Heded to Bloo Edition>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/05-22-2026-update.135477/>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki/>Collection of useful character buildshttps://deadlockmeta.com/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/>Unofficial Competitive Newshttps://edl.gg/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>568040273
>venator is 40% wr at eternus 6 from 153 matchesplease help my boy
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Are the steam discussion pages a good place to ask for an invite?
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>>568097309hope we get pest and photographer
>>568097437brother fucking kill yourself!
>>568097437if you post your steam here I'll invite you
so what's the play with apollo now that you're no longer a mobility hero? you can block one source of CC with riposte, but you had to stop to cast it so they just rape you
>>568097465I love her art but I was disappointed by how she looks in the remakes.
>>568097620nobody is going to empathise with an apollo I'm gonna be real with you basically every apollo in eternus right now actually belongs in phantom tops
>>568097620melee Apollo
gay sex with apollo!
>>568097620Pplay him like boy calico,use her builds, dash in with riposte, blow ur 3s and 1, then ult out (hitting them on the way) complain abt health bloat if it doesn't work
>>568097620No reason to play Apollo this patch desu, especially with urn change.
>>568097309Why did Neon Prime get 50 heroes to play with while deadl*ck only gets 30, half of which are not viable at all?
>play lash for once>do no gun damage>need to be in orbit to do any spirit damage>even then its mediocreHard to believe I used to struggle against him in the past.What the fuck did valve do to him?
>>568097798>>568098107but I want to keep playing all random
>>568097309CAREFUL! HIJACK HAS TECH JAMMER!
>>568097671They remade her model for that crappy game
>playing with brother>we get bored and just start messing around in sandbox>we both go Bebop and start trying to outhook eachother>eventually we end up hooking eachother at the same time>we both get pulled and launch upwards at mach 50What can be done with this tech?
>>568098318oh shit where do you mod it cause I'm gonna be real I only bothered playing spyro 1 because of that model being ugly
>>568098331nothing brool sissy
>>568098331wait for next years april fools and do nothing with it in game
>>568098141Because>that is a mod>most of the heroes in neon prime were even worse and had placeholder abilities>they regularly deleted heroes in neon prime like hero labs
https://streamable.com/0l4kc3APOLLO IS SO WEAK NOW BROS! UNPLAYABLE REALLY!>you can build witch mail and just do this on repeat spamming riposte
https://youtu.be/xFrGuyw1V8s?si=9uQoj8eU3e_x-7CVAAAAAATEEENTIIIOOON DEADLOCKERS, THE UUUUUUUUUURN IS ON THE MAP! IT'S TIME TO DROP EVERYTHING AND HEAD DOWN MID TO BUUUUST IT DOWN AND SHAKE YOUR BOOTY! EVERYONE GET ON THAT BRIDGE AND DANVE LIKE IT'S YOUR LAST DAY ON EARTH! WHOEVER DANCES THE HARDEST GETS 100 SOULS AND A COUPON FOR A SPECIAL SPA DAY AT THE BARONESS!
>>568098618okay now pull that off in a real game while everyone is BROOOOOOOLING for urn
>>568098379Sadly nobody ever ported it but Spyro got his skins ported over
>>568098765>take any damage from a player during a brool>proceed to stun them for 3 secondsthis is death
no one cares that apollo sucks apollo players were so smug being the most obnoxious players same with doorman players and now that their character sucks they go 'b-but h-he sucks what am i supposed to do now...'
i love victor
>People hated AOE meta>Lets give them AOE 2.0 meta where your hero's viability is solo decided by how much they turn the urn fight into a aids festBravo yoshi
>Urn spawns yellow>I go green as Infernus>Enemy sends four people to stop me>I juke around terrain>Avoid Haze ult completely>Dodge two Yamato 1's>I get my ult off and stun all four of them>I even escape>>>My team ignores urn 5v2 and the enemy gets it for freeKill me
>>568099027trvke>OH MAN WHAT THE FUCK AN 8 SECOND COOLDOWN ON CLOSING DOORS WHAT DO YOU MEAN I CAN'T JUST STEAL EVERY SINNER AND TELEPORT 200M AWAY THE SECOND ANYONE STARES AT ME. THIS GAME IS FUCKING COOKED!
Urn caps way too fucking fast in all state.
No one is doing urns on my games...
>>568099365whats funny is that 8 second cooldown means nothing if you place your door next to a walker/guardian because most wont pursue you and risk taking damage from that but doorman players just want to be joechuck and send people through doors
>>568099365Slowing hex and Billy ult should stop enemies from entering doorsI want to make every doorman kill themselves as billy
>>568099584Hard agree.
>2 minutes into the game>graves just gets to spawn one of the 9/11 guys with more health than a t2 camp while also rooting you
so we can all confirm that Deadlock has gotten worse and worse the more Yoshi has touched Doorman since march 6th, right?
>>568099717>2 minutesRan into a Graves who leveled S2 first and it was every bit as retarded
in one day ive seen more billies than the last months combined
>>568099717The counterplay to wall is exactly the same as before, you can ignore the one ghoul it spawns 99% of the time, you don't even need to shoot it.
>there's a time limit between placing down door 1 and door 2. If you don't place the door 2 within that time limit door 1 disappears and the ability goes into full cooldown>doors have a limit of how many people can go through it and automatically close once the limit is exceeded. Enemies count towards this limit.>doors always appear on the map regardless of vision>doorman and his teammates are marked and visible through walls for 10s after using the doors>enemy cc that goes through the door has its duration increased by 1000%>if Dynamo is in a match with doorman Dynamo instantly gains every single buff possibleI don't give a shit anymore, I'm an accelerationist now fucking drop this guy to F- tier make picking him a reportable offense
>>568099825>ult in an open wide space>pull everyone out of urn contest>snipe urn for free while he's sticking his fat goat cock down their throatsmakes sense really
>>568099825This patch is basically tailor made for himBROOL godChain gang insane for securing urn.He's actually tanky now so you can't just instant kill him compared to before.
>>568099878>counterplay is just tank the damagethey just nerfed everyone's health
>heh im making them so mad as doorman im a genius>character gets dumpstered>NOOOOOOO THIS IS UNFAIIRRR DOORMAN IS UNPLAYABLE NO NO NOOOO NOOOOOO REVERT THIS PATCH HERE'S A 9000 PAGE ESSAY ON WHYdoorman players are so funny lmao
>>568100110Double jump over the wall and walk away the ghouls are slow as shit, the wall's cast range is pretty short and has an obvious sound queue so you know when she's placing it.
>>568100127He was fine before the spirit scaling changes on his door range. No one gave a flying fuck about him then, he had a purpose on a team and they simply just fucking refuse to revert that change. Now he's even worse off than he was before those changes were made.Not to mention the pants on head retarded change to his bell base damage that brought way too many eyes on him, because admittedly it was insane in lane.What the fuck were they thinking?
>rem>how good of a carry is this hero5
>>568100312>thinkingyou are expecting too much
>>568100281dude the game isn't sandbox mode, what if you're playing a 2 stamina hero, what if you had to use stamina to get to herlike all of those escaping the baroness with no stamina and slowed video only to see eternus players not be able to leave it even with stamina in an actual game
>>568100312lmao thats a good point when his bells did literally 400 damage before 2 minutes all eyes were on him and he just got dumpstered ever since lel meta slaves destroy another hero enjoy
Tried Warden for the first time just now and holy shit he's just every M1gger but better>Be any other M1gger>Get jumped on>Get raped to death>Be Warden>Get jumped on>Ult for 80% double resists>Have an ability that just gives you a shield and debuff resistI was twitching like I was on Vyper or something every fight worried about getting jumped on and raped before I realized that because the game was mostly even, the enemy just couldn't kill me
holy fuck inferno is fun to play2 lets me get away from overextending like a retardis this what they mean by 'once you go black you never go back'
>>568100430Okay then you should have posted>graves just gets to spawn one of the 9/11 guys with more health than a t2 came while also rooting you if you're playing a 2 stamina hero and you used stamina to get to her and you're an eternus player who just escaped the baroness
>>568100654>push side lanes like a giganigger>"oh look my ult is up">look for nearest teamfight>run in, explode, run out>go back to pushinghe's chill as fuck
>>568100654no actually they're referring to black men's huge cocks
>>568100663>when i'm in a disingenuous competition and my opponent jerks off to the JK hero
I love Victor poster would probably enjoy this band.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EAIGOLdzv8
>>568098331If you both play Abrams and shoulderbash each other at the same time, one of you charges along the ground normally and the other one will go into the stratospheret. tested it with a friend
>make hero with autoaim spirit bonus damage and resistance strip>people build gun on her>wwwhhhhaaaaatttt noooooo way how did this happen?????>nerf gun and buff skulls>skulls as in the ability that shits out skulls that chase you across the entire map and have a tiny miniscule hitbox and are always shaking and moving around>she doesn't even need to M1 anymore she just farts out a swarm of skulls and they do all the work>Graves is 500x more braindead nowBravo Vavle
there needs to be casual mode, playing new characters outside of seeker is a psychological torture>but broolthat's not a real game
>>568100654just don't fall for the gun meme>damn dude I fucking killed this game did you see how much damage I did to that guy at the end?>30k in 40 minutes>had to build toxic bullets, magazine size, fire rate, spirit, basically forcing the hero to have a gun>flame dash still did more damage than afterburn
>>568100798The wall really is really easy to play around man I don't want to entertain >Uhhhh what if I burn all my stamina and I'm a low stamina hero to begin withYeah if you engage in a bad scenario and the hero has a cooldown you know rapes you in that scenario available you'll probably die
>every time graves is allowed to be good everyone chimps out until she's nerfed to be garbage againhow funny that this never happens to characters like haze lol haze is just allowed to be good since 2024
>>568100987>playing new characters outside of seeker It's worse when it's a teammate playing a new hero and at the very start they type some shit like "first time playing this champ xD wish me luck!"Guaranteed 0/20/1 gigashitterniggerfaggot
>>568099365You know you could always buy slowing hex to stop him placing doors right?
Urn at mid is fun but feels like the timer on it should be longer, there's not enough time to react and fights turn into rng whack-a-mole melee.
>>568101062>good>immediately 70% wr in matchmakingsure
>>568100591Its not even his ult really, its his base HP that is fucking nuts. Dude has frontline levels of HP on a carry hero, of course its gonna be nuts
>>568101062Seven has been S tier for a year btw but if you bring it up Yoshi bans you from the Discord with the "delete all messages ever sent by this user?" option checked
>finally get to play doorman again now that all the kidnap redditors have fucked off
why is there no after match lobby so i can call people faggots
>>568100531Can you really blame meta slaves at that point?The bells were just bonkers early on at that time, and easy as fuck to use.
>>568101252him too whats with that? a character DARES to become good like take Viscous for example he was good for like two weeks before they took him out back and shot him meanwhile Kelvin is still BS same with Dynamo lol just slap on wrist nerfs to placate redditors and make them go 's-see dynamo got nerfed what are you whining about?'
>>568101258>Finally get to play doorman now that metaniggers are done raping his corpse.>Now he's worse than he was pre-march 6th>In every conceivable way
DAE feel like visuals are increasingly fuckedThink back 2 years or even just 1 year agoMaybe it's the teamfight moshpit meta but I swear every interaction now is a billion bright flashes, filters, random textures on the ground covering each other, etc
>>568101454shut the fuck up you reddit retard
>>568101454nah bwoh valve would never take a game with good crisp clean visuals and turn it into sloppified dogshi- uhhhh
>>568101445this'll happen to yamato players
>>568101445don't care. still playing doorman
Doorman nerfs got me saying Heil Hitler fr
Metaslaves are like locusts man jumping from character to character to dumpster them into the dirt and yet somehow Dynamo hasnt gotten the Doorman/Pre buff Victor treatment
>>568101258basedFUCK do nothing kidnap niggers
>>568101552>make teafag2 worse>make countercuck worse>release a game locked behind a niche hobbyfuck this company
>>568100783
>>568101454this current map with all this clutter is terrible, 4 lane map was so much nicer and cleaner. its a shame that solo lanes were aids
>>568101454>think back two years ago
>>568102439nta but i can see this perfectly clear theres nothing wrong with that now add celeste's flair there and ghouls exploding with mcginnis' ult
>>568100591after the bullet scaling nerfs, warden's gun dps is now equal to mo & krill's at 35 boons
It's pretty clear these devs don't know what they're doing. Running an 'experiment' with major game objectives, almost 3 years in, is honestly retarded. The worst part about the new urn is that it goes to show just how irrelevant the rest of the map is, and just how garbage team fights are in this team game. It's amazing that people are just now realizing that most of the combat is just aoe particle explosion spam with CC chains.
>>568102647deliberately obtuse
>>568102763NO NO NO IT'S AN ALPHA LET THEM COOK BRO JUST DON'T PLAY IT THEN?
>>568102763>experimentation le badnpcs like you are why the industry has been allowed to become an ocean of stale garbage
Can you believe some retards were excited for this patch?
>>568101445>>568101258the velocity changes buffed his gun btw you should be shooting at least a few bullets during the match now with opening rounds + sharpshooter + recharging rush + glass cannon
>>568103113>pressing m1 as doorman>everHow's it going down there in Arcanist?
>>568101445>>568101258Joechuck bros how are we feeling? More Shiv seething maybe?
>>568103058>instead of increasing Mina CD's they do some retarded negative debuff resist.ebin
>>568103307Before the patch he hated billy the most for some weird reasonNow? I imagine he SEETHES at him
>>568102784you are deliberately retarded
>>568097150I have a Doorman minor rework idea, posting it here so anons can review it/shit on it before I post to the forums and beg Yoshinigger to read it. Please give it a look-over and let me know how good/retarded you think it is>Doorman's gameplay fantasy is being a trickster who outsmarts and outmaneuvers people>Original sales pitch would have been along the lines of using his doors to attack from odd angles, sudden backline access, etc>Examples: While laning, you're crouching behind terrain to take cover but a door opens next to you and you get a bell to your face. During a front-to-back teamfight at blue walker Doorman pops out behind your team and ults your M1gger carry. >Actual door usage is exceedingly simple: perma-splitpushing and using doors to escape, or repeating the same kidnapper door setupI think the main issue is (pretty obviously) the ridiculous range on his doors.>Part of why the kidnapper playstyle is so hated for example is once he T3's his doors, a full 1/3rd of the map on his team's side is in range for a kidnap to spawn. He doesn't even need that many points invested to kidnap people to walker during early laning either. Proposal:1. Massively nerf the range on his doors but also massively reduce the cooldown. Like, multiple-casts-per-teamfight kind of cooldown. 2. In addition, his bells and cart get their damage boosted, but ONLY if they go through a door (maybe his M1 too)This would hopefully shift him into a proper "if you don't have 1000 hours on him you'll have no idea how to properly pilot him" hero like the trickster archetype demands. A shitter Doorman can't just spam the same gimmicks(either being an uncatchable splitpusher or repeating the kidnapper combo that you can learn from a 2 minute Youtube guide) while a really good Doorman player would be able to leverage rapid door casts to mindfuck people, land boosted bells/carts from unusual angles, and generally fulfill the gameplay fantasy of being a minor trickster deity
>>568103030They had years to do these you absolutely fucking mongaloid.
>>568103030what experimentation? this is dota with guns and KotH as a concept has existed since the middle ages; reusing old formulas. furthermore development of this game began in 2018 and they still haven't figured out core mechanics 8 years later?
>Better and easier to use gun build.>Better and easier to use spirit build.>More health with built-in sustain.>Far better mobility, being one of the best in the game despite being long range.>Far better cooldowns across the board.>Global map presence with an ult that also stuns every 60 seconds.>Curse as a built-in utility that strongly contests both urn and midboss.Is there any reason to play Vindicta over Chief Heya Hoya if you're not a foot fetishist? I seriously hope this is a sign of a rework in the making, because how can balance be so bad between two similar characters?
>>568103030>experimentation le badyes. you now remember herolabs
>>568103748she scales faster if you aimbot. that's about it
>>568103748nerf bebop.
>>568099825I hate it. I've been getting into him before the patch and now my niche pick is being stolen from me by meta slaves.
What fucking retarded on the dev team came up with "bell life-time" buffs anyway? I want him raped and shot
>finally buff rem>release urn changes in the same patch making the game unplayable>by the time urn is changed and the game is playable again rem will have been nerfedmake it stop
>>568101009can I play him if I would miss the sky if I had to shoot it
>>568102763You signed up to be a closed alpha tester.There should be a warning every match that you have to click "I understand" to close. Those annoying ones that check if you scrolled all the way down before enabling the button.
>>568104502I'm trans btw
>>568104502That's all well and good, but saying 'its an alpha' to excuse bad planning and design is like telling your kids 'My house my rules' while you rape them every nightThis game has not made one forward stride in months now, and this is overwhelmingly obvious to everyone
>>568104405https://files.catbox.moe/du5pwu.jpg
>>568104928i already came to rem porn earlier im good
>>568103113retard
>>568103702>no one:>white/spic larper: bbccccccc
>>568103645It's gonna be a new kind of annoying, but I feel like the skill level required to make Doorman effective is higher in your rework. I like it.
>>568104407your bullet falloff is disgusting so you're not shooting anyone from far away anyway, flame dash resets afterburn so just shoot enough to apply it then napalm and dash on top of themgun is mostly if they're out of the ground since you can't even jump while dashing
>>568105374only here niggas make a daily thread to post shit they hateyou see people mentioning indian chastes and gods and I have no idea what they're talking about
>play on my fresh victor alt>get the absolute shittiest player on my team every game i'm not understand how losers being so fucking bad...
>>568106180KYSYou are why matchmaking can never be fixedAlts are only acceptable if playing with a friend when running meme, troll builds like gun rem or melee lash and running it down
>>568103645spells doing more damage after going through doors is really good actuallyhe """"only"""" has one non ult damage spell so they keep trying to buff his bells but bells are easy as fuck to use so they nerf and buff and nerf like retards>>568105584NTA but I think annoying nigger characters in vidya are fine but the amount of annoyance they can create needs to be proportional to the skill/effort put inPeople dont hate doorman just because of kidnap, but because it's a chimp tactic that requires zero practice to pull offSeriously it's just>put 1 door down at your walker or spawn>find an enemy>press vortex bomb -> door -> cart buttons in order>profit
>>568106368i'm noob on victor so i play with other noobsnothing wrong with thatyeah sometimes i rage pick drifter and dunk lol but... mostly victorso yeah
>>568106368>Alts are only acceptable if Alts are never acceptable, all smurfniggers and altkikes will be dragged out of their homes and lynched in the streets once they add a $15 premium mode
>>568106513yeah you need to smurf in low rank to figure out how to uhpress 3 and walk at enemies
>>568106576>$15 premium modeMake it $60 so all the poor russians scream and shit themselvesNo poorfags allowed. Every cheater and smurf must ack themselves
>>568106368how is it acceptable to have fags and their smurf friend on your team running throw builds?
>tfw Russians and other thirdies grief games on fresh accounts to sell them on grey market sites because their currency is worthlessI fucking hate the internet now Everything is a fucking hustle
>>568106576>>568106696russians are not most smurfs. that is turkey and romania. we have to use vpn for creating account which make it annoying creating new smurfs. and when russians smurf its usually for comedic purpose (like making videos) not hostile like >>568106762
>3 win streak>forced 3 game loss streak with 5 players who feed relentlessly and only brool>every game 40k+ souls down at 20minutes
>>568104928not clicking kys whitey
>>568107198This has been my phantom games for awhile.I will get phantom 6Reach around one or two games away from ascendantAnd suddenly play with the most dogshit teams on repeat that send me back to phantom 3Its a endless cycle.
Urn as a concept sucks, just make it a monster you have to kill. That's how they do it in every other MOBA ever>if evenly-matched, monster is at mid>comeback monster will be near front of the base, has +30% resistance or some shit against the team that has the soul lead>if players from both team are present, the monster will preferentially attack the team with the soul lead>damage done to monster by each team gets you a % of it so even participating and doing damage and losing wouldn't be so punishing>still get your unga bunga BROOOLS but it's not a gay ass parry fest
What if breakables spawned at 8 minutes together with sinners
>most dried out boomer sounding faggot american making fun of accents while he somehow manages to go 2-7 on SSS tier character
>doors>highest skll expression in the entire kit>repeatedly gets nerfed>baroness>point and click hard cc>repeatedly gets buffed and also gives the squishy spirit character unstoppable for some reasonI don't understand the balancing reasoning here
>>568107901GT is literally shit
>>568107729if they make the comeback objective some shitty boss that is completely divorced from movement like every other moba I'm killing yoshi myself
>>568108193That's an easy fix, just have the monster move around a given area, like jumping from wall to wall or some shit
Why is that calico magic carpet + torment pulse cancer still in the game lmao is Yoshi retarded
>>568103603>billyProbably because him bouncing around makes the cart miss after they reverted the hitbox buff (lmao).
>>568108149no he's not you're just a mentally handicapped nigger who can't win even with an overtuned piece of shit hitler character. what an embarrassing thing to admit.
>>568108483he has dogshit winrate in literally every rank that isn't shitlowin fact this update made him even WORSE, i assume that the 2 rework didn't land as well as it could (or it's tricking people into making a shittier gun build), and he's not that good at contesting mid urn
>>568108751doesn't change the fact that a grey talon should literally never be going 2-7 with this
>>568101567As a Yamato main I have no idea why they buffed her since she was just fine and now I'm scared she'll get over nerfed as a result.
Every patch I somehow think it can't possibly get worse and yet every patch it somehow does
when will rem players be rounded up and gassed
I don't like the new magic carpet, seems like most don't want the gravity changes making it an overall nerf.
>>568108141I'm still praying the last months of doorman has just been a sick experiment.
how are these people the same rank as me
>>568109158>baiting the rem brappy gas image post againyou fartfags are the worst
birdingplus 10buffs 30i'm deadi'm not deadmhmokcontesti'm boxingbig baglook hazehaze is one (40% HP)noooohe doesn't dieunluckywe're losing wollker for thisholliday's not very guuud this patchgggo next
>>568109287they don't have to be match rank is AVERAGE rank
>>568108751>tracklockyou are a mentally handicapped nigger and admitted to it, again
>>568109581What site gives me this info
>>568109469THE REJUVINATOR IS DESECENDING...
>Billy is in every tournament gamefuck... it's over for us bros...
>>568108751yeah, talon is garbage. the patch was a nerf. rain of arrows was only useful last patch for suddenly gaining height to snipe fleeing or hiding niggers with charged shot and now it lasts half as long so its not as good as that. gun talon was always a comical joke, infact you can tell someone is an absolute shitter if they buy more than 1.6k worth of gun items until they have all the necessary spirit items. hes even worse this patch because he is basically useless for fighting urn.>>568108915but yeah its very hard to go negative KD on talon unless you are an absolute shitter or your teammates feed yamatot. talon one trick
>>568109756this is the Billyginning of the end
You guys dont use alt accounts?I have like 5 of them
>>568110557I hope all your accounts get banned and then irl you get smeared by a drunk driver
>>568109469metro?
Cannot believe what I just saw.> Pick McGinnis> Other team has Dynamo and Graves> Both of them buy Metal Skin and I have no idea why because our only gun carry is Drifter and he's playing like shit> Their Calico grabs urn, Dynamo and Graves are standing on the bridge> See my team coming in so I ult them> They both turn on metal skin and don't move> Both of them seriously think metal skin is going to stop my ult
>Dynamo is the most easy, baby difficult tier hero>Yet 9/10 Dynamos are complete retards that struggle with basic concepts as simple as he is>They feed in lane>They mindlessly build left to right>And they only consider how many enemies they can stun at once with their ult, oblivious to how many teammates they have around them>They'll unironically dive into the enemy team solo, ult and die before accusing the team of sabotaging them for not being there
>>568110557Your main and all your alts are going to get perma'd bro.https://www.dota2.com/newsentry/3692442542242977036Smurfing is a reportable offense, and the same people in charge of Dota 2 are now in charge of this game.Put the pieces together.
>>568111023My favs are the Dynamos who will refuse to solo black hole anybody for any reason.Oh yes thanks for letting the 50% hp 10-0 wraith just teleport away Dynamo. Great job! They are always fucking thinking about that potential 6 man hole and they will do nothing until they have it
Who is the British guy commentating in the nightshift stream. I thought it was zerggy but he's playing the game
>8/1/13 tournament Remsilly little guyI do hate that beyond the 1 point in everything Rem builds always get, chuds are being ignored earlybecause Tag is broken now and max ult CD reduction means you always have it for urn fightsbuff chuds
Add -gravity to golden statues, so everyone will start floating around the map during long matches
>>568110853ill just make more accounts and never go outside!SUFFAH ORACLE BISH!
>>568110513at first we were invisibilly... now we are invincibilly...
>NA tournament>EU teams dominating
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>>568111826dude this is fucking EPICmay I save your image?
>>568107198At what point are we no better than gambling addicts? This game has such little personal agency it's almost like you're more of a spectator than a player at this point
>>568109756He's basically replaced silver in prio, mega funnyAlso pocket is first ban, you literally cannot let this hero in the game for obvious reasons.
>>568109581How the fuck do the Oracles slip in, is it just duos?
>>568112192i like how pockets ult basically instakills you (makes you back out so you're basically dead)
>>568112250Either a duo or the statlocker doesn't reflect his rank(he doesn't input his games into their system)
>>568109581statlocker just makes shit up thoughever
>>568112558do you not know what "average" fucking means it's just to illustrate the point it doesn't matters if statlocker gets 1-2 subranks wrong you nigger
>>568104928Oh, thats porn of my main
I like the new urn, played a game yesterday where i arrived at the last second when everyone was already parried or on cooldown did my combo and the punched it, it was fun to clutch at the last secondThere are still shitstomp matches but they're noticeably less, I'd say the ratio now is 40/30/30, 40 is even matches and the 60% is matches where one team stomps the other with both being unfun for different reasons, it's still shit but way better then beforeI think the urn if fun but they either have to change it or change the way parrying works in general because in high level play you absolutely have enough members to chain parry the urn for it's entire duration
>>568099027what's funny is that they addressed every complaint people had about apollo, and also gave doorman silenceable doors like people wantedbut the moment those two got nerfed, now people are "wuhhhh worrying about the safety of the game wuhhhh" kek
>>568100916actually liked that a lot thanks unc adding that to the victor playlist
>>568113021>and also gave doorman silenceable doors like people wantedabsolutely nobody is complaining about this. its the 8 second timer to shut your door that totally breaks the flow and identity of the hero
most overrated (not good at the game) deadlock streamer?
>come back to the game after taking a break for new patch>go on the welcome back winstreak>game decides it's time to put mouthbreathers on my team>with the new urn changes it's quite literally impossible to carry themThis is painful.
>>568113282even with the nerf it's still one of the best escape tools in the gamebeing able to instantly tele away from enemies regardless of positioning was always going to be stupidly mind-numbing in practice
>>568109295no idea that existedi just want all furfags and pedos dead
>>568113309eidorian is genuinely the worst player ive ever seen. every time i see him he's crying about something while also playing like a lobotomite. in a just world he would be kicked, but he owns his team so lol
Also they need to change the timeout mechanics, had a game where we beat the enemy team every time at urn then kelvin took it to the other side of the map and dropped it but we were also locked out of getting the urn, it was fucking bullshit and we lost the game after that point because we were chasing an urn that is unpickable, they need to change it by making it undropable or something, or just simply allow the opposing team to pick it up like the old times
>>568113554>eidorian is genuinely the worst player ive ever seen. every time i see him he's crying about something while also playing like a lobotomiteyou have no idea how many other eternus players this also applies to
>>568113428>>568113428>even with the nerf it's still one of the best escape tools in the gameOnly because of the crazy range of the doors. The 8 second no close window feels like absolute shit to play with. I'd be happy to give up like 60% of the current door range to get rid of that shit. It's SHIT
>>568113309There can be no other answer
Neat idea:- Revert Urn to how it was before- Keep the current urn melee'ing system, so delivering urn isn't instantaneous and can more properly have a teamfight revolve around itthoughts?
>>568113554I find he always has an excuse for something too. Instead of just saying "My apologies I did not play good, I'll lock in better next time." Instead he goes on some rant about the world like some dramafag.
>>568113084that art was drawn by a chinese fujo i know it
You NEED to start building long range first item on Sinclair and OWN laning phase.You NEED to start DOING THIS.
>>568113760nobody thinks he's good though
I hope lowkey w somehow beats both NA teams in a NA tournament on NA ping
>>568113974he does
>>568113309Metro, easilyI don't think eido DMCAs you if you criticize him, but Metro absolutely will DMCA you for that
>>568113309Vegas, Goober and Eido. In order. All mechanically good but will never make it when actual pro scene develops because they lack cognitive function beyond doing fancy tricks.
>>568114087Vegas is also super fucking annoying, and any actual pro team wouldn't stand having him on their team
>>568113667>Pinned Tweet>@Eidorian510>7 Oct 2025>aspiring esports players >if i told you the key to winning TI or Worlds you're missing is not the 12 hours a day grind>->but from getting therapy, reading books, working out & cleaning your room - would u do it?>dont bullshit when other people are really out there getting it. gnGuy is a delusional faggot, compare that to vegas or mast(not a streamer or a pro player but still) and it's like night and day
>>568114202>just get good at deadlock by doing everything but playing deadlock, it's the strat!!kek
>>568114202mast is goated i love that guy
doorman players all feel really desperate for someone to call them an ethnic slur for their sick outplay but 75% of what they do is throwing a bell at you and shooting it in midair with no counterplay
>>568113960>you need to start DOING-IM DOING IT
>>568113309Metro and it's not close. He plays like a brainlet and has the reaction time and aim of an average 45 year old construction worker.
>>568113887heavy melee to flip is awful too, anon
>>568114338Same, genuinely the most chill player I've ever seen in this dogshit game
>>568114075touché
>>568114575might be a necessary evil in low elo tbdesubecause all of my shitlow teammates (before the patch) would forget about urn to brool after the urn was dropped (which usually resulted in one of the enemy teammates picking up the urn to deliver it for free)
>>568114338oses7 is annoying at times, but what separates him from other eternus players is that he's actually competent at the game on a respectable and technical level
>>568114775I guess, but now you can't sneak comeback urns and the damage resist aura is both not visually communicated and not close enough to flip a fight
>>568114202>>@Eidorian510>this patch just changes the whole game and now this $10000 death slam tournament will be extremely mickey mouse but oh well OVERWATCH 3 LETS GO!! >(also never touching apollo again)basically "nooooooo why did you patch the game before my tournament you can't do that reeeeeeeeeeee" even though the game is unfinished and the tournament is unofficial
>>568115062is the winner getting 10,000 fake dollars because the tournament is unofficial?
>>568115062in dota they will do big patches in the middle of tournaments
>>568114202It's so weird to post things like this when he's never won anything that matters. When this game inevitably develops a real comp scene almost none of the current NA "comp" players will make the cut. A select few like Rocker and Hydration might but Eido is so far behind mechanically that he has absolutely no chance.
>>568115062>after playing @DeathyDL $10,000 tourney today. i can say this urn mechanic even if its unbalanced right now is so fucking fun oh my god. Day 2 Tomorrowhe seems to really like the new urn changesI wonder if other eternus players like the urn changes
>>568113309SuperTF probably
>>568115254Waiting for the inevitable Korean teams to stomp the scene.
>>568115356leave him alone
>>568115492they are already active, and they don't clear the russians, chinese or even japanese.
>>568113925korean/chinese fujos are unmatched
>floormen get raped back into even and worse economy since buffs after they dominate lane thanks to comeback urn>start trying to feed characters into lowkey w to force a comeback urn, except the solo money is all going into the m1 carry
>players running it down mid to try and bring Urn out of cumback
>>568115254>Eido is so far behind mechanically that he has absolutely no chanceare you referring to his macro, his micro, his movement or'cause if anything I think he has a weak as hell mental that is easily shook
>>568115301I like it, feels like an actual brawl with a chance for the losing team to fight
>>568116126losing the urn is instant game over so it's always worth running it down than just to lay down and take it up the ass, the only alternative is if you're gonna take a walker for it otherwise you ALWAYS run it down mid and hope for the best.
>>568115679Most of the good Korean and NA pros are just playing Deadlock casually until it's closer to release. For example, Speedily, Rupal and Seeker play a lot of Deadlock but don't plan on switching over until a few months before release. There's no point wasting their time playing in Deadlock Fight Nights where half the people are 30 year old wagies that are obviously completely washed and irrelevant.
>>568116306It would be but +50% resists is probably a bit too extreme
>>568115931It's weird how they love erotic gore so much over thereNot at all surprised they've got fucknugget victor art
>>568116487Yeah I'm fine with them tweaking it here and there, I'm just saying that previously it wasn't this fun and we didn't brawl at the urn, it felt like a chore and the terrain didn't help
i forgot how obnoxious (e)sports fans are
>if you're worried about economy, you're playing a spreadsheetehh??????? this game and its mechanics is wholly centered around economy, tf is this guy talkin' bout?
I am very bored of brawling, can I just stick to a lane relentlessly until it's down and then change lanes and repeat? I don't mean buckbreaker victor style where you just run in and die, I just mean relentless lane pushing.
>>568097309Valve almost released concord
>>568117012Yeah? Play Infernus, Shiv, or Ginnis and glue your left nut to yellow and your right nut to green
>>568116984I think he's talking about midmaxxing the urn resists, removes a lot of the core game into tryharding that specific mechanic above all else.
>>568116378straight up, I wish there was a metric to see how many games where a team who got the first urn turn wins. I bet it's probably around 83% of the time.
new urn is just midboss fight but every 5 minutesI don't like it. Before we had koth/ctf. now we have koth/koth. needs a revert.also urn fights are more fun because the space is more open. mid pit needs another rework.
>>568117146Ok, that makes more sense
with the recent patch removing comeback mechanics altogether, I think it's fair to say that riotchads won and yoshi is copying their system
>>568116539guro is so cute and intimate, you can tell when its a woman drawing/writing because its mostly yaoi/yume and the guy is crying and looking cute like a wet kitten in the raini wish drifter x victor was more popular, alas
>>568117252...and things riot devs tell themselves so they can sleep better at night
The new urn is so fucking dogshit. Who thought mandatory 6 man warioware teamfights at mid every 5 minutes was a good idea? You can't even get a side objective because you're just throwing the fight and you don't have the time to get a side objective since the mandatory teamfight is in the middle of the map so you can access anywhere immediately afterwards
>>568117240Nah its fine, he talks a lot of dogshit (He was downplaying yamato before this patch and kept saying SHE DID LE NOTHING)But he's right in this specific instance about the urn, its just bad game design about cheesing urn resists.
>>568117176>midboss fightNever existed, everyone always takes mid when most players on the opposing team die>>568117012Yeah just pick a character with gun shred like seven or good get out of jail for free tools like infenus and wraith
>>568117378with old urn people could respond just as fast thanks to teleportersI think split pushers are just retarded and are having trouble adjusting
I've been addicted to this game months now but thanks to Yoshi I can finally take a break, this has been the worst patch in recent memory
>New urn mechanic casually skyrockets the winrate of every area denial heroThis shit is so aids, if your team has seven/graves/victor/mcginnis you are guaranteed to win every urn interaction.
what hero should i learn now that ive reached a new peak with shiv?
>>568117660same. i unironically played 1-2 games of deadlock every morning for the past 3 months as soon as i woke up, but after trying out 5 games on the new patch i completely stopped playing for now. i do enjoy watching streamers bitch about the changes though
I'm going 0/14 on Mina and you can't stop me
>>568117880hors
>>568117660>Thought the march patch was the worst patch ever>We get thisDoes not inspire confidence if they're doing stuff like this so late
ive been playing 320 hours since i started playing deadlock in february and i still put in like 7 games every day
>>568117880ive been thinking about learning pocket. But thats another hero i would tank my elo with at the beginning. Maybe even worse than with shiv and that was rough already.
>>568117927Cute!
>EU on 200 ping>still beats the NA team 2-0
>>568118357Nah Pocket is way easier than shiv, don't fall for the memesJust rush your gun spike first, that's the elo potion.
>11% meleeDo I need to man the fuck up and throw some more haymakers or is this the correct way to play Billy? I just use 1 to reload and if I run out (no fast charge so I only get 2) I just wait for the reload or sneak a light melee in.
>>568118432Not even that but they have a random sub from FUCKING SIBERIAN russia 200+ ping, and they still won.NA is a meme region
>>568116150His macro is probably the best part of his game. He has weak mental though and gets tilted really easily. His micro and aim can't compare to players like Rocker, Lefaa or oses and we haven't even seen the real aim players transition to Deadlock yet. He's known for his "movement" but that's largely because he buys superior stamina, warp stone and often majestic leap and plays extremely overpowered heroes with movement abilities (Mina, Pocket, Silver etc.) on top of that. Any top player could do that but it's generally bad because of the limited slots. Top tier movement is someone like oses that doesn't have to crutch with these heroes/items and just survives by his positioning and hitting all iads/edge/corner/vent boosts consistently during fights.
>>568118453How is his playstyle? I know meta builds rely on many active items and you are playing around cloaking, going in, popping your actives and abilities and getting out repeat. Kinda similar to shiv but with way less hp.
>enemy team has 3 people with 500+ hours>against my 2 players with 25hrs each (they're premade) you dont even have to smurf, the matchmaking is just actually broken
I like the new mechanics but I feel like it should be for a new objective, not urn. Some kind of combination between urn and midboss.>Miniboss you kill in sidelane >Drops a doohicky you take mid>Drop it off for a team wide stat boost. Would be cool if the buff got stronger when people died near it while dropping it off. Call it sacrificial lamb or something. Makes it more of a gamble. Old urn should definitely return though. I liked running touchdowns.
I really hope they don't nerf Graves.She's fun again for once.
infernus feels really good to play in lane now, chunky headshots stacking afterburnif only it did damage
>>568119076just port factorio into deadlock and the first team to launch a rocket wins
>>568118817the suitcase duration is hilariousthrow cloak take retarded engage go invuln forever cloak out
>>568118817you do whatever you want for 20 minutes then you are an ult bot and win any teamfight you can get ult off on 2+ people (even if you die)
>>568118817you ever play puck?because he is supposed to be a puck reference/clone
>/dlg/>"new urn is win more, the 50% resist does nothing!!!">pros>"50% is too much, it's too strong as a comeback mechanic!!!"Well?
>>568115213It was pretty rare for major tournaments to be fair, I don't think it ever happened at a major or TI.Still retarded to expect vlave to be planning around tournaments during an alpha anyway
>>568119774you're missing the part the pros bait the comeback urn by letting it reset and engaging stragglers in mid
>>568117880get a life outside
>>568119774It took time to develop, in the case of the pros there is night and day between yesterday and today, and today they are focusing on heavy eco manipulation to the point of finding feeding a valid tactic at the moment.
i hate how easy graves is but i still love playing her>dont even need to aim the line, just spam it for ghouls>same thing with gravestone>same with with deadheads>once the summons are out, press heroic aura to get free 2x dps and instakill anyone
>>568119982i wont do that
guess I'll just fucking die then
>people keep making 67 jokesis this game for gen alphas or what
>>568120221>current pros: sitting around the average age of 22>when the game releases a few years from now: the same
>>568120059AH TRIED TO BE NICE
>>56812022167 WAS 8 YEARS AGO BRO
when does this stupid grand final start
>>568120073>I'VE GOT'EM>they can run.. but it wont save'm>IT'S YOU OR ME>CRACKING SKULLS>SUCKS EVERY TIME>THIS ENDS NOW
fucking hate these dumbass fights in mid at 10-20 mins where they last for 3+ minutes and the first enemy you killed just respawns and comes back
>>568120073Is that that 4 stack of fags spamming overwatch quotes in all chat?
>>5681198397.41 happened during a 500k tournament in march
>>568119774>have low map control because losing>if I pick up urn there will be 4 enemies mid before my team can even show up
>Pocket>Mina>Both are retardedly good at escaping bullshit situations that would kill 90% of the rosterThey really should have gotten married. Their kids would be suck gigantic slimeball niggers
it's not even a real tournament, its like going to the arcade and putting money in the pot to play or watch, that is hosting the game you want to play/see played. this isnt run by valve and even if it was run by them, valve dont give a shit and drop updates after stagegroups and other shit during tournaments. the whole point of deadlock for icefrog is to move away from "tournaments require x.xx to stay as it is for yz time because... contracts!", dota sponsers and contracts hold patches hostages because of betting etc. look at csgo never changing and only run by gambling. this is a fact and not something looked or spoken about. ow going to ow2 is the biggest outlier on this subject when it comes to IPs, ownership, combining with tournament and sponser contracts. had so many issues that they needed to literally legally make an OW2 just to avoid those 20 year contracts titling OW
>first game as rem>drifter on our team>he is complete shit, barely gets a kill by the end, dies like 12 times>we lose of course>2nd game as rem>the enemy has a drifter>he barbeques our retarded celeste and savours her all match>gets like 12 kills by midgame, most of them celeste>we also lose this one>both games i end up top of souls on my teamwhat the hell can i even do
>>568122140play a carry with agency
>>568122140>REM with top souls You are unironically trolling your team you noob
>>568122140Stop stealing all the sinners from your teammates
>>568122308>>568122304if i dont take them, then the enemy will, as they already had map control and were going all over our backlines
anyone tried mercurial+escalating on heroes like lash and bebop? mercurial procs the stacks pretty quick.
>>568117313>picVictor x Vindicta is a bizarrely popular ship for two characters that never interact.
>>568117313victor horsecokc
just realized that this new urn is unironically a rem buff>can sleep them right as it gets placed and melee it>his pillows push enemies back, so he can get them away from it to steal italready stole 2 urns like this before vanishing into the air with a shadow weave like the filthy rat i am
why the smurfs always play silver and yamato
>>568123171>win lane>snowball the game>not crazy popular or easily shutdown
>take a 2 month break>Come back for new patch>Rank dropped from Archon 3 to Seeker 6I can watch as these peoples' brains buffer. I guess I'm playing like a nigger to rank up.
I'm scared to queue up aloneCan I play with you guys?
>>568123171those heroes are unforgiving in eternus, they are practicing with the training wheels on
>>568103645Does not matter, doorman will always be the scapegoat nigtubers use to point the finger of balance away from their favorite heroes.
what do you think is going to happen to urn
>>568123447Sure. Post steam link and your bussy and I'll join right up.
>>568123492The Seven in your pic is genuinely literally unironically me
>>568123607youre getting raped
I enjoy solo raping farmbots with 10k gold above me as Billy.My favorite thing is camping in the side lane T3 camp veils and popping up as soon as they use their spells and are almost out of bullets.
kidnap doorman would've been fine if vortex web didn't exist, but the ivy illuminati made doorman get nerfed instead of just removing this item for being shit and inherantly impossible to balance like they did soul rebirth
>>568124006>ivy illuminatielaborate
>>568121924>the whole point of deadlock for icefrog is to move away from "tournaments require x.xx to stay as it is for yz time because... contracts!well that's definitely a shame because the game has already been taken over by the gambling addict - esports goblin alliance
>they got rem getting 60k healing with no healing or boosting items nowgreat idea yoshi!
The urn should just be a loot goblin that frantically runs around the map and as you damage it then your team gets souls.
How do you turn commendations off?
im just gonna play streetbrawl until urn gets patched again i dont like it
>win lane>30k ahead>they just collect urn for free because of kelvin>lose lane>loser harder>because they just collect urn for free because of kelvin???????
>>568124521ok but then they would have to pay the voice actor to record new lines for the urn and we don't have that in the budget
Magic carpet Celeste might be the most cancerous shit I've ever seen
>14 deaths in 14 minutesunironically what do I do in this situation
>Ecelebs will look at you with a straight face and say "it sucks that people minimize Graves to autoaim because she's actually super duper hard to play correctly with her abilities">She's literally so easy that when she gets buffed everyone becomes a Graves player overnight
>>568125330doesnt matter just win urn
bro. these urn changes need to be hotfixed. This is not fun
>>568125449only if the other two are a dynamo and a kelvinchances are they're on the other team
>>568125486white woman herethe urn changes are quite goodindian men are very handsome too
>>568115153They certainly aren't 10,000 dollars from Valve
>>568124004>press F>billy player now on the ground as I send him to spawnkek
>>568125838i'd play with indians over russians any day
>>568119204Same but im split desu, on one hand it makes zero sense for them to nerf her again when she's mediocre, and also when she finally FINALLY is able to do what she was meant to do day 1, summoning and macro splitpush shenanigans, especially with 70% of her "buffs" being fixes, on the other hand these are the same retards who released her in a weak, buggy state, and then kept nerfing her into the ground until the only way to play her was to afk farm for the entire match so you can buy yourself into becoming a hero like other heroes
>>568125410In my experience, auto aim characters/weapons get over nerfed because people can't learn good positioning.
They still need to buff graves gun dps and autoaim range.
>>568120221For a second i forget the gay meme and thought you were referring to soldier 76 and metro's faggotry before deadlock,
>>568119204shes not even that strong, the urn mid is inflating heroes with cc
>>568126409nah, they should buff the skulls and make grave's gun be the skull herding tool
they need to nerf gun again
having bad teammates feels even more infuriating with this urn change
>>568126534Its a certified yoshi rape patch so you will get plenty of sacks of shit sliding down elo hill after losing their footing atm
>>568101567Yea it will, at least character tourists will fuck off my character but she'll probably get nerfed to shit
>>568126384you're gonna have to get close to her at some moment unless you're vindicta, in terms of not losing lane sure but what can you do if she's behind a wall, let her run?
>>568125931M1 -> Bashdown -> Blasted -> M1 -> Bashdownis usually enough to kill them. I don't even go for light melees unless I bait out the parry first. By that I mean you just sit on top of them and reload menacingly. They'll break before you do.
Yoooo lash/dynamo/billy/abrams/infernus/ginnis/paradox/kelvin/seven/victor pressed 4 on the urn fight and won the brool! Insane wicked turbo hype epic state of the game for the next 3 months!
>stack raping season but your stack is a bunch of shitters that can't play like a team even with commsgonna be donating elo then
>>568104502Yea I'm an alpha tester, that implies that they should actually listen to feedback from me, the tester.So far all they seem to be doing is listening to "pros" and whatever bullshit they cry about that given week and their legions of retarded midwit followers repeating them without any thought.It goes both ways
>absolutely demolishing lane phase>fed 5 kills as graves>killstreak, pressure, soul adv. everything>wardenig rage quits>counts as lossfuck valve
>>568126534playing frontline with low tomtoms and oracles while being masters and eternity on tank is making me wanna claw my eyes out. No one knows spacing or how to walk
>abrams literally gets 1 melee damage on shoulder charge since I last playedso do you just build gun damage only?
>>568122495couldn't find the REM version
>>568126012>exposing yourself to small amounts of disease to prevent major disease is.......LE BAD ACTUALLY!timmies mad
>>568127934spirit
God, just played a game where my team and enemy team were chatting non-stop for 40 minutesWhen I told to start playing a game, they called me a "killjoy"Faggots like them need to be executed
>>568129250Americans or brits?In my experience those are the biggest yappers in games, very rarely germans
can anyone explain why there is no solo lane? I think having one solo lane in mid and the others being duo lane is a really good design as it gives room for skill expression in a duel, also dealing with ganks and and stuff is just interesting. Would be so cool to have that in Deadlock and idk why it hasnt been tried.
>>568129519They were EurosI am mad because we could have won that game but those fags decided it's a good idea to chat instead of farming
>>568129795then everybody fights over who gets the solo lane
>>568129904back in the day people fought over who didn't get the solo lane because the solo lane got raped by whichever duo lane won and rotated over
>>568129795isn't solo lane kinda viable now that the healing trooper heals for longer?
>>568125410Popular character gets buffs and people rush to play her, news at 11. She's a noob stomper (aka 90% of the playerbase minimum), there's a reason nobody runs her in Night Shift. It's basically impossible to get value out of her vs a team of actual good players who position themselves properly and have good movement.
>>568129795it was too easy to gank so it was removed it doesn't work in a movement shooter moba
name: apollorole: ntr victim
>>568126829>what can you do if she's behind a wall, let her run?this is the median player clamoring for graves nerfs
>>568130934where does the extra person go to farm tho
>>568126829lol
>>568131291Who does he get NTRd by?
>>568131291>[ ] Adjust boon & ability values>[X] Delete the brand new characteris this valve magic?
>>568131338>>568131534these are the retards pretending they're good with no proof
>>568131606generic obese balding 30+ year old man(me)
Just remove fucking urn mechanicIt will never be funIgnored urn in the old patch, will ignore urn in the new patch
>>568131769lol
>>568129250NEETGODs don't care about W/L
>>568132018>ignoring urn in new patchwhy even queue up them? you'll just lose every game
>>568132104urn = cheatsreport everybody who does urn for cheating
>>568132018replace urn with the football and add other objectives to cycle throughgame fixed
crazy how if marvel rivals or league released a patch where everyone goes to the middle of the map and spams 2 keys for 10 seconds while spamming aoe abilities you faggots would be laughing your ass off but when big daddy gaben does it you just open up your asshole and continue to be raped by these shit patches
>>568131769you can literally just double jump over it dude, with any character anywhere on the map at any point you have at least one stamina bar
>>568132104I gave up running/contesting urn when I realized that no one on my team gives a fuck about itSo I stopped giving a fuck too
man following these pro games is really rough. Dota lends itself better for watching but deadlock it just feels hard to know what happens in a teamfight
graves ghouls are still bugged. if they're in the middle of the jungle, they won't go to a lane and just stand there doing nothing
I haven't played this patch at all, but all the videos I'm seeing is convincing me I should just wait until they remove this retarded urn shit.
Gun Viscous is completely gone. And I know things will never go back to the way they were... But I have to try. I have to make this work, not just for my sake, but for all Viscous players out there.
new objective concept: hunt down rem's familyit turns out rem's family is being used to power the ritual, but every 5-7 minutes, they escape onto the map screaming in pain. They do not appear on the minimap unless you have direct vision, but you can locate them by their screaming. Hunt them down and kill them, bringing their corpses back to your base to gain golden statue buffs and souls (scales with game length)
>>568132823How it feels to be in uber shitlow. No coordination between retards so the enemy gets it for free
>>568133472>No coordination between retardsFunny how that only happens on my team and enemy team is always giga coordinated
>>568126534I hate having bad teammates when I'm playing support, literally you get to do nothing
>doorman in game>doing joechuck build>im graves>skullmaxx>rape him with disarming hex and skullsfuck you faggot its my time to be annoying
>>568131606Giest, silver and victor
>alchemist game>enemy lash goes 31/1>just completely unstoppable for 40 minutes (he refuses to end>check profile>its privatehmmm
>>568133886why does disarming hex matter
>>568101567i wouldn't mind a few nerfs just so people stop whining about her and so i can have her back from the metaslaves.
>>568133886>disarming hexwha??? How does that counter doorman isn't his main cancer the kidnapping and bells?
>>568134123>>568134178his gun pierces and is good for elimating the skulls
>>568133031too bad, based on how people are reacting to this patch, it's easy to tell this game's playerbase isn't ready for how overwhelmingly OP graves would be if her ghouls also had functional AI
>be pocket>T3 cloak>duration extender>spirtual overflow>superior cooldown>steal sinners>steal ALL the sinners>enemies cannot catch me no matter what they do because of my T3 cloak and other item bullshit>become lane-pushing-hitler because everytime I'm out of position or overextend in killing enemy troopers, I just teleport away>farm troopers in lane freely because my escape tool is just that good>get fed>teleport around the fucking map with magic carpet, warp stone, other bullshit>end the game, always having the most souls on the teamthe most aids way of playing pocket, and he's so fucking fun dude. He is THE server admin of Deadlock, no contest
Another day on deadlock another Victor player saying they are trans...
>>568134023>30/0 curse Haze doesn't even have a set up Steam profileHmm, totally normal player
NA is officially better than EU now.
>>568134328>tfw too dumb to play pocketmust be nice
>>568131363true
MLC destroying LKWFellow euGODs how are we feeling?
>>568134505He just gave you the blueprint to a retard friendly Pocket strat.
damn how bad is the EU if even eido is having a good game
>>568134648This is my 9/11.
>>568118605>NA is a meme region?
>>568134843is he that finished if hes been part of the first dynasty in the game tho?
>>568133823Devil's advocate, you could be a shit shotcaller and delivering urn to the enemy team. So many players have an ego so inflated they make these decisions without even halfway acknowledging the game state, greifing the match. No, you do not deliver urn to the Dynamo that has ult up in mid lane, then bitch about your teammates when they get it.Matchmaking sucks, but so does most of you.
>>568134648>Beating a team that has to play with a 100-200 ping LKW has a sub too.
>>568135001It's funny how MLCs build like 3 melee heroes each round too. Parrying on high ping is pretty much impossible
>>568135001true. Are they at least switching servers every game? Would be fair. How good was the guy thats being replaced? Lomein said he was quite important
REMINDER:IF YOU AREN'T BUYING MAGIC CARPET ON EVERY SINGLE CHARACTERYOUARETHROWING!
>>568125486what needs to be hotfixed is this dog shit high prio change on eternus.
>team just decides they're never going to help me contest urn>lose game
Revert the doorman door close time and I will play again.
>>568136127Thanks for the feedback!
>>568135571yesterday i played a game where the enemy team was malding and their mo bought magic carpet and flew around the map it was so funny to see
>>568135845Thanks for delivering urn for enemy team, retard
>>568136248No. The enemy team picked it up and I had stuns and no one wanted to contest. Even when behind. So what am I supposed to do?
>>568136127mmmmmmmmmmmmmnyo
>>568135845>be shitchon>see urn make it to middle where I was fighting>walk away to go farm jungle creeps instead of brool for onceits that simple
>>568134505he's just an ultbot outside of the schizoid strategyso I tried to make him a little more endearing to me
what is this draft from LKW broEUgods we are finished wallahi
Bet you've never seen a Rem mvp in a normal game!I think I can feel my Rem power increasing...
>>568136414LKW has to draft heroes that function in high ping sadlyIts why everything is so unequal
>>568136414bro shut up nobody watching
>>568136414They didn't know MLC can't play Shiv. They fucking instalocked Lash Doorman after LKW picked him. I actually laughed at how knowledge gapped they got.
need a godlike cosmetical and zergy game now to avoid the stomp
>>568136248this isn't a thing now that it's mid
>all my carries are giga feeding retards that never actually die contesting a single objectiveincredible eternus match quality
So instead of addressing the actual issue with urn. Which is, come back urn is unobtainable for the team who actually wants it because of the soul gap. They just make it worse by turning it into a brool in mid that a losing team can't even reach, let alone contest.
>>568134505rem players cant be stupid our intelligence just lies elsewhere
>>568136741was the enemy team comp that fucked or something
>>568136414TIL there are "pro tournaments" in a game where you just go to mid and spam parry and heavy melee
>EU gets fraudulently destroyed by high ping againjust wait till LAN nacucks
>>568136127I dont even mind the door that much but the non-stop bell damage nerfs are just obnoxious. It's getting so bad I think I may have to go gun on him to do any damage.
>100k in 27 minutesicefraud does it again
i killed billy 4 times in lane his team got urn then he soloed me with 2k less souls is this fair?
>>568137142me on the other team
>>568130007that's because roamers like lash were giga OP and got to collect two waves worth of souls on every rotate.>>568131291he seems more like a victim of bara rape tee bee h.
Why does leveling swap on paradox still cause you to use itThey did a buff pass on her too and didn't fix it?
its so over
EU bros...
>>568136761>50% and 50% resists are somehow worse then old urn that gave you nothingI don't get it, only games where we shit on the enemy team and secure every urn winning every fight are ones where they have an a sleeper agent going 0/17 and another one in the same lane going 1/12. the solutions to such game is obviously an FF voting button but icefraud would rather die then ever add that so some games they're basically held hostage for 30 minutes while someone runs it down green again and again
>>568138401>>568138213What happend?
man i really need to learn celeste movement, shit looks fun
>>568138819Because you could sneak it away from them before and it was really far away from their base.Now the enemy know where and when the fight will be so they can chase you off before you ger there.
Uh EUbros is this bo3.........
>>568138973LKW gets destroyed by MLC
>lkw had comeback urn>they just keep farming until it's neutral>get shit on in the teamfightActually out-macro'd.
>>568139342fym outmacrod this was entirely their own fault. LKW outmacrod themselves
ok I changed my opinion I hate new urn
>>568139734It takes exactly ONE of the following to sour an opinion on new urn:>random last second flip>any teammate not showing up when the whole enemy team shows up>comp diff faggotryIt's not long for this world.
>>568137028the eu team made some truly dumb decisions, both during draft and gameplay this series. low ping wouldn't have saved them
If I don't wake up tomorrow to see the urn patch reverted im gonna be pissed
EU just got shat on, complete sweep
>>568140402i dont get why they think haze/sinclair arent troll picksthe fuck is this shit
>>568140407the frog has got to read the feedback firstyou'll get some changes on wednesday at the earliest.
>>568140407Tomorrow is memorial day lil gup, all Valve employees are at the beach, wait until Tuesday evening
Why isn't the urn just reworked to be a ctf style objective? It's a tried and true competitive shooter game mode and would map onto Deadlock fine, I imagine.
>Watch as a Glocket dives an over farmed Seven who is 20k up on him get melted instantly>This is somehow my fault for not dying with him
>wins are normal games>losses are straight up 3 niggers going 3-15 eachnice one thanks valve thanks for respecting my time and handing me forced 50 games very fun
>>568140960>wins are normal gamesuh huh.... wins definitely isnt the 3-15 israeli sleeper agents landing on the other team
>>568140712Yoshi is my dad and we're going to Six Flags on Tuesday cuz he says the game sucks rn
>>568140960If you get on a winstreak, they'll put you into that kind of lobby because they're expecting you to carry those fucking monkeys. And since you can't carry those monkeys, they'll demote you because you're apparently not good enough to carry them.
>>568134648Lightbringer exposed as a complete fraud. Dew can basically 1v6 his entire team.
This nigger Eido is just admitting MLC have access to the experimental server, the real playtest server
>>568141086Keep in mind I'm roaming as support ivy and I'm 6-1 post lane from doing this and they're losing their lanes this hard regardless.
does mystic slow + slowing bullets stack in any way? or is it completely redundant
>>568141195>2 giganigger smurfs on the enemy team>lane against one of them and barely win lane>the other slurps up his lane and goes 14/1 against actual monkeys i swear, people changing lanes at the start somehow aim for the weak links
>>568141424Both teams do
>>568141551tldr yes they stack but with diminishing returns and you can't slow someone below 2m/s
And I thought Crucible balancing was shit, what the fuck is this dumbass doing?
>>568127079celeste looks way better with clown makeup. My penis hard.sent from my iphone
>Victor>Dynamo>Graves >Lash>Kelvin>MikuGinnisWho else am I missing for my "wins urn fights" roster?
>>568141762>muh competitive integrity in a closed beta gamecomp sissies need to get the rope
GUN VICTOR DOWNGET DOWN MR PRESIDENT!!!
>>568142461Billy, pocket, seven, mirage if you tornadomax
>>568142461swap kelvin and victor for pocket and seven, they're stronger in general not just for fightingkelvin's thing is just being completely uninteractive ulting the urn and fucking off with ice path
>>568142537Gun Victor is old news, spirit Victor is in. We are in the age of urnfight AOEslop after all
You can't melee all 3 of the T3 minions anymore.Venator is now unplayable.
>>568142537>23k souls victorif a victor player falls behind in souls the game should automatically ban him for being a retard
>>568142537rare game without kelvin or graves>>568143258I imagine he didn't bother anymore by venator's fifth death and when he saw they were 30k down at 15 minutesI can't believe they didn't manage to comeback with the new urn!
yoshi revert the urn NOW!!!!! NOWWWW!!!!!!!!! IVE HAD ENOUGH!
>>568143991How do you like your AOEslop parryslop?
bro drifter sucks so hard in this metahe can't urn brool
the silver lining to the urn is that the backlash might be severe enough that they rework rejuv too
>>568141941You should see Hunt: Showdown. They're like the kings of fucking up things. Hell, they even try to hide some of the balance changes. Deadlock is directionless for sure, but Hunt has(had) a clear identity that they then chose to destroy and attempt to rebuild. If Deadlock is a stillborn child, Hunt is a murder-suicide.
does it matter if its a light melee or a heavy melee for hitting urn? if so, whats the difference?
>>568144276Hunt is doing good now no? haven't played in a couple of months but iirc they have mostly fixed a lot of the retarded shit that came with the UI redesign.
>>568144356for picking it up, no. you can just light melee. for stealing the deposit, it's heavy melee only
>game before urn changeobjectiveslop>game after urn changeaoeslop>game after the next urn changemechanicslop>game after the next updatecontentslop
>>568144276>they even try to hide some of the balance changes.helldivers 2 also does this
>>568142480Nooo you don't understand I have to get some tournies under my belt in a closed alpha game so I can become an esports all-star!!!
>>568113556Make it so if the urn enters your base and you're not at advantage it fucking explodes on you for 3k damage MINIMUM
>>568144563it's just prep work, bro. these pro players are most likely on some big org's list already just waiting for deadlock to be released officially in 2 years.
>>568119774Most "pros" have no clue what they're talking about and got carried to Eternus off the backs of metaslaving. If there was a rank reset I doubt half those retards could make it out of Archon.
>>568144374Hunt is only doing good because most of Hunt's core players have played it long enough to not mindlessly chase the meta and occasionally try to have fun. The game is still overrun with chinese hackers and Russian wallbangers and each match will have one or both. A lot of the lobby runs only the most optimal loadout and the servers are dogshit, but Hunt has a playerbase of people who only play Hunt and make it occasionally worth playing. I still see the same people and usernames from 5 years ago between the sea of .ttv's
>>568144897When the game officially releases a majority of these "pros" will be replaced within a years time. They'll be used to coach the better younger talent before becoming a coach.
>>5681442766 star hunt is an unfun nightmare because every single fucking match becomes a 30 minute stalemate between a shotgun team waiting indoors too scared to peek out and a mosin team outdoors too scared to push in
>>568141941This game has not received a SINGLE good sensible patch.Not one.There hasn't been a single patch where the majority said "yeah this is pretty good".How many atrocious changes do you people need to go through before you realize these developers are retarded, lazy and overpaid?
>Every patch makes the game worse and worseWhat gamedev strategy is this called
>>568145361prompt engineer vibe coding
>>568145361western devs
>>568145361No idea who took over from that big March patch onward. Probably some guy at the company who REALLY loves Street Brawl.Actually, I unironically think that they released Street Brawl, saw it's super popular, and are now trying to make the main game mode more like Street Brawl.But even retarded Riot who have League which has ARAM as way more popular than the main mode understood not to fuck up the main mode and just leave it as is.It's incredibly disheartening.
>>568097620In 2 days of this patch i think i've seen one apollo in enmy team and he went 0-13
>>568145727No, this is just icefrog being a washed up retard.He did the same shit in dota and it's one of the main reasons why it went to shit and only peruvians/chinks play it nowadays.He loves to force 24/7 BROOOLING
Billy is fun to play but HOLY FUCK he is bad
this meta just punishes bad macro too much if your team doesnt put enough prio on the lane urn spawns in while keeping decent prio on blue you losewhenever my blue laners over-roam and give up blue guardian early and the enemy team's guardian is still up for urn we lose the game
>>568145361they are just throwing shit at the wall to see what sticksthe game as it was was clearly lacking something
>>568129795the game is being used to train AI, probably grok. the AI is extremely incompetent so it needs to have handlers constantly monitoring it and the solo lane can't exist because the bots would lose every time and wouldn't learn anything. this recent change to the urn is also to benefit the bots since they couldn't understand how to run it properly and camping with it would completely break them. you can very easily see the bots for yourself if you're in oracle+ literally just watch you teammates it's so obvious. pic rel is elon emailing gabe
>>568145937if you're a sidelaner just rotate mid at 8 minutes and start demolishing their guardian so you can prep for urn
>>568145948Anon this is the third time they place urn in the middle after being changed to the side lanes.And this is like the fourth time kelvin ice dome ruins objectives.And like the fifth time mobility + urn breaks the mechanic.All this shit happened before so why are these double nigger faggot devs going through the same motions?They're just retarded niggers.
>>568145727>>568145948The secret private playtest lost all the eternus players because they were the retards that leaked everything last year LMAO
>>568145948It needed another mid-game objective. Hell it was leaked they were working on one but all the internal testers hated it any they scrapped it. So instead of just trying something new again they seem intent on using the urn as the sole objective that you fight over every 5 fucking minutes.Urn spawns way too much. It needs to spawn half the time and there needs to be another objective. That fucking simple.
>>568145917Billy is great this patch
>>568146160?This is the second time the urn moved mid.
>>568144272I've been thinking the same thing. I dunno how people convinced themselves urn fights aren't giga aids trash, but now that urn is basically the same thing but every 5 minutes it seems like people are forced to admit how dogshit rejuv fights are.
Why is there even a closed experimental server anyway? I thought we were the testers since it's a closed alpha.
>>568146352The urn STARTED as a deposit in mid.Then moved to sides.Then mid again for a micro patch.Then again and now.
>>568146419Because players are complete faggots and can't handle when Yoshit plays fast and loose with the game.See this weekend.
>>568146419read through this threadpeople are treating the game as a released game making bad decisions every patch rather than a pre-beta that makes sweeping changes to test shit out
>>568146221>>568146419It wasn't internal testers it was the retarded fucking streamers, they gave invite to the biggest "personalities" and people in eternus.Those are the people giving them direct feedback.If you think a change is retarded and you wonder why the patches seem even worse recently that's why.
>>568145903Icefrog hasn't been the main dev of dota since 7.00 and onwards. That was in 2016, 10 years ago.
>>568146419because the existing playerbase doesnt treat it like a playtest
>>568146570but they already made these fucking mistakeswhat the fuck are we testing?
>>568145917>>568146241Literally all you have to do as Billy is not feed in lane and you become a tanky mothafucka that can stand on mid bridge parrying people and yanking them off the urn
I think Valve understands that people like suffering. They crave abuse. People want to be angry. You see people with 11k hours in Dota saying they regret everything as they queue for another, to say nothing of things like WoW addicts bemoaning another bad expansion or Siege players talking about how every match is a favela of misery. To this end, each Deadlock patch is not designed to better the game, but designed to better its ability to frustrate. You can see that despite the playerbase being angrier and angrier with vitriol towards every ounce of playtime the playerbase never drops to catastrophic levels. You don't see funny interactions or friendly faces because they have been conditioned into maniacs seeking to make the match miserable for their opponents as revenge for their own suffering. Look at the tone of posts in /dlg/ as an average and see the raw hate. That keeps people coming back. It's like an angry addict
>>568146771The king of the hill mechanic and the silly resistance comeback
these so called inner play testers in the super duper secret alpha branch with them all being eternus streamer faggots ruining the game for everyone
>>568146771testing the new post-ognb playerbase consisting of marvel rivals tourists' reactions to the change
The secret club playtesters arent eternus you idiotsThey all got kicked out because they kept leaking shit
>>568146848Never attribute plain retardation and incompetence as part of a big conspiracy.
SCREAM IF YOU LOVE URN!!!!!!!!
>>568146848This post made me laugh. Thanks anon.
>>568147102conspiracies can be retarded and full of incompetency too
>>568147102Nah Valve definitely has contempt for their playerbase.
>>568146771uhall the new urn mechanicsnot pretending this is old hat because there's one (1) singular thing in common from an iteration of old urn mechanics
>>568147228what fucking new mechanics?all this shit has been tried before from mobility/not silencing to mid urn to parry/melee for objectivesthis isn't fucking week 1 of release we know why shit works and why doesnt
This is just Icefraud doing rent lowering gunshots.Even Dota had patches that solely existed to torture the playerbase for a while.
I wish Gabe was still at Valve, he wouldn't let them get away with this shit
Worst than the March 6 patch
DESU the new urn mechanic would be a kino game mode where players fight over and deliver urns that spawn across the mapimagine picking on up in the sewer then having to carry it to a rooftop.
Street brawl is so much better than normal mode
>Puts Graves ult on mid bridge>Echo sharts skulls and heroic auras themFuck you gon do bout it?
>>568147745>shoot once into the skulls with ricochet
What character can you not stand? For me its Wraith, I have no idea how that character hasn't been nerfed yet when she carries almost every game i've seen her in
>Valve's top secret internal playtesters
>>568147827Wraith is genuinely such a bullshit character purely because of the teleport
>>568147848was that really his name
>>568147941https://combineoverwiki.net/wiki/Greg_Coomer
>>568147346see this is why i can take you people seriouslyyou're the type of retard to go hurr hurr warden is just better venator
>>568147827lashretarded nigger characrer with a retarded gun that's also insanely mobile has insane damage and also has CC and a game winning ult
>>568147827HazeCurse + ult has literally zero counterplay
>>568148078Answer the fucking questionThe only "new" mechanic is the punch time change shit but none of that requires ANY of the atrocious choices like making the urn not silence or placing it mid or making it heavy melee only
>>568147228the only new mechanic is having to melee the urn to grab it and being able to have it change sides while channeling for soul delivery which is such a fucking hilariously broken concept there's no fucking way they don't reverse it by next patch. even on paper it sounds ridiculous. every other change has been applied before. what is there to test?
>>568146848this is why seekerGAWDS are always winningthey're nihilists who exist in an abyssal pit, unburdened by the desire and hubris of winning or rankonly when you have shorn yourself of man's vanity can you ascend to a higher state of beingthe only way up is downjoin us in the muck
I'm surprised people are seething this much.Like if there's a patch I hate, I just post feedback on the forum, and then stop playing for a while. Even better now because I can at least play a Street Brawl or two everyday. Back in 2025 and later 2024 you had to completely suck it up.Just take a break breh.
>>568148191Can't do much with the sidelanes abandoned though
>>568148504reddit coded post
Just picked Ivy.
>>568148504>Back in 2025 and later 2024 you had to completely suck it upthey were not dropping patches this bad back then. the new devs actually gotta go
Abrams.....
>>568148672Summer skins when???
>get legendary>shadow strike>reroll>electric slippers
>>568147827Graves for her bullshit stun and autoaim gunVindicta for being an annoying sniping cuntMcGuiness is annoying but not the worstGraves again
>>568148213>>568148224>the only new mechanic is changing the urn from something you dunk to something you capturewow that sounds like it just might massively change the shape of urn fightsyeah why test that honestly, old urn gameplay was so good
>>568147102nah usually the conspiracy is more complicated than you first think. it's not that they want to make you miserable with these patches cause that makes no sense, but there is a lot of complicated shit going on behind the scenes that is leading to these terrible decisions and it's worth analyzing so we can see if there's anything we can do about it. just saying oh the patch is bad because the devs are retarded accomplishes nothing and even though the other anon isn't right either at least he's trying to figure it out
>>568148565Retarded faggot-coded post. You don't need to be a lab rat bro.>>568148653They absolutely were lmao.Back when we had 4 lanes every fucking week was some new dogshit econ patch because they couldn't figure out how the soul macro played out.
>>568145000yet they are the highest rank and you are oracle
>>568149240>everyone who dislikes a new patch just goes radio silent and stops playing>the remaining players are people who like the new patchwhat happens to the game if this keeps happening you dumb nigger
Just watched a Rem on my team running away from a miku and paradox chasing him and instead of going to hide in the sewers he ran back outside into the miku's waiting armsI hate Remfags
>>568148672>that anatomy
>>568149319>he hasnt had Yoshi like his feedback post on the forum after they released a dogshit patchNGMI
>>568145965>soon you'll be living in a world where you won't know what interaction is human or AI>the barrier to break this would be somehow saying a slur to each other>but this will also flag you in a system as a problem personlovely.
>>568149240this urn patch is straight up one of the worst patches ever after the last 2 patches were also dogshit. the stuff you're talking about was not nearly as bad and it's mega cope that people are just whinier now. the reason why this patch is making so many people seethe is because no matter what character you play or who you play against every game you have to deal with this dogshit
THEY DO LOTS OF BULLSHIT
>>568149654This patch has a number of shitty changes included too
>>568141762dota 2 had alot of it's balance input from pros too
>>568149335if you're in combat the rem hidey-holes get blocked by a magic fence
the mid AOE slopfest reminds me of indians bathing in the shit-filled ganges river
>>568149876He hadn't taken damage for like 10 seconds, he broke los going into the subway area
>graves went from being one of the worst heroes in the game to being overpowered in one patch that just makes the skulls better at following enemies aroundThe absolute mindrape of the entire community that this fucking character does is a sight to behold. The weird thing is the game is a moba hybrid, there's a ton of heroes that barely have to aim to get value, something about Graves uniquely pisses everyone off.
>>568149469>25 forum posts>0 view on all of them
>>568146608Almost no streamers or eternus players have access to the internal playtest. The games are legitimately seeker level.
so now deadlock is officially dead, what are we playing?
>>568150041people like to lock in on the action elements and get really mad when they get rpg-checked. the fact that graves is pretty much impossible to skillcheck if she's within 5k of you destroys people mentally. they keep nerfing her gun because it's actually the most broken shit in the game
>>568150180How do you know that
>>568150212how long until it's officially locked as well
>>568150180i do not believe this, all the patches reek of "pro" player ego stench
>>568150041so are you implying she was op before the patch or that she's not op right now because the urn changes benefit her a lot too and her winrate has already shot up drastically since the patch
>Graves gun pisses people off because le autoaim>Graves Simmons pisses people off because you're letting summons play the game for youThe community just hates the existence of this character I swear
>>568150601You're delusional. 99% of the pros think the game is shit and every patch is terrible.
>>568150601>thread spams day in day out about eternus movement trannies or whatever>patch nerfed movement heroes, made walljumps regen stamina slower in combat, made the hitboxes of movement heroes larger too>every pro player is screeching about how much they hate the urn>IT REEKS OF PRO PLAYER STENCHmakes so much sense if you dont think about it at all desu
>>568150707they can be in the playtest while also saying the game is shit and every patch is terrible. in fact this would benefit them because the devs might give up and start giving them even more control over the balance
>>568150601If Valve listened to the pros basically all the giant AoE abilities would be removed, most abilities would be skill shots and ultimates would have way longer cooldowns. Valve is going in the exact opposite direction.
>>568150850>If Valve listened to the pros basically all the giant AoE abilities would be removedthis lines up perfectly with the incomprehensible change to haze's ult
>>568150401It's full of stat checks and most patches have several heroes dominating the meta that barely have to aim. I'd guess it's partially just because she's so popular on top of being a walking no-aim stat check.>>568150641As a part-time gravesfag (5th or 6th most played), imo she was overall fine before in terms of winrate (50-52 in lower elos, sub 50 in eternus) but didn't always feel great to play due to a terrible lane phase and her summon AI being inconsistent/borderline broken. This patch improving her skulls and lane phase is very welcome but maybe her summon damage scaling could be toned down a bit in response. It's hard to say since the urn changes favor her so much. I definitely wouldn't call her OP right now unlike, say, Yamato which I can safely say got overtuned regardless of the urn changes.
https://deadlock.wiki/images/8/8c/Necro_use_power3_10.ogggraves rape
>>568150652well yeah? shes a shit hero design
>>568151483graves/rem exists so women can play deadlock with their boyfriends
i remember seeing a rumor that the players in the experimental branch thought celeste was weak and her ult was weak before she released so i dont believe that there are many pro players in it
>>568151648rem is for shotacons, youre thinking of paige
>>568150850This patch was made for shitters. There's no reason for the Yamato and McGinnis buffs
name a worse hero and I'll eat my hat
explain this shota cunts
>Reddit cries comeback urns are impossible now>Pros suicide into walkers because 50% resistance is an insane number
>>568152282they do lots of things
>>568152235I once got solo'd by her in a really bad game where we were all behind MASSIVELY and I straight up considered suicide after that
I think Dota needs an urn.
>>568151714I still think the test branch "pros" are a bunch of OW babs who just want brooling and guns
>>568150041Ignore the zombie buff
>buff venator>change the game to make him unplayable badwhat the actual fuck he's so ass this patch
Pretty funny how they need to make GT and Yamato giga broken to get people to pick them meanwhile they just give Graves a tiny buff and people are flocking to her. Probably 80% of the players in this game play based on design alone.
>>568152283Two different circumstances. Pros are inting to avoid the comeback mechanics from proccing when soul leads are only like 10k and nobody can afford shred yet. If the enemy is 30k ahead 25 mins into the match, you are not winning that comeback urn just because of some increased damage resist. The soul lead is too great and people have too many items that shred by that point. That's what people on ladder are whining about.
>>568150180Icefrog literally balances around pro play.
>>568152491love when the game drafts them both in the same team. yeah I love getting nuked every 1 second for 1/3rd of my health haha!
>>568152469I will ignore the zombie buff because it just improves her laning phase which was bottom 3 anyway. I promise you her winrate didn't jump like 8% because she can spawn a ghoul in lane every 34 seconds.
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Any high MMR mina players here?I'm archon, 58%wr. Can't get past Archon 4, since losing streaks always land me back to emissary 6. Any tips?I keep going for impossible plays for that sweet dopamine release when it works out and then there was macro aspect before the patch which i couldn't nail down. Games always went well if i could get enough farm early and snowball but I also had many games where I just couldnt get any farm, getting baited into mid fights or not fighting when I should.I must be retarded cuz im at 500 games already, starting at initiate 1, and i see people with half the number of my games constantly in my lobbies. Is mina really that hard to climb with despite my winrate? Would i have much easier time with other heros? Or am I just shit at this game?
>>568152554>you are not winning that comeback urn just because of some increased damage resistYes you are. 50% is absurd.
>>568152789>MinaYou don't deserve to win.
IF THEY DON'T NERF YAMATO IN THE GROUND IM GOING TO EAT MY OWN FEET AT THIS FUCKING RATE.WHEN ARE THEY REMOVING THAT RETARDED HOOK ABILITY, HER ENTIRE KIT IS LITERALLY DESIGNED TO BE AS FOOLPROOF AS POSSIBLE FOR THE MOST MENTALLY DISABLED PEOPLE>WOOPS YOU'RE OUT OF POSITION? HERE'S THE BEST MOBILITY/CHASE SKILL IN THE GAME + CHARGES>YOU DON'T LIKE BUYING DEFENSIVE ITEMS OR HATE POSITIONING PROPERLY? NO WORRIES YOU CANT BE CCD/DEBUFFED OR KILLED DURING YOUR ULT + YOU'RE ALSO IMMUNE DURING THE CHANNEL>LOW HP? DW YOU GOT A % BASED HEAL
>>568152908I play her just to spite people like you. Every time you cry about dying to mina i smile
>>568150652There's no difference between summons doing damage for you and aoeslop hitting everything on the screen for you.
>>568153018hurry up and press 4 already
>>568152779deadhead echoshard deadhead heroic aura's you
>>568152919なら、死ね
>>568152779But Anon, how will braindead retards play the game if Graves isn't there?
>>56815279550% is conditionally useful. If your team comp is bad, it won't help if you just get CC'd off of the urn. If they have 3 rejuvs, it won't help you. If they have a 30k+ soul lead, it won't help you. If they're up 2, it won't help you. Ladder games are a lot more chaotic than these "pro" games, it's not a matter of skill but a matter of organization. The fact alone that they can draft their teams to ensure both teams have fairly equal urn contest invalidates any argument about what "pros" are doing on this patch. And for that matter, they're just experimenting. Inting to avoid comeback mechanics from kicking in may or may not actually be a good idea, just like rushing monster rounds and doing midboss 1 minute in. They're just trying shit out.
>>568144116>mcginnis not putting turrets down or even wall>rem not using his pillow and staying backdeserved the L ngl
>people genuinely think valve is gonna back off the mid urn bullshit when urn has been a mid objective more often than notget used to brooling boys
>>568152779>t.skull VICTIMHow do you like the taste of that necrodick BITCH
>>568152282>healbane, rescue beam, divine barrier, healing tempo, cooldown, buffed #2what's the issue?
>>568152919>best mobility skill in the game>literally just launches you into the enemy team
>>568153018Knockdown's youPhantom Strike's youCursed Relic's you
I think we can all agree.
>>568153491Or I could just stop playing Deadlock
>>568152235>does insane damage in lane>falls off a cliff unless you get ahead and get away with building shit like boundless + tankbuster>relegated to be played by retards that just spam barrier even though she has one of the highest damage potential caster kits that's not just victor painbattery spam and lash getting a 6man groundstrike from the top of the map
>>568153651Just be better lmao
>>568153567your brain, retard off topic coomer
>>568112192>He's basically replaced silver in prioNo... I don't understand...How could S+lver be so easily replaced...? That just doesn't make sense, she's gamebreaking...
>>568153651Move Pocket and Apollo into the faggot zone and I will agree
>>568153651i'm seeker btw
>>568149000getting tilted by a vin is a low iq issue
>Holliday is such a shit character man oh it's so hard playing her>Slight gun buff>Holliday every gameGod am I happy for never drinking the koolaid that was "Holliday is a shit character"
So what's the build order on Graves now?
>>568153558>Victor with graves' beam + spirit resistance stealthink about it
>>568153875Holiday was always downplayed
>>568153928Just netdeck Nahoo's build, it's what all the other bandwagoners are doing.
>>568153875She's good if you can aim and have even a sliver of skill in motion prediction
I would wait in a queue for 30 minutes if it guaranteed I wasn't in a match with a Graves player on my team or on the enemy team.
Did they do something to Hollidays lasso? Several times today its disconnected after landing it.
>>568154153>people finally becoming aware holliday is OP>IMMEDIATELY someone tries to discourage her from being played by going "uuhhhmmm is she bugged? her ult's not working..."noticing
I have no respect for you as a person if you play Graves, Celeste, or Mina.
>me (graves) lash and victor alive>everyone else dead>enemy alive and 40k+ ahead>they are doing urn>fuck it lets go urn>victor ungabungas at urn, parries 3 melees but dies>throw my shit and root most of them>lash ults everyone>massive damage from victor ult + lash combo + skull rape>lash has refresher>team wipe>we wini need to draw graves and victor fucking
>>568153928Max 1, 2, 4, 3Echo shard on 1 and heroic auraAdd greens of your choice
>>568154397It was an honest question she is my favourite character and has been since I started play.
>>568153651This but unironically>it's another "Celeste presses 4 and wins" teamfight
Playing calico is suffering this patch, to eke out any sort of damage combo I now have to 1 (delay) 2, 4, 1 (delay) 2, melee.
for weeks I shitposted about the inferiority of NA deadlocknow I will shitpost about the inferiority of EU deadlockI am the puppet master.
>>568154886t. trans victor player
>>568154630>playing the wokeslop negressdeserved
>>568154886You're correct both ways and also I don't care
>>568154630now you know 1% of my pain as an abrams main...
>>568154945Fuck off, yellow feveroid>>568155018Abrams has, for as long as I have played Deadlock (since March 16th) had at least a 1% winrate gap over Calico. he's literally been Calico+ the entire time I've played.
>>568153651>ivy haze victor seven silverKys
>>568154153stop posting this image it makes me crave horse cock
I'm just doing brool this patch because standard is also now brool but with laning.
Ivy's ass is huge
>>568155627I will not. Celeste will be milked.
>>568155759and so is her heart
Had a dream last night that Ivy was my futa girlfriend and I was fucking herAfterwards we held hands
it feels weird seeing gun graves doing more spirit damage than spirit geist. Is spirit geist even a thing now? Because I feel weak with her lately. Also when is it a good time to start farming t3 jungle creeps?
>>568155894that is not healthy
>>568155961jealous
>>568122632yetthey will get some sort of interaction
>the game lacks variety in the midgame, it's nothing but stale objectives between urns>OK here's the same objective over and over in the same part of the map>We'd love to hear you call this retarded shit retarded! Your input lets us know what we can change about this never working, and we'll definitely not drop this once it proves unworkable like the fourth lane.
>>568152282Most of his build is about healing, of course he topped it by far.
>>568155963I dont even know if I like spirit graves more or gun graves.a choice between minions for days and massive area denial or more efficient farming and a gun that melts in teamfights at touch of split shot
Where Reiko at though I'm trying to queue
>>568155759>>568155894both of these true statements
>>568155759Verdadero
>>568144116brool kino
>>568155462The only one I agree with is Haze.If you can't deal with Ivy, Victor, Seven, or Silver you may want to just git gud
>>568156537>MinaYou don't need to aim. You need to press 4
Hey guys. I'm Threadnigger.
I'm female to male trans and I onetrick Victor
>>568156840NO! I'M THE REAL THREADNIGGER, SHOOT HIM!
>>568154153Debuff resist decreases lasso duration
There would be more eternus players in the secret playtest if they werent all complete mouthbreathers that leaked shit and got kicked out
>>568156840nuh uh
>>568156214It seems pointless to go spirit graves when the spirit damage is already decent. The spirit scaling has been nerfed also so less reason to do that I suppose.
>>568156962Wait is this true.
>>568157242yes
>>568157242>>568157313Deathy was the original fuck up. But his fuck up emboldened the others to leak as well.And the entire leakcuck shitfest late last year pissed Valve off so much that they purged everyone and started over.There's a reason we don't get leaks anymore.
>>568157171yeah but nothing beats the feeling of using echo shard to throw 10 skulls on some helpless sap and hitting heroic aura like crimson king activating bite the dust
>>568156928What to a 0.5 second duration after landing it? Doesn't sound right.
>>568157538>And the entire leakcuck shitfest late last year pissed Valve off so much that they purged everyone and started over.>There's a reason we don't get leaks anymore.good lmao
Can the sexy tranny get a "METRO OWNED" tattoo above their clit?
Sex with Silver until she Squirts all over me
>>568154939>>568156898what is this meme
>>568157852Celeste...
>>568153651>gun drifter>haze>gun paradox>seven>gun ivy>gun victor>warden>venator>fair and honest>wraith>not in faggot zone>gun geist>not in faggot zone>gun pocket>not in faggot zone
>>568157802I recently saw a video of him getting absolutely ass blasted because he was losing to some guy called chicken andrew or something and proceeded to report his own team for griefing.
Rem's healing is actually extremely busted now. Just had a Rem pocket me as Shiv and I was basically immortal with bloodletting rage and his heal. I only had 4.8k green with me too so it's not like I was stacking resists, he's just simply outhealing my bloodletting.
>>568157873Not a meme all us trans girlies are Victor one tricks.
How much longer til the hotfix...
>>568157662Either you're talking about indomitable which disables your ult not even allowing to land or debuff resist>What to a 0.5 second duration after landing it?Victor and dyanmo can get a free 50% debuff resistant from their abilities, items like frenzy give 40% debuff resistance.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ESB3YF1x9I0&t=942s
>>568158463Tuesday. Valve has memorial day off
I know he fits the urnBROOL meta of the patch right now but I'm still mindfucked by Billy's S1 being parryable
>>568158601Bashdown isn't parryable, unless they changed it and i didn't see
I wonder if theyll keep the mechanic of the new urn but just move it the old locationsMaybe nerf the resistances?
wtf is the point of mina existing after 15 min
>>568158875To be a cocksleeve
>>568158601You can't parry it.Billy just always spams light melee so sometimes it looks like you did.
>>568158875
>>568158875>muh heakin minaShe has inherent debuff resist, her ult without stacks does ~35% current health damage on top of the silence and magic damage, she has 3 I-frame 360 degree dashes on a low cooldown and you're gonna sit here and pretend this whore is not OP?
>>568158215they killed healslut ivy just to inflict us with healslut remwhat were they thinking
>>568159380>She has inherent debuff resistMight wanna read the patch notes again.
>>568159576theres a serious reading comprehension problem with people and patch notespeople saw the "rebuttal reduces parry cooldown by -1.75 instead of -2" and thought it was a buff
remove parries, they are cheats
>>568159576>-8%>>>>----(minus)shit my bad, still i think the nerfs were deserved
>WAAAH WAAAH MUH COMPETITIVE INTEGRITY IN AN ALPHA PLAYTESTDeadlock players are actual cattle.
I wonder if the new urn actually made people just sit in lane more instead of fighting more, before the change how many times you left lane to try to contest urn because you could actually get there in time, how many times you stayed in lane to try and take a walkerafter the update how many times you didn't even bother moving because it's too late or they have a kelvin, or you couldn't leave because they didn't leave either and they'd just take your walker if they saw you going for the first 2 urns
>>568160042ummm post it
@568159840I don't understand the point of this post other than to fish for [why oh ewe]s. therefore I have replaced the correct mathematics symbol used to "quote" a previous post with the @ symbol, as to not reward your post with what you seek.
>>568160042>how many times you left lane to try to contest urn because you could actually get there in time, how many times you stayed in lane to try and take a walkermost of the time because i didn't learn how to bug abuse the movement. new urn is good because players can actually play urn
>>568160042I want to see Ivy drink an entire urn of cum and belch really loud haha
>>568160042the only time I have issues showing up for the urn fight is when I'm on the team that's behind since the other team is smart enough to shove waves and smash our blue walker first, etc. basically they purposely set up a bunch of distractions first
I despise Warden. I despise his cage silencing and I despise his flash taking stamina and I despise his Tom of Finland moustache
>>568160360Ivy is not an indiscriminate whore she's for intimate handholding Christian sex with warm cuddles afterwards
Can they just add another objective alreadyNone of this would be a problem if they added another one to tweak
>>568160554Are you doubting her cum drinking skills >:O
>>568160554>>568160360Furries are gross
>>568160716But she's made of stoneShe can't be furry, only m-mossy!~
>>568160604it would still be a problem if the new thing they added was trash but yeah even that would definitely be better than basically taking out the urn that worked and replacing it with something shit that barely works
Fuck Venator this patchI'm turnin to da dark side
>>568160280the thing I dislike most about this new urn is that they decided to add it bugged with people using kelvin doorman and sinclair to cheese it on top of making heros that'd be good for it stronger like yamatoso what data is yoshi even getting out of this shitfest, or he's just getting off of raising everyone's cortisol>>568160484yeah for the most part you either have a zipline to it or can take the straight corridor from side so getting there is easy but it confirms so fast, I tried getting there while it was in transit in my first two or 3 games but unless you're already there when they deposit it you're too late for a neutral, and then you don't have time to do much if you don't leave either
>>568160716>>568160832Both wrong, she's obviously scalieShe's got lizardlike features because that's what her form was based onShe used to be stone, now she's flesh
>>568160604why? so the community can ignore it like they ignore camps because some kike streamer told them it was the meta?
Urn should be every 10 minutes. Game fixed.
>>568161048>>568161048>>568161048>>568161048
>>568160904the old urn mechanic didn't work though, assuming they aren't lying about the urn being a comeback mechanic. the new urn mechanic sucks but at least it somewhat works now as its stated intention.
>>568161336a post so dumb it can only be made by a deadlock developer or balance consultant
>>568150652Yes?
>>568156681her 4 does no damage this patch and is last ability you invest in, Uf you die to it that's entirely on you. Fucking pisslow retard
