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Mechanical Love edition

Previously on /coopg/: >>567943625

>Latest News/Updates

Darktide:
Skitarii Alpha Primus is coming to Warhammer 40,000: Darktide!
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/skitarii-alpha-primus-is-coming-to-warhammer-40-000-darktide/121730
Hotfix 1.11.6 - Patch Notes
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/hotfix-1-11-6-patch-notes/121381
Kuli's guides for beginners:
https://steamcommunity.com/id/kulii/myworkshopfiles/?section=guides&appid=1361210

Space Marine 2:
Patch Notes
https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/395-patch-notes-13-0
Dude Wall
https://dudewall.github.io/dude-wall/

Vermintide 2:
Weapon balance update! Patch 6.11.0 patch notes
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/weapon-balance-update-patch-6-11-0-patch-notes/121528

>Also Exist:
Deep Rock Galactic
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Ready Or Not
GTFO
No More Room in Hell 2
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Back4Blood
Earth Defense Force 6
WWZ
The Forever Winter
FBC: Firebreak
Killing Floor 3
Daimon Blades
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Far Far West:
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>Future games
Den Of Wolves - TBA
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>Build planners:

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Darktide: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor
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soon (not any time soon)
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TRUE GRIT?
MORE LIKE TRUE SHIT!
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Cadia?
More like CACAdia!
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>>568080749
>The cosmetic rewards are pretty cool though, we might get more with the new expedition mode.
Yeah, just like how we got more cosmetic rewards for havoc and mortis.
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Hang on tight Skitarii! It's going to be a bumpy ride through the nurgle infested wastes!
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Skitarii?
More like SKIBIDII
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>>568081229
What you think they're too lazy to palette swap the current reward armor to red?
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French?
More like AFRICAN!
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>>568080816
>So no stub weapons for the skittles?
They will certainly share most of the regular human class weapons. They will get the IAGs, BAGs and vigilants.
Which makes sense because otherwise the shittles would only have 3 melee weapons and 3 rannged weapons, which would only get FartShart get called lazy.
Which is even less than ogryn.
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Skitarii?
More like Shitarii!
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>Every lobby once Skitarii releases
Who do you think will be brave enough to give the clankers lip when picking them up off the floor?
My money is on Heavy Ogryn, assuming he doesn't get swayed by the idea of becoming the "Adamantium Orgyn, as big as a tank... No... Bigger!"
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>>568081406
Yes. Because if they wanted to, they would've already done that shit for Havoc.

Fatshark genuinely doesn't give a fuck.
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>>568081626
Bodyguard will mock them a bit.
>I think you need better legs, Tincan
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I don't think Cacarat is funny
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Deadshot?
More like Dead Shit!
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>>568081734
This guy?
More like Piss Guy!
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>>568082110
Noooooo!
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>>568081528
They'd still get lasguns, boltguns and the plasma gun even if they were the "no stub guns" class. It would make sense since the last two classes were "no lasguns" classes.
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Threadly reminder that the content islands exists for Fatsharks quarterly earnings report, and for pulling in fresh blood to replace those who burn out.
Once a player reaches "Saturation" where they stop spending money on cosmetics, they don't actually care that much if you quit immediately or keep playing for 10.000 hours
You're just there to keep the sandbox looking healthy, so that Fatshark can lure in new customers
>Meanwhile anyone who wants to follow the lore is getting table scraps at best
>There was always Skitarii on Tertium
It wouldn't be warhammer without a couple of retcons to make the story flow like a sewage drain after all.
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>>568082294
Skittles do use some stubbers. Admech specifically use things called stubcarbines and macrostubbers. Stubcarbines specifically are used by sicarian infiltrators.

Fatshark would realistically just the current autoguns in the game for this because they are effectively the same.
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>>568082386
There being skittles on Atoma/Tertium is the least lore breaking thing. Atoma has bunch of forges that are operated by the Mechanicus, so there being skittles there to guard them and protect them just makes sense. Also they'd make fine workers in a pinch if the Admech is getting desperate for manpower to run the forges.

But yeah, right about the rest. The entire game is centered aorund quarterly reports at this point, which will be the death of it in the long run.
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Which forge world you're gonna roll with? Stygies VIII for me.
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>>568083083
>which will be the death of it in the long run.
Nah the death of it will be the autists
Either by listening too much to them, and turning the entire game into havoc40 "Because it's so easy now"
Or by nerfing every fun exploit said autists abuse to make havoc40 easy
We aren't anywhere near maintenance mode yet, the game is still making money and getting fresh players
When we stop getting new classes / content islands? It either means its fucked, or Darktide 2 is right around the corner (So you can buy all your cosmetics a second time)
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>>568083189
I doubt they'll give us all 10
We'll probably only get 4 like the hive scum, or maybe 6 if we're lucky.
After all they needed to come up with a penance for each piece besides your starting faction so you can eventually gather them all.
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>>568083270
>We aren't anywhere near maintenance mode yet
We get only 4 "major" updates per year.
Which actually consists of 2 major and 2 minor updates. Major shit being DLC classes made from recycled content which continue to powercreep the game making it easier, and minor shit being the updates in-between the DLCs which give us amazing slop like, Expeditions, Mortis Trials, 3 new weapons (2 being useless variants (bolters) and 1 being a melee weapon for the ranged class (power falchion))

This game is firmly lodged into being purely maintenance now, the devs don't give a fuck anymore.
Why would they? They already know that skitarii despite being low effort content recycling, will still raise the player count to like 70 gorillion, while they go onto their 2 month vacation to do nothing while without fixing anything.
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>>568083558
>the devs don't give a fuck anymore.
I think it's just how their business practice functions, they're making licensed video games after all.
They know that there is a timer on their access to the GW brand
No one would have given a shit about vermintide if it was just 5 random goobers in a entirely new fantasy setting no one knew about
Same with Darktide,
Fatshark is smallfry in the eyes of Games Workshop, one of several gambles that ended up paying off
Darktide 2 seems like the logical next step, we're all basically helping beta test their shit before they release the "difinitive" darktide experience that everyone ends up playing after its release.

That being said
I'm still buying Skitarii and enjoying it to the fullest while the game lasts
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>>568083370
>After all they needed to come up with a penance for each piece besides your starting faction so you can eventually gather them all.
I thought there was an extensive customization system a-la For the Drip coming with the skittles?
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>>568083189
for me, it's metalica
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>>568083957
The customization will probably be for the metal parts under the robe, to compensate for the fact that they don't get a head model, since they all wear helmets and those will likely work like the current system. (Just compare the premium armor with the stock, the face and robes change, but the rest remains largely the same)
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I want to be a skitarii
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I bought Darktide.
I played for 8 hours.
I have been having fun.
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>>568085283
>spoiler
We don't do that here
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>>568085283
Hell yeah bro what class?
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>>568085283
if it wasn't 8 hours in expeditions then you're a bigot and racist
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>>568083957
>>568084135
>Though bound by the doctrines of the Adeptus Mechanicus, no two Skitarii are identical. Construct your Skitarii choosing material types, augment patterns and Forge World of origin. Choose from four distinct voice sets and then adjust the voice modulation to define your sanctioned configuration.
Sounds like we choose metal and lens colour (as per datamining) and "augment patterns could be something like limb options, since we see exposed arms and legs beneath the robes on both the default and deluxe outfit.
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>>568085372
I'm sure the cynicism will catch up to me eventually, but for now I'm enjoying the honeymoon.
>>568085404
Zealot. Mostly swinging around the eviscerator chainsword.
>>568085483
Guilty as charged.
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>>568083189
TRIPLE PHALLUS
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>>568086081
>Mostly swinging around the eviscerator chainsword
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>>568083189
I don't think we'll get forgeworlds proper. I think what we'll get are the admech forces that are native to the Moebian Domain.

So we are choosing if our skittles are from like Branx Magna, Crucis, Atoma Prime, etc.
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>takes me over 40 seconds to kill a mauler
Bros I don't think a taunt makes this worth it...
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>>568085557
>Construct your Skitarii choosing material types, augment patterns and Forge World of origin
This sounds neat on paper based on the cool words used, but here's what this probably actually means

>choose material types
This is most likely just you choosing color for metal parts. Ie. regular steel color or bronze or brass, etc. Maybe even lens color.
>augment patterns
This probably, maybe, means we get to choose what kind of STARTING arms or legs we get to have. But this will most likely work exactly how you outfit the human classes. Ie. you get a head slot, torso slot and leg slot. Skitarii getting extra slots so you can slot in like 2 different arm types is possible but I just don't see them doing it.
And I guess stuff like the penance cosmetics, are just part of the "augment patterns" anyway, just like rest of the classes get their outfits, but that'd make the whole "choose your augment pattern" section of the character creator kinda pointless.
>forgeworld origin
This seems straight forward, but it will have 0 effect besides what colorscheme you get.
But note this doesn't 100% guarantee we get stuff like Stygies 8, metallica, these could be OC donut steel stuff Fatshark itself has cooked up and got the green light from GW.

Regardless, basically none of this will have a bearing on anything gameplay related, which isn't surprising.
Like this doesn't whole too impressive to me.

I'll still buy the DLC since playing as a skitarii does sound neat.
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>>568083189
>atoman sector apparently cut off by warpstorms
>SOMEHOW every single forgeworld will send skittles to atoma
alright I need a LOREMEISTER to explain that
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>>568089342
stuff happened
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>>568089342
Somehow the skitarii returned
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>>568089342
'allowette called in some favors after 'adron offered to initiate vacuum action upon her genitalia and consume her excrement.
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>>568089342
all will be revealed in ther next Fortnite X Darktide collab event
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>>568089342
there are skittles present already
they came from a variety of forge worlds some time ago
the key difference with the warband ones is that hadron and mars friends figured out how to convert them into upspec models, and Grendyl can no longer tell his admech underlings not to recruit their own personal armies
>arbites was a failure of grendyl to keep local law out
>hive scum was a deal that rannick and zola cut with the locals, not grendyl
>skits are hadron and kharib getting their way, despite grendyl refusing to commission skitarii
he's losing control of the situation
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Why are people acting like there couldn't have been Skitarii on Atoma the whole time, unironically. We've been in a single Hive the whole time, a small part of said Hive. The moment we go outside it (expeditions) we start hearing rumblings indicating there's techpriests and crap around.

Instead people are acting like because they haven't seen them with their own eyes yet that means it doesn't exist. Isn't this literal toddler object permanence. It's so weird
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>>568081037
>>568081039
>>568081309
>>568081553
>>568081837
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>>568090558
they're calling it the most secondary post of all time
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>>568091101
Yours? Yeah makes sense, you don't seem to know anything about how insular the admech is
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>>568089342
Warpstorms spat out an old mechanicus vessel with skitarii?
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>>568091184
if only we had a member of the mechanicus onboard the mourningstar, one specifically looking for skitarri to recruit into the warband.
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i think i like skittles transports but what's with their flying units
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>>568086081
>New players enjoy expeditions
Good I got the feeling that it wasn't for veterans, which is fine since we have cock and ball torture AKA havoc 40 to bash out heads against
Enjoy the fun and good on you for not picking Veteran as your first class
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>>568091679
>what's with their flying units
Davinci x Dune ornithopter
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>>568083863
>No one would have given a shit about vermintide if it was just 5 random goobers in a entirely new fantasy setting no one knew about
You mean like elden ring/nightreign?
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>>568089342
>will send skittles to atoma
>will
They're already here, filthy rejects like us just haven't had the "pleasure" of encountering them in the steel
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THE TECNHICAL UNDERBELLY
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>>568091986
>You mean like elden ring/nightreign?
Fatshark isn't FROM soft
They aren't nearly as competent or creative
Demon's souls walked so Elden Ring could sprint
Also there was Dark souls 1,2,3 and bloodborne inbetween.
Also they paid George R Martin to put his name on it, for that game of thrones clout
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>>568088219
>Skitarii getting extra slots so you can slot in like 2 different arm types is possible but I just don't see them doing it.
The skit is a new "breed" in the code, ie a new bodytype so it's plausible.
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>>568092292
Only in the same sense that the Ogryn is a different "Breed"
It just means you cant use any of your human cosmetics on them just like the Ogryn
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>>568092292
I don't think it will happen, just based on looking the currently avaivable material we have for the DT skitarii, all the arms and legs are part of a set.
Like the arms always come in the same pair, and always paired with the same torso. Which is what you'd expect from a "shirt" cosmetic like all other classes have.
Fatshark just making it so that skitarii get the same 3 cosmetic slots still fit the "choose your own augmetics" angle and technically isn't wrong. Also, it is the least amount of effort to do.
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>>568092167
I should try Dark Soul II, hated ER but loved sekiro
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>>568093007
>but loved sekiro
You'd probably like Bloodborne then
Dark souls 2 really is a Kings Field game forced to carry the souls mantle
But if you wanna do the dark souls series, start with 1
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>>568093163
I tried 1 but got filtered by the giant dragon at the very start, I can't for the life of me emulate Bloodborne
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>>568093223
>I tried 1 but got filtered by the giant dragon at the very start
Anon I...
You can just go under the bridge and ignore the dragon entirely
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>>568093404
yeah but like, if I can't even beat one of the first and have to constantly read a wiki it's not fun
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>>568093454
>if I can't even beat one of the first
You're not supposed to fight it early on (or at all, it's entirely optional, hard stuff is generally optional), the game is teaching you to not fight every enemy you encounter head on.
You can cheese it with a bow however
Don't spoil yourself by looking at the wiki, that sense of figuring it out the first time around is magical and you can never recapture it
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>Choose from four distinct voice sets and then adjust the voice modulation to define your sanctioned configuration.
I hope you can sound like the mechanicus NPC if you pull the slider all the way through.
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>>568093770
fucking frenchoids ruined Mechanicus 2
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>>568094034
Suddenly the hatred for the french last thread makes a lot more sense
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>>568089342
Warpstorms decided they wanted skittles
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>>568093770
I hope there's a voice that's microsoft sam speech program unironically. It would be basically free for them to make but also incredibly funny
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I got 15 aquilas :)
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I asked AI to divide 500 into 7 for me, to give me a nice progression for players to look forward to
it told me
>5, 15, 30, 50, 75, 125 then 200 aquilas for the most satisfying, increasingly rewarding scale

It's funny how devs just let AI do everything today. They never stopped to wonder "maybe having half the steps at total dogshit worthless amounts isn't actually satisfying"
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>>568094574
>I asked AI
AI does not exist, you asked a learning algorithm from the 70s, run on warehouses filled with graphic cards running the same math over and over again
Refuse corporate branding, embrace reality and call it what it is
An algorithm
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>darktidefans make memes about purity seals on air conditioners
>meanwhile my church
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>>568094271
ARMS
OUTSTRETCHED
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>>568094271
That sounds. Sweet.
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>>568094887
Those are some nice icons
But damn that aircon looks like it might just be archeotech from a different century
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>>568094934
What is that from? It tickles my memory.
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>>568094887
Why your local conscripts didn't steal a modern one in Ukraine?

Oh they didn't come back?
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>>568095206
Jacket Payday 2
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>>568095206
Hotline Miami dude in Payday 2 telling someone to raise their hands
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Wow! Look at the Dark Rites counter goin so fast! wow wow wow wow wow! we're such an active community!
12 jewmillion skulls in only a few days, wow!
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>>568094574
would you rather them hire 6 million jeets?
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>>568095768
>>568095782
Right thanks, I knew it was familiar. It's been a hot minute since I last played pd2.
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>>568096045
who do you think the anti-ai crowd is?

jeets have been mad for the past 4 years that they can't get jobs on fiver anymore because everyone just uses ai. there are a ton of indian regions that are in economic crisis right now because of ai
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>>568094863
yeah sorry I should've put all these retarded qualifiers in my statement just so I dont accidentally commit a wrongspeak
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>>568096235
just to be clear but are you accusing me of being anti-AI because you can clearly trace their retarded decisions to AI prompts, using it for shit that AI sucks at?
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>>568096235
>who do you think the anti-ai crowd is?
Sure lets forget about the fact that they guzzle water and electricity like crazy, literally no one wants to live next to an AI data center
It fucks up the electrical grid with strain it was never meant for, usually without a single person living in the area getting asked
Anyone who actually buys AI hype is the dumbest double nigger that you can find
The only reason it's being propped up, is so that when all the companies fail, we'll get a repeat of the dot com bubble bursting, with lots of assets up for cheap and suddenly the state has a surveillance machine it could only have DREAMED of in the past
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>>568095664
American church. Keep seething
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>>568096454
and also >>568096045 are you saying that you need to hire a jeet to figure out how to make an event reward interesting?
It's kind of sad that you two think like this. Other studios just have a couple white people making good decisions, not outsourcing them to AI OR jeets. It's kinda retarded that you're equating game design to the monkey jobs that jeets/AI are ACTUALLY good for.
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>>568096454
im literally not the person you replied to, thats how 4chan works

im calling his anti-ai opinion a psyop that is run by indians
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>>568096565
Coincidentally, I am not the person you replied to either. Interesting how you'd make that mistake while trying to chastise me for it

>anti-AI opinion
saying that you shouldn't let AI design events for you isn't an "anti-AI opinion"
it's an anti-fucking-retarded-swede opinion. AI is good at many things in the game industry, hence why it replaces jeet asset monkeys en masse. Letting AI decide what event rewards in a live service game should be is heightened retardation.
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>>568096565
>indians run the world
LMAO
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>>568090318
Next we need something more of a reject vibe for next class. If there is a pattern of quality troop, scum(aka reject level troop), quality troop then reject level troop. Beastmen might fit that bill.
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>>568085283
How dare you utter that word
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>>568096842
it would explain how shitty everything is
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>>568097204
Beastman might be possible now that you mention it. Though I'd prefer if we got a longshank instead, but it would never happen because GW wouldn't let them, because there's no official art depictions of them.
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>>568098430
Jews are just indians who figured out hygiene
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>>568095206
>>568095768
>>568095782
honestly it reminded me of genestealers and their emperor, particularly from Day of Ascension
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>>568098787
ts the realest shit i ever heard
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>>568098787
antisemitism becoming mainstream is the most bizarre and vindicating thing to come so far
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>>568095816
Best post all thread I miss Mitsu…
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>>568095816
>12 jewmillion skulls in only a few days, wow!
It's weird seeing that people say Fatshark are fudging the numbers for this event, but they weren't fudging the numbers for the Expeditions event that required like 200 million techremnants or something.

Both are fudged because the devs know the game is in a death spiral.
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Skittles will save Fatshark this year
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>>568096235
>>568096565
>>568096729
It has been kind of funny watching them cry about it though
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>>568096515
people who run the world btw o algo
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>>568101602
to be honest ye, skittles is super hyped compared to arbites and scum (lel) easy 80k players new peak on release (arbi was like 44k)
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>skulls event makes grailtards and warrior cucks of sigmar even more cancerous
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>>568091797
Oh no, I meant I was guilty of being a bigot. Haven't touched the expeditions yet.
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What are the most fun weapons in Darktide? The crusher has started to grow on me.
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>complete weekly stratagem on hard
>30xp
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>>568103057
My favorites are the relic blades and the force greatswords.
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>>568103057
we lost another one to the meme stick, boys
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>>568103632
It has a solid moveset and has a nice gimmick as an aoe skrusher applicator. It's a pretty ok weapon in itself, it just has to compete with the rest of the zealot's and the arbie's arsenal.
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>>568103934
if uncanny got put on the chopping block I can't imagine skullcrusher has long left
I imagine they're just waiting until they can give ogryn melee weapon alternatives before narrowing him down to just fucking pickaxes after gutting it
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>>568079270
>>568079074
>>568078934
>>568078540
These posts make me sad but also laugh
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Outlast Trials on sale right now. Worth if I can only get 1 friend to join me on it?
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>>568104130
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WR76ni5wKZY
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>>568103574
I need to give zealot another try, the last time I played with the thunder hammer it felt too squishy with the martyrdom build.
>>568103632
It applies crusher, has good aoe and you can charge it up to stun bulwarks. Its also really good at staggering on arbites but I have to agree that the damage is abysmal.
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>>568103057
For Ogryn I like the Krouk mkVI Knife.
99% heavy attacks
Big cleave combined with Unstoppable Force let its normal heavies cleave through scab ragers, across bulwark shields, the stray mauler headbutting your attack, to hit everything.
Can build enough impact to knock around maulers and ragers as you cleave through them.
Anti-armour unique followup combo is good enough at killing crushers not to cause headaches.
Punch
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>>568103574
Definitely two of my favorites as well.

>>568104602
If you haven't played Zealot since the rework, Zealot got a lot more defensive options, so Martyr is quite a bit safer than it used to be. That said, TH is still going to be a bit risky 'cause of its moveset, so you'll have to play around that. Honestly, the TH is something I've always really wanted to like, but unless they've buffed it considerably since I last ran it, it's just not good enough to feel great to use.
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>>568104602
I give you permission to use an IJ build.
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>>568105203
>IJ
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>1 nanosecond away from stepping on the valkyrie after a long auric mission
>crash
>cant reconnect
>get nothing
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>>568092167
>Fromsoft
>competent
… maybe a certain era of them sure
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>>568105083
I played after the rework, I found the horde clear of the TH to be too shit to get over. You get hit by one or two pox walkers between heavy attack swings and get your HP burnt. The one shots on bosses aren't reliable either.
>>568105203
That looks even squishier than martyrdom.
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>>568091919
Wow that looks cool. We should be able to pilot one of these eventually. >>568089342
>>568090318
The Moebian domain is also a big place. There’s no reason other planets couldn’t have had skitarrii. It just took a while to get to AP.
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>>568104201
Absolutely. I don’t even play with friends and I’d still recommend it overall, but it’s definitely better if you can get more since things tend to be easier with communication. Regardless, still pretty solid fun.
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I might be retarded. I just noticed there is lore in the aquillas event screen at melk
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>>568108281
It's written like dev commentary which is kind of weird. Like who is the narrator in those texts?
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>>568108417
the god emperor
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>>568108417
my beloved
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>>568108281
>lore blurbs
I literally do not care.
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Saw an anon saying tac axe is fun on scum. Any recommendations for mark and blessings for it?
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>>568108417
no clue, it's about the ad mech so I guess it's meant to be lead in to the skitarii release
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>>568083863
Pretty much. They struck gold with these games and are never letting go. Although with their current resources and lack of staff I doubt we’re getting a new game in the foreseeable future, if at all
>>568098446
Are Longshanks even combat viable? I thought they just transported stuff?
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>>568109478
>lack of staff
Don't they have 200 people?
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ogryn daddy cawk
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>>568083189
Mars just looks too good.
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>>568104061
>I imagine they're just waiting until they can give ogryn melee weapon alternatives before narrowing him down to just fucking pickaxes after gutting it
I don't think they will even give anything to ogryn at this point. They'll just nerf skullcrusher and then kill the class.
I've wondered about those 2 handed hammers that got leaked few years ago and why they haven't been added, but I honestly do think the reason why they haven't added them is because the devs realized that a 2 handed hammer is literally fuck all different from a pickaxe in terms of moveset.
Wouldn't surprise me if ogryn suffers the fate of DLC classes, aka he never gets anything new for himself ever again.
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>>568111272
Craziest thing is that unarmed would be a very cool ogryn weapon type and it wouldn't even need a model. They're just not doing it because all their weapon design and animation work is going towards new classes, which can then be sold for 15 bucks. They don't care about making shit for the other classes anymore because they can't sell that.
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>>568108281
>40k lore
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>>568109478
>Are Longshanks even combat viable?
Probably not, they are basically humans who evolved in low or 0 gravity. So them stepping on a planet is impossible because it might break their bones unless they get a special harness to prop them up.
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>>568108417
>Like who is the narrator in those texts?
Nobody, it's just a narrator.
This isn't anything new to 40k either, sometimes there are a faceless/nameless narrator used.
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>>568111272
>2 handed hammer is literally fuck all different from a pickaxe
Hammers are cooler. They could have done something with slashing, piercing and bludgeoning damage but the ship has sailed on that front.
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>>568111768
It makes sense in some contexts, I just found it weird for the lore to be written like that in this specific circumstance. You'd expect it to be a history lesson or something but then it veers off into meta territory like "and thats why the warband never comes across skitariis"
Not like it's a big deal though, ultimately who cares, just stood out to me a little
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>>568111836
>They could have done something with slashing, piercing and bludgeoning damage
That's largely governed by the armor damage multipliers.
But honestly speaking, the hammers still wouldn't be any marginally different generally speaking.
Even if they'd tweak the AMD values, all the hammers would be is just a lazy pickaxe reskin.
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>>568112587
>>568111272
>>568111836
I think you could differentiate them via special attacks and swing patterns. It would be nice to have a fat twohander on Ogryn that is literally just the VT2 hammer, or the exec sword, swing pattern wise. Wide horizontals for cleave, overhead singletarget. Then you could make the special attack into a fuck off crusher overhead or something because it's fun.

It's been a while but I remember the VT2 hammer and pickaxe being mostly differentiated in thsi way too. The pickaxe had the gimmick with having thrust built in I guess.
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>>568104602
>>568106660
>zealot
>squishy
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Can someone give me the leaked abilities from the ukranian version for the skitts?
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>>568114324
Abilities never leaked, we only saw 2-3 talents on stream and it was just boring World of Warcraft shit like
>electrocuting an enemy adds 2 stacks of brittleness

the same old shit basically. Maybe blitz+abilities will be cool we'll see
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>>568105203
>>568105372
IJ is fun to use with the MkXII recon lasgun(the fastest firing one). Doubly so when you have a celerity stimm or a scum supplying you with the equivalent, but just with the +20% attack speed from IJ the MkXII recon las is an absolute laser hose. Far from optimal, but incredibly fun to use. Ironically if you just want to go BRRRT with a lasgun the best class for that is actually Zealot because IJ has basically 100% uptime, whereas achieving the same firing speed as Veteran requires you to engage enemies in melee all the time since Veteran's ranged attack speed buff comes from Weapon Specialist.
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>>568111461
I bought the weapon packs for killing floor, I'd buy a weapons pack for dorktide.
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>>568116239
Please shut the fuck up
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>>568116415
They won't sell them. They already promised that all content except classes would be free
And we all know what will happen if they go back on this, even if it's literally better for the game. People will immediately shit themselves because
>YOU PROMISED
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>>568112587
>>568113020
I think the thunder hammer and crusher are different enough despite both being two handed hammer type weapons. You could 100% make the Ogryn hammer feel different and good but I think Fatshark are too lazy to care. Its a shame because Ogryn really does suffer from a lack of weapons.
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>>568112587
>>568111272
What are you on about? The game is full of swords and they're all different. Hell, did you miss the whole weapon's mark thing?
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>>568110850
Probably less
>>568111578
That’s about what I thought
They could probably work as an NPC though
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>>568116681
People generally lack creativity when it comes to things like this. Before arbites came out I've seen people suggest it as a possible class, but it was always shut down as
>too much overlap
>he could basically only have mauls, shotguns and autoguns and we already have those
>there would be no way to set it apart from zealot

But the class ended up relatively fine and unique mechanically. There's still the odd or other coper who INSISTS that arbites it's ACTUALLY just vet with a dog despite everyone who has played both classes knowing that's bullshit.
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>>568116570
Just copy the coghammer
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>>568116526
>the truth
>has changed
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>>568111461
just use the punches and slaps that are already special attacks on existing ogryn weapons and maybe steal some more stuff from ratclick like the chaos warriors' or warrior priest's punches
and an unarmed overhead strike could just be literally the same animation from the cleaver's or club's heavy attack too, just remove the weapon model from the animation
maybe add brass knuckles or something so they can sell weapon skins, since money grubbing seems to be important to sw*des
or fucking these things
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30 DAYS UNTIL SKITARII
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>>568117983
Too many days, I wont make it bros..
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>>568102475
>skitarii trailer now has twice the views of hiv cum even though its been out for less than a week
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>>568102475
>>568118229
>fatshit gets 80-90k players they don't deserve
>they learn absolutely nothing and just continue to rot the foundations of the game power creeping it more
Probably better to stop playing, the game I like no longer exists and devs don't care.
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>>568083189
GIV my beloved
Or whatever cosmetic makes them look like a hobo from an abandoned forge world
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>>568116469
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>>568118229
>space cop
zzzzzzzzzz
>space hobo
honkshuuuu honkshuuuuu
>actual 40k shit that matters
REAL SHIT
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>>568116469
Too late. I'm already coming to your lobby.
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>brother gets Payday 2 and asks me to play with him
>been years since I last played Pissdie 2 so whatever
>do diamond store since it's easy
>not enough cables so we need to constantly yell at hostages
>"can't we just kill them?"
>bla bla lose money when shooting hostages bla bla
>have to dome a civ while transporting the bags to van
>"wait a minute... We lose 1k when shooting a civilian but we get 5k per bag..."
>hear gunfire coming from the store
>bain goes apeshit
>mfw
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>>568118229
I'll die on the hill that the Lex trailer was way cooler than the Skitarii one. The Adeptus Arbites are also cooler than the Mechanicus.
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Combat shotgun on a vet?
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>>568119560
The lex trailer had an actual concept that was unique to arbites. It wouldn't have made much sense if any other character was declaring crime codes over the vox or whatever to scare heretics.

Meanwhile the Hive Scum trailer and Skitarii trailer are just generic power fantasy. Nondescript locations, nondescript enemies. "Here, the superhero KILLS the baddies hard!" is the only concept shown and you're supposed to basedgape and clap
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>>568116681
>The game is full of swords and they're all different
And all of them suck and feel exactly the same. They are all bad.
>weapon marks
A useless system that is just made from the cannibalized weapon customization system and it shows.
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>>568120670
>And all of them suck and feel exactly the same. They are all bad.
What's funny is that the weapon often considered the worst in the game is a sword, and the weapon considered the best in the game is also a sword. The other swords are nicely spread inbetween with some being meta and some perfectly average and some on the weaker side.
They also feel completely different, you can not even remotely play a relic blade the same as you can a heavy blade.

Reductionism isn't really intelligent, it's just you trying to force square peg into round hole
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>>568120372
Best with Marksman's Focus to extend their effective killing range
Agripinaa, solid general purpose gun. High enough damage to easily headshot gunners/specials out to mid-range, with the slug for long range and carapace.
Zarona, fun with the discount kickback attached to it for trash clearing.
Accatran, I find it better as a zealot sidearm.
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>>568119560
You're correct. The scum and now skittle trailers look pretty bad. I'm 100% sure they were made with AI.
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8-0-Maton
or
5318008-07734
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>>568121015
>you can not even remotely play a relic blade the same as you can a heavy blade.
You can and you do, turlostky mk6 is just heavy -> light combo for hordes which is the same for both relic blades. The power activation itself is just you pressing a button to get a sword that now cleaves through everything and does passable damage to crushers. Like relic blades are just heavy swords but better in everyway.
Devilclaws aren't any better, just heavies.

Darktide suffers from weapon bloat, but nobody is confident enough to talk about it or to open that can of worms. Like yes, we totally needed 9 version of an autogun, 9 versions of a lasgun, and 7 different families of sword that act and are used practically the same way.
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>>568121880
eheheh boobies
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>>568119560
I agree, even though i want the skitarii more
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>>568119380
Civvies are the devil so going postal is 100% understandable
With how easily any stealth attempt can get ruined by like one chode seeing a suspiciously placed bag or some dude shitting and pissing himself from like 50 miles away, at some point you're gonna be paying the cleaner enough to buy a house.
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>>568122021
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>>568119560
the skit trailer sucks because they really wanted a big lead up to the reveal and showed as little as possible before it
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>>568122021
King of bad takes. Why is literally everything you post completely retarded?
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>>568121452
Thanks.
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>>568118229
wow it's almost like people want cool space soldiers and not lame reject shit
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>>568122315
ok.
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>>568122838
>>568122021
Relic blade plays nothing like the heavy sword, you're just being reductionist again. They neither have the same capabilities nor do they actually play the same gameplay experience wise. Besides, you claimed ALL swords are the same so I'd love to hear how hard you must dial up the reductionism to explain how the dueling sword plays just like the devils claw sword.

You are correct about weapon bloat though. But that's because the mark system is obviously rushed, shoehorned and bad and stands in the way of properly balancing the game. There's 9 autoguns, but 3 worthwhile distinctions between them. The other minor variants just make balancing needlessly complex
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>>568122315
>>568122838
You guys just doing this just proves I'm right.
>but muh reductiveness
Being reductive isn't bad, it is important because it lets you see things with clarity and see what the stuff actually is and what it means for the over all game.
Like take devilclaws, it has a parry mechanic. Wow, something unique, oh wait not actually because the dueling sword stole it. Then we get heavy sword where the special is just another swing, which applies 10% brittleness because...? It just does?
Like is there an actual reason for heavy sword to even exist when you think about it? No.

This is what I mean by weapon bloat, we have boat loads of actual useless sticks that play the same 95% of the time and have no real reason or purpose to exist besides being filler.
All of which is just a relic from a bygone era of when basically everything in this game was centered around RNG slop in some form. Most of the weapons were genuinely useless filler by design because the game was designed as a gacha slop to maximize player "retention", the devs knew this and did it intentionally.

Shit like hammer for ogryn would just be a lazy pickaxe reskin, can't use the pull special because karsolas and borovian took it, can't use the stab because branx has it. So what are you left with exactly? A generic fucking swing like on the heavy swords?
The hammers aren't even power hammers based on the 3D models so you can't even give them power activation to make them feel interesting.
>but what about crowd control
Means absolutely nothing because because pickaxes already stagger the fuck out of everything and they also both retarded amount of cleave and damage as well.
Even movesets mean nothing
>moveset centered on horizontals and verticals for single target damage
This is just Karsolas again.
>moveset made of verticals and few horizontals
This is just Branx again

What is left? Making them slower? Oh great, you made pickaxes but slower, oh wait, this shit is just Branx, again.
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>>568118229
And other outcomes everyone saw coming
>>568119560
>>568120614
This is true though
It was better animated, better choreographed/timed, just all around more impactful
The end scene where the dreg gunner fires into nothing out of desperation and gets his head blown off before zooming into the Arbies reloading his shotgun and the dog growling and looking menacing still gives me chills and I go back to watch it every now and then
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holy wall
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>>568125935
Which two weapons would you say are sufficiently differentiated?
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>>568125935
Retarded autist
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>>568125935
>Being reductive isn't bad
Depends on context and how far you take it. When you reduce something so far that you've discarded actually meaningful differences just so that you can go, "look thing x and thing y are the same!" you're just lying. By all means, respond asking me how you're ignoring meaningful differences as though you don't actually know.
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>>568125935
>A generic fucking swing like on the heavy swords?
I literally said that earlier and you seemingly ignored it, but a big fuckoff crusher overhead that roots you. Should bonk elites hard and literally turn lesser enemies into chinese factory accidents
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>buffing a bunch of weapons no one will ever use instead of giving us more like they said us would
ratchads have been had
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>>568125935
>everything is identical if you reduce things to a subatomic level, don't you see
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>>568129649
nikke class when?
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This? This is what sovl looks like
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What's the difference between the 2 HIV pistol marks?
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Why is everyone hyping up skitzos, the gameplay loop isn't going to change, it will just be a couple new weapons that are good for horde or single target and some voice lines

That's worth 15 bucks?
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>>568130984
It's basically weapon packs with extra steps so yeah I'm kinda fine paying 15 bucks for a weapon pack. The new character thing is mostly annoying because I have to go through the leveling process again
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>>568130984
You can say that about any class
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>>568081626
What do you mean? Most of them are probably going to get mouthy with them like they do with everyone else
>>568083083
Atoma, like most Hive Worlds, is also fucking huge. It’s not surprising it took them a while to get to us with Tertium in disarray.
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I always pick up plasteel and diamonds no matter how far they are, and if leave one behind I feel extremely distressed the entire mission.
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>>568131921
>open crate
>only plasteel and diamantine inside
>leave it
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>>568131791
Yes they are all an insane waste of money that has ensured the devs will not bother working on the base game at all when they can just easily have people pay more than the entire game for a new set of weapons
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>>568094887
Jesus. I don’t think I’ve seen an AC like that in about a decade at this point. >>568095816
Cute.
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>>568127050
Rashad and dueling sword mk4.
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>>568132191
Any class
Including the base classes
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>>568132236
They both do the same things though. Light spam for hordes with limited effectivity, you use the heavy attack for single target strikedown, and they both excel at the same targets. The special on the rashad is just a CC move of sorts, which was the exact same on the dueling sword before they changed it, but even the new parry is used in the same way. A crusher is aiming an overhead at you? Special attack button, fixed.
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Why do Ogryns only get one frag bomb? It feels like the devs have such a hate boner for this class.
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>>568102957
>Nightlord Hyde
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>>568132147
It would be legit evil if you tagged them before leaving
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>>568132718
Good idea actually
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>>568130963
Mk II - alternate fire causes enemies to release a small aoe of chem toxin on death. Lets you use it as trash clear if you're bored or on the run.
Mk VI -
Applies an additional stack of chem toxin on headshot or crit. Useful if you like to magdump into priority targets to kill them faster, but if you prefer to run down the chem clock it does not affect the breakpoints for minimum shots against most targets compared to the mkII,
Alternate fire causes enemies to explode on death for minor stagger; minor bonus in a running battle where every inch of breathing room helps.
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>>568128006
So your solution is to just make a pickaxe that gets an attack that does a retarded amount of damage on 1 generic swing?
This shit is quite literally just fucking Branx with Thrust. This is why I ignored this in the first post because it is genuinely boring.

Absolutely riveting game design.
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>>568132589
Ogryn makes them work harder so they’re spiteful to its players
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>>568132589
Because it can insta wipe an entire room by itself?

Retard
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>>568133146
Wish a single sheet of toilet paper could wipe my entire ass
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>>568133146
>Because it can insta wipe an entire room by itself?
Then why does Ganger get 3 missiles?
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>join an auric pre-game lobby
>the h23 pubbie leaves
>mfw
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>>568134716
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>>568134716
balance!
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>>568133118
No? It could have horizontals and strikedowns instead of the mixed diagonals pickaxes have
It could even have combos like the warrior priest hammer which feels amazing

I don't know why you're so autistically fixated on insisting that these two weapons MUST be the same when we literally have precedent, VT2, where those weapons are nothing alike
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Since I'm negative nancy, here's an actual new and unique hammer weapon for ogryn

Shield and hammer:
>good against crowds and stagger for stagger
>special attack is ogryn throwing the hammer which does kill specials in 1 hit and does decent damage to elites
>special can briefly stun monstrosities if it hits a weakspot
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>>568135779
What about throwing hammers and they work like saltzpyre's pistols
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>>568135779
That's just the exact same as the maul and shield he already has. It's literally just the maul and shield except it has a hammer throw that's functionally the same as the rock. Really dude?
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>>568135779
What about a poo pee weapon where primary fire throws handfuls of shit and secondary fire charges up streams of piss?
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>>568135205
>It could have horizontals and strikedowns
This is just karsolas. Karsolas push attack chains into heavy strike down which combos straight into light strike down instantly, and basically rest of the moveset is horizontal swings.
And again, making a weapon special which amount to just being a generic swing, but it then does fuck load of damage arbitrarily is genuine slop.
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>>568136291
And despite it's still more unique than a pickaxe reskin.
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>>568136335
That's the flamestaff.
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Power Sword & Crusader shield for Zealot
Censer flail (or mace) utility weapon which leaves small clouds of incense that slow enemies for Zealot
Hand-flamer for Zealot
Thunderhammer Rework for Zealot
Two melee slots for Zealot
Full robe cosmetic for Zealot

Fatshark please add all of these and I will play your game more as the Zealot
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Just give the 2 handed Ogryn hammer a special attack where its an overhead with a big windup but it has an aoe knockdown for all enemies.
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>>568103057
>The crusher has started to grow on me.
How?? It's so ass...
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make the ripper gun a melee weapon with a special activation that fires it.
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>>568138342
Are you only able to have fun when using the most broken meta slop?

Do you even have fun in this game or does it just serve to scratch an autism itch
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>>568136509
No, the karsolas does not have horizontals, try again
Perhaps the funniest part about your utterly autistic insistence that 2h hammers could NEVER be different from pickaxes, your idea of a "different" weapon here >>568135779 is hilariously just the existing shield with a rock on special
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>2022+4
>still no melta
>Thunder Hammer still pretty doo-doo
>Ogryn weapons don't exist
>no poleaxe or halberd
>no 2H chainaxe
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>>568139092
explain how the meltagun would be different from a recon las reskin WITHOUT being trans
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>>568138693
>Are you only able to have fun when using the most broken meta slop?
Not at all, heck my favorite thing lately is a melee veteran build. The crusher just feels like fucking ass to use, big ass slow heavy thing with a dogshit sprint and it hits like you're swinging around a foam bat. I've tried to make use of it a couple of times now on both zealot and arbie and just been like "Wow this is so awful compared to any other weapon I could be using"
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Once again suggesting that they should make a "big bag of rocks" as an ogryn weapon, just a big sack of pain that you swing around sort of like a flail weapon would function. Alt fire is throwing a handful of rocks from the bag like a shotgun blast
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>>568139297
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>Ogryn art has a rumbler and shield
>not available as an option in game
So this is the power of 200 swedes.
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>>568140019
Good idea.
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>>568139297
He said melta, not hellgun, you fool, you absolute buffoon.
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>>568139297
this >>568141585
But hellgun would have a heat mechanic
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>>568130984
HIV sCUM and Arbitrator's gameplay are nothing alike. And I like new weapons.
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Did they nerf the arbiters dog? It used to torpedo pounce specialists before they could catch you but now it keep staring at you and wont move unless you tag something.
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>>568148339
It still does this. They haven't changed its behavior since launch.
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>>568148339
read your talents little nigga
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It’s a shame that games like far far west can only be released in early access. this would be such a good game if it was finished and had like expansive content.
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>haven't played game in months
>expecting to play pretty mid
>completely destroy, like I never stopped playing at all
Feels good man
In non-blog news, Eviscerator Zealot on crit build feels outstanding now. Whatever they changed with chain weapons a while back was fucking awesome.
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>>568149452
tru fpr the evisc and chaxe. The 1h chain sword could use a little bump.
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Delete Mobian 21st from the fucking Havoc rotation.
I'm so fucking sick of being the only person on the team actually bringing horde clear build.
>Uhhhh sorry bro, 1 shitter hit me in the back, don't know where he came from
Oh idk, maybe it's because IT'S A FUCKING ENDLESS HORDE MODIFIER YOU STUPID FUCK
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>>568149683
I'm not surprised. The 1h sword was pretty shit before.
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>>568151038
Do havocsissies not communicate about the team comp before starting their missions?
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>>568152656
You autistic fucks are to too socially inept to ever let anyone hear your permastuck, lispy, queer voice to ever turn on a mic.
You bet everyone else is at least 3x as bad.
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>>568119560
It's not really an unpopular opinion my guy, well, about the trailer that is. I like Skitussy a lot more as a character concept but that's personal taste. The arbites trailer was kino regardless
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>>568151038
>host
>check modifiers
>oh we'll need horde clear for this one
>accept two horde clear guys
>ok
>win
Was that so fucking difficult?
>but I don't wanna host!
lol
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>>568153015
You ever heard of a keyboard bro?
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>>568153294
>Y-y-y-y-y-y-y-yo.....
>uhm... like... does your k-k-keyboa-
SPEAK UP YOU WEEABO FUCK
I CAN'T HEAR YOU OVER ALL THE TEST ROARING THROUGH MY BODY
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>>568151038
I look like this and say this
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>>568153761
I ain't turning down my music to hear niggas squeak in VC. Read, nigga, use your eyeballs.
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Anyone playing deep rock galactic rouge core?
Depth 4 solo feels like cock and ball torture.
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>>568154482
Thanks for proving my point.
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>>568155028
Your point was retarded. People can still communicate in text to coordinate team comp, voice has nothing to do with your problem.
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>>568155523
Keep pretending that that you're too cool to care while ignoring the literal easiest form of communication in the world lispy.
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>>568155706
>I don't want solutions, I want to complain
woman behavior
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>>568151038
>his havoc randoms don't do horde clear
Lucky, all of mine literally do nothing except hit mobs leaving me with every single elite, ranged elite, specialist, disabler and monster
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>>568156032
>He says while hiding behind a gacha game avatar and ignoring chats telling him to turn on his mic.
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>>568154610
>Anyone playing deep rock galactic rogue core?
No, it's genuinely just not fun for me. GSG had lightning with a bottle in DRG, but they have now proven themselves unable to recreate it with not one, but two lousy spinoffs back to back plus a fucking boardgame, what on earth were they thinking
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>>568156374
Honestly, I believe it could be fun, if they gave you half of the fun guns that DRG has.
All of the guns fucking blow and they don't realize giving everyone single target skills+guns/barely helpful skills isn't a replacement for horde clearing.

I have fun when I get a build going, but I'm losing 60% of my games because the gun upgrades suck, and I'm not getting skills that can mob clear.
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>>568156032
You didn't have to call him out like that...
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>>568139297
>WITHOUT being trans
rent free
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>>568154610
rouge core?
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>>568153761
Actually, first of all, Anons message didn ot start with the word "does." You simply replaced the word to make your little, uh, "joke" work. Second of all he was not stuttering. It's clear to me that you simply opted to portray him that way to talk down to him, because you believe that someone who stutters is not intelligent.

"Humanity is Overrated" -Arthur Schopenhauer
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CRUSHERS could be here
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>>568157082
Sexual appeal peak right here for humanity.
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>>568157082
Built for Tails (and also me)
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Are captain bosses immune to damage while their shields are up or are they still getting fucked up by DoTs under that?
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>>568157082
>rouge core
>trans sonic
sega is relevant again baybeeeee
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>>568151038
my problem is the randomness to the special spawn rate
some games we get an army of poxbombers, and some we do not, even though we're not playing with the pox modifier
also I wish they would nerf the spawn rate to boss spawn too, it's just too much and it's not fair that everyone got their true survivor penance when havoc wasn't as hard as it is now
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>>568161065
They can still take dot damage if applied while their shield was down
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>>568161256
Too many people got it back when it was too easy. They should have to redo it to keep the title
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What kind of penance is constantly drugging yourself and your team? I'm not exactly feeling the religious spirit.
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How many people fell for this?
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>>568163441
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>>568163484
I almost did, but the weird way the hand gripped the sword threw me off
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>>568163484
>blurry
>low res
as we head into the near future, you should always be dismissive of anything that fits into this category
it's becoming a very common tactic to make AI generated images look "acceptable"
give me the pixels or it's sloppa
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>>568163484
Almost no one
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There were several leaks. There was no reason to fall for the scribetranny's hoax
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>>568161065
Only bleed goes through void shields and hits the health bar directly
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>>568119560
>Lex trailer was way cooler
100% true. there is nothing special about this one.
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>>568166875
they were counting on a captive audience and the reveal being the big moment, with that gone the trailer falls flat
it is impossible to recapture the moment before you knew skitarii was coming to darktide
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>>568167038
I knew beforehand though
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>>568161256
My only problem with Havoc rn is how retardedly strong ranged mobs are.
It's so fucking strange that enemies that are just designed to ping you once in a while will just kill you out of the blue if you leave even one alive when there is 500 of them at all times.

No idea why people aren't complaining about this more.
Regular ranged mobs are the entire reason why everyone hates open maps and the suppression system is, and always have been, an unfunny joke.
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>>568170898
because everyone who plays havoc is trying too hard to pretend it's fair and engaging difficulty
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>>568170898
>No idea why people aren't complaining about this more.
Last time I played Havoc, ranged enemies were reasonably close to how they were in Damnation on release, so most people playing Havoc were either already used to that or just needed a short adjustment period. I'm not a fan either, to be frank. I didn't like how strong basic shooters were on launch, and I don't like how strong they are in Havoc, but there's a lot about Havoc that I don't find very fun (and it pretty much all revolves around what they do with the numbers attached to players/enemies).

Also, I'm sure anyone complaining at this point will get shit on by the (presumably existant, since this kinda thing tends to be) Havoc defense force comprised of the portion of Havoc players who think it's a perfectly fine mode with no issues, and anybody who has criticisms about it is just bad.
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>leveling psyker
Fuck this is miserable. Am I doing something wrong?
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>>568171746
You're probably not taking cover behind everyone else on the team like a bitchmade pussy, like actual psyker mains.
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>>568171746
Probably
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>>568170898
yeah the shooters are a menace right now.
I basically can't win 40s without taking shriek psyker and tagging entire hordes of gunners. the big problem is that there really isn't any other class designed to deal with that threat en masse in the same way; veterans are just too slow to deal with small gunners along with elites and specials, arby dogs are also way too slow, scum with needler or bolt pistol is a lot closer due to looser ammo economy but it's not even close.
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>>568171746
ye
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>>568172179
It's probably that now that I think about it. Not really accustomed to being a support in games like this.
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>>568173508
He's just being a little retarded faggot. No one can support you but yourself
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What's it like having friends you can actively play the games you like with
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>>568173924
Wouldn't you like to know?
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>>568170898
How could my wife Raph do this to that poor rabbit…
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>>568173816
Well then i guess i just suck with psyker. Leveling hasn't been a problem for me until now.
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Jesus, the jump in Darktide from Malice to Heresy is brutal, malice you can get by fine with bots but Heresy I can't even get past the first big spawn in any mission, even with """human""" players
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>>568175283
Adorable.
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>>568175283
Just wait until you get to Damnation. Your anus is going to be worn by Nurgle like a newly bought coat.
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>>568175283
What class?
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>>568175553
At least the higher I go the better others will be so they can carry my bullshit better
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>>568175283
Are you dodging? Blocking? What level are you?
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>>568175775
The jump from heresy to damnation is like that. You can get carried h0rd in damnation
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>shopclick on sale
what do
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>>568175283
Ah, I remember when I was this new. Your weapon levels and builds are the block at this point by the way. Play heresy for a while and get your chosen weapons up to 500, don't sacrifice the random rolls to Hadron for mastery levels, you're better off discarding them for the materials and dockets.
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>>568176653
BUY BUY BUUUUY!!!
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>>568175775
>the higher I go
>the better others will be
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>>568175753
judge dredd

>>568176250
26, yes I block and dodge

>>568176723
Yeah I think it's time I look into talents, maybe my current build is shit, and yeah my weapons are sub-300, I'll get on that

A question, how does the mastery system work? By unlocking the blessings, does that I mean I now can get said blessings on my weapon at random, via some vendor I have not paid attention to, etc.?
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>>568177197
Unlocking blessings on the mastery screen for a weapon lets you apply those blessings at will when tweaking them with Hadron. If you haven't unlocked her yet, wrap up the campaign missions.
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>>568177197
You can go to hadron and replace perks and blessings on gear as long as you have them unlocked in your masteries
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>>568175283
Hey cutey.
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>>568177197
>yeah my weapons are sub-300, I'll get on that
Here's a tip on that, roll profane weapons from Brunts shop for weapons with ideal stat distributions and upgrade those, Hadron can increase rarity and weapon level, it'll save you materials in the long run. You can ask around here for what weapons need what stat distributions, but generally what you're looking for is an 80/80/80/80/60 with the 60 being on whatever stat you want to dump, usually Mobility. It can cost a lot in dockets, so your rando weapons will be decent enough on Heresy for the time being while you build up a stockpile.

You can also check out Melk's shop for higher level weapons once you hit 30, the stat distribution on them is usually not ideal, but they work well enough up to Damnation since the enemies have lower breakpoints. If anyone here is kind enough, they can run you through some lower level havocs each week so you can pick up the material crates, that'll help a lot.
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would it be best to get into dark tide solo now or wait for the dlc class?
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>>568178221
Play it now, get a feel for it and see if you even like the gameplay enough to buy the DLC
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>>568178221
I think it had a bump in sales because of the discount, but I don't really have trouble finding games otherwise anyway. You don't really *need* friends to play
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>>568178221
The sooner the better, because you'll want materials stocked up to max out the weapons and cruios as quickly as possible
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>>568177936
>>568177297
>>568177338
Thanks anons, I was having ___fun___ on Malice and the game doesn't really make you engage with the stats/rarity/blessings system since you can just wing it, getting to Heresy was like hitting a brick wall
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>>568178459
I don't think the game really explains it very well. A lot of my friends that picked it up needed explanations for all this shit too. one of them just didn't know about loadouts. That was a surprising one
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>>568178459
Heresy is when your weapon level starts to matter, Damnation is a build and blessing check, Auric is a skill check. Each of these three difficulties comes with a bump in spawns and breakpoints on enemies that make passing DPS and damage avoidance checks harder, while Heresy and Damnation can be brute forced, playing Auric well has to be learned.

My advice is don't ignore the utility of blocking, pushing, dodging and sliding since your Toughness will become less effective at letting you avoid damage the higher up you go in difficulty at this point. Blocking and pushing works in a 360 degree arc, dodging and sliding can help you avoid taking chip damage from gunners. Head over to the psykhanium if you want to practice doing those things to get them into your muscle memory.
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>>568178221
now, so you can grind the Xp for multiclass weapons to make the skittussy leveling less painful
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>>568156374
>>568156768
I'm mostly annoyed by not being able to stack classes. I'm an autist who plays only one class for like 1000+ hours in the games I play. I get the idea that "Stacking abilities is OP", but in my opinion, in every case of that it's just because the ability is to strong in the first. And you just end up with "must run kits" when you let that be a crutch to 'fix' blance.
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>>568178221
It's on a pretty big sale right now. If you clear the current event you also get a pretty decent stack of resources that will make mastering weapons easier.
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>>568179917
>I get the idea that "Stacking abilities is OP"
That's the funny thing though, stacking classes wasn't OP in vanilla DRG--very frequently the opposite, in fact, because the kits in the first game were (in spite of what some contrarian anons may argue) extremely well-balanced with each other. The fact that Ghost Ship couldn't replicate that in RC, even at this early stage in development, is very much a worrisome portent of things to come imo.
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>>568180110
Well that's because DRG is pretty balanced. You only get the 'stacking is broken' thing when stuff is already broken. Or rare cases like an ability that is "team does 1.3 times more damage" and it stacks with it's self or something, but I don't think that in this game and it's simple to just not make that stack
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Can you still stunlock DH with ogryn slap?
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>>568180794
you used to, but according to this vids comment section it's not possible anymore

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7C9i0POrLFQ
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done with the event
I will not be logging into darktide except to claim my welfare aquilas from now until skitarii release
I find the thought of playing darktide as anything other than skitarii disgusting now
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>>568181457
wasn't a terrible event i must say ,save for the ventilation purge jumpscares
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>>568170898
It used to be worse. Ranged enemies are the 2nd weakest they've ever been (the lowest point for them was when the dodge linger time was bugged). Before havoc 2.0 the meta was to bring two bubble psykers to survive gunner hell.
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>>568181614
I think it's great. I'm fucking zooming around chopping hordes and picking people up when they catch an overhead. It's sick
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where were you when they ruined the "these stairs go up" joke
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>>568161256
PlayerProgression says I got true survivor 7 times.
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This is my highest overkill yet
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>>568164746
I feared that the leaks were too fan servicy to be true and allowed doubt to poison me
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>>568186482
>he still alphatests that
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>>568138771
Shield with throwable hammers is still more interesting and unique mechanic wise, than making a pickaxe reskin where one generic attack arbitrarily does stupid amount of damage for no real reason.
Funny you call me autistic, when you yourself autistically insist that a karsolas reskinned as a hammer would be totally different weapon.
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>>568186504
blessed is the mind too small for doubt
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where's the promised premium skitarii dress
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>>568186907
Its just something to play before the new poe2 league. I think I misjudged rogue core. In the lower depths with more floors you can really get a build going properly.
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>>568187657
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>>568188091
oh so you just like to pay 30 dollars to test shit for devs
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What exactly does the energy mechanic of the Skitarii do? I still don't get it.
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>>568188227
We shall soon find out. Maybe it's like the psyker greatsword special
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>>568188227
Nobody knows. My prediction is that you can take "battery" talent nodes to make the FPV skull gooder.
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>>568188159
If you play darktide you have no room to talk. The game was unfinished for 2 years.
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>>568188601
It's finished?
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>>568188651
It will be if they fumble the skittlerius.
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>>568188227
A specific set of talents that impose a limit on the amount you can take, which will be used to balance the talent cog which obviously doesn't have a way to lock out choices like the waterfall talent trees do. It is the lowest effort system I can think of to fit the bill. If they want to be fancy some talents will cost more energy than others, so your mixing and matching will require a bit more thinking.
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alright, how we cheating sm2 ordeals
>play 100 absolute missions as ever class
I ain't doin this shit
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I want dual chain axes for the ogryn and I want them yesterday
BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD
SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE
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does anyone have the exact numbers of what buffs the skull buffs give you in the Vermintide 2 skull event?
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>>568190949
KL 1 = 15% Power Level
KL 2 = 12% Attack Speed
KL 3 = 20% Crit Chance
KL 4 = 20% Movement Speed
KL 5 = 25% Cooldown Regeneration (this works on OE ult!)
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>>568190282
Would be cool but probably a bit dangerous for everyone else…
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>>568175283
>>568177197
>judge dredd
Honestly, the best advice is to just pick a shitload of toughness recovery talents. Arbitrator should play itself at that point.
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>>568177197
Post your build. Arby should not be struggling if your are blocking and dodging properly. t. newfag who also started recently
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So this is the power of female dwarfs
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>>568193057
She's... beautiful
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>>568193057
I...thank you
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>>568193057
who asked for this
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>>568193057
how accurately dwarven
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>>568173924
It's amazing. Or used to be.
Unfortunately none of my friends care to play Darktide because it's too hectic for them. They refuse to learn how to fight so all they can do is play Arbites and light attack spam literally face tanking the enemies until we reach a difficulty where this is no longer viable and they give up.
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>>568194101
My friends bought darktide on release than quit. I picked it up recently and asked them to play. My friend rage quit in a heresy game and uninstalled.
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>>568194817
heresy is the great supershitterfilter
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>>568188114
I'm still correct.
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>>568194101
>They refuse to learn how to fight so all they can do is play Arbites and light attack spam literally face tanking the enemies until we reach a difficulty where this is no longer viable and they give up.
Fuck you, stop peeking into my lobby. I just need to carry hard enough, we'll get out of havoc25+ hole eventually.
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>>568194101
I don't get why they can't learn it
A lot of them I play MOBAs with so they've learned (to varying degrees) much harder and unintuitive mechanics than blocking dodging and sliding
They of course are zoomers who grew up playing CoD so they already have the fps basic FPS skills
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Fatshark you swiggers where my 2h chainaxe ?!
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>>568195847
Most peeps want to click heads with guns that go pew, the mere existence of mixed combat with first person block/parry/dodge/slide fries the brain of the average headclick toddler and thus they default to playing helldivers/drg/farwest. Like I get adrenaline spikes when I am knee deep in a mixed horde slicing some fools, quick swap delete some specialists while the melee is staggered, back to shanking a horde while dancing with multiple mauler overheads coming my way. No wonder many people bounce off in the higher difficulties. Their brains must overheat.
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>>568196225
>Most peeps want to click heads with guns that go pew
That's me. I was super disappointed I can't do that, because the rest I already could do in ratclick. In Darktide I wanted to shoot, I made veteran, I played exclusively veteran using exclusively ranged weapons, until at some point game said "fuck you" and I had to start using all the shit I already did for years in Vermintide.
In the end I'm still enjoying it because mechanically Darktide is really good, but man I wish I could just shoot heretic heads 24/7.
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>>568196560
haha sorry no can do, just like vermintide it's gonna spawn a lone trash behind you while you aim haha
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>>568196560
>I was super disappointed I can't do that, because the rest I already could do in ratclick. In Darktide I wanted to shoot
just play scum with the dakka/autododge ability, never not stop shooting
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>havoc 40
>ogryn is unironically TOOOOONKING with virtually no damage dealt
>bubblecuck psyker is constantly lagging behind and anchoring the team
>we didn't make any progress for the first two waves (wtf?)
>later a burgle spawns in a good defensible position
>no bubble
>no piss tag
>everyone panics and splits up
>???
>everyone but me dies
>even 2 minutes of kiting in circles unfortunately couldn't salvage the situation
How do these retards even get True Survivor? Fucking dire.
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>>568197046
TS penance is luck based, not skill based.
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>>568197527
How lucky of me to get no death havoc 40s multiple times per week. I must be sucking up all the luck from everyone else
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>>568197650
you sure do love sucking yourself
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>>568197650
Yeah, you are lucky. You have a team not made of shitters.
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>>568197527
>>568197726
No it's two layers. Skill based because you have to play well enough yourself to not die and not fuck the rest of your team with weird escapades. Then you have to also pray your retarded faggot psyker doesn't blow himself up which is luck
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>>568197674
And you just suck ass and are coping with your lack of true survivor
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>>568197763
your prediction also sucks because I do have TSuck!
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>>568197790
In your case it really was luck
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>>568197850
I lack skill because I do not agree with you uh
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>>568197887
Because you're retarded and inexperienced, which is also why you disagree with me
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>>568197946
I started the disagreeing here, fucking cattle
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>>568197046
>ogryn is unironically TOOOOONKING with virtually no damage dealt
What's wrong with tank Ogryn? I know gunners rape you in half a second but surely the aoe taunt is good for the team.
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>>568197987
The fuck does that matter, you retarded shitter? For people like you who suck ass and can only hope to get carried, havocs seem completely luck based and out of your hands when in reality it's mostly skill based and entierly in the hands of better players than you
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>>568198478
He was planting his shield half the time.
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>somebody says anything besmirching about TS
>immediatly somebody crawls out of the woodwork like a roach saying how good he is and starts arguing
>thread "brown-ness" immediately rises noticeably as well
I'm noticing a pattern
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>>568198546
Havoc completely mindbroke darktards.
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>>568198546
>retarded shitter is wrong
>good players voice their disagreement
>retarded shitter thinks the illuminati is behind it
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>>568198706
Brown
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>>568198842
Wouldn't it just make the fact that i'm better than you even more humiliating for you?
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>>568198540
Kek. I've been playing Ogryn recently and run the shield with the bleed node and spam heavy attacks. Its still dogshit damage but at least you can DoT maulers.
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>>568198924
You're not better.
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>>568199027
What would a worthless, hard-carried, retarded shitter like you know about that?
If you ever finally manage to get the TS title for real then it will be because 3 players like me were feeling generous towards you that day
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>>568197046
>other havoc game
>LW tardbitrator forgets to use his shock mines
>has a DPS rape build and somehow fails to keep up with a chorus zealot
>other havoc game yet
>veteran doesn't shoot a single tagged bomber
>rumbler ogryn doesn't fire his rumbler
>get pushed into a corner by bomber spam and melee enemies not being exploded
I normally get this shit done first 1-3 tries, did the skitarius release somehow summon all the turbo-subhumans back into havoc or something? I've only gotten the most retarded teammates imaginable.
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>>568199182
>nerd starts to make up shit about a random shit about a person he has never met
You feel threathened.
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>>568199241
Yep. We got one subhuman retard right here >>568198546
Imagine how bad we'll be playing a brand new class when he hasn't even gotten the hang of any of the base classes yet
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im the best
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>>568199354
You're giving off a barking chihuahua vibe
Annoying little inbred freak that's convinced it can scare a full grown man
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>play flame+bubble on H40
>whole map is a struggle, team fails three times straight and get demoted
>switch to flame+shriek
>rocket to 1.5M damage, 100+ elite kills, clear easily
Oh okay, trying to support pubs is a mistake, gotcha

Found another neat trick too - want pubs to start shooting specialists for once? Just start charging a brainburst on them
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>>568199739
>1.5M damage, 100+ elite kills
You weren't already doing that with your flame staff?
Are you one of those brittleness tards?
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>>568199739
>rocket to 1.5M damage, 100+ elite kills, clear easily
That's unusually low for havoc 40
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Just played with the slowest people on earth
I kept going ahead at a super normal reasonable pace just to turn back as see they've cornered themselves in the weirdest spot ever to do shit like break the event pole while a boss is throwing them around
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>>568199947
You just walked past the event pole and wonder why you were alone?
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>>568199947
Smartest speedrooner alive.
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>>568200001
That's just one example, it wasn't always event stuff.
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>>568199813
no i just wasnt winning lel

>>568199867
Like I said, easy clear
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Can servitors get pregnant though
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>>568200406
most can't, but there are exceptions
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>>568198540
This, there's nothing wrong with taunt and slab shield ogryns, but they should never, ever plant the shield or we'll make fun of them and (You) just for being in the same lobby as one.
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>>568200406
If the techpriest is a freak and installed ovaries in the industrial machinery, yes.
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>>568200639
True. Niggas got access to skullcrusher and they're just standing there doing nothing
>>568200997
>installed
Women have ovaries by default
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>>568199947
Me at you
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>play any class
>play game and have fun
>play veteran
>guaranteed to take two taps from behind and get insta raped to death every single game
Am I just cursed? Does vet take more back damage? Do the enemies specifically go for Vets backs?
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>>568201561
I got tired of this shit and just made a melee build for my vet. Still gets to pop plenty of heads, too.
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>>568200639
i'm planting my shield every time i take a sip from my drink and there's nothing wrong with it
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>3 hours of trying to get a single h40 W in
>every team is complete sub-humans
Good lord, fine, I'll wait until the weekend, holy shit.
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>>568201506
Based, I wish more players were capable of this like you and I.
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>>568201649
>he doesn't get the day off on whit monday
le mao
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uhhhh drg bros ???
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>>568199509
>making up more fantasies to feel tougher
Yeah. I got under your skin and you're mad about it.
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>>568201761
>tranner lindsperg
umm this is /vg/ not /lgbt/
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>>568201761
>make coop game
>it's centered around competing with your teammates
He's right. Also just based on what I've seen people here talk the game just isn't that great and the whome competing with your teammates for upgrades/weapons is just bad coop design.
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>>568201689
I would accept anyone being shit the rest of the time so long as they did this whenever anybody is carrying a battery
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>>568201761
Helldivers 2 isn't a bad game at though
Just cause you hate the devs doesn't mean they didn't accidentally make a fun game
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>>568201876
It's very typical from useless retards like you to get spiteful and jealous at people who are better than you. This is why you take pleasure in the thought of having annoyed me
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So I guess it's basically confirmed that at least one of the forgeworlds we will get to pick is Branx Minor
I wonder what color their robes will be, maybe purple?
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>>568202169
I do it
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>>568199509
Post something from your gandalf folder to own his ass bro..
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>>568202651
I'll just assume this is some turd-worlder joke that i'm not familiar with
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>>568201761
Rogue core is less a co-op game and more like a time-attack game. You need your teammates up and functioning because you cannot hit all the POI on your own before the timer expires but you shouldn't go out of your way to help them because then you fall behind which leads to mission failure. In terms of co-op game design it's pretty horrendous.
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>>568202508
We'll get Mars and Branx Minor.
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>>568202270
>more made up fantasies
>i'm totally not annoyed btw
Yeah. Mad and seething.
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>>568204104
+2 more
At least going by Arby and scum
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>>568204595
>>568204104
Hopefully 3 themes like the hive scum
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>>568201761
you should unironically jump the troon bridge yourself for posting that faggot's troontube comment
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>>568204764
Tanner does mma and could beat the shit out of you.
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>>568205281
do the jump, nigger
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>>568204764
hey alright
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>>568201761
surprised he hasn't killed himself yet, guess the bigmacs are still affordable
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>>568199739
with the crusher/bulwark spawn rate nerf shriek is 100x as necessary now. other classes/psyker loadouts can't keep up with the insane amount of gunner and special spam
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>>568210197
>those numbers
What the fuck was this, a 50 minute clandestium run? That vet absolutely ate shit.
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>>568210547
It was just cranial+21st on that map where you raid the trains for the ammunition canisters. and yes the vet was dragging the team down heavily, he started with lasgun and went to helbore on the run we actually won
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>>568210197
>with the crusher/bulwark spawn rate nerf shriek is 100x as necessary now
i don't understand. Isn't shriek dogshit against crushers?
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>>568211016
There are much fewer crushers and bulwarks in havoc, but the exact same spawn budget. The director fills it in with an absurd amount of large/small gunners and specials now. You'll turn the corner and be immediately assaulted by a rape room filled with bullets being fired from every direction much more often now.
As it turns out there is precisely one ability that can deal with that kind of situation effectively and it's shriek
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>>568211250
Aha so it's basically more effective than it used to be. Thanks.
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>>568201761
is everyone calling it rouge core on purpose
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>>568212341
Tanner is a genuinely sub 80 IQ retard if you've ever seen him type
the fact that anyone views him as "nerdy" is impressive given how genuinely dumb as bricks he is, I think he genuinely has some sort of learning disability
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>>568203991
>it's not a coop game because if your team is shit you lose
Fatshark and Arrowhead have turned the genre topsy turvy where every player needs to be a swedish army knife who handles all possible threats solo or the game is nonfunctional.
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How does havoc work? Do I host a level 1 assignment and pray people request to join?
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>>568215768
do an auric maelstrom, bumps you to 16
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>>568111272
The normal 2h hammer and Warrior priest 2h hammer are vastly different. They can make it work.
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I'm also quite fond of the rat poster.
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>>568083189
>Stygies VIII
You are a nigger. A real stiggy niggy.
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>>568218707
styggas, or styggers as I like to call them
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>>568212341
People mistaking rogue for rouge is a tale as old as time. I remember having fighting people on the internet over this shit twenty years ago.
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SYNTHETIK 2 UPDATE
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>>568083189
Lucius pattern titans absolutely mog Mars trash so I'll go with those.
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>>568132718
>>568132882
It was a consoletard (as usual) btw
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>>568220741
>sharing :)
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>>568220067
Is it time to finally come back to it?
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>>568221767
some things got fixed, did you play the engie?
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I'm never smigging ever again dude what the fuck is this
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>>568221854
>cheats
deserved
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>>568221854
>hp bar mod
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>>568221849
I played launch classes and did a single game after their first rework. If that first rework included the engie then I played it once, if not then no.
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>>568222116
yeah saw your date after, plenty of fixes but the core didn't change (meaning if you don't like it eh). Most weapons got some buffs, the experience got streamlined and the engie's third kit is very funny
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>>568221854
Cheaters deserve this (whatever is you the problem with this webm for ants) and much worse.
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>>568221854
I don't get it
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>>568222248
>>568222286
ogryn missing 4 swings in a row on stationary targets and only doing lights with the pickaxe and failing to kill a single thing
>cheats
im not good enough sorry :(
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Bought the game for Skitarii but decided to give it a go before they are released. Made a Psyker, what am I in for?
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>>568222537
>what am I in for?
Pain and suffering until you max the right side blitz because low level psyker is ass for its atrocious weapon selection. You don't even get a staff early.
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>>568222537
>Made a Psyker, what am I in for?
retarded ogryn players
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>>568222471
Maybe he's just having fun
>>568222537
Shittier veteran
Then you look up a build online and experience overwhelming handcrushing and clear the entire screen with your choice of basic inputs
Unironically will teach you to play the game wrong for every single other class, except maybe Arbites
Skitarii might also be in the same bag but who the fuck knows
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>>568218984
>>568218707
They’re the best for a reason
>>568220741
Nah that’s just the average Xbox player (near extinct)
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>>568222537
Psyker is perhaps the weakest class until you get the right synergies from talents and meta weapons and become unstoppable. So if you feel weak for the first 20 levels don't worry.
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>>568199947
I love this girl and show
>>568200406
Pretty sure most of them are sterile
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>>568212341
There are definitely unfunny cocksuckers who do it on purpose to try to be funny at this point
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>>568202221
Ehh, maybe not bad, but very flawed all the same
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>>568222237
Big issue I had was with information being esoteric which I'm confident they've cleaned up by now as early on there was basically no user facing information and you sorta just had to free ball what items and attachments did and how they interacted with various mechanics and other items. Not a fun experience when you pick up a modkit and it interacts negatively with something else you have and suddenly your damage output drops by 75%
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>>568201506
This episode was so chaotic jesus
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>>568193057
Thank god I didn’t spend money on this shit.
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>>568223810
It's peak comedy
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>>568223758
truth be told am not even sure I has the gam ein 2023. Now it's much more clear what things each items do, usually come with a passive. And if you maintain CTRL you can have even more infos
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>>568223074
the best at picking space cotton
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>>568195847
> They of course are zoomers who grew up playing CoD so they already have the fps basic FPS skills
i didn’t realize how big an advantage this would apparently be for us one day…
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Skitty news tomorrow!!!
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>>568223758
oh also forgot, you can easily change the file setting so you have every level and androids unlocked to skip the boring grind

C:\Users\<your username>\AppData\LocalLow\FlowFire\Synthetik2\PlayerProfile\<your steam id>\PlayerProfileSave.json
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>>568195847
Dunno how old all your friends are but for our group once we finished Uni and started work a lot of our free time disappeared. For the ones that can still show up they want to play something fun rather than something they would have to sweat at to learn. I find Darktide fun but I can understand its frustrating, especially with the audio queues and glitches so of course they would rather spend there time doing something else.
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>>568195847
I'm in the process of getting a friend to play Darktide. He played a few hours of VT2 but was more interested in the 40k setting. He downloads the game every now and then and bounces off because the fundamentals higher difficulties demand are so esoteric while lower difficulties put him to sleep. And it's given me perspective on how bizarrely this game plays.

In most games your decisions are reactive. But in Darktide, despite being a fast paced action game, nearly all decisions are pre-emptive. You navigate by sliding because you might get shot at all times. You dodge like a metronome, memorizing a precise rhythm to not overspend dodges, because you might get hit at all times. The only factor you react to is the whoosh of an incoming attack, a sound so deeply ingrained in your psyche you could set it as your alarm clock. It is more important than any visual tell since the game blurs into an indistinct blob of overlapping models. You can't tell what is hitting you, from where, you just know you need to always be swinging. You shout for overhealth pre-emptively, throw frag grenades pre-emptively, fire off charged attacks simply praying enemies will be in the right place because 9/10 times they are. If the game were a straight hallway you could play it with the monitor off. It is all instincts and muscle memory.

When I return to VT2, a game I have 500 hours in and still love, it feels so bizarrely calm yet dangerous. Mistakes are punished more severely yet you have plenty time to react to the enemies around you. Situations devolve slowly, feeling less all-or-nothing than its spiritual successor. It doesn't spam you with so many specials the audio triggers break. We need to return to a simpler time.
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>>568224726
Fantastic, wish I could do this with Space Marine 2 because I'd like to pick it back up but it's genuinely unfun garbage without leveled weapons and classes.
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>>568225540
Same. The progression in SM2 is fucking awful.
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>>568225540
yeah I feel you, I keep telling people to do so because it's a fantastic pve coop game but christ is it boring at the start. Don't hestitate to ping in the global chat if you want to play btw
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>>568224276
Huh? What’s the news?
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>>568225983
Probably more blogs for lore and other stuff, iirc they said they would release stuff each week until release
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>>568225983
News about the making and visuals of the skitarii
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>>568227804
Excited to see the only cosmetics skitty will ever receive.
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>>568219465
The cheat code to never make that mistake is to be born french.
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I have been playing darktide 2 for a week, new to the game. People say choosing veteran as first class is wrong, why? Its the first class i maxed and it feels good (chose it because it made most sense lorewise for astra militarum grunts to be thrown at problems like tertium).I dont see the point of any other class really when you railgun 5 enemies in a line with plasma, got full toughness shout on demand that is also cc and teambuff, and infinite grenades. Zealot feels mid as fuck and seems to require autistic amount of game knowledge. Psyker is complete shit but i think he needs all his perks to shine. Didn’t try the others
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>>568228502
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>>568222537
In the babby difficulties you can get away with spamming assail (right side blitz, the angry blue bees) and clear the screen as long as you pay attention to your peril. Technically speaking you can also get away with spamming assail at h40 but it's a bit more involved and your teammates will judge you silently for not playing the flamestaff bubble meta. Psyker is unironically the strongest class in every niche it can fill.
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>>568228596
Vet is probably the best to learn the game with. It's a decent class and easy to learn the game. Psyker is weaker than the other classes while leveling for a while. Ogryn is fun, but it's size causes some new players to eat shit and die. Zealot is more melee focused
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>>568228596
>I have been playing darktide 2 for a week
Damn, dude is living in the future.
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>>568228596
>People say choosing veteran as first class is wrong, why?
Who the fuck is saying that? It's the simplest class to learn and a completely acceptable starting point.
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>>568222537
>Made a Psyker
Strongest class in the game if you're good and fully kitted out
Hint: You're probably not good, so don't sweat it when you tank the floor quite often
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>>568228596
>People say choosing veteran as first class is wrong
Because a lot of people pick vet and think they'll never have to melee
Picking Zealot as your first class if probably the best way to learn the game
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>>568228596
My first class was veteran and I didn't like it. I then tried ogryn and loved the power of being a giant retard
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>>568222537
Take assail for low difficulties and win, you can go through uprising, malice and even heresy just using that and maybe pulling out your melee weapon on occasion. Like everyone else is saying, once you've gotten your staves set up and your builds sorted, it's the strongest class in the game, fully capable of clowning on literally everything else in terms of the damage it can put out.
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>>568230051
don't you experience enough of that IRL
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>>568221854
mobamaxxing?
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>>568228596
>People say choosing veteran as first class is wrong, why?
Because in the end it's melee skill that is most impotant and vets aren't as tanky as zealots. I don't really think it matters all that much
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>perform medicae on injured comrades
what are the odds we will get an ability like this
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>>568225478
>the whoosh of an incoming attack, a sound so deeply ingrained in your psyche you could set it as your alarm clock
We've been clicker-trained lmao.
>If the game were a straight hallway you could play it with the monitor off. It is all instincts and muscle memory.
Extremely real. Even when I'm on vc with the homies we all mostly play on autopilot in a meditative state.
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>>568228596
>Zealot feels mid as fuck and seems to require autistic amount of game knowledge.
Yes, that's the point.
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>>568230423
a ranged revive? why not, vet has one with AoE, don't see why another class couldn't have one that is single target but long range
>actually restoring health
not a fucking chance
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>>568228596
Warning newbies not to start with vet is old advice. A lot of players pick vet, wanting to play like CoD, and neglect learning how to melee.
>I dont see the point of any other class really when you railgun 5 enemies in a line with plasma, got full toughness shout on demand
>Zealot feels mid as fuck and seems to require autistic amount of game knowledge
This is also kind of why. You found the crutch drawer and emptied it out, calling the basics autistic.
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playing RC with randoms is such a pain in the ass
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Rouge Coar
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>havoc, rituals
>kill ritual
>daemonhost somehow breaks free at like 10% health
Huh? Never had that happen.
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When the fuck will all of the civilized world decide to just outright ban all of Russia... Imagine how much every single game would improve
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>>568232702
has happened to me too, no idea what is causing it but at least the host is easy to kill with health that low
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>>568231478
It really is. Just had some Russian sperg the fuck out for picking a trait He didn't mark. He then wanted revenge and decided to fuck up another guy for some reason instead of me
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>>568232759
This but also China and South Asia
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>sikt trailer now at almost double the views of arbites
anyone who was saying that arbites was a good first pick and one they actually wanted can sodomize themselves now
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>>568233073
Can you imagine how underwhelming the arbites and especially hive cum would be if the first class had been the skitariusii?
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>>568230423
It'll probably be something simple like consuming a stim you're holding, which could be extremely useful if it works for any stim. I won't have to chase a zealot around to jab him with celerity.
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>>568233190
>skitariusii
skitariusiium
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>king of the hill
>100 players on 3 teams
>money system from cs
>map size and vehicles of bf
please be excited
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>>568234457
there isn't even a co-op tag on that store page screenshot, fuck off
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>>568234457
Sounds a lot like an ARMA mod I'm forgetting the name of
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Rouge Core sisters?
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>>568230423
near zero
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THE OMNISSIAH COMMENDS YOUR SERVICE
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>>568235959
>ywn have a skitarii alpha primus commend you for your service
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Anyone remember how much of each resource you need to master a weapon in Darktide? Skitarii looks like it will have 6 unique weapons. IIRC it's something between 200-300k and a couple thousand plasteel. I think diamanten is just for upgrading the actual weapons
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>the new update won't come with new weapons for old classes
Grim
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>>568237451
I think the last new free weapons were the bolter and bolt pistol marks that are extra explody and the single heavy stubber for the ogryn. Which was at least a year ago
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>>568230423
medicae but it's temp hp
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>>568236820
*shrugs*
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>>568237451
Now that they taken back the good will of the community they dont have to release shit for free anymore they'll just put all the new weapons on the new classes
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>>568237839
>inferior variants for Bolter and Bistol
>sniper rifle for the unga bunga melee class who in lore can't even hit a broadside of a fucking barn
Awful.
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>>568179917
I think they just do it because DRG did it. They just want diversity in the game instead of an expected "you have to pick X or you're trolling" type of scenarios.
The only problem they have is that when I played DRG, I started off as gunner. All of my weapons in that game to fight swarms of bugs, are now a "next level" bonus. My baseline of combat competency is now exclusive and in DRG you had a choice between weapons, so you always had a weapon that did group clearing, and single target.
Now it's just everything is single target, I hope you can single target 10+ targets that jump behind you and attack you from every angle simultaneously.
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>>568237451
that's fine because once skit is out all of the other classes will be irrelevant
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Give the skitarii True Grit
Call it True Skit
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>>568239662
LOL! That's yet another hilarious rat image for the guy to post every thread :)
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I had a thought. What will the skits call other non-skits and each other?
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>>568236820
Dunno about resources, but I know it takes about 30 green weapons to max out mastery from 0
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>>568240383
>fellow skit
boykisser
>non-skit
pre-onaservitor
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>>568240357
The rat guy should make rat pictures for other coop games as well. The posts are whatever, I just like seeing rats cosplaying.
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29 DAYS UNTIL SKITARII
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>>568241281
Oh non... j'ai déjà dépensé mon budget kebab...
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>>568240357
True Skit?
More like True Skat!
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>>568240383
Ogryn will most likely be "Gigantus", seeing the in-universe scientific term for ogryns is designated as Homo Sapiens Gigantus.
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>>568242181
Interesting, but I think he should refer to them as "Homo" instead then
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>>568213229
DRG was designed for more fun with co-op but also playable solo.
The players need to be able to handle all possible threats or you just have a non functional game for solo play.
The game shouldn't also be watch your solo carry play the game solo with spectators either, but you can't have a single player experience/design if you can't do everything yourself.
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>>568235959
Was he just being an asshole? Considering those guardsmen basically stood there as the skitarii no diffed the Cultists?
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>>568242868
I am once again stating that if arc rifle is skit's best ranged weapon I am going to shit and pee all over sweden
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Vanguard helmets?
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Doing D4 in RC is legit infuriating. What the fuck is wrong with all these piece of shit players. So much fucking FF some faggots outright fucking refuses to upgrade. I'm going fucking insane

It's clear as fucking day that the devs only ever played this game as a coordinated team, It's getting incredibly fucking tiring, and I feel like players are getting worse by the day
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>>568233190
Actually it would have been fine. First you get the obvious pick, admech, then the kinda obscure but cool stuff, arbie, then the bottom of the barrel. Makes sense. It's expected.
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>>568240761
>boykisser
botkisser
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>>568243318
The game is maybe a week old. You can't expect everyone to match your skill level that early on.
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Spoonfeed me, what's the good scoreboard mod and how do I get it to work?
I've just been using the shitty one that lists every useless thing ever and scores you but it's started crashing my shit on top of being weird to read
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>>568243318
FF is a horrible mechanic anyway. Only griefers want it. I just completely ignore it in the hopes that devs get their heads out of their asses and remove it.
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>>568240357
>>568239151
Kek
>>568242417
That would be misleading and communicate the wrong thing
>>568243892
At least one of them died so I think he was being genuine
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>>568233073
>i want to start off with the most popular class and let the game slowly die as fatshark releases more and more irrelevant classes
idiot, is what you are.
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>>568242868
They reused one of vet's victory poses for promotional material
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WOAH GUYS!!!! We get 40 (FORTY) shmeckels for the next tier! That's 20 whole cents!!!
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>>568245291
>That would be misleading and communicate the wrong thing
Maybe we could compromise with "Gigantus Homo"
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>>568244674
That's really not it. It's not like I am a perfect player myself. But It's so fucking frustrating having some asshole repeatedly blow your brains out because he just have to shoot the fuckers you are clearly taking care off. Either hold your fire, or hit them with the pick-axe.

>>568245006
I agree, on top of everything else going on, and considering how most objectives work, it's an extremely frustrating experience with how often it happens. The game want's you to stack and stick close, but one shot sometimes takes like half of your armor it feels like. I'm honestly tilted right ngl. My last few games have been horrible due to retarded Russians screaming and pissing themselves, or assholes blowing me to kingdom come. It's really tiring and with every game taking at minimum 45 minutes, It's getting increasingly harder to commit myself to this torture
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>>568245298
>the most popular class
that'd be sister of battle or an out-of-armor space marine
>fatshark releases more and more irrelevant classes
they could've just not released arbites and hive scum
where was ratling
how about a felinid
no, instead we got shit designed to sell plastic that fucking sucks
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>>568244989
I use the ovenproof one. Animation event is unstable and is not needed anyway.
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>>568245723
>I agree, on top of everything else going on, and considering how most objectives work, it's an extremely frustrating experience with how often it happens. The game want's you to stack and stick close, but one shot sometimes takes like half of your armor it feels like. I'm honestly tilted right ngl. My last few games have been horrible due to retarded Russians screaming and pissing themselves, or assholes blowing me to kingdom come. It's really tiring and with every game taking at minimum 45 minutes, It's getting increasingly harder to commit myself to this torture
The best thing you can do is just ignore that FF exists. Devs will see on their backend that there's extreme FF damage if you do this, and eventually remove it because it's a problem.
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>>568225478
just tell him to play gunlugger orgyn, youre basically bullet proof as long as you have ammo. you have so much toughness damage reduction on top of regular damage reduction on top the fact you get 12% of your toughness every second while aiming, you can eat so much damage while doing more than any melee ogryn will be able deal and sustain, at the caveat of sucking up all ammo; theres such a large disparity in outcome between gunlugger ogryn and any melee orgyn
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>>568246580
I really want to like the game, and I actually enjoy it quite a bit solo. But GSG is kind of letting me down here. So many of this games issues are so incredibly obvious for everyone that played it in alpha/beta and everyone playing it now, how did they not foresee these complaints beforehand? It really feels like their only internal testers where 4-guys being able to communicate, and the based every single decision based on their inputs, instead of trying to imagine what would happen when 4 random faggots play together instead.
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You should be locked from joining another mission in Darktide if you quit.
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>>568139297
it would be a shotgun like in SM1, SM2 and Rogue Trader
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>>568139297
its plasma but short range
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>>568248117
no. I paid for the game, I can decide who I play with

what they should do is offer some little faggot bonus like +500 plasteel if you don't leave a game 10 times in a row. Now suddenly all the retarded soulless sheep stop leaving games
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>>568248117
Nah let the shitters filter themselves out of my lobby.
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>hm I think I will play veteran
>queue up
>two other veterans and a voidstrike psyker
okay
>hm I think I will play Zealot
>queue up
>one other zealot, melee hivescum, scrier's FGS psyker
Kill me.
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>>568248404
i thought meltas were beams though
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>>568250481
So what?
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>>568250568
no one knows what the fuck they actually are. the games just make them do whatever they feel like in the moment.
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>>568243019
>i am going to shit and pee all over sweden
somalis beat you to it
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>>568251412
ain't nobody's shit and piss as foul as mine, bucko
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>>568250568
GW can't decide on them either.
SM1 had them as basically blowtorches whose flame is so damn big it functions as a shotgun.
In some lore material for the Eradicator marines, it mentions that the melta guns they use have a maximum range of 60 metres or so.
In some official art depictions they are much shorter range and more concentrated beam.

Basically the meltas are all over the fucking place and game devs are probably just allowed to do whatever the fuck they please by GW.
But if we do get one in Darktide I think it is more likely we get the short range one that just deletes fuck load of enemies in front of you. Which would make sense from a balance/design perspective since it prevents melta from stepping on the plasmagun's toes too much.
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>>568250623
I want to shoot but everyone is shooting, so there's always enemies on your ass while you're trying to pick off elites/specials
I want to melee but everyone is meleeing, so there's always bombers and snipers and you have to swap off your melee every 5 nanoseconds because the rest don't deal with them.

Plus, more balanced parties are just inherently more fun in my opinion
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>>568250568
There's multiple kinds but the tabletop version uses a flamer template.
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>>568253646
in every depiction for the past 20 years its always been a close range weapon, the shotgun effect is, ironically, a more realistic take on what happens when you introduce the heat of several stars in atmosphere comprised of water molecules
if anything the plasma is stepping on meltas toes because its supposed to be more like a grenade launcher, where it "explodes" on contact, plasma has never been depicted as something that goes through multiple targets
>>568254520
no, they dont, melta was not a template weapon, and they got rid of template weapons
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The skitarii trailer was okay but I really wish they had made it something more interesting. Like having the rejects trying to fix a malfunctioning servo-skull while getting overwhelmed and the skitarii revealing themselves by sending in their own to fix it instead while giving them covering fire. 90% of it was just random heretics fighting with ghosts
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Is auric maelstrom just an rng thing? I tried it a couple times and the team kept staying back and inevitably got swarmed by special waves. I was running my taunt ogryn, tanked everything until a trapper net clipped through a wall or I got trapped on terrain.
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>>568245723
Oh that sounds awful. I didn't know the game had FF. Yah those guys are retarded. Russians are almost a guaranteed terrible player
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>>568245748
Felinids are probably not happening due to lack of models sadly
>>568251734
Kek
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>click on "options"
>immediate CTD
I look forward to finding the mod causing this
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just getting back into darktide and leveling the new hive scum but idk it just feels like zealot to me
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>>568245723
>>568243318
the lobby name has great influence on what kind of player you get. be judgmental and people will somewhat try.
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>>568173508
You aren't supposed to be a support. Take assail and whatever lasgun unlocks first (recon or laspistol) and rape the horde.
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Weapon Specialist with the revolver feels amazing I gotta say
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>>568221854
build issue
you don't even have EP
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>>568257742
because it is zealot on steroids
super capable in melee and even less capable in ranged (because no access to lasguns)
the only viable ranged is niggler but it doesn't even feel like a proper ranged weapon, more like a custom class crutch
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>>568221854
Bro tryna turn his game into world of warcraft with that healthbar shit
death to smiggers anyway, you just make the game less fun for everyone else to play
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>>568259309
Lil bro thinks he's a game dev but he's stuck playing on easy mode with zero creativity.
Lil bro out here acting like a hardcore raider but his only raid is complaining in the starting zone.
Bro tryna be the final boss of opinions but his damage output is straight trash.
Lil bro got no game sense, just spamming salt like it's his ultimate ability.
Bro really thinks he's top rank but he's running a full support build of hating on fun.
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>>568259256
>Killing an Elite or Specialist Enemy with a Melee Attack while Ammo Reserve is below 20% will refill it to 20%.
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>>568201986
easy mistake desu
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>>568255065
I really hope the next trailer for the next class picks up the slack. Scum and Skitarii were definite downgrades from Arbites, which wasn’t anything groundbreaking, but it was well done at least.
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>>568262721
It's all AI forever now.
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>>568262883
Retard
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>>568250568
Can meltas melt steel beams?
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I bought the game three days ago and I like it. I've only played Arbites so far. Am I wrong to enjoy the shotpistol?
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>>568264469
No. It's very satisfying to use, but it tends to fall behind the other arbites shotguns and the bolt gun at higher difficulties
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>>568264593
I just unlocked the boltgun today, haven't tried it yet. I wondered if it was just there because they had to put one or if it's actually good.
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>>568264895
One of the arbite's best options, but you want to use it with the dog because the gun is slow to draw and reload
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>>568254520
You might be in the wrong universe, in this one they've always had a statline with short range, low shot count, single target, extremely high damage, especially against armoured targets. What you've got in your picture is a flamer template.
This is why the SM2 depiction is so completely nonsensical, because there it is a weapon used for spamming shots that hit entire hordes and stagger-locking some enemies but barely does damage against larger targets, especially armoured targets. The only way they could be more off the mark is if they had made it long range.
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>>568265167
>One of the arbite's best options
I don't think he's talking about the bistol.
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>>568093007
>I should try Dark Soul II, hated ER
What causes this mental illness? ER is the most polished modern From soft game while DaS2 is the least. If you like more agile shit like BB or Sekiro you will have a rough time with DaS2, and the map and enemy designs suck ass to boot. Try 3 instead if you haven't.

>>568093454
Don't listen to him, DaS1 is a great experience but if you're not vibing with it will be frustrating. It's a slower pace, clunkier controls and requires a good amount of mindfulness and environmental awareness
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>>568265706
What a fucking sperg man, relax
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>>568257742
It'll become more distinct as you level. Don't listen to the other fucktard, infinite ammo ranged is a viable and great fun way to build. On the melee side of things zealot has more sustain while scum is more glass cannon
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>>568265510
We're obviously talking about the big boltgun
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>>568265942
>relax
? I just gave some advice after seeing some terrible shit earlier in the thread. Why are we going for the worst souls game after not enjoying the best? If anon liked BB/Sekiro but for whatever reason doesn't like ER, than 3 is the way to go, not 2
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https://youtu.be/rY5iC4yJ78k
it's over diggerbros
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>>568266184
Thinking that's one of Arby's best options is an interesting opinion
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>>568264895
Boltgun is very good in this game. I've never used it on arby but does very well on vet/zealot. As pretty much all weapons in this game, one mark is distinctly better
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Did they fix the 3 Stam 400 Curio or did they "fix" it?
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>>568266647
Keep your retarded inputs to yourself, shitter
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>>568267651
lmao. Imagine getting this bootyblasted over a mild objection on 4chan. I really don't get how the bolter would be so good considering Arby has so many good options
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>>568197046
back when havoc was new the most you had to worry about were gunners, unlike the boss dispenser it is now
it was very common for people to get true survivor along with the havoc 35 totem at the same time
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>>568268353
>I really don't get
That's because you're a retarded shitter. Why the fuck do i have to make the case for one of the most powerful guns in the entire game?
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>>568267651
>>568268353
To expand:
You want the bolter to consistently snipe sturdy elites (if your class has the bonuses to do so, primarily Vet) or eliminate ranged enemies when your melee weapon can't do that (like Heavy Sword Zealots). You don't need those on Arby at all. Nothing else the bolter offers is superior to things like the bistol, shotpistol, revolver, or IAGs.

>>568268563
So you're bad and play on low density gamemodes where the Bolter's heavy drawbacks don't appear and/or spend the entire game hoovering up ammo pickups and never meleeing. Got it.
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>>568268667
>or eliminate ranged enemies
Sorry, meant armored enemies. Retard moment
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>>568268563
NTA, but context matters. Boltgun is strong overall yeah and I love it on vet, but certainly not what I would consider one of arby's strongest ranged options for a few reasons. If you really want bolt, even the bistol is better since arbites loves melee
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>bolter on arbitrator
Fun but far from optimal
>but muh bosses
Your shotgun, bro? If you don't brick your build it deals with them perfectly fine. Boo fucking hoo it doesn't 2-mag-kill burgles, suck it up pussy and play the game.
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>>568268667
>heavy drawbacks
Now you're projecting your own lack of skill unto me. A good player learns to play around the drawbacks. Shitters like you just drop dead because you got beaten by poxwalkers while you were trying to pull out your boltgun. I have completed several havoc 40s and solo shocktrooper gauntlets with the boltgun and dog, literally the easiest build to use
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>>568269836
Post build. Also you can complete high difficulties with almost any build and a high degree of skill, doesn't mean that the weapons you used are best for that class
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>>568270070
>Also you can
I can, but you somehow just get fucked because you couldn't use the dog or create a bit of space to pull out the boltgun
>doesn't mean that the weapons you used are best for that class
What the fuck does a retard like you know about that?
>build
Pick the basic dog buffs and a bolter. Do i need to explain everything to you?
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>>568269836
>slow as fuck
>low ammo
>long reload
>long swap speed
>>>>not heavy drawbacks
Outing yourself. The Bolter is not a contender for top tier on Arby. It's fine if you wanna funbuild with it, but stop talking as though you know what you're on about. Also
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>>568270737
dude youre just wrong
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>>568271165
No I'm not
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>>568270879
Easy to play around if you aren't a complete fucking shitter (hint, hint)
>>568271165
Retard
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New enemy faction when? Other color than green preferably.
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>>568271701
purple soonTM
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>the skitarii brought in an influx of complete and utter shitters who haven't figured out how to use the boltgun on the crutchiest class in the game
Grim, dark even
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>>568272257
post playtime
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>>568271701
I want them to make an enemy reskin pack that makes all the enemies into accountants and middle management in suits. I would pay money for this. Not a lot of money. But moneyâ„¢
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>>568271580
Actually 50 IQ.
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>>568272257
>implying you aren't the shitter
lmao
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>>568244391
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>>568271995
>finally get genestealer enemies
>it's just a bunch of purple scabs with big heads
This is the way.
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>>568271995
>>568272712
>purple
Xhe’s in.
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>>568272313
Don't have it saved on my phone but it's around 3500
>>568272387
>>568272665
Aren't you the shitters who just admitted that you're too retarded and bad to figure out how to use the bolter on a dog build?
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>>568273167
WHAT
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Skittles aren't going to be able to use stimms so they'll have something else take the place of that slot
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>>568273352
>Don't have it saved on my phone
Uhh your Steam app, drongo. Confirmed shitposter just trying to rile the thread up
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>>568273441
good point...
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>>568273441
>source: my ass
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>>568273441
their skull retard
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>>568273669
That's their blitz
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>>568273441
Keep crying
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>>568273352
No? The argument isn't whether the bolter is viable. The argument is that it isn't contending for one of the best ranged options on Arby. You can't even argue against people's completely valid arguments besides saying, "Hurrr you're just le bad." Actual, certifiable retard. Enjoy your Dunning-Kruger fantasy world.
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>>568273461
>shitposting by saying that one of the most powerful guns in the game is powerful
Nobody forced you to troon out about this fact
>>568274180
The burden or proof is on you when it comes to a gun which has been recognized to be one of the best guns in the game to the point where it's common knowledge and admitting that you are too much of a shitter to use it only strengthens ny credibility
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>>568273167
That's for Vermintide 3
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>>568274180
There's at least one anon who comes to this general just posting inflammatory shit, and this guy has a couple of his hallmarks
>hostile straight out of the gate
>nameflinging to distract from the 0 evidence posted to back up claims
>moving goalposts
He won't listen to your logic, he's just farming (you)s
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>>568096045
>would you rather them hire 6 million jeets?
Unironically, yes.
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Relegating arbites to bossing duty with a bolter is a colossal waste of the class. Monstrosities aren't enough of a problem to warrant it, especially when he can have the draw speed of his shotgun and still boss pretty damn well with it.

You might as well be making an argument for bringing a stealth zealot boss memer. It's just not necessary.
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Felinids when?
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>>568274954
Yeah, I figured it out finally, thanks
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>>568274985
>hosing down groups of enemies
>killing bosses
>long distance sniping
I have significant experience with the arbites and its ranged weapons and i'm very surprised to see that there are so many retarded shitters who struggle with such an easy and powerful gun
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>>568275525
>admitting to firing bolter at crowds
onto the block list you go
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>>568275374
Unfortunately we'll likely be getting zealot 2 before then
Beastman loyalist or Felinids after that
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>>568275523
He is particularly bothersome because he sneaks into ongoing discussions with just enough knowledge to seem somewhat believable, it does take a few of his posts for me to twig that oh yeah, this guy will never actually listen and respond appropriately to anything being said and must be shitposter-kun. I almost wish he was more of a sperg with identifiable language that I could recognise easier but such is life, some faggots are just miserable pos and want to lash out on everyone else
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>>568275663
But we just got Zealot2
Skitarii seen to be Vet2
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>>568245748
>sister of battle
Sisters are too big of a gamble. There are too many people who will refuse to play as a woman, so it promises to be their least selling DLC. If they make it, it will be the last one.
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>>568278219
There's a heavy overlap in the darktide community and the trans community, so I don't see it as an issue.
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>psykers aren't the most powerful because i keep blowing up and they're too squishy!!
This is essentially what the anti-bolter shitters are like. Their ego won't allow them to face the fact that it's their skill that is the issue, not the bolter's drawbacks
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>>568278219
What if we did ststAs of battle. Make it for the uhhh urban community
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The shotgun feels great on arby why use anything else desu senpai
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No one said psyker isn't the strongest class. Everyone is painfully aware of fire staff, especially after the last patch. Shut the fuck up.
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>>568278408
I think the overlap is autism.
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>>568278686
>not knowing what an analogy is
Why are you allowed to share the internet with normal people like us?
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>>568278843
Bolter on arbites is nowhere near as relevant as purgatus psyker. It's an arbites meme build.
On the day that Fatshark nerfs skullcrusher into the ground, which will be soon, I will not accept your apology.
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>>568278636
It's very good. It's what i use when i'm playing without the dog
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The next class will just be related to whatever bullshit GW wants to be the theme of the next Skulls.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZ10nI8jnss hehe
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>>568279017
I never claimed it was equally as relevant. Thanks for showing everyone that only complete retards disagree with me
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>>568278828
Kek true
>>568275374
I should really rewatch god what a sex beast
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>he's still intentionally misconstruing posts and spewing vitriol to try keep the argument going
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>>568279191
Nice
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>>568279339
this anon won

>>568279017
this anon is mentally limited
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>>568279691
Finally someone else who isn't a complete retard
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>>568279691
>>568279772
Great, now you can go gag on each others dicks and play bolter arby together
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>>568279948
yeah unlike you we can play arby bolter
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Hopefully we're getting skitarii news tomorrow to distract everyone from the anti-bolter spergout and subsequent curbstomping
>>568279948
This attempt at an insult would work better if you didn't seem so butthurt
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>>568280068
Sorry, didn't mean to sound butthurt. Genuinely happy these two fags found each other so they can stop shitting up the thread
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>>568280203
You should just take the L
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>>568280370
What L? I'm just cheering on a couple gay boys
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>>568280895
You act 1:1 like my girlfriend when she gets mad
>oh I'm not mad, ahahhhaha *shitty asshurt joke*

I get sex from her but I only get second hand embarrassment from you
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>>568281006
Why the hostility? I wasn't joking, genuinely happy for you two
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>>568280203
Lol at the switch to faggy passive aggressiveness. Nobody forced you to have retarded opinions, i'm just doing making sure that you don't deceive new players with your idiotic misinformation
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>>568281201
incredibly sad when someone gets called out on being an unfunny and cringe and he just continues the shtick
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>>568281286
You just raped him
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>>568281276
What opinions? I have only shown support for the lgbts, thought you would appreciate that as you slob on each others' knobs

>>568281286
Oh, so close anon. Just a little more introspection
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>>568281484
You lost so hard that you are now desperately trying to distance yourself from your opinions
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>>568281484
>Oh, so close anon. Just a little more introspection
I'm not the one refusing to level and instead getting lost in some retarded little whiny "oh so ur gay then huh? Huh okay, ahaha I'm so happy for you" shtick that reads like it's straight out of reddit
Other anon is right, Bolter on arbites is excelletn and very effective, you're just a little stupid faggot crying and throwing a tantrum because you can't handle being told that a problem is a you problem

genuinely crazy to hear the word introspection from you
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>>568279339
now who doesn't understand how analogies work, retard
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>>568281782
>your opinions
Which are?

>>568281896
Anon I'm not talking about bolters, just commenting on how cute you two are
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mindbreak complete
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The next tier in Darktide's community event is 40M, I'm now convinced it's automated and it only tracks what you do for your rewards.
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Imagine getting this completely and utterly mindbroken just because you lost an internet argument

Don't you love it when your opposition takes themselves out?
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>>568282214
>>568282683
you lost and i am *not* that anon
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>>568282683
>>568282214
I lost and you are *not that anon
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>heh, another day of pretending to be retarded on the-ACK
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After 37 hours in EA Rogue Core having solod D4 and both the dumbass gauntlets
holy shit is the game beyond mediocre
i cannot think of another game where teammates can you fuck up with every single action they do
and nothings gonna change because of GSGs dicksucking echochamber
i hate it here
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>>568283370
We tried to warn you, why didn't you listen?
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That settles it
The bolter is without a doubt one of the best arbites secondary weapons.
*bangs gavel*
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>>568283506
fuck you mean tried to warn me, i've been in this shithole since the first closed alpha invites went out
i've been watching live as every bit of feedback got ignored
the only reason i even have it is because a friend gifted it to me cause he wanted to play with me (he has 3 hours and dropped the game since)
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>>568283681
tanner disagrees
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>>568283720
Nobody here has been excited for Rogue Core.
>he has 3 hours and dropped the game since
Tale as old as time, question is why did you keep playing?
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>>568283681
this is some of the most pathetic posting I've seen here
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>>568279609
And replying to himself. It's peak autism that this guy's been doing this for like 3 years
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>>568283934
Honestly? sunk cost fallacy at that point, plus nothing better to do
went to grab all achievements and now i genuinely cant be arsed anymore
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>>568284072
Scroll up and you'll see the anti-bolter tranny embarrassing xerself.
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>>568284083
>everyone is the same person!
Cope or schizophrenia?
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>>568284395
no, it's you
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>>568284692
Of course you would say that. You're the one who's getting dunked on
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when I think a weapon is shit and someone says its good, my mind doesnt immediately go
>He must be bad! Because he disagrees with me so he's bad!
I instead ask how to make the weapon work and learn something and have a discussion

autists can not conceive ever having the wrong impression on any little niche aspect of what they fashion themselves experts in
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>>568284805
I don't speak basketball american
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>>568261527
Yeah completely useless on anything that's not needler
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>>568284926
Holy fucking trvke
>>568284939
Then why can i understand you?
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>>568285227
your kind adapted to understand white
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>>568284805
>dunked on
Your whole shitposter persona is based on a 13 year old boy humour/trash talking. You really think this is cool or what?
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Me? The haver of correct opinions
You? The virgin with bad opinions
Thunder Hammer is the best zealot weapon by the way
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>>568273441
Skits have combat stimms lorelet
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>m-monstrosity killing potential good!
he wipes to fucking burgles
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cooked his ass
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>>568285352
You think you're my therapist, or what? The only thing i'm unloading on you is my cum
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I give up, I'm not gonna try going for true survivor until they change havoc
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>>568285717
>therapist
The Rapist
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>>568285717
Yeah I'm gonna chalk this one up to "mentally/emotionally stunted". Unless you're actually 13 and illegally posting on this here 18+ forum?
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>>568285871
>he wants me to take him seriously after brutally losing and argument before switching to cringy posting about gay sex
Are you for real right now?
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>>568286012
Uh oh, meds time for adolescent babby
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so whens the wedding?
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>>568284538
Just a slight hope that only one person here could be so profoundly retarded.
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>>568285404
It really is sad how worthless the TH is, especially after the Eviscerator got buffed to just do everything TH can do but better (outside of boss one-shot memes, which the Evis isn't even far off from anyway lel). One day the obese fish will make our hammer good ;_;
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Reminder that this crashout happened because a bunch of retarded shitters couldn't accept the fact that they didn't meet the skill threshold needed to use the bolter effectively on the arbites class
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>>568286532
How did they buff it? I missed that update
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>>568286532
Wait, the evisc is finally good?
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>>568286825
no it isnt
i have no clue what buff hes talking about
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>>568286650
>>568286825
I don't know the exact details. I only just came back after a several month absence, but even on a crit build, my mk XV Eviscerator is shitting on Maulers/Crushers and 1-2 hitting those, and it's devastating against bosses, both shielded and normal. It's actually a ton of fun again. Push-stabs are killing ragers in one or two hits too (often one so long as you have your stacks of SA and whatever).

>>568286904
They buffed the saw damage a while back, maybe some other stuff too. I don't remember
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>run going smoothly
>honestly a bit of a bore
>director shits out everything at once and the team wipes in seconds
Well, that's what I get.
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>>568286642
you've been shitposting for four hours because you tried to give advice and someone immediately called you on not knowing what the fuck you were talking about
the only person having a melty is you
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>>568286951
I'll have to give it another go and see for myself. For some reason I just don't vibe with the relic sword as much, prob because it feels uninteresting as just power sword 2.0
>>
lel
https://youtu.be/g9nCj-y96eA?si=jrcmH7lP0khbXdCW&t=74
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>>568287094
How does admitting that you're too retarded and bad to overcome the drawbacks of using the bolter help you win the argument? Rhetorical question btw, you have no intelligent answers to give
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>>568287094
It's just our resident shitposter that comes back every time there's big news or a major patch. Just ignore him.
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skullcrusher melee, bolter, dog arbites is a cuck loadout for people who are mentally deficient enough to think plague ogryns are a serious problem
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>>568287148
Buy an ad, nigger.
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>>568287516
Look at this little guy. He's so desperate to be a part of what's going on
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>>568287516
ts facts
>>568287787
hes right though
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>>568285489
Are those Scions and Eldar fighting together?
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>>568286114
What wedding
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New thread
>>568288696
>>568288696
>>568288696
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>>568288417
>Scions
Really?
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>>568289038
Are they not Scions?



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