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>Character banners

[5/21-6/25] Makoto Yuki 5*, Kiyoshi Kurotani 4*, Shun Kano 4*, Toshiya Sumi 4*

[4/30-6/4] Manaka Nagao 5*, Shoki Ikenami 4*, Chizuko Nagao 4*, Lufel 4*

>Weapon banners

[5/21-6/25] Deus Xiphos (Makoto Yuki-exclusive) 5*, Translucent Blade (Makoto Yuki-exclusive) 4*, Death Stinger (Kiyoshi Kurotani-exclusive) 4*, Demon's Bite (Shun Kano-exclusive) 4*, Scarlet Scepter (Toshiya Sumi-exclusive) 4*

[4/30-6/4] Angel's Hymn (Manaka Nagao-exclusive) 5*, Divine Muse (Manaka Nagao-exclusive) 4* Mattatóre (Shoki Ikenami-exclusive) 4*, Gravitational Force (Chizuko Nagao-exclusive) 4*, Lava Flame (Lufel-exclusive) 4*

>Guides and resources
Character building:
lufel.net/?lang=kr
lufel.net/?lang=en
Synergy Guide: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gbV0OY_6K579nxUa5FuDcOkbxDc1VJD5ejjq3dkuELs
Banner schedule: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Isx1vTD2ccZrdmtwiNpeJlIYkpExVdzOlbODTLoScoo

>Chat Emoji PNGs
https://mega.nz/folder/zZUkSRID#UHs3AK6fB-rnNy8S3mWKgw

>Guilds (have /vg/ in your profile if you request to join)
Tsumi - 100013554
Motoha Slammers - 100016392
Fun Island - 100030397
Motoha Lovers - 100032970
Waifu Slammer - 100040044
Thanks, Doc! - 100035622
Four Chins - 100055671

General Chat Channel #624
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ange white tights
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Dead game. EoS soon.
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>Baseball prodigy
>Can't even hit the ball after weeks of practice
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Runa butt
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Can i please get Doorkun without hitting pity
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>>567900493
Did you miss the part where she didn’t play for years?
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>>567902352
Did you miss the part where she's young and not susceptible to that?
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>>567900848
gl anon
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Just beat a tartarus run, It's fun desu

Anyone know if the floor limit is higher on cn servers?
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>>567905402
There are 3 different tartarus on TW. The most recent one is "300f" but technically when you go up you choose from one of 3 floors and usually you're normally going up more than like 10-20+ levels. Plus after you reach 300 and beat the boss you can keep going to fight the reaper. That being said I haven't really played the mode much on TW outside of the bare minimum for events. I still need to catch up with my palaces on TW first.
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>>567905829
Oh yeah and in that tartarus the floors have different modifiers attached to them which makes your choice relevant. When Fuuka gets added she also starts with 100sp and can be activated to do various things like find rare shadows or such. It's worth noting the first tartarus's skill tree is limited to that mode and more skill nodes unlock with each update I think there's a whole left side of the tree
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>>567905829
Sounds neat, I guess this is what they meant with the game picking up actual steam

Metro is desire is a steaming pile of shit compared to tartarus because you actually have to use your brain for a change, especially now with the mostly 4 star roster and limited buffers

>>567906154
Sounds engaging, hope it doesn't become a slog tho
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>>567904297
How did you react when you learned you were making her an E-Thot?
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>>567906496
Tartarus really is metro but better. I got fucked up by [the boss] when I tried to beat him once but I'd need to actually give the mode a better try to determine how good it is. One thing to note is I'm pretty sure all SEES members have unique A7s you can only get in that mode which is fun. I've only tried Makoto's on global though and it was a little lame. Still a cool bonus though.
>slog
Well after Akihiko we have 5 patches without any P3R content before they come back with the second Tartarus which I don't remember exactly how it changes it but it's different and we take a break in the meantime.
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>>567902352
You don't lose muscle memory, just skill.
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>>567902843
Holy shit, posting about it actually worked, got him in 60 pulls. Now can i please get his weapon without the 50/50 screw over
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>>567907048
Metro of desire is just a text dump and it gets very boring very fast IMHO
It feels more satisfying to rush through tartarus and milk shuffle times
Tbh I did not really understand it much because of the s-lvl system but it clicks now, I was wondering why the 10th floor boss only took double digit damage
>I was hoarding willpower instead of spending it
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>>567907675
Yeah you gotta use dawn fragments to recover will or upgrade you main dps then supports. Any willpower below a certain amount and most of your stats get reduced by 90%. There's actually a challenge to beat the tower with this debuff too lol so it's not like metro with it's baby shit challenges. There's also missions for beating it with certain characters A6'd like fox/queen/joker etc and the rewards are nice because you get a couple of awareness fragments. I also like using the artifact that gives you +10 will at the start plus reduces will losses from fights by 1
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>>567907418
>>567902713
>10 years since she last played baseball
She has the batting form but her accuracy definitely plummeted
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>>567907418
That’s 100% not true
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>>567906559
Very turned on.
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>>567907418
>you dont lose muscle memory
>but you lose muscle
>and memory
>and skill
>and form
>after 10 years
>but not muscle memory
You're a smart guy, anon.
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>>567909092
>>567909139
>>567912871
Found the fat retards that haven't played any sports.
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>>567912916
Do you think athletes train practically every day just for the sake of it?
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>>567913683
Do you understand how the human body works?
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>>567914289
no
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SHOKIIIIII
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>>567914289
Listen dumbass, the point of "muscle memory" in this scenario is that it becomes easier to regain whatever state you had when you stopped training. This is why short breaks arent damning to athletes.
But here's the thing, Motoha took a massive break and her body would have changed significantly between 7 and 17. She would also have to recondition herself to timings among other things in the batting cage.
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>>567914289
Substantially better than you
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>>567915425
>>567916501
>>567917108
Go pick up a football or something, niggers. Just absolutely ignorance.
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https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/articles/muscle-memory
How long does muscle memory take to come back?
The amount of time it takes varies from person to person. Having previously learned a skill means that you could significantly reduce your relearning time. The knowledge of the skill is in your brain, but your muscles need retraining to get in shape again.

For example, if you played basketball regularly but stopped playing at the end of a season, you’ll still be able to pick up a basketball and shoot hoops in your free time. Your brain still remembers how to play and your muscles still have the myonuclei within previously trained muscle cells. You still have the motor memory that allows you to pick up the ball and dribble it. But your speed and accuracy may not be where it used to be without practice.

Many factors go into the amount of time you’ll need to get back into physical shape, including:
How much time you took off.
Your general health.
Your physical activity level.
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>>567900493
Must be that Motoha isn't a mary sue. Riko would've hit that.
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BTW this game makes Yukari the canon girlfriend.
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>>567917274
>>567917597
https://ostrovit.com/en/blog/muscle-memory-what-is-it-and-how-does-it-affect-breaks-in-training-1684829005
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In sports, the idea that an athlete can truly “lose” muscle memory after years away is overstated to the point of being misleading. While conditioning, timing, and confidence may temporarily decline, the underlying motor patterns developed through repeated practice do not simply vanish. They remain embedded in the nervous system, ready to re-emerge once the athlete resumes training. Muscle memory is not a fragile skill that disappears with time; it is a durable imprint created by thousands of repeated movements.

An athlete who has spent years learning how to shoot a basketball, swing a bat, throw a punch, serve a tennis ball, or skate with balance does not return as a complete beginner. Their body still understands the rhythm, mechanics, and coordination of the movement. The first few sessions back may feel awkward, but that awkwardness is not proof of lost muscle memory. It is merely rust. Rust can be removed; true ability cannot be erased so easily.

This is why former athletes often regain competence far faster than someone learning from scratch. Their movements may lack sharpness at first, but the foundation is still there. The body remembers angles, weight shifts, footwork, grip pressure, and timing cues in ways that conscious thought often cannot fully explain. Years away from a sport may weaken performance, but they do not destroy the map the athlete has already built.

To claim that muscle memory can be “lost” misunderstands what it is. Muscle memory is not the same as being in game shape. It is not the same as peak reflexes, endurance, or competitive readiness. Those things can fade. But the learned movement itself remains. Once deeply trained, the body retains a permanent advantage over the untrained body.

In that sense, muscle memory is one of the most reliable forms of athletic knowledge. Time may dull it, neglect may bury it, and age may slow its expression, but it does not disappear.
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>>567917274
Anon the biomechanics from a 7 year old and a 17 year old are fundamentally different. Even if you retain perfect muscle memory (which despite the neuroplasticity shills, you don’t) you cannot perform the sports actions the same way because if you did they wouldn’t work.
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Cock and ball torture (CBT)[a] is a sexual activity involving the application of pain or constriction to the male genitals. This may involve directly painful activities, such as genital piercing, wax play, genital spanking, squeezing, ball-busting, genital flogging, urethral play, tickle torture, erotic electrostimulation, kneeing, or kicking.[1] The recipient of such activities may receive direct physical pleasure via masochism, emotional pleasure through erotic humiliation, or knowledge that the play is pleasing to a sadistic dominant.
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>>567918318
Do you magically forget to play an instrument you practiced for years as a child?
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Guys if we’re gonna AI post can’t you like… post Motoha’s huge ass (maybe getting spanked??) instead?
That feels more productive
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>>567918496
Personally I'm more into Motoha's thighs
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Anyone know how to access the "distorted adventure" in TW? The phrasing makes it sound like some sort of rogue lite mode or something because bonding with joker lets you use a higher level awareness trial version of him yet I can't find it anywhere
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>Don't go swimming for a decade
>Get thrown in the water
>Instantly drown because all my muscles and skill are gone
This is what you fags sound like.
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>>567918425
1 - fine vs gross motor skills
2 - yes, you would be substantially worse at it, and would have to relearn and retrain a ton to get back to your childhood proficiency level. As is the case with Motoha!
You’re also still going to be coming in with the portion of music theory which you haven’t forgotten - reading sheet music and understanding keys as basic examples - that you would have had to spend time memorizing as a child, and that do have impacts on performance
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>>567919038
You won't forget how to swim but you will be noticably worse than you were 10 years ago until you train. How difficult is this for you to grasp?
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Okay, but when you take into consideration that Yukari charges 3 highlight bars at once, it just makes sense she doesn't immediately trigger Theurgy, right?
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>>567919795
Yukari will likely be buffed on release. It’s difficult to say
And she can definitely take three “bars” at the same time. She’s that kind of “support” unit
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>>567919773
Motoha can't even hit a single ball, Anon. It's the equivalent to not being able to stay afloat when swimming.
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>>567920079
No it isn’t.
Have you considered that hitting a pitch at speed is one of the most difficult individual tasks in all of sports (this is by percentage btw)
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>>567920079
No. Motoha being able to retain her general form is the equivaleng of staying afloat.
Actually being able to hit the ball and eventually landing a home run is a completely different ball game. That is a matter of timing.
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>>567920452
Damn I must be a baseball prodigy then since in grade school I could hit a pitch within a week of practicing.
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Tomoko gets fucked by pigs
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>>567920079
This nigga aint never been to a baseball game.
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>>567920724
Yeah Anons here who have never touched a bat in their life thinks it takes years of practice to just hit one ball, from a former professional level prodigy no less. This place is a shithole.
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>>567920724
When thrown by an elementary schooler
Not at highschool competition-level speed
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>>567921180
>>567920724
Why do you respond to yourself
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>>567920724
NTA but I dont know why you have it up in your fucking craw over Tomoko/buttslut from Motoha's slink/Kiuchi's story all saying that Motoha was an excellent player in grade school.
Even when Motoha tells what's her face in SL17 that she cant hit the balls decently anymore, it was pretty much waved off as "your baseball senses are still there, I'll be waiting for you to regain them".

Knowing your retarded ass, you'd probably say that she was a mary sue because she was capable of beating someone who constantly trained for 10+ years with just a couple weeks worth of training.
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>>567921220
She was easing back into it at the batting cages. There is no point in continuing this discussion if you think those automatically pitch at MLB levels.
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>>567919024
Its either that portal looking icon in the phone menu right below your thieves and velvet room shortcut or its on the p5dancing event tab up top next to contracts and the shop and such
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>>567921489
>Random Tomo seethe out of nowhere
That explains everything, really.
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>>567921978
>Mention Tomoko
>Brain turns off and ignores the rest of the post
This general really is filled with drooling retards huh
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Please keep in mind that this whole conversation is just an extension of the one schizo who keeps sperging out about Aran/Shoki/Riko - which is also just an extension of that guy not liking Makoto.
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Just another riddlechairtranny meltdown
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When it comes down to it
It’s still just Sumischizo
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When it comes down to it
It’s still just T-Schizo
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Basically, fuck you if you’re ESL and/or mentally ill.
Seriously go die
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Tomotoha schizo has never picked up a bait in their life.
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I cant wait to use these on... ummmm... uhhhhhhhhhhhh
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>>567923371
Motoha doesn’t have a schizo thobeit, it’s just Tomokofag
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Pulling Yukari
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>>567923458
BUI A3!
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>>567921140
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>>567924256
>>567929204
Unironically for me it will be my Bui A3
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>>567923458
Gonna hoard them until Mont Sexo gets added to the pool.
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>>567930267
Based
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Damn, they really did give Shoki the best awakening yet
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>waifu slammers monitors, screens, and kicks people daily for not attacking on day 1 or having too low of scores
>Not even top 100
>Other casual /vg/ guilds like motoha slammers who let any shitter in are top 100

lol
lmao
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>>567935005
How do you know all this?
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>>567935046
It's /p5x/ lore.
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What do I reroll for and pull for? There's too many banners.
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Just started the game is got makoto Yuki on my first pull. Should I pull more copies or move on to a different banner? The only character I care about having is Aigis but shes not in the game yet I think
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Is getting Makoto without having Ange a brick? Dont think i can get both since i got Twins A1 and weapon
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>>567936230
Different banner if you just started. A1 twins (meaning you’ll need to pull them and a copy) is one of the best units if you want to move to that, Ange is extremely good as well and used with Makoto.
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How important is the navigator party member? Would that one thats currently up be a good pull or would the 4 star ones be enough
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>>567937143
You will want a 5* one and Ange, the one currently up, is extremely good. Arguably the best navigator even on CN.
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Im tired of the twinks, when are we getting the CHAD?
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>>567937221
Is one copy enough or do you need multiple to make her good

>>567938136
Remember the gay romance with yosuke they cut from the game
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>>567936603
The current Makoto meta team uses Fuuka, not Ange. But Fuuka and Koro is like a year away so.
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>>567935046
Because he got kicked like 10 months ago and even though the leader stopped being autistic and kicking for those reasons almost right after, he's still seething and posts his copypasta every now and then.
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I have A1 Twins, A0 Ange and A0 Makoto. Who's weapon do I work towards? Pretty sure I'll only be able to get one (prob none) without spending gems on it.
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>>567938792
I mean the guild leader admitted he was kicking people for not attacking immediately, so it's not some Anons lying. Personally I don't understand this autism since none of the guilds are top 10 anyways.
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>>567938886
I’d say Twins personally
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Holy aura
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>>567939463
The Chosen One!
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>add like 20 fucking songs to the thieves den when you can only play one at time
>only add 3 to the BGM menu

Why.
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>>567938136
If his S3 isn't Thunder God Dance, then he's worthless.
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>>567939757
Variation.
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Mary sue
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Okay, I know.
They added a new Confidant that increases gun damage and lets your reload every 1/2 turns.

They're going to add another form of character upgrading- Guns. You're gonna have to say A?R?G? instead of A? or A?R?.
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The Japanese server is fucked. Some people are getting free copies of Makoto's weapon.
https://x.com/okometabenai0/status/2057926503409824172
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>>567907048
I disagree. Metro has build variance, Tartarus doesn't. Also the optimal way of play is to FULL CLEAR every fucking floor with 0 thoughts put into.

It's really not good. Extremely simplistic and samey, with the only way of changing things up would be using different chars. But right now you basically only have bricks and Makoto Yuki, who even has an exclusive A7 in this mode...
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>>567937143
Consider that you will always use a navigator for all of your content.
This is not the case for DPS (which generally have to be specific to the element they're put up against), Supports (who have to match the DPS you're using), and Sustain (who generally you want to use as little as possible unless you absolutely need them).
If you only have 1 good navigator, you will be using that navigator for Everything! And there is a big gap from the 5* navigators and the 4* navigators - it's something like this:
(Fuuka) = Ange >>> Futaba >>>>> Phoebe (only really works at a high level with mono-element teams) >> Wind >>>>>> Puppet and Okyann
So Ange and Futaba at this point are substantial improvements to your team
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Why is my stamina going up to 264 instead of 240 now?
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>>567945696
Lucky them.
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>doing the P3 event
>every single cutscene is just makoto staring at yukari
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Okay /p5x/, serious question.
Should I spend pulls on Ange right now?
I already have J&C A1, Makoto, and Makoto.
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>>567946926
thieves den log in bonus stamina
>>567948138
shes probably the best character in the game so yeah id got for it if you like her
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>>567948138
Let me put it that way.
This image is from the 4.0 stream where she was globally introduced. Not an edit, not an shitpost, exactly what was shown by the official devs.

Says more than enough.
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>>567945914
Skipping small fights is worth it if your will gets too low. The problem with other characters is that the final boss is a single target boss so sweepers struggle. Metro didn't really have builds either it was mainly just sweeper vs assassin
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so who is it?
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>>567951981
Someone said the devs claimed it was "music related but also not music related" but I think most people assume it would logically be Elizabeth who doesn't fit that bill given her model exists so they don't have to waste time on making new ones
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>>567952141
isn't P3 Dancing just because Liz wanted Door to have a fun time so she created a timeloop or whatever? or was that PQ
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>>567951649
It did. Agony was working. You could make a healing nuke build. You could make a shield nuke build. You could rely on the different gimmick of the respective train.
There was a lot of different shit you could go for, and based on what RNG gives you early you could decide on.

I feel like willpower never really goes low enough for you having to care about it. You can refresh it super easily with these thingies they throw at you like crazy, and there's no need to not do so, because the only other use is dupes which you get to max easily anyways of the char that matter like pic related.
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>>567952381
Well one run I was pretty unlucky I guess because I had to start dodging small enemies. I do spend dawn fragments on allies upgrades though because relying on drops to max characters is unreliable. I can't speak much on future tartarus because I haven't really played it much.
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>>567951981
初音ミクです。
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Do the twins appear on super rerun banners on global?
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>>567951981
Chord, but fat
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>>567952693
So far they haven't.
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>>567952901
I'm tempted to go A2R0 (currently A1R0) because I like them. I could always wait for 1.5 anni to see if they appear on a super rerun for us after it's officially been 6 months since the twins release.
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If the anni unit turns out to be Hastroonie Miku what would her global buff even be? Or would they avoid having one given that it's a collab even though it's a self collab?
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my first tart run I got to the samurai boss that had 7.5m hp and mutliple life barsand two adds 1.5m hp each

i dont know what i was meant to do but i did not do enough dmg
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Is A2 Ange or A0 P3MC more worth? The revive on Ange looks pretty nice and I'm not really planning on getting the other P3 characters
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>>567952705
hey I know this one
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>>567955589
Makoto is great at A0 for a long time and you can definitely use him without P3 characters he'll just be less effective but still great. A2 Ange is more niche imo
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>>567955738
Is his SSR weapon super required or is he serviceable with his SR?
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>>567955836
Oh nah is 4* weapon is pretty decent actually. He doesn't need his 5* at all. The main thing you lose out on is crit rate but you can make it up with cards. Makoto is great because he's really budget like that.
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>>567956105
It's worth noting that his 4*'s buff has 1005 uptime because I believe moon phases or that "entrusted hope" counts has giving buffs
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>>567956170
100% btw does anyone know if there's any substitutes for Marian's debuff removal for that one astrolabe node?
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>>567956960
never tried using it since I have marian but ange s2 maybe? Although using ange on that node kinda feels bad...
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How the fuck can you do actual damage to the mannqeuin on the 16th floor? Even with an runthrough solely with offensive buffs is it still a sponge.
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>>567957654
>removes 1 debuff
I need to remove like 4 debuffs a turn and even if wonder removes one it's kind of fucked
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Who do you bring in Tartarus?
>Regular
Joker
Queen
Fox
Door
Marian
Vino
Leon
Shun
Mampo Soup/Lufel/Morgana
>Navi
Wind
Phoebe
Puppet
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>>567958020
Okay I found it Dekunda removes 1 stat debuff from all allies maybe that will work
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>>567958180
I just bring whoever my main dps of choice is plus various buffers to choose from. Sometimes I bring a sub dps
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>>567958020
you just need to remove it for your big damage turn don't you? I think it's good enough if you use something like a Haru team and then double up on her burst
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>>567958373
The debuff stacks onto the enemy though if you remove it so ill try Dekunda first
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Okay did it with Joker+Leon+Shoki+Ange with Dekunda. Shoki and Wonder died half way through though but intimidation debuffing the enemy counted towards powering up jokers skill 3 I think
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Does anyone know what determines the turn order if the units are both the same speed? I thought it was party position but sometimes when I swap them it doesn't work like if wonder matches them
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>>567958180
makoto seems like the best choice here, theres even a card meant for characters that hit multiple times too and marian is likely second best here keeping everyone topped up, the 3rd slot can be used by either key for more fire amp or granny since she will have her 5 star you can combo her with throne who adds a burn automatically so that any single target fights start with 3 elemental debuffs then get the 4th using her s1 which will activate huge defence down
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>>567959879
Does one have a decimal amount of speed shown on their character detail screen but not on a summary screen? That could cause a discrepancy.
Also, is one of the characters Twins Strategist? The +5 speed they get from their passive acts kinda screwy, doesn't show up in stats/party turn order preview, but then impacts turn order normally.
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>>567960164
Yeah, every run basically boils down to build around whichever Makoto you get first + Marian in the last slot. Riko is the best navi due to Priestess jank as AoA damage lets you get around Shaken/Lost for those challenges.
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>>567960308
I'll have to check next time but there are instances where both characters will show as 3rd but the order doesn't matter. It wasn't the twins because I think their speed buff applies in game which is why they are different.
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>Big Tartarus Mastery passive skill tree
>Browse the tree, plot out the path I plan to upgrade in
>Complete one (1) full Tart run after the tutorial run
>Take a bunch of tart coin passives in my one first run
>Now have enough coins to unlock the entire tree but ~5 defense/health nodes
Did I just have a very good silver coin run, or is the mastery tree waaay too cheap to max out? If I do another run like that, I will be able to max out all the antique level upgrades then have nothing the upgrade for any future runs.
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>>567960748
It was kinda funny how cheap it is in practice. Two full runs to max out the tree, then spend the rest on antique upgrades. After that just hoard for the next tower.
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>>567960748
It's very cheap. I just checked the TW side and it looks like nodes cost like 1/3 of the price on global. Like the nodes at the base of the tree are 100 but I'm pretty sure it was like 35 on global. I haven't done a real run on TW though so I'm not sure if they earn more coins or whatever. Maybe I'll give it a spin to check. It seems like the devs tried to remove the grind and with the fact they give players the passive speed/destroy objects buff at the beginning I'm being pumped with hopium that we're going to be 2 weeks post anni
>next tower
The upgrade tree is exclusive to this tower but TW has 139 nodes instead of 69.
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>>567952232
>P3D
Sorta but also no
>PQ
Nope that’s about dead children
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>>567951981
Surely its Kotone the femc of p3 when her persona, Orpheus, is shaped like a harp. Its also the patch inbetween 2 dancing and 2 summer characters for china so they cant get mad at too many Tartarus patches in a row.
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https://www.tumblr.com/persona-game-info/817214592633749504/questions-and-answers-from-the-character-ama
>Questions and answers from the character AMA hosted on the official P5X Twitter account for Miyu Sahara
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>The official Japanese Twitter account held a poll for a few days starting on May 8th: “Which voice line would you rather hear, Manaka scolding you, or Manaka comforting you?” The “Manaka comforting you” option won with 53% of the vote, and on May 12th, they posted a video with her saying the line (video in link).
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>>567945696
>"accidentally" give JP players free shit
This is blatantly intentional.
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My first real run of TW first tartarus. One of the big differences is there's more bosses like at the end they gave me an option to fight an extra boss and it was the monorail boss with the timer. Compare this to Global and you can see tartarus is way grindier on TW.
>>567968949
I saw a Japanese guy post himself getting 3 makoto weapons he didn't roll for and he replied to a comment saying "i'll report it to the support team so they can remove it" lmao
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>>567969214
Is it just me or is this heavily discounted on global? I feel like they were between 1-5 coins each but TW is between 5-20. More proof that they streamlined the mode/reduced the grind.
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>>567970106
Upgrade cost from level 2 to 3 for this antique is a whole 1000 silver coins when I believe it was 300-500 on global.
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>>567970391
sorry last one for now but it seems like the Chariot card was nerfed on global because it reduces theurgy/highlight speed by 50% whereas on TW it seems to not do that
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Peace status?
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I had a dream that Kotone is the anniversary unit, so take that as you will
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>>567972132
Haven't taken it yet because -50% theurgy is so fucking bad.
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>>567973512
Yeah it fucks up rotations but I'm guessing they meant for it to be paired with theurgy related buffing cards. Also when they add Yukari it might be worth it.
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Nobody likes P3P Kotone besides trannies.
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I hope it's Elizabeth
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>>567973992
True but it might be even worse and turn out to be Hatsune Miku
>>567974096
Me too it would make the most sense
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>>567974202
I highly doubt it’s Hatsune Miku since she was in P4D
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>>567974848
Yeah I hope not plus it'd be a waste of resources modeling her
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It'll be Metis as she was in all the dancing games as a secret event but didnt get to be in them as a dancer.
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Nobody likes P3 besides trannies.
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>>567977228
Well that'd be kinda boring
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>>567977614
I mean shes got a cool weapon and persona
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>>567974096
Me too, though I'm low on gems so I also hope it's not.
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>>567977228
Metis is also on the album covers for their soundtrack
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Also the awnser is the latest p3 reload thing so would make sense to push it
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Elizabeth + Twins + Margaret for mono Almighty team...
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>>567978363
everyone heres praying for the best toaster to be added
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>>567978790
vro your Akechi?
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>>567979067
The dream team of Aigis, Metis, and Lybris
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>>567977260
P3 is considered by most fans to be the best entry in the series though
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>>567945696
!!! DAMAGE CONTROL !!!

YOU KNOW SHIT IS BAD WHEN THEY'RE BEING GENEROUS
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>>567979067
But Labrys is best toaster.
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>>567979972
I've seen like 5 posts so far of Japanese players getting 2-5 extra deus xiphos.
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>>567979972
Wait is global getting these too holy shit
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>Free R6 Makotos
>Free Ange/Twins
This is a desperate attempt to drive up spending before the Anni.
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>>567981192
Those five to six documented instances is jewels for everyone overall.
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>>567981917
No. Fuck you gaijin.
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>>567982102
Man I wish they'd fucked our servers up instead but then again given how global has been treated they probably would have just said "yeah you'll be back anyways lel"
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Maybe the devs will give this to everyone because they're super cool and generous and treat it as a surprise anni gift
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>>567979972
For more explanation. JP servers accidently had a rollback performed which screwed up people's accounts.
and then they tried to correct it, then some people got the account fixed + extra dupes / weapons
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>>567982658
Japanese "code"
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Nice
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Kek, they screwed up real bad
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>>567983164
I saw that screenshot and the dude said he was reporting it to sega so they could remove it
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>>567982658
I'm sure it was all a mistake.
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I am sorry, but what am i playing? Literally a cutscene of some hag licking her lips when a 16y old boy surrenders to her.
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>>567983989
Kino I hope for lolidom next
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>>567983989
I wish I was recording during that, I wanted to make a webm of it.
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>>567973512
>>567973661
Justice is so strong that even with the gain penalty, I still melted bosses. You collect a gorillon sword cards by the end too
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>>567983989
You're seeing the sexual fantasies of Japanese men.
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>>567979972
It'd be hilarious if next dev stream they talk about the compensation and wave it in front of the rest of global's faces
>>567982849
Did you get all 3 characters and their weapons or was it just a selector with character and one weapon?
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Tartarus is pretty fun, actually.
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>>567986839
Always has been
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>>567983989
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FUCK THIS NIGGER!!!
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>-100 Will Tartarsauce Run
How? What team comp could possibly survive and win at that? Any videographic content I could peruse regarding completing this achievement?
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>>567987465
Some people are using overheal major arcana teams where you focus into max hp healing and defence
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>>567987465
>>567987691
Overheal or build for knockdowns with High Priestess + Riko.
On the way up, all you have to do is just stack defensive boosts and wand cards during the last block because you'll be strong enough to OHKO all non boss fights.
Of course Minami is mandatory, the other two are up to you.
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>>567987286
>Riko, Twins and Queen...
Bench Riko for the A6 Vino that you probably have by now.
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>>567987465
Start the final boss at -90 will
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>>567987465
luckily for you i made another video about it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbqvjq-SKho
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>>567988492
That's like my 4th team, nothing fucking works. My only assassins are Makoto and Makoto, the nigger is resistant to both.
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No more trailer vids for the main story?
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>>567988752
I beat him using a Makoto team, but barely. Oddly enough I had more luck using Joker, Chord, Twins Medic, and Ange.
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>>567988752
I'm pretty sure I never even used a single target character I used my Haru sweeper team lmao
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Riddle or Leon for buffing makoto in tartar sauce?
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>>567990258
Leon
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>>567990258
if using both makotos, riddle
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is tartarus a temporary thing or can I do it after the event?
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>>567991761
Permanent
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>>567991761
It's permanent but there's some event quests tied to it that need to be done before the event ends
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>>567990258
Riddle is a 5* which makes her much harder to max out in Tartarus
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>>567990485
Using door kun with a buffer (so Leon or riddle) and a sustain because I dislike dying
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I love Motoha and we're getting married
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>>567992548
the real wonder would never say that
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>>567993274
He (i) would absolutely say that and has already
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>>567992548
Weird, because Wonder married Shun in my timeline
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>>567993836
Persona is for straight men so that's fake. He marries Haruna btw
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>>567992548
He marries Tomoko
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>>567994357
Nobody marries that loser
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should i get ange a6?
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>>567994972
My Wonder is named Nobody
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>>567995389
Tomoko ends up alone and dies alone. In every time line ever
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>>567995370
What do you have her at right now? Personally I think only whales should A6, for everyone else it’s better to invest in multiple characters instead.
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>>567995370
A6 is only for whales or for people who want to brick their account for a character they love
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>>567995370
if youre gonna get one a6 thats probably the one to get with how good it is, just depends if youre fine with spending that much money/jewels on it. the only thing itll really do is give you higher scores in sos and nightmares gateway if ranking high matters to you, everything else you can still do without her a6 but with it till just be faster
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>>567995370
If you care about the guild mode and have the money, sure. You'll guarantee yourself top 1% every cycle, as long as you get every newly released support at A0
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>>567995543
shes at a1 rn
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>>567995635
i more of wanna use her as a crutch for bricked characters such as a0 crow or a0 messa
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>>567996243
thats a shit reason to pull her, shes not gonna save them. You're better off just getting A0s of newer characters or pulling dupes of them on reruns, crows specifically are very good
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>Double Sweeper/Assassin again
Who to run?
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>>567996583
It's too account specific. Experiment with your roster. There is more score to be had on Makoto side, so him with your best assassin preferably Sweeper Twins for access to Fire/Ice highlight, and a good buffer like Turbo/Riko.
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>>567996243
thats isnt a bad idea imo, itll help you future proof older characters you like if you dint have much interest in future ones. the main thing is are you spending money to get her a6 or just jewels? if its just jewels and maybe it means skipping some characters that you dont really like then maybe you can go for it but if moneys involved id say it probably isnt worth it but its up to you ofc. also im not sure how well ange’s extra turns help characters like crow who scales with the main dps’ attack and messa whos a dot damager but shes so universal and good that it might not matter much anyway for any character
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I've only done one of each, but low Will Tartarus runs seem way easier than trying to keep your Will high. Even with -150 Will, I'm dealing fucking huge amounts of damage to the final boss.
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>>567996335
i like crow but i dont like him enough to a6 him to make him decent, he is pretty shit before a6. if i a6 ange i could just use any a0 unit pretty well with her and another a6 support, maybe its weird that i like crutching units like that, i dunno.
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>>567998398
Is he even good at A6?
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>>567997035
money, i never save because i pull every unit at a0 for collection purposes at the very least
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>>567998541
good but not meta from what i've heard
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>>567998541
He is very good at A6. He's basically a more balanced version of the Twins obviously not as good. He gives good party wide buffs, some def shred, does good damage etc.
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>>567998673
Where the fuck are you hearing that? He's very meta at A6.
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>>567998541
lufel says he's like t2 instead of t3 at A6 lol
>>567998567
Well as far as Ange goes she's pretty future proof but if you're spending money it's up to you really. As far as Navis go she's still #1 on CN so if she gets powercrept it'd probably take the release of 2 navis to do that. If you also care about guild boss assuming we eventually get 3 raids it'd take even longer for her to be pushed out of meta.
>>567998943
Nta but I heard he was only meta on a team of A6s not by himself
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>>567998541
Scales with your other dps. If you have a6 on both then yes hes great
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so i got her to a6 but lufel says i need her at 6440 atk now, is that true? do i just neglect every other stat and get her to that atk?
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>>567999669
Yeah the skill levels increase so their cap does too. Just refine the weapon a few times. Or get better cards.
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>>567999669
Yeah her buffs scale with attack so as the other Anon said you can just get better cards and be fine. Make sure you do her mindscape too while you're at it.
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>>567999669
Nigga casually spent $1000 on a unit and won't even read her kit.

And yes that's right. Max out her mindscape and hit that ATK cap for her Skill 3, then get as much Crit Mult as possible. Moving forward characters will be less hungry for pierce so lean towards crit rolls in general.
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>>567999903
>>568000067
>>568001636
gotchu, thanks bwos
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btw is there a way to paypig these or do i just farm the domain on auto?
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>>568002680
Just farm the domain, I mean you can paypig that since you can just use a bunch of coffees
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>>568002954
i know but they just give 90x per run and it feels like a chore
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>>568003040
Well eventually you can earn instant sweep tickets like on CN but yeah it's mainly just something you get from the node. You might be able to exchange them for coins in the thieves den too
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>>568003336
i hope we catch up with CN soon, seems like they always have the cool shit we lack
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>>568003470
Same the fact they reduced the grind in tartarus for global along with other things has me hoping we keep 2 week patches after the anni so we can rapidly catch up with CN. Given how the devs often acknowledge how the lack of content can bore people I'd like to believe they're smart enough to maintain this pace rather than slowing us to a crawl when the global devs don't have to create anything to begin with
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>>568003728
That’s why I’m always confused on the livestreams when they’re talking like they did anything, because as far as I’m aware all they have to do mainly is translate and record the jap voices
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>>568003987
Well I think the Japanese writers took over starting at the third palace but even then the Japanese voices were recorded a while ago and they wrote the story a while ago too and just had the CN side model it and such. Other than QOL stuff here and there they don't do much except find new ways to short hand us like no soft pity, nerfing google play, nerfing vpns lol
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does this make dps wonder viable or is makoto still the best?
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Huh, no Persona has Heat Raiser/Luster Candy yet?
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>>568006152
Have you ever done an astrolabe node where Wonder gets +60% attack? Does he actually outdamage your DPS there? Same comparison here.
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beated difficulty 3 with brosuke. Only have nijima,2 rare spawn, and a few other missions left.

>>568006152
You can stack that tower with like 4 rare cards that buff him to make him do decent damage, but I haven't been able to get them all yet.
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>>568006673
You have A6 Yusuke?
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>>568006152
You need to wait for the lovers card to be added and combine that with the tower and related card buffs for it to be somewhat viable
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>>568007020
In tartarus, everyone can be A6.
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>>568007020
Tartarus is a roguelite mode where you start with no characters but you can get dupes from shuffle time until your run ends. It lets you play with higher awareness characters you don't normally have.
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>>568007464
Is it CW in HSR then?
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>>568007834
I don't play hoyoslop so I wouldn't know. It's like metro of desire but with the elements I described.
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I keep killing everything I see like a jew and I run out of will
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>>568008828
That's why you use the antique that reduces will taken by battles and use dawn fragments on will. Honestly will doesn't matter too much so long as it isn't -100
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>>568008072
Ah sounds boring then. I dropped metro after 5 runs lol
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>>568009515
It's an improved formula and they add more bosses and cards over time. Global heavily reduced the grind for resources though compared to CN
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x3 speed isn't enough for tartarus, I spend 50min in a single battle
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>>567951649
>Metro didn't really have builds either it was mainly just sweeper vs assassin
???
You could shield up and heal up for those, then yes there's raw stats and buffs, but one of the easiest was Agony + Makoto though since it could kill Metro's biggest cockblocks like multi-life Yamata through multiple lives.
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any upcoming fun characters?
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>>568011392
Berry is pretty fun
>>568011150
It just doesn't take much thinking. You can very easily put together a winning build whereas Tartarus is more difficult and requires more planning especially if you're not just bringing the busted p3r units.
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>>568011392
summer puppet maybe
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>>568007834
>Is it like this shit from this shit game
Thank god isn't like whatever this shit is.
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>>568012709
you sound mad
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>>568012825
I think you should go back to your shitty general.
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i wish messa wasnt so shit, i love his va
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>>568010851
You better watch out for the bonus monorail boss with the 30 minute timer then!
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>>568013060
Are we getting the High Pristess boss in the next patch?
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>>568013030
Don't worry his sister with an identical kit will be powerful because she's a woman and straight dudes will Ay Sex Ar Sex her
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>>568013223
most waman voices sound really identical in jp tho which is boring, messa for example sounds unhinged as fuck in his ripper mode, give me a female who has similiar aura to that
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>>568013220
I don't know when it was added because I barely did tartarus and I joined at berry but I believe so. I imagine they'll add the other side of the skill tree that requires mats from the hardest difficulty plus more shuffle time cards like lovers etc. The best upgrade on the left side is probably the "no more orange will walls" perk
>>568013498
Don't worry his sister will be Tsurugi from blue archive
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>do one run of Tartarus
>complete it easily
kusoge roguelike
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>>568012709
Seething
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Whats the release schedule for the P3 cast? I only care about Mitsuru and Koro, maybe Aki
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>>568018460
titsuru in 180 days possibly maybe
koro in 300 days possibly maybe
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>>568018667
Damn alright, thought itd be less, plenty of saving time
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>>568018460
Makoto > Yukari > Akihiko > Mitsuru > Fuuka > Junpei > Koro > Aigis
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>>568018460
yukari>akihiko>potential mystery nigga>5 P5X characters> Mitsuru>Fuuka>2 P5X characters>Junpei>Pinky>Dog>Cooler Closer>Aegis>dancetards>shinjiro and ken eventually

https://lufel.net/en/schedule/
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>>568018724
could be before if they skip summer
shitkari->akihiko->ichigo->summer->summer->kumi->bui->MITSURU->fuuka->notte->shun->stupei->naruru->KOROMARU
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>>568018951
And then Metis whenever they feel like they want to be again since they have a 3D model for her ready to go
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>>568019163
Why would they skip summer? The problem with this patch cycle is too much P3R and that'd make it worse
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>>568019292
because it will not be on summer
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>>568019354
You're acting like CNY Rin wasn't in march
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>>568019529
chinese new year go to february 20, rin was march 4
summer characters will land on august and september if they don't shuffle anything around
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>>568019825
You think they're just not dropping two extremely popular and hot characters because the seasons will be off? Summer Closer and Tomoko dropped in September and October lmao
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Its gonna be Winter Rin and she will be wearing 5 layers of warm clothing enjoy.
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Even if there's a sync patch, they should both fall in August(assuming we stick to 2 weeks) which is way better than last years.
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>>568020321
MOMPO IS COLDO
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>>568018951
>5 p5x characters
Time to save baby.
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>>567987286
Oneshot it with Skull
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>>568020090
>
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>>568020442
I think they'd be foolish not to stick to 2 weeks given how boring 3 week patches are. All signs point to them planning to maintain 2 weeks with the fact we still only have 2 guild bosses and the fact they reduced the tartarus grind a ton. One of the biggest CN complaints was lack of content and the time between story patches and maintaining a 2 week pace would solve both
>>568020519
lmao same except I'm skipping Blitz
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>>568020617
Wonder's wife.
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>a6 makoto in guild
>it has fucking 26 crit rate and 43 crit dmg from cards..
>i have 93% crit dmg 20% crit on my a0

do whales not try to get good cards
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>>568020910
sir I don't think, I have money
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>>568020910
Stupid people are the ones A6ing whether they be whales or low spenders who want to go all in on one unit
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Rank the Yuri Ships (there’s 15 here so 1-15)

Motoha and Riko
Motoha and Tomoko
Motoha and Aran
Motoha and Tamayo
Riko and Aran
Riko and Katayama
Aran and Airi
Aran and Shadow Aran
Yaoling and Yukimi
Tomoko and Kotone
Manaka and Chizuko
Merope and Naruru
Merope and Marthym
Runa and Hiyori
Hiyori and Neko

It’s unfortunate but there’s a lot of girls who are very isolated from the rest of the cast, and thus don’t have potential pairings - like Ayaka, Miyu, etc. Need more events where they interact with each other
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>>568022260
idk about rating all of them but riko and katayama is no.1 no doubt
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>>568022260
It’s kinda fucked up that you can have Naruru suck you off on the toilet while you’re on the phone with Merope. All I’m saying is it seems a little too far
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>>568022260
Yuricucks are giga faggots. Persona is a series for straight non cuck men
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>>568022656
A6ing
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>>568024342
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>>568022656
Askipping
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>>568022656
what size are those shoes?
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>>568022656
Certainly a meta character for wind parties.
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>>568022656
Ladies and gentlemen your new Windvast has arrived
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>>568022656
>Zorro
>not Mercurius or Diego
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>>568022656
GATO SEXO
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>>568026320
The real question is why isn't he taking his mask off like the other dancers in casual clothes
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>wandah, as soon as youre old enough to drink come by and i’ll give you as much as you want!
what did she mean by this
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>>568027445
BAD TOUCH
STRANGER DANGER
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>>568020780
That's Tomoko
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>>568027445
>when some random italian is groomed is le bad
>when wonder is groomed is hot
explain
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>>568028067
I consent to being raped while he doesn't
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>>568027445
She wants to have sex with an underage boy.
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>That's Tomoko
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EuThErPe MiNnA wOo MaMoTEeEeEeEeE!!!!!!!1!!1!!!
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>>568022656
>Inbetween Super Joker and the Anniversary unit
Easiest skip of my life
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>>568028865
What did you roll for your joker? I got A1R0 he's great but I've heard is A2 is actually better than his weapon
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>>568028326
you can't consent rape
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>>568029010
Oh yeah? Watch me buddy
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>>568022656
Why did Joker get Raoul but Morgana still has Zorro?
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>>568029385
Zorro is unconfirmed I think they just copied the original Mona page over and edited it with the image and name
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HaremGODS won
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what are the best A6 in the game, counting even chinese characters? like the A6 is so broken it completely changes the character
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>>568029643
I like how they both have a social link via an mmo.
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>>568030389
Does P3R add a bonus social link where you meet irl and raw dog them though?
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>>568028968
Fucker took me 91 & 156 pulls on the 80/80 banner so I stopped at A1 for now. I'll get the weapon from salamander coins later as it is indeed better to invest into his awareness first. The weapon is nice if you want to use him as your dps but thats for the whales to play with.
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>>568022656
>saboteur
lmao skip
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>>568030702
Even at the whale level he's useless now. Every sweeper after Haru (even herself) outscores him on the Dominion guild boss.
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>>568029829
i think ange is at least a top pick, dunno if its the best tho. doesnt really change her but having another extra turn in fights that only last 6 turns is amazing. also the twins could be on the same tier as her bit i dont know much about the other server, only a bit of what the new characters do
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>>568030702
I got him at like 56 winning the 50/50 which was nice and I don't remember how deep I went the second time but I early pulled Yui around 20 pulls and I think so it was positive overall. I won the weapon 50/50 too. On global I'll probably go for A1 no weapon or maybe I will go for the weapon because if I lose the 50/50 it'd be the first opportunity to get it for joker/fox/yui. In fact that's the reason I rolled for the weapon to begin with.
>>568030913
We're talking about dancing joker who is a buffer/debuffer/subdps
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>>568029829
Ange, Twins, Mitsuru and Starlight Joker are the big ones. Ive seen Joker hit a casual billion despite sitting in the support slot. That man can do it all.
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>>568031141
looking cool joker!
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>>568031141
People have literally spent months saying that mitsuru is dogshit and should be skipped
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>>568030484
Thatd be funny considering you know who the mmo friend is irl by the end of the link. It'd be incredible
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Is the targeted or chance better to pull on and why
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>>568029829
>like the A6 is so broken it completely changes the character
Crow
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>>568031123
Oh yeah that pretty good, its nice to go for the 50 50 weapon banner and winning no matter what you get. I do hope that new Jokers powerlevel isnt the new normal (unlikely as it is) and hes just an outlier thanks to his identity of Johnh Persona 5. People are doubling their previous rank scores because he is just that much better. Score inflation is insane. And 20% extra final damage at A6 is a choice of all time. Still, he is a lot of fun to play with and the animation into the all out attack is very cool.
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>>568031867
On global they're practically even. Targeted is way more consistent and can't fuck you over with poor luck. Chance is the gamblers choice.
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>>568031867
Difference is pretty small but targeted is recommended. Easier to plan around and the standard pool on global is awful.
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Going through Door's story and just did the karaoke one. It's a bit sad that he laments not ever being able to do it with his friends, that they usually just hang out to eat or whatever and then part ways. But at the same time, it's almost beautiful that he cares so much for those goobers regardless.
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>>568031624
her A0 is whatever
her A6 make her do 6x more damage and she actually turn into a viable main dps
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>>568031983
>powerlevel
Yeah I think the devs intend to make protagonists powerful because they're popular like Makoto and Joker but I also don't want older characters to become useless that easily. Powercreep wise TW is getting Joker AND the anni unit with their mindscape so it's probably going to be crazy. Speaking of power levels I hope Yukari and Puppet get buffs that help them be better especially puppet who apparently gets mogged by Yusuke with his mindscape.
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>>568032327
Yeah P3 definitely has less of a social vibe so it's cool that this collab gets to show more of them interacting in casual ways especially protagonists who are usually more subdued because they're self inserts
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>>568032327
It makes sense since he's the one who kept the group glued together.
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>>568031624
Its a bit of a jump at A6
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The final boss of Tart having a billion hp does not make this any fun. A good 10 minutes on auto, and i stacked a lot of good cards together. Not running that shit again for a long time.
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>>568032890
>trusting the AI to do anything for you on auto
I took him down in the time it takes to do a Sea of Souls (so 6 full rounds or combat)
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>>568032129
It’s getting a little better. Yumi, runa, minami, and cherish are decent, and you can still use Anne and Ryuji for stuff.
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>>568032890
Whenever I use auto my wonder becomes a shield monkey
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>>568032327
I mean the main cast of persona 3 were NOT friends until like the very ending parts of the game. They were barely functioning as a team through most of it
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>>568033308
lies, jumpei was my bro the entire time
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>>568033391
Im talking about with each other not with the mc. Also junpei semi hated you for a large part of the game until he got humbled and started the chidori stuff
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>devil card+static objects antique+plus every static objects card I can find
>not a single rare one in a run
Does difficulty affect the spawn on these things? The only ones I've seen were 2 in a three difficulty run.
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does closer new form stay as her look or she change back to the KKK hoodie? her original phantom thief outfit is so fucking dumb
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>>568033506
They weren't super buddy-buddy for a long time, but I did like how they were comfortable talking outside of dedicated pairings, which is one of my main complaints with 4. It's nice seeing odd pairs like Ken and Mitsuru talking without the protag having to get them together first.
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>>568033719
I like how the outfits are supposed to be how the persona user visualize a rebel. Like what's closer's brain damage that a bright yellow hoodie is a rebel to her lol
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>>568033876
Its a baseball outfit with a hoodie or some shit
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>>568033794
Yeah I love that in p3, its my favorite game. It gets so much of the inter personality stuff right. Plus it has thr party's advanced personas be tied to the story and not the links, so those big growth changing moments are actually represented in their future interactions and aren't just forgotten about in the main story
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Surely they will give us a super re-run for the global anniversary, right?
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>>568033876
bro it's so cool it make a lighting bolt!
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>>568033936
>>568034326
Yeah but again whats in her head that shes like... a baseballer is rebel to society lol
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>>568034402
To be fair women do that shit a lot "yeah a man went to the moon but I was only inspired when a woman did it" maybe in her mind playing baseball which is typically male dominated is "rebelling against the patriarchy"
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>>568034402
baseball bat is a rebel weapon so baseball players are rebels
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>>568034524
I mean shes characterized as like one step above retarded so I wouldn't expect her thoughts to be complex like that. To be fair thought i doubt the devs of x considered why the characters would think a rebel is and instead just made cool designs which is fair
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>>568034774
I was joking she just looks like the peanut butter jelly time banana. She's closer to Aho girl than anything like that
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>>568034698
Yeah but she uses a ball on a chain not a bat
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What am I supposed to do with these, none of these knives look good
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>>568033040
I played the first few rounds manually, but despite doing huge numbers with using both Makotos to nuke, the boss's hp would tick down like 5-10% at best. My all out attacks were doing half a mill+. The fact that it also summons adds and also has a 2nd hp bar just immediately made me turn on auto and set my phone down. No one on my team was dying nor ran out of sp either. Its just not fun and has no strategy involved.
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>>568035041
What is your main team? Starry compass is good for Haru and general sweeper use. Purgatory is good for fire teams.
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Does this game have spear characters?
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>>568035240
leon and maybe technically turbo
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>>568035240
Well, Aegis' Persona has a spear, Ken Amada will have a spear when he comes in, and some Personas Wonder can get use spears. I think Power.
Its not really notable though.
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>>568035240
Spears become ranged damage in this game for whatever reason
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>>568035296
Bro she has a flag hanging off her spear wtf shes my waifu now.
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>>568035239
I have these knives already
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>>568035240
R. Motoha uses one as well.
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>>568035423
She's pretty popular and she's one of the few characters getting added to the standard banner in a few months
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>>568035567
Ah yeah I forgot about her that's true
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>>568035567
Nice spear but her armor is kinda strange, whats her deal

>>568035569
Tell me about the character whats the gimmick and personality
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>>568035687
She’s gay and plays softball badly
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>>568035687
I'll be honest I haven't done much of her bond story yet. She helps you in the arcade and she's obsessed with racing sims is what I know so far. Her gimmick is she scales her buffs off of speed and she gets an extra turn. She has a passive that buffs allies on extra turns if they have one and she gives pierce buffs which is very nice for multi hit characters
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>>568033794
P3 had the group be kinda doing their own things (although P3R fixed a lot of this), but P4 had the exact opposite problem where they don't really feel like friends with each other. They're just the guys who hang out with Chad.
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>>568036024
Why does everyone always say that P4 has the best friend group then?
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>need gems
>can go back and revisit the palaces i havent 100% yet
>remember all of their awful layouts and horrible traversal gimmicks
I havent felt more stressed in my life when i thought about it.
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>>568036024
>P3 had the group be kinda doing their own things (although P3R fixed a lot of this)
Thats not fixing it thats making it worse
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So I just beat Akashi. I was wondering what did some anons mean by "Korean NTR" and while I still have no clue what Korean NTR is (is it the Korean BBQ of NTR?) I have to say Akashi's flashbacks are easily the worst part of his arc because they're comically paced and edited. Like the one where his girl first cucks him and he drops to his knees might as well be a fake phone game ad with such great comedic timing. Kiuchi's flashbacks were done much better than this. I did like him doubling down and tripling down and completely losing himself during the fight, reminded me of Culprit's fight in P4.
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>>568036024
>yosuke calls you for a study session and wants to invite everyone else too
>yu doesn't feel like going
>the whole thing gets canceled
Very cool.
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>>568035687
>>568035861
She wants to do this for a living so she has (You) help her get some initial reputation as a streamer.
It's nothing special but it's also not convoluted.

As far as her gameplay, she's going to Standard and she's just one of the game's best generic buffers, especially for comps where a sub-dps, saboteur, etc does not do insigificant damage.
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>>568036317
wrong persona thread broski
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>>568035861
>she gives pierce buffs which is very nice for multi hit characters
Why is it specifically good for multi hits? Does it not work as well on single hit attacks?
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>>568036317
Terrible soap opera slop with his gf and boss drama. They're so comically unrealistically evil they may as well be wearing tophats and have curled black moustaches.
>I have to say Akashi's flashbacks are easily the worst part of his arc because they're comically paced and edited. Like the one where his girl first cucks him and he drops to his knees might as well be a fake phone game ad with such great comedic timing.
So you're picking up what I'm putting down here.
Like there are degrees of writing between [It's "bad" because they're too ordinary] and [It's so over the top that the characters involved feel like parodies rather than people].
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>>568036560
No this is the right thread
>>568036317
> I was wondering what did some anons mean by "Korean NTR"
That was just the mary sue schizo. I wouldn’t worry too much about it
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>>568036870
Pierce is good generally it's just more effective on moves that do lower damage whether be multi hit like Makoto or resonance like summer puppet
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>>568036972
>No this is the right thread
I see why you're confused, but in this p5x thread we discuss literally every other game in the persona series other than the one this general is for
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>>568036870
What's a bigger damage gain
15% def ignore on 1 hit or 15% def ignore on 4 hits?
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>>568037069
Blame the devs for all the collab slop then
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some of you are dumb as shit
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>>568037091
>What's a bigger damage gain
>15% def ignore on 1 hit or 15% def ignore on 4 hits?
You realize it doesn't actually matter since they're all bundled into the calc for the 1 Action anyway. The size of the hits would also matter.
Ultimately, Pierce was useless then they buffed it and it's really good, so Turbo went from meme to good generalist.
She isn't necessarily the "best" buffer to 1 ally, but she does buff 4. It is obviously preferable if more than 1 of those 4 is doing relevant damage.

That all said, the answer is always "more fodder for Astrolabe".
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>>568037375
Post hand with timestamp
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>>568037375
Muscle memory
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>>568037375
Walk into special needs class and shocked when its below average intelligence
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>>568037375
yeah I rolled chord
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>>568038030
Wait is chord not good... I pulled her thinking extra highlight would be op...
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>>568037395
I kept it simple for him to understand. Please spare me the ummm ackshually bullshit.
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>>568038103
Since P3 characters don’t use highlights, she quickly falls off
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>>568038220
unless you're using Berry or Motoha
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>>568037375
I used my 5* case on riddle
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>>568038220
Bro put me on suicide watch... its so over... Living for today? More like living never...
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>>568038121
>kept it simple
>made up completely inaccurate bullshit that is objectively wrong
Let me put this another way. The way you phrased it makes it sound like Turbo sucks if the big nukes only hit 1 time.
That's wrong and idiotic.
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>>568038103
>>568038504
She's whatever, I'd still like her more than Tempest Riko or Weird Item Shit Summer Minami, so she's the 2nd best by default!
More so if you don't give a shit about P3 characters.
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>>568036120
P4 has the best power fantasy if you want to self-insert. Everyone sucks your dick 24/7.
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>>568038523
>Made it sound like Turbo is bad for single hits
(You) interpreted it like that.
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>>568038718
>More so if you don't give a shit about P3 characters
And I don't!
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>>568040256
Nta but your wording makes you sound like a retard just fyi
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>>568041749
The OG Mary Sue
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>>568041803
Wasnt her entire story about how she wasnt anywhere near as good as her sister at gymnastics, and then her inferiority led her to getting her sister killed?
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>>568042417
Ignore the schizo
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>>568041679
>nta
Don't pretend to be someone else dipshit.
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Will Wonder witness Door become Door?
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ITT anons that don't understand the concept of proportionate gains.
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>>568043494
No
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>>568043587
Everywhere you are a faggot
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>>568043986
Projection sure is a hell of a thing.
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>>568043494
Who cares?
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You are pulling for Yukari, right?
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>>568045142
Yeah, she's cute and I need a good healer other than Marian/twins.
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Let's have what's more damage...
100 x 1.1
Or
25 x 4 x 1.1
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>>568045142
Fuck no
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>>568045142
Nah, I now save up til aigis releases and a6 her
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>>568046757
Yukari is meta for Aegis
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>>568045142
Yep, P3 is my favorite entry so I'm pulling everyone. Also Yukari is really really cute.
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>>568046624
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMIubZVab3I
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https://youtu.be/WEUQkj7f1zE
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>>568046956
Is she actually? Either way I dont have a slot to spare on my team. Gotta fill out the other two slots with Metis and Labyrs
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>>568046624
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>>568047915
Those shitters aren't ever being added.
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>>568047915
Absolute divine taste.
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>>568048073
Metis is the anniversary unit though
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>>568047915
It’s not even guaranteed we’ll get Metis and we’re definitely not getting Labrys.
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>>568047915
Such ugly designs on these dykes
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>>568047915
Absolute abysmal taste
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>>568048230
You wouldn't get it senpai
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Aigis ruined p3 to an insane degree
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So my current Makoto team is Makoto, Riko, Twins, and Ange. Would Yukari be better than Twins for him?
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>>568048856
Bro she's the best part of p3
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>>568047915
based toaster fucker
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>>568046624
You really are salty catty bitch aren't you?
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>>568049002
Not necessarily. Yukari will just deliver a suitable level of performance when you want Twins on your other side. However right now with him being shilled Yukari is going have an awkward position. In the OG servers she wqs shaky already, niw that we got the twins early they're gonna have to either buff her (unlikely because she just got her new mindscape shit) or make her tied to the sekret Anniversary unit in some way.
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>>568049217
Not really, her story and character arc sucks and isnt compelling in the slightest.
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>>568049898
Aigis is great cause she thematically goes on an opposite arc to everyone then to have all of the awnser to eventually go on an arc similar to the rest of the party.
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>>568049898
That goes for everything in P3
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>>568050085
>She takes up double the screen time to reach the exact same point as the others
Kind of proves my point. It's oversaturation, and detracts from the others. I dont care about LE ROBOT BECOMING HUMAN.
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>>568050474
Idk bro maybe you aren't human if you felt nothing from aigis' very emotional speech at the end
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>>568046624
When defence is applied per hit…
(100 - 10) x 1.1
Or
(25 - 10) x 4 x 1.1
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>>568050630
Mitsuru did it better
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>>568050937
The math is faulty because it is incomplete and incorrect as well, not to mention literally makes no reference to the game's damage calculation formula.

Since Piercing is a percentage and multiplicative, like all of these comparisons, there is no difference since any chain of multiples will always arrive at the same ending.
Thus you changed the values to whole integers contained in parentheses to manipulate the end result.
And even then you were too much of a retarded to do that dishonest correctly since you were supposed to put 2 equations, where you reduced the integer 10 to the same figure in both to create a result where the 2nd equation gained more.
So you manage to be both a liar and an idiot.
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>>568051563
You type all this to stay in 6* C2.
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>>568051685
That is also incorrect but it's a lot like the kinds of arguments that one guy from P2 ranted a bit about. I could be a 2* brick wiping on the freebie nodes, and I'd still be right.
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what the fuck was this mode
I hit the boss for literal millions of damage and his health bar barely moved
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If you run the dual Makoto comp please just kill yourself
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>>568052429
The padding of the roguelike modes like this and Metro.
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>>568052816
I saw the potential for the healer team just like metro but I didn't have Marian unlocked
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Is there a way to save and come back on Tartarus?
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>>568053924
Literally just leave
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>>568052429
HSR game design please understand.
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>>568052429
Why does Makoto’s awareness logo look like that?
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>>568055779
SEES characters can go to A7 in Tartarus
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>>568055993
What’s his A7 awareness do?
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>>568057365
Widens his asshole more
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Is Tartarus max difficulty right now three?
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>>568057365
faster theurgy gain
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>>568057365
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>>568058340
Yeah
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>win with -100 will
so whats the strat here? I heard you the priestess card effects AOA damage can bypass the -90 damage and if thats the case wouldn't yusuke be the best character here? since he can activate an AOA even if its not his turn
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>>568049217
*worst
Shitgis is a dogshit character.
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Sumi buff when?
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>>568065159
So far, the only one popular enough to make them relent to peer pressure and buff a kit directly post release is Aigis
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>>568064570
Fight everything. Save up your clock gears and splurge if you happen to nab a card that gives you a discount at the great clock.
Grab the major arcana cards that boost AoA damage and grant overheal damage.
GET MARIAN.
Get those stats up. The temporary stat boosts are really good too.
There are two minor arcana cards that boost your damage based on how many chests you opened and how many objects you destroyed.
Queen does fat fucking damage right now.
There's an antique that reduces your starting Will but lets you start off with drawing a random major arcana.
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why does futaba AI use skill 2?
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I'm seriously considering breaking up with Kotone and dating Manaka. I definitely don't want to be a two-timer.
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SMT IV Apocalypse is the most Persona-like SMT, so obviously, we'll get Nanashi for our first SMT crossover.
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PERUPEPE
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What's the stopping point on Door in terms of dupes?
I have him at A0 with his weapon rn
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>>568071106
A0 or A2.
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Is Runa good? I recently came back to the game, got A1 twins and Ange, and selected Chord with the selector. I ideally prefer to roll for OC characters.
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>Mannequin boss is taking everything in like a sponge
HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO KILL THAT SHIT?
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>>568075723
She's coming to the standard banner is a few months so I wouldn't bother rolling for her. After Akihiko we get 5 back to back original characters so I'd consider saving for them plus whoever the anni unit is
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>>568075723
doggo will join standard in 2 months
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>>568075918
>>568075940
Nice, thanks!
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>>568075723
>I ideally prefer to roll for OC characters.
I feel like you're going to have a hard time.
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>>568075958
Actually P3R gives ample saving opportunity so I'd say it'd a good time for him
>>568075954
https://lufel.net/en/schedule/ this list is pretty helpful although it assumes we're going to 3 week patches post anni when I think we're going to be 2 weeks
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Why is that fucker so tanky?
What is the right tactic?
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>>568075958
Yeah, I'm still thinking how I want to do this.
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>>568076696
>using 3 dps
What exactly is the plan here? lmao
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Seriously though why the fuck did make him obsolete already before he even hit global? There's no reason to use him over Yukari now considering she's not the best in slot for any SEES damage dealer but also for wind teams. Meanwhile this stupid faggot little cocksucker can't do shit outside of fire teams.
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>>568077306
I just realised you could be a new player so generally speaking you want 1 dps and 2 buffers. You can sometimes get away with 2 dps and 1 buffer + wonder buffing/shielding. I usually use 1 dps, 1 healer like Marian and 1 buff + crit buffing with my wonder using dionysis
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>>568077353
They realized he's male and as such nobody would roll for him. Jokes aside they'll likely buff his fire team abilities when we get to him. I do wonder if Yukari will be buffed though so she isn't useless as soon as summer minami gets released
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>>567898849
wheres persona 6
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>>568075918
>>568075940
When are we getting turbo then?
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>>568079815
She was somewhat recent so it's gonna be like 4 months. Luckily when the devs start adding limited characters to the standard pool on the second anni we shouldn't have to worry about the massive delays anymore
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>>568075723
She’s reasonably good on any team that uses resonances and / or uses basic fire/ice/wind/elec elements - particularly Fire as you might expect.
She’s good with Swan-Mont and Lion-Rin (Ideally you run her and Matoi together with Rin), and you can use her with units like Ann and Bui to good effect even if they themselves aren’t meta. She’s usable with P3MC, but you probably want Yukari / Turbo / Vast Wind with him, so she’s a little suboptimal there (but if you get a couple of ascensions on her from standard pulls might be worth it over like an A0 Yukari).
I’m not 100% on how Summer-Puppet works, but iirc she’s very resonance heavy, so I assume Runa will actually be a pretty good pair with her.

All in all, she’s reasonably useful and can be used in a lot of teams - definitely the best standard unit up until Turbo comes around in like… october. And she’s cute, which always helps
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>>568076696
not bringing 2 fire dps into the fire resistant enemy I guess
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>>568082159
Oh if he's fire resistent he should have brought orobas with his fire break since resist does half damage so neutral is double
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Runa smells
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Are you prepared for the 1st global anni where they announce soft pity is being implemented? I'm so ready bros
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whats the best single target dps persona for wonder in contrast to yoshitsunes multi target dps?
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She will be the anniversary unit.
>Black Wings doesn't have to make a new model
>Ties into the P3R promo
>Loved by the fans
>Significantly more popular than Margaret
Hope her kit is as cool as C&J's.
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>>568087151
Isn't it cu thain or whatever the fuck he's called? Another physical dps but single target
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>>568087329
I hope so but some people keep saying the devs hinted it's "music related but also not exclusively music related". If she's not the anni unit now she will be for 1.5
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>>568087330
only if you need a single target phys dps, i think for single target in general its vishnu
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I am a shitter but this guy seems easier than other lv 30 bosses.
I remember the Twins boss really fucking me up.
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i can reach 450% sp recovery and 400%+ crit mult but only in battle, does it count?
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>>568087329
>>568087467
Its Metis, shes on the album art for persona 3 reload
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>>568089543
her rating seems kinda ass tho
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>>568089905
I believe in battle stats count so as long ass you have a Navi you'll be fine
>>568089885
I didn't finish P3 so I have no idea who that is but she kinda looks like an Aegis clone. I think it might be Elizabeth and she'll have the same global passive as the twins with giving wonder extra skill levels so eventually with all attendants he can reach level 15 like A6 characters
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>>568089543
>>568089905
yeah, in battle is what matters. sounds fine to me
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>>568090060
Metis is a robot just like aigis and is a big player in the persona 3 expansion the awnser. Which was just added to reload.
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>>568043494
yes
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>>568091091
https://bilibili.com/video/BV1USoGBdE2X
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why is akechi shit talked so much when he can do this kind of damage?
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>>568092919
Fucking stickbug nigga.
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>>568092919
Faggot
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>>568092919
>weakened
lmao now try it on a sea of souls boss
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>>568093124
seems pretty decent? current sea of souls doesnt have any buffs for it too
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>>568094076
He's a sub dps I'm pretty sure if you pair him with a main dps the multiplyer goes up to 1.8 but he's marked as low tier because he's worse than main dps characters at their job and as a sub dps it's typically better if you have 2 buffers over 1 buffer 1 sub dps and 1 dps. With Mitsuru and Joker starlight they perfected the "sub dps" formula by mixing them with buffers/debuffers
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>>568094435
why didnt they buff him in global then? seems weird
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>>568094569
I think they did allow him to target himself when he couldn't do that before. He's in a weird state where I believe at A6 on whale teams he's super meta so lots of whales pulled him but at low awareness he's not that great outside of instances he's shilled with the two dps bonus points. Definitely a weird character. I would not be too surprised to see him get a mindscape sooner rather than later.
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>>568094840
yeah, right. he can be used as a main dps now which is what i'm doing but i dunno how big that self buff is. i just like running ange on him and spamming his skill 3 lol
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>>568095231
He's a pretty cool character one of the reasons I rolled for Haru and Kasumi was the lack of time you get to spend with them because they get added to the party later in the game. I would have rolled for Akechi if he didn't require so much investment but at his current power level I'd rather roll for a cute girl. Whenever he gets added to tartarus he might be a good pick considering his A6 is real nice.
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>Item Story 3
>Talks with Door-kun about the operation babe hunt on Yakushima
>Kotone and then Miyu pop in
>One of the questions for the two are about the beach
>Miyu brought it up (Has a swimsuit alt)
Have a hunch about who is gonna get another summer alt.
JEWEL SAVING TIME HERE I COME!
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What does 'Basic Training Material Bonus' mean in terms of Tartarus difficulty selection? Is this just giving more gold/silver tartarus coins? Can I breeze through easy difficulty to cap out the rest of my missions if I've already capped all the mastery tree & antique levels?
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>>568096251
Exactly those tartarus coins.
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Reached two stacks of Cognite shards.
Thinking of hoarding them until they get updated with Vast Riko to atleast chesse my way up to A4.
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>A0 Makoto, 4* sword
>A5R2 Ann
Am I better off borrowing an A2R0 Makoto or Rin for their Companio fights
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>>568097029
She'll be powercrept by summer minami by that point so that's a waste
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>>568097029
given the rate of them updating those, I won't get my hopes too high
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>>568094569
They did. There are two issues at play with how you're using him. First, he's a sweeper so there isn't amy circumstance you want to use him on a single target boss. Second you don't have him at A6 which massively buffs him, not that you need it. Regardless he's actually good as a main DPS (his global buff), in terms of power level he's similar to A0 Haru at A0. At A6, he's actually on par with CNY Rin with the advantage of not being tied to Matoi, and always being neutral damage wise with his S3, etc. The wisdom of him only being a standout unit at A6 is still valid though.
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>>568097029
>Thinking of hoarding them until they get updated with Vast Riko
Didn't Standard only JUST add Joker Yui and Yusuke? So you're looking at a 2 year wait. For fucking Riko.
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>>568098978
He’s talking about cognite shards anon, not standards. Joker and Yusuke are already available on cognite shards
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>>568099119
Fair but I don't know the pace of those either.
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are we actually getting a new anniversary unit like twins?
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>>568097029
They haven't even added Chord yet. In fact, I spent my first one in the hopes that by the time I got 60 again, she would've been added. Now I have another 60 and she still isn't here.
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>>568099172
No.
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>>568098978
>>568099194
I have waited over a full year to A6 Kotone and Ange, I have the time.
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>>568099172
Yes, the event is music themed so we’re most likely getting Hatsune Miku
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>>568099172
Yes.
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>>568099963
why her
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>>568099963
>>568100003
Proof?
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>>568099194
Has the shard pool ever been updated? Feels like the shards lost a lot of their luster ever since the chinks started adding earlier limiteds to the standard pool.
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>>568100207
I don’t remember when it was, but they updated it when they added Fox and Queen
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>>568100303
hey added Joker, Fox, and Queen the standard on the 5.X in the CN server. Just recently
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>>568101645
>and queen
Why are you lying bro
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>dancing joker's S3 AoA triggers a random AoA scene from your party if you kill the enemies. That's a nice way to see rarer ones
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>>568101645
>>568102282
Oh yeah, i got it wrong. it's Joker, YUI, and Fox
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Bros my kasumi outdamages Makoto. What am I doing wrong?
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>>568102930
too much speed
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>>568102930
Not enough speed
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It’s actually kind of insane how slow some of the shit is on x1 speed
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>Start p5x becasue I'm a big fan of persona series
>Don't really care about end game
>People ask me why I bother playing
>P3 Collab happens
>Dumb retarded staircases
>P3 OST
KINO
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>>568077353
Just wait for Makoto mindscape unlock, he will be back. In the meantime Rin gets to run him for mld Vishnu.
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>>568104385
It's reminds me of playing the trails series without turbo mode
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>>568102930
It's not your fault bro, the buffs global gave kasumi just means makoto isn't as good as he was on CN compared to her.
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>>568104385
I've accidentally switched to 1x and have wondered if my perception of time is all fucked up from watching 3x constantly or if they actually look like they're moving underwater
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>>568097969
Or borrow A6 twins/wind/single target dps like Violet and go all in on the freddy flintstone fight with your own Makoto and simply scuff fight #2. If you cant borrow any A6 then Rin will probably be the next best option.
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>>568105575
yeah bro everyone is in a good companio with A6 assists
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>>568106150
This is true
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>>568105575
makes sense

>>568106150
rude
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>>568106150
just join one. it's that ez.
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>>568106150
Join Waifu Slammers, we have a spot open.
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Ann would be the perfect anni unit
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Is the Haruna’s Chair guy from here?
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>try autoing Makoto
>have him going 4th
>has crit boosts

>uses skill 2
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>>568106150
My sub 100 companio has two guys who whaled, I have no idea why they don't join a better one because I'm positive 75% of the people in it just auto.
Whales are everywhere.
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>>568108432
Probably not whales and are people who just saved up for their favorite character
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>>568108432
>129 with R0 weapon
How?
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>>568107513
Yes, he complains about tomoko every day and calls Aran and Shoki mary sues
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>>568109271
That schizo would not be based enough to like Haruna
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>>568099963
yes please, she already has a model in P4D so they can re use it
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I wouldn’t have expected it, but Wonder and Makoto actually have good chemistry together during the side stories
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>>568109392
This would be fucking terrible
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>>568109513
A schizo and an autist, natural comrades
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>>568108976
This is a good point. I don't actually know how much it would take to A6 or A6 + R6.
>>568109072
He's probably got near perfcect cards and a maxed mindscape.
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What did you guys spend your free weapon dupe thing on from Lufel's business plan EX? I'm not sure what's best but I am tempted to put into the twin's weapon especially since I might be A2ing them
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>>568099963
>>568109392
but she's already got two 5*s
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Is A2 Twins worth? I only got A1 last time but they've unironically been my best unit.
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>>568111372
i a6r6’d a character so it just helped save some jewels. ive heard the twins are a top choice and would definitely consider going for them yeah, some people have said as well maybe ange because shes a navi and still top tier on cn but you could day the same about the twins especially at a2. quite a few people die chord for the extra highlight energy and to get a highlight on the 3rd action before the dps with the 25% hl energy card set but it isnt a huge deal and i still think the twins might be the best option honestly
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>>568111629
A1R0 is better than A2 I think because you start with both stacks and it's cheaper. A2 is really nice but you sound like you're new and if you're new I wouldn't recommend investing too heavily into one unit but A2 is good and with their mindscape they maintain their top tier position for a long time.
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>>568111372
I upgraded base Motoha's 5* weapon
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Release the straightest man alive to the standard pool already
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>>568111816
Well I can get another one of chords weapon with the upcoming anni weapon box although I don't use the highlight cards on her lol but the twins sounds good. I won't have any fodder for their weapon for a while though because I'm missing a lot of standard weapons
>>568112114
Don't be silly
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>>567906559
>How did you react when you learned you were making her an E-Thot?
Turboslut?
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Investing in Chord at this point is a mistake
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>>568112259
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>>568112613
You are very commited to this bit by upgrading one of the worst characters in the game. Either that or you're a whale who just used a spare one
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>>568112527
but I just got my A1 chord. OHONONONNO
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>>568112527
it isnt the best idea but she still really good with berry and the story 5 star motoha in the future, plus being in your 2nd/3rd teams with older dps characters and it might be unlikely but they might do another character after motoha that wants chord with her mindscape buffs
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>>568112756
What bit?
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>>568112613
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>>568112527
You're gay
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>>568108432
Because the top companios won't even look at you without A6 Ange and those 2 units have already been powercrept.
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>>568111372
Twins. R1 gives them 8% more party crit dmg and dmg(ange gives 4.6% more crit dmg and 2.4% dmg for comparison). Also, 3% more desire level on S3 which has a minor effect on it's variables.
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>>568113119
>variables
I thought S3 desire just made it do more damage?
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>>568112613
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You're not skipping all this sexiness, right Anon?
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While we're talking about it does anyone know why I have one of those generic weapon dupes on TW? They don't have lufel's business plan EX so I'm guessing it was from CNY or some event like that.
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>>568113761
Yup
And her friends
And any other p3 characters
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>>568114079
this but with the entire p4 cast.
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>>568114079
Stop lying
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>>568113973
Hate to tell you this but nobody here really plays the other servers. The knowledge of it from English speakers is consolidated to the WorldWide Discord.
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>>568114293
Ill screenshot them all being locked when the collab ends in 2 years. Screenshot this post
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>>568114349
I've talked with some TW players here and the WW discord requires your phone number to chat so I don't bother. Most places that aren't here are full of tourists faggots and children so I avoid them like the plague
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>>568113204
A lot of the combos have buffs/debuffs affected by desire as well. I actually just tested it to be sure before posting, and the weapon desire buff also increases those.(4 star on top, 5 star on bottom at 100 desire base. Increase over skill description is due to mindscape).
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>>568115035
I thought that only happened for every 100 not like every point of desire so unless you manage to go over 200 (you start with at least 100) with the bonus nothing changes
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Remember when she was the better pull over Kotone? I love that you fags were wrong.
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>>568115537
From what I've seen she does quite a bit more damage than Kotone. But really they're both quite powercrept.
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Why would people even leave hate comments on Ange’s videos?
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>>568115908
Why do people hate Mr. Rogers? Why do people hate Ms. Rachel? You can be the most innocent motherfucker on the planet and people on the internet will want to fuck with you.
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>>568115537
This is a good image.
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>>568113973
Cny #2 was a limited character weapon box. The last time we got an eternal proof was the christmas event.
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>>568116278
So I got it around when the twins came out? I wonder if we'll get it when we get there because I'd almost be able to R6 it without a single dupe
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>>568113973
I got you tw sis they gave one out for 4.7.1 update https://x.com/P5X_Games/status/1994738120278061343
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>>568116749
The bottom one seems like the monthly card did they give that out? I remember one time seeing a deal where the monthly was like NT$ 30 instead of NT$ 150. Thanks for finding this out btw this seems more like a 1.5 anni reward rather than Christmas
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>>568115240
The wording is a bit confusing but that's for a full 100 and it does count up incrementally per level. Even A6 mindscaped twins with their space card should be around 187 desire, so a 100 hard limit before taking effect again would be pretty much pointless.
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>>568118260
I see I just assumed they limited it so that they could easily make the twins relevant by adding desire over the cap but if it counts each individual desire point then that's better.
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P3 is so bad that P3-kun's presence in the party causes shield, healing, and damage numbers to randomly change styles on other characters and not during his turn, sometimes multiple styles during the same 1 action's effects.
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>>568118845
Are you really that bothered by the UI being slightly different?
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>>568119394
Readlet-kun doesn't understand that my complaint is about random UI jank, not only the UI change for 1 character's turns.
For example, Yukimi taking action and the damage number is P5, but a bonus damage tarot proc is P3, the shield is P3, and the heal from Blessing is P5.
That's just jank.
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>>568119394
>>568120297
Another funny one.
At the start of Yusuke's turn, Wonder highlights for shield, and the shield number shifts between P5 and P3 numbers based on the camera angle, of a P5 unit using a P5 highlight during another P5 unit's turn.
It does ruin the aesthetic to have stupid shit like that happen.
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>>568118845
>>568120297
>>568120792
kys
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P4 and its cast are dog shit
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>>568121967
>t.
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The Tomoshit Fateshit fan will tell you to buy your weekly tea soon.
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So the only way to do meaningful damage in Tartarus above the first dozen floors is the AoA card or the overheal card? My current team has A7 Makoto and A6 Makoto (who has that temp buff) and their regular damage output is fucking nothing compared to AoA cheese.
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>>568122642
>innocently reminding people to pick up their teas now that they’ve reset
This anon was right
>>568116015
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>>568123030
Ignore the schizo
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The bugs make this game soulful.
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except that "innocent" faggot has a history of being cancer
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>>568121967
>>568122642
Same poster btw
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>>568122642
Tea Time in a few minutes.

>>568123030
Eh it's just the Antimokoschizo, I tend to roll my eyes and don't mind him.
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>>568115908
The utaite scene is like the vtuber scene but more insane because NND is a bigger hotspot for mental illness than any of their chans
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>>568123030
>>568123432
>>568123624
same poster btw
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Why is astrolabe so small in TW? There's 10 nodes but I can only access 7 despite having 10 stamina. I also don't seem to get a bonus for completing each stage in one shot so does that mean that's a global exclusive bonus?
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>>568124962
I’m pretty sure they made it less nodes to make it easier
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>>568125324
That's lame though because I have way more characters on TW meaning I don't get to use other characters as much whereas on Global you can use all sorts of mixed squads due to the number of nodes and limited uses. In fact it's practically fully auto despite being a mode you were supposed to think about and be challenged by
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>>568124962
The powercreep made it rather pointless and more of a timewaste than anything. Therefore they reduced the total nodecount and I think they also removed the timegate. Gallery of Desire is meant to replace it.
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>>568121161
Not an argument.
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I’ve noticed Riko always uses her S1 and not S2 on auto and as someone who only has her A0 this is quite annoying
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>>568125854
That sucks where are you supposed to use all your characters then? Are there any plans for them to add a similar mode that encourages diversity like that? Maybe they should make a system where characters have point values assigned to them like that one yugioh format
>gallery
The problem with this is that it kind of feels like you're shit out of luck if you lack a matching dps plus you're only using two teams here so it's basically just Sea of Souls 2
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>>568126256
also worth noting it's still very confusing that there's 10 nodes displayed but only 7 are accessible for some reason. I could understand if they wanted to give extra stamina for newer players but the disable nodes are confusing because I thought there'd be more to do or they'd unlock somehow
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>>568122950
My last run had Nijima hitting for millions on difficulty 1. It's just all about stacking those final damage buffs. dmg per elemental ailment,debuff,chest,search item cards.
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>>568122950
>runs double assassin instead of assassin & buff/debuffer
>Assassin 1 isn't putting up elem afflicts for assassin 2, and assassin 2 isn't giving assassin 1 moon stacks with buffs
>surprised his two assassins that don't coordinate don't have individual high damage numbers
I cleared difficulty 3 with Queen without overheal or AOA cheese, but I built a team like a normal person instead of like a mong.
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>>568128480
No need to be condescending about it
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wow door-kun is pretty strong. i scored almost as much on his side with an a2r0 as i did on chink side where i borrowed an a6r6 rin.
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>>568131196
That’s the power of the Wild Card
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>>568131510
Except wonder they won't let him do damage
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please go back to 3 week cycles so i can save up gems...
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>>568132101
holy shit kill yourself faggot we need 2 week cycles post anni or this is going to even slower and more boring due to lack of content
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>>568132101
I understand wanting more time to save gems, but we barely have enough content for 2 week cycles… 3 weeks would be terrible
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>>568131196
And to think Aigis and RCloser are stronger. Powercreep this year has been insane.
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>>568132587
be*
>>568132662
yeah but he's still top tier even with them in the meta and those are extremely recent units VS door being released now
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Heh, yeah, I'm a gamer.

Really thought the unavailable guardian would've cucked me on this one. Caught the Chinook Salmon in one master pond visit at night while raining after like 15+ no shows on a normal day. Major pain in the ass and overall not worth it, especially since the bug where fish don't match their shadows still exists months later.
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>>568132759
I hate fishing in this game because it's not obvious which fish need which sized bait. They seem to ignore shit all of the time.
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>>568132970
I usually start with medium bait then switch to large when they stop biting(and then promptly catching a few mediums I missed because they love to stare at the bait sometimes). Overall, it's a pretty poor fishing minigame.
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>>568134413
I was doing that too but it feels like im taking forever to fill up the book plus some fish don't bite at all even with the most expensive bait
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me and my bitch
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>>568135805
You and the rest of the school
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>>568135805
wonder has bigger tits than riko in this image
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>>568128480
>runs double assassin instead of assassin & buff/debuffer
There's unironically nothing wrong with that. If anything, the team choices are barely relevant.
>I cleared difficulty 3 with Queen without overheal or AOA cheese, but I built a team like a normal person instead of like a mong.
And I rolled difficulty 3 with P3-kun, Yusuke, Yukimi... even though the final boss is largely Ice resist and his main attack is an omni-Weak so hard counters Yusuke.

>>568122950
So I'm suspecting the issue is not taking EVERY fight and managing Will accordingly.
Steer toward permanent buff cards that buff damage. Give zero fucks about Clock Gears and Clocks in general. Do take Dawn Fragments for Will replenishment.
Weirdly, Riko might be the best nav in the pool because buffs have diminishing returns when giga stacking buffs already.
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Is Yukari fine at A0 or is she A1/A2 bait? Also how important is her 5*?
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>>568139291
Her 5* weapon is awful, not worth it.
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>>568139291
Her 5* is terrible and I have no idea about her awarenesses but I think she's okay at A0 although if she stays the same powerlevel she gets powercrept pretty fast until her mindscape
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>>568139291
A1 let's her theurgy immediately(so she can skip applying wind erosion with S1) and gives 20% pierce. Pretty nice, but nothing critical. Weapon just gives 20% damage boost to the party+higher hp/def/atk for her, doesn't seem worth the cost.
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I constantly get tips about going to Chihaya and I did do her quests, but there's no city activity and every time I talk to her she just says "no fortune boost for today". What the fuck does she do and how do I do it?
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>>568141305
It’s a city life activity, unfortunately it barely ever pops up
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did they get HR Geiger to design this level or something?
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>>568132757
Nah he's a tier lower than them and that's with his tailor made team.
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>>568142656
Well yeah but you're comparing a character a year down the line and I'd say that's still pretty good. Plus you can make an okay team even without his dedicated squad because he's pretty flexible. He's lasted longer than most dps do and he's definitely aged better than the original joker
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>>568132759
Impressive. But the real challenge will arrive during the summer event where we steal Sepia's boat and go on an ocean fishing adventure with Miyu.
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>>568142904
I'm just stating the facts. No idea why you are so perturbed.
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>>568143203
I just don't think it's surprising that a unit would get powercrept a year later and even then he's still very high tier
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>>568139291
If you want her for fun just pull A0, the kit is complete at that point. The problem is that pierce is locked behind A1 and pulling a healer twice is a very expensive investment. Goodluck capping crit and defdown without extra awareness levels somewhere on the team or gigalucky cardstats. The weapon is not recommended, it does not do much and those gems are better used elsewhere.

Fair warning that her heals may not be enough to keep you up through some fights but in exchange she does offer stronger buffs than the other healers.
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>>568143462
That's fine, but I don't know why you are arguing with yourself.
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>>568144965
You're retarded if you don't see how "it's crazy he barely gets powercrept a year later" is a retarded thing to say but sure
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This is something that just randomly spawned in my head, but In theory, shouldn‘t the SEES characters actually die while summoning their personas in the Metaverse? As explained in Persona 5, when shadows in the metaverse think that the guns are real, they will be real and able to shoot.
Because the evokers look extremely “real”, shouldn‘t they be real in the Metaverse?
And if they would be real in the Metaverse, doesn’t that mean they should theoretically die?
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>>568144842
Where is everyone???
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Newish player here.
I don't have Tempest Riko, but have A1 Twins.
Am I good to pull for Makoto?
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>>568146036
A1 twins are a bis support for him. Ideally you would also have Ange to give him extra pierce and an extra turn too
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>>568146036
Yes, Riko will be replaced on meta Makoto teams the more SEES units that drop.
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You're all retards so shut the fuck up
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>>568099417
>A6 Kotone and Ange,
Are you me?
Who are you dating? I can't get myself to breakup with Kotone but it also kills me to just be friends with Manaka. Dating both is not an option either.
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Will?
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>>568146210
>>568146167
I actually also have Ange as well, so that's great.
Thanks.
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>>568145602
I saw this on reddit too.
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>when shadows think that guns are real
It would need to be the peeps using the evokers believing they are real in order for them to kill the user. Since they came from their own universe where they've already been using that shit and not dying, they don't hold that believe. Simple as.
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evoker? I hardly know 'er!
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Why the fuck is the musha so strong on difficulty 2?
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>>568147559
What? No, it'd have to be the shadows that think they're real.
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To summon a persona in 3 you have to accept your own mortality which is what the evoker is a visual representation of
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>>568147851
The shadows be like "omg it's the bloke from persona 3" and then they know it's not a real gun
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>>568147972
Nta but shouldn't they die from how the cast uses them as its to 8nvoke their own mortality which if thr cast is thinking of should that manifest as them actually dying (nothing to do with the shadow thoughts)
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>>568091091
>>568091384
cool
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>>568147851
>>568147972
Is the shadow getting hit by the bullet from the evoker?
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>>568148163
>(nothing to do with the shadow thoughts)
This dude gets it.
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You now remember the shadow girl with the big boobs holding a drink in her them in the slammers palace
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>>568150109
What do you mean "now remember"? I have her statue in my home base.
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>>568148163
I just realized I type this like a retard, what I'm trying to convey is

In persona 3 to summon a persona you have to accept your mortality, which is what the gun is there to represent. Now in the metaverse cognition is reality. So should them visualizing the gun as a symbol of their own death cause them to die when they pull the trigger? This would just be the cognition of the persona user and not the shadows.
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>>568150381
Is realizing "I will die at some point" the same as "I will blow my brains out right now"
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>>568150381
The P3 cast know the guns are fake so it wouldn't do anything to them. However the shadows might now, so if you shoot one with an evoker it should get damaged.
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>>568151194
NTA but they aim the gun at themselves before summoning their persona. Wouldn't that make them look fake?
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The opening lines of p3 you see are memento mori, cogito ergo sum, and la mort est personnifee
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>>568151345
If you saw someone on the street point a gun at their head you wouldn't think "that's fake" you'd think "they're gonna kill themself"
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>>568151194
I'd assume the shadows can sense the Plume of Dusk inside, so they would never consider it to be an actual gun.
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The shadows saw the trailer and that they were collab units so know
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Honestly this discussion makes me wonder (heh) whether in the eventual P4R collab the P5X cast will get glasses, will pretend they put the lenses into their masks or the entire issue will not even be brought up.
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Do you think Door saved our game from eos /p5x/?
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>>568153029
Nah the writiers being replaced during the third palace saved the game
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writing quality went down since then albeit
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>>568153680
If a retard that keeps calling everyone a mary sue thinks it went down, it probably went up.
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>>568152978
I mean, neither Yukari and Door mentioned that Wonder summons a persona without an evoker, and the only real reaction we got was Wonder emoting a "!!" when Yukari pointed a gun at herself before healing him. I mean if it gets brought up later, cool, but not mentioning the elephant in the room for weeks is pretty stupid.
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>>568154117
True and as someone who played the latest story on TW I think it's just getting better and better especially the most recent two story patches
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>>568154260
They probably think Wonder's mask is just a fancy Evoker, like Koromaru's collar.
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>>568153029
I highly doubt SEGA would eos the global server anyways. They've proven to not give a shit even with all the controversies. Only start worrying if they axe NGS.
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>>568154117
it definitely went down and your anus is hurt from the truth
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>>568154260
Even in P3 people can summon Personas without evokers. Jesus could do it. I think Chidori when she sacrifices herself to save Junpei did it without one. Fuuka only uses it once.
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>>568155378
...did you even play the game? They can do it because they got experimented on and they have to take drugs so their Personas don't go berserk and them.
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what does crushing your card do like in P4 then?
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>>568155378
Secondary
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>>568155192
Ew schizo
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>>568156203
That's purely symbolic, like the P5 cast reaching for their masks
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>>568155686
>>568156449
Not him but he's correct. They use evokers because the dark hour makes summoning Personas more exhausting.
You have to remember Persona 3 came out after 1 and 2 where you didn't need any special mechanics to summon a Persona.
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>>568156507
>ew
are you a middle school girl
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>>568156529
there's no fancy shmancy explanation like the p5 crew touching their spirit of rebellion or something? boring
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