>flat damage editionhttps://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Flat_damage >3.28 Patch Notes https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-forum/patch-notes >Compiled links, tools and utilities https://pastebin.com/SHt8unCt [PoE 2] >Return of the Ancients https://pathofexile2.com/ancients >Ongoing 0.4 patch notes https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-forum/2212 0.5 Announcement: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkCu3V81N74 [Embed] 0.5 Teasers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsp5NFH5714 [Embed] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86MS6GHBAOg [Embed] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miL0Ms-VwGI [Embed] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MHQmQXcbTE [Embed] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0UcprSk8V8 [Embed] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2QZNDtJhoM [Embed] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIzyNUTiYCo [Embed] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfyoJYCRNMo [Embed] Previous thread: >>567718585
Poop notes?
3 monthsalmost 3 fucking months of Mirage
What is (YOU)r planned build this league?What is (YOU)r backup build when it gets gutted in a few hours?
>>567763563same as every leagueI will try to find the one build to clear all content with, then level 4-5 chars to 92 while not clearing all content once again
D4 is better than poo2
saved
dead gamedead thread
big stinky
...why the FUCK would they nerf Witchhunter? It's already barely used...
So now which currency we are jumping ship toAnnul orbs?
Blood Mage and Spirit Walker won bigly, melee (LMAO) nerfed again.
Ghost shroud dead...
>>567792668Truly baffling
>>567763563It was shield wall. I had no backup
>>567792668Was op in campaign
>>567793515>in campaignso the part that no one cares about and is over immediately?
>>567793127Chaos orbs, obviously
I'm intrigued by the Chronomancer changes, but not enough to actually play one on my first run
>>567793260it's almost comical how much they hate evasion builds now
Should I must do my shield wall titan that I planned on doing or act like a little bitch and choose something not nerfed?
>>567792668retard
>patch notes hit>it's all nerfs>again>interest plummetsDogshit trash skinnerbox
>>567794286>can't spam deadeye and turn your brain off to watch the flashy lights for 100 hours anymore>actually have to play the gameplaying the world's smallest violin for you rn
>it's all nerfs!!!!>look inside>tons of things got buffedwhy are you like this
Crossbow dead...
Doomchads won. Hopesissies lost. Jonathan fumbled AGAIN. It's over.
>>567793207>Blood Mage wonunaware retard
WEEATINGGOODTWISTERGAWDS
coc untouchedselfcast comet nerfedMARK IS RETARDED
>>567794594What happened to Deadeye?
>>567794981yeah idgi at all. surely they fucked up here
(You) will choke on my CoC comet *forever*. Mark and Jonathan finally bent the knee and agreed to make the game PoE 1. We won.
OH MY GOD CARNS ON THE LEDGEOH MY GOD HES ABOUT TO JUMP UNNERF SHIELD WALL JONATHAN UNNERF IT FUCK
>>567763563bleed ritualist idk whatever good build ideas people come up with
comparison is the thief of joy
>>567794168truly riveting commentary anon
who won
>The Recombinator has been disabled. The Omen of Recombination has been removed. Existing Omens of Recombination will be deleted upon logging in.SSF players in shambles
>>567763563i never played CoC comet so ig now is my time before mark finally gets it
>>567763563Incendiary Shot and Oil Grenade. Still alive, even though I wish Ignite Prolif was instant.
5% currently, to 2% regen
>>567792668Still one of the highest damage ascendancies and great screen pops, just shit defenses that might be solveable by going ES/EV or pure armor
YESSSSSSYESSSSSSSSSSSMORE NERFSKYS POOWUNNERS
Shield wall status?
Are totems good now? Ive never even used totems in poe1 either but this is the only interesting thing ive seen in the patchnotes.
>>567763563i was going to play chrono until i see this >The Inevitable Agony Skill granted by the Inevitability Notable Passive Skill has been reworked. It is no longer a Curse, and has a 2 second Cooldown. The Debuff is now a Life Loss effect instead of secondary hit damage, and the Debuff amount is now displayed on static health bars. The Debuff also now instantly Culls enemies when total Life Loss reaches Culling Strike Threshold. Now grants Debuffed targets lose life equal to 25% of Hit Damage dealt to them while Debuffed (previously 50%). Enemy Curse Effectiveness no longer applies to this Skill, meaning Unique Enemies have the same effectiveness as previously, while other Enemies have less. Debuff duration is now 12 seconds (previously 6-8.6 seconds). Quality now grants +0-0.5 Metres to initial cast radius (previously Curse zone erupts after 0-10% reduced delay). The Skill has also received new visual effects.tldr you cant scale it with curse effect the only way to scale it before and it got a 50% damage nerf, so chronomancer now has 0 ways from its ascendency to scale its nodes for damage
>>567795339cArn found suicided in a ditch
tranny game
where's the concoction buffs
>Bow and spear cuck damage increased including tamed beasts (not other companions though fuck pack tactician)>Mace got every single skill's damage nerfedL M A OMAO
>people think CoC wasn't touched>instant leech removed>>567795271>highest damagelollmao-4 nodes for your defenses, -2 for clear tax, leaves 2 for either cull (AAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA) or....no, wait, thats it. LMAO
Flail spotted???
>>567795347Yes, spell dodems very viable now.
>Planned to go LS/PS amazon into ritualist>No changes apart from no easy shocks from thunderstorm or gathering storm (still solvable)Nice.Might as well do some twisting through campaign
Snoobaegawds won. Jungcucks suicidal.
Boring notes
>Some non-amulet Delirium Uniques now drop with the Raven-Touched modifier allowing them to be instilledExcuse me
>The Blackflame Unique Ring no longer has Enemies Ignited by you take Chaos Damage instead of Fire Damage from Ignite. It now has Withered you inflict also increases Fire Damage taken, Ignite you Inflict deals Chaos Damage instead of Fire damage, and Withered does not expire on enemies Ignited by you. Additionally, it now has 80-100% increased Ignite Magnitude (previously 50%), and 60-75% reduced Ignite Duration on Enemies (previously 50%). Ignite Magnitude and Duration modifiers can be updated to the new values using a Divine Orb, other modifiers will remain unchanged.truly baffling, the entire nuance of the item is gone. Instead of the unique scaling path of increasing fire damage but also speccing into wither, you now just do what every other chaos dot skill does and just take chaos damage. What's the fucking point? Why not just play a chaos skill at this point?
>>567795476you can play CoC on literally anything else, retard. its just bloodmage that got blasted
>>567795531tubgun status?
>>567795347>>567795518what spell totems are there even to use?
>>567795625TUBBED
>>567795624And how do you sustain the 600 mana per second cost of Comet, dumbass? People ran it on Bloodmage because it COULD sustain it.
>>567795650lil gup... please...
>>567795502>>567795502>>567795502
>>567795704who said anything about comet you giganigger
Guys is it just me or is the new Ancestral Bond completely fucking busted? this is with 2 pieces of gear equipped and a quick unoptimized tree made in 20 minutes. You just get Giant's Blood, equip 2h+sceptre, stack +skill levels everywhere, summon the totems and they rape everything because they weren't balanced with no summoning or charge cost in mind.
>>567795251Isn't this a buff? 5% current to 8% over 4?
>>567795339it lost a tiny amount of scaling per 15 armorbut shields have 30% more armorprobably a nerf low level, buff high level
>>567763563husk of dreams flaskmaxxing. if it's nerfed I'll just go blasphemy temp chains+eternal rage tactician which is untouched by patch notes
>>567763563this is definitely a skip league
>patch notes>its 90% nerfs>best builds untouched>shit like WH got hit with nerfhammer because Sorcery Ward is almost as good as ESEat shit jonathan
>Whirling Assault buried>Shield skills nerfed>Mace skills nerfed>Life still in shamblesWarrior just keeps getting cucked to death
PoE 2 > D4 > D3 > PoE 1
>>567795787does she know
>>567763563Oil Barrage Abyssal Lich, secondarily wand+shield Smith using Fire Spell on Hit through Shield hits.
>>567795704time of need on Titan
>>567795872no one gives a fuck about warriors, faggot. put on the fucking dress and pick up your dilator
>>567795271>highest damage ascendancies and great screen pops,you can't have the high damage and screen pops and sorcery ward at the same time.sorc ward is 4 points. 40% damage against broken concentration is 4 points. Culling+Decimating is 4 points. The screen pop clear is 2 points and also unreliable at only 10%.
>>567795347if you like spark i guess. All the other spells are absolute dogshit without infusions
>>567795872>unironically playing melee in poo2you have only yourself to blame
>>567795476Just don't take Sorc Ward and use something other than arm/ev for defenses?>>567795620Great questions
>he is a jingakh
>>567795968read the patch notes, nigga
>>567795968lmao
rip my nigga shock conduction II
>>567795796if you get hit multiple times you get fucked
>>567795787SPELL totems
Jonathan is a jingakh. Sorry not sorry.
>>567796049>>567796049>>567796106>>567796106Oh fuck...
>>567795872Monk and Amazoness are the only "melee" classes allowed
is it another ed/c league again?
>>567795704Tecrod + Blood Magic
le sigh...guess it's another galvanic shards merc run...
>>567795236The middle ground between the slog of PoE 2 SSF and Path of Shopping where you're immediately awarded t15 viable set of gear just for knowing how to use a search function:only sell.The best way to play PoE 2 by far.
>>567796178its another twister league
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsHmCfonlfA
WHAT THE FUCK IS THE POINT OF LEECH RESISTANCE WHEN LEECH IS SO NERFED???
kinda sad how easily they gave up on foundational principles related to poe2
>>567795872Armour and Evasion buffs and the addition of ward means that life is a lot better nowAlso, Ghost Dance got gutted
>>567796151>The Ancestral Bond Keystone Passive Skill now causes placing totems to have no cost and not require consuming charges to place. It still causes totems to reserve 75 spirit each, and now doubles totem limit instead of removing it completely.Old Ancestral Bond:>Unlimited number of Summoned TotemsTotems reserve 75 Spirit eachWhere the fuck does it say Spell anywhere?
>>567795182Loom
>>567796278It's lowered!
>>567796249this is my plan. trade league and never buy
>>567795872whirling is still fine, its one of the only skills that actually works with tribal fury still
Im glad both leech and ES recharge are gutted, but this isn't an armor win since it affects both red and blue life.What's funny about this is they've buffed armor to the moon vs 0.1 and it's still going to suck ass.>1.15x armor from formula change>1.15x armor from 0.5 patch>ES -7% max from vile robes nerf + atziri's bullshit robes gutted>Warlord cuirass now about ~42% stronger compared to vile robe than in 0.1>Phys maxhit of an armour user will still be lower than an average juiced boss's attacks
>>567796265>don't ask your community for suggestions>they will demand 100 bing bing wahoos per hour and every map to be strandNO SHIT THAT'S WHAT WE WANT BALD FUCKING RETARD. THAT'S ALL ANYONE HAS EVER WANTED.
>melee nerfedwhat fucking notes are you reading?
lmao zaccie changed his profile on discord because people kept posting it here
>>567794897Looks like you're the unaware one, GGG missed one very obvious nerf that still enables some really fucked shenanigans.
Apologize to Zaccie now. Beg to suck his dick and eat his shit. Now.
>Spell levels untouchedThey really insist on this terrible gimmick?
>>567796443>>Phys maxhit of an armour user will still be lower than an average juiced boss's attacksYou shouldn't be able to live through boss one shots
>The Recombinator has been disabledoh no no no no pffffthaha hahahahahahahaha lmaoooo
>>567796375retard
What are your favorite streamers saying?
why not just add a crafting bench lol
>>567796278I mean it's still good to have in the game. Leech may have been nerfed but if there's any chance you could get back to the broken state it was in before where it would literally just top up your life constantly and near-instantly while you fight, we nip that in the bud.
>>567796449the problem with saying Chris is wrong is that PoE 1 has never been 100 bing bing wahoos where every map is strand (at least up until the last league which flopped heavy) and yet you're still hereSo what did he do right?
>>567796531no one cares about your tradecuck 2k divine "league starter" damage on tuesday trash build
>>567796545I would do that scene to get Hrishi back in place of Zaccie.
>>567796619they watched 1 gdc talk and it isn't dyagenetic
>>567796443>armor is still going to suck assIt was the best defensive layer last patch and will be even better now. You are a genuine brainlet if you think armor is bad. Armor has been insane since they added armor to ele. Cloak of flame/lightning coil + goregirdle makes you invincible
>>567796278It looks like they really want to force you to take leech nodes on the tree or get leech affixes, so it counter those
That's it, I'm going Mana-whore Amazon with the shitty heal unique and *zmeri Brew
>>567796619they did add one to poo1. go back there, poowunner
>>567796619That's antisemitic.
>>567796619I'm guessting their theory is that by separating all these crafting mechanics and orbs out instead of having a dedicated bench with a long list means that new players will have a discovery period with these mechanics slowly instead of being inundated with options upfront.
spoiler: just because there was a 3 week delay doesnt mean they wont still be updating the patch notes up until launch day
>>567796750>Cloak of flame/lightning coil um...sister...those are not armor...
>>567796686One super cheap unique, but ok stay malding.
what would be the fucking point of a poe 1 style crafting bench? have any of you retards ever actually crafted gear? the bench is the last important part of poe 1 crafting
>ev+es nerfed>es recharge nerfed (nobody cares lmao)>armour untouched (it's still dogshit)>ev untouched (it's still dogshit)so everyone running ES this league?
I don't get how BM is nerfedIs it because fast metabolism and atziri's acuity are nerfed?
when's the next d4/poe1 league this poo2 shit is gonna be trash fr
>>567796953Maybe so we don't have FIVE QUADRILLION DIFFERENT FUCKING CURRENCIES like Jonathan has added in the last 6 months.
>>567796872>he doesn't knowRetard. They convert phys dmg to ele, and then you stack armor to ele + use goregirdle to have 2x that amor to ele amount. You can easily get over 100% armor applies to ele, then double that ele armor with the belt. Armor stacking can make you take basically 0 damage, even from chaos (since armor to chaos exists as a helmet mod). Armor is slept on and you guys are brainlets.
>>567796972uh oh ZDF melty
omen of corruption DEADthe stocks are empty forever they're GONE
>>567796863I'd be surprised if CoC doesn't get a nerf just because of how much people are griping about itAlso because it was insanely overtuned before
>>567796980>press ctrl+f>type leech>READ, NIGGA, READretard
>PoE 2 will make melee playable>melee isn't playableWhats the point of PoE 2 then?
poe1 has too much content and it's way too daunting for a new player. I was interested in trying it out but the sheer amount of shit is scaring me away...
>>567796603Yet why can Cloak of Flame or Raw ES do so?
>>567797091how would a crafting bench change that? have you redditors ever thought about that for one second? They keep adding crafting currency to poe 1 and they don't involve the crafting benchretards
my final copium is new secret alternate ascendancies
>>567796980leech is effectively no longer in the game
>>567797105the fuck does zweites deutsches fernsehen has to do with poe2
>>567797145>"melee">in ARPGSyou're actually retarded
New deflect chance formula
Looks like I'm PoE 1 for life. 2 years into the beta by the time 1.0 drops and nothing has improved.
>>567797285>try to copy diablo 2>can't make melee workuhoh, niGGGer melty
>>567797114it's a complete non-player take. CoC is only "overpowered" because we have infinite mana and they're trying to remove all the infinite mana.
>>567797297>capped at 95%who fucking cares except softcucks. its another min invest EV, deflect, max ES, runic ward and block league
Leech has always been a huge problem and GGG keeping Vaal Pact and instant leech around ultimately ruined poe 1. Im glad theyre deleting it early this time
>>567796980Not having instant leech is a hit but when Tecrod's Exist if you keep your ES you basically can't die still>>567797154Honestly, it's as easy as>Run a braindead build and do a single type of league content while completing Atlas>So running PConc Pathfinder and just doing Harvest>Change the league every week until you more or less know everything there is to do>Then dedicate a month to craftingOf course it's still time consuming but learning isn't hard
>>567797154what really separates poe1 players from otherwise is that they were also once afraid of the complexity, where others simply hate it out of frustration and loathing of a game asking them to think for once
>>567796750I would love to see your cloak of flame + goregirdle + armor to chaos helm PoB bro.Wanna link a poeninja so we can see the CRACKED potential of armor?
Anyone wanna join my guild?
>>567796972i saw one guy stacking es recharge on weaponswap nodes
>>567797145it all boils down to the dodge roll mechanic and the "combo" system they're trying to force down everyone's throats. Until they turn away from those core tenets of the design philosophy, melees will always be dogshit
When does the streamer compilation of reactions to the patch notes come out so I know whether to post from my hope folder or my doom folder? I don't know anything about PoE 2 as I don't play bad games.
>>567797671that anon will never post a pob. its not worth responding to warriorniggers
>>567797737the game* will always be dogshit
>>567797209I forget, did they announce abyssal lich before that league? Or was it actually secret?
>>567796750>>567797095>cloak of flame>armor stackingwhy are armorshills such fucking retards
>>567797820not wrong, but those two mechanics disproportionally effect melees
>Feral Invocation will no longer ignore cooldownWhy though?
>>567797830it got datamined, not announced
https://www.reddit.com/r/PathOfExile2/comments/1tk1yna/shield_wall_and_boneshatter_nerfed_bows_buffed/
Why do they balance like its a fully released game and not an early access unfinished game with dogshit fucking balance? Volcano was completely unplayable and needed at least 3x damage, this isn't going to cut it.
>>567797671literally just go to poeninja and look at bear shamans using cloak of flame + goregirdle. You can walk around with sub 3k HP and no ES and facetank everything in the game. You can build well past 100k armor already even without adorned or any bullshit expensive setup
'VKE
how many months until the next poe league?
No new skills to use early on? Still stuck with the usual shit?
>>567797945ahh, what a shame pretty fair to think anything secret will be datamined for this league too
>>567797830Abyssal Lich was a secret, we know a few things about this league>Chayula will get a secret notable (probably not a full ascendancy) when doing the Breach quest
>wyvern barely touchedyup im going wyvern spirit walker
Can I still play LA and have a good time?
Honestly? Earnestly? These aren't nearly enough nerfs. The leech nerf is great though. The rate in which they include powercreep way outpaces the small nerfs to random skills. The baseline power multiplier of basic endgame gear is still way way too high.My standard of power isn't even that low, it's just that at one point people used to get filtered by low yellows because they didn't actually bother improving their build or only using low scaling skills like EDC. Now any retard (truly any retard, including people who have never played poe 2) with a functioning hand can hit T15s without a single hitch.
>>567797852>armor stacking's big problem is life pool/max hit>armor to ele solves this for ele damage>corrupted cloak of flame converts over half of phys damage to fire>you have max res increases and aforementioned armor to ele to basically nullify said fire damageYou guys are really this fucking stupid? You think an item has to be an armor base type to contribute to an armor stacking build? I thought poe players were smart?
>Fixed a bug where your friends list could sometimes appear blankI'm going to have friends!
so its another fucking bow or twister league start... what happened
>>567762325ALL CLASSES BUFFED
>>567798170two thirds of any armor build's armor comes from the chest piece, if you ever actually played the game you would know this. this is actually embarrassing.
Anyone else sick and tired of the absolute shit state of balance changes we have been getting from POE1 and 2 the last year. No meta shakeups besides nerfs, never bringing up unperforming or just downright horrible existing skills that nobody wants to play. They could do sooooo so so much more but sadly they never do.
>>567797737It really doesn't. All else equal the inferior range/AoE of melee is inherently worse so the only way to make it viable is to offset it with strengths. GGG refuses to do that (they aren't particularly good game designers so they probably don't really know how even if they wanted to), so melee remains a drawback without a purpose.Something like Twister is further from the combo vision than a lot of melee skill packages, let alone passive summoner play styles that they're now trying to push. It has nothing to do with that.
>>567798027This will get deleted
>>567798192retard
>>567798168obviously its not enough, which is what the next couple months is for. +skills didnt get hit hard enough for one but i get they dont want to make too hard of a shift at once.most stuff i wanted changed got changed so im happy
>>567798007>https://poe.ninja/poe2/builds/vaal/character/RFM-6861/RFMA?i=1&search=items%3DGoregirdlencie build retard
so with the leech changes, thorns builds using thorns leech is practically dead no? kind of a bummer, as it was my second character last league and while retarded was relaxing to play.
>>567798170so if you don't use cloak of flame, armour is dogshit?
>>567798330A bunch of redditors are already trying to guilty-trip the guy. I'm sure they are mashing that report button.
the vision will endure
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>>567797996>limit of 1>can't increase the rate of magma ballslmao. nice shit pooptards
>>567798373just find a different way to recover your resources, king :)
>>567798375>have to use one item or the whole defense mechanic is brickedarmorshitters are actually THIS retarded
>>567798510Twister is bait, it's clunky and extremely inconsistent.
>>567798291Retard, you have no idea what you're talking about. You can hit over 100k armor (pre-goregirdle) even with sacrificing that chest piece. Do you have any idea how much 200k+ armor to ele mitigates? You can stand on a max tier Xehst hand slam (4,000 phys damage unmitigated) and take 200-300 damage from it using the setup I mentioned. You are completely and utterly clueless
>>567798473guilt*
DELETECOC
>>567798587wdym? the fastest speedrunner who's better than Ben uses it
>>567763563infernal legion still. I don't care if its only 10% now, its comfy. probably other ways to scale it, even if the crit bug is fixed
>>567797996Fear of the community throwing tantrums results not only in a reluctance to nerf but a reluctance to make meaningful buffs.
i like how people are going crazy about spell totem but every spell has a limit, a cooldown, or needs infusions, so it'll end up an infusion generator at best.
>567798587>t. 10h act 3 completion
>>567795830It's about the fortifying cry change to no longer shotgun, not the scaling on shield wall itself.
>>567798654And had to ban the other two speedrunners from his chat over merely criticizing Twister as not being the best build. That's how a secure and stable person behaves. Twister is clunky dogshit.
I can't believe Snoobae obliterated the entire Asian incel crew AGAIN. How is one man so good at stomping Asians?
>>567798693Bone Cage with astral projector is pretty good self-cast with no conditionalswith spell totems it will break the game in half
>>567798621there isn't a single build on poe.ninja that has more than 25k armour with cloak of flame, are you actually a fucking child?
>>567798654speedtranny antics do not matter
>>567798375>i have to optimize my build for it to be goodIdiots like you should be culled.
Up to 3 of the above Omens may be used simultaneously.
retarded braindead neuron fried gacha junkie herewithout me having read the notes, who won, and who lost?
Is twister a playable skill on ritualist?
mark bare faced lied and said chronomancer got buffed when they removed the only damage scailing and nerfed it by 50% in damage
REMOVE COC
how were balance changes more sweeping when only 15 people worked there
>>567798875I asked a very simple question. is armour shit without cloak of flame or not?
>>567798913everyone lost expect twister, plants, and ed/c.
>950 upvotes >900 commentsI don't feel so good, GGGbros...We might be hitting sub-250k concurrent
Is CoC untouched because its RMT mirror bait?
>>567798913PoE 1 won bigliest. PoE 2 and Destiny 2 both got EoS'd and losted the most.
It's a deadeye ice shot league
>>567798940retard
>>567799036its nerfed by 40%
>>567798940This is a buff.
>>567799014Redditors will cope that "Player count is low because everyone will play on 1.0"
>>567799073>>567799097if you dont explain why you are both retards bigger retards than any corpo cock sucking tendie on /v/
Disciple untouched outside of some nerfs to ES
>>567798974>one item makes armor invincible>without this item is it shit??????Gee retard, ask yourself this question 10 times until you get it. The answer is yes. Armor is fine without it and becomes absurdly tanky with it. >>567798836poeninja doesn't show armor to ele amount and doesn't factor in goregirdle. You can easily hit 200%+ armor applies to ele and goregirdle will double that. So a poeninja that shows 25k will have literally, exactly 100k armor with this setup.Again you are fucking braindead dude.
>>567798007>Shaman>Cloak of flameKind of excessive isn't it?
>567799194>gachanigger>calling anyone else a retardretard
>>567798940>remove the node that makes recoup 4s instead of 8s>people used to have 4s base + 25% recoup speed>now 8s 25% recoup speed and +10 +10 + 25% on the tree>8s 70% recoup speedthese are the same thing apparently
Instead of 0.5 we getting 0.4.1a lul
how the hell did they buff blood mage when it was the second most played ascension?
>>567799014This general has had as many comments since the notes as the reddit post. Proof that poe1 is a redditor's game
My hype and excitement.... gone
>>567799241Extremely excessive yea, but I like watching my HP not budge while I explode the map. Shaman bear was insane. Armor doomers just don't understand second order effects.
>>567799061I think I might go Galvanic Sharts Spirit Walker since the reload on rollslop support barely got hit and you get +proj from rollslopping. Truly the most visioned build in the game
>>567798170>>567798621https://poe.ninja/poe2/builds/vaal?items=Cloak+of+Flame&C2armour=&sort=armour&columns=character%2Clevel%2CarmourWell that's curious, because the highest armour player with a cloak of flame on POE ninja has 26k with 22 passives invested in armor, and he's certainly not wearing the chaos hat.Want to share your 100k armour chaos immune cloak of flame goregirdle shaman, anon?
>>567799301its dead
>>567799285The Inevitable Agony Skill granted by the Inevitability Notable Passive Skill has been reworked. It is no longer a Curse, and has a 2 second Cooldown. The Debuff is now a Life Loss effect instead of secondary hit damage, and the Debuff amount is now displayed on static health bars. The Debuff also now instantly Culls enemies when total Life Loss reaches Culling Strike Threshold. Now grants Debuffed targets lose life equal to 25% of Hit Damage dealt to them while Debuffed (previously 50%). Enemy Curse Effectiveness no longer applies to this Skill, meaning Unique Enemies have the same effectiveness as previously, while other Enemies have less. Debuff duration is now 12 seconds (previously 6-8.6 seconds). Quality now grants +0-0.5 Metres to initial cast radius (previously Curse zone erupts after 0-10% reduced delay). The Skill has also received new visual effects.im not talking about the recoup
>>567799301>retards like this anon are going to league start blood magelollmao
>>567799301>complelely dumpster leech>delete all instant leech>slightly buff one blood mage leech node>/poo/ thinks this is a buff
>>567798027Yeah it's depressing at this point, 6 months and we get no changes to 90% of skills which might as well not exist next to the top skills in the game (Poe 1 or 2)
>>567799301It's not buffed. Leech is raped and they made sure to remove instant leech so you couldn't get to another instance of leech faster. Some retard argued with me that it wouldn't be more important to leech than it was before last night. He was wrong which is why it was removed completely.
>>567799378>because the highest armour player with a cloak of flame on POE ninja has 26kRead nigger, read: >>567799223>poeninja doesn't show armor to ele amount and doesn't factor in goregirdle. You can easily hit 200%+ armor applies to ele and goregirdle will double that. So a poeninja that shows 25k will have literally, exactly 100k armor with this setup.That "26k" armor setup is actually multiple times higher. lrn2read
>>567798621You niggers keep saying this and every time I have to remind you.If I take EVERY SINGLE FUCKING ARMOUR NODE ON THE TREE and get EVERY ARMOUR ASCENDANCY and get EVERY FUCKING T1 MOD POSSIBLE ON ARMOURI GET 111k****10**** FUCKING THOUSAND MORE than what you claim is "EASY"With ALL OF THAT???Are you just pulling these numbers out of your ass? Are you an ape brained fucking NIGGER??? GOD you piss me off. You are lucky to get 50k armour, not 100k. On a Merc, you are lucky to get 20k of Armour and Evasion. You are never, ever, in a reasonable fucking scenario, getting ONE HUNDRED FUCKING THOUSAND ARMOUR. Kill your FUCKING self.
uh oh melty
>universal nerf>buff to a single character>"it's not a buff because I'm retarded!!!!!"it is a buff and relative to everyone else is a big buff, you're all retarded mongoloid subhumans
>>567799568>brainlet that refuses to read
>armorniggers are all braindead apes"poo"ttery
>>567799612CorrectFUCK these hyperbolic NIGGERS
>>567799612He's right though. You retards pretend to know everything and exaggerate shit to make other people feel stupid.
>>567799568retard
>do nothingChuddah bros stay winning
>>567799568You're an actual retard.
>>567799741>The secret ascendancy will save us, chudbwos>dies from copium overdose
>>567799734>>567799772>>567799775retards
Nah, he's right. Fuck these clowns. Retards on Reddit think Armour/Eva is fine because, and I quote:>"Its easy to get 40k armour and evasion by level 80"I have yet to see proof of this. These drones are lying for no reason.
>>567799568
one word summary uninspired
>>567799668>You can hit over 100k armor (pre-goregirdle) even with sacrificing that chest piece> (pre-goregirdle)> (pre-goregirdle)you said this, didn't you? it looks awfully retarded now, doesn't it?
>mcdonalds increases their prices 100x>gives one guy a 10% off coupon>this is a buff btw
console players play on the same servers as pc players? can you play on both xbox and pc with the same account?
>>567799826its ok to pick defense nodes anon, you dont have to only pick % increased damage nodes.
>>567799901one word summarybalanced
armorsissies havin a big melt today
>>567799775>>567799772>>567799734If you get 111k at absolute maximum, how are you getting 100k pre-goregirdle? Again, show me the PoENinja build with 100k armour that is allegedly 'easy' to attain.
>>567799918How?
>>567799918yay I got a coupon
>>567799903And in your post you literally show that you can simply get 100k armor without any uniques or synergy. With ONE unique equipped you instantly turn that into 200k. You're proving my point moron. Stop sperging out and start buildcrafting better.
>>567799536Sorry I didn't spam refresh before posting to see if you already deboonked me. maybe you should say 25k armour instead of "100k armour AND goregirdle AND cloak of flame" since that's obviously a bullshit hyperbole.16k phys maxhit with infinite phys/ele EHP isn't bad, but this is the best armour setup on all of poe ninja lol. for a >20 passive point investment in armour and 4 defensive ascendancy points with perfect gear, I expect better. And he's still useless vs degens and chaos damage.My CI build last league had decent gear at best, 2 ascendancies in defense, 7 passive points invested in defense, and it had 10k maxhit and functionally infinite EHP vs everything, and took 0 chaos damage and had bleed immunity lol. If you wanna compare apples to apples the strongest ES builds on poe ninja have like 30k maxhit and functionally infinite ehp too.and no, armour is not "fine" without it, because you're back to getting oneshot by boss slams.
>>567799918>food analogy>>567799990retard
>The following Modifiers can no longer roll on Waystones: Baron's, Beastly, Brambled, Doryani's, Enervating, Faridun's, Hallowed, of Nemeses, Perennial's, Rusted, and Sacrificial.Those are the steal charges one, the add additional packs of X ones, and whatever "of Nemeses is". I didn't see it on poedb
>>567799945My builds often take like 3-4 clusters worth of Armour+Eva and I am lucky as fuck if that breaks 20k. Thats if I don't rape myself with Sorcery Ward (I have to because I have no HP otherwise)>>567800013Reread his post and look at that tree. Thats all T1 armour mods and a shield and a 160 point passive tree of armor nodes and also scavenged plating up. Realistically, you're getting half that, maybe less.
>>567798541it might be a softcore league for my shitter build plans
Since Cross-Slash Autobomber is dead, what should the replacement be? Wing Blast is looking alright, I guess there's molten crash too but it looks like it'll eat all your rage
>>567800064>my CI build was betterYea no shit retard ES was incredibly busted for 0 investment that's why it just got gutted. No one was saying armor was easier to build or better than ES. Might be now tho
>>567800013i wish i was fucking retarded like you, must be nice.
>>567800013>simply get 100k armour>with PoB edited itemslol getting a 900 pdps crossbow is so easy i just made it in pob bros why are you complaining?
>>567799826They made EV/Armour builds even more shit by adding armor applies to elemental damage. If you're going to have hybrid nodes on the passive tree, they at least need to be giving a small amount of deflect rating and armor applies to elemental damage. Currently you're just splitting it down the middle without getting to really benefit much from either.
>Added the new Minion Splash and Minion Splash II Strength Support Gems. These Support Skills which create Minions which Strike, causing those Minions' Strikes to have Melee Splash.i posted this image then ggg makes this lmfao
>patch notes>ctrl+f>"fsr">0 resultscmon WORK ON THE GAME
>>567800112>Realistically, you're getting half that, maybe less.Yea the 100k is totally unnecessary but it's possible. You shoot far past 100k just getting the right mods and uniques so it's irrelevant. You guys are missing the forest for the trees.
>Fixed a bug where Minion Instability did not bypass Last Gasp.
>>567800370>getting the right modsgetting all t1s with max rolls isn't 'the right mods' its statistically fucking impossible or at least 1-in-a-league level of luck.
>>567800314GGG has copied 99% of the mechanics of poe 2 from d2, d3 and d4
Twisted Empyrean HoWA INT and mana-stacking Martial ArtistSocket 5 Resolve runes with your runic meridian for free +60 INTif you want to get really spicy you can use a Bringer of Rain and dual wield EmpyreansThink about it, poebabs.
>>567800212>no shit retard ES is better...ok, thanks for conceding after calling me a retard 20 times. When I make statements about how "good" a defense is, they are relative to the opportunity cost of said defense since that's a more meaningful metric than the maximum potential in a void. Here's to hoping GGG can fix their shit and make armor playable without the cloak with another 4 incremental buffs over the next 2 years.
>>567800370>You guys are missing the forest for the trees.No, you're being a retard mangling your point by insisting on the end effective value of a specific extreme outlier.
playing scssf martial artist whirling assault until I blind learn all the new pinnacles then rerolling to hcssfbtw snipe mirage archer or smith of kitava forge hammer
>>567800353>she needs fsr in order to play gamesbro just buy some decent hardware lmao, you're not a poorfag are you? fsr is for turdworlders
>>567798969Because now it's two games and they're both much bigger than early PoE 1, but the number of people with unilateral decision making power hasn't increased to match.Hence Mark constantly going on about how over-worked he is, how he'll see to such and such longstanding issue when he has a few hours to spare. Senior GGG members are ridiculously spread thin but unwilling to delegate when it comes to important game design choices.
>>567800467The damage scaling with attacks and spells is ripped straight from D2. You can't add any flat damage to spells in both games for example.
>>567800542vased
>>567800314SRS is so backlogin
>>567800370>know fuck all about game mechanics>make up numbers>accuse anons of missing the forest for the trees when called out
>The Megalomaniac Unique Jewel now drops identified.I wonder what brought this change on
>>567800453Idiot, you don't need t1 armor mods. If you can't bother reading I don't know what to tell you. >>567800535>getting one suffix and two extremely common low level uniques is an extreme outlierNo, retard, you're just a moron that can't figure shit out even when it's literally spelled out for you.
>>567800212>0 investmentYou still had to grab a respectable amount of the tree, it was just that life was pretty bad
>>567800353> still no performance optimizationD2R and D4 look just as good (D2R looks better than both) and my shitty hardware handles them just fine. Meanwhile my pc gets raped by poe2 for no reason.
>ward isn't a defence
>>567798168I member when getting to reds was legitimately an achievement
>>567800653why don't people ever like you ever post their epic 100k armor builds i wonder.
>>567800621>>know fuck all about game mechanicsMeanwhile I'm being told "25k is as high as they go! wtf that's not 100k!" while they ignore the GAME MECHANICS that make that 25k turn into 100k.>make up numbersThis never happened, I'm objectively correct and you're incapable of coping so you're lashing out.
>>567800542they fucking ruined it bro, i wanted to do this :(
>>567800680Ward subtracts defence, actually. :^)Still gonna be better for red life than not using it.
Surely they'll shadowdrop arcane archer this week, right?
https://poe.ninja/poe2/builds/vaal?sort=armour&columns=character%2Clevel%2Clife%2Cenergyshield%2Cehp%2Carmour%2Cdps%2CkeystoneskillDo you guys really think someone would just go on the internet and lie like that?
>The Ancestral Bond Keystone Passive Skill now causes placing totems to have no cost and not require consuming charges to place. It still causes totems to reserve 75 spirit each, and now doubles totem limit instead of removing it completely.???????????????????? totem meta, it's trivial to get at least 5 totems
>>567800843Just because the whirling assault attack speed quality change? It's a nerf but not enough to make a difference. I'm also going to attempt pure EV/deflection to see if that's finally viable
>>567800907>-25% cast speed>no auras>no infusionsuh you could go for it i guess
>>567800907ur spirit, retard?
>>567800897After duelist and swords yeah
>>567800754https://poe.ninja/poe2/pob/14c3fThis build has 97,680 armor by my calculations, and I probably missed something that makes it higher.>22k armor>222% armor applies to ele >2x from goregirdle
i will be completely orignal and either do plant oracle or ed/c abyssal lich.
>>567800653>No, retard, you're just a moron that can't figure shit out even when it's literally spelled out for you.The reason it's an "extreme outlier" is because you keep insisting that the synergy between those two uniques and stacking instances of a suffix is reflective of all use-cases of the defense. What about people who want literally anything else in those two slots?>>567800780>Meanwhile I'm being told "25k is as high as they go! wtf that's not 100k!" while they ignore the GAME MECHANICS that make that 25k turn into 100k.Because your initial statement was structured as "100k PLUS the two uniques", not "100k THROUGH the two uniques". You keep insisting that it's "100k armor" as pertains to the entire Defense, and just keep digging your heals in about a single use-cases' blown-out effective defends-with value.
Your 0.5 metahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyIO5-E9QnI
>>567800907How are you getting 375 spirit trivially?
>>567801259>linking a Borderlands youtuberThe absolute state
Can you two retards arguing about armour take this to DMs and stop shitting up the thread with your extreme faggotry. Thanks
>100k armour is easy you just have to literally barely reach it at the end of a league in tradecore and be literally in the top 10 for most armourlmao
do you still need chaos res with eternal life or does it nullify chaos damage like with chaos inoculation?
>>567801213Did plants get nerfed at all? I was surprised I didn't see anything.
>>567800978itll work until you only have 1 portal and keep """"""randomly"""""""" getting oneshot cause of the caps on both mechanics
>>567801358Ya, but what about this belt that maxes out my PDR at 50%?
is this es players lashing out now that they actually have to optimize like the rest of us
So you had to search for the top builds with total armour on PoENinja to get someone with 100k armour? Thats "easy"?Almost like he was right and a realistic amount of armour is 50k.
>>567801368Chaos damage doesn't go through ES in poe2, it just deals double damage to ES. So yeah you'd still need chaos res.
>>567801310sorry I didn't link the screeching asian or tranny you love so much
The point is that really only one ascendency (titan) is capable of stacking enough armor (and life) to make it feel like a good defensive layer, while for many other builds and ascends in that part of the tree have a hard time breaking 20k even while taking defensive nodes and gear.
>>567801372doesnt seem like it
>>567801440>convert 75% of physical damage to an elementThat capped 50% PDR suddenly doesn't matter because the biggest phys hit in the game now only does 500 damage.
If I want to play Explosive Grenades and Cluster Grenades, is Deadeye still the ascendancy to go? Or does any mercenary ascendancy can finally rival it damage wise?
>>567801185anon... ele damage is generally ~3.5x to 4x higher than phys damage to account for resists. So "by my calculations" it has 22k armour vs ele and 22k vs phys. With a cap of 50% phys mitigation. And how about your headhunter as the opportunity cost here, what's that worth by your calculations?if you want to stop getting shit on ITT then stop hyperbolizing. You honestly have a decent case if you wanted to argue >The top end of armor is playable but reliant on specific uniques and still vulnerable to chaos and degensThe reason nobody believes you is you instead choose to go around saying>Akshully you have 100k armor!!
>there is only one (1) character out of 124,000 on poe ninja in 0.4 SC with at least 100k armourholy kek the armourfag is beyond delusional
>>567801585i turned off my titan nodes and have 60k armour so you are retarded
>>567801760Kill yourself
>>567801262maybe not trivial, but it could work.more spell damage from rage. one of shapeshift damage buffs applying to the totem
Carn is not happy
>>567801875>So "by my calculations" it has 22k armour vs ele If you can't even bother doing the actual calcs why are you even posting this? You clearly have no interest in being right even though the calcs have been done in this very thread>b-b-b-but headhunterInsane cope
>AIEEEEEEEEEEEE NERFS NERFS NERFS>they just toned down the braindead instawin poe1 aoe 1 click screen wipe meta build and buffed the other options to balanceas always poeg is retarded
>>567801262If only there were ways to add efficiency to your reservation statistic.
>>567802054Headhunter is the best mapping item in the game besides the Gloom Shrine Sceptre.
patch notes really bring out the theorycraftlets huh
>>567802142retard
>>567802142and yet, everyone will be playing twisters or snipe on day 1. retard
>>567802054Yes, read again. If ele hits are about 4x higher than armor needs to be about 4x higher to compensate. So your claim of "100k armor", by which you mean ~4x armor vs elemental hits after all unique effects, means armor will apply about the same to ele and phys now.If your entire belt slot to get away with even playing armor is a "cope" then I want what you're smoking.
God i wish they didnt remove the last lament lich build that was the most fun i ever had in this game.
>>567802142Explosive grenades weren't touched though
God I'm so grateful they removed the last lament lich build that anon had the most fun with
>>567802142That's nice, I'll be clearing screens with Galvanic Sharts.
>>567802153efficiency doesnt work on totems r-tard
>>567800471>mace skillsnah i'm good
>>567802142ive yet to see a good reason for this >>567799408yes im still seething about it
has there been any actual buffs to skills to make them usable like with whirling assault last patch?
>>567802376This might be the league I finally play crossbows. How do you deal with the cringe reload?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ecStyFgTck
>>567802272>If ele hits are about 4x higher than armorHey retard they're 4x higher baseline and that's why we build to 75% resistance. Your point would only make sense if the armor build were running around with 0 res. Instead it's running OVER 75% max res so you couldn't possibly be more wrong. You're trying WAY too hard to assess this in a vacuum without context to smudge your retarded numbers into a copout for you being wrong.
>>567802487There is a lineage support that reloads when you rollslop that also synergizes with Spirit Walker's Owl ascendancy nodes.
>>567802495Cutie alert
>>567802495can really see the adam's apple in this one
gonna play hollow palm martial artistgonna get bored after a couple days in the atlasgonna go back to xcom
>>567802578Noted
>>567802495kelly approved
>>567802569I hate to break this news to you, but armor applies before resists, so yes 4x more armor is needed to mitigate ele equivalently.Given this new information, would you like to reevaluate?
Lads hear me out:SRS + Living Lightning with Huntress's 60% added damage notable
>>567802272>If ele hits are about 4x higher than armor needs to be about 4x higher to compensatethis isn't even true, phys hits are way way bigger in poe2. that's why ES builds always build to 10k+ ES because it's the only way they can survive being one tapped
What the fuck are the last two martial artist nodes, are they seriously not done with them?
do people actually like path of dogshit 2? why?
why won't this phat hog buy a better microphone
>>567802495>lily goes full ironic clickbait derangementfinally, someone does it
where are all the league starter YT videos
When do the patch notes get good?
>>567802874when you read about the ES recharge nerfs
>>567795107LOOK DOWN, ANON! JONATROONS ALREADY ON THE GROUND :(
>>567802769those are minions not companions
>>567802769That only affects companions, retardbro.
>>567801760>witch hunter is tanky and good for bosses>gemling lives or dies on the alt quality for explosive grenades, if its 40% more AoE or more grenades it can be OP>tactician has "free" eternal rage + rage effect" easily and can stack armour and get an aamazing amount of deflection
>>567802769Not companionsNo Fun Allowed
>>567802874they are already good at diablo4.com
>>567795107He's quitting PoE2 kekhttps://x.com/CARNDARAK/status/2056569598825107460
league full of nerfs = bad leaguethis has been proven dozens of times in the past
>>567802716You are a truly stubborn retard, you know that?>take 1,000 ele dmg hit>50,000 armor to ele mitigates this by 83%>generic 75% fire res mitigates this further by, you guessed it, 75%>you take 127 damageYou're going to find some way to tell me this is impossible/bad, aren't you? I can't wait..
>567803113>shifts goalposts away from original 100k armor claimsretard
>>567802915cant that be solved by the fourth teaching? either that or umbral soul stacking skeletal clerics.
>>567802495
>>567803158>says 100k is impossible>post pob>lol you need the best gear ever (cloak of flame)>ok well here's the calc for half that and it mitigates nearly 90% of the damage>still sperging outI shit in your mouth lil gup
>>567803065this patch notes are biggest nothingburger. we had more nerfs in 0.4
I want to play doedre frog build
I actually have an INSANE build that uses all the new buffed stuff and none of the old nerfed stuff, its going to be nuts
>>567803420liar, nothing got buffed
>>567803410you don't
>>567803456bows got buffed tho
>controller won't shake constantly if you pause the game at low lifeThis is a massive nerf to my use case..GGG
>>567803113That's nice? Since you didn't try to refute my point, and have already conceded that ES CI is better than armor, I think this topic has reached its conclusion.
>>567803470I will make it work
is there seamless swapping between kb and controller yet
>>567803320This is actually how I kind of feel. It seems like nothing is really going to change in 0.5 build wise.Only 4 ascendancy changes (including the 2 major reworks) was surprising
>>567803567Literally nowhere did I ever say armor was better than some CI ES build nigger. I merely stated that it is strong (it is) and you keep tard sperging out every time you're proven wrong
>>567803275>You can hit over 100k armor (pre-goregirdle) even with sacrificing that chest pieceexcuse me? did i miss when you proved this?
>resident armorsperg spergs about armor>uses the single most defensive build he can find on poe ninja for reference>doesnt have HH>doesnt have degen protection>doesnt have chaos protectionThis is our worst ritualposter. I like the jingakh guy, can we just kill the armorfag and get another jingakhposter?
there was nothing in the patch notes
>>567803780This is the first time I have ever posted about armor here. I've never even played warrior and only touched armor for the first time in 0.4 yet apparently know more about it than all of you combined. Take your meds man
>>567803883oh sorry, I confused you for another retard who also lies about armor numbers and insists everyone wear the sissy cloak or blackbraid. Welcome to poo gee, you fit right in. retard.
.4 was a beta league, .5 is the real .4, it's .4 with endgame and the temple exploit patched
kinda surprised they didnt giganerf everything in 0.5. They obviously need to for 1.0 but it would be too much of a feelsbad for all the streamers to doom during the big release.They should've nerfed everything by 90% in this patch and then buffed everything by like 30% in 1.0.
>>567803995>who also lies about armor numbersCan you point me to any calculations I got wrong? I'll wait
>>567804029>They obviously need tolol kill yourself
where are the buffs to weak skills? hello???!!!!
>>567804029I am hoping they will have more nerfs in the 0.5.x resets, but GGG has always been shit at balancing the game, and even if they get it right before 1.0, they'll add so much new stuff that they break everything again
>>567804080not the anon you are in a cat fight with, but please either post a screenshot of your character info panel in-game showing 100k armour or kill yourself. Thanks
>>567803995blackbraid anon here, it was good until they added armor applies generally. now you just stick brass dome on.cloak has always been bad.
Is it really going to be a minion league? That's lame as hell.
>>567804124retard
>>567804219PoB and calcs already posted in the thread multiple times. I'm not going to reiterate myself for the 100th time because you refuse to read. Prove me wrong or fuck off
is using spearfield as a main skill possible it does barely any damage.
probably going to see deadeyes on rhoas again next league shooting ice instead of lightning
>100k armor is easy, 200k is more than doable>ONE, I repeat ONE, player on ninja has over a 100kThere is no coming back from this level of raped. Stop making it worse.
>>567804271THEY OBVIOUSLY NEED TO NERF EVERYTHING WE'RE TOO POWERFUL PEOPLE ARE NOT ROLLING ENOUGH
>>567804305No one cares about your PoB numbers faggot. Post the screenshot from in-game. If you can't, you've got nothing.
>>567804365Hey retard ninja doesn't apply defend with 2x armor and other mods such as armor to ele into the "armor" amount on the page>refuse to read>complains he doesn't understand numbersGo back to school
Did they not get rid of herald chaining? I thought that was a bug.
>>567804365youre probably talking to some retarded fubgooner who has never used armor let alone played anything over than what his favwit streamer says
>>567804408huge tell when you still refer to rolling or taking 10 minutes to kill a rare in poe 2
>>567804126all skills buffed in 1.0
I think I'm just gonna play merc again. AGAIN. For the 4th time. All other classes are just so fucking boring.
>>567804435Those PoB numbers are taken from an in-game snapshot you dolt
>>567804589that's what you faggot want
>>567804679moron!
>>567804505most people in this thread are literal drooling sub-simian IQ retards who can't understand anything beyond buying and using whatever their favorite streamer tells them.You are wasting your breath.
RIP my Sacramental Robe.
>>567804679merc is boringgalvanic is very boring
>don't get emotionally invested in skills>don't get upset if they get nerfed or buffed
>>567804776Poo 2 is boring
Im gonna play spirit walker grenades and fire 20 grenades per volley
>>567804505No, it's you continuing to be retarded by not wrapping your head around the difference between actually having 100k armor as a general build achievement and defending as if you had 100k armor for a specific subset of things with two item slots locked to Uniques multiplying efficacy.You're barely over halfway to getting 80% Exposure with a banner, for instance.
>>567804734>You are wasting your breath.I was trying to teach them but they're unwilling to learn or read even when I post exactly what they ask for. But you're right I give up
You guys do realize that the general lack of meaningful balance changes is strategic edging on GGG's part right?The big changes are being saved for 1.0 to amplify the hype that comes with it being released and going free to play. This way all the entrenched streamers can basedpog at CoC being nerfed and all the F2P noobies get to make their "I tried PoE2... It...Was...EPIC!" videos.
Can someone qrd me the patch notes and let me know if the plant djinn build is nerfed? I wanted to play that last league but quit before i made a new character
>The patch is bad on purposeLMAO
>>567804976>all elemental damage (and 75%+ of physical damage since you're converting it to ele + still PDRing 50% of the leftover )>this is "for a specific subset of" damageRetard. I am done with you
>Overcharge linked to minions untouchedElemental Sundering GAWDS...we won. 10m dps in poverty gear still achievable.
>>567805017es recharge got nerfed hard but other then that you're good.
>>567805353>he didnt readuhoh
i have spent hours trying to understand why ggg halved agony and removed curse effect scaling for more damage for chrono and i cant come up with a reason other than they want the ascendancy to be dogshit
>Overextend completely removed
>>567804987Well your arguing with his retarded ass taught me about the goregirdle tech, haven't played with armor in a while so it's nice to know about what people do with damage conversion and armor in general after it was changed. will play around with it myself when patch goes live.
>>567805136nta but yes that is what is known as a "subset".
they are saving the big balance changes for 0.6
I can understand why they didn't have a ton of meaningful changes since they did like 6 end game reworks at once.However, I would've still rather only had like 3 endgame reworks, a 3 month league, and classes, ascendancy changes or skills/gems/etc.
>>567805457if you need 50+% more damage from a single node than your build is already shit bub
>>567805365Ty. I dont even remember the names of the skills so i didnt know what to ctrl F to even look up.
>>567805521You can also mitigate chaos with armor. The armor itself won't mitigate degens but you can still mitigate them on an armor build. It's misleading to say a "specific subset" when it's actually a majority of damage in the game that gets massively mitigated.
>>567805457you do realize it does the same amount to uniques AND theres no delay AND you arent shoehorned into having to path by every curse node to make it good
>martial artist not in patch notesGGG must be taking it out back and gutting it
>>567805640did i say need? i said you cant scale it you retard i wouldnt even mind it at 25% there is no way to scale it beyond that you are hard stuck with that
>>567802835He's looking more bloated than ever
So Uber Arbiter is removed? The game got even easier?
>>567792668man fuck GGG
>Fixed an issue where Hollow Palm Technique was not providing its bonuses to most skills that could be used with any Martial Weapon.I FUCKING KNEW IT
>>567805898uh actually they removed all "infinite try" bosses after you do them once for the quest. once you do the quest its permanently in uber mode. hope you practiced the bosses instead of cheating them with comet!
>it's going to be a bunch faggots running around with ice shot and snipe next league
>>567803225what does it mean?
>>567805795its at 25% not 50% and curse magnitude raised it further for more damage its a net nerf. i see no other vector in the ascendancy for damage scailing like bloodmage is crit for example with life where is that for chrono? agony was that its all about doing curse styled spells so you would magnitude curses
>Added 3 Fluxes which can be crafted from Remnants to transform the resistances on your items from one element to another.2jeet bros, I thought we hated harvest resistance swap. How do we respond without coming off as conviction-less, backtracking cowards?
>gachanigger>retarded theorycraftletexpected but still funny
i dont see you proving me wrong nigger
>>567805457what about poop2 didn't you understand?
armor = le badevasion = le badES = le god mode
i just read the patch notes and there are lots of buffs why did you lie to me poeg
armor = le badevasion = le badES = le badward = le god mode
>>567806516me go full evasion deflect lifestackernothing can stop meI'll reach 100% deflect on 46% of damage and divert 33% of damage to companions
>>567806592this This THIS
>people are going to get baited into twisters/ice shot despite these ES nerfsleague start is going to be fucking hilarious
I have two good builds from 0.4 that are unaffected by the patch notes but I don't want to play them again
>>567806191so a 50% more damage node got nerfed for curse magnitude and buffed into usability for everyone else. its still stronger than most ascendancies in the game.
>Bitches talking about Chrono like they know shitYou are not part of the .07% playerbase. I am. The changes are good. You are stupid.I will league start Chrono and have fun. You were never going to in the first place.
>>567806592Just having 1 ward will be worth so much of every other defense combined.Just dont get hit twice
>>567806748My ES charges a bit slower but I play like a pussy anyway so it doesn't really matter.
>>567806743Why would I care about defenses when I kill everything before it can hit me?
>>567806085bad design.
>>567806804chrono unironically became the strongest general ascendancy by far. only downside is its on the top of the tree that got gutted.
Yeah, finna play Gemling
>>567806847>+ level mods don't show up until act 2 and got nerfednot anymore you don't bucko
It's infernalist's time to shine
>>567804720ok, post the screenshot then. should be simple enough and would end the debate instantly. you won't though, and we all know why
Which sword builds are you guys playing?
>>567806743it's a leveling build why would ES matter
>>567806974as a twister main you never needed levels on twister in campaignthat said everyone is still gonna get their shit pushed in because twister is not brainless to useI used it with life+deflect personally
>>567806974Who the FUCK cares about any defenses in the campaign? Brother we sit our res in the red until maps.
>>567807062I'm playing a flail build with the new cat o' nine tails unique
>>567807084yea i've been saying twister is bait as it is because of the clunk. the ES nerfs hardly make it unplayable but it's going to hard filter all the fubgooners playing it
>>567806890better than splitting up the keys and having dumb atlas nodes. also means the drops are actually meaningful
I was going to play grenades as haven't tried that yet. Is that any good with the gemling dude?Also buffed or nerfed in the patch?
>>567807209grenades are trivial to level withthe ascendency doesn't really matter because the power comes from the passive tree
>>567807209You don't even really need to ascend in campaign with grenades
>>567806809That's not how it actually works. If you take enough damage, it will still 1-hit you through your ward
>>567802937>>567802938>>567802962>Companions onlyFUARKWhy must GGG punish me like this?
>>567807515Oh... gay
Are totems usable now with new ancestral bond?
>>567804126To be fair it was stated this update would be less about balance and more about preparation and the endgame rework. Still though, straight up no (relevant) content to talk about since no new class or acts.>>567806937Can always pass by ES/EV (untapped) and ES/Armor
>>567807209if the alt qualities that grenades get are anything like the explosive bolt, yeah it's good.
>ctrl-f temporalis and choir of the storm>zero results
>>567807145oh yeah complete agreetwister has some funny jank to it and its not a very player-friendly skill due to a lot of nuances even if it is BIG damage
>>567807619they are S-tieryou sac one support and get 25% less cast speed for using them.75 x .8 = 60% of original damageif you get 6 spell totems, you are now dealing 360% of your original damageit also gives you another scaling vector (stacking spirit/totem placement speed)If you aren't playing totems in 0.5 you are literally retarded
>>567807884ok but how are you getting enough spirit or reservation efficiency to drop 6 totems?
>the armour retard started samefagging replying to himself
>>567807884or, here me out, I don't rape my spirit just so a funky lil guy can play my game for me?
>>567808028sceptres can get up to 220 spiritshaman+spirit amulet gets nearly 200 spiritits easy as fuck to cast 6 totems
What's a build that Furina would play
>>567808028Infernalist can get Spirit pretty easily.
>>567807619mmmm nyo
>>567808113my onahole
I'm going to play chober chaber minion build and there's nothing no one can do about it.
>>567807884ok but ill have just used rend once and moved two screens away while your first totem is still charging up the first spell
>>5678081133 Water Hag minions.
it would be pretty epic if mageblood was complete shit in poop2
>Specters untouched>"Watch How I Do It" untouchedIts over.At least chober got buffed. I guess. Minionbros where did it all go so wrong? Why do we still suffer for the sins of Summon Skeleton of Mages?
>>567808138there are no minion builds in poe2. There are cheerleaders while you play attack or caster.Minions are slow, do fuck all dps, bodyblock each other and they don't want them viable.They accidentally released a usable one with cocaine ants.>fun detected
>>567808346OSin is so why wouldnt mageblood
>>567808346its already complete shit in poo1
>>567808432Only in PoE1 do players consider the ultimate item to be one that sacrifices potency for automation.
Disappointing that the new shrine belt doesn't make it to poo2.
>>567808359There's always Yiffing (Pack Tactician) and Yjk (Knotted Huntress)
>>567808501>sacrifices potencyit literally doubles the potency of your flasks with enkindling orbs
>coc cometyou and WHAT mana????
>ancestral warrior totems had a hidden 0.6 second delay between each of its attacks>this was ontop of the dogshit animation speed of mace skills>they've made it even worse now>this is after they made it unusable by making it cost endurance charges btw
>"companion damage tripled">actually only buffed by up to 80%>when their damage in 0.4 was so pathetic and useless they were only used as aurabots
>poo2jeet reveals himself to be a retard when critiquing poo1
>>567806804>>567806937still doesnt show proof
>>567807545they hate fun
so, how do you play with the temple now that it was nerfed? they should port that change to poo2 immediately so we have an idea of what do to, league is already dead anyway and there are no challenges to do
>>567808796>What is Quipolatl's>What is Tecrod Lifetap
>>567809282they way it was intended aka week 1. no zoomers will want to run it now so all the crafting items and atziri drops are going to be multiple divines
>blizzard just discounted d2r on steamit's over for poo2
is this just a shitty tax node or am i retarded and dont understand why its actually good?
>>567808640pack tactician got hit a bit notably the minion rage effect
>>567809459Combine with stacking Max Fire Res. Phys -> Chaos does kind of suck though.
>>567809689phys to chaos is great if you have no other source of PDR
>>56780945920% less phys damage taken if you go ci
>>567809537Yes but now your minions can get their own rage, so it should more or less balance out right?
>>567809459mitigating phys damage is hard so if you have capped chaos res it gives you 15% reduced phys damage taken.
>>567809452i find it retarded that you can buy a game have to be online to play offline
PoE 2 builds for this feel?
>>567809869the uninstall and go back to southeast asia build
>>567809689How can you even get max fire res easily on the Witch without a bajillion uniques?
>>567809949loreweave
>>567809869not chronomancer thats for damn sure
Updated Patch Notes:After unlocking Unique Verisium Runeforging in Act 3 you can upgrade the base type of Unique Weapons and Armours that drop at levels lower than 55. Upgraded Unique Weapons will have higher damage, and Upgraded Armours will have increased base defences as well as Runic Ward. Allowing them to be more competitive at higher levels. Unique Armours above level 55 can still be Runeforged to modify their defences to include Runic Ward at the cost of reducing their other defenses similar to the base types.Ghost Dance: The interval between gaining Ghost Shrouds is no longer a duration. It now has "Modifiers to Cooldown Recovery Rate also apply to Ghost Shroud gain frequency". It also now has "When Hit, lose a Ghost Shroud", and "Regenerate Energy Shield equal to 2% of your Evasion Rating per second if you have lost a Ghost Shroud Recently". Now Gains a Ghost Shroud every 11.7-10.1 seconds at Gem levels 4-20 (previously 7.6-6.1)
>>567809759>>567809689it's actually even better with some armour because it just makes the top end mitigation of your armour better.
BLOATEDESTUPDATEEVER
>>567810040>2nd patch notes already droppedTheres going to be 10+ more updates
>>567810040>its realAHAHAHA they're already updating it, no build is safe
>>567803225Hes hard
>>567809452unironically is it worth buying as someone who's never played d2?
>>567810040Am I crazy or is ghost dance not even nerfed that hard? Yeah it's worst against burst but now you effectively get constant ES sustain.
Have they shown the ascendancy trees for the two new ones yet?
>>567810327yeah its actually fun
>patch added more bloat and made everything else feel like shitWonderful. This will surely jump our player numbers from 6k to 600k.
>>567810327nta its great download reimagined mod off nexusmods for it, if you get it its way better with it
>>567795236Wasn't the machine shit anyways
>>567810040Patch Notes 2
>>567810537im not gonna miss having to keep a billion shit items to poof
>>567810345it takes you half a minute to get 3 stacks now, previously you needed 6 seconds because the duration was getting reduced by less duration support
>>567810345It's pretty bad because you're not getting unique stacks if you get hit multiple times, you just refresh the recently duration
>>567810634>>567810765true that, I suppose
>>567810040>they started dropping the patch patch notes 2h after the main patch notes
the amount of ES player butthurt on leaguestart is going to be astronomical.
can they just update pob so i can find out if my build is bricked or not
>>567810040>no chrono changesi give up
>they nerfed everything it's overyou say this every single league yet every single league we get stronger and stronger
>>567810634Can't you just slap in atziri's impatience now and get 100% increased cd recovery rate easy?
Are we more or less hype after the patch notes
>>567811309read the single patch notes line that says what changed with impatience
>>567810369majority of their nodes yes
>>567811391I can't, I'm impatient
>>567811391fugg
>>567810369Lamitt sexo
PoE is still the better game
ALL RUNES BUFFED
>>567811587I'm a poe hater but I have to agree
>>567811382i still don't know what to start my martial artist as
I cant read patch notes, what got nuked, what survived, what is the metaslop, flicker martial artist good?
>>567811225The thing is nobody knows what's good because they don't show you half the nodes and hidden ascendancies and uniques and the campaign in this game is 15h so by the time the good stuff is figured out unless you were lucky on your original class choice you have to reroll
>>567809459...are you retarded?
>crossbow spirit walker>full move speed explosive shot summoning deer>if need single target use owl for a billion grenades of your choicethis is going to be the new deadeye
I'm just not excited
we playing what fubby is playing
Someone explain to this retard what the gathering storm/tempest bell change did. Is it better or worse than before?
>>567811775crossbows are nerfed
The annoying part about GGG's balance is that it seems that they play all the fun stuff, then nerf whatevers too strong.They never bother playtesting the lame and gay builds that aren't fun.Then they release, and people find ways to break the game with gay and unfun builds.So then they nerf things harder.. Will still only play testing fun builds. So fun builds are weaker and gay and lame builds are just as strong.Ad nauseam.So now there's an ocean of gay and lame builds with 999999999999 DPS and anything cool has "DONT EVEN THINK ABOUT IT" written as the first line in the description of the skill gem.
yeah, i'm thinkin chronomancer ice strike
>>567811858i think gathering storm is probably dead now that it cant hit the ice shards
Is traditional transform druid alright? I basically skipped 0.4 to try all spear skills on amazon while leveling, it was ass, I wanna do it again here.
>>567811741>nobody knows what's good before league launchgood>if you don't pick the best build you must rerollyou're mazed
>>567811945Wrong, the only nerfs crossbows got were some nerfs to lineage supports. I ctrl F'd the patch notes and Crossbows were mentioned a whopping 4 times in total
Does anyone want to leaguestart together?owo
>>567812278Are you good at doing a girl voice
>>567811382I'm always hyped, took that next monday and tuesday off work to no-life the new patch for 4 days straight
>>567812023true and real because whirlwind and twister build is really gay and unfun to play and same with ice shot snipe but guess what's going to be OP in the new league
>>567795236That blows, I always used it to get a decent chest early.
>>567809537Wait what I thought it got buffed.Did I read it backwards?FUCK>Nerf the apex build and wipe out half the ethical build variety in the processPlease god make it stop>>567812353No but I can probably do a decent mercenary and you can play the tsundere witch.
>>567812221
>>567812431So no? At least learn a useful skill before you post dogshit like that
>>567810537I used it to get T1 flat armor and T1 %armor on my boots. Its kind of nice for that.its been sitting in my inventory since because I have no idea how to craft and the last nice piece of gear I tried to craft I bricked.
>>567809807
haven't played poo2 in a while, is movement speed still king?
>almost no buffs to underpowered skills>almost no ascendancy balance changes>no new class or weapon>no new act>no ToTA"biggest patch ever" my fucking ass. people will see how tubbed the "improved endgame" is and nope out within a week.
>>567812763always will be
I have not played for a while, what is that on the healthbars now...
>>567812458doesnt affect normal builds
>>567812829Now would be the perfect time for crate to shadow drop fangs of asterkam.
>>567812925https://www.poe2wiki.net/wiki/Predatory_InstinctAmazon ascendancy node
>>567812925>All Mossad DevicesOh no. I hope you have a few grand saved up anon.
D4 status?
Is there a way for manachads to get attack damage in 2?
>>567812023well no wonder. say thanks to bald fucking retard, entire balancing team is retarded.poe2 have no future. this isnt 2013. you can't just make the same shit in second game and think that is going to work.
>>567812829>sextupled the amount of pinnacle bossesPeople will play for more than a week for this alone and that's not even 1/10 the changes made to endgame
>>567813117wonnered tremendously
>>567812056Yeah but you're forced to stick to an archetype
Really hoping there's a nice kalguuran skill, nothing looks fun so far.
>>567813312Bear with rage shit? Because Wyvern got nerfed?
>D4 sucks ass>grim dawn is old and stale>poo 1 is old and stale>titanquest is lamethere's literally no other option, we're stuck with poo 2. Better get used to it
>>567813369Rage is mandatory on the left side of the tree but yeah>Bear>Werewolf shit (it's fun but probably the worst by far, even more since pounce caught a stray)>Wyvern shit (still broken)
>>567813369What he means is that each transform individually doesn't have many options. Play bear? You use the few bear skills. You can pick between which form you want to play, but the forms themselves don't have many options within them.
>>567813389Sad, but true
>>567811858gathering storm was always cracked if you scaled the aoethe ice shard thing was just literally unintended amounts of damage
>>567813389>grim dawn is old and staleWROOOOOOOONG
>>567813564eww gross
>>567813564you could have 10x those numbers and it wouldn't matter. it still plays exactly like TQ which is incredibly dated
>varashta got no nerfsInsane lol
>>567811858they deleted an unintended interaction and replaced it with a vision-approved one
>>567813740>most played ascendancy in both HC/HCSSF>2nd most played in SSFbut anyway we need to delete shield wall because um...... like....just because... ok???
>>567813564problem is the game revolves around knowing where to go to get items with guaranteed +levels to your main damage skill
twisters are safeit's gaming time
>>567813369>wyvern got nerfedlol
>>567813938Imagine not liking MIs. Couldn't be me.I absolutely love entering an area that I know is chock full of good MIs for my class. Its like waking up on christmas morning.
who has the witch campaign guide
>>567814010They needed to cut the damage of flame breath and oil barrage in half at least.
>>567813925How come resonating shield got nerfed?Did I miss a FASTEST BOSS KILL EVER video?
>>567814241first you pick essence drain. then you pick contagion. then you kill stuff. done
EU fag here, just woke upwhat happened? the thread looks calm at first glance, I assume the patch notes are a big nothingburger?
>>567814285allegedly because shield base armor got buffed by 15% on the high endshield wall on the other hand can no longer shotgun so its kinda shit
>>567814295i've heard you also pick bonestorm
>>567814295um, you get contagion before ED, baka-kun
Also just woke upI dreamt I was EHG and Chris Wilson slapped his giant monster cock in my faceIt was very arousing
>>567813925>A bug causes it to outperform in damage>Fix this bug>Nerf it anywayIncredible reasoning
Updates for 22/5/26Updated Patch Notes:>After unlocking Unique Verisium Runeforging in Act 3 you can upgrade the base type of Unique Weapons and Armours that drop at levels lower than 55. Upgraded Unique Weapons will have higher damage, and Upgraded Armours will have increased base defences as well as Runic Ward. Allowing them to be more competitive at higher levels. Unique Armours above level 55 can still be Runeforged to modify their defences to include Runic Ward at the cost of reducing their other defenses similar to the base types.>Ghost Dance: The interval between gaining Ghost Shrouds is no longer a duration. It now has "Modifiers to Cooldown Recovery Rate also apply to Ghost Shroud gain frequency". It also now has "When Hit, lose a Ghost Shroud", and "Regenerate Energy Shield equal to 2% of your Evasion Rating per second if you have lost a Ghost Shroud Recently". Now Gains a Ghost Shroud every 11.7-10.1 seconds at Gem levels 4-20 (previously 7.6-6.1)
>>567814320as is tradition some of the overperforming builds got nerfed while others got totally ignoredes got nerfed a bit, armour buffed a bitrecombinator doodthere's a shitload of new skills & shit so we can't really know what the league will be like till it's datamined.
>>567814369Phew; good job, GGG. Caught that one. League would have been a disaster if people realised that you could do 15% more damage with a shield skill as a repercussion of increasing the damage of shields by 15%.
>>567814241>>567814424Here's the real guide:>pick up highest single damage crossbow you can>socket in fragmentation rounds with poison>Shotgun > Contagion > ED>Can skip through all of act 1 this way just sprinting into bosses>Need some cold res for Count Furry, probablyAnyway
carn was even saying that the only reason shield wall was even good endgame was because oh ahn's citadel letting you actually deal reasonable damage compared to other shitnow its just.....lol......
>>567814595>levels lower than 55Wait does that mean runic forging just floors the level to 55 or does like a 54 go to 80 but a 55 stays at 55?Hows this work?Because I thought it meant you could take leveling uniques to endgame.
>>567814320ES recharge nodes got hit hard, leech is gutted, CoC untouched. Incinerate oil grenade bug fixed. Overall not a big balance patch.
did coc comet got deleted like everyone was saying? I ain't reading ggg's dribble, they outed themselves are complete fucking retards already
>>567814870it was buffed
Is Wyvern gutted? I was maybe going to play either Cold Werewolf or Wyvern (Wyvern looks really cool).I also don't super understand the Pounce change because I thought Pounce was more of a mobility thing?
morningso whos the winner in patch notes
>>567814961Pounce was being used by every speedrun tranny for FREE movement speed. Wyvern is fine.
>>567814961wyvern is basically unchanged, rend will still wipe the screen and oil barrage will still delete anything
>>567815024Pic related
won't people just run comet totems instead of coc comet
DELETE COMET REMOVE COC
they're gonna spend 7 days reading reddit and patching stuff
>Divine Orbs are now more common.I like how everyone is so burnt out by all the teasers that no one even cared that this was in the patch notes.
>>567815220I don't care about Divines.
>still haveto put audio quality to LOW to get more fpsFix this
>>567763563Plant oracle. It's time to GROW!
>>567814870They killed leech so you can't sustain it anymore
>>567815079>base cast time of 2.5 seconds>3 comets per totemno
>>567814961Basically 10% less damage if you're going oil, and the flame breath bug got fixed. Still the same otherwise though.
>>567762325/poeg/ played D4 and found it easy (and fast) to do to everything the game as to offer, what would you recommend trying as a first class? would love something with either a great class fantasy or an unique that changes how the class is played.
>>567815215They're going to have to take up a hobby then, I think.
>Greater and Perfect currencies have been made somewhat rarer, with Transmutation and Augmentation being made significantly rarer.
Expect GIGA nerfs 12h before launch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1rLSu47u0QFUBBERS IS DOING IT AGAAAAIN
>>567811765thats what im asking
>all these streamers saying mace looks much faster in the preview footage so it's clearly getting buffed>search patch notes>lol>lmao even
>>567815540>>search patch notes?
>Expedition Explosives now wait to explode until most of the monsters unearthed by the previous Explosive have been killed.nigger... whatWHY?????
>>567815540It did get buffed.
>Twisters - Not touched>Shield wall - can no longer shotgun>Cast on crit - not touched>Leech - only 1 instance of Leech can now apply at once (rip blood mage)>Leech 2 - fast metabolism passive node no longer grants overleech>Energy Shield - giga nerfed across the board. many/all sources of recovery rate, base values, etc nerfed including ghost dance node>Grenades (all types) - not touched>Comet - moderate damage nerf (~15-20%)>Freezing salvo - 40% chill and freeze magnitude nerf>Plant skills - untouched>Shock conduction II - removed from game entirely>Vertex - can no longer roll +to all skill gem levels, replaced by all curse skill gem levels>Poisonburst arrow - static 3 second duration at all levels now (used to scale from 3 to 4.9 seconds)>Toxic growth - max limit reduced from 12 to 5>Arjun's medal support - now only has 25% chance to load a bolt (from 100%)>Bhatairs vengeance - now requires 2 rage per 1% damage rather than 1 (50% nerf)>Uhtred's Augury and Omen - both now grant 1 less level>The Brass Dome - armor reduced 25%>Chober Chaber mace - now has +2 to 3 to minion skills>Hyrri's Ire - evasion reduced from 250% max to 150%, added as extra cold damage reduced 20% max (from 25%)>Plaguefinger - now has "you can no longer inflict elemental ailments">Megalomaniac - now always drops identified>Greater and perfect currencies - now rarer>Divine orbs - are now more common>+Gem levels to skills affixes (all melee and projectile skills) - reduced by 1 to 2 across the board>+Levels to spell skills - untouched tldr patch notes
>>567815594you WILL enjoy the vision
>>567815671twisters got buffed
>>567815671toxic growth got destroyed wtf
>>567815671>>Arjun's medal support - now only has 25% chance to load a bolt (from 100%)YEahhh crossbows are RIP, fuck that, fuck having to wait to reload Crossbows are absolutely fucking SHIT without thatanyway
>>567815594I enjoy this because I forgot what direction I put my mines in so I either have to run around looking for them or try to chase the 200mph explosive detonator around the map.
> Tempest Bell: Can now be Ancestrally Boosted as though it were a Strike skill, and its maximum number of active Bells has been increased to 3 (previously 1), greatly improving its combo potential. Its Shockwave now deals 45-119% of Attack Damage at Gem levels 3-20 (previously 60-132%), and can trigger once every 0.3 seconds instead of 0.25 seconds. its a literal monk league now
>>567815582>>567815606Well, the changes can't be found with searching for "mace" , "attack speed" or "attack time" then and I'm not gonna read the whole thing when I need to leave for work in 10 minutes.
>>567815671>>+Gem levels to skills affixes (all melee and projectile skills) - reduced by 1 to 2 across the board>>+Levels to spell skills - untouchedHAHAHAHA FUCK PHYS PLAYERS FUCK YOU JONATHAN I AINT PLAYING NO MAGIC SISSY BUILDwhy is ggg so fucking anti fun
>>567815785grab a few nodes and its basically instant you big baby
okay so I'm still playing whirling assault titan
>>567815910Basically instant isnt 100% guaranteed
>>567815671Can't wait for league launch.
>>567815594It REALLY sucks ass when you overestimate your clear and get dogpiled by the whole damned mass at the same time.
>>567815220you need them for perfect corrupts and sanctifies now
>>567815839What are you comboing it with?
>>567815785It's going to be fine. 25% is still a huge number.
which one of you chuds just got banned from guythatdies chat for saying "poo2 bad"
>>567815671>>Shield wall - can no longer shotgunDoes this mean shield wall was doing like 5 times as much damage as it was supposed to be doing?
>>567816325based, guythatdies seems pretty thin-skinned and ban-happy.
>>567816325sorry that was me
>>567816325My bad I didn't mean it
>>567816049gathering storm
>Some items now require you to specialise in them through Atlas Passive Skills including Basic precursor tabletsMan, I am impressively confused by how much they're mangling endgame.. while still keeping the horrible infinite Atlas.
>nothing about the monk ascension>nothing shadow droppedyeah, they're gonna change stuff still
>>567816561But then you need a third skill to stack up combo and the explosions can't shotgun.
>Melee Attacks can now only apply Splash Damage once per damaging areaSo basically, Melee splash damage can only hit a single enemy?What?
>>567816725Martial Artist is going to be busted regardless. The balance of this patch is already a mess
>>567816812it means instead of cleaving 10 mobs and getting 10 extra splash aoe instances you get 1 extra aoe
>>567816563>>567816563>>Some items now require you to specialise in them through Atlas Passive Skills including Basic precursor tabletsWtf?? You have to skill into that shit now ??
>>567816812>>567816893fun detectedinsta nerfed
>>567816049My god damn fists
DID THEY JUST DELETE THE RRECOMBINATOR?
>>567816812Yeah big nerf to rend's clear
Shock Conduction II: Can no longer be obtained.
>>567816812No, it's "can only hit enemies once", to avert recurrent shenanigans with "melee" AoEs getting ridiculous density-dependent damage increases.>>567816957This is not "fun detected, insta nerf", this is the purging of exploits like the Oil Ground Compounding Ignite interaction.
>>567816563That sounds cool to me, it's probably one of the first few nodes you can get, more of a tutorial on how to endgame as well as a GET THE FUCK IN THE FORTRESS RETARD when you finish the campaign.
The jackie chan monk build better be the best in the game, otherwise it won't be.
After unlocking Unique Verisium Runeforging in Act 3 you can upgrade the base type of Unique Weapons and Armours that drop at levels lower than 55. Upgraded Unique Weapons will have higher damage, and Upgraded Armours will have increased base defences as well as Runic Ward. Allowing them to be more competitive at higher levels. Unique Armours above level 55 can still be Runeforged to modify their defences to include Runic Ward at the cost of reducing their other defenses similar to the base types.
>>567816982That's an axe
>>567816917Yeah. No Precursor Tabs at all until you allocate their ability to drop on the Atlas tree.From what I've gathered, it's the same with different mechanics. So no Abyss Tablets until you allocate it in Abyss.Additionally, you can only spawn up to 3 random mechanics per-map. BUT you replace them with guaranteed mechanics per-Tablet you use. So if you put in for example a Deli, Abyss, and basic Precursor Tablet, you will ONLY see Deli and Abyss mechanics in that map.
> "The Recombinator has been disabled. The Omen of Recombination has been removed. Existing Omens of Recombination will be deleted upon logging in." RIP SSF
>>567817004That was too complex for Poo 2 players anyways.
>>567816867The only busted node is the gloves and maybe the runes one if the new stuff is good, the rest are just ok.
>>567815671>Megalomaniac - now always drops identifiedwhy didn't you even include thiswho cares
Skills with a fixed number of projectiles (such as Glacial Lance) can now benefit from effects that cause projectile count modifiers to apply to something else instead (such as Ricochet III Support). AHAHAHHHAHAH FUN DETECTED NERF IT NERF ITaaahhhhh
they are upgrading the recombinator with the league mechanics, idiots
>>567814961Pounce's utility didn't get nerfed, it got the cooldown (spammability) nerfed so that speedrooners can't use it to skip every wall
Regarding coc comet, quick search it seems like normal comet got about a 5% damage nerf, while fire infused comet got about 25% damage nerf. I didn't find anything related to "cast on" or "energy gain", so I guess GGG feels that the leech nerf is sufficient, to which I agree.You have to build mana support for it now, which I think is fair.
>>567817137It's for decoration, I punch you with it...the handle, not the axe part.
>>567817240Huh. Wonder if it works on this. Sounds like the same thing. Fixed number of projectiles skill that targets terrain.
Infernal Legion got triple tapped 50% less dmg at both levels 1 and 2 Level 3 is poof "fixed a bug that caused Infernal Legion to always crit if you had any crit whatsoever"
Area order in Act 3 has been somewhat rearranged in order to make progression smoother.LOGIIIIIN
>>567817381did you really think that shit wouldnt get nerfed
>>567817381It's a miracle they added RF in any recognizable form at all, they clearly don't want afk builds to be strong.
Jackie chan brothers, where you at?
>>567817381Jung The Snitch got Oscrix's build gutted.
Huh. I haven't played since the second league. Did Witchhunter actually become good at some point?
>>567817484watched rush hour last week. it still holds up.
>>567817484im gonna monk but the early staff skills are so shit
>>567817484>faggotlife>1 year agofuck off
>throne and liberty new expansion june 25yep, right about when I'll be done with poo2
>>567817484If you look like a bald chudjak why would you put your face on the thumbnails. Even worse why would you even AI yourself ans still put your face on the thumbnail. Back into my day people like that had some dignity and chibified/cartoonified themselves for their avatars.
I wanna play the expedition ice mace, but I don't think I can get around having to do a full respec once I get it wether I start with maces or wolf, since you need to transition to mana stacker. So I'm thinking might as well start as plants.
>>567817606why in the fuck would you play that
>>567817606>gachashit with horrible horrible"""""gameplay"""" on a treadmillbro
>>567815902>We checked the data>Phys players all maxing out their + to skill levels>Spell players however are not>This must be because + to melee skills is too strong, better nerf it>They could simply be NO OTHER REASON we checked the data ok?
>>567817528It's to counteract the base armour/eva buffs on the bases
>>567817606literally who?
>>567817654it's the only mmo with mass pvp, chuddie, stop being angry
>>567817484>Minion appreciators getting excited over remnants of all thingsThats pretty grim
>>567817810Minions belong TO THE WITCH!
>>567817165And I think mainly that's targeted at getting the Boss difficulty node that increases Powerful Map Bosses level by +1. Normally you always have to run Irrad, now you can replace the Irrad tablet with Overseer tablets when you have that node, but you'll have to fight Difficulty 4 bosses.
>>567817749RoR and GW2Though both have their own problems
Which build is LGBTQ+ friendly?
>>567817919gw2 was alright, but the fact that I can't play my account on steam has made me not play it in 6 years or so
>>567818018ice shot snipe deadeye
>infernalist's infernal flame archon still ass
Why did they design an ascendancy specifically for Twisters and then show off the ascendancy deleting everything with Twisters? What were they thinking?
people legitimately don't know how to think about a game without broken leech, it's such a drastic change to poe that it's unfathomable. Just consider all recovery and resource management completely demolished.
There's a hard cap of 3 charm slots right? You can't get more with thishttps://www.poe2wiki.net/wiki/Bijouborne
>>567818137classic gggshow cool shitmake shit for cool shitdelete everything for that cool shit
china keeps winning
>archon of undeathOdds are it's chaos shit, but it'd be nice if it was minions.
>>567818172Jonathon shouldn't cater to speed running hcssf faggots that are almost guaranteed poe1 players.
>>567818298care to explain for us gweilos?
STILL NO IZARO
>>567818172>tfw never used leech or ES or recoupnever had any problems honestly
>Warriors main leveling skill damage nerfed by 30% and still has a flat skill timer on it so it can never scale well >Warriors only end game skill also nerfed
>no heist>no blight>no labs>no mirage>no bestiary>no swords>no flails>no daggers>no slings>no life stacking>no mana stacking>no armour stacking>no strenght stacking>no dexterity stacking>no intelligence stacking>no fsr 3.1.5>no duelist>no shadow>no templar>no marauderhave they given up on path of exile 2? seems so
>>567818178I hope they do more with charms in the future, more slots, more options.
last time i played I got to maps and only had like 5 support gems, couldn't do anything interesting much less experiment at all. Looked it up online and this is an extremely common problem the company refuses to fix.
>>567818172Totemchads only need 75 spirit
>>567818172Tell 'em, Zaccie
>>567818356国服组队调整- 国服将下调多人组队情况下,整体掉落数量;其他细节将会在远古回响版本上线前揭晓。Chinese server team adjustments- The overall drop rate in multiplayer party situations will be reduced in the Chinese server; other details will be revealed before the Ancient Echoes update goes live.
>>templar was supposed to be in the patch that druid was originally slated to release in before they delayed its release for like 5 months even though they said they only needed like 4-6 more weeks to finish itjonathan lies the second he opens his mouth btw
>>567818419but they didnt nerf earthshatter?
>>567818538Saving everything for 1.0 I wish
>>567818523holy based
>>567818443retard
>>567818523Jonathan?????????? JONATHAN??????????? WHY DO THEY GET ALL THE GOOD SHIT BATHTUB BOY???????????
>>567818538retard
>>567818383They're all for shitters.>t. ES player
>>567818443My guess is that GGG is betting on 1.0.
>>567818459For a second I thought I was being cheeky and found tech for spirit on Shaman for totems.
>>567818523>coomer autolooting pets>party play genocidewhy aren't we playing on china servers, bros?
>>567818523wtf I love china now
>>567818443>no mana stackingYour new mace, sis? We're all playing mana stacker slams and double-dipping with the chest that gives cold thorns damage based on your mana.
>>567818583I'll finally be able to play shadow in 1.0 surely...
>>567818830Why though? New players wont flock to the game with endgame being so convoluted
>>567819034retard
the wiki is such a shitty website for reading ascendencies, have to read them on ninja, they should upgrade the wiki
>>567819073They should have an ingame wiki for everything instead of shitty 3rd party websites
wait does this mean I can't sustain mana with just leech now?
>>567819073Blame them giving every skill its own unique name that needs to be opened in another tab instead of just explaining it on the same tooltip
>Bleed damage on players is no longer increased while the player is moving. This change does not affect bleeds players apply to monsters.
>after 2 years niGGGers make brink a tier 1 support gem>I've been saying this should be the case the moment I saw how stun prep boneshatter worksheh
>>567819073POB is just as shitty. I'm always having to look up what ascendancies do on db
>>567819119nope mana regen is fucked now for everything
>all the complaining "everything is nerfed and dead!!!" posts are ctrl c ctrl v from /v/makes one ponder
>>567819220db is even worse than the wiki, the wiki at least puts everything on a list putting it one tab click away, on db you have to mouse over and then open it putting it 2 clicks away
>GGG announces poo2 as a separate game>leave poe1 to stave for 1 fucking year>big madge>dont buy any more supporter packs, kiwi niggers deserve none anymore>log in 0,1, never leave act 1, cry all the time for stuff to get changed for the worse in game and in the forums>log in 0,2, never leave act 1, cry all the time for stuff to get changed for the worse in game and in the forums>log in 0,3, never leave act 1, cry all the time for stuff to get changed for the worse in game and in the forums>log in 0,4, never leave act 1, cry all the time for stuff to get changed for theworse in game and in the forums>about to log in 0,5, never leave act 1, cry all the time for stuff to get changed for the worse in game and in the forums>watch poo2niggers seethenothing personal Johny, its just pure hatred for retards
>>567819034Poo2 is losing players and GGG knows it. A huge 1.0 update with all ascendancies/weapons might bring more players into the game.
>>567819119>>567819278welcome to the VISION
guyshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_Bi_LLhNuM&pp=ygUFcG9lIDI%3D
>>567819418thats called tourists leaving after being filtered/getting the only broken build they can play nerfed
>>567819418It certainly wont, poe2 was easier to get into than poe1 plus ggg was getting money because its in early acces1.0 will be launched in the same state po1 is currently with an absolute clusterfuck of systems is not a good thing for new players feeling overwhelmed
Everyone is going on about Twister being the most played skill in 0.5 don't realise that there is a very high chance GGG updates the patch notes with a triple tap nerf before launch. The more retards talk about it, the more likely GGG are to notice and take action
This patch was meant to bring back no-life PoE players who just care about endgame. 1.0 is gamerdad city. Jonathan checked the player metrics and realized how massive PoE's playerbase is and wants us to switch over to PoE 2. He basically said this for verbatim in the LegendaryDrop interview.
>>567819357what is this post about
>>567800212how do you deal with big chaos damage as armor
>>567819630The endgame is trash though.
>>567819630>no-life PoE playerswont rake in new players aka new money for ggg though
good threadalso release the patch already, i got nothing good to play, need to feel some friction and grind
Can't wait for PoB to update in 2-3 weeks.
>Varashta>Lightnming spear primal strikes amazonall my builds got nerfed
>>567819690Jonathan said in that very interview that he only cares about the peak playercount in the first few days.
>>567819738then its time for tencend to fire him as jonathans has no long term goals in mind
>>567819656>big chaos damagedoesn't exist, and theres a helm mod that gives you 90% chaos dr since there arent any big chaos hits.
>>567819794retard
>>567819656chaos hits are the lowest damaging hits in the game, and as the other anon said there's a helm suffix on armor bases that helps anyways
>>567820016You can also put like 30% of armour applies to chaos on your shield.
>>567819738Peak playercount drops every league though.
>no new threaduhhhhh poop xisters????? Is this it?
>Corrupting Cry I, Corrupting Cry II: No longer causes the supported skill to inflict Corrupted Blood, but instead it triggers a skill which inflicts Corrupted Blood, scaled by the level of the gem it is socketed into.Someone's going to get level 40 warcries.
>>567820352not even page 10, what's the hurry
>>567820352trueeee, if it isnt on page one, how will we get more new players to our seven year old EA GAASlop thread posted on this super alive and relevant unc forum
why is everyone dickriding twisters so much
dickriding a twister sounds very painful
>>567820664their favorite goytreamer on jewtube told them to
>>567820664speedtrannies have MINDBROKEN 4redd*t.org/vg
so much fuckng POOP
>>567820664because fubgun told me tojust like when he complained about ground loot in poo1 3 months ago.
d4 won
I'm gonna be a CoC twister
d4 won the best scam award
>>567821013I'm twisting my cock alright
>567821065le gemmy alertupdooted!
>running assault nerfedFuck you niggers
varashta seems unnerfed, guess i will do caster now instead of minions
>>567820786for you
>567821171cope shill, only brain damaged retards still give money to actiblizz
>>567821249>lol spellsi wanted to say this but then i remembered that jonatroon said all + to gem levels were getting nerfed but they only nerfed the non spell + gem level lines
>>567798940>>567799408truly astonishing
why do infusions exist instead of just being rolled into the charge system, or vice versawhy do archons exist at allwhy are sources of and uses for each resource so strictly limited
>>567821636>why are sources of and uses for each resource so strictly limitedIf they're hard to use they can be powerful. If they're powerful then they'll feel good to use if you meet their conditions. The issue is a give and take here where they either introduce or consider ways to automate the process and then they have to play whack-a-mole. See: Hexblast
>>567821636i hate infusions so much
>>567821636The Tub calls
Reddit already promoting twister as the OP build with 200+ posts on it lmaoIts gonna get insta nerfed 20h before league start
>>567821427and the same time the preggo-tree can give minion +s on more than what's currently allowed so it might indeed end up being another Ruzhan+Kelari league
>>567821636>does X exist instead of being just rolling into the unrelated Y system if you don't like remnant mechanics don't use them lol
>>567821636Because they want generator - spender mechanics and its variations.>but why those specificallyIt's called throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks.
>>567822009people whining about remnants just don't want to have to walk over a power-up.
so recapphys skills are all nerfedleech is deadmana regen is deades is deadspells are inbetween dead and just aboutwhy is fun not allowed in an early access build?
>>567822009It's just an easy (and lazy) way to do conditionals. Fill a bar, get a big attack. Fighting games have been doing it since the 90s.
>>567821943Is it going to be like that league where LA Deadeye was more than half of all characters
>>567821787>If they're powerful then they'll feel good to use if you meet their conditionsNot really, because if you want to use those resources, you can't do anything except exactly the few things they want you to do.
>>567822009Yet every poe2 league people showed GGG that they want a 1-2 button epxlode everything build I really dont understand jonathan pushing his "combo gameplay" so fucking hard
>>567821943It's going to get bugfixedtwisters isn't other skills, you have to start act 1 and go through parrying and using other skills
>>567822180I think when people actually play it they're going to screech about having to press too many buttons.
>>567821943idc if it one shot all pinnacles in 20s with act 4 ssf grip. its so shit to play
so why did they delete recomb?why did they delete omen of corruption?why did they make vaal orbs just krangle instead of krangledivine?the non-divine on sanctify is good though
>>567822146i explicitly said i would be fine with either charges or remnants being rolled into the other one, howeveri think you're perceiving someone as whining about something, because you can use that as a cue to start whining yourself
why hasn't mageblood been datamined yet
>>567822319>so why did they delete recomb?no relics, expedition is a different mechanic now>why did they delete omen of corruption?too mandatory>why did they make vaal orbs just krangle instead of krangledivine?too random, people only keep good items therefore it made items worse on average. this is a buff.
why does ignite have 20 paragraphs in its help tooltip
i hope twister doesn't get nerfed so i can make bank selling gear for it
>>567822470Because they simplified DoT's for new players :)
who wonned? doomchads or hopesissies? im not reading all the ai slop patch notes btw, so do tell
>>567798940>liedfirst patch notes? lol they've been lying their asses off since I started playing in betrayal, and probably a lot longer than that
>>567822449>no relicsretard
>>567822319>>567822449you are missing the part where the game gonna shit out divines like poo1 does with exalts now
>>567822548You are missing a brain.
Will be playing Twisters spiritwalker until I get Facebreakers, after which I'm switching to Facepalm martial artist
why do so many different socketables and crafting items like idols and essences only work in one or two different specific types of equipment each
Has anyone asked GGG why they keep flooding the game with hundreds of currency units that nobody uses?
>>567822497too latehttps://www.reddit.com/r/PathOfExile2/comments/1tk37z9/we_already_have_a_guaranteed_meta_for_months/400+ updoots and almost 200 postings
>>567822548Wouldn't that cause their price to crash?
as a massive twister enjoyerthis skill and its setup is going to filter and cause most people to reroll on leaguestart
>>567822574>Divine Orbs are now more common.
>>567822360I think the downside of remnants (that you have to walk over them) is on spellcasters on purpose because GGG think ES is too good if you can just off-screen everything. they have no reason to just delete mechanics or start rolling them together.eventually they'll probably just buff them until they're good enough to use.
>>567822423do you even understand where dataminers get the data from
why does witch's starting area in the passive tree change some of its nodes when you're on witch, but not other classes
>>567822602why do you think they've made that vaal orb and sanctification change retardius
>>567822512twisters wonspell levels woneverything else nerfed
>>567822589that's okay, bowcucks are always easy marks
https://www.reddit.com/r/PathOfExile2/comments/1tf4ptk/guys_i_am_from_the_future_2029_and_this_is_what/I want this as an atlas map
>>567822679Huntress and Ranger have the same thing. It's kinda weird that Sorc has a minion ascendancy yet has no minion starting nodes like Witch does.
>>567822679same thing happens with huntress and rangerbecause ggg is incompetent and couldnt design the starting locations properly
>>567822548I'm ssf so I was using them to reroll the number of charm slots on white belts. more is good.
>>567822678no
>>567822616There's honestly nothing to be filtered by it. Even a casual like me could use it and go through the campaign
>>567822814They're pretty good for jewels too.
>>567822702thank you
pathetic
Shield Wall and Boneshatter nerfed, Bows BuffedBetter nerf mace skills next patch bc facebreaker monk is going to be too strong /s
>>567822602Have you not seen what happens to divs every league in Poo 2? They might as well make them drop like candy to fight the ridiculous inflation.
Is there any way to actually make ignite good?
>>567822901I play SSF, so no, I have no idea. I saw them at 120 Exalts in a stream recently. I was thinking lower than that. 120 Exalts by itself is enough to get some really good gear probably.
>>567822885>bows buffedLA got dumpstered and Snipe is worse in campaign. Qrd?
>>567822997They've spiked to thousands of exalts for one div in past leagues. The temple shit out so many divs that they didn't suffer from inflation like usual. I guess they wanted to repeat that.
>>567822930I like my blackflame incinerate build. Only the compounding ignite is good.ED / C for mapping
>>567823179The changes to Blackflame looked compelling. It's finally ticked my boxes for everything I want it to do. I might actually use it if it drops.
>>567823236>>567823236
>>567822930use one skill to guarantee ignite with a bunch of small hits then another skill to apply a big ignite when its guaranteed to apply.
>>567822848anon you don't remember 0.2 do youthat was back when twisters was bugged and actually one shotting everything
>>567823112Snipe can one shot t15 bosses when your only lvl 65 with a campaign bow. Watch fubs stream from like 2 days ago.
>>567814585what was the bug?
>>567823179how do you make incinerate good?
>>567762325furina is in exile ??????????
>>567762325cute mio
