It's Not an X, It's an EditionLast Thread: >>567240084>Read First: https://i.imgur.com/lwWTTp9.png>PSA: https://rentry.org/AntiwhineMkIII | https://rentry.org/shillfilter▶Cloud Serviceshttps://featherless.aihttps://novelai.nethttps://openrouter.ai▶Frontendshttps://koboldai.org/cpphttps://sillytavern.apphttps://gitgud.io/mir/storypad-qthttps://github.com/lmg-anon/mikupad▶Additional Information>Chat Format: >>>/vg/aicg>Local Models — e.g. Command R, Mistral, Qwen: >>>/g/lmg▶Game(s)https://store.steampowered.com/app/1889620▶Tools & ResourcesWiki: https://aids.miraheze.orgPrompts: https://prompts.forthisfeel.club/Scripts: https://naiscriptvault.com/NAI Guide Collection: https://rentry.org/guide-collectionOther/Historical: https://rentry.org/aids-misceIIany>AID: https://rentry.org/remember-what-they-took-from-you▶/aids/ EventsThemed Prompts: https://aids.miraheze.org/wiki/Theme_Fridays>Theme Fridays have transformed into Theme Months!>Write for May's theme, Isolation! >>565826615▶Model News>(04/24) DeepSeek releases V4: https://api-docs.deepseek.com/news/news260424>(03/31) NAI releases Xialong: https://blog.novelai.net/welcome-novelais-newest-writing-model-xialong-ecde7d21d111>(02/23) NAI updated its Canvas: https://blog.novelai.net/image-generation-canvas-update-new-tools-better-performance-and-3d-support-cbbc54c1d89d>(02/12) Z.AI releases GLM-5: https://z.ai/blog/glm-5>(02/05) Anthropic releases Claude Opus 4.6: https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-4–6▶Thread News>(03/07) Anon updates his frontend: >>559652987 https://files.catbox.moe/930fvy.html>(02/05) Emacs Update: https://files.catbox.moe/6r6wxg.el>(01/16) Anon makes a Mikupad Screenshot Scripthttps://github.com/LordFoogThe4rd/mikupad-screenshot>(11/17) Anon makes a Mikupad Guidehttps://rentry.org/MikupadIntroGuide
>>568278478Repeating this.I think we should update some links. For one, Storypad-QT no longer exists. Replacing it with Marinara, a neat project with agentic use cases for roleplay (text adventure style stuff), chat, and writing would, along with updating the news like that one guy suggested, would be nice for next thread.https://github.com/Pasta-Devs/Marinara-Engine
>>568279283yeah sorry I was in a bit of a hurry
>like that one guy suggestedCorrection, guy who shilled it on other boards and got nothing so he had to come herehttps://arch.b4k.dev/_/search/boards/v.vg/text/marinara/https://desuarchive.org/g/search/text/marinara/
Shilling my frontend. Please use my frontend. Thankhttps://github.com/LordFoogThe4rd/mikupad-refactored
>>568286140Can I also use your backend?
>>568286229If you’re a futanari, sure.
>>568286461It was just a formality. You don't get a choice.
Marinara is a decent front-end and anyone who thinks that having more front-ends to choose from is a bad thing needs to get their head checked.
Is there something screwy going on for anyone else with imagegen?I keep getting black thumbnails for the image history and I can't edit the image I'm genning since it shows up blank in the editor.
>>568279283>>568287256Sir, changing the OP is sacrilege. We are not to touch what the ancients left us.
>>568287742This is revisionism. Throughout the history of the thread the OP has been updated several times. It's been over five years since this community got booted to this general.
>>568287935Six years since our ancestral home was denied to us...OP can be updated, sure (since it still has fucking C-R in it). Like changing that to Gemma or something. Or updating the outdated mikupad with a modern fork >>568286140Other than that, it's clear to everyone you just wanna see your epic new zoomerware featured there.Overall it's not like the hobby changed in the past ~2 years significantly enough to warrant some radical changes besides better smarter slopper models getting pushed out.
>>568287713Just tried, works on desktop and mobile. Refresh session?
>>568289280Yeah. I may just have to restart my browser, which is annoying but manageable.
>>568288753If Marinara Engine is Zoomerware, so is AI Rouguelike and Mikupad. You just hate that something else is getting attention. I hope a drone drops by your shitty hovel later today.
think they meant zoomerware as in 'user friendly' bloatware for people who don't usually engage in the hobby. what does new frontend achieve for anons already using ST or miku? do we need a built-in assistant to tell us what prefills/presets/cards are or how to set up an api?
me on the left
>>568291437A built-in text adventure format and agentic functionality.
What's new in the hood my niggas?
Other general doesn't have it on their op either. I took a look-see and it seems more tailored for their usecases if anything tbdesu
>>568291780Agents waste too many tokens for meI'm stingy
Any system prompts?
Why is the Turkish stallion tweeting so much about politics lately?did smth happen in Turkey?
why don't schizos ever link what they're schizoing about
>revising a story imported into obsidian>3 chapters, 20k words>spend over 4 hours editing, formatting, trimming>not even through half of itOk never doing that again holy shit. But rewriting some fun GLM quirks that were hard to notice on first pass was a fun exercise: over-substitution of 'their' for known characters, dialogue tag padding and lots of conjunction omission in strange places.Once I started, I just saw them forever
>>568297236Coward. You should be doing MORE of that. Hop on the wordlbuilding train and let yourself have FUN.
>>568297651No, anon, no!I jest about never, but this thing is getting quite chunky.
>>568299418That's child's play. Do it more. Commit to it. Trust me, you'll have fun. Don't let anyone talk you out of writing ten thousand words on a new story. That hundred thousand will be the best million you ever wrote.
>>568299916Some of my more self-indulgent ones are that long, but that's without trimming out the fat.This one's a smaller character study but it'll get there eventually.
>>568301280Wanna know a secret? I haven't even gotten to the smut yet. This burn is slower than the average rom-com harem anime.
>>568301280Based.
>>568301769>This burn is slower than the average rom-com harem animeAnon making a slow cooked juicy pot roast
>>568302319Without lore it's just people fucking each other. It's nothing special. But when you know WHY people are fucking each other and how it all ended this way, now that's where the fun begins.
>>568302319Damn, there's three pages of stories have have that tagHere I was thinking it was a one-off
>>568295636what are you looking for
Felt nostalgic and ended up diving through my /aidg/ screencap folder again.
>>568291437>'user friendly' bloatware for people who don't usually engage in the hobbySo NovelAI then?Anyway, I think the Github description looks interesting and I'll give it a try.
>>568308856A classic
>>568291836same shit, different day my man
https://files.catbox.moe/0idft9.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/lq4rxl.png
>>568325190Holy fuck I'm in love.More.
>>568286140Oh good, someone's actually broken the MP code up into manageable sized chunks. Came to visit just to see what the state of storywriters is and if any updates on MP since the original dev seems to have abandoned it. Always assumed someone would eventually fork it and pick up the work. Here's the MP guide I maintain. Just had to move all the images from catbox (which is dying) to other hosting. I'll add an MP - other links section for forks as I run into them. https://rentry.org/MikupadIntroGuide
>>568310616All you have are non sequiturs.NovelAI isn't 'bloatware' by any stretch of the word. It's fairly minamilistic.
I'm going back to GLM. What can I find some presets?
>>568330196check inside your anus
>>568330196>What can I find
Aren't you glad NovelAI partnered with NVidia?
>>568279283>>568278478Not working: https://gitgud.io/mir/storypad-qtWorking: https://gitgud.io/mir/storypaduhhh... was it always supposed to be as simple as actually using gitgud search function to fix that link in OP?
>>568334021Storypad-QT was a fork that replaced the original, but the dude deleted it quite a long time ago and nobody bothered to replace it.
>>568334829Is the OG storypad worth hassling with? Didn't know QT was just a fork of this thing. OG storypad was last touched 1 year ago.
>>568334962I don't really know, never used them myself.
They just confirmed V5 is coming out early June on discord.
No announcements have been made, jackass. Get a life and fuck off.
>>568279283>Marinara>4/71 security vendors flagged this file as malicious>Crowdsourced Sigma Rules HIGH 1 MEDIUM 2 LOW 1Nice malware LOL
>>568338475You think everything is malware, Russian faggot.
I think my frenulum is too short. It hurts when I pull back my foreskin
>>568338598Shove it down >>568338475's throat, and it and it might feel better. he's due for a throat swabbing anyway.
>>568338573>trying to shill blatant malwareoh my JEEEEEEJ
I've had enough of the habits of current models
Weird how Claudefag hates local apps despite supposedly being a tourist from /eg/.
>>568338786You also think NovelAI, a web app, is "malware". You don't know a damn thing. Where do you get off hating on things you don't use?
>>568339069who the fuck do u think I am? idgaf about novelai you're shilling fucking malware named after pasta sauce you coon
>>568339291Marinara Engine isn't malware., weirdo.
>>568339291You're a habititual shitposter who whines about everything.
>>568339421It is, virustotal said so.
>>568338974He's mad new local apps are coming out while offline-nc is dead.
>>568339513I wonder what that says about your abandoned offline-nc project.
>people make a neat app>whinefag pops a hernia and declares a crusade against itWhy does whinefag skulk about AI threads shitting them up all day, every day?
IM NOT WHINEFAG IM NOT WHINEFAG IM NOT WHINEFAG ITS FUCKING MALWARE NAMED AFTER PASTA SAUCE HOW DO YOU PEOPLE NOT SEE IT?????
Weird how VirusTotal claims you're a liar.
>>568339737Dude is just severely mentally ill.
>>568340087It is very weird.
>>568340030That's not the exe file they have in releases. you are trying to shill malware.
Call me when you make a sex engine app.
We have reached the stage where whinefag repeatedly bleats out a random-ass assertion. So obsessed he is with lying to the high heavens.
I dont think Github would host malware for nearly three montns and allow it to have 89 forks. You just hate it because it has a Discord server.
I mean it's trivial to download the installer and put it into Virustotal to see exactly what the guy is talking about.
>>568342092It's not malware.
It's not that good regardless, but go ahead and make it your main if you like it
>>568342092Weird how seven became four.https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/2590ace018193873a614f2e9cec469cca04fbbdbdbcea5819a05b5951956da07I don't think trusting sites like this is okay. I've uploading Hydrus Network four times, and each time it's given me a different number. I don't think Hydrus Network is malware. I've also tried MikuPad and SillyTavern. It thinks all of them are malware. But sometimes, it doesn't flag any of them as malware.False positives are a thing.
>>568341040Something like Pettangatari but gens animated intimacy scenes
>>568301280my longest smut is 3 scenarios before i just went okay then they banged for 2 weeks on vacation everyday and came back so i can now focus on their victorian era lifestyle where the head chef and maid get concerned their not eating right. pretty fun
Guys, I don't want to install this shit cause it's bloated vibe-coded garbage that's strictly worse than kobold lite and silly, not cause virustotal hallucinated trojans in its code.
>>568345159Had one that was just a perpetual honeymoon in eternity, man they never stop...Another with a reluctant succubus who mans a potion shop that finds 'new and innovative' ways to keep one's inventory stocked.
>>568345487It is better than SillyTavern by far, what are you smoking? I never used Kobold, though.
>>568346247do you break it up into chapters? I should do that passage of time etc.
>>568346556Sort of. It's episodic and filled with vignettes of the characters interspersed between.>I should do that passage of time etc.Like heading chapters with [ Place - Day/Event - Time ] ?
>>568347063yea. sometimes i get stuck in minutia .
AI still can't generate bulges properly, nevermind chastity bulges.
>>568345487I haven't used it but I can't imagine how anything could be worse than sillytavern.
>>568342092its not looking good desu...
>>568356259Hallucinated trojans can't hurt you.
>>568356473But they can get you pregnant.
>>568356259Why did it go from seven, to four, to ten? A different result each attempt muddles the worth of the analysis. I trust my own eyes over what a random website hallucinates.
>>568356473He's got a point though, why are they using an exe instead of a bat file to launch the webui?
>>568356924because each one is a different file. The newest one that anon posted is the exe used to open the webui.
>>568357167Quit trying to pretend like it isn't a single person with a stick up their ass that something that isn't offline-nc is getting attention. Marinara Engine isn't malware. it's just a vibe coded UI. Hop off my dick and quit shitting up the thread with this pointless nonsense.
Bro's going to larp about this for the next several days. Then he'll get bored and spam the thread about some other inane bullshit.
>>568357548maybe it'll abruptly summon imagegen v5
>>568357000That's the funny thing. It comes with a bat. The hallucinating website marks as clean. But it's easier to whine about nonexistent malware.
>>568357759spraying pink fog onto the boy's face
Gee if only there was a way we could have these AI review codebases for vulnerabilities or malicious coding.
>>568362057So, basically nothing as long as you're not running it as a service on the internet.
>>568362247Hope that API code is public knowledge. O well.On to a review of malicious code.
>>568362538And the last one.
>>568352848Ai generates my penis and bulge quite well, skill issue.
>>568357759from their discord.
So much time wasted to whine about nonexistent malware. Get a life and fuck off, weirdo.
>>568363651Why do you love to lie out your ass so much about arbitrary things? Marinara Engine isn't malware. End of discussion. Quit shitting up the thread.
>>568364008>staff member admits to it being a crypto miner>still tries to deny it oh my JEEEEEEEEJ
>>568364220What do you have to say about the security review, larper? It's not malware. Now fuck off.
>>568364220You're a dishonest huckster.
>>568352848the "chastity bulge" tag apparently means a different thing, where it's a bulge labeled with a lock (on e621)i was wondering why it was doing this whilst checking on this for youit's a latex thing, apparently??https://litter.catbox.moe/tbie67ddxzwhs7uv.png
Let's add it to the OP next thread just to see how much he rages.
>>568364220I can also edit screenshots to fabricate information.
But why would I download it in the first place when I already have Silly
>>568364832I prefer it to SillyTavern. For one, SillyTavern is geared toward chatbotting specifically. There is no RPG component. Marinara has RPG Stats built into it and is not geared specifically for chatbotting. Furthermore, agentic functions are game changer.This one is an aesthetic matter, but it also looks nicer imo.
>>568364832I've been casually looking for an agentic RP engine (not storywriter) to replace or use in addition to ST. It's obv such a thing should exist at this point in time. Now that I spent a whole $0.19 in DS V4 API on reviewing the codebase, I guess I should actually fire it up and see how it works.
>(76) new posts>retards still giving attention to something that even the other general ignores for the entire threadcool, new filter
>>568367752Why should anyone give a shit what other generals think? They also ignore NovelAI, AI Rouguelike, and more that are discussed here.Did the Marinara Engine Discord server give you the boot, too? There is no other rational explanation for why you hate it so much.
Not that guy, fucking schizo
>>568368780Take your meds and get a life. Marinara Engine isn't malware.
Do we know anything about nai v5 asides from it existing?
Are people really that foolish as to let a shitposter and a fanboy sour their perception of a front-end before they've even tried it for themselves?
>>568369329We won't know anything until it releases.
>>568369570does that mean they're skipping teasers this time around?
>>568369679How many people actually use the curated model anyway?
>>568370401I think there was a bar graph to similar effect over a year ago but I don't recall it well enough to be able to dig it up, might be buried in their blog somewhere
>>568356259Downloading Offline-NC be like:
>>568357542No one would ever trust Offline-NC in the first place.He recently chimped out in cryllic on /g/ because someone asked him to explain why putting Offline-NC in the thread OP didn't count as shilling when he's supposedly against shilling
>>568375395Rules for thee, not for me. The hypocrisy is what gets me the most about him.
are there any good backends for story-writing using the cloud models? (gpt-5.5, whatever's on openrouter, etc)i've been manually doing all my prompting and sending requests using curli used to use ST for RP but i like story writing more nowadays and doing story-writing in ST always feels like hack shit
>>568364465???why??like, I can see the appeal, but why call it "chastity bulge" it's just a nondescript bulge with an emoji on it
>>568352848it can but it relies heavily on>certain artist tags>inpainting and hoping
>>568325415I think I went a bit overboard.https://catbox.moe/c/3q1an7Thumbnails on Catbox seem to be broken right now but the images do work when opened.
>>568375756You mean frontends. Right? B/c cloud models. Did you read the OP?
>>568379882i dokobold is local, mikupad looks like it's mostly built around completion models so i assume it sucks for the cloud chat models, storypad doesn't exist, sillytavern is sillytavern
>>568381345>storypad doesn't existIt does, though?https://gitgud.io/mir/storypad
>>568381345You're incorrect about MP. I'm not even going to explain. Read here. >>568328716
>>568375756Aside from the ones on OP or mentioned in the thread there is also errata which is newer and has some agentic features.https://github.com/tealios/errataOr just vibe code your own frontend like many anons here for your use cases. For example I wanted a tree structure of the chapter that I can branch and navigate, and support for mobile screen (it still kinda sucks there but less so than the others I've tried)
>>568382952Every vibe coded project is malware.
>>568377161man idfk
How long do you think it will take for the Deepseek discounts to trickle down to providers that don't log?
>>568388913> sharing logs with chineses> sharing logs with companies in your own western countryI ironically would rather log w/ chinese bc they have less incentive to screw w/ me.
>>568389752What part of don't log didn't you read? I only use providers that don't log.
I gladly bias chinese training data with my fetishes.
>>568390297>I do not respect myself, my privacy, or my value my work enough to care if people steal itFixed that for you.
>>568381345You can autocomplete with instruct models. Just try it.
Fuck you anon from a few threads ago for getting me horny for a character from a fucking roblox mascot horror game
do you guys think that cards lose personality as the chat goes on?like, whatever personality they have, they end up as the usual meek pushover I get it that it's because LLMs are trained to be assistants of sort, so it's their default personality to agree with you all the timeis there a way to fix this?
https://files.catbox.moe/u16sco.png
>>568396039Some models, yeah I have noticed that
>>568395821Could be worse I guess
https://files.catbox.moe/m2k39y.png
trigger warning: womenhttps://files.catbox.moe/tjwrk7.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/o5vaqc.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/4woxhu.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/pv2z9s.png
too big
>>568414976no such thinghttps://files.catbox.moe/1fd2rx.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/h4lrge.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/vrliw2.png
>>568396039Models have a habit of distorting character personalities in two main ways. They’ll either push a trait into an extreme caricature of its archetype (a mildly nerdy character suddenly becoming C3PO, endlessly rambling about variables and declaring random things “illegal”) or they turn into weirdly Flanderized, hyper-focused versions of something the character did once or a topic you mentioned in passing.Ironically, smarter modern models seem especially prone to this. They’re so good at pattern matching and “giving the user what they want” that they over apply minor details. Mention a favorite sport once, and suddenly a character who has no connection to it is constantly bringing it up or if they display a little quirk like a eyebrow movment they start treating it like a core part of their identity.I guess it’s a bit ironic. Fiction already has a habit of characters becoming Flanderized as the story goes on. Kind of a weird mets thing that AI is now copying one of the most annoying habits on story telling.
>>568396039>chatWell yeah, more recent models are aggressively trained for things other than chat/rp.Seldom an issue with co-writing in my experience but even then, the weights for newer models tend to output stuff mentioned by >>568420982Couple that with them having so much cruft baked into their sys prompts that are counterintuitive for creative writing. Some providers won't even allow end users to mess with a model's default parameters either.
>>568421985>Some providers won't even allow end users to mess with a model's default parameters either.How is this a bad thing, pedo hacker?
^melty
>>568422940Why do you shill Marinara and NovelAI?
^ts nga melting
>>568423808
>maybe, just maybe, I could-have next wave slopisms fatigue
>>568427850I find myself needing to be careful with adjective choices nowadays. You bet your ass that single 'quiet' in one sentence is bound to insert itself before every abstract noun going forward.>quiet acceptance>quiet promise>quiet confidence>quiet stillness>quiet rage
>>568384906sorry, I didn't mean to sound like i was interrogating you; thanks for the info, tooin hindsight, it kinda makes sense, and is different from "chastity cage bulge" (which I used), but it probably contaminates the other in semantic spaces
>>568429897nah I didn't take it like that, I totally agreeit's just so baffling to me that it's even a thing to begin with
>>568279283This is really good. The standard out of the box settings for the adventure mode are really nice, and it seems customizable for almost anything. It's sort of like what I wished AI Roguelite would have been.
>generate forum posts
>>568435882Okay. How about a Resetera post.
is there a SINGLE fucking gemma4 provider who doesn't 429 rate limit error you every second generation? Fuck I wish I had a 5090 to run it locally
>>568440051use flash
It's getting hot outside.https://files.catbox.moe/thdpkk.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/o8o7vz.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/9cb8kf.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/95fqgi.png
>>568408520How could it be worse?
>>568441161Do you think she would be into anal?
>>568445454The way I see her, absolutely. I bet she gets up to some freaky shit when she gets all hyper after a Mario Kart race or a tennis match or whatever.
seemed to faintly rumble in a low, guttural way
Why is the "game" mode in marinara engine so fucking slow?!!! Goddamn!!! I'm using Gemini flash and this shit takes forever!!
>>568455063Have you tried pinching your nipples really hard to distract yourself until it gens?
>>568455063I imagine Google detects it and gives you really low priority for some reason.
>>568455063Why are you using malware?
>>568455391>>568456576Stop baiting you double fried, watermelon eatin', cotton pickin', vantablack brimstone-blacker-than-coal niggers
>>568396039>cardsWe only use NovelAI here.
>>568456576It's vibe coded. Vibe code can't even code malware.
>>568457410See: >>568457171
>>568457171Nipple pinching is a legitimate tactic you temperamental cunt.
>>568455063It certainly seems rough around the edges. It could turn out to be a better AI Roguelite with more potential expansion and quicker update pace than whatever Maxloh is doing, but I'm very much struggling with the UI, wondering how I'm supposed to alter the map if something changes but the system behind doesn't understand properly.
She grinned with a devilish, mischievous why smirk. A simple smile isn't Chinese enough. Everyone must smirk and grin, mischievously.
>>568460836Sometimes with a predatory gleam in their eyes, even
>>568460836i love penis do you
>>568443503I can think of much worse things to get horny for
