddinglinked.com/http://themidnightride.moddinglinked.com/index.html>/fog/ Asset and Mod Repositoryhttp://rentry.org/89gads>/fog/ MSPaintAdventureshttp://rentry.org/fogwasters>Maps:Fallout 3: https://mapgenie.io/fallout-3/maps/capital-wastelandFallout New Vegas: https://mapgenie.io/fallout-new-vegas/maps/mojave-wastelandFallout 4: https://fallout4map.com/Fallout 76: https://fo76map.com/Pre-War thread: >>566234196
Does SS2 generally work well?I’m afraid because I keep seeing people bitching about bugs out the ass and general instabilityIs it just a case of poortards playing on a fucking Pentium or is the engine just not able to keep up with the complexity of it?
Beat me to the punch. Good work soldier.
Hail Unity.
Back during Fallout 3's times, they ran a contest for people to submit a perk idea, giving us Grim Reaper's SprintWhat do you think of the runner ups? I feel like Schizophrenia could've been interesting. Also Clumsy Mother seems like it would've been a cool idea, but it needs a bit of a bigger benefit than reduced damage from headshots
>>567461454I feel sorry for the dudes making suggestions like Money Talks, Schizophrenia and European Accent mistaking Fallout 3 to be primarily be an rpg and not a shooter. A lot of these would also be better fit as traits and not perks. Which also makes me feel sorry because Bethesda didn't even bother with traits in the game.
>>567459873SS2 is fun, but I had a lot of issues with it. One of my settlements started to CTD me if I got near it, but if I disabled SS2 I could go to it. Also after beating it's whole story my save started CTDing like crazy. Probably just a bad script from the previous issue haunting me. It's worth a playthrough, but i'm not sure if I'll do the whole main story again until he adds more content.
>>567461454Falling From Heaven sounds funny.
>>567461454Money talks and falling from heaven sound like they'd make some great speech lines.>>567462580If they didn't limit what it could be, yes.>Liberty prime>cars >vault doors>deathclaw hands
>>567462184Exactly.
>town gathered for the mayor to give a speech>intrusive thoughts ask me what if i were to just kill the mayor then and therelike kicking an ant's nest
>>567422450it's set in Appalachia, so it makes sense that it would appeal to us.t. West Virginian
we hunted a bighorner
>>567480824absolutely.
Has the FO76 ports ever catch up with all the new stuff? I got Afterlife Machine with a ton of 76 ports and then Steel Dawn, but that seems it.
any jp mod review sites for fnv like modtype? i swear at least one existed, but lost bookmarks
>>567487937not really, it largely died off around the time of Skyline Valley. Hitman, the main animation porter, moved back to messing with porting stuff to New Vegas, and the others working on ports moved on to other things or locked their stuff behind patreon like Alana, the one who ported clothing and armors.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wnJkiExSXY>>567491138I vaguely remember the one you're talking about. I think the guy who ran it posted on youtube but I can't find the channel with youtube's near-useless search engine. you might have better luck if there's a searchable /vg/ archive.
>>567492698Damn, guess I can paypiggy the patreon stuff next time I get paid. Got a link to them? "Alana Patreon" is giving me everything but FO4 stuff.
>>567492859looks like she moved to ko-fi at some pointhttps://ko-fi.com/alanasp
>>567493075So for only 5 euros I get access to both her power armor and armor emporium? Alright, next time I get paid unless someone beats me too it.
this game can be very relaxing at times
>Yes.>Yes, tell me more.>Yes, give me more money. (& Give me even more money.) Alternatively Yes. (Sarcastic)>No, but actually yes later.
I'm so glad I was born a Fallout 3/NV kid and not a 4 kid.
Best robot mods?
>>567509242https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/62255https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/31578https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/11459https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/29858https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/26531https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/26172https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/18670
>jamaica plains get attacked by some rust devils>stroll over and start combing the area to find them>see lasers going off and head that way>finish off the last rust devil>he managed to knock out the combat inhibitor on one of my explosive turrets>get gunned down before I can tell what's going on
Wish the Wattz 1000 Pistol had a rifle modification. Luv me rifles, simple as.Also I find it funny the FO4 nexus allows mods for VC mods but the Skyrim SE one doesn't.
I just realized they aren't making a new vegas remake for EXACTLY the same reasons they are afraid to to Re5 remake
>>567524764Niggers?
>>567524949Yep
guys pls>>567402807
>>567526329Don't play as a woman but I would assume all you would have to do is use bodyslider and then equip some sort of underwear mod and use it like that.
>>567526329Just search up how to do a unique player body for 4
If Fallout 4 had more multifaceted quests that allowed the player to insert their ego, like the Diamond City Blues quest, then Fallout 4 would've probably been universally liked.
Butch is such a dingus.
daddy
your gimmick is crapstop posting
your gimmick is goldkeep posting
gimmick is posting stopyour crap
I will never like the AER Laser weapon designs.
>>567548342That image looks cozy and suffocating at the same time.
>>567520495>VC mods?
>classic combat armor / fnv reinforced combat armor>optic pieces>t51-b>optic pieces>west coast mutants>optic pieces and implants>ncr ranger armor / riot armor >optic equipment
>>567556109Verified Creations, the new paid mods.
How to make peace with the fact that F4 has a godawful story and writing?I just want to enjoy the game man, the power armors are cool
>>567557923>rush the main story>skip all the dialogue>beat the game>go do all the sidequests and dlc
>>567557923I'm in the same boat honestly, Fallout 4 has made itself a game I HAVE to complete at least once but everytime I try I get half way through and I get disinterested. I have never met the institute nor have I seen the BoS main base and in fact this most recent playthrough is the first time I've seen the Railroad in any compacity. I have downloaded hundreds of mods to add more into the world but it still could use more work. (Verification not required) That being said this most recent attempt of mines isn't the worst and I am having an ok time when I do play it.
>>567557923Get the mod where it randomizes all the dialogue that shit is hilarious its about the best you can do with the voiced crap
>>567557923>How to make peace with the fact that F4 has a godawful story and writing?Install America Rising 2 and eliminate all Bethesda factions For The Enclave.
>>567561041
how do we feel about the broken steel quests? I mean the ones not apart of the main story, but the handful of random quests (or npcs and interactions) they added to the wasteland?
Told you guys i'd pay for Alana's 76 ports.Emporium: https://mega.nz/file/7gBkwDbS#8nk1tOvShBYWZGnGwFflepEFiq10qwthDKEKAbJVSscPower Armor: https://mega.nz/file/e4I1QARD#nQi_SbeyErMLIsVJE4QMVUhBJ0e9_qeMOdktlUZtlfgEnjoy, but someone should archive this cause this pretty much filled my mega account up so in a week or so I might have to delete them.
>>567557923Ignore it and do other shit
Skyrim had something called TitKit IIRC, that let you apply nipples and areolae as an overlay in the looksmenu, and I really want something like that for fallout, does anybody know if it exists? I have tattoos and pubes galore, but I can't give any characters big fat pancake nips. Don't really want a skin tex like that either, cause I don't want it on every one of my characters. Pic semi related
Is True Damage a meme? I feel like it was a mistake using it.
>>567555747>all white, with half of them blondhmm…
>>567557923I just accept what the game is. The writing is bad, but the gameplay is fun. I just see the writing as an excuse for the gameplay, which is likely by design.
In terms of game design should Cherchez La Femme & Confirmed Bachelor be designated as traits instead of perks? At least Lady killer & Black Widow could be described as enhancement towards speech/charisma checks and doesn't necessarily set your sexuality but the other two basically has the game admit you leveled up into a gay/bisexual person which comes across as pretty moronic imo
>>567577152you control the perks you take
>>567461454i like falling from heavencrazy eye is cute money talks is cool deal with the devil feels vague, what are the downsidestonality is another cool perk but i don't see anyone using it because of savescummingclumsy mother is funnyeuropean accent is neat but i don't think i would ever take itschizo is a cool idea.klepto is funny, but i feel like there should be a bigger downside?you first is coolnuclear man/woman is fun too
>>567580628That is not a response, you can also control the traits you take. I am unsure what statement you are trying to say to my initial question
>>567581698IDK. I skimmed your post.It's the same logic that says "I'm a Gun Nut now" or "I'm a Cowboy now" when taking perks.
From a roleplay perspective, when is a good time in the main story to do the Automatron, Far Harbor, and Nuka World content? I just finished Fort Hagen and was about to leave to Nuka World with the asspull of "Nora heard a distress signal for help" and being a goody two shoes went to investigate, got captured, and then returns as a crazy raider lady.But I almost wonder if it's better to wait until you find Shaun, and the mind fuckery of all that causes you to snap and wander off to wherever.
>>567581880So wait, you skimmed a short post and decided to respond with nonsense then after being called out on it still doubled down.Are you ESL and a fucking moron by any chance?
>>567509242Robots are for blasting.
>>567583105welcome to 4chan
>>567583105mom?
>>567565307Thanks man
>>567570715Hardcore Health Overhaul with adjusted values and Dynamic Dismember System are the 2 I use.
>>567583105i think the point was if you want to play a gay guy, you're gonna have to just not take the lady killer perk. it is roleplaying after all. gotta make sacrifices for the rp
>76 season ends june 2nd>rank 112i don't have time to make it to 150 do I bros?
>>567586865The previous poster plainly admits to not even properly reading the initial post to come up with a coherent response, why are you then trying to put words in his mouth for him?
>>567593585To be honest, I went back and re(read) your post and I'm still not sure what your complaint is exactly.
>>567594225Confirmed Bachelor is a gay perk, it implies you are a faggot aka homosexual. I am asking why isn't this a trait instead of the perk we have now. This isn't about the numbers its about the subtext behind the perk.
>>567589464Not unless you end up on a server with one of those weirdos that has 8000 wanted posters and does head hunts for 10 hours.
These are really cool effects and I wish that they were in 4(though psychopath is a little weak and needs more ranks, 10% is nothing)
F4SE says I should move the 4mb Data folder that comes with it into my game directory, but a 32gb folder named Data is already there, what do I do what do I do? will everything break if I just move the contents?
Wish Butch would be more tanky. It's easy to lose him to a single Enclave soldier, even with Dogmeat around!
>>567603997copy and paste the contents into your data folder. if something doesn't work properly, cross-reference the files you copied into your data folder and delete them.
>>567610771Get that guy hooked on medx
>>567573440
>>567583197Best mods for blasting robots?
weeeee
>>567613362Wait, really? He barely takes stimpacks I put into his inventory. Sometimes he remain on 25% health forever til the next fight starts ;_;
>>567619954You gotta force the injections
>>567509242https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/97059https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/89104https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/91724https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/89894https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/97697
>check the nexus>4 new mods>all translationsI see FO4 has the same issue as Skyrim SE where most mods are just translations.
>>567621162Fallout 4 isn't all that bad because there are several modders who release new content fairly regularly. Skyrim mods come out totally randomly and irregularly. Although some of the F4 modders have recently started making stuff for Skyrim too.
>>567621617That's because Skyrim is superior.:^)Oh and uh, cope.
>>567622059>Skyrim is superior.
>>567568514Anybody?
I'm trying to get the latest version of AAF but I don't want to join their discord or whatever. Anybody got it?
>>567594947You don't think being gay is a perk?
>>567567198The Legion also has vast territory going all the way to Denver and unlike the NCR manages to back a currency stronger than rusty pre war bottlecaps.
>>567577152Your character has a gay awakening during the game
>>567577152"Sexuality" is a spook and normal people are bi by default in real life.The "sexuality" perks should be free traits which you can take either or both at character creation and shouldn't give damage buffs.
how do we fix this
>>567640989embrace being a dullahan
>>567494476https://gofile.io/d/2f2fvkyou can pirate them herego to crafting part of settlement building to make the stuff
>Only 100 Creation Club Credits™What a steal!!!
I jut realized they tried to make Nate/the Sole Survivor basically Commander Shepard. The shitty dialogue tree directly points to that. That, and the predetermined backstory (although even you had some control over that). Difference is you could actually make Shepard into the kind of person you wanted to roleplay
>>567646330You just realized that?
>>567644892Another new one is okay, though I still wouldn't pay for it. Surprisingly Fallout 4 has quite a few good Creations. Skyrim and Starfield were far less fortunate.
I had a dream last night about how Charisma could be better in 4, and it's actually not a bad idea.Besides only affecting shop prices and asking for more caps (which can be easily handled by putting on fancy clothes first), it should also affect companion affinity.Affinity would build faster if you've got high charisma. Additionally, if you do something someone dislikes, you won't get as big of a penalty (I mean who hasn't overlooked serious character flaws in someone cause they're smoking hot?)Now this would only be any good if the companion perks were better which... they aren't, but it could actually be kinda interesting
>>567648168been awhile since I've played FO4 desu
I feel like Fallout as a franchise has kind of lost something the further we've moved from the 90s.Not something tangible or even reflective of any sort of quality, but maybe just a general feeling that although the games take place in this retrofuturistic world, they were still made by dudes in the 90s who grew up in the latter half of the 20th century
>>567646330It's a creeping suspicion of mine that Cait was modeled after Femshep. She has a deep red mullet and freckles. While this could just be a coincidence because she's Irish and Emil is a plastic paddy, the fact that they reused the exact same shade of red on a hairstyle that looks nearly 1:1 with Femshep's hair (along with the rest of the Mass Effect-y stuff in the game) makes me think that it was lifted from her design, which was on a lot of the promo material for ME2 only three years prior. The whole Minutemen General stuff was pretty on the nose too.
>>567654657>ME2*ME3
>>567654657I always did think she resembled femShep too, the hair is pretty spot on
>>567651271It's more that culture as a whole has changed, and so has the state of the industry. Modern game companies obviously don't want to publish games with dated references because zoomers won't understand them, but anything too recent inspires controversy and backlash from people who marketers want to promote their game. And with how rapid the flow of information is nowadays (and the relatively slow pace of dev->release), references to current events would be outdated as soon as the game releases. You can see other games like GTA struggling with this too.I guarantee you that GTA VI will release either with tons of dated references to Ukraine/Russia, Orange Man, the coof, etc, or it will release with basically no cultural relevance at all, and it will suffer for it.
>>567659226The GTA world stopped being fun when it was no longer a historical piece and is just modern day. IV accidentally became one due to it being set just before the smart phone "revolution".I recently replayed V and despite being 13 years old it is still insufferably modern day. Everyone is still a social media addicted shithead.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSy8Oh2fxtw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hv76CdP4anEWHERETHEFUCKISIT
It's always been funny to me how in classic Fallout, the Mysterious Stranger can just die and then that's it. He's completely mortal and can be killed off like its nothing.(also kinda weird how in 2 it'll be a girl if you're playing as one)
>>567557923FO4 story is honestly pretty coolFor example I was amazed when the Prydwen arrived and everything related to it
>>567565307no idea what those are but thanks nonetheless anon
>>567557923>How to make peace with the fact that F4 has a godawful story and writing?You play 76. 76 has an awful story and writing too but it's a better RPG than 4. You have a mostly blank-slate character, faction questlines that for the most part don't require you to progress through the god awful main quests, better dialogue system, better perk system, etc. If this game had sex mods nobody would bother with 4.
Think I'll do a Red Rocket build for my second camp.
>>567673000What kind of loot he drop in fo1
Where the fuck are the plasma caster mods that were pulled from the last update?Inb4>oh lol rare mod box drop from infestations next patch :)
For my London playthrough I decided to go for an Intelligence buildGot my hands on an alien blaster and it's been a lot of funTruthfully though, I really regret not going idiot savant. I'm tired of chugging mentats for less EXP than I'd get otherwise. It's a bit upsetting though that I can really only use energy weapons if I have high Intelligence, which I probably won't do in the futureGuess I better enjoy this now
>>567673000classic fallout mysterious stranger is cool because he/she gets better gear as you level up. literally just some mad max type coming to help you out
Energy weapons being tied to high Intelligence was always an awful design choice I hate having to build my character at the start to be able to properly use a whole weapon category No, melee scaling from high strength isn't the same thing
>>567684368Crafting being tied to perks in general feels like awful design.There's nothing more boring than having to take obligatory perks, just feels like a wasted level
>>567678261Equalizer my beloved>>567684368idk i kinda like it makes your character thematic or something
haha what the hell, they ported mama dolches from fallout 76 into this game. i'd recognize this place anywhere
What the hell is going on todayBoard is so fast
>>567684368Doesn't make much sense anyways. Even the dumbest super mutants or junkie fiends can use them just fine. Nothing special about it.
Sup /fog/gots.
>>567690930Henlo.
Some guy was buying things from my camp and I saw him and he gave me a Free States salute emote. Then I remembered that this was the same guy I met earlier on in the day who happened to stumble past my camp and inspect it. We ended up on the exact same server twice and I made like 500 caps selling my loot to him!
>>567691613where's my recettear x fallout game
>>567690930boobs
>>567690930slaving away over a hot xedit window
They started climbing up the tree and jumping off and dying the master's design
>>567688285praetorian pete
>ghoulification verified slop is heavily pushed by Bethesda >absolutely riddled with bugs>mod author just says "known limitations"lol how is the poster boy verified creation and even being sold for money?the quality of it is atrocious
I can't find a plasma weapon i like. What are your guys favorite plasma weapon mods?
>>567700846out of curiosity, what all is wrong with it? I contemplated adding it for a playthrough but was waiting for it to get updated.>>567701462for which game?
>>567701539Shit, sorry. For 4.
>>567701604the plasma caster creation has 3 or 4 different plasma caster models. there's also a port of the gatling plasma and plasma caster directly from 76. the creation includes a 76-styled one, too. the plasma defender creation is also really good. I'd say it's the best of all of the plasma defender mods available. it's part of the revenge of the van graffs creation, alongside the laser rcw.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83MqPGtcXWIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXl50M4ERls&t=79shttps://gofile.io/d/QxQ08rhttps://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1akD4Jw_uTWvJ0wMVne28uUacufLMUiGGother than those, it's slim pickings for plasma weapons.
>>567702290Yeah I've been using the defender for a bit but I like rifles over pistols so I was hoping a good rifle oriented one was around. I was using the musket VC mod but I ain't too fond of crank weapons. I know an old plasma gun I have installed, a glock or something? I don't know I've been using that one for a good year or two now, want something new. Thanks regardless for the suggestions though.
>>567702502I hear you. I'm still holding out hope for a good fallout 3 and new vegas style plasma rifle and multiplas rifle mod. there is another one that I just remembered that was modelled after the classic fallout plasma rifle. it might be closer to what you're looking for. the attachment pack by dak and friends adds mods to the vanilla plasma rifle that make it look similar to the classic plasma rifle and the cut new vegas duoplas rifle. there's a couple of screenshots of them in the gallery if you want a preview.https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/49201https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/76924
>>567703059Cheers, i'll check em out.
>>567703059Thanks, I could also use more plasma since I'm going energy weapons this play through.
friends, what causes infinite new game loading screen in fo4? there doesnt seem to be any consistency
>>567459804Imagine the smells of dirty raider bitches during Mojave summer.
>>567722892>tfw they didnt release a matching jetpack for this skin There isnt a single jetpack skin that looks good with this and it genuinely makes me upset
imagine being a shitpack goober unironically
>>567736339As opposed to using what in the chest slot? Everything else sucks a bag of dick
i just wanna fuck my dad
does anyone know where to get ithttps://creations.bethesda.net/en/fallout4/details/e2b60e1b-5fb0-4af5-bddf-8e1eae4edaa4/Barriers__amp__Sandbags
why is mother jain such a fucking bitch now I can't get heals, I'm gonna kill this cunt
I don't think it's ever been so obvious that 76 is starting to wind down development before nowhttps://youtu.be/BljWi5T42okIs this supposed to get people excited?
>>567753018Never happening lmao
>>567754786>season 25damn I had no clue
>the Sierra Madre LOD mod is a byproduct of them working on Fallout 2 in New Vegas engineI hope they finish because Fallout 2 is unplayable.
>>567757963>Fallout 2 is unplayableWhat? It's perfectly fine. If anything I have no idea how you'd turn such a large game into a 3D experience unless it'd require the vehicle mod and actually have absolutely nothing between towns as you drive across the empty wasteland
>>567754786Yeah. Was checking Nuka Knights earlier. Grim outlook.Infestations are half-assed Head Hunts you have to wander around to find, and more fishing. Woo-motherfucking-hoo.
>>567760145Fallout 2 is unplayable. I tried to make an energy weapon character and couldn't finish the trial, couldn't kill scorpions or geckos. It was miserable and I dropped it.Obviously you'd just place things closer to each other like in New Vegas.
So this happened on my new vegas playthrough
>>567760617Not the game's fault you tried to start with the endgame skillBesides you could've just avoided the enemies
>>567760617>Obviously you'd just place things closer to each other like in New Vegas.Also how would that work? The game is too goddamn big. Disregarding the logistics of making all those areas which is intense for a small modding team, we're talking putting San Francisco, New Reno, Vault City, the NCR, and all the other smaller towns within walking distance of each other and you'd see them over the horizon? That'd look like ass.
>>567761993>Not the game's fault it let you use the character creator to build a character in a perfectly reasonable way and the game was unplayable as a result>>567762371Obscure them with hills and trees and stuff like how you can't see Big Town from Megaton or Novac from Primm idk.Here's a 7 year old pre-alpha areahttps://youtube.com/watch?v=B1h-BLrZYR8
>>567761798
The only child killer perk owner in all Bethesda games.
>>567766118You can kill a lot of children in 3 by blowing up MegatonAnd there's killing fake shaun if that counts
>>567766908That's true! There's one pedo in Megaton who kidnapped the little girl and took her as her own, plus the kid from the sheriff.
>>567766908Oh right and there's children aboard the Prydwen when you blow it up
>>567767728This is why vaultie women are goddesses. 200+ years of doing nothing but breeding. Being born to mate. Doing nada but sex.
>>567756131cute
>>567767147Megaton pedo?
>>567768438How come there are no kids in 101 after you grow up though?>>567769313https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Billy_Creel
>>567767728Is that supposed to be dystopian?
>>567767728
>>567769590Probably.
>>567769546>Colin Moriarty hates Creel and considers his fatherly facade to be nothing more than a fraud. Although he has no concrete evidence, Moriarty believes that Creel actually killed Maggie's parents and took her as a sort of trophyThere's no solid evidence to support that theory, or evidence of Billy being a pedo.
>>567769546a lot of inbreeding, look at the size of their gene pool. maybe 5-6 women and men each in your class, then the half a dozen others in security, maybe Butch's mom and that bitch who gives you the poem.
>>56775478676 has some content around the bend, but they keep running into the endgame problem and any content added being finished in two hours.>>567756131Looks like its through a tv screen.>>567760617That area punishes you for not picking the simplistic path first, because your starting point is a tribal.>>567767728Realistically, how long would a vault of 100 people last before you get inbreeding?
>>567768772>>567770532thanx
>>567762771There is a reason why the devs added NPCs in the beginning areas that can train your unarmed skill.For retards like you.
>>567770428Wouldn't they have frozen eggs in the vault?>>567770483It's also the way he talks about her and the general double speak and tone of it. He brings her up completely out of blue to a random stranger in a bar and talks way too much about her in detail. Definitely not something you would do as a real protective step-parent.>>567770532Some inbreeding might be okay, like with cousins and such. Only 20% chance of a mutant.
>"roleplaying" game>you HAVE to use melee!! You built your character wrong!So like I said, Fallout 2 is a bad game and rebuilding it in New Vegas engine is the only way to salvage it.
>>567770938shes cute she's got a betty boop feeling
>>567769546>How come there are no kids in 101 after you grow up thoughThere's actually a note about it in the Overseer's terminal. They have controlled breeding seasons to prevent undesirables from mating. That’s one of the reasons the Overseer hates the player character: the Overseer is a megalomaniac and sees the player character as invasive.
>I AM SCARED OF PROGRESSION WAHHHH WAHHHHHH
>>567771017>It's also the way he talks about her and the general double speak and tone of it. He brings her up completely out of blue to a random stranger in a bar and talks way too much about her in detail. because that's how bethesda writes
>I want to follow structured progression on rails!Then read a book? Fallout 2 is a terrible RPG.
>>567771303Isn't the melee bullshit only in the first level and once you leaver Arrayo you can do what you want?
>>567771303Or small arms.
VGH....the urge to rule over a small post-apoc shantytown and crown yourself king of the wasteland...
>>567771890Yup, my first playthrough i just ran through the trial and then grabbed a gun.My experience with fallout 1 taught me that big/energy guns are endgame so i started with small guns.
>>567771545she is a mix of boop and olive oyl and a little of josephine baker
>>567772193President Dave is not a king, though.
>i made a bulid that can't fight, stealth, or run away>it must be the game's fault!
I don't see what the big problem is with 2Unarmed is broken the entire game so just do that
Dave said he freed the people of (then called Kingdom of Tom) the Republic of Dave, but only him, his wives, and his children live there.
>>567772931>>567776087doesn't fallout 2 have OP guns, OP energy weapons, OP powerfist, OP melee lollike how the fuck can you fail
neat
I'm reinstalling the frontier.
>>567596643oh well. also i never got one of those wanted posters to work for me, it always says i've got one going when i have never done one and have zero quests for one.
Rate my family
>>567772469Queer art style.
Every /fog/ discord I join is gay. Is there a straight one?
>>567787189Fallout is pretty gay, dude. Its founder, Tim Cain, is a gay fat cunt that kisses dudes on they're are lips and assholes.
>>567787612I fucked your mom until her legs gave out but I don't make discord servers about it.
>>567786264crab
>They call you a crab but not wrong
>>567788531>no draw opinions being right
>got to level 100 grinding west-tekWith 15 INT and Rank 3 Legendary INT I'm getting 800-900 XP for every mutie I kill. I'm still not sure I'm gonna complete the scoreboard in time but with the 40% boost it's certainly getting easier, /fog/bros.
Stopping fighting amongst yourselves. /fog/ is better than this!
>>567789745It's obvious some anon is bored and wants (you)s just ignore it
Season 25 looks boring.
>>567767728i cum for she
>>567754786>I don't think it's ever been so obvious that 76 is starting to wind down development before nowWe already know they are doing a Burning Springs part 2 update for later this year, and have plans to add the Capital Wasteland as a new area probably next year. Given that that is also most likely going to be broken into two parts, we'll get a big Capital Wasteland part 2 update in 2028. After THAT then the game will likely wind down since thats the last thing they've been building to since they first added expeditions into the game files in like late 2021 or w/e
>>567471361I have a mighty need.
>>567648304Skyrim has way better creations than Fallout 4. Bards College expansion, the east empire company, the Orsinum creation, etc. etc.
>>567791759If it starts to fizzle out after the Capital Wasteland update, fair enough. But as it is, things are just sad. As if the game was deathly ill and is desperately trying to hold back death until they can fulfill their final task.The bigfoot and then infestation update, the decline of season rewards. Well, I guess now that I mention it, it is like watching a loved one wither away. Everyone knew it was coming, but it's still sad to watch.
>>567792498>But as it is, things are just sad. As if the game was deathly ill and is desperately trying to hold back death until they can fulfill their final task.Not really. It's pretty typical of the smaller updates F76 has done for awhile.Like Ghoul within, or Once in a Blue Moon.
>>567792881Also Bethesda already explained what they are doing this year. Stuff like the bigfoot update was meant to revamp things like the old events, and infestations are basically new "hoards" as part of their long running series of updates to things like perk cards, armor, weapon damage, the camp UI, etc. etc. which is building to a big next gen update that is supposed to come out later this year. Its less about trying to add in a bunch of new stuff, but fix up a lot of the stuff that is already in the game for the next-gen update.
>>567767614Nice
>>567767728Why couldn't Hank just fuck Lucy. If he had just fucked Lucy then the show would have never happened.
>>567793350I will say that Fallout 76 has two big issues going forward past 2028/Capital Wasteland.1. Fallout as a franchise only has a small list of general enemy types to draw from. Raiders, ferals, super mutants, generic mutant wildlife, unique regional mutations(Troggs, Marked Men, etc.), robots, and evil high tech factions(Enclave, Institute, Big Mt). Fallout 76 has done most of those, with the story heading to a confrontation with the Enclave in the Capital Wasteland area in the future. After that, the only things really left to use would be like the lovecraft stuff, and the aliens, and I'm not sure how willing they are to do that, or if Bethesda Maryland would let them do that even if they wanted.2. Bethesda tried expanding the game outside the map with expeditions, and people didn't really like those, so planned expedition areas like Skyline Valley, and the Capital Wasteland, are being turned into map expansions. But the issue is, and Bethesa has even admitted this, they can't keep expanding the map. While Skyline and Burning Springs added new areas, they didn't expand the actual map art more south of west, they just got plugged into gaps in the existing map area. Given that area is likely the largest they can make the map, that really only leaves like 3.5 Skyline valley spaces to expand into, and one of those will be taken up by the Capital Wasteland. So really theres only like 2.5 spots on the map that can actually support future map expansions. I guess if they wanted to do an aliens/cultist storyline that could cover it, but that would actually be it.
>>567790714All seasons have been boring.
>>567796264>But the issue is, and Bethesa has even admitted this, they can't keep expanding the map>they didn't expand the actual map art >really only leaves like 3.5 Skyline valley spaces to expand intoIt's not the map art that's the problem, it's that they said the game is starting to hit its limit for how big the worldspace can be without severely damaging performanceI'll assume burning springs 2 will handle the south part of the ohio area on the map, and hopefully the river but after that they probably can't do much more. Some anon made this mockup of possible regions for expansion but ultimately, I don't think we're even gonna get a map expansion into the Capital Wasteland. The Capital Wasteland was always meant to be an expedition and they're already letting us down saying don't expect much more in the way of worldspace expansionsThe sad truth is that their ultimate patch 76, possibly the last hurrah for this game, is going to be an expedition, and no one likes those. Sure people will get all excited at first, but play it a couple times then go back to grinding the most dangerous game. You'd think Bethesda would've noticed based on how no one liked daily ops that expeditions wouldn't be popular either but I think they're too far into this now.
They can release Fallout 2088, a west coast MMO.
>>567797264>It's not the map art that's the problemI never said the map art was the problem, I said the map art represented how large they could likely make the game space.> it's that they said the game is starting to hit its limit for how big the worldspace can be without severely damaging performanceWhich is what I was referring to.> I don't think we're even gonna get a map expansion into the Capital Wasteland. The Capital Wasteland was always meant to be an expedition and they're already letting us down saying don't expect much more in the way of worldspace expansionsSkyline valley was meant to be an expedition also.>The sad truth is that their ultimate patch 76, possibly the last hurrah for this game, is going to be an expedition, and no one likes those. Sure people will get all excited at first, but play it a couple times then go back to grinding the most dangerous game. Given that they admitted expeditions were a failure, and even cancelled the third Pitt expedition they were working on after Atlantic City came out, I find this unlikely.>You'd think Bethesda would've noticed based on how no one liked daily ops that expeditions wouldn't be popular either but I think they're too far into this now.Huh? People really enjoyed daily ops. WTF you smoking.Also, I'm fairly certain that's the map I made awhile back.
Installed the frontier(nexus download took forever) I don't think I'll get long 15 it looks dumb and gay and I hate NCR.
>>567797264>I'll assume burning springs 2 will handle the south part of the ohio area on the map, and hopefully the river IIRC Btthesda has oturight confriemd the river, and people who broke out of the invisible walls have said there are terrain edits both north and south of the existing Burning spring area. So we'll get the river and probably these two areas.
>>567800497Buddy you shoulda got it from the internet archive, you'll miss all the good stuff
>>567800497Also you are in for a treat. It might be shakey at times, but it's good fun. The worldspace is great, the sidequests are really nice, the NCR quest is so cheesy that i love it, honestly the Legion is the worst of the three paths since it's just a watered-down safe woman-appreciating version of them>>567800769I'll just be happy if I get my damn river, I've dreamed since I started playing of going across it and I'm terrified they'll keep it the way it is so that you have to enter Burning Springs "the intended way".I'm surprised to hear that there might be stuff north, things seem pretty final if you go along the northern border, but I think I remember one of the devs saying they wanted to do one of the cities that's further north, but i'm a bit foggy on that>>567797904Hmm, well the one thing I will say is if they want some kind of Enclave finale, it'd likely have to happen by traveling to Raven Rock so it would make sense to expand the map (too bad there's hardly anything good on the west side of the Capital Wasteland).I would be really excited if they did expand that way I'm just, trying not to get my hopes up.
>>567800820>>567801487I've played it before and I have 1.0 archived. The nexus version is better.
When is a good time in the story to go to Far Harbor or start Nuka World?
>>567804812When you feel bored of the current map and want to start a new one
>>567789684Hop servers so you can get 2x-3x the events done every 20 minutes. Run head hunts if you have the caps, those counts as events.
>59 ultracite lab kills>still no vulcan jetpack
>>567821109Cute woman.
Bleachers 2 or Thuggy-series?Wich one of those edgy poser things is actually fun to play through?
>>567836083None
>>567792320>etc. etc.You’ve basically listed all the good Skyrim VCs.The Bards College expansion and the East Empire Company were created by the SS2 developers which is free and far more extensive than these two VCs.Orsinum is cool, but it’s basically a chunk cut straight from Lordbound that was thrown out into the world unfinished while the developers went off to make a paid mod.
>>567836083avoid both like the plague
>>567840071>SS2shit
>>567836083Both I guessYou can have both installed at the same time I'm pretty sure
>>567836083Literally none of them
>>567783113Adams/10
>>567836083Neither are particularly fun or goodbut bleachers is slightly less bad I guess
seeing that massive recoil with small guns while wearing power armor gives me the ick, it's the #1 reason why I don't use it
>>567857938What do you mean? You see recoil when Nate's friend executes the Canadian with a pistol.
>>567460090Unity is globohomo.
should i play sim settlements 2are the quests good
>>567860068yes
>>567860068I’ve never got past the middle of the second episode but all the side factions and quests are pretty good.
>>567860046The Master and his ilk hate gay people. Ironically, Super Mutants are an anti-gay allegory.
>>567860068Quests goodSettlement mechanics not so much
>>567861540The settlement mechanics are kinda tedious but you can thankfully automate most of it. The HQ stuff is pretty annoying though and kinda buggy.
>>567859004yea, and that's a shit design choice
>>567760617>Retard blames the game for their own shortcomings Many such cases.
>>567771663don't joke like that, I had a childhood friend who progressed down a well and it traumatized him.
>>567760617The devs were forced to put that trial into the game last minute.
>>567760617You aren't going to change history without a spear anon
>>567760617I'll be the one to say that I agree with you, I tend to have awful luck so even when I main in melee I tend to miss like crazy or not do enough damage so I can understand your frustration with the trail. Honestly that follows me until half way through the game but when I stop missing every and dying then it becomes really fun.
I just really like 2 for how ridiculous it is to have 5 companions. Kit them all out with the best gear and you'll be an unstoppable kill squad, it's greatI'd use Charisma more if the other games were like this
>>567895221You can easily mod 3/NV to do that.
>>567895732I never thought about maybe using one of those unlimited companion mods but using the honor system to tie it to my charisma.Hmmm, that could work
>>567897062There are mods to increase companion limit with charisma
Does the gun from Tale of a Beast Hunter not make noise for anyone else?
>>567459804>get back into fallout 4>download bunch of safe for work modded quests>first quest i find strips my character and canonicly serach my ass>cant kill every slaver in the building >forced to work with themYes i wanted an evil mod but i didnt want my character stripped and kidnapped.Why are modders so obssesed with putting player in prison
>>567761798I hate it when that happens to my courier
>>567902337>>cant kill every slaver in the buildingAs in they are essential npcs?
>>567902337Thuggied
How's your day going /fog/?
>>567917636Going well, playing 4 again after SS2 destroyed my last save. Working on a mashup in OS for my character.
>>567917787is ss2 that unstable
>>567918138It might have just been my majorly modded setup. But one settlement I couldn't go to cause I'd CTD trying to get close. I spent a good while trying to figure out why, but when I disabled SS2 and went there I didn't crash. I figured maybe it was just a one off thing that got fucked up, but after beating SS2s story all the way my game started to CTD about a minute or half a minute into playing. Again, could just be a me issue. I like SS2, but I think if I'm gonna do SS2 again, i'll save it for the last thing I do on that save just to be safe.
>>567917787That is some kitbashed armor.What faction are you supporting?
>>567918539I usually end up going Enclave with American Rising 2. Before I ever played that mod I just did BoS.
>>567918375>But one settlement I couldn't go to cause I'd CTD trying to get close.Sounds like Triangle of Death
>>567918539>tfw still no black eyed susans soothintodd you fucking nigger jew i want my tea recipe
>>567918754Interesting.I've tried a run with each vanilla faction, how's the enclave one?>>567919819I have a spare, if you want it.
>>567920414>how's the enclave one?It's kino.
>>567919685>Triangle of DeathBad mesh?>>567920414AR2 is by far the best quest mod FO4 has to offer. Id highly recommend it.
>>567920414ar2 is great, genuinely an auto install anytime I play through 4you really do have everything unlocked dont you anon, its aces
>>567921543>Triangle of Deathsanctuary, red rocket, and abernathy. they are all so close together that the game loads them all and shits itself
>>567923665Ah I see. It was the Starlight Drive. I even made a post about it on kinggath's site but nobody ever replied to it.
>>567917787Snakestone why you cheating on /tesg/?
Pretty cool even if it is AIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zi207mi0IrE&t
>>567930097I post here often actually. And /tesg/ isn't the only general I visit, nor was it my first.
>>567931872Based You rule king I love your posts
>>567932723Thanks! I just have a huge soft spot for Betheda games it seems.Well, maybe not starfield.
>>567917787Kiggath mods are save game destroyers. Watchtower has this same issue in Starfield. It CONSUMES your game like sim Settlements does, and often just bugs it out.
>>567933307Yeah, I learned my lesson from him with Skyrim's Bards College Expansion by him. Destroyed my save, apparently according to an anon the mod has like a constant running of script(s) even when you're not doing the quests.
just need to do a hardcore run now :3
>>567933846That sounds... awfulI never went deep into the SS2 campaign and mostly used the mod for the buildingsI'm kind of afraid now lol
>>567935148Well for the longest time I played SS2 up to when you take over the Gunners HQ. And stopped cause I figured that was the end of it. Then my friend who told me about SS2 told me it has a lot more after that, so I did it my last save and after finishing the whole quest of SS2 my save started CTDing like crazy. So I guess it's safe until then? The final chapter does add a lot of shit and things you don't normally see in FO4 mechanics wise, so maybe that shit is what broke my save.
>>567935906I see thanks for the headsup I usually stop a bit before that to focus on other things so I never knew there was so many more thingsNext time I feel like finishing the mod I'll create a separate save for it and see how things work out
>>567934031I ought to go back and finish mine up one of these days. yes, I bought the game 3 times. I pre-ordered it on PS3 when that was my newest system, then moved to 360, then switched to PC entirely.
>>567920704>>567921543I'll have to give it a try then.>>567922221>spoilerShit, sorry i wasn't on after.and i don't know everything, just quite a bit.
>>567899161works for me, the only issue being that the firing sound is biased to the left channel.
>>567915613There is like a dozen of essentials in Depravity's slaver appartment complex, including a 10 year old with a gun, not Jason Voorhees, and not Harley Quinn, and all of them are brutal and edgy tryhards but kind of self-aware, except for the main guy who tries to do a "punished Preston" thing and fails spectacularly.They are like basically a Belcher's Cave gang from Tales of the Commonwealth but worse.
>>567568514I am asking once more
>>567933307I wish I could just have the quests from it without all the unnecessary junk.
>>567702290pass for archives at the gf link?
>>567956961cs.rin.ru
>>567861018Globohomo doesn't mean gay. It means global homogenization.
>>567946440The concept of adding essential NPCs in a quest mod boggles my mind.What is the mod author scared of? Does the npcs wander out in the wasteland.
>>567480824Tribal bitch waiting for meat.
Are there really no Enclave flags in 76? Maybe from an event I missed?
>new level 20 player comes over to my camp>buys my level 50 minigun>he won't be able to use it for 30 more levels
https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/105061Big iron, disregard the furries
Which one?
>>567982527You can play 2 just fine just don't progress too much into the questline if your game is bloated with other heavy mods
I've started a TTW playthrough, played 3-10 hours, and restarted like ten times this month. I have some form of autism.
>shooting a certain raider in Lexington causes my game to lock up and then crashWeird
>>567990876This is what happens with me for EVERY RPG. I get choice paralysis and sit there staring at the screen for ages. This is especially true for more complex RPGs where I feel like I'll be worse off if I don't spec into who I want to play as right from the start.
Who are some good mod authors for adding in lore-friendly weapon variety to Fallout 4?
>>567993272he holds the keys to the universe
>made close to 25,000 caps selling legendaries at my camp these past couple of days
>>567933067I think Bethesda are the only company to make games that combine all these mechanics:>Open world with a sandbox approach to questing.>Every (Fallout is looser with this) NPC in settlements having a name, having their own schedules, and homes.>Being able to take everything from NPCs' inventories.>Being able to pick up and drop random items.These mechanics make up the foundation of the game, which allow for micro-freedoms that immersive the player in the world.I think the reason why people dislike Starfield is because it deviated the most from these mechanics.
>>568003460True enough, I think it's also the character creation aspect. I love a game where I can make my generic biker guy in it.
>>568003616Yeah, the ability to make your own character is definitely a big reason why Bethesda games are popular. I should've listed that as well.
>>567940180Thanks again anon, always appreciate you around these parts.
>>568000063Nice, what are you spending them on?>>568003616>I can make my generic biker guy in it.Love games that let you make your go to character in them.>>568005585No problem, good to not hoard things that i'll never have a use for.
>>568007673>Nice, what are you spending them on?Plans from the Watoga vendor.
>>568008721Oooh, completing that list of plans?Im at the point where caps go to wanted posters and legendaries i don't know to craft from players.
>>567567198Is this image true?I thought the legion was the least fleshed out in new Vegas.What were they supposed to be if true?Even if the legion is bad I think Jen winning new Vegas would have led to a more interesting timeline.But my gut always saya that mr house is the best ending in making the Mohave a kind of Switzerland neutral zone between legion and new California republic.
I think I'm starting to warm up to the plasma pistol. It's no rifle, but it's fun to use.Also, I've noticed the monster/creature mods for FO4 are very few but seem decent to high quality mesh/texture wise.
Has a total conversion mod of fallout 4 been made that basically isn’t fallout but still a fallout post apocalyptic game?Skyrim got that. I’m not sure the British mod counts.
Ant queen armor is kinda cute ngl
>>568009715What legendary? I have so many legendary items from public events, West-Tek grinding, etc, that I've taken to selling and scrapping a lot of them. I might be able to give you some legendary stuff with the effect you want if you'd like so you can scrap it and reuse the effect if you get it, if I have it of course. But you're such a high level that anything I have might not be useful to you.
What do we think of the Tales from the Commonwealth + Settlers from the Commonwealth + Atomic Radio mod?
Oh, he looks like rape on legs.
>>567644298what's the password for the latest CC?
>>568018434I wish this mod was for the rust devils instead of the gunners and I also wish that there was a proper mod so that we could build them. The other mod doesn't work properly and that makes me sad as a person who loves robots.
>>568019778Oh, we can't craft Mr Rape? Damn.
>>568018434>>568020073Replace the nigger with Mr. Rape mod when?
>>568015481>What legendary?Mostly the bounty ones and 4 stars, save a few.I've been fortunate to learn icemens, given what they plan to do in the future.
>>568018884nvm found it
I know it's just a game but it's funny to think that Susan can't walk 5 feet away from her house to pick some flowers without getting 25 vault dwellers to do it for her.
>>568010536Yeah most of the ones I've tried were pretty neat. I still need to try them all tho Since you mentioned I'll list the ones on my creature list that add new creatures - if you want to check it out and for me to remember to add to my next save>Resident Evil creatures mods>GrilledTurkey mods>REDargo mods>Project NEMEAN>Mutant Menagerie and/or UNPC>FGEP new ghouls>More Feral Ghouls >DECAY Redux>Forced Evolution new super mutants and their pets>Gremlins>Kudemborots>Dreadsharks>Defective Synths>Goremites>Hyper Bog Bestiary>Age of Steel>Deathwings>Radical - COA>M's Abominations (don't like this one)Anyanon use any other mod so I can add to the list?
>>568026093>KudemborotsThey're really cool but in my game they're ultra-tanky. .50 Cal and 20mm does little to them. My game for some reason is super unbalanced. Shit kills me in a hit or two but takes forever to kill them. I think it might be True Damage, a mod my friend who loves FO4 suggested to me.You've listed some good ones I didn't know about, like defective synths and gremlins. Creature mods have always been a favorite of mine in Bethesda modding, so i'm happy to see someone has made a list.
don't let the thread die faggots
On what basis are you claiming this, Bobby? What if they just throw the chip in a vat of acid or into a blast furnace out of spite?
>>568032160I like the design of Fallout 1's Power Fist in part because it looks like it's much more convenient to wear. Something you'll always have on your person, and that you can wear it while holding guns. I don't hate 3/NV's Power Fist. The pneumatic piston plate is a neat idea, but my issue with the design is just how chunky the gauntlet is. The NPCs look like their arms are stuck in a five gallon bucket. Only thing about 1's Power Fist that's a bit confusing is how it would function. What makes it a POWER fist? The description says it has a kinetic energy storage device inside, but IDK how that would work or why it'd necessitate energy cells.
>>568027476I like True Damage in theory but I never got to use it because my games are always so heavily modded and I'm not sure what can or will be affected by the changes
>>568021206>4 starsI can give you this if you want, it's probably not useful but it's the only 4 star I have on me right now. I have about 12 3 stars and the rest are 2/1 stars.
The obsession fallout 4 modders have for modern weapons is disgusting.
>>568032640The reason it looks like that is because some of fallout 1's assets where just taken off of a fantasy RPG. That power fist looks like a gauntlet from medieval plate armor
>>568033945Bethesda kind of made this inevitable with their stupid pipe bullshit and weird proportion hunting rifle that you need a mod to give a visually long barrel
>>568033945I can tolerate some modded modern weapons but the ones that look brand new like they just came from fucking Battlefield or COD are too much I kinda like the Cyberpunk weapon mods tho which is funny
Hey guys, which Fallout has the best gore mods? I want to see blood splatter FX all over my screen and cartoonishly gratuitous violence.
anyone know a good site to get updated patreon mods for fo4?
>>567895221I use aft plus for fallout 4 to do that. it has an option to enable charisma limits for followers
>>567993272>>567995550No he's just the protagonist. If he dies, your most recent save has to be loadedhttps://youtu.be/2Q775Sjs-Pk?t=39
>>568038056kemono
>>568040691its outdated or the paywallers moved to sites like boosty
>>568041453It's still probably the largest resource for paywalled mods, stuff that's brand new is kind of unreliable to find but Yandex is 10x better for searching this kind of thing than google.
One time I take drugs for a boss fights and this happens. Cruel
Fallout 76-2 soundtrackhttps://youtu.be/apBWI6xrbLY?si=vjxaycaEYl_rlh_A
>>568043184try that in a legion town
>>568043184didn't your dad tell you chems are bad, mmkay?
>>567934031>>567939489I don't know how or why but after years of having NV installed, on my last playthrough, the achievements started popping up
>>568026093https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/98116https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/99064and some mesh replacers I usehttps://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/100543https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/33736https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/93560https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/93559https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/84896
>>568052029I had the same thing happen in 4. after I re-did my modlist, I loaded my save to start testing, and it popped up a few achievements from Far Harbor that I had already completed but didn't get credit for for some reason.
I think I overdid it with this mashup.
>roaming burning springs>come across a rust deathclaw and a rust raider>weapon breaks>realize I left my other weapons back in my stash>oh fuck>run into dude's camp>it's nice, tons of cool stuff, it's themed like the goodsprings gas station>rust deathclaw plunders through his turrets like a knife through butter>run into gas station>deathclaw gets caught between debris, the door, and a ruined car>I take this opportunity to unload at him with a 10mm pustol with 1000+ rounds>finally kill deathclaw>phew.jpg>walk out of dude's camp>see his turrets are all destroyes>repair them for himAlways remember to pay it forward, 76ers
>>568053287Gotta love appleshit keyboards, every time this thing ghosts I wanna smash off the fucking wall
>>568053287Stop making sense and nuke the camp
>>568053287now nuke his camp
>download three files from GECK Extender on NV nexus>put GECK.exe in root directory>install extender and config in MO2>launch GECK.exe with MO2>nothing happens, it doesn't launch the GECK
These goofy guys remind me of Guars.
What mods should a twitch streamer install for New Vegas?
>>568052029neat thanks anon >>568057948a modpack would be bestjust check the OP or Nexus for the more used ones
preston drowned
God London has so many weird design decisions, like they name all the characters but you have no idea which ones just have generic dialogue and which are important so you have to talk to all of them>>568053287It's nice how deathclaws are finally scary in Burning Springs. They've just been utter jokes in 4 and 76>>568057948How many subscribers do you have? Are you big time, or just trying to make it big?
Is there really no mod for F4 that lets you see your body and legs in first person?
>>568068132Your AGP acting up?
I'm not sure how a bar in London's equivalent of the Glowing Sea was supposed to work
CBBE or Fusiongirl?
>>568071903cbbebecause I haven't tried anything else and I don't want to try anything else
>>568068132Surely theres some that replace the first person model with the third person model
I think i'm gonna uninstall fallout 76, recent seasons are trash, they made my fav weapon (gauss rifle) a pain in the ass to use, anways it was nice while it lasted
>>568089034Game has always been trash, you can only blame yourself for wasting precious lifespan on this pile of garbage
>>568071903depends on you reallywhat kind of bodytype do you like?
Is this the only green eyes NPC in the whole game?
>>568091587eh, got some dopamine out of it, camp building and exploring the pretty map was nice, but nothing much outside of that
Is this a bug? I have Butch, Dogmeat and the robot Gutsy soldier all following me as companions. I thought you can only have two at max!
>>568100931Colonel Autumn has green eyes, too. Though, the eye color in that screenshot looks too saturated to be vanilla.
>>5680681324 is a bad game with bad mods, so it can't be helped.
>>568111516tranny game lol
>>568111909tranny game > bad game
>>568111909And these are the same people that gloat and poke fun at boomer humor. Trooner humor is objectively worse.
i will go now and distribute all water
>>568112281Whatever you say, Fallout: Neo Vagina fan
>>568112360BASED
>>568112597>take this and go to burn aliveSAAAAAR
>>568112597What happened to this guy's starfield memes?Remember starfield chan lol, someone repost them.
>>568112597He could have picked a way better example of a generic help the NCR quest because that one is epic
It's weird just how much cut content they just left in Fallout London. There is no key for this circuit breaker and truthfully there never will be. You know how these things go, you make something out of passion and the second it's out that all deflates and you never want anything to do with it again.But it just got me thinking, we could've seen cut content like this all over 76. They were close to shutting down the servers in 2021 and that just would've been it. All their plans for stuff to add later down the road never would've come to be. We would've never seen into Vault 63 for instance, that just would've been a mystery forever.Hell even in the current game, there's a lot of blatantly unfinished content which we'll just never get an answer for. >All those voting booths and the Whitesprings presidential scanners, the squirrel badges>the Pitt free roam and lost third mission>the fact that Skyline Valley was made to be a loop with winding roads everywhere solely for a feature that's been removed seems strange now.>The Burning Springs just feels off, yes we'll get a map expansion later, but the lack of interiors even in Athens just feels like something went wrong in development>the goddamn Nuclear Winter lore implying that Appalachia completely falls apart in the future with firestorms brewing everywhere.You know I wonder if their financial troubles in 2021 is why they shut down Nuclear Winter when they did, they were just desperate to cut out any kind of unnecessary expenses.
Microsoft just needs to take the Fallout IP from Todd's grubby, little, manlet hands and give to Obsidian.
Building in this game is a ton of fun. I saw a secret Enclave mountain complex when I was doing my dailies the other day and it reminded me of that part in Fallout 2 where you discover that the secret entrance to Navarro is under an old gas station. It gave me the idea to make this. It's a WIP, but it's essentially a secret Enclave missile silo bunker hidden behind a keypad-locked door in the back of an inconspicuous rural shack out in the Mire that I'm using as a vendor/home for wandering travelers. I need to furnish it a bit more, I still haven't got the US flag plan but I plan to get it so I can put it here. Also the bottom level in my missile silo shelter isn't lit up yet, it has lights and power but I need to place conduits in a place where they don't look retarded. The bedroom wallpaper in the Enclave kit looks like it's made of the same lacquered wood that Richardson's office was made of.
>>568121035If Microsoft ask themselves>Hmm, do I want Fallout 4 megabux or do I want Pillars of Eternity autismbux? The answer is obvious. Even people that dickride FNV are more likely to play other Bethesda games than they are to play the kind of thing Obsidian otherwise make. FNV worked because it's basically a classic fallout lore mod for Fallout 3, and even then it underperformed at launch despite being vindicated by cult longevity.
THis is literally the first time in years this general is actually talking about the game and not just spamming blow up doll 3d blender tier "waifus"what the hell happened
>>568111909what the fuck does Fallout New Vegas have to do with being trans? Why do trannies try to infect everything with their sickness like some sort of STD?
>>568121948Microsoft could give permission to Obsidian to create a Fallout game. It's not like Fallout can't be made by both companies. And it looks like Obsidian is doing nothing, anyway. I'm pretty sure Avowed and The Outer Worlds 2 were both busts.
>>568122387Grow up, jeffrey chudstein.
>>568122637Yeah that would be a good idea
>>568122387Legion BVLLS making sissy profligates realise they want to be on the bottom
>>568122637>Let Obsidian make another Fallout>After the utter slop that was OW and OW2Why
>>568122279we talk about the games all the time tho
>>568119345bioshock font is throwing me for a loop
>>568122279/v/ fallout threads (of every game) being unusable shit may have driven some people here.
I have more than 200 hours in every Fallout game (except 1, 1 is 100 something hours), and I can safely say that Fallout 4 is the worst Fallout game excluding BoS. Everything it does well is done better in 76.
>>568127068cri 'bout it
>>568127068Why are NV transgirls like this?
>>568127068Can’t mod 76
Fallout 3 has the worst writing of any Fallout game
Fallout 3 is better than Fallout 4 in every single way including writing
Fallout 3:>Wow! Look at all the different environments! Pittsburgh ruins, foggy marshlands, desert ruins, a giant UFO! Well this game has it ALL!Fallout New Vegas:>Wow! Look at all the different environments! A casino filled with toxic gas, a secret government facility locked in a dome, a massive canyon filled with tribals, and even snowy mountains! Well this game has it ALL!Fallout 76:>Wow! Look at all the different environments! A blooming forest, a foggy swamp, an ash heap, desert ruins! Expeditions to the Pitt! Well this fame has it ALL!Fallout 4:>Commonwealth is literally just dilapidated buildings and flooded urban city centers>Glowing Sea has literally nothing in it, and it's like half the map>Best DLC is a rehash of Point Lookout>Haha remember Nuka-Cola?!At least Skyrim has like five or six holds that looked different. Oblivion had more terrain variety than 4.
>>568129915In every way except writing perhaps but the FO3 story makes zero sense whatsoever and neither do most of the subplotslike FO4, for all its flaws, at least has a coherent logic to what the protagonist is doing and why.FO4Take the evil paths for example.In FO4: you side with the Institute and successfully help them destroy their enemies, you have a plausible motivation to do this because your son, the original macguffin of the plot, is their leader.FO3: You destroy the Enclave because ??? but then poison the water supply anyway because ???, which btw is the plan of the AI president you just destroyed because ???, also you have to sacrifice yourself to poison the water, why this is preferable to just letting it fail and render the water undrinkable anyway... uh... ???
>>568132175Fallout 4's main quest is less coherent than 3. You're disingenuous or brown.
>>568132175>like FO4, for all its flaws, at least has a coherent logic to what the protagonist is doing and why.LOL.The second or third quest you get after you've watched your infant son get kidnapped, your wife get merked and the world get NUKED, involves scouring the wasteland finding settlements full of nobodies to save from raiders who, like the one-man-army power fantasy your player character is, just charges in with no prior preparation and wipes out the lot of them. Like when does your character go from scared pre-war vault dweller to Captain America?
>>568132573Feel free to explain why you think that.
>>568132632You don't have to help any settlements to finish the main quest. >like the one-man-army power fantasy your player character is, just charges in with no prior preparation and wipes out the lot of them.Gameplay issue, not writing, also typical of post-Oblivion Bethesda games in general
>>568127068>Everything it does well is done better in 76Nothing in 76 has the atmosphere the Capital Wasteland has.Even if we do get an expansion into it at some point, 76 is just much too light-hearted to accurately represent the despair 3 had.
>>568133109>You don't have to help any settlements to finish the main quest. For the Minutemen you do, and that's clearly what they were intending you to do given that the first main quest after leaving the vault has Codsworth telling you to go to Concord. >b-but you don't have to talk to C-Codsworth eitherAnd how many new players just ignore the very first town that occupies 90% of your FOV when you leave the vault for the very first time? You have to be a metagamer to ignore the very obvious visual signposting.
>>568133326> the despair 3 had.
>>568133563The purpose of which is to get you directions on what to do next (go to diamond city), which you get immediately. You do not need to participate in the Settlement system. You could just as easily make the argument that in FO3 you abruptly stop looking for your dad and start doing Wasteland survival experiments for Moira, only that's not actually part of the main quest at all.>For the Minutemen you doIn act 3After you find ShawnOnly if you want to help that particular factionWho's whole point is being a narrative vehicle for the settlement system
>>568130880What do they eat in Megaton?Because I know what they eat in Diamond CityCheckmate fucktard
>>568134445>The purpose of which is to get you directions on what to do next (go to diamond city), which you get immediately. The very first faction quest most players will get leads them straight back to Sanctuary after Concord, and most players will follow this questline because it's the closest available destination. You don't have to engage with it technically, but the game is set up in such a way where you're heavily encouraged to. It's definitely part of the main canon. >You could just as easily make the argument that in FO3 you abruptly stop looking for your dad and start doing Wasteland survival experiments for Moira, only that's not actually part of the main quest at all.>only that's not actually part of the main quest at allExactly, it's not a main quest. Faction quests are main quests in Fallout 4. The Minutemen are part of the main questline. Moira isn't a main quest, neither is she a faction leader.>In act 3Why do you defend a game you haven't played?https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/The_First_Step
>>568121035outer worlds 2 and avowed were flops anon. current obsidian sucks
>>568135818Who runs Diamond City's water supply? I know the answer, but I want you to tell me.
>>568136027What do they eat in Megaton?
New Vegas > FO2 > FO1 > Tactics > 3 = 76 >>>>>> FO4
>>568137486Answer the question.Who runs Diamond City's water supply?
>>568137887Your rushed out, unfinished slop will never be the best, tranny
I kind of wonder if the vault sequence isn't actually the best section for legitimate roleplaying in fallout 3.It's not deep or anything like that, but the short set of vignettes where little events play out and the npcs do react to dialogue and actions actually feels more in-line with Fallout than the rest of the game.3 once you get out of the vault is just shooting stuff and clicking through the most robotic dialogue imaginable. Very little of it ever feels like actual roleplay or 'crafting' a character.
>>568135827>You don't have to engage with it technically, but the game is set up in such a way where you're heavily encouraged to. It's definitely part of the main canon.Correct, much like you don't have to do any of the side quests in Megaton. The only narratively necessary thing to actually do is get the intel on your dad and get out, but most players won't do that and the game design encourages you to explore, but it remains that's nothing to do with how the main quest is written.No, it's not "canon" that the protag starts doing minutemen side quests when they get to Concord.>Exactly, it's not a main quest. Faction quests are main quests in Fallout 4. The Minutemen are part of the main questline. Moira isn't a main quest, neither is she a faction leader.All the more to how weak the writing in FO3 is, it does not even have factions or branching paths. Only your point isn't about role playing systems FO3 does not have, it's about the game being designed in such a way to encourage pausing the MQ to do option quests, which the average FO3 player will spend an extensive time doing as soon as they enter Megaton. >Why do you defend a game you haven't played?The MQ after Freedom Calls is Jewel of the Commonwealth Act 1 follows a very linear progression from Codsworth says go to Concord, you meet Preston and the rest, they go to Sanctuary, there Mama Murphy tells you to go to Diamond City, you meet Piper, Piper points you towards Nick, then the rest of the act is about finding Kellogg. The only scenario in which you have to do The First Step is if you want to support the Minutemen, and even in that scenario you can delay it until the last act of the game. Narratively it has nothing to do with finding Shaun, which, I remind you, your argument to begin with is that it's incoherent the game makes you pause that mission to do settlement quests for the Minutemen - as established, it doesn't.
>>5681337453 is a re-imagining of 1 and is desolate and eerieNV is a re-imagining of 2 and is hardly an apocalypse anymore. That's why I'm not a big fan of NV4 flat out doesn't have any direction, while 76 is a tug-of-war between the legacy pre-wastelanders content and the nu content. 76 had it where everything was pristine but no one's around, as if you woke up one day and you were the only person on earth which had a really interesting feel. Unfortunately that's ruined now by the new quirky unkillable unlikable npcs who bitch at you
>>568132175in Fallout 3, my first playthrough, Dad's death motivated me to take revenge against the Enclave. Because fuck them I love my dad and those fuckers will pay
>>568138229>clicking through the most robotic dialogue imaginable.
>>568138575Oh yeah, another thing, the dad in FO3 is motivated by getting this purifier working and giving DC a supply of clean water, he kills himself and destroys the purifier to... stop Colonel Autumn from getting this purifier working and giving DC a supply of clean water. Also somehow Autumn survives this suicide attack
>>568138575Same here. I don't know if 4 failed because you never really get to know Shaun before he gets taken or because I don't have a kid, but 3's story just felt so much more impactful for me
>>568139372Autumn surviving was indeed gay but it was cathartic to kill him later. But James didn't destroy the purifier, and he knew he couldn't stop them from taking it either, but he could give his child and the remaining scientists enough time to escape before being captured. That's why he tells you to run.
>>568138329>but it remains that's nothing to do with how the main quest is written.Except in 4 it has everything to do with how the MQ is written, because the side quests in 3 aren't part of the MQ; the faction questlines in 4 are. The boring as fuck Minutemen settlement quests are just as much a part of the MQ as any Brotherhood/Railroad/Institute quest, because they're a main faction. Moira isn't a main faction leader.>All the more to how weak the writing in FO3 is, it does not even have factions or branching paths. It does have the latter. You can choose to infect the purifier with FEV at the end and it will change things slightly. Broken Steel didn't do a good job at ramifying the consequences of your actions but it's DLC and a post-game was never intended. That just makes Fallout 4 look worse. The only elements that change in Fallout 4's faction endings are the nameless NPCs at checkpoints and the flag in Diamond City. There's some dialogue from select NPCs but the Commonwealth goes on as normal and no one cares. >The only scenario in which you have to do The First Step is if you want to support the Minutemen, and even in that scenario you can delay it until the last act of the gameYou technically can but it's not what they intended you to do. If you leave Preston and the gang at Sanctuary, they have no food or crops to survive off of, since you haven't planted any. They have no defenses, and everyone knows from the first quest that Preston can't take on five raiders without your help. Aside from that, the game literally gives you a quest marker to follow and incentivizes you to return to Sanctuary because it's the first time someone sounds like they might be able to help you save Shaun. And of course, the settlement mechanics were a huge part of F4's marketing, so players will want to build things in Sanctuary. They might've already made it a player home before Preston even shows up there.
There's no reason to deny Autumn the purifier. He's a bit heavy handed, but all he does is shoot some bitch I don't give a crap about. Dad should have just agreed to work with them? At least write a backstory like they killed mom or something to make me have a reason to hate them. Even then it's an RPG. Let me side with the enclave. This is why I play with true open world DC.
>>568140623>There's no reason to deny Autumn the purifier. There's many reasons why a paramilitary organization that aims to genocide the wasteland and its inhabitants shouldn't be given autonomy over the distribution of a valuable commodity like clean water.Whoever let the retards out of the pen has some explaining to do. I'm gonna go play Final Fantasy.
>>568140623You can technically side with them, by taking the poison from their ai president. Thats also another problem, i assume when they wrote autumn they realized his motivations aren't really selfish or evil, so they just made the AI stuck in the F2 era enclave to provide contrast probably.And even then siding with autumn against the AI sounds like a cool scenario.
>>568141029>There's many reasons why a paramilitary organization that aims to genocide the wasteland and its inhabitants shouldn't be given autonomy over the distribution of a valuable commodity like clean water.1) There isn't. Additionally Autumn and Eden are clearly at odds. In a fully realized Fallout 3 with good writing he'd be a rebel Enclave faction much like Lyon's BoS, with a more moderate agenda.2) The Enclave isn't portrayed negatively in any way before they shoot that bitch in the purifier.
>>568139372The whole concept of attempting to blow your own life's work up is hilarious even disregarding James killing himself to do so. Does James even know who the Enclave were?
>>568141029And the brotherhood of steel are...?
>>568141432The Brotherhood of Steel want to genocide wastelanders?
>>568141029>There's many reasons why a paramilitary organization that aims to genocide the wasteland and its inhabitants shouldn't be given autonomy over the distribution of a valuable commodity like clean water.Brotherhood of Steal niggers are delusional.
>>568140010Except your argument is the game interrupts your quest to find Shaun with Minutemen settlement quests. It objectively doesn't, you can of course do minutemen settlement quests if you want but the game gives you a narratively coherent linear path from concord to the Institute that you don't have to deviate from. By the time you actually have to engage with any of the faction questlines to advance the MQ the whole find Shaun plotline is already resolved.> You can choose to infect the purifier with FEV at the end and it will change things slightlyExcept that's not a branching path, you could just as well say Saints Row 3 has branching paths because at the very, very end after following the same questline every other playthrough will have you are given a choice of two endings. New Vegas or Fallout 4 have branching paths because what exactly the MQ even is and what you will be doing deviates based on the choices you make. This doesn't happen in FO3, any choice in the MQ immediately just leads to the same step on the path as the alternative choice would have, even the ending thanks to Broken Steel.> The only elements that change in Fallout 4's faction endings are the nameless NPCs at checkpoints and the flag in Diamond City.ExceptWhether the Institute existsWhether the Railroad existsWhether the Prydwen existsWhether the Minutemen are a large regional military or literally just Preston.Based on the choices you make you can wind up wiping out 1-3 in game hubs and/or creating another one at the Castle. The only choice you make in FO3 coming close to this level of scale is the ending to Broken Steel, where you choose whether or not to nuke the Citadel.>you leave Preston and the gang at Sanctuary, they have no food or crops to survive off of, since you haven't planted any. They have no defenses, and everyone knows from the first quest that Preston can't take on five raiders without your helpNot your problem.
>>568141418>The Enclave isn't portrayed negatively in any way before they shoot that bitch in the purifier.That's the very first quest they appear in, and from that point onwards, they:>capture deathclaws and sic 'em on the local population>set up outposts everywhere that attack you (and any wastelander) on sight>hunt down your fellow vault dwellers if you destroy the vault>even kidnap the old fuck from Megaton who won't stop ranting about the good old daysLMFAO.
The writers really expected the player to forget about the entire Vault sequence by the time you reached Vault 112. James and even Li piss their pants over you leaving the vault and there is zero options to tell them that you were being hunted by the Overseer.
>>568141029Except Autumn explicitly does not want to genocide the Wasteland, he wants to take it over and use controlling access to clean water as a tool to do so.This, btw, is literally the same thing the BoS are setting out to do. Only it's presented heroically when they do it.
>>568141847And all of that is a result of poor writing, just like James killing himself.
>>568142029Who actually runs the enclave, isn't it the AI president in control?
>>568141847none of that occurs before the PP sequence. Furthermore, all that shit's arbitrary.Fallout 3 can't even agree with itself on how the Enclave treats wastelanders because we get characters like Anna Holt who joins them because she's not retarded like James, or Stiggs in Broken Steel who was "nursed back to health" by them.
>>568142113The enclave are fighting each other. Eden has robots killing enclave soldiers to help you escape.
>>568142113good question.Notice how the Enclave still has a functioning chain of command even after both Eden and Autumn are gone. The writers didn't give a shit, they just wanted a bad guy organization.
>>568141936>Except Autumn explicitly does not want to genocide the Wasteland, he wants to take it over and use controlling access to clean water as a tool to do so.This is actually one aspect where Fallout 3 does fail, but not because of what you've mentioned (because you're wrong). Fallout 3 expects the player to have some prior knowledge of the Enclave's ambitions in Fallout 2 to know why they shouldn't have any control over a vital resource like clean water. The Enclave isn't just genocidal, but caste-based and prejudiced. Even wastelanders in their ranks like Anna Holt wouldn't be treated as well as their pure untainted stock. The society they wish to create, whether they want to eradicate wastelanders or not, is inherently racist and segregationist. And that's disregarding all of the other reasons why you shouldn't like the Enclave. They're willing to make their vice president a retard and sacrifice the last remnants of their untainted stock (vault dwellers) so they can have complete, uncontested control over the wasteland. Eden and Autumn hate the Brotherhood of Steel from the beginning even before any conflict between them erupts simply because Lyons controls the Pentagon.
The issue at hand is the question of whether James killing himself to prevent enclave control of the purifier is valid. There is no reason presented to the player at any point prior to instill a negative impression of the enclave. The shooting of that scientist is the only thing, and I'm prepared to overlook that. James killing himself and damaging the purifier doesn't seem like a proportional response. He never says anything about them. There are no diary or terminal entries about them. You're just supposed to accept them as the baddies. Cartoonish villains.
>>568142148>Fallout 3 can't even agree with itself on how the Enclave treats wastelanders because we get characters like Anna Holt who joins them because she's not retarded like James, or Stiggs in Broken Steel who was "nursed back to health" by them.Because Eden is a puppet and Autumn is a pragmatist who understands the potential of having the Project Purity scientists on his team. Did you play the game? How does this contradict anything from it?
>>568142773You say this while the hero faction of the game is also a caste based feudal aristocracy that depending on leadership varies from viewing wastelanders as hostile savages to ignorant barbarians and which 3 already sets up evolving into a hereditary monarchy via the Maxson dynasty Autumn’s whole plan is basically just do what the BoS are doing. Total mutant death, control the water, be the feudal overlords of the wasteland
>>568143389>You say this while the hero faction of the game is also a caste based feudal aristocracy that depending on leadership varies from viewing wastelanders as hostile savages to ignorant barbarians Lyons Brotherhood recruits wastelanders and treats them no differently to their own members. Just look at Paladin Kodiak. Surely there would be some level of prejudice from some in their ranks, but it's never apparent in Fallout 3.That's the reason why the outcasts split from Lyons. Lyons disobeyed the orders of the western elders.>Autumn’s whole plan is basically just do what the BoS are doing. Total mutant death, control the water, be the feudal overlords of the wasteland>Total mutant deathWait a second, you just told me Autumn doesn't want total mutant death? You just told me he wants to start the purifier and distribute the water? Now he's out for blood?Pick an argument. And no, the Brotherhood do not want "total mutant death". They want to kill super mutants and ghouls (in some cases), but only because they pose an actual threat to humanity. The "mutants" that the Enclave hates ARE the same humans that they were supposed to protect as the USgov.
>>568144695Except if we are supposed to extrapolate what we see about the Enclave in 2 the Enclave in 3 and Bethesda expects us to know this, why are you making an exception for the BoS? We also see the Enclave recruiting and we don’t see how they are regarded within the organisation, we can presume based on classic lore but in that scenario we’re also forced to presume classic lore applies to the BoS. Which based on the direction they take in 4 isn’t unfounded.> Wait a second, you just told me Autumn doesn't want total mutant death? He does want TMD, but TMD for him means the same thing it means to the BoS, all the super mutants and ghouls, not the ordinary wasteland serfs. This is what he explains in 3 with the whole Eden/Autumn subplot.> They want to kill super mutants and ghouls (in some casesIn all casesEven in 3 when Lyon’s runs the BoS and it’s uncharacteristically altruistic the ghouls in Underworld will tell you the BoS shoot at them on sight.
>>568124098Maybe they'll get lucky and create something good. As a consumer, we have nothing to lose.>>568124492Yeah, most women don't understand (or hate) male fantasies. That's why most popular IPs these days aren't even a shadow of themselves, but rather straight-up parodies.
>>568145331>We also see the Enclave recruitingWe see them recruit one or two people from the Project Purity team, and clearly only because they needed to repair the purifier after James sabotaged it. >They wanted information. About Doctor Li, about Project Purity. They want to know how to start it up, and why it wouldn't work.>I told them everything I could. About the G.E.C.K., about the damage caused by the explosions... All of it.So we're not meant to believe this a regular occurrence. We're meant to believe that these are anomalies because James didn't comply.>They wanted information. About Doctor Li, about Project Purity. They want to know how to start it up, and why it wouldn't work.Where does he say that he even wants to benefit wastelanders? Most of his dialogue is classic Enclave spiel about saving people, but he doesn't actually specify who he sees as people. He says things like "people of the Capital Wasteland" on Enclave radio, but so does Eden. He says that the wasteland will flock to him for "clean wah-tah", but what happens after that? Do they face the wall?>Which based on the direction they take in 4 isn’t unfounded.The Brotherhood in 4 don't want to kill wastelanders, they want to save them from an inhuman threat they see as a danger to both their own control over the East Coast and the Commonwealth's people. What the Enclave sees as a threat to humanity are the same humans they are supposed to protect.>Even in 3 when Lyon’s runs the BoS and it’s uncharacteristically altruistic the ghouls in Underworld will tell you the BoS shoot at them on sight.It's stated but we never see them do this. We can infer from the surrounding area and the state of downtown D.C. that they can't, because between Underworld and the Washington Monument is a massive trench filled with super mutants where their resources would be utilized more effectively.
>>568141868I remember watching a cut contents video that said that part was originally going to be peaceful and you had to figure things out for yourself. I think they went with the chaotic version in the base game because they ran out of time.
When is the Brotherhood kit coming back to 76? I have like 3000 spare atoms. I wanna make a Brotherhood alt and do Brotherhood stuff
>>568150316The Brotherhood of Steel are facists, and you're seriously telling on yourself right now…
I'm gonna say it: Fallout 3 and Fallout 4 have shit writing. It's literally written by the same guy.
>>568150509Fascists can be cool sometimes.
>>568148553Recruiting only competent individuals with skills you need is bad because...?>So we're not meant to believe this a regular occurrence....Only we also see Stiggs and he had nothing to do with PP.>Where does he say that he even wants to benefit wastelanders? The game spells this out several times. For one Autumn says>Once this facility is operational, the masses will flock to the Enclave for fresh water, protection, and a plan for the future.Eden says more. Eden, who wants to poison the water supply and kill everyone, explicitly spells out that Autumn does not want to do that and so he needs your help. It's with Eden that this would Autumn-rebel subplot is mainly exposited. For example>Ah, yes. Colonel Autumn. My trusted subordinate. I'm sure you've noticed that Colonel Autumn and I do not see eye-to-eye these days, figuratively speaking of course. The good Colonel and I disagree on how best to approach the problem of the Wasteland. He feels my methods are too extreme. He has allowed his humanity to cloud his objectivity. And now that he is publicly countermanding my orders, I can no longer rely on him. And so I turn to you. I hope that you are able to see the larger picture, to understand what's at stake. And of course, if you are successful, there is a place for you in the Enclave. Perhaps you could succeed the Colonel as my confidant.Eden straight up tells you Autumn has no intention of poisoning the water, when Autumn is talking about "the masses" he is in fact talking about the Wastelanders he intends to rule, not kill.>The Brotherhood in 4...And also conquer them, force them to hand over their crops at gunpoint, and kill anyone who gets in their way, then exterminate all ghouls, super mutants, and Synths. How is this even different to what Autumn was intending on doing?>that they can't, So the only reason the BoS don't already exterminate Underworld in 3 is for lack of opportunity. By 4 they almost certainly already have.
>>568143362>Did you play the game? How does this contradict anything from it?Did you explore any of the enclave camps and see them killing wastelanders? The most you actually get is Autumn on the radio telling townsfolk to stay out of their way, but of course they'll still shoot any NPCs they come across because soldiers are just hostile towards everyone.
>>568151041*burps on your facist dick*
>>568150939>It's literally written by the same guy.More people need to acknowledge that MacCready being a companion in 4 is Bethesda showing they feel absolutely no guilt or shame about writing Little Lamplight. They probably don't even understand why players didn't like the location or the characters in it.
>>568152353Emil even said he hates Bethesda fans and would stab them in the face if they approached him in public.
>>568151154>Recruiting only competent individuals with skills you need is bad because...?Well it's definitely bad if you're going to kill or subjugate everyone else for not joining you.>Only we also see Stiggs and he had nothing to do with PP.That's in Broken Steel when Eden has already been destroyed along with Raven Rock, Autumn is dead (player can spare him but he's never seen again), and the Capital contingent of the Enclave are literally on their last legs. We already established that they needed scientists and were willing to recruit Holt for this, it's not a stretch to assume that they needed engineers too, especially after their defeat in Raven Rock. >The game spells this out several times. For one Autumn says>>Once this facility is operational, the masses will flock to the Enclave for fresh water, protection, and a plan for the future.And I already mentioned this earlier.>>568148553>He says that the wasteland will flock to him for "clean wah-tah", but what happens after that? Do they face the wall?>Eden straight up tells you Autumn has no intention of poisoning the waterWe already know that. It's literally why him and Eden are at odds. You're not understanding my point. I'm asking what Autumn plans to do AFTER he activates the purifier. He might disagree with Eden's methods but not the outcome. Of course, it's never really explained in Fallout 3 what Autumn plans to do after the wasteland flocks to him. Does he bake them a cake? Take them out for dinner?1/2
>>568151154>>568154191>when Autumn is talking about "the masses" he is in fact talking about the Wastelanders he intends to rule, not kill.But Eden says the same thing on Enclave radio (and in person), like I said previously.>And why would I do that, when I am clearly the best hope for the people of the Wasteland?>We will match up the destitute, orphaned children of the Capital Wasteland with qualified, eligible adults.It's obviously just typical Enclave spiel about "helping people" (wiping them out). >And also conquer them, force them to hand over their crops at gunpoint,It's not actually authorized by the Brotherhood, it's something Teagan came up with which Maxson is oblivious to.>Player: Caps on the side, eh? Doesn't sound like official military business to me.>Player: Well, it is and it isn't. It's... complicated.As I recall, Danse also loses affinity when you kill or intimidate settlers, and gains affinity when you peacefully coerce them. >>568151154>and kill anyone who gets in their way, then exterminate all ghouls, super mutants, and Synths. How is this even different to what Autumn was intending on doing?Because they're not humans. The Enclave doesn't see wastelanders as humans but they are, they share the exact same physiology as an ordinary human, their genetics are just slightly mutated from living in a radioactive dump for decades. Super mutants, synths, and ghouls, are definitely not human. They have completely different physical anatomy to an ordinary human. They are also threats to humanity. In 1, 3, NV, 4, and 76, many of them attack humans on sight, and the few peaceful ones that don't suffer from schizophrenia (like the nightkin) or slowly become feral (like the ghouls). In EVERY single instance of the Enclave being in a Fallout game, they have attacked peaceful wastelanders, created fatal diseases (like the scorched plague) or created abominations (like the scorchbeasts). The Brotherhood didn't do any of that.2/2
>>568151154>>568154191>>568154282>So the only reason the BoS don't already exterminate Underworld in 3 is for lack of opportunity. By 4 they almost certainly already have.The BoS aren't perfect but there's a difference between killing ghouls who might attack you versus killing ordinary peaceful humans who are living out their lives not bothering anyone, and further turning the wasteland into a monster-infested shitpit.3/3 (Too long!)
>>568154425The Brotherhood never has attacked normal dudes. You are spreading propaganda here, in /fog/. Fuck off.
>>568154191>Well it's definitely bad if you're going to kill or subjugate everyone else for not joining you.That's literally what all factions do tho, the NCR are probably the most successful practitioners of that in Fallout history.>That's in Broken SteelWhich is part of Fallout 3Plus, the time between BS and the base game is exactly two weeks. For however long Stiggs has been with the Enclave it is long enough to have recovered from extreme radiation poisoning and attained a position of knowledge about their systems, clearly he has been around for longer than two weeks. Plus, he tells you he's choosing to serve the Enclave.> I'm asking what Autumn plans to do AFTER he activates the purifier. He might disagree with Eden's methods but not the outcome.Clearly not kill them because if that was the plan there would be no need to disagree with Eden.
>>568154141based emily
>>568154282Yeah and Eden also tries to recruit you into his exterminate all wastelanders plan and claims Autumn disagrees with it. 1 on 1 how would it serve Eden to lie about that, and how come it's consistent with what Autumn says himself.>It's not actually authorized by the Brotherhood, it's something Teagan came up with which Maxson is oblivious to.Yeah bruh, Maxson, the guy who orders his own soldiers executed for genetic impurity and praises you for ensuring all civilians are blown up with the Institute is totally going to have a problem with a little feudalism.>As I recall, Danse also loses affinity when you kill or intimidate settlers, and gains affinity when you peacefully coerce them.Yeah Danse is a pretty good guy that doesn't change the fact that the organisation he's working for is tyrannical as fuck.>Because they're not humans. And Fallout 3 makes it clear the whole Eden/Autumn subplot is entirely about the fact that Autumn does not want to kill the ordinary wastelanders. Plus, ghouls 100% objectively are human, they're just suffering from extreme radiation deformities.>many of them attack humans on sight,In every Fallout game you also consistently run into crazy non-deformed people that attack people on sight. In fact that's probably the most common type of enemy.
>>568154282>slowly become feral (like the ghouls)does this actually happen?
>>568154425>Be Brotherhood of Sieg Heil>See completely peaceful city of radiation burn victims>mfw
>>568155079>That's literally what all factions do tho, the NCR are probably the most successful practitioners of that in Fallout history.The NCR doesn't kill people who don't join them. They pressure them into conceding their power economically. This is what happens in Fallout 2 with Vault City, the NCR along with the Bishop crime family hires mercenaries to hassle them in order to get them to concede their own sovereignty and ask the NCR for protection, and then the NCR moves in and taxes them, but it's never based on their genetics. The NCR is more like a feudal-capitalist society than a fascist one. You can also see this with Primm in NV. The NCR created the problem with NCRCF being overrun and spilling out into the neighboring towns, and they refuse to solve the problem until the player comes along and does it for them. At that point they see an easy political victory and swoop in to claim the glory.>Which is part of Fallout 3The point wasn't that it's not part of Fallout 3. The point was that it's AFTER Autumn and Eden have already been defeated.>For however long Stiggs has been with the Enclave it is long enough to have recovered from extreme radiation poisoning and attained a position of knowledge about their systemsThe player recovers from extreme radiation poisoning in two weeks AND destroys Adams AFB along with multiple Enclave bases in that time. Clearly it's possible, even going by the DLC's own lore.>Clearly not kill them because if that was the plan there would be no need to disagree with Eden.Just because Autumn doesn't want to wipe them all out doesn't mean he doesn't want to do extremely evil, harmful things to them. Just look at what he does to Nathan from Megaton who won't stop singing their praises. His men attack wastelanders on sight at random Enclave checkpoints scattered across the wasteland. Just because he doesn't want to kill everyone doesn't mean he doesn't to kill or negatively affect the majority of people.
>>568157125> The NCR doesn't kill people who don't join themIf the NCR want what you’ve got they will subjugate you and if you resist they will kill you. Part of the background lore of NV isn’t just their wars against the BoS and the Khans, where at least they were arguably the aggressors, are also their wars against unassimilated tribals to the west. This is where General Oliver and Kimball built their careers, they are blatantly presented as an expansionist force and a pistache of the 19th century USA > The point was that it's AFTER Autumn and Eden have already been defeated.Literally two weeks ago. Am I supposed to believe Stiggs recovered from extreme radiation poisoning and attained familiarity with the systems of a giant air force base in under two weeks?> The player recovers from extreme radiation poisoning in two weeks AND destroys Adams AFB along with multiple Enclave bases in that time. Remember, you’re trying to argue 3 had good writing.> Just because Autumn doesn't want to wipe them all out doesn't mean he doesn't want to do extremely evil, harmful things to them. OkayWhat would he do that would be worse than what the BoS do? I don’t see many courts, civilian police institutions or democratic elections in BoS territory
>>568156204>Yeah and Eden also tries to recruit you into his exterminate all wastelanders plan and claims Autumn disagrees with it.Both of them solely need you for the code and after that they wouldn't mind disposing of you. Eden only uses you as a pawn in the power struggle between him and Autumn. >Yeah bruh, Maxson, the guy who orders his own soldiers executed for genetic impurity and praises you for ensuring all civilians are blown up with the Institute is totally going to have a problem with a little feudalism.>genetic impuritySynths aren't humans and the Brotherhood sees them as a threat to humanity on the East Coast, (which they totally are btw). The Brotherhood eliminating all the Institute scientists also isn't an act of racial bigotry, it's a military execution of hostile combatants.>Yeah Danse is a pretty good guy that doesn't change the fact that the organisation he's working for is tyrannical as fuck.Danse isn't a "guy", not from the Brotherhood's POV at least. I disagree with the Brotherhood's stance on synths too, but killing non-humans who could turn hostile at the drop of a hat is far more morally justifiable than killing humans because they've adapted to a wasteland that the Enclave themselves helped create (going by the 76 and the TV show).>And Fallout 3 makes it clear the whole Eden/Autumn subplot is entirely about the fact that Autumn does not want to kill the ordinary wastelanders. We can see Enclave troops killing ordinary wastelanders (and even vault dwellers) in random encounters all the time. Also he imprisons Nathan from Megaton, probably to use him in experiments, as they have done in the past with tribals in Fallout 2.1/2
>>567548342I think they work well as the shitty mass-produced alternative to the Wattz modelsModular, cheap, durable, pretty much everything that the government would get wet over
>>568156204>>568158765>Plus, ghouls 100% objectively are human, they're just suffering from extreme radiation deformities.They're not humans. They might've been humans at some point, but their biology has been completely altered. According to Bethesda lore, they don't need to eat or drink, and they can become feral after long periods of continued exposure to radiation. They're as different to humans as super mutants are.>In every Fallout game you also consistently run into crazy non-deformed people that attack people on sight. In fact that's probably the most common type of enemy.The racial factor plays into this a lot. In the very same game you can peacefully move ghouls into a luxury resort and they wipe out the inhabitants because they hate humans. Ghouls would also probably stink of decaying flesh and go feral on occasion when living in human communities, so it makes sense for humans to ostracize them (and for them to be seen as threats). It's a primal defense mechanism instilled in humans. It makes sense for the Brotherhood to hate ghouls.2/2
>bored of the usual gauss minigun, plasma caster, ect heavy weapons i use>make a cremator>it's a piece of shitIs it possible to make this thing reasonably useful?
>>568158850I dunno. The Wattz guns were used by the military. The Laser Rifles come out of military bases on the west coast which is why the Unity, BoS and Enclave have them. And the Wattz pistols you find are explicitly mentioned be underpowered civilian models. I guess AERs would have to be the super budget laser guns, while both were used by the military.
>>568158036>Part of the background lore of NV isn’t just their wars against the BoS and the Khans>arguably the aggressorsThe Khans were *definitely* the aggressors. Darion's Khans were raiding NCR caravans. >If the NCR want what you’ve got they will subjugate you and if you resist they will kill you. >are also their wars against unassimilated tribals to the westWars that were initiated because the tribals attacked NCR settlers.>President Tibbett is removed from office by a vote of no confidence following her "timid" response to the massacre of 38 NCR citizens at the hands of Mojave raiders - Fallout: New Vegas Official Game Guide>Literally two weeks ago. Am I supposed to believe Stiggs recovered from extreme radiation poisoningAs said before, the player does. >Remember, you’re trying to argue 3 had good writing.When did I say that 3 had good writing?I'm simply saying that going by the same game's lore, it's entirely possible for that to happen in two weeks. >What would he do that would be worse than what the BoS do? >I don’t see many courts, civilian police institutions or democratic elections in BoS territoryAt least they're not butchering ordinary people.
Tactics BoS > West Coast BoS > Lyons Pride > Maxson's Brotherhood >>>>> Appalachia Chapter
>>568158765>they're just using youTrueIrrelevant to my point that Autumn genuinely does have no intention of exterminating the wastelanders>Synths aren't humans and the Brotherhood sees them as a threat to humanity on the East Coast, (which they totally are btw)In absence of the Institute, why exactly are they a threat to humanity?>The Brotherhood eliminating all the Institute scientists also isn't an act of racial bigotry, it's a military execution of hostile combatants.Except they're not hostile combatants, they're scientists, some of them are even adolescents. Exactly 0% of the Institute's human population are combatants because they exclusively use synths for all of that. The BoS are the only faction in FO4 that is so evil the actively encouraged option is to kill them all, both the Railroad and the Minutemen are just focused on destroying the infrastructure and minimising casualties. >but killing non-humans who could turn hostile at the drop of a hat is far more morally justifiable than killing humans because they've adapted to a wasteland that the Enclave themselves helped createI agree.Only my point is James KHS to keep PP from Autumn and that is explicitly not Autumn's goal, in fact what's explained about his idea sounds barely any different to what the BoS wind up doing.>We can see Enclave troops killing ordinary wastelanders (and even vault dwellers) in random encounters all the time. Also he imprisons Nathan from Megaton, probably to use him in experiments, as they have done in the past with tribals in Fallout 2.Yeah, there's still a difference between killing people for some presumable tactical goal and wiping out all life as the goal itself.
>>568158851>They might've been humans at some point, but their biology has been completely altered.Taxonomically speaking ghouls cannot possibly be said to be a species of their own because they cannot reproduce. The only way ghouls can appear is from humans exposed to radiation while also possessing whatever poorly understood predisposition it is that enables ghoulification.Likewise, you have a point, Super Mutants are also objectively scientifically human and this is put beyond all doubt in 4 when Virgil proves it can be cured (the BoS have this guy murdered btw).>It makes sense for the Brotherhood to hate ghouls.Maybe it does but my point is based on what we see in the games the BoS don't actually have that much ideological differentiation from the Autumnclave.
>>568160242>Some of the Brotherhood scribes we captured further East didn't even know the name of their founder, Roger Maxson.
>>568160049>The Khans were *definitely* the aggressors. Darion's Khans were raiding NCR caravans.Who was in the Mojave first?The NCR are the most Jewish motherfuckers in Fallout. They will come into your land, expect to be subject to only their own laws and taxes, set up military bases and settlements, and then act like the victim when this is retaliated against and use it as an excuse to annex territory. Literally wasteland Israel.>When did I say that 3 had good writing?That is the whole origin of this argument thread. If you came in later without being aware of that then that's on you. >At least they're not butchering ordinary people.Unless they happen to have some laser guns or refuse to hand over their feudal tribute.
I'm going to go play xiv. Might reply later if I feel like. Ad victoriam, BoSbros.
>>568161153>Who was in the Mojave first?they were never really outside the mojave
>>568161307ToucheWho was in Vegas first I mean.
>>568161539well the khans were kicked out of Vegas, not by the NCR, but by House and the three families.
>>568161684The general greater Vegas area featured as the base game world in FNV and commonly referred to as the Mojave wasteland.To be specific and inclusive
>>568161901all right, all right. It was (iirc)>Some time after the Chosen One killed most of the New Khans at Vault 15 they moved southeast to the ruins of Las Vegas>there they became the Great Khans. Surviving one way or another, at one point learning how to make chems from the Followers>Eventually, they get kicked out of the ruins by House and his army and they move to Bitter Springs on the north side of Lake Mead>Eventually NCR moves into the area because of their interests in Hoover Dam and colonizing the region, Khans start attacking their civilians, caravans and soldiers ostensibly due to the long-running 'blood' feud between the Khans and Shady Sands>Eventually the NCR retaliates in what becomes the Bitter Springs Massacre >Khans retreat to the western side of the Las Vegas valley and take up residence in Red Rock Canyon
Is it copyright compliant for mods to use music from other fallout games in games that don't use that music?
>>568121035>and give to Obsidian.after back to back flops from Obsidian, no
When you get to Boulder city, you can choose to side with the Khans. There is no interaction with the Khans in the game prior to this quest. (Following the intended route, except maybe Anders)That's because New Vegas is an RPG.
>>568071903Atomic Beauty.
New vegas is oblivion with guns but more skill checks added to hide the fact that it has zero mechanical depth.
>>568163846define mechanical depth
>>568163734Skin mod?
It's always my luck that I get into games during dry seasons. I owned 76 since Wastelanders but I never really got into it until recently. Next season's scoreboard looks so very dry. I'm gonna keep playing but man, seeing people with Hellfire armor, Elite Riot Gear, etc, makes me jelly as fuck.
>>568165340I came back late last season (I just barely got to 100 for the remnants tesla paint and the rest of the dom pedro mods) from not playing since the scoreboard with the enclave space power armor and immediately got slapped with 2 shit seasons in a row.I'm still having fun but playing less and less.
>>568164613https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/9810
Why do certain multiplayer games (alright, I'll say it... XIV and Worlo) have such thriving mod communities meanwhile Fallout 76 has next to nothing? I mean it can't be the engine since Skyrim and Fallout 4 have tons of mods.
>>56816866976 has a reputation of "being bad" on the internet and most of 76s player base is on console
Fallout locations in non-Fallout IPs
>>568159283Go back in time before they nerfed it76 ain't kind to people who don't follow the meta, especially with the new infestations
>>568170434>edging in edge cityheh
enclave vs anime
>>568173758The Result.
>>568130880>Best DLC is a rehash of Point LookoutNuka World blows Far Harbour out of the water tho
The speech check with Three Dog is funny>Pass speech check>He directs you to Rivet City>GNR quest still available for later if the player so chooses>Fail speech check>you have to spend the next thee hours metro hopping from GNR to the Mall and running through the Museum of Science and Technology for the dish>doing it this way locks you out of Hamilton's Hideaway
>>568150316At some point, yeah.>>568170539They've hit everyone at least once.>Melee>Big guns>Bloodied commandos>anyone using specific legendary effects>TSE launchersits impressive how much they whack a mole, for some new weapons to pop up.Im just waiting for them to nerf cryo if theyallow icemens on guns
>>568122387Some bored Bethesda fanboys think that Todd hates New Vegas, so they do a little trolling in hopes to get favors from the future God-Emperor of Earth.
>>568129915Frankly, F4's story is not really a high bar, or even an obstacle, but I understand what you are saying, yeah.
>>568138765Emil is not a cause of this but a symptom.The fault lies in console gamers.Show them a first dialogue of Arcanum and they immediately lose the point.Show them a tamest monologue from Planescape and they start shitting themselves.Show them DF's Adventure Mode's dialogue sytem and they will kill themselves.>tldr: profligates need to learn how to read and think
Morrowind sold well on Xbox so i dont think its the fault of console goyim
>>568170539Fuck. It looks awesome.
Bethesda is STILL butthurt about obsidian/new vegas?What the fuck...
>>568190436Forgot pic
If Bethesda are running out of ideas for scoreboard rewards, then why won't they add the Midwestern Power Armor to 76?
I'm working on a Fallout 4 weapon mod pack and I'm trying to decide which system works best to handle modular iron sights at the workbench. What do you think works best, should I make iron sights a separate optics part that is manually installed, and basically allow weapons to have a No Sights option as well, that's easier to implement, or should I instead make them part of the receiver like pic related and hide them with transparent textures when there's an optic on, which is cleaner but forces all optics to list all possible texture swaps? Ignore the rainbow puke, that's a nifskope thing.
>>567459804heard there was new seasonAnything good?
>>568195497they've still got assets sitting in the files for years that they've done nothing with. most notably, the R-91, Sten, Hydraulospanner, and custom firing sounds for a Chinese Assault Rifle that go unused, despite there being multiple CAR skins for the Handmade.>>568198618I like the first option so it could be combined with a reflex sight if you choose to use one.
>>568202480Thanks for the tip anon. Yes, that's another thing, that way I can also put sights and optics into separate categories and allow for more variety like that. Not to mention that I can then reuse rail mounted sights on other weapons without having to have 50 million material swaps to hide the base iron sights on every possible receiver they can go on.I will have guaranteed clipping on some configurations that way though, like with the AR15 carry handle, but there's not much I can do about that, sometimes we have to concede a bit over engine limitations.
>>568152353>More people need to acknowledge that MacCready being a companion in 4 is Bethesda showing they feel absolutely no guilt or shame about writing Little Lamplight. >They probably don't even understand why players didn't like the location or the characters in it.What was wrong with it? I don't hang it in spots with other people who play fallout so I never heard anyone complain about lamplight. I also haven't gotten to see macCready in fallout 4 either so there is also that.
>>568161153To be fair, the Khans are raiders. The NCR being Jews is merely incidental.
>>568163416Obsidian may as well be given permission by Microsoft to create a Fallout game. The franchise is FUBAR, anyway.
>>568163846I like the skill checks. It gives the player more opportunity to roleplay in a personality-oriented way, rather than merely choosing what weapon to kill things with. The TES series is especially bad with that, as your only options (with anything else being an exception) in quests being play/pause. You have to RP by ignoring content.
>>568190554TK Mantis is a gigantic retard, it's rich for him to tell people to grow up after getting banned from the Bethesda discord. Avellone got shit on by programmers at BGS because he couldn't stay in his own lane.TK Mantis also tried to use his audience to bully his way into being a voice actor for a mod and when he didn't get his way tried to shut the mod down.
>>568190554>he doesnt like the show well yeah bethesda hates that
>>568190436People keep saying this with zero proofs
you betta get lost before I lose my cool and kick. yo. ass.
Damn, Kid in a Fridge seems cursed in my game. About 5 crashes getting close to Quincy. Then two freezes during the fight with Bullet. Fuck that quest.
>>568202480I could port that to fo4 if you got the texture files
>>568216608https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/85433
>>568161153>That is the whole origin of this argument thread. If you came in later without being aware of that then that's on you. Can you quote where I claimed that Fallout 3 had good writing? Someone said it had better writing than 4 and I agreed with them, but that doesn't mean it's well-written. It just means it's not as bad as the worst written Fallout game in the series. >Unless they happen to have some laser guns or refuse to hand over their feudal tribute.First off, why would you stockpile laser guns unless you were planning to use them in violent scenarios? Second, as we established before, Teagan isn't even operating under standard Brotherhood regs; he's deliberately acting off his own accord. >Who was in the Mojave first?Does it matter? I'm pretty sure the radscorpion population were chilling in the Mojave long before the NCR too.The Khans are aggressors that pillage and raid NCR caravans, attempt to cut off their trade routes, attack and kill innocent settlers, and are otherwise a PITA for everyone including the NCR. Wiping them out is a noble cause, and the fact that it's all but canon that every protagonist has done so is proof of that. 1/3
>>568160601>Taxonomically speaking ghouls cannot possibly be said to be a species of their own because they cannot reproduce This is bullshit. Neither can mules btw.>Maybe it does but my point is based on what we see in the games the BoS don't actually have that much ideological differentiation from the Autumnclave.The problem with the Enclave isn't that they want to eradicate super mutants and ghouls. While some can be amicable (like Marcus or Raul), the vast majority of them are susceptible to violent schizophrenia/radiation-induced chimpouts. Most understand that ghouls and super muties are crimes against nature, and putting them down is an act of mercy. As cruel as it may seem, they are man-made horrors.That being said, the Enclave doesn't just stop at killing those with a strong predisposition towards violence, they kill or marginalize those with mild genetic disparity. In other words, most of their citizens, but they don't see them as their citizens.Hell they even murder and experiment on their own pure-bred stock. The storied history of VT's involvement with the Enclave is testament to the fact that the Enclave don't mind killing or purposefully mutating their own pure-bred stock to serve their evil ends.2/3
>>568160471>Irrelevant to my point that Autumn genuinely does have no intention of exterminating the wastelandersOkay but where's the evidence that he has no intention of exterminating wastelanders? Because every Enclave leader speaks about saving people and shit.>In absence of the Institute, why exactly are they a threat to humanity?>Except they're not hostile combatants, they're scientists, some of them are even adolescents. Because like Dr. Li, many of them can go on to work for other factions. This is also how war criminals are treated irl btw, many former nazis were hunted, tried, prosecuted and sometimes executed years after the fact. This is also how the NCR treated the Enclave remnants. The BoS is simply dishing out wasteland justice from their POV. 3/3
>>568219561>This is bullshit. Neither can mules btw.Mules aren't a species either, they're a sterile hybrid. A species is a group of organisms that can breed fertile offspring within that group. Neither super mutants nor ghouls can possibly be a species scientifically speaking, they're not born, they can't reproduce, they're objectively just extremely mutated and deformed humans.>, they kill or marginalize those with mild genetic disparity. Except this is a the core of the argument.The plot of FO3 does not make sense because (for one) James' suicide gambit is entirely about keeping PP out of Autumn's hands. The game also spells out Autumn doesn't want to kill the Wastelanders. The game then has us give PP to the BoS, who also have supremacist aristocratic attitudes about wastelanders. It does not establish a coherent villain when you think about it for longer than a minute.
>>568219636>Okay but where's the evidence that he has no intention of exterminating wastelanders?1 on 1, Eden tells you what his evil master plan is (poison the water and kill all wastelanders), tries to recruit you to help him carry it out, and tells you Autumn declines to do it for him. Then you can convince Eden to blow himself up by reminding him people have feelings. Then poison the water anyway. Because FO3's story doesn't even try to make sense.>This is also how war criminals are treated irl btw, many former nazis were hunted, tried, prosecuted and sometimes executed years after the fact. Except they're not hunting down Institute members and putting them on trial. Maxson encourages nuking the entire city and ensuring all synths, men, women and children are trapped inside to die in it. It's more like if the allies ending WW2 by just exterminating the entire German population than targeting any particular people.
>>568221386>A species is a group of organisms that can breed fertile offspring within that groupA species is a group of animals and plants that share common characteristics. If we were going by a strict taxonomical definition like "can they breed?", we wouldn't be able to reasonably deduce that most extinct fossils did in fact belong to a unique species.>The game also spells out Autumn doesn't want to kill the WastelandersI keep asking but WHERE does he say this? Because you haven't actually provided any evidence of what he plans to do with the hordes of useless wastelanders that are totally reliant on his totally epic extremely awesome water purifier. The Enclave recruited two extremely unique wastelanders with talents that they needed to carry out their plans, that doesn't mean they plan to help useless fucks like the numerous wasteland beggars we see laying around. >The game then has us give PP to the BoS, who also have supremacist aristocratic attitudes about wastelanders. It does not establish a coherent villain when you think about it for longer than a minute.Where in Fallout 3 is it ever said that Lyons hates wastelanders?
>>568219495Alright, then that's where we disagree, because FO4's writing is at least internally consistent.>First off, why would you stockpile laser guns unless you were planning to use them in violent scenarios?1. Do you not see the hypocrisy here?2. The planet is crawling with lethal dangers and everyone walks around carrying weapons because everyone knows to be prepared for violent scenarios. >The Khans are aggressors that pillage and raid NCR caravans, attempt to cut off their trade routes, attack and kill innocent settlers, and are otherwise a PITA for everyone including the NCR.Even the Kings, a relatively benevolent and orderly faction, know that NCR settlers are just the vanguard of NCR occupation. If you let them have their way, soon enough NCR troops will be here to steal taxes and push their laws at gunpoint. If you retaliate they'll use that as a pretext to attack anyway. It's a zero win situation. Which goes back to the original point, it's standard practice for any faction to subjugate whatever they want and kill whoever gets in their way, and the NCR are the best at this in Fallout history. Are the khans dickheads? Yes. Were the NCR good bois who dindu nuffin? No, their presence in the mojave was transparently expansionist and victimhood just provides a useful excuse.
what the fuck is this wall of text spamyap somewhere else please
>>568221960>and tells you Autumn declines to do it for him. Just because Autumn doesn't want to infect the water with superAIDS doesn't mean he wants to help common wasteland litter like the bumbling retards you see begging for clean water outside cities either. Like what an absolute leap. You're arguing that Autumn wants to save the wasteland because he claims to want to do that, despite the fact Eden + literally everyone else also have the same exact spiel. Then you're arguing that he wants to save the wasteland because he doesn't want to kill them all either. Like what? He doesn't want to eliminate 99% of people, he wants to eliminate only 60% of them, but that's fine and dandy and makes him just like Lyons for some reason.>Except they're not hunting down Institute members and putting them on trial There are no courts in the wasteland. Everything is settled through violence. It's pragmatic.
>>568222774In-group fertility is literally the most foundation litmus of specieshood before anything else can be considered. This definition >A species is a group of animals and plants that share common characteristics.Is too vague to be usable because it just sets up a undefinable gradient. How many common characteristics do you need to be human? >I keep asking but WHERE does he say this?I already quoted Autumn and Eden on this subject. The answer, is not kill them. You already know this. You're now just grasping at straws trying to say even if he doesn't want to kill them surely he's up to no good anyway. Which is the problem with FO3's writing. Because if using a water purifier as a political tool to take over DC for an undemocratic government is evil, then so are the BoS. This is the problem with FO3's writing (one of them anyway), Emil put like 10 seconds of thought into why the Enclave are evil and why the BoS are good, you're just supposed to see the bad guys with the black armour and the dreadful music versus the good guys with the silver armor and the heroic music >Where in Fallout 3 is it ever said that Lyons hates wastelanders?What happens to this caste-based feudal aristocracy when Lyons dies?
>>568223240>Do you not see the hypocrisy here?What a conundrum. LMAO.>You criticize people with laser weapons, yet you hoard laser weapons. I am very smart!If people knew how to use technology sensibly, there wouldn't be a need for the BoS. >everyone knows to be prepared for violent scenarios. And why do you need a stockpile of laser weapons for that purpose? Where would you even find that many laser weapons?The BoS aren't confiscating 9mms, they're confiscating highly advanced technology that no wastelander should ever reasonably have. >Even the Kings, a relatively benevolent and orderly faction, know that NCR settlers are just the vanguard of NCR occupation.The King and his goons are passively hostile towards any outsiders, not just NCR settlers. The King doesn't attack them though because he knows it will give the NCR a reason to move against him. Pacer's goons attack NCR settlers and overcharge them for water and protection without the King's knowledge or consent. In short, you're right, but that doesn't make the Khans justified. >Were the NCR good bois who dindu nuffin? No, their presence in the mojave was transparently expansionist and victimhood just provides a useful excuse.You have to understand that the Mojave before the NCR showed up was a wartorn shithole. The Strip before House was home to warring tribals, some of whom were cannibals like the White Gloves for example. House and the NCR (and even the Legion presence in some regards) are literally the only reasons why the Mojave is as a safe as it is in NV, even if it really isn't. >Player: Okay, what are you supposed to be doing?>Hanlon: To protect against all forms of tyranny. As simple as that. Thirty, forty years ago, the wasteland was full of despots. Slavers. Raiders. Tough-talking hoodlums with gangs who liked to kick around towns. Back then the NCR military was still young. Couldn't cover much ground. It took groups like ours to tip the balance back to the good guys.
>>568223291I’m not arguing Autumn is actually benevolent, I’m arguing the game gives you zero reason for why James kills himself and bricks the purifier. Does James even know who the Enclave are? We never find out. What do the Enclave want with it? This is where the writing really eats its own tail because we later find out Autumn’s master plan is… get the purifier working as intended and use control of water to take over the area. Which is literally the same thing we are helping the BoS do. But somehow it was necessary for James to KHS to prevent Autumn doing that.Also Autumn somehow survives this organ melting radiation with plot armor.FO4, for all its faults, is never this level of retarded > There are no courts in the wastelandI was shit talking the NCR earlier but to be fair to the NCR they do at least build courts, schools and hospitals. Something the BoS has never done in like two centuries of existence.
>>568224296>In-group fertility is literally the most foundation litmus of specieshood before anything else can be considered>We should only accept the taxonomical definition of it because it fits my argument, even if it only fits 50% of cases and can't be applied paleontologically What a midwit take.>I already quoted Autumn and Eden on this subject. The answer, is not kill them.Not kill WHO?If the modified FEV is meant to wipe out the entire mutated wasteland population, and Autumn only wants to kill half of it, that makes him as good as Lyons in your opinion? Sounds great to me. Autumn doesn't want to kill EVERYONE, he just wants to kill MOST people. But that's fine right?! Just like the good old Bruthahood of Steal I know! What game are we playing again?>Because if using a water purifier as a political tool to take over DC for an undemocratic government is evil, then so are the BoSExcept it's never treated as a political tool by Lyons, more an act of genuine altruism. Sure this leads to positive political outcomes for his faction, but Lyons runs a distribution center that distributes clean water to surrounding settlements without imposing Brotherhood control on them. It's different to how Maxson does things in 4, where it's mostly political. When Project Purity first started, Lyons offered protection and funding for the project in a time where the Brotherhood was the only organized power in the CW. For 19 years, Project Purity laid dormant, the project collapsed. Lyons never even assisted Project Purity until the Enclave had already took the purifier, and he didn't do jack shit about it until they kidnapped the player character. It never even crossed his mind until the last second where Dr. Li and Sarah have the convince him to even move troops in.>What happens to this caste-based feudal aristocracy when Lyons dies?Just because the BoS is run like a monarchy doesn't make them racist. Massive leaps being made here.
>>568225067It’s a laser gun, it is situationally somewhat more effective than a ballistic gun. The BoS will still mug you for it. Plus, there aren’t many factions in Fallout that use technology more irresponsibly than the BoS. They are singularly interested in hoarding a monopoly on advanced weapons which they exclusively use for violence. They use weapons of mass destruction at whim. Their express purpose is to hamper any development of the wasteland. Mr. House was 100% correct about them and the impossibility of their coexistence with a resurgent Vegas.> You have to understand that the Mojave before the NCR showed up was a wartorn shithole. The Strip before House was home to warring tribals, someVegas before House showed up was a war torn shithole, and the only part that still isn’t a war torn shithole is the part Mr. House controls and it’s immediate orbit.The NCR didn’t bring peace to the region, they brought more war and they barely control the areas they have. Outer Vegas is more run by the fiends than by the NCR. They inadvertently created a completely new raider gang wholesale via the Powder Gangers. They completely fail at stopping the Legion or even random 2 bit raider gangs like the Vipers or the Jackals from terrorising the southern and eastern parts of the map. The only places on FNV where you’ll find any order or security are not the places controlled by the NCR. Their very limited sphere of influence is still lawless wasteland Even the Boomers or the Kings or the Jacobstown mutants do a better job policing their turf
>>568225268>I’m not arguing Autumn is actually benevolent, I’m arguing the game gives you zero reason for why James kills himself and bricks the purifier. Genuine question: if you built a super duper water purifier to save an entire region suffering from dehydration in the aftermath of total nuclear devastation, and some hoity toity Louisianan man came flying in on an attack helicopter threatening to kill you if you didn't hand over your project to his organization (of which tried to murder the entire region that they were previously headquartered in), would you do it?Because at that point, James didn't have any idea what Autumn even planned to do with it. It's not like Autumn monologued at him for an hour beforehand. He must've not peeked too far ahead in the script notes. Our PC knows that Autumn doesn't want to kill EVERYONE like Eden does (again that doesn't mean he doesn't want to kill MOST of the population), but James certainly didn't at that point in time.>Something the BoS has never done in like two centuries of existence.The BoS in New Vegas has a school.
>>568226334Okay, if actual taxonomy is for midwits then feel free to share your totally legit definition of the human species you definitely didn’t just make up on the spot to serve your argument. > he just wants to kill MOST people.Source?> Just because the BoS is run like a monarchy doesn't make them racist. Massive leaps being made here.But they are racist (if that word is even applicable to prejudice based on radioactive mutations), they just have a slightly more inclusive definition of how many mutations are acceptable. My point, is that if your entire argument is contingent on Lyon’s leadership, I shouldn’t need to point out Lyon’s is a geriatric old man.Plus, James doesn’t even have any of this information snyway.
Is this just one dude arguing with himself?
>>568227208Yes, handing over the purifier in that exact scenario would be a far more rational decision than dramatically killing myself + everyone else and destroying the purifier with lethal radiation. > The BoS in New Vegas has a school.The BoS in NV is also a completely closed ethnoreligion. That’s not a humanitarian school.
>>568226684>It’s a laser gun, it is situationally somewhat more effective than a ballistic gun. The BoS will still mug you for it. Anyone who owns a laser weapon 200 years after a nuclear war likely has knowledge on how to service and maintain it. That knowledge is what should be kept safe, not the weapons themselves. MF cells utilize highly efficient energy storage that can be used to build improvized explosives. >Their express purpose is to hamper any development of the wasteland. The foundational idea behind the Brotherhood is that people don't deserve autonomy over dangerous technologies because they will inevitably use it for morally incomprehensible things, like the FEV experiments at Mariposa for instance. This ideological perspective that pervades every facet of Brotherhood ideology has been validated time and time again, most obviously through the Great War and the state of the Divide in Lonesome Road. >Vegas before House showed up was a war torn shithole, and the only part that still isn’t a war torn shithole is the part Mr. House controls and it’s immediate orbit.Exactly why the NCR is justified in saying that they're bringing order to the Mojave. House is isolated to his own economic zone in Vegas, the rest of the Mojave is left undefended.>The NCR didn’t bring peace to the region, they brought more war and they barely control the areas they haveThey simply heightened the scale of violence. The Mojave's battles before they showed up were mainly localized and one-sided (raiders killing settlers). That being said, the settlers in the Mojave are still safer under any of the main factions, including the NCR, than under total anarchy where raider gangs like the Fiends can multiply and expand without consequence.
>>568230105*improvised
>>568227502probably
>>568227742>The BoS in NV is also a completely closed ethnoreligion. That’s not a humanitarian school.Given that this seems to be the norm within Brotherhood territories, you could reasonably extrapolate the presence of a school in NV's hidden valley bunker to mean that Lyons/Maxson's chapter would also have schools for the kids they recruit, and we know they do thanks to the existence of Kodiak and child squires from Fallout 4. If you were smarter, you would criticize Fallout 3 for not showing us this, but instead you're intent on dying on this hill of:>Why shouldn't I just hand over my humanitarian aid machine to Hitler II?!
Not many player home mods to choose from in 4.
>>568230105Okay so the BoS is "keeping people safe" by killing everyone that is too educated in case they use their knowledge of engineering and chemistry to build IEDs. >This ideological perspective that pervades every facet of Brotherhood ideology has been validated time and time again, most obviously through the Great War and the state of the Divide in Lonesome Road.The Brotherhood's fanatical ideology is response for more active, deliberate use of WMD's than any other faction in the game, besides the Enclave. They go to war with the NCR and attempt to use orbital artillery against them, they use nuclear weapons against the Enclave, they use nuclear weapons against the Institute. Given the Enclave's destruction they are the single biggest hazard for another apocalyptic war. >Exactly why the NCR is justified in saying that they're bringing order to the Mojave. House is isolated to his own economic zone in Vegas, the rest of the Mojave is left undefended.House is isolated to his zone because he needs the platinum macguffin and doesn't want to start a war with the NCR occupying the place (ineffectively). The House ending to NV is the whole region becomes Strip jurisdiction, with some isolated exceptions like the Boomers.>They simply heightened the scale of violence.Precisely my point, the NCR didn't bring peace, they just multiplied the conflicts going on.
>>568231615Okay so BoS totally does build schools, hospitals and courts we just never see them or hear about them but they're definite there because I headcanoned it 10/10 argument
>>568232962>Okay so the BoS is "keeping people safe" by killing everyone that is too educated in case they use their knowledge of engineering and chemistry to build IEDs. If they use that knowledge in a manner that disobeys the Codex, then yeah. >They go to war with the NCR and attempt to use orbital artillery against themThey had no idea what Archimedes even was.>Veronica: We unlocked the secret of HELIOS one.>McNamara: What? Wonderful news!>Veronica: No, it's not. Archimedes II is an orbital laser. Effective only outdoors in a limited radius and requiring a long recharge.>McNamara: In the hands of the enemy->Veronica: They'd be marginally more effective. We lost most of the chapter defending glorified artillery.>McNamara: We couldn't have known. We fought for what we believed in.>Veronica: And nearly died for it. Tomorrow you'd do it all over again, having learned nothing. >McNamara: Are you trying to shame me?>they use nuclear weapons against the InstituteBecause Fallout 4 is retarded and contradicts itself. They had to have all three factions share the same ending to cut corners. In FNV, disabling the nukes in the Divide grants you Brotherhood fame, regardless of whether or not they're allied with the NCR, because the Brotherhood don't condone the use of nuclear weapons.>House is isolated to his zone because he needs the platinum macguffin and doesn't want to start a war with the NCR occupying the place (ineffectively)It has less to do with the NCR and more to do with the fact he can't establish his power over the Mojave (or even maintain power over the Strip) without his Mark II army. If you complete the Independent ending without upgrading the securitrons or activating his army, the Mojave is left in chaos regardless, and the Strip plunges into chaos as Freesiders migrate there.
>>568233164If classrooms and schools are a component of everyday Brotherhood society (as we see they are in New Vegas), why would Lyons or Maxson get rid of them? We see children in their chapter.
>>568233164Why would the BOS, a paramilitaristic society, build any of that gay shit? Their purpose is combat-oriented.
>>568181918PCjeet projection.
>>568236690>If they use that knowledge in a manner that disobeys the Codex, then yeah.Examples of disobeying the codexCarrying energy weaponsSelling energy weaponsKnowing too much about science or engineeringHarvesting solar energy>They had no idea what Archimedes even was.Elijah knew exactly what Archimedes was and the first thing he does after he goes AWOL is search for other WMDs he can use against the NCR. Culminating in finding the Sierra Madre fog that he intends to use to wipe out all human life in California. This is the problem with BoS cells being completely rigid dictatorships, they are entirely subject to the whims of whatever the elder wants. They are not a reliable safeguard against abuses of technology they are a vehicle for abuses of technology by heavily armed dictatorships. > because the Brotherhood don't condone the use of nuclear weaponExcept they also use nuclear weapons in 3. They nuke the air craft base and the whole point of Liberty Prime is that the robot hurls atomic weapons like footballs. > without his Mark II army.Hence the platinum macguffin >>568237064Yet we don't see any schools>>568237154Yeah and that's why they gotta go
Does anyone have the AE version of Screen Archers Menu? The one on the nexus isn't the latest version and apparently you need to join their discord now to get it.
>>568237154>>568233164>schools>hospitals>courtsThis is why the Midwestern Brotherhood are great. We see them actively make an attempt to reintroduce concepts like these to wider society. In Fallout 3, it made sense why we don't see these things; the Brotherhood is fighting a war on two fronts against two dangerous adversaries, the CW is engaged in constant war, and there's no central state or jurisdiction with enough resources or influence to establish institutions like that. In Broken Steel, Lyons tells us verbatim that he doesn't think "we'll be referring to it as the wasteland anymore", because Project Purity was the first step in an effort to actively rebuild. In Fallout 4, we see Maxson's Brotherhood, and apart from the Prydwen, they're still as primitive as the Brotherhood was in FO1. The Midwestern Brotherhood were actually successful in creating a post-Brotherhood, functional wasteland society where the Brotherhood's legacy lingers on as people become more cautious and sensible with technology, but Bethesda refuses to even acknowledge it as canon, likely because they want to keep things a crappy wasteland sandbox with scrap huts.Taken from the endings of Tactics:>>courts/law>The region sees new laws established to ease humanity back into civilized life, laws that are strictly enforced by the combined patrols of Brotherhood soldiers and pacification robots.>>schools>New settlements spring up as land becomes fertile once again, with places of learning becoming the hubs of the fledgling civilization. >>clean water>Technology is slowly re-introduced into the land; irrigation systems are established bringing water to the barren soils for the first time in decades.For healthcare/hospitals, it's not mentioned in the endings IIRC, but it's mentioned earlier on in the game that the Midwestern BoS uses healthcare to incentivize tribals to join them, so clearly they have some level of decent healthcare.
Fallout is a half baked setting, even at its peak(New Vegas) and it's currently owned by an ontologically evil (((publicly traded))) company which employs incompetent millennials and indians. This franchise is dead.
>Fallout Neo Vaginas>"peak"KEK
the ESL trannies are awake, everyone act natural (they can't)
>>568241193Fallout Neo Vaginas is peak. You're just going to have to try and cope with that fact.
>>568240494Fallout is as strong as its ever been. You can try to argue with that fact, but it will be fruitless. People will start calling you Dr. Fruitless due to your tendency to fight facts.
The only thing Fallout 4 is good at is larping as a woman with mods. There's no reason to play it when 1-76 exists. There's nothing it does better than any other game, excluding Brotherhood of Steel on the PS2 of course.
>>568243250You can't even look down at your boobs like in Skyrim or New Vegas.
AGP aside, not seeing my feet when I'm looting a corpse at my feet is immersion breaking.
I unironically enjoy this dialog interface.
You never hear the raiders ask to be your girlfriend if you play a female character, they call you a scared little bitch instead.
76 is a better RPG than 4. You're just some no name vault dweller who gets given the hard task of "rebuilding America" and finding the overseer, but soon you find out that the real mission was to secure Vault-Tec's secret missile silos, and then that leads to ending the scorched plague. You have faction questlines that run parallel to each other, so finding your missing baby is never a motivating factor for joining the main factions and they're totally isolated from your character's non-existent backstory. The perk card system is far more complex than the perk grid from 4, and you can swap builds at any time. The dialogue system gives you more options, a silent protagonist, the return of skill checks, etc.The map is larger and has a lot more to do. 76 wipes its ass with Fallout 4. I hope Bethesda Austin get to make Fallout 5 if Obsidian/inXile doesn't. Bethesda's main studio in Maryland can make TES VI during their bathroom breaks.
>>568151041some fascists can be hot too
>>568199161Eh, its been some shit seasons.>>568202480The auto axe was something that made it outta that, maybe the other stuff will too.>>568246502That's what your Curie looks like?
>>568248016intimidated by an actually attractive woman
>Shi finally got some contentWell, at least there’s some good news for Fallout.
It's kinda funny. It took Fallout 76 a few years to redeem itself but 11 years later Fuckup 4 is still the POS we know and hate.
>>568248209It would be, if it had a proper offline singleplayer mode.And no, I won't pay a fucking subscription to have the incredible privilege of playing a game singleplayer.
>>568248209>>568250025Your sametrannying is way too obvious faggot
>>568250025No matter how much Fallout 76 trannies cry they’ll never shake off the shame
sheeeeeeiii
In Fallout 76, what is a good 1-star mod for the Holy Fire for pure damage? I swapped off Vampire's for Two-shot a month ago, and it's good, but I was wondering if there was something better for it.
They call me 007.0 reasons to play me over any other Fallout game.0 cultural relevance in current year.7 pointless settlement cash grab DLCs.
>>568255327Literal worse s.t.a.l.k.e.r
>>568255703Best coomer mods
I enjoy FO4
the main purpose of Fallout 76 is whaling the troons so Godout 4 chads get free stuff
Skyrim is better than Fallout 4, as a game and as a sex game
>>568257971And NV and Morrowind are better than both of them.
>>568258558NV sex mods are garbage.That whole Oblivion/3/NV era of sex mods is so cursed even if it had to walk so Skyrim/4 could run.
>>568018434>you look like a cut of fuckable meat, are you?
Making some backgrounds for my animation
>0 cultural relevance in current year.
>>568246502It's too limiting. You can tell the devs struggled with its clunky design.
The worst thing about a voiced protagonist is how it limits what your character can look like.
>>568255327that escalated quickly
>trans vegas is second least poplar falloutsisters, what went so wrong?
>>568262487Fallout 4 has more modernised gunplay compared to New Vegas. Also, New Vegas has greater emphasis on narrative elements, so it's not as easy to get in to, compared to the more fun-oriented looter shooter Fallout 4. You can only watch a good movie so much, however, you can jack off almost indefinitely.
>modernised
>>568263605Fallout 4 most importantly has actual exploration..I can't stress enough how much of a boring slog New Vegas gets after a while, there is simply nothing off the beaten path, unless you use that World of Pain mod, and even then those mod dungeons have nothing special
You load sixteen tons.
Whaddaya get?
>>568255664Furious if you're running all the onslaught perks.
You are telling me that companies used to release RPGs BACK TO BACK as if it was nothing?I actually cant comprehend this>t. zoomer
>>568271597>fallout 1 1997>fallout 2 1998holy mogged
>played NV recently>then started playing FO4I liked the gunplay of NV better. I like my main weapons to be shotguns and explosives and in NV you felt like a sorcerer using spells, throwing fireball missiles and stunning foes with "and stay back".
>>568275249
Love when I crash and get no Buffout log.
FACT: this was a lot more fun than sending some troon ghouls to space.
>>568275496Because the actual "gameplay" of NV's quest is genuine bottom of the barrel trashIt's always a tediously annoying fetch questThere is barely any big setpiece questsI mean look at Honest Hearts for instance, it's the most aggravating bullshit in the whole franchise
>>568275249New Vegas has better gameplay than 4, true. Especially modded.
>>568275749disregarding your bait, Honest Hearts is not nearly as bad as Lonesome Road.
>>568275379Guns are just a slop substitute to throwing magic missile and fireball. In FO4 you feel like a cheap Cawadoody character while in NV you felt like an evocation specialized wizard. And I don't remember the FO3 gunplay enough to compare.
>>568276874You’re a goddamn dumb fuck but okThe shooting in your precious game doesn’t even work properly without weapon mesh modsNot to mention throwables and explosivesOr even the yawn inducing walking speed so you need to mod in a whole ass sprint mechanicAll of that works as intended in vanilla F4 because it’s an actual shooter and not some clunky ass Oblivion with guns
>>568261738OH NO NO NO NO HAHAHAHAHAHA
Fallout 4 "gunplay" feels like shit, the writing is unbearable, the voice acting is grating, the animations look like shit, every texture looks like puke, and every model is ugly.
>>568278707This, but the two Oblivion clones
>>568271597And the fast release cadence back then made many publishers go bankrupt.
>>568277572Yeah but you cannot properly cosplay as the Texas Red in FO4 because Travis cannot play I got spurs that jingle, jangle, jingle.
>>568255327I ran into a radscorpion attack at a BoS checkpoint when I was playing earlier today. a deathskull launched itself 100 feet up into the air and then one-shotted me when it landed. never been styled on so hard before.
>>568275496I just wish there were more skill checks like that peppered throughout the game. I'm glad they brought some back for Far Harbor but it feels very fragmented in the grand scheme.
>>568232540You kind don't need a player home when every settlement can turn into one
>>568255782Stalker tries to be too realistic It's just ain't as fun
>>568286236Yeah, I know, I just hate settlement building. I'm stuck with Elianora slop.
sometimes fallout dolls are alright this one is from cds74
>>568286236I like settlement building, but I still end up installing player homes because for some reason Home Plate is the only player home with a workshop bench. You can't build on the Prydwen or in the Institute.
>>568288414I usually just live in Red Rocket like the big house at the centre of my shanty town plantation network.
>>568261536Are you making a fighting game?this looks great
Do you guys have a resource list of mods to avoid? I feel like I've installed something fucky cause my game has started to randomly crash a lot. Sometimes the crash log will give no mention of anything and my log reader will come up pretty much empty.
>>568292456Is your mod list too big? You can just list them here What game btw?How long were you playing? Older saves may crash more than newer ones
>>568293164Shit, sorry. Fallout 4. Modlist is pretty big yeah. My save was like 48 hours old, so I started a new save and i'm still crashing often. I can play for like 20 minutes to an hour and then i'll crash. Sometimes Buffout will make a log and sometimes my game just locks up for a second or two then closes with no log.
>>568293396I imagine you already have and know how to use either Buffout or Addictol to have access to the crash logsYou could try using Classic to see if it helps you reading them - sometimes it helps other times it doesn't A 2 days save shouldn't be having "too many scripts" problems I feel Does it crash anywhere after a bit or do you feel like it's x region of the game?
>>568294193Yeah I've been using Buffout and Classic. What's addictol? Maybe that could help me. Also the crashes seem totally random. I can never replicate the crash.
>>568286826agreed I'm a sucker for black lipstick and nails
>>568294302It's basically Buffout and a few others combined. Mostly preference Sounds like something is trying to load then and crashing because of it You could always do the worst thing possible - troubleshooting turning mods on and off and see which ones may be causing thisDid you try starting a new game and was the game still crashing in the new save?
>>568294710Yeah, new save about two hours old now. Crashed maybe 4 or 5 times during. A lot of these fixes that Addictol combines I don't have so maybe one of these will help? Honestly i'm worried it's my PC, but only Bethesda games crash for me, others don't so maybe not. Worse comes to worse i'll do the ol' disable half the load order trick. Issue is that the crash is random, never in the same spot. Thanks for your help regardless.
>>568190554Tk mantis and avellone are retards. the people who worship avellone give him a pass on so many of his mistakes. lonesome road is such trash, terrible writing and dialogue
Bethesda make Avellone and LR look like high art.
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>>568261536Looks cool anon. Keep it up!
We found out(Yes we did)We found out(She couldn't keep it hid)
>>568202480>>568203578Well shit. Putting irons and sights in separate part categories breaks aiming because the game engine aggregates the sight translations each of them applies to stay perfectly centered when aiming down sights. Eg.: if the iron sights apply a Z+1.5 translation and the scope applies a Z+2, with both in place you end up with a Z+3.5 when aiming down sights which goes completely off-center. Pic related, sighting stays perfectly centered on the target going from hip to ADS'ing with only one or the other, but with both in place, ADS'ing goes over the target it's supposed to aim at.It's a shame, but they all have to go into the Optics category and can only choose between one or the other, can't have both irons and sights at the same time.
>>568295591idk I hadnt heard this avellone guy before and he is pretty based, not fully based because he still make platitude to not hurt the feelings of the braindead fallout show watchers but still pretty based they tried to me too him also apparently and failed
>I'M A PICKLE MORTY>I'M PICKLE RICK!
Daring today, aren't we
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>>568292456Yeah, some mods are just unstable and randomly crash or give you an infinite loading screens. Old mods sometimes just refuse to work and then launch with no problems. Also there could be a bugfix script conflict or an incorrect version of some required mod and it will also crash the game.Try to activate a couple of mods at a time and check if your game is good. Yeah, it is time consuming, but it is still better than making 300+ modlist and then trying to find a culprit.
>replaying Fallout 3 after a decade of not paying attention to it>have a lot of fun with itWhat kind of black magic is that? It is not even heavily modded, only two perk mods and goodies.
>>568319318I think you just have awful taste.
>>568286236I am gonna be real here, I hate settlement mechanics and never do them. I just dump every piece of junk into Red Rocket's workshop for weapon/armor mods and put all workstations close to each other and that is it. If I wanted to decorate houses I would play Sims or something.
>>568319753I don't know, I just ignore the main quest and explore without turning on a radio.I guess, I am happy with simplicity of it, without constant crashes, settlement wrangling and stupid shit of Fallout 4. And I forgot everything about Fallout 3. I remember what, a stupid ending with "go inside and kill yourself" scene, an alien ship dlc with a cowboy, a "fuck you" door, and that is it.
>>568319753You say that like 3 isn't tied with 76 as the second best 3D Fallout game after NV, not that it means much.
>>568250025Not breaking mods with every major update could have helped Fallout 4.Old and plain GOG version is still a definite modding choice.
>>568322678>tfw haven't had to deal with Bethesda breaking shit because I'm on the VR version that will never be updated
>>568320936>without constant crashes, settlement wrangling and stupid shit of Fallout 4.>implying fagout 3 is somehow a way more stable and bugfree experience
Huh, my LOD is blue in FO4.
>>568327229i'm blue
>>568279658Financial mismanagement caused them to go bankrupt. Black Isle/Obsidian was almost never above water when it comes to money.
>>567460513CUTE!
>>568328086dabidi daba dai
What's a good female preset to slap on Piper?
>>568340086Atomic Beauty and Foxy Piper
>>568341668I know what you are.
>>568342126
>>568271597Good games in general were released in very close proximity to each other. Though, I'm guessing that's because games were cheaper to make.
>>568275496I like both. But, the troon ghouls were more interesting, and had more going on.
>spawn into game>see four players buying all the most useless junk at my vendor>check dailies>"buy items from or sell items to other players">ohLMFAOAlso these weeklies are completing themselves holy shit, I just got three survival syringes (3 out of 25 stimpaks or chems) and I only logged in half an hour ago.
>>568348216fallout?
>>568352942Fallout was made by a gay fat cunt.
>Fallout 76>anime>black dildoyup, it's gamin' time
6 days to go, and I'm on the second to last page of the scoreboard. I know I'm NGMI, but I tried at least. I need to seriously rethink my build.
All these years and he's still buck broken by Chadout 4.
>>568359057Fallout 4 is a fun game. Sure, it's an ultimately shallow experience, but still fun.
>>568359541It's only fun when it's the only one you've played. After you've played all the others it's laughably mediocre. Worse settlement mechanics and props than 76, less content than 76, worse RPG mechanics than 1-76, worse map than NV/76/3. It even fails when compared to Skyrim, Oblivion, or Morrowind.
>>568359908desu I don't like online games so 76 is a non-starter
>>568360118Fuck off, 76hater. I hope you get raped in the woods.
>>568348259any time its an alcohol based one, i have no problem.its the ones with specific creatures/junk that take time.>>568358407What build are you running?
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>>568360118thisit's not part of the discussion at all
>>568363489>What build are you running?XP maximization + Power Armor. I run Junkie's on my Dom Pedro with Berry Mentats. I need to also learn or find the Intelligence mod so I can add a +3 to it.
>>568367625Thats a lot of weight reduction perks, and are you only using the dom pedro?
>>568368634I collect every legendary I pick up to convert them to scrip, sell them at my own vendor, or scrap them for a chance of getting the effect mod
>>568369009Ah, the classic hoarding.but i was asking about the weapon you use, because stabilized only applies to big guns.and i don't recall the dom pedro being a big gun
>>568369346Oh that? I have a few gatling laser/plasmas in my stash that I frequently take with me. My build's not really cohesive yet, I don't really know much of what I'm doing except blowing shit up in power armor to get as much XP as possible. I'm level 190 so I should've really figured this out earlier, but oh well.
Well, let's turn on the juice and see what shakes loose.
>>568370293What does this do? Or What da dog doing? whatever gets me a proper answer.
>>568369889Its a long process, and you haven't unlocked all the legendary perk slots either.once you get all the perks, you can start fine tuning to get to a comfortable point.
>>568370429Third party fork of MO2 made by the Viva New Vegas guys.Thought I've give it a try.https://www.nexusmods.com/site/mods/874
>>568370553I see thank you very much anon.
>>568352942Yes. Fallout 4.
Do we like Piper?
Think my FO4 has a memory leak. I can play for around an hour but then crash. Fuck.
>>568369889>XP as possibleYou'll want to look into taking the carnivore or herbivore serum. I'm carnivoreso i farm Tasty Squirrel Stew (+25%XP/ 1hr) and Broiled Scorchbeast Brain (+8INT/ 1/2hr) to increase XP and store it in my cryo freezer. Can't remember what herbivores use.
>>568372812Hate news.
>>568377058It's actually "HATE NEWSPAPERS" so the game is actually more silly than your attempt at being silly.
>>568372812>>568377058>>568377474Do you hate Boobs?
>>568375420Cranberry Relish and Brain Bombs IIRC.
>>568377925she's a 4/10 at best
I shouldn't have sold my Unyielding stuff. The bonus to INT is what I need right now, damn.
>>568370507I know that my build won't ever be complete until I'm a much higher level, but I should really be getting a lot more XP by now, I think.I already maxxed out Legendary INT. While in a casual team, I have around 26-ish INT. With Berry Mentats, I have 31. I've been trying to find a Leader bobblehead but haven't had much luck.Dom Pedro has eaten up most of my bullion so I have to wait to get the Hellcat Internal Database for my power armor. I sold all my Unyielding stuff like a tard.Really, the only reason I'm even bothering to care about XP is so I can grind the repeatables. I'm level 80 on the scoreboard now and it ends in 5 days. I know I'm NGMI. I wanted that pipboy stand so bad. I bought the mannequin set with my atoms and I had to start getting rid of my mannequins to make way for the power armor frames because they share the same limit from some dogshit reason.
>>568382765*for
>>568375420Good advice actually. Think I'll look into doing this. I think I have some Scorchbeast stuff still in my stash from Scorched Earth events.
Is there a ScreenArcherMenu for AE yet?
>>568384297tfc 1
>I'm just a regular everyday normie motherfucker!I don't like 76, I much prefer all the others>I'm just a regular everyday normie motherfucker!I like Fallout 4 even if it's 3's shittier brother>I'm just a regular everyday normie motherfucker!I haven't played 1&2, old games are a bother>I'm just a regular everyday normie motherfucker!And I'm not a huge Obsidian fan
>Why yes, Fallout 4™ is my favourite. How could you tell?
>>568138013nta but uuhhhh he asked first
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