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bolter-on-arbites anon, please spare yourself further embarrassment
Yes, it's Scions, SoB and Eldar fighting the Black Legion, it was when the Ynarri where going to Ultramar to help wake up BobbyG
>>568288865Why would i be embarrassed about the fact that i'm a better player than you and completely annihilated you in the argument?
>>568288865Congrats on feeding the baitposter more ammunition
Personally I can't stand the bolter on anyone but zealot with the knife throw cancel. I guess one motion for Vet would work too but I've never tried it.
>>568289154he's not baiting, he's being doing damage control for five solid hours
This is like some kind of hate fucking via text, why can't you retards just enjoy videogames and if you can't enjoy them play one that you can
>>568289267The only damage here is the damage i did to the ego of you anti-bolter trannies
>>568289424You're actually witnessing a very unique mating ritual anon, shhh....
Skits can't come fucking sooner
i love how this retard showed up and made the anti bolter and pro bolter posters turn against him with his obnoxious shit stirring
>>568289654they can if the magos biologis tweaks their cyberprostate settings
>>568289692He just couldn't help himself. He got excited and wanted some attention too
>>568283370According to the lazymaybe youtube guy, the playtest was actually full of people criticizing many aspects of the game including most of the ones that people are blasting it for in the steam reviews now. GSG just decided to ignore genuinely all of that and refuse to address any of the glaring issues.
>>568290056Eta on eos?
>>568290164a long, dragged-out death over several years
>>568290056They probably didn't have any idea how they would go about fixing their mistakes and had no choice but to keep going
why no radium weapons
The next class will be Eldar, it has been foretold in prophecy.
>>568290550because those tend to kill friendlies standing near the skits using them
>>568290646The next class will be Sister of Battle, it has been foretold in prophecy.
>>568290679so? dont skitarii not care for flesh, non admech humans
>>568290814units that don't want to die from cancer tend not to recruit people who use cancer guns
Volkite weapons when?
Itty bitty Skitty and a SoBItty bitty Skitty and a SoB
>>568291289Right after we get Votann
>>568291289no, we just get white phosphorous pistol
>>568291509It was funny the first time, ritual posts lose their humour fast though anon
>>568290278Many such cases…>>568290646>>568291572Kino if true…
>>568291728It wasn't a ritual post but now i'm turning it into one
>>568291509this is funny every timelove how that video enrages the chuds
>>568291289We're just getting the Gaza Genocide Rifle
guys...all the other classes i have fun withbut idk why hive scum just won't click with me
>>568291509may you get raped and stabbed by 'young teen' for this post
>>568292754Yes, and I'm suggesting not to. What is even the point of ritual posts? People grow tired of them and they just take up post/image count in the thread whilst making nobody laugh, and most of the time not even getting any responses
>>568293542I'm like that with psyker. I was never that big into magic users
>>568294152>they just take up post/image countNew threads can be made infinitely.
>>568294152I was just joking at first but now i'm definitely making it a ritual post
>>568294245Okay, sure. I still don't understand what you personally get out of ritual posting? Is it some sort of OCD/autism thing? Or are you the resident shitposter-kun just trying to find more ways to annoy people?
>>568294521I don't ritual post, I'm just pointing out your issue with posts being "taken up" is stupid since we have infinite posts available.
>>568294521You remind me of those autistic people who don't understand human interactions or motivations.
>>568294652Well not entirely, more useless posts mean more new threads have to be made with shorter turnaround, I know it takes 5 mins to whip an OP up but if we get into the nitty gritty these pointless ritual posts are increasing the workload of anons making the threads. That was just a side comment thoughbeit, my main point is that ritual posts are unfunny and pointless and I still don't get why people do them
>>568293542Same but I know why, it's just too squishy for me.
>>568294916Yeah I know I'm a dece bit autistic, but do you have an answer as to why people ritual post? Nobody seems to want to explain it
>>568295093>more useless posts mean more new threads have to be made with shorter turnaroundSo?>I know it takes 5 mins to whip an OP upIt takes 30 seconds at most, slightly more if updating for news.>if we get into the nitty gritty these pointless ritual posts are increasing the workload of anons making the threadsOh no! 30 seconds of work every couple of days! Only they have a right to complain about it in that case, and they don't. If you wish to complain, complain about schizo arguments that often eat up a third or more of a thread.>ritual posts are unfunny4u>I still don't get why people do themYou are autistic.
Is the guy who just spent several hours shitting up our thread by egging on a shitposter and by making weird homoerotic posts seriously calling our valued ritual posters annoying?
>>568295358>valued ritual posters
>>568295342>It takes 30 seconds at mostNow who's being autistically literal? 5 mins is just a figure of speech my dude>wrote a paragraph based on a side comment>still didn't answer/address the main pointMmkay shitposter>>568295358What value do they add?
Based sweeds thank you so much
>>568295761>wrote a paragraph.I'll give you a paragraph.Ritualism is a human trait, it adds texture to gatherings of people, culture, it distinguishes a place or a people from other places or people and creates cohesion and continuity. You are a low functioning autist, not the meme kind we joke about here, the kind where you literally don't have the psychological mapping to understand humanity on a conceptual level, and it makes you utilitarian to an inhuman degree. Even reading this explanation, you won't be able to internalise it or believe in it legitimately, you can only mimic understanding through logical means, or masking in other words, like you do in other areas of your life.Nobody else except you has a problem with ritual posts, but you never considered this since your autism hindered the development of a theory of mind, and now you are upset that you are being confronted with the reality that other people have their own thoughts on matters.In conclusion, shut the fuck up you spastic.
>>568296385Holy fucking shit you just split his autistic ass like firewood
>>568296385>Nobody else except you has a problem with ritual postsSimply not true, shitposter-kun
>first he spent five hours defending bolter on arbites>now he's going to pretend he actually cares about "our valued ritual posters">he genuinely thinks he's "baiting"
>>568296720Bolt pistol is better on Arbites isn't it? At least I thought so for the same reason it's good on Zealot, you can whip it out for the occasional sniping and you benefit from high movement speed with it out. The bolter is slow as shit outside of Vet that has a bunch of nodes to improve its swap, reload speed, damage and crit rate, and even then it's not the Vet's best selection.
>>568296720No, anon. Everyone is not the same person
you talk exactly like him, you retarded faggot
>>568297040https://youtube.com/watch?v=DKq4uoGdnFwDetective Retard is on the case!
>>568297040Who are you talking to?
DRG Rogue Core? More like DRG Rogue Troon!
>>568297436*Rouge
banal
bisting
>>568293226i don’t think that’s a 40k weapon>>568295358that’s being very generous
>>568297683Anon, there's plenty warcrime/genocide guns in 40K
>>568293175trying too hard
Grim chart of DRG Rogue Core player count.
>>568297804*Rouge
>>568297859what do fancy restaurants look like in the imperium?
>>568297804first payday then killing floor and now DRG. this genre is fucking cursed. how on earth has fatshark lasted this long?
I'm so fucking sick of finishing games with 2-3x the value of anyone else on the teamYou guys were right, I should uninstall scoreboard and just be an ignorant, worthless player
>>568297957Probably like a restaurant that was made out of a repurposed church and sells good meat instead of bartering rations and rodents.
>>568297957Probably a decent paradise world, Macragge has restaurants
>>568298045Maybe by not trying unironically>okay ze update is done push it and we go on 2 week vacation>2 week vacation while no one can playKek. The moment they care is maybe the moment they start failing hard.
>>568295215The appeal is because autists are creatures of habit and routine funnily enough. Now you know.
>>568297957The dingiest bar you can think of, or the most opulant and palatial eatery you can imagine, there's no middle ground
Hear me out. I think Rogue Core is more fun than Darktide. You all should give it a chance. When you get to the lower depths it gets much more exciting. Reminds me of Havoc and chaos wastes combined.
>>568297804The servers are down right now if this is a recent photo.
>>568298575I get that, but what makes the habit start? I've witnessed plenty of coworkers more autistic than me who are "stuck" at their job because they don't like change, but that job and routine was put in place for them, they didn't create it. Ritual posts are different in that they're a routine that has entirely been created by the autismo for no reason I can discern, like I just don't get what makes them pick a certain post to repeat and turn into a ritual and what they get out of that, it's baffling to me and what's even stranger is that if you reply to any ritual post to ask they just never reply
Its shocking to me that the same studio that made DRG made Rogue Core, I know its only EA right now but the difference in quality is crazy and how bad many aspects of RC there are.
>>568299998*Rouge
>>568300068*Scarlet
>>568298639the shared upgrades... I... I just can't
So this is the new shitposting bit? I'm already bored
Skitty news in 10 hours
>>568298639I bet it's decently fun if you're on comms with friends, but that's antithetical to DRG's biggest appeal which is just being able to hop in any game with anyone and they're all chill. I expect one of their major updates to completely change the way upgrades work, given the feedback. They should keep it though, just shunt it off into some alt-game mode for harder matches or something.
>>568299286The one thing you need to understand is that they *all* eventually get tired and stop doing it
>>568300882They actually just die irl
>>568300882I've seen some doing it for years with no sign of slowing or stopping, so I dunno seems like only poor health/death will get some of the more hardcore to cease. I'm also around on /tg/ and 40kg there has a dude who is always within the first like 10 posts without fail, it's unnerving
>>568296385>that pic>autists are just chimpanzeesHonestly explains a lot.
why let us know a month in advancewhat purpose does it possibly servejust release it at skulls you faggots
>>568296720The bolter is fine. It works well enough for bossing and sniping.
>>568301023I have seen guys keep up their ritual posts for a over a decade
>>568301463Do you feel the hype? The community?
True Grit?More like True Shit!
>>568300181I too hated it at first but the more I play the more its growing on me. There are plenty of upgrades to make sure you aren't completely gimped if you don't get exactly what you need. >>568300584I have been playing with randoms the entire time. Its like playing with randoms in darktide. Some are shit but some are great players. The upgrades thing really isn't as bad as you think. Even if you can't get perfect upgrades there is fun to be had dealing with the handicap.
>>568301464I'm not going to rehash the argument, but nobody said bolter was bad, quite the opposite. People were just saying it's not one of arbies' best and a couple shitposters were fostering a falseflagging argument that anyone saying that is bad with bolter.>>568301560Jfc, do you remember what they were?
is the joke meant to be that the rat is retarded and wrong?being able to shrug off multiple one tap downs is amazing, are you dumb
>>568301463Why wouldn't you want to know about such things as early as possible?
>>568296720>first he spent five hours defending bolter on arbitesDifferent anon here, I just woke upWhat's wrong with bolter on Arbites? I know they fixed the bug where having the bolter out made your dog explosion apply bleedBut genuinely the bolter is one of the strongest guns in the game? And it helps Arby delete a boss if he ends up getting stuck fighting it?Or is this just autists starting shit so that they can keep the thread alive?
>>568301764See >>568301683
>>568296928it pulls out fastest on zealot because of throwing knives, making it actually quite good for them as a 0-investment gun that can be pulled out basically instantly
>>568294152Remember...don't eat muties!
>>568301864Imperial Fist primaris intercessor
>>568288696My take away from this is that the Skitarii servoskull will be able to either be combat oriented, or support orientedIf you pick the medicae version it'll probably allow you to auto-revive alliesBut then you'll forgo the flamer variant and possibly even the hacking variantIf this thing can also auto-revive yourself however? I think the meta Skitty build will be 3x Wound curios
not too hot on the new LMG
Skittarii news' in 5 hours
Rogue
>>568304267*Rouge
>>568303552>If this thing can also auto-revive yourself however?ain't no way nephew
>>568304620Shush sis, let a boy dream
lamenters can't catch a fucking break
You know what's nice is the branx weapon skins might finally look decent with the skitarii outfits
>>568305121for those we cherish, we die in glory
what if after this update they add some rogue chaos skitarii enemies? They could just say the dsark mechanicum started taking an interest in Atoma for the same reason the admech did. They could sit in the backline and buff other enemies, kinda like the beastmen banner.
>>568306290*rouge
>>568306290im not a doomer when it comes to content but likecome onthis is such a stretch
>>568303552>If you pick the medicae version it'll probably allow you to auto-revive alliescosting a blitz charge to auto assist allies, downed or hogtied, within a reasonable range
>>568306532i just wanted to see if >>568306515 would reply
Downloading shopclick, what do I need to know about this event to make the most of it?
>>568308613Pick up the skulls
>>568308613Sit back and play what you enjoyLet the jobbers grind the fake event for you
>>568308850if he's a new player the mats from the event milestones actually matter.
>>568305121Jesus fucking christ, those guys would have been better off if they had the black rage and red thirst than whatever abysmally bad luck was psychically impregnated into their geneseed in exchange.
idk broes... I gave up on Sharttide completely after the expeditions update proved that Fartshit was going in the wrong direction still and has no intention of improving the game or giving players what they want. I feel obligated to at least try the skittie considering that Darktide is my most played game on Steam by a significant margin, but I feel that the magic is just gone and won't return. I haven't even played in a few months at this point because of how badly expeditions pissed me off.
>>568309464Don't worry. Skitarii will be just the spark you need to rekindle your fire
>>568309464You may rediscover the magic with skitariiusiusium release, I wouldn't force myself to play it until then, you'll just hate it more.
>>568309537>>568309580I don't really see how it could though. It's just going to be another blatantly overpowered DLC class that I am going to have to grind through the torture of playing heresy and shit again up to level 30 before I can play the actual game. Then it's going to be playing the exact same game I already have so much time in since they never add new maps or enemies. And there are going to be the inevitable launch bugs that will take over a month to fix. I guarantee that yet again 1/3 of the talent tree is going to be nonfunctional when it releases despite the feedback of an extensive network of unpaid beta tester youtubers. This game is basically soul crushing and Fatshark are basically abusing me and I should be able to sue them.
>>568309872So don't play it. Seems like your mind is made.
>>568309872Hope you fucking die
>>568309872Nothing lasts forever bro, you said it's your most played game on steam. It sounds like you've just juiced the thing for every last drop. You'd probably have a better time putting a return off until some new content drops to do, maybe even wait a few updates. Then you can come back and check out whatever we get in the future plus the skitt at the same time. AND it will have been beta tested and had it's broken bullshit fixed by then, maybe.
>>568309872dey r witerawy adding two new enemies this patch bwo
>>568310521Yes I saw that they are adding another cancerous shield enemy that they can spam in packs of 15. Luckily if you just buy the new DLC character he has a hard counter to this new enemy since his attacks can chain lightning between enemies :)
>>568310715yeah cuz there are absolutely no other counters to shielded enemies already in the game like arbite charge on a 5 second cooldown, vet shredder nades, ogryn rumbler, psyker flames, and scum flashes.
>>568310891>scum flashesNot the noob toob?
>>568297804FOTM (flavor of the moment)
>>568310521>two new enemies*1 new enemyThey just then lazily made 2 copies from it.
Why does BTL, when using the crusher, apply Thunderous to enemies, but doesn't apply skullcrusher?
>>568312075Thunderous applies on each hitSkullcrusher only applies on enemies that are already staggered
>>568309872>people are telling fatshark they want new maps, new enemies and weapons for all classes>they only keep making more DLC slop made out of reused contentThis game is in a death spiral and most players and even the devs are too dumb to see it.
>>568312240>Skullcrusher only applies on enemies that are already staggeredThen how come ogryn charge can apply skullcrusher to enemies when they aren't previouslt staggered?
>>568312409because it doesntmelee hits (pushes included) that stagger enemies, or on enemies who are already staggered, are what stack it to be extremely specificogryn charge is not a melee hit
>>568312409Wrong
>>568312306>reused contentwhat the fuck does this even meanall the weapons are new, which is why classes for existing weapons havent happened in a long timethe reason they keep doing it is because it makes fucking bank for them why wouldnt they
>>568298045The thing with the genre is that there's a lot of competition and it's hard to sell people on new coop games when they already have their comfort one.I've been enjoying the FUCK out of Far Far West lately but a friend had to unironically buy it for me because I had no faith in it and thought it looked sloppish.And its steam chart isn't much betterThough to be honest, DRG failing as a more well established name is more embarrassing than Far Far West not instantly being a hit.
>>568312409ogryn's dodge staggers, maybe you dodged THEN hit an already staggered mob
>>568312906>>568313023It does apply skullcrusher though...It was the main reason why they removed the double bleed application tech from charge, because it let you apply 10 stacks of bleed and then max stacks of skullcrusher and thunderous to enemies.Am I being gaslighted?
>>568313037>all the weapons are newPower sword isn't new.Arcmaul is just a shockmaul.That's already 2/6. And I can guarantee that the tranny swords, galvanic rifle and phospor pistol won't be either.Tranny swords are just going to be sword and dagger from VT (reused content).
>>568313487Oh it's this tiresome retard again
>>568313037Don't engage with him. He does this regularly
>>568314231>>568314436Not her but what are you people even talking about? They regularly reuse animations from Vermintide or from other weapons already in the game. It's pretty much guaranteed that the arc maul is going to be a reskinned shock maul with the moveset shuffled around, that's just how FS operates. The blade and dagger again will almost certainly be a Vermintide sword and dagger reskin.
>>568314864Are you saying like, "sword and dagger" as in a single, dual wielding weapon? Cause I'm pretty sure the datamine showed the skitt knife and skitt sword as separate objects.
>>568314231Please explain to us how a 4th shockmaul and 3rd power sword will be different from the 3 already existing shockmauls and 6 power swords we already have.
>>568314864when it releases and you're wrong, will you apologize?
>>568315109I haven't been paying much attention to the update but I saw one single jewtuber video going over the new weapons and they implied in the video that the transonic blade and the transonic razor were a paired weapon similar to the sword and dagger
>>568315109It absolutely did not and it's already confirmed that the sword and dagger is dual wielded together
How hard is havoc compared to auric maelstrom? I just want the helmets you get from the penance.
>>568315278You're the same retarded faggot who claimed that the arbites maul and shield was just the shock maul. You're too retarded to keep your bait subtld and convincing
>>568315109>Are you saying like, "sword and dagger" as in a single, dual wielding weaponWe know it is a dual wielding weapon because fatshark said we are only getting 6 weapons and the image that shows all the skittle weapons shows 7 weapons in total, with the trans sword and knife paired close together.It will be a sword & dagger reskin.
>>568315457>deflection>can't articulate a responseMad, seething and no actual arguments. Like I expected.
>>568315502>sword & dagger reskin.With completely new models, specials and movesetsAgain, too retarded for sublety
>>568315304>>568315329>>568315502Ah my bad, I was misremembering, I went to double check. Idgaf if it's a reskin that sounds fun
>>568315502>>568315603Reminder that this guy is well aware of the fact that his opinions are obviously wrong and retarded. He is trying to bait you so just tell him to fuck off and kill himself
>>568315629>With completely new modelsYes, that is what a reskin means. Good job figuring it out.>specialsAt best the tranny sword/dagger special is a relic blade mechanic stapled on or a electric field>and movesetsThis is the only positive thing.Rest is meaningless fluff.
>>568315405>How hard is havoc compared to auric maelstrom?It's chill until you get Emperor's Fading Light, which most importantly removes the brief period of damage resistance you get when your toughness is broken, meaning you get instagibbed by just about anything. That's ranks 16-29. It's still reasonably chill up to 21 iirc, at which point it's damnation difficulty, and you have to actually start trying because it gets progressively harder than maelstrom.Reference: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3375980903I believe the cosmetics only care about number of games played though so you could just run low level games. Unfortunately super low level games might as well not exist, and levels below 35 (arguably below 40) are populated with complete sub-human shitters, so I don't think you're in for a fun time.
>>568315765I've never been proven incorrect. It's just bunch of people who just get mad and can't respond with anything meaningful.I'm still yet to hear how a 4th shockmaul and 7th power sword will be different from the ones we have now.
See what i mean?>it's the same except it's different in every single wayLearn to recognize this retard's posts and tell him to fuck off and kill himself>>568315835Fuck off and kill yourself
>been playing for three days>just realized that the blessings don't automatically unlock when you put points in them but you have to manually add them to a weapon through the shrineI have reached levels of retardness that shouldn't be possible. Just think of all the other stuff I'm doing wrong. It's no wonder everybody hates me.
>>568316240Hey, at least you aren't this retarded tranny faggot >>568315979Look at him begging for our attention
>>568315405Max havoc is like 3x as hard as auric maelstrom, depending on the modifiers.Low havoc is easier than regular auric.
>>568309464just take a break lmao and come back later.
>>568316240I'm not angry enough to check people's builds in quickplay and you're probably in malice which can be cleared with a power 200 weapon and no blessings without any problems so who cares
Genestealers status?
>>568316828Nobody plays super low havoc because you unlock havoc 16 by clearing a maelstrom and 16 is not easier than a maelstrom, it's about the same.Difficulty increases every 5 ranks, 16 and 20 is pretty much the same, 21 is where auric ends and havoc starts.
>>568315860>levels below 35 (arguably below 40) are populated with complete sub-human shitters, so I don't think you're in for a fun timeHow bad are we talking here? I assume your typical wake up the daemonhost and rage quit retards are still running rampant.
>>568317235purge'd
Will genestealers work with heretics in tandem or it's going to be a 3-way war?
>>568317948I can't say exactly how bad because I never dwell that low. However, I can extrapolate what I see with TrueLevel in auric pubs. Players who got filtered by havoc around 20-30 are the biggest shitters imaginable and virtually never pull their own weight. I have to assume this extends to the actual h20-30 players, though I would also assume leavers are less likely?Either way, remind yourself that they're at that level because they aren't good enough to progress.You can't play havoc like auric, solo carrying becomes very fucking tricky and only a couple classes can reliably do it, and not all objectives can be easily soloed. I wouldn't even bother trying to solo anymore past 21, definitely not past 30. You really do need an actual team, and when your team consists of 3 mouthbreathers, it's fucking suffering.For example, because of how the players are, late into a wipe, 40s are unironically easier than 30s. The 40s may just be fucking around, but they're USUALLY there because they're at least good enough. 30s are likely there because they simply aren't good enough. Go figure that it'll be much harder that way.
>>568305715Oh fug u rite. I never understood why they chose to do such distinctively admech skins for the weapons when none of the classes got admech robes/armour, it looked so ill-fitting
>>568316051They are not different in every single way.
>>568317948I've been dipping my toes in havoc recently and the situation in the 20-30 trench is truly fucking dire. Shit that almost never happened when I was running maelstroms happen on the regular, everyone running around like headless chickens, chasing down every poxxer, no one can agree on where to stand when we need to hold out, people running away from bosses or getting tunnel vision when they appear, people with bad builds, people with unfinished weapons or bad curio setups, people that don't understand what coherency is, people that have forgotten how to block (???), etc.I don't know what teamwork looks like above 30, but I imagine it has to be better than the retards I've been playing with. I can see why anons here swear by inspection mods.
I'm still yet to hear how a 4th shockmaul and 7th power sword will be any different from the ones we have now, besides just "trust me bro"
>>568319632The skitarii power sword will be the vet power sword, but it works off heat and will actually be good. Proving once and for all that fatshark was trolling when they made the power falchion.
>>568309447they got those too
>>568318206warhammer works off of "the enemy of my enemy is not my friend, theyre just another enemy"
Zarona Revolver or Bolt Pistol (on Zealot)?
I already know what the Arc Rifle will be.We know skittles are designed around what the devs call the "arc mechanic" where it chains electricity from enemy to enemy.The Arc Rifle is just going to be electro staff's secondary fire.It is legit just electro staff 2.0 but OP because it is DLC.
>>568299998Is it really THAT bad though trickGOD…?>>568310521I like it when you talk like this…
>>568319739>reskin power falchion but make it actually OPAt last, I truely see.
How long will the krieg set be in the store?
>>568320184if i get to replay kz2 5 minutes of using arc rifle, thats fine by me
>>568311257more like FLOP of the month!!!
You know, i was one of the people that kept saying "SoB soon" but never truly believed itNow that Skittles are coming in, there's a genuine chance that shit will happen, oh no
>>568318206Genestealers and Genestealer cults are notoriously territorial, everyone who isn’t apart of the group is an enemy, and wars between the two groups are pretty much guaranteed wherever they’re found, so the latter. This works to our benefit of course since we could manufacture scenarios where they’re pinned against each other and sweep up the leftovers but that’s getting way ahead of the current story…
Hope Skittles get a op ammo perk, its the only enjoyable part of Scum.No matter how nice the weapon, I dont want the annoying ammo rat race.
>>568309872>>568309464You definitely need a break. There’s really no gaining that spark back once it’s gone but burning yourself out more isn’t going to help. I myself haven’t touched the game in more than a year but I can see myself squeezing some decent fun of Skittle if it’s done any justice.
>>568320693I hope it will be Novitiate, not actual SoB
>>568318262>biggest shitters imaginable and virtually never pull their own weightI can never tell whether I'm pulling my own weight or its just my ego. I'm usually good at not going down and can clutch outside of bosses where I just don't have the damage most of the time. At the very least I give the team extra damage with skullcrusher. >>568319594My experience in auric maelstrom hasn't been great desu. Some runs go well and others are a complete coinflip where you wonder if the people behind the screen are just drooling retards.
I just want to know what the fuck Motive Energy is supposed to do.
>the first 5 million step takes 32 hours to fill up>now we're like 90 hours in and it's at 27 million>check playercounts>they didn't go up significantlyhmmmm
>>568323238Yeah, they realised they fucked up and put a multiplier on player efforts
Does picking up the skulls actually do anything for you in the moment or is purely for adding another whatever-millionth to the bar
>>568324467Hoover up them skulls, they make you sanic fast and oneshot dweebs
>>568324571Isn't that from destroying the shrines
>>568312240Thunderstrike and Skullcrusher debuff apply on hit, it just isn't active until the target is staggered. The TTK would be much worse if it didn't work this way.
>>568322086>I can never tell whether I'm pulling my own weight or its just my ego.As long as you keep up with faster players and don't go down twice per wave, you're fine. If you're comfortable playing in forward positions and pay attention to objectives, you're already better than 95% of darktards. If you pay attention to your consumables, that's 99%. Most don't even possess object permanence.>you wonder if the people behind the screen are just drooling retards.Many genuinely are. >>568319594>I don't know what teamwork looks like above 30I've only dropped to 30 after a forced -10 on season reset, but it's usually been fine. Then again, I'm a day 1-2 grinder which means I'm most likely playing with peers who actually know how to havoc, so it's probably biased.Teamwork in 40s is often implicit. People generally know where to be and what to do. It's what makes anchor tards so terrible; if someone doesn't know when to haul ass and keep up, and just sits in the cuckbubble for minutes on end, it's a huge liability. I like there's two philosophies of>go fastwhere you take literally any opportunity you get to just push forward even if enemies are behind, and>go slowwhere you clear everything and wait out the end of a horde before you progressI and many others generally prefer going fast, but when a slowtard is in the party and refuses to adapt with the pace of the group, it's just the worst shit ever. Going slow has its merits, it's the safest way to get TS, but I literally just got a no-downs run (in an all True Survivor party, RIP) that barely took 26 minutes because we never really stopped moving.
I've been playing the game for about 3 hours and have had fun
>>568324748>even if enemies are behindI've started taking this as a good thing because every enemy left behind takes up spawn capacity on enemies ahead of you, the higher value they are, the better, the faster and safer forward progress can be.
>>568324791rogue core?
>>568324948Skitarii waitingroom tide
>>568324926Yes, that's genuinely a thing. It's what makes "speedrunning" possible, and close to optimal in havoc actually.Same shit as regular darktide: You are technically only required to kill a very small handful of enemies. Just kill the shit that slows you down and keep moving. If that means having 6 gorillion armored units chasing you, that just means you throw out chorus and some grenades or whatever and the problem solves itself probably.
>>568324791>i had funyou lie
>>568324748normalize and popularize the word "anchor tard"
Seems like I've unlocked quick play. Should I focus on playing through the campaign nonetheless?
>darktide free on PS plusGet ready for a new wave of tards
>>568326190Quick play gives you bonus XP and money. I'm not aware of any special reward from the campaign.
>>568326239Jesus. Already? It hasn’t even been two years since it released on there. Wonder if it’s Fatshark wanting another injection of players.
>>568326239my back is ready
>>568326239>>568326405More piggies at the slop trough once the skitter hits.
>>568326904Reminder that skittie will only ever get ONE (1) slop outfit LOL!
>>568326904can a pig be fed by only one meal?fatshark's animal cruelty is endless
>Far far west is promising but not fleshed out yet>DRG2 is a slop flopBack to Darktide it is. After I finish The Surge 1 +2
>>568327486Surge is fun but I preferred 1 more than 2. Even though it was jank as fuck, the atmosphere and level design were stellar
>>568327486I'm still mad Borderlands 4 turned out so bad. It was expected that the faggots who are so retarded they managed to make BL3 just don't have the brain capacity to fix their own mistakes, but still I had a tiny hope.
>>568327769Haven't started 2 yet, but I'm no stranger to sequels disappointing me. I really like the heavy duty weapons, very fun dunking on nerds.
>>568328287I wouldn't call it disappointing, the gameplay is easily a direct upgradeI just like the setting in 1 more
>>568328447Very nice, I will be eagerly awaiting my skills getting me through the first game so i can start the second.
>>568328119Eh, I'm still excited for the new raid boss. It looks cool.
>>568326239All the orange numbers are mine!
>GW intentionally makes lasguns shoot yellow bolts so it doesn't seem TOO scifi>games just make them all red lines anyway>GW starts enforcing the yellow bolt thing >everyone whining that lasers look like bullets nowthat is the literal point stylistically. They gave the lasguns muzzle flashes and yellow bolts so it would seem more like they're shooting actual guns, and not pewpew nerd lasers.
>first day playing darktide>random has a black character>he fails the phage tree find the right circle minigame multiple times>backs out>I do it without issue first time>he's even still in prison ragsminigames are a filter
>>568329710oh and also, this is why people describe lasguns as flashlights and all that meme shit. It's because the red laser portrayal lacks punch and weight.
>>568329710Yellow bolts look like shit and also retarded. Turns out that people don't like stuff that looks like shit and is retarded. Hope this helps!
>>568330470it's a vocal minority thing, spergs gonna sperg>hope this helps
>>568330269Kek I shouldn’t laugh because that BS filtered me too
>>568329710Yellow bolts look like regular tracer rounds from Earth 2026. Orange/reddish lasers actually look different from what we have in real life, it's more sci-fi, and we've had this in 40k games for 20 years. 40k is a pewpew nerd setting btw.
>>568332442The color used in the skitarii trailer is actually perfect>not deep red>not piss yellow>actually looks like a superheated beam of light works fine
>>568332529Color is fine, doesn't matter to me. I prefer the Dawn of War 2 that starts off bright yellow and fades through orange into red. But whatever. The biggest issue to me is bolt vs beam.
>>568332747I like bolt if the bolt is very fastbeams tend to not feel impactful unless they cheat with cool sounds and surrounding effects like the darktide sniper
>>568332992sounds and effects are not cheating
>>568333128how are you gonna put effects like this on every single shot on a faster firing las weapon, simultaneously fired by like 20 soldiers though? It only works out for snipers cause they're high profile specials who shoot one very dangerous shot
>>568332992Lasers do not work like bolts because they travel at the speed of light
>>568333254Not sure what you mean. We already do this in both Dawn of War and Darktide. It has been done. And it worked great.
>get SM2 EAC bypass>boot it up and then cheat engine>scan for the ordeal current value>do something to change it>scan for the new value comparing to the first scan>the addresses are never right, or nothing comes up at allI don't get it, plz halp I do not want to do 100 missions on all classes
>>568333340it wouldn't have recoil or make sounds either, there have always been concessions to realism in favor of making it feel good
For the Assist Havoc Penance, do you need to join someone else's Havoc or is hosting still fine?
>>568332442kys
>>568333593Assist means you make someone else's assignment win. Can't host that.
>>568333675no u kys. 20 years of beams in vidya, officially licensed by GW, makes beamy lasguns canon. By definition both bolt and beams are canon. Until GW now retconned it because they have no soul.
>>568334005I like the og art better than how it's been depicted in games
>>568332442>>568334005the guard is not supposed to look "more sci fi" it is supposed to be a grungy ass military only using the lowest sci fi weapons by the basest technical definitionthis is how it has been since the beginning, they did it differently in one video game so you could see what was happening in low res hell, and now you faggot fucking secondaries think you know better than everyone else.
>>568333565You keep asserting that bolts just inherently look/feel better than beams and they simply don't.
>>568334672No, I didnt. I just said I like it better and it seems like GW thinks it's better too so I agree with their choicesYou're the one that tried saying it's not realistic so I shouldnt have that opinion
>>568334235>they did it differently in one video game so you could see what was happening in low res hellDoW 1 & 2, Darktide, Space Marine 2, Rogue Trader.I don't think "i know better", I just happen to have taste. You retards think you're gonna get classic old art in your vidya, but you're actually getting a generic star wars blasts.Thanks to you fucking apologists 40k is getting the worst from the old era, and the worst from the new era.Introducing Female Star Wars Primaris Custodes. look i can post old art too. fuck you.
>>568334235>>568333675We need to go even further back anon, back to the good old days of rogue trader and epic
>>568335079generic star wars blasts would look ten times betterwhat exactly did you think seperated them from star wars blaster shots in the first place? its a bolt of color flying across the screen, it just looks better and letter cluttered than beams.
>>568334790>You're the one that tried saying it's not realistic so I shouldnt have that opinionNot only is it not realistic, but it looks retarded and you're retarded for liking ensloppified nu-GW trash. You're the kind of person who would defend the dogshit designs of Age of Sigmar.
>>568335334Now who's saying that one thing just inherently looks better than the other? You need to look inward, you're projecting and just saying it's better because you like it. Well I like the other thing more. Don't be so autistic
>>568333340You’re thinking of irl lasers. 40k lasers (like most lasers in fiction) do not travel that fast and move at a speed comparable to bullets iirc.
>>568335317Beams have worked perfectly fine for two decades in animated media. At the end of the day it's a matter of opinion, there's no right and wrong.
>yellow las bolts>indistinguishable from tracer roundsthis is a failure of visual designthere is no arguing thisif you think this isn't a problem, you're fucking wrong
>No more new weapons for the base classes, those all go to the dlc super special classes>No they don't share the weapons with the base classes either like they did in VermintideIt's fucking tiring man.
>>568335732don't question just buy new thing
>>568335537you are wrong, it was some bullshit invented for vidya because they think gamers are blind and does not override four decades of art and canon, which is the objectively correct option.
>>568335732Me, being a dumbass, expected Veteran and the Admech class to get a shared Plasma pistol.
>>568335453>Now who's saying that one thing just inherently looks better than the other?Me, because I am right and you are wrong.>you're projecting and just saying it's better because you like itNo, it's better because it actually looks like a laser. Lasguns shoot lasers so they should look like they are firing lasers. Lasers do not look like yellow Star Wars blaster bolts. The lasers as depicted as actual lasers in every Warhammer media prior to the modern ensloppified trash like DOW4, and they look better than yellow Star Wars blaster bolts.>Well I like the other thing moreAnd you have bad taste for liking that, and you are retarded for defending nu-GW slop. If I liked guardsmen wearing frilly pink dresses and using dilators instead of lasguns I would be equally retarded.
>>568335773>does not override four decades of art and canonGW overrides canon all the time. 20 years of officially licensed 40k games with beams makes them canon. And that, in turn, makes enforcing bolts a retcon.
>>568335961it isn't supposed to look like a laseryou are literally defending nu-GW slop right nowDoW was the beginning of the end, total secondary death
>>568335961Sorry kid, the original art depicts it the way I like it and GW is enforcing it now. This is probably why you're shitting yourself this viciously. You lost
>>568336194>no true 40k fanjust because something is older doesn't make it better, unc
>>568336323>defending nu-GW slop
When I saw that fatshark interview where they said their focus was shifting towards dlc classes I knew it was over.
>>568336153vidya will never be anything more than advertisements for plastic toys, if they really thought as you do they wouldn't be forcing vidya back to bolts now that graphics can handle itkys
>>568336194>it isn't supposed to look like a laserNTABut this is from Dark heresy made by Fantasy Flight back in 2008, which is the roleplaying game that inspired DarktideIt's a laser, the reason they look like that on old art is because the artists likely didn't get very clear instructions on what the gun should look like, and just tried to make it look cool.
>>568335961Autism
>>568336616dark heresy has never been canonthis is the same book that says we should all be fully geared out with power armor as acolytes of the inquisitionsure we'll get that any day now
>>568336387Nobody hates female custodes and primaris and nu-kislev more than i do.But now we have no meaningful visual distinction between autogun and lasgun fire. This was a solved problem back in 2004.
>>568329710>>GW intentionally makes lasguns shoot yellow bolts so it doesn't seem TOO scifi>>games just make them all red lines anyway>>GW starts enforcing the yellow bolt thing >>everyone whining that lasers look like bullets nowAre people so autistic nowadays that they don't realize that yellow lasers also exists?Laser is just fucking light and covers then entire visible part of the electromagnetic spectrum.
>>568336865firearms do not shoot glowing yellow bolts actually anonhave you never shot a gun before
>>568336523>vidya will never be anything more than advertisements for plastic toys>implying beams were used for technical limitationswrong x2>>56833679640k has never been consistent about anything, so the canon argument is moot on both sides
Ogryn's can roleplay as Reapers but Veteran's can't roleplay as Dreg/Scab gunners. This is unfair.
>>568336865Primaris are fine. Mk10 is cool.Femstodes are meh, but the biggest blunder with them was the very lazy "they always existed" angle. But at the same time I'm not surprised by it.
>>568337032i know that anon. but we are talking about video games, not real life. In vidya, bullets are typically shown as glowing yellow bolts.
>>568337217name five games that do this
>>568336913It doesn't matter what color the laser is. It's the fact that they are making them into blaster bolts now instead of actual lasers.>>568336616Attempting to use old art as any kind of argument is just retarded. There was an extreme amount of inconsistency in old art and lots of stuff that has been retconned completely.
>>568337363>It's the fact that they are making them into blaster bolts nowThey always like this even since the inception of 40k.This is even more autistic sperg issue.
>>568337156Who gets the cape that makes the class look like snipers?
>>568337319Helldivers 2, Armored Core 6, Battlefield 6, Mechabellum, Dawn of War 2.
>>568336796>this is the same book that says we should all be fully geared out with power armor as acolytes of the inquisitionAnon this is the setting where nobles in Necromunda go into the deep-hive to hunt people for sport while wearing power armorBut fine if you wanna be that pedantic1st edition: There is no description of what a lasgun actually is, other than reliable and cheap to produce (Also Eldar use lasguns in this tech, so everything in this era is non-canon, except when it conforms to nu-canon)So lets go to 2nd edition Imperial guard codexOh and what do you know... The edition that is OLDER than the pics you posted, says that they're lasersThe reason they look like star wars blaster shots, is because the artists probably just thought it looked cooler and no one cared to correct them
>>568337156The real question is when do Ogryn's get to roleplay as crushers.
>>568337567>They always like this even since the inception of 40k.except for the last 20 years when they have consistently been lasers>autist! sperg!yes, I care about my hobbies. I'll be an autist then.
>>568337928The real question is when can I get a 2 handed chain axe with heavy armor so I can roleplay as a Mauler.
>>568337048outside of vidya this has always been consistent, GW is now forcing consistency, DOWnigs are just upset because it proves it WAS technical limitationeven if they *could* make bolts they decided to go against established canon for the retarded gamer brain, and i am glad graphics have caught up enough to get rid of it.
>>568337928when do ogryns get to roleplay as orks painted purpleas in, when do they fucking disappearas in, when are they getting removed from the gamesorry for being subtle
>>568337363>There was an extreme amount of inconsistency in old artThe new art is not at all any better about consistency either.ALL of 40k art is inconsistent as fuck and even very prominent shit like space marines change both over all SIZE and in proportion even in official 1st party material.
>>568337679I wouldn't know, what I know is that no class get's a long-las or any of the enemie's elite weapons aside from the ogryn with the twin linked stubber.
>>568337901>The reason they look like star wars blaster shots, is because the artists probably just thought it looked cooler and no one cared to correct themAt the end of the day it's up to the artists interpretation of text. The lore mentions both "blasts" and "laser". The oldest art shows blasts, most likely because it's easier for the composition. Long lines makes it hard to draw a nice picture. But for video games which are animated, with the dimension of time, it opens up the possibility for lasers to be shown. Because they only appear for a split second. This is something game artists have understood for a long time.
>>568337981>except for the last 20 years when they have consistently been lasersThey haven't been.>my hobbiesThe actual 40k hobby is building and painting miniatures.Not arguing about made up fiction on an anonymous mongolian basket weaving forum.
>>568337981not only have they not "consistently been lasers" but even if they were, your logic is retarded>lasers are bolts in the og art>retconned by games into beamsThis is fine>retconned again (supposedly) into bolts after some yearsNOOOOOO I CARED SO MUCH ABOUT THE ORIGINAL VISION AND MEDIUM!! MY HOBBY IS SO IMPORTANT TO ME kill yourself
>>568338330>They haven't been.I repeat: DoW 1 & 2, Darktide, Space Marine 2, Rogue Trader. This is consistent. It didn't change until GW changed their mind.
>>568338334My argument was that the canon argument is stupid.
>>568338827Yet you claim that your position is superior "because you care about your hobby" like beam lasguns were ever canon
Claiming that "the old art shows star wars bolts" is so fucking funny because multiple examples have been posted in this thread of old art showing laser beams, individual bolts, and just straight up having no emission and all and just a muzzle flash like a bullet based firearm. I swear it's just bad actors/trolls perpetuating this retarded argument with the flimsiest possible backing and nobody can look at things with their own eyes apparently.
>>568338601>TIL james workshop has only done five new things in the last two decades
>>568338883No. My position is superior because beams is better visual design for an animated medium. All the other stuff is simply me picking apart the canon argument, which has no leg to stand on.
>>568338330>They haven't beenNigga they've been lasers since 2nd edition see>>568337901This shit came out in 1995It has been lasers for nearly three fucking decades
>>568339010Within the scope of Lasguns in Video Games, from the beginning until GW decided to enforce artists, yes. If there's a game I've forgotten about please let me know.
>>568339096>muzzle flash>still yellowsecondaries are insufferable, they are just bad actors/trolls who can't look at things with their own eyes apparently
>>568339297i think most people care about the shape, not the coloralso there's enough room in the lore to allow for different forgeworld marks to create slightly different color variation between yellow and red
>>568339096guess what those tanks are shooting in the backgroundyou know because you have lost this argument before :)
>>568339297>secondariesAnon you just ousted yourself, the yellow one is a MELTAGUNOnly the gun on the right is a lasgun and would you look at that, it's a long white beamAlso cover art as we've gone over is non-canon, the FLAVOR TEXT is the only thing that's canon
got his ass
>>568339036>It's better>I can't explain why, it just is! >if your opinion differs you don't care about the hobby! Autism in action
>>568339297>>still yellowThis is blatant proof that you are trolling. When proven wrong you just strawman about the fucking color when everyone can clearly see that the color has been all over the place, and the color can even be explained in universe as varying based on unit or forgeworld where the lasgun is produced. Being made on a different forgeworld won't change the physics of how a laser functions though.
>>568339552that is a yellow ass muzzle flash on the right and left
>>568337901> Anon this is the setting where nobles in Necromunda go into the deep-hive to hunt people for sport while wearing power armorSpyrer suits are a sight more impressive than regular power armor but I know what you mean
>>568339798no that is what you are doing using the single photo where all the guns are cropped at the muzzle flash that you DOW faggots always use when you demand GW change the 4 decades of canon to some ugly ass shit from the game you played when you were 15
>>568339759As I said: it's a matter of taste. My taste good, your taste bad. There's a few things I'm autistic about, and art is one of them. And while I love the old art style, I think the introduction of beams in 2004 was a slam dunk mega W, and now I'm just sad about losing something good.
>>568340227don't forget darktide, space marine 2, and rogue trader :)
>>568340227>that is what you are doing using the single photo where all the guns are cropped at the muzzle flash that you DOW faggots always useThank you for replying to my post about your strawmanning with yet another strawman. I don't know what you are even talking about. I do know what lasers look like though, and they definitely do not look like plasma bolts from Star Wars.
>>568339873>that is a yellow ass muzzle flash on the right and leftAnon you might legitimately need to get your eyes checked if this is yellow to you
>>568339552Shouldn’t it be out himself
>>568340645yes
>>568340383yes anon, it is a vidya mechanic only and one they changed now that they see them as canon stories adding to the lore>>568340443you will never post official art showing actual LINES of lasers shooting all across the whole battlefield red or blue or yellow, bad faith arguments and bad crops are all that you have for this pathetic cope. GW put this argument to rest definitively and you lost nigger
>>568339534>you know because you have lost this argument before :)I don't know who's living rent-free in your head, but I didn't post the codex cover as proofI posted the ACTUAL TEXT that calls it a laser within said codex, I only posted the cover because posts with images attached are more likely to get read
>>568340519That's light yellow.
>>568290056I'm aware, like i said in another reply, i was there since the first invite wave got thrown out and watched the whole shitshow unfold liveYou don't hate GSG enough
>>568340846they shoot lasers, they are lasgunsthey look like yellow bolts, and always have in canon
>>568340519Extra extra light yellow.
>>568340810>you will never post official art showing actual LINES of lasersThe lascannon and lasgun in this image posted in this thread >>568334235 show it as a line you fucking retarded troll. Again, not that old artwork matters at all since it is totally inconsistent and not representative of lore at all.
40k canon is as consistent as my erection
>>568341059>cropped at the muzzle flashagain with these bad faith argumentsbattlefield art is very popular in 40k, if you were right there would be ONE showing lasers being show across the entire battlefield, that is a striking visual and one artists would take advantage of if they thought it appropriate.
>>568341397again, lasers don't work on a still canvas because it fucks up the composition. As soon as we got animation, artists (officially licensed by GW) immediately went to beams because they could. And it worked.
>>568341354I keep getting ads for boner pills but I really have the opposite problem of unwanted erections in inappropriate situations.I'm I'm my mid thirties now and I keep hearing how younger guys all need boner pills.Couldn't be me.
>>568341397You'll also notice the heavy flamer doesn't shoot fire, and lascannons don't shoot beams (even though they canonically are beams). Meaning this art has taken creative liberty for the sake of art. I don't understand why old art gets treated like it's the law, while new art is treated as fake.
>>568341005>they look like yellow bolts, and always have in canonYou're gonna have to give me a fucking source for that other than looking at box cover art for plastic miniaturesWay to show that you're a tourist, by blatantly admitting that you never actually read the codex, you just googled old art and went "that looks cool"
>>568341598you have no fucking clue what you are talking about anon, you are a vidya secondary and know nothing of real artit isn't beams because that is not the canon
>>568341904the canon argument was already dismantled. Gotta find something else to cling on to.
>>568341904>it isn't beams because that is not the canonThis is a pathetic gaslighting attemptYou already got BTFO earlier, why are you still posting?
>>568342101>nuh uh i win i winnow you are going to act like a toddler and you dare cry bad faith to meyou people will always be insufferable GW is right to ignore you
>>568342302HOW is this some gotcha to you>the laser rifle has a power packwoaaaaaghit does not descibe it's visuals in any fucking waythe scores of official art do
>>568342317You didn't address my argument. The art you posted is showing a lascannon, but it's not shooting a las beam!???? It's almost like the artist took creative liberty and old artwork is not the end all be all of what is and isn't correct.
>>568342569i did, what you are coping about is the especially long muzzle flash, famous in this kind of artyou keep flopping between>well it looks bad on canvas so they can't do thatto>aren't you blind they do it all the timepick a lane, they are both pathetic lies
>>568341354And that’s by design. The canon is supposed to be flexible so players can effectively pick and choose what is or isn’t the case. Not all of it, but a lot of it, which is why GW is so fond of leaving the lore unclear and letting people fill in the blanks.
>>568342502Anon you do realize what a LASER is right? How fucking autistic are you?By your retarded logic then space marine are also firing las weaponsThat's just how they drew all guns back in the dayWhy do I even bother? You weren't even a sperm in your fathers balls yet back when actual grognards talked about how it was funny that the coverart never matched the lore for lasguns
>>568342947they are lasersthey gave every gun ridiculous muzzle flash even the laserslasers look like yellow bolts in this universe they always have, GW has declared from now on they always will and you NEED to get over it
>>568342813>famous in this kind of artyes, and it's also wrong
>>568343146>you NEED to get over itNot happening. I've seen the light. And the light is a beam. It's cooler. Better. We've had it for 20 years. It has worked amazingly well. It's the best.
>>568343146>they gave every gun ridiculous muzzle flash even the lasers>lasers look like yellow bolts in this universe they always haveDid you win the gold medal for mental gymnastics by chance? If not you should consider competing, this is impressive levels of self delusion
got his dick
Bodied that freak
>>568343898>>568343954cease
>>56833334040k is scifi fantasy, it doesn't play by the rules of real life no matter how you wish.
>>568344350There are basic rules of the universe that you have to follow even in "sci-fi fantasy" settings. Like humans not being able to breathe in space, or like lasers being beams of light.
>>568340260Not only am I happy they're going back to the roots, I'm happy you're losing things you like because you're an insufferable faggot
>Thread not even worth reading because schizos are fighting over colors.Disappointed in you all.
>>568343146>they always havenewfag tourist
>>568343148>wiki opening line written by some retard>not even a quotewas this meant to be an argument?
>>568343385>And the light is a beamThey clearly aren't. Not even in Darktide. They are just "bolts" of red light.
>>568344573>There are basic rules of the universe that you have to follow even in "sci-fi fantasy"There is not.
OH NO NO NO>This came out in 1991
>>568340846>Feeling the need to convince someone that the las in lasgun refers to a laserIf people want to be fucking retarded what on earth makes you think you're in a position to un-retard them
>>568344954>yellow laserUh oh.
irregardless of colour, blaster bolts just scream of star wars compared to pulsed hitscan beams with variable spread. Shit's so fucking lame amd even more generic scifi. Like Nu-Star Treks blaster bolts vs TNG's phaser beams. Darktide's lasgun rn is what everyone outside of 40k thinks of when it comes to lasguns. Honestly hoping the servo skull's lasgun still works like all the other lasguns.
>>568345118>Ok so I was fucking wrong and lying>B-But the color isn't red!
>>568344816If you don't know how lasers work and what constitutes a laser why are you so vehemently arguing how lasers workDid you know water can exist as a solid and a gas? Fucking idiot
Where the fuck is the dev blog?
>>568345385Soon, brotha. Soon.
>>568345110Oh I don't give a shit about that anon, I'm just foiling his pathetic gaslighting attempts, because otherwise newfags might actually believe such blatant lies as 40k having star wars blastersSomeone has to set the record straight
>>568345706Yeah I figure the main issue with most sci fi fans is they like the idea of sci, but not the sciAlso idk about the small explosion (namely the gore associated with it) but darktide does a good job of having the lasgun have "a recognizable crack" with every discharge
>>568344951So if GW decided to retcon the concept of humans needing oxygen to breathe, you would not attempt to say that the decision is stupid and nonsensical, but you would defend it? Just to be clear.
>>568345706Bodied that fucking retarded freak. Raped his soul for eternity.
This is what custodians are supposed to look like btwBack before 40k succumbed to Dragon Ball Z powerscaling and everyone had to be a obscenely powerful demi-god of warAnd yes that is why they're all nearly naked and cosplaying as the pillarmen from jojo in emperor's text to speech
>old art clearly shows lasguns with muzzle flashes>Ok but check out this old art where it shows a continuous laserdoesn't it just mean there used to be both and there should continue to be both
>>568346097Just to be clear they haven't because it's retarded, much like the kind of idiot who would present such a bullshit hypothetical scenarioActually I rescind thatHumans with an enhancrd ability to operate in suddrn oxygen loss do existThey're called space marinesFucking idiot
fags ITT don't equip their rejects based purely on aesthetics and instead go full nerd and follow metas, grim
>>568346590>used to be bothNo it means that back then GW wasn't anal retentive about artists being 100% lore accurate to what was actually written in LOREBy anons retarded logic, all these bolters are actually lasgunsBecause it has never been described in LORE that they were blastsThat's just how a lot of their artists drew ALL of the guns, regardless of it being a bolter, meltagun or lasgun
>>568346738I make Heavy from tf2 into ogryn.
>>568346738Ive seen the bayonet go from beastly melee weapon to "viable ranged weapon" at the cost of melee performance and frankly it pisses me off
>>568346872So if the art is not anything to go by why are we posting art to establish continuous lasers earlier? Is everyone just retarded here or whatWhere is it actually written in lore?
Lasers are beams because that's how lasers work.>n-no! not in MY universe!Your universe is wrong. Shut the fuck up.
>>568347080>Where is it actually written in lore?Fun fact codexes include more than rulesets to play by
>>568347290No shit, I'm asking for a source stupid
>>568347246Even then that doesn't change the fact that people can't tell the difference between a (relatively) slow bolt of energy vs a seemingly instantaneous/continuous stream of light
>>568347080>Where is it actually written in lore?Here>>568337901But anon decided to die on the hill that box art was canon, and now he's fucking deadPersonally I just took it as an excuse to post oldhammer art, since that's what I'm nostalgic for. Since it was a time of more creative freedom, rather than all art needing to be 100% model accurate
>>568347376>No shit, I'm asking for a source stupidI just told you, buy or pirate a codex of a las-weapon using faction and it documents the wargear briefly thereFucking idiot>But which oneThe one for the faction whose las-weapon you're being retarded about
>>568346097Retconning humans not needing oxygen to fuel their metabolism and then slightly changing how a generic scifi laser gun shoots lasers, are not the same change in magnitude or comparable.This isn't a "toyota prius in 1600s medieval setting" retcon.It's more of a "15th century sallet helmet making appearance in a 12th century medieval europe" retcon.
>>568289091I'll never stop being annoyed that the stupid Banshee thinks its going to take this chaos engine on and do literally fucking anything.
>>568347686Mossa is probably the only artist whose art is based off of history and old depictions
>>568347686To be honest that doesn't read to me like it's saying it's actually specifying beam or blast. It's just saying it's a laser, which a lasgun obviously shoots regardless of the form it takesLike I know in real life a laser doesn't come in any other form than a beam but clearly that is not the case for 40k
>>568347686>HereAll that says is "laser", it doesn't describe anything about what kind of projectile the weapon actually fires. It doesn't mention a beam or a bolt.
>>568347649well theyre not physically able to perceive it, you wouldnt be able to perceive the bolt energy, nor would the distance be far enough to appear not as a continuous beam between the muzzle and the target
>>568348078>A beam or a blastIt's a beam that causes a blast at the location that it hits/superheating the air and material it hitsSo it's a blast causing beam pulse
oh boy I can't wait to get a dev blog on the visual design of skitarii's pockets and a teaser about the voice actors for the four completely voice-modulated-to-shit personalities without actually providing any sound clips
>>568348265>well theyre not physically able to perceive it, you wouldnt be able to perceive the bolt energy, nor would the distance be far enough to appear not as a continuous beam between the muzzle and the targetYes they are, especially in game>Play MechWarrior, difference between lasers and pulses is exaggerated>Play any game with laser pulses and the length of the pulse is exaggerated to allow the player visual feedback>Ample descriptions of how lasguns work or the effect they incurBalancing reality and fiction id say Warhammer 40k does a pretty solid job
Been away from darktide for a bit, is laspistol crit stacked shocktrooper vet still viable? I used to use the knoife with uncanny and mercy killer on it to be the fastest lad in the squad.
>>568347808>no sourcestfu
>>568348058That stinger looks a little uh...Off model...Are you sure you can post that on a blueboard?>>568348243>Laser can mean whatever the fuck I want it to because I said soFuck off
>>568348519>Clipping is such a big deal kriegmen still have their deflated chest sacks that look like dogshit textures more than they do accessories
>>568348685>is laspistol crit stacked shocktrooper vet still viable?It's one of the strongest builds for vet. Uncanny got changed/nerfed to be melee only, but your build will still work almost the same. Just no more frag bleed abuse.
>>568348334I'm still not seeing how the text confirms the beam part over being a bolt like a starwars blaster. I'm not partial whatsoever, but it literally just says laser. You interpret that to mean beam because that's what a laser is irl but that would involve ignoring that lasers are often portrayed as energy projectiles in sci-fi, including 40k
Inb4 this ork is shooting a laser
>>568348921>>568348737Alright now shut the fuck up or ill know youre trollingNot that I didn't know already
28 DAYS UNTIL SKITARIIGIVE IT UP FOR 28 DAYS
>>568349524Ring that bell FASTER DAMN IT!
>>568348596what im saying is that its physically impossible for humans to be able to perceive a bolt of light, due to the fact that its moving at the speed of light, and the distance between them would be too short to appear as anything but a "continuous" beam, youre not going to see a segment of light under normal conditions
>>568347929No, changing the physics of how lasers function in your setting is definitely an equivalent to changing how the human respiratory system works. Both are equally stupid and nonsensical, but you choose to defend one.
>>568349465Wasn't so hard, was it bitch?
>>568348921>lasers are often portrayed as energy projectiles in sci-fi, including 40kI've played>Rogue trader>Darktide>Space marine 1/2>Dawn of war 1/2Seriously shut the fuck up retard
>>568349524ohhhhwho lives in hive city and uses a tube to peeskitarii metalpantshe's pale, sickly, and a quadruple amputeeskitarii metalpants
>>568349669>what im saying is that its physically impossible for humans to be able to perceive a bolt of lightAnd what I'm saying is "nothing happening and people falling over" is not good for a visual entertainment medium you stupid fuck>Take reality, exaggerate it for effect, but it's grounded in realityThat's 40kStupid fuck
>>568349465Anon you gotta spoonfeed these people, zoomers don't know how to read
>>568348825Nice, thank you. Time to constantly click heads and reload once per minute.
>>568348770>>568348058Both are coolPenis cannon is funny
>>568349885No I suppose not, though that says more about you than me
This is clearly a sign that Ogryn will get the multi-laser
Here is an official source (2ed rulebook) that states it's an "explosive energy blast with a similar effect to a bullet">>568349897Congrats, you played 6 video games. Happy for you.
>>568350080Inb4 people who have never tripped a circuit breaker or seen lightning don't get why a large instantaneous discharge of energy would have a snap/crack
>>568350064and thats not what im saying, retard, either, im saying that it will always appear as a "continuous" beam. can you read, retard, i never said it was invisible, i said you would only be able to perceive it as a beam, you wouldnt be able to see the trail of photons end as the beam as it collapses on the target from you not firing anymore
>>568335079>the flag says "XXIIV"that's not even a valid roman numeralI hope the artist got blacklisted for that mistake
>>568349669>>568348078>>568344350>>568345316>>568347649don’t have a horse in this color argument but this pretty much leads back into lasers in fiction hardly ever being consistent with what they are or how they behave irl. it’s a necessary creative concession because otherwise it would be too hard to write around for a lot of writers.
>>568350583>Congrats, you played 6 video games. Happy for youYeah. The most popular and well known onesAgain, you stupid fuckAlso>Look up the definition of blastIt's a vague enough word that >>568350080 is descriptive enough to supercede itStupid fuck
>>568350583Funny thing about that "2nd edition" bookIt still uses the old 1st edition art, from back when eldar could use lasguns and it got retconned in the actual 2nd Imperial guard codex to being laser so get fucked>>568350080Is from 3rd edition core rulebook which is the same edition all the art posted earlier as "proof" that they were blasts is from.Which came out in 1998 btwMeaning that Lasguns have been BEAMS OF LIGHT for 28 years
>>568351048Anon, there are plenty of 40k games that don't depict lasguns as beams. It doesn't stop being ambigious just because you played Darktide.
Lasers in 40k are solid red beams because I fucking said so.
>>568351125>Meaning that Lasguns have been BEAMS OF LIGHT for 28 yearsYeah but before that it was projectiles like bullets. I care for the original vision that's all.
>>568350742>im saying that it will always appear as a "continuous" beam. can you read, retard, i never said it was invisible, i said you would only be able to perceive it as a beam, you wouldnt be able to see the trail of photons end as the beam as it collapses on the target from you not firing anymoreI'm genuinely seeing you move, jump over, and knock over the goalpost all in one argumentShut up if you don't know what the hell you're whining aboutIn practice a pulse is imperceptibleThat isn't interesting so they make it a perceptible beam of lightThis beam of light has hitscan properties and instantaneous implementation rather than a point-and-maintain characteristicIf it looks like a laser that's all they care aboutIf it works like a "projectile" it's because your tard ass brain can't fathom that your tard ass is upset that there is no different between a call of duty bullet and a Warhammer laser and a star wars blasterWhich is why I think you're an idiot
www.youtube.com/watch?v=38mXmzdJF9QYo, peep the laser bolts!
>>568351193>Plenty gamesAgain, all the most popular ones depict them consistentlyNo I don't care about your niche ones
>>568351707That's good of you to point out, I'm glad you did your research there. That really is the most popular ones. But it's not all of them
>>568351376Space marines were faggots conducting discos on space party barges once upon a timeIf you want to stick to 1st edition, you frankly shouldn't be here since darktide isn't 1st editionDumbass
>Rogue Core25 hours into it, I'm starting to think maybe the developers need to pick a fucking lane.Is it meant to be super long missions where you methodically do everything to maximize yourself before a boss fight?Then why have the timer instead of increasingly difficult waves?Is it meant to be a time management game where you need to rush upgrades and get your shit together before the boss?Then why have 6 fucking floors?Is it meant to be a build focused game? Then the build options kind of suck.Is it meant to be full RNG but crazy builds roguelike? Then the fact most upgrades are low impact Number get Bigger is shit.What the fuck happened to these devs?
>>568351521things never said for 500 alexyoure incapable of understanding anything and riling yourself up over your own misunderstanding of things being said, settle down retard, and shut the fuck up and read carefully next time
>>568351808>The ones that I care about that you don't know totally refute your argumentLmao if that isn't a definition of niche depiction idk what isPoint is most people should know lasguns operate like what I think they doAnd somehow you're being vague for no reason just to perpetuate an argument
>>568352013>I'm gonna be vague, bring up bs reasons I don't believe you, and then accuse you of strawmanning when you counter argue my vague, retarded pointsFucking lmao
What is it with the drg (main drg not the rogue core) game and creating a mostly polite atmosphere where people actually use manners and try to pull their weight?How did drg do it?
>>568351198I don't necessarily care about them being red but it should be obvious to everyone who graduated high school that a LASgun would fire a LASER beam and not a bolt like it's a projectile weapon.
>>568352268it literally said it it always appear as a continuous beam, retard
>>568351997wait until you go back to DRG and realize the classes and perks haven't been touched in five years, and they're just as poorly madethere's a reason they never did the perk rework
>>568351376>I care for the original vision that's all.No you don't>Came out in 1987You have exactly ONE book that describes them WRONGUnless you're going to argue that "laser principle" means "not actually a laser at all"
>>568352102Stop yammering and explain why you think any but the most popular depictions don't count.
>>568352514WhereAll beams are continuousThat's why they're called beamsPulsed beams are still beamsMotherfucker a fast car can be fast it still has to park for the driver to get in and outA lightbulb can be bright and dark because it can be turned on and offA continuous beam can be turned on and offA camera shutter can be opened longer for greater exposureWhat the FUCK is your argument
You people have been arguing about this for FOUR (4) hours nonstop can someone please present their concession so we can move on
>>568352862Because as I said the most popular depictions are all consistent with each other>If I use too much words anon gets upset and doesn't read>If I use too few anon gets upset and demands moreNo more spoon-feeding your tard, troll ass
>>568352643The 2nd edition calls it laser too, then goes on to specify it's a blast that behaves like a bullet. The writers dont use the term "laser" to mean what you want it to mean.
>>568352946There will be no concession because the argument is being perpetuated by bad faith actors
>>568352904read it again, nigger>>568350064
>>568353056Stop whinging, read, answer. Why should only the 6 most popular depictions count?
>>568352946>Because someone is wilfully obtuse and ignorant this supposed "vague depiction" view gets validatedIt's the same reason the >Empire is bad because everyone is the bad guys Argument exists, is because some tard and his fellow tards all collectively tarded it into existence
>>568352427In short, The classes compliment each other. For example, the scout lights up the room so The engie can see minerals and give scout platforms. The scout gets up there for free, saving traversal ammo and time for the team. This all happens naturally because roles are clearly defined and made to work with each other. In RC you scramble for upgrades ir get left with the scraps at the end of a rotation. This does not compliment and instead breeds animosity.
>>568353264You're gonna be a fat baby at this rate
>>568352528While the DRG perks may be poor for the most part, the DRG dwarves feel like characters you can actually build and use in multiple ways.In theory you can with the Rogue Core dwarves, but I don't know, Slicer almost feels like a complete character.Falconer feels like the girlfriend character.Guardian feels like he's supposed to be a caster who only uses his gun when his allies aren't around to do it, but his casting isn't frequent enough.Spotter feels like it's filling a hole that didn't need to be filled, and as a result is kind of lame.Retcon has a cool gimmick ability, but unfortunately it's not usable in hallway fights.
>>568352427tangential but theres a degree of toxic positivity. If you're new and host a greenbeard hazard 1 mission there will be multiple kitted out max levels joining and speedrun the mission for you
>>568353680Excellent concession
>>568352946Welcome to /tg/This is now a /tg/ and /oldhammer/ threadYou're welcomeTo make things better the color also varies from writer to writer if you allow black library shitSometimes it's fucking BLUE
I got a concession stand if anyone needs more so we can finally drop this retarded argument and get back on topic!
>>568353806I thought toxic positivity was when everything goes wrong and people say "well you did good, and shouldn't change anything, just have fun.">>568352427Class identity and protection. Everyone feels useful because they all have their rolls to fill and can avoid stepping on each other's toes. Rogue Core probably needs something to make each character have a more defined role so you always know what upgrades each character should be gunning for.Or maybe a bit like other games where each dwarf/class can only see X type of upgrades and when you upgrade you see a different screen from your allies.
>>568353562I see now.>rogue core mechanics breed animosityThis ain’t right.How would you have these fixed?
>>568353075>Argument that nobody has a retort for gets posted>OKAY BUT CAN WE JUST DROP THE CONVERSATION NOW???Classic.
>>568354119What topic>Hey guys Theres a new class whose signature weapon is a large, historically low ROF weapon>In a game that wants large efficient damage in high volumeI don't care if it's the arqubus or the jezzailIt doesn't belong in current state darktideSkitarii are only in because it was whined about
>>568353075>goes on to specify it's a blast that behaves like a bulletIt's not even clear what exactly this means. In the context of British people who know nothing about guns, a traditional lasgun probably does behave like a gun in that it makes a loud noise and puts a hole in a target. Behaving like a gun doesn't necessarily mean it fires a projectile along a parabolic arc.
This autistic slap fight has been fun.
>>568354351Maybe a better selection, or more specialized perks so people chase specific builds? Along with not being forced to wait for the team to grab your perk.
I guess we're not getting any news today
>>568354428The newest codex is lawThat has always been the caseIt's like the quranIt's just that morons think because they aren't getting attention it means there's no argumentThe reality is you tourists should shut the fuck up, lurk moar and unironically pick up and read a codex/book beforr you trundle about with>But I know it to be this way because I watch Star warsHence why people hate tourists>TldrThere is no argument because there are no inconsistenciesAnd there is no doubt that people can't read
>>568354823Too much work, the community manager would then need at least 3 week vacation if they did give us news.
>>568354351>How would you have these fixed?NTA.First I'd remove the equipment choice from the starter box, assign tools to the individual dwarves, so you always know what they're capable of doing.Second, give each dwarf a starting gun, or an option of two guns preferably.Third, make the starting box give a LEGENDARY upgrade to the gun and tool, so it can define how the run is going to go from the start.Then make it so each class has unique upgrades they can get during a run (there can still be some overlap but each dwarf sees a different upgrade screen that can be a mix of unique/generic upgrades).Workbenches and such can still give access to other weapons, and if they really want it can sometimes give a weapon belonging to a different dwarf, but obviously you don't have the legendary upgrade/overclock the dwarf who started with it could get.
>>568354987If that's the case, the newest codexes say it's laser projectiles :)
>>568354663To be clear I don't think it's necessarily wrong>Catastrophic damage to flesh>Hilariously ineffective vs armorIs consistent with the common understanding of a hollow point round
>>568354663We're getting closer to the truth. I agree they know nothing about guns so they just write shit up. Why do we assume they know how lasers work? It says behaving like a bullet, not like a gun btw.
>>568355134And youre implying the two are mutually exclusive?
>>568353075>1st edition doesn't specify>2nd edition says it fires an explosive energy blast (Funny how later descriptions specify that this is what it looks like when the BEAM hits a targets)>3rd edition and to current edition Its a BEAM OF LIGHTAnon I'm not sure what you're trying to prove here beyond your own retardationIt also really doesn't help your case that you posed the version, from back when Eldar also used lasguns
>>568355543To be fair iirc bright lances and darklances are laser weapons
>>568355337No? >Nu-GW codexes from 2024+ claim that lasguns shoot projectiles actually>anons go "Nuh uh. Look at the old material">very old codexes from 1993 specify that lasguns shoot "blasts that behave like bullets">anons go "Nuh uh. Only the latest codex counts"Which is it? Btw, I acknowledge they refer to it as a traditional laser concept inbetween and that's what games ran with for a while. But people are acting like this is a retcon when it's really more like GW just never clarified and has made directly contradictory claims because they're low IQ brits who didn't really care.The only actual sensible angle is to go by rule of cool, and that's subjective. I don't even mind projectile type laser weapons, but I don't mind beams either. Both are fine. I'm more wondering why they would so autistically try to banish one or the other.
>>568355809>No?Okay so if you have nothing to add or contradict my statement I don't need to read your wall of text, shut up unless you have any issues interpretating this post >>568354987
>>568356272Try reading the post.
>>568355809>Nu-GW codexes from 2024+ claim that lasguns shoot projectiles actuallyI'm going to need to see the actual text from the new codex to believe thatToo many bad faith arguments have been made to just take your word for it
>>568355328Bullets are generally perceived as instantaneously travelling hitscans by nogunz fags, so they may as well be lasers to them. Not many people comprehend that a gun is firing a projectile along an arc in the same way that an artillery piece does. They just think big bang and then the target explodes.
4th DLC class should be eldar, and they should be another tall class that towers over humans.
>>568355809Let me ask you this because you seem to think a laser can be a projectile but not a beam>Do you think a laser or light in general has projectilr properties And>How are lasers controlled and utilized in real lifeIll even leave a hint as to why your question and responses frankly seem to stem from you being uninformedBoth about sci fi, as well as reality
>>568344605>complaining about ammo>while you're carrying an ammo crate
>>568356820I forget what I picked up sometimes.
>>568356820>If you're upset enough to look at someone else's stuff you can bother to check your own shit
>>568356374>Bad faith argumentsIf you say so, here's the sources. >Imperial 'las' weapons are not true laser weapons, but rather sophisticated particle-beam weapons that emit a coherent 'packet' of energy that can melt through armour and sear flesh on impact. The category of weapon encapsulates perhaps the most disparate selection of weapons in the galaxy, ranging from crystalline cell-powered pistols to the prodigiously large primary armaments of void-ships. Within this broad bandwidth lie lasguns and lascannon, frequently relied upon by numerous forces thanks to their rechargeable power packs or inbuilt generator systems that lessen the burden on an army's logistical train. >source: Excerpt: White Dwarf 482 - Amoury of the Age of Darkness, a reference tool included with the magazine that explains the rules and wargearAre you going to backpedal on the "ONLY THE LATEST COUNTS" now and still pretend I'm posting in bad faith, anon? It's kind of silly of you ask this anyway. Have you missed that GW has been requiring all WH40k properties to depict lasguns as blasters since 2024? Usually yellow ones too. Yet you somehow doubt that they'd write this in their official rulebooks and shit? I don't really see the point of this rhetorical avenue you're taking
>>568356820Maybe he just doesn't like the dude hogging the pickups scattered on the map?
>>568345118>>568345306the difference between red and yellow light is a few nanometers in wavelengththere's no reason why the imperium couldn't use both for different variants of lasweapons
>>568356779>Let me ask you this because you seem to think a laser can be a projectile but not a beamNo, you completely misidentified what's going on, blind as a retard in a hurry, so to speak. It's not me that thinks that, it's evidently GW, because since 2024 they mandate that all sources explain Lasguns that way and mandate that they're depicted that way.
>space orcsI can't believe there are people who take this setting seriously.
Perfect.
>>568357292You just entered that into Grok and asked it to write a codex entry where it says they aren't laser weaponsUnless you post a picture of the actual page in the codex, then get bent>Have you missed that GW has been requiring all WH40k properties to depict lasguns as blasters since 2024?kek
>>568357510And lets not forget that they're BLUE in some of the black library books
>>568357719Since you're going to say the PDF is fake, here's a physical video of someone opening his magazine and showing the exact excerpt I just copypasted.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4gY4EBkZ-01:39
I enjoy waking up daemon hosts and then quitting the game just before they lock on to me.
>>568288696Unironically love seeing revolver mechanisms on things other than regular revolvers
>>568358098>WHITE DWARFSo you don't actually have a single codex entry from a new codex, gotchaIf you actually owned the book you'd just take a quick photo and post it, but we all know you're just a tourist chasing (you)s
>>568288696Orks as new enemy faction in Darktide when? We got Beastmen in VT2
>>568357526>Can't answer yes or noOkay retard let me interpret your tardations to the best of my abilityAll lasers are projectiles because all light is particlesNot all projectiles are lasersTherefore there is no issue in the term "laser projectile" outside of the fact that projectile is redundant, but not contradictoryDumbass
>>568358701Too expensiveWould be a speaking role and would justify a higher funded foundation justifying a new game
skitarii doesn't have a laser weapon so this whole conversation is irrelevantnothing outside of skitarii will matter in a month
Should I refund Rogue Core? I was sorta having fun (90 minutes played) but I'm afraid it's gonna be a dead game real fastI don't mind playing solo but these games are rarely tuned for solo play
>>568358562>you made it up>ok the quote exists but you invented it >Ok the pdf exists but you edited it >okay the physical video of the rulecard being opened exists but it doesn't count after allFunny, but I think I'll not continue wasting time kicking your teeth in. Btw, the last actual weapon lore blurbs in rulebooks were in 2014, so there wouldn't be a source. A secondary like you know wouldn't know that though, but I already knew you're a retarded faggot.
>>568357292>GW has been requiring all WH40k properties to depict lasguns as blasters since 2024?Oh gee I wonder how they depicted las weapons in their hit new flagship title Space marine 2 from 2024https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TapnIvK5A98Oh it's red lasers
>>568359079Stryopyro a d Rednile are 100% both on some kind of list
>>568359006It's gonna be like hive cum all over again isn't it?Everyone sucks ass and FS knows better than to reinsert arbys 2
>>568359054I'd say refund it
>>568359072>You're right and irrefutable and there's nothing outside of further wilful retardation to disprove thisI accept that concession
>>568358825Wait so you just had a semantics hangup? Annoying little faggot man. You clearly knew what I meant when I called it a laser projectile, we were talking about the laser beam vs laser bolt dichotomy. Obnoxious pseud
>>568357584It’s fun. You should always remember not to take it *too* seriously and that’s where Orks come in.
>>568359079This might shock you, but there are points later in 2024 than september 2024Here's where the mandate came into effecthttps://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/cvvjq1ua/las-canon-how-the-astra-militarums-indomitable-lasgun-works/>dec 24
Man, the hard AI on Ready or Not is some bull-fucking-shit.
>>568359647Oh and I forgot to say, there are no WH40k visual media that depict a lasgun as shooting anything but such a bolt of energy. No more actual "laser" las.
>>568359079This is because SM2 developement started before GW became autistic. Well, more autistic than before.Same reason why Darktide also has red lasers.It's kind of unrelated but we can get more specific with Darktide.Just by looking at the enemies, ie. all of the nurgle shit, you can tell Darktide's developement started around in 2017 ish, this is because 2017 was around when GW was focusing on Death Guard and Nurgle as the "Big Bad Enemy of the Month".Which also then explains why we are fighting poxwalkers and why the Walking Pox is the main issue of the story. Since Walking Pox is a virus created by Typhus, it's his creation.
>>568359427There's no laser bolt what are you going on aboutI'm responding to your postI'm not going further down your rabbit holeYou're going deeper for no reason, and only when it's convenient enough to justify you acting like a dickWhat the fuck are you going on about at this point
>>568359897no new*>>568360030I think it's really just because it came out before they finalized the mandate. September 2024 release, Dec 2024 is when GW started pushing itYou can literally go look at the newest Darktide trailer and see that they now also use visible travelling projectile type lasers.
>>568359647>WARHAMMER COMMUNITY POST>Written by a literal whoSo you still don't have an actual codex entry that states this? Just some intern doing a write up going by surface level cover art?I accept your concession
>>568360056You don't even understand what argument you're trying to participate in but you still wanted to be a smartass? Sad. I'll explain though:Look at how Las works in Darktide. Instant beamsLook at how Las works in the latest Darktide trailer, or in DW4. Notice something? Notice how you can visibly see the lasguns shoot out bolts that travel like a projectile? This is the distinction we were talking about.
>>568359897No visual media?Battlefleet gothic isn't visual media?Rogue trader isn't visual media?
>>568360156>see that they now also use visible travelling projectile type lasers.Darktide has been using those lasers since the start, they didn't change anything.
>>568360305I don't even know what the fuck you're trying to say. Find me a WH40k or source past Dec 2024 that doesn't comply with the described lasgun conceptAre you just in denial about the new lasguns? Do you think I'm making it up? Go look at Dawn of War 4, retardio
>>568360360>Dw4No I don't look forward to RTS games from unproven companies>Darktide trailerYou mean the one where there was a bunch of fog and blue? Doesn't really matter since I play darktide, ill totally agree with you when I see it happen in game thoughIf at all
>>568306636You know, I dont hate this idea actually. As long as it doesn't actually restore HP.
>>568360378I'm obviously talking about shit made past the fucking december 2024 mandate you retarded shiteating pedant. I even corrected myself and you chose to ignore it. Kill yourself>>568360641No, in darktide it's beams, not slow moving projectiles
>>568360305>>WARHAMMER COMMUNITY POST>>Written by a literal whoNta, but pretending that the actual, official news site ran by GW itself, where everything published on it is made by GW itself and approved by GW itself, somehow isn't canon.Is really, really dumb.It's on par with pic related.
>>568360668>Video games don't count!>You're a tourist if you use Video games as an example>But also this one video game counts because it supports my argumentWhat a tremendous bundle of sticksI asked for a new codex entry and until you provide it you argument is null and void
>>568360993>not slow moving projectilesThey were always projectiles even in Darktide.Infantry Lasguns and Helbores always used projectiles... They still use them even now. Both the enemies and player character weapons use projectiles.
>>568360669Nobody said it would ever be implemented ingame. I said they're not allowed to produce anything new since Dec 2024 that shows lasguns the dawn of war 1 way. In fact you can literally see in the trailer that the servoskull fires yellow laser bolts. I guarantee you this will be ingame. I swear you are dumb as a brick bro, have some humility. I'm not even hating I know a lot of albanians who are pretty funny who are brickheaded retards like you. Know your limits that's all
>>568361207>>Video games don't count!Not him, but he clearly means video games made before December 2024 don't count.Dawn of War 4 and Total War: Warhammer are coming out AFTER December 2024, that's why those games are complying with the new standard GW set.It's really not that difficult to figure out.
>>568360996>official news site ran by GW itselfBecause you're business illiterate GW says all kinds of crap on warhammer community all the time, because they get whoever the fuck is available to write shit for it
>>568361265Wrong. I don't even know what to say, just play the game retard. Every lasgun in darktide fires a beam, and old trailers showed it that way toohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24sQfj4kYTQ>>568361207You are an actual gorilla retard nigger too. I'm clearly saying there was a cutoff point in Dec 2024 where Games Workshop mandated everyone to stop portraying lasers as beams in new releases.
>>568361265yeah you can literally go in darktide right now and use any lasgun and see that it works exactly like the new skitarii trailer, a bolt projectile. Wtf is this argument?
>>568361975Those are clearly firing projectlies as well. The red "ribbon" part is just a trail not a beam.You can clearly see them firing the projectile that then leaves the trail behind. You can see some of the projectiles at 00:10 that then have no "trail" to them at all.Also I can tell why the reason for this is.This entire cutscene was made with the game/game engine itself, and within the game itself you can sometimes see these actual "trails" when the traitor guardsmen are shooting at you and missing you. These here are not beams, they are projectiles.It's also the reason why this trailer looks a bit odd when compared to the arbites or even the skitarii trailer. The arby and skittle trailers were made with a separate program, like Blender or even UE5 most likely
>>568361975have you literally ever used a lasgun retard?
>>568362936>>568362884Oh gotcha so you're just doing the bad faith thing where you pretend you dont get the difference between beams and slow moving bolts and are trying to pin it on a semantics distinction that nobody cares about
>>568360668I don't understand what the point of this change was.IG already had stubbers, if you wanted bullets you just give them stubbers.
>>568363134you know bitches be giving up when they start saying "bad faith" and "semantics"
>>568363092>>568362936>>568361265>>568362884the samefag meltdown is insane. darktide lasguns are just beams, not starwars blasters. you either don't know what people are talking about or you think lying about something everyone else knows is funny. bizarre behavior
>>568363573try playing the game one time tourist
>>568350583Here's 3rd ed rulebook
>>568364010Yeah I know it's been posted. The point was anons kept going >no only the oldest source counts! but when I show an older source they go>no only the newest source counts!
>>568360668>Game that looks like shit looks like shitMehWell they look fine up until then I don't know what else to sayIt's like some guy took "bullet properties" too literally
>>568363134I'm in bad faith because the beams are in both?
>>568363134>you're>4chan is one personIf there isn't an oldfag image attached to it, then it's definitely a different anon to meI will admit I hadn't really followed Dawn of War 4 or seen that atrocious retcon of a community post, which means that I did learn something from this exercise.Not anything good mind you, because as I pointed out, it's been BEAMS since third edition and this reeks of someone inheriting the property and not even understanding it, and then making a choice based on marketing.This is genuinely more of a betrayal than female custodes, because I never gave a shit about the golden coneheads anyway
>>568364239No one said the oldest source countsThe consensus is the newest one counts no matter how shitty it looksIt's just when you ask a vague question about "where" and "ever" and then constantly spam "source?????!?!!!!" Then you get a lot of sources from alot of peopleDipshit
>>568364625It's going to be even more embarrassing since there's no reason that >Brightlances as depicted in dow2/1Should be different from>Imperial lances as depicted in battlefleet gothic/rogue traderShould be different from lasguns
>>568364745could've just scrolled up 2 posts instead of whining
>>568364625>I will admit I hadn't really followed Dawn of War 4 or seen that atrocious retcon of a community post, which means that I did learn something from this exercise.You quite literally were unaware of the actual point of the entire discussion while engaging in it, impressive
>>568365240>You quite literally were unaware of the actual point of the entire discussion while engaging in it, impressive95% of 4chan posts btwThis entire conversation could have been avoided if anon lead with the community post, rather than trying to use ancient box art as "proof" when the lore that accompanied said box art contradicted the statement.
>>568355809>explosive energy blast with a similar effect to a bullet or small shellDoesn't really say anything about it being something like a projectile you can watch travel through the air. It's not saying the energy blast itself behaves like a bullet, it's just saying the effect of the shot is like a bullet.A very high powered laser will have the contact effect of a blast, as the materials it contacts instantly vaporize and cause a small explosion. Having the effect of a small bullet or shell means that vapor explosion from the instantaneous beam just has an effect on the target similar to as if it was hit by a solid projectile like a bullet.
can't we just go back to arguing about bolters on arbites or somethingnone of this shit has anything to do with darktide, or any other game this general is supposed to be about for that matter
>>568365475The entire argument started with >>568329710 explaining the mandate in full. You just didn't read and now you're coping
>>568366496there's no devblog to nitpick and doompost about and everyone is already long done with the event, so I'm not sure what discussion you think there should be here in darktide general
my balls are sweatymoms spaghetti
>>568365617I don't see how a laser hitting something could have a similar effect as a bullet unless it was also a fantasy laser projectile thing. A bullet doesn't explode on impact, it's a projectile that digs in
>>568365076Nah I preach what I prayNewest verifiable source is all that mattersIf you ask "when" and "ever" don't be surprised if your vague and broad questions invite open and vast interpretations
>>568366696This offshoot revival of the primaris meltdown is a little too gay for my taste
>>568364419>>568363808>>568363471profoundly retarded or merely pretending? these are laser beams, there is no projectilein the skitarii trailer it's slow travelling bolts
I THINK THE RIPPER GUN IS OGRYN'S BEST RANGED WEAPON
>>568360641>>568362936>>568363092>>568361265see >>568367224to anyone witnesisng this, this is your reminder that 90% of people talking about darktide ITT havent played it
copaganda
>>568366503Except anon didn't lead with the community postAnon went with this instead>>568333675As if posting box art, from a edition where the lore literally states the opposite was an argument for GWs retcon>>568350080Because I think a certain someone wanted to farm as many (you)s as possible, because they knew this would be an incendiary statementAnd it worked like a charm, great b8 m8
>>568367458presented without comment (i lied there is one in the filename for you)
>>568366983When a bullet contacts actual armor it tends to cause an explosion.
How to fix Rogue Core, as a start each Dwarf needs to fill a team niche.Slicer - Heavily reduce sword damage, but make it apply a vulnerability debuff to enemies hit, give it a wider swing arc to compensate. Spotter - Make spotter buffs stronger for allies than himself Guardian - Make his defensive abilities scale if he's near alliesFalconer - Bird when used on an ally greatly increases their damage, slightly reduce how busted it is baseline.Retcon - Replace Berserk with an activatable version of the Accelerate upgrade.After that the upgrade system needs a serious looking at.
>>568366983https://youtu.be/bDemr-l0gYo?si=tcKemcRf3LWt1pSk&t=470
>>568368576>hyping the red army 4 years deep into fighting dirt farmers
>>568360996>tumblrites blogging about 4channing That explains so much about how this site turned out >>568368950Kek
>>568368950Mighty foes, those dirt farmers, seems nobody can beat them.Maybe we should just replace our armed forces with malnourished vietnamese villagers and win forever.
>>568366724That is NOT what the lyrics say!
>>568367224Those are the exact projectile "trails" I talked about.Go look at the Wolfer trailer you post and look at around 00:08-00:10 You can clearly see some of the projectiles and they don't even have the "trail" behind them.
>>568367453Top 5 tards this place has ever seen what a legend
>>568367197>primaris meltdownI’m sad I missed out on this. Happened before I was really familiar with the setting.
>>568369867those arent trails you stupid coping faggot. There is no projectile, that IS the lasgun shot. I specifically turned the camera so you can see it ends right there, they're instanteous and it's NOT a trail of a projectilekys you dumb nigger stop talking about games YOU DON'T FUCKING PLAY jesus christ fuck off man, rope, neck now
>>568370458>those arent trailsThey clearly are, if they were actual lasers they would be fully straight and not wavy and ribbon like.
>>568370559THEY ARE NOT TRAILSTHEY ARE THE BEAMS. THERE IS NO TRAVEL TIME, IT'S INSTANT LASER BEAMS THAT CRACK THROUGH THE AIR Jesus fucking christ stop talking about games you don't play I beg you. Please dude you're killing me
>>568360030Was that push also around during vermintide 1 when we got then as secondary antagonists?
>>568359079Is this webm actually real???
>>5683529467 hours now btw
>>568370687technically the heretic lasers look more like bolts similar to lightning bolts
>>568370458>>568367224The difference between this and the trailer is just that the trailer was made in UE5.
>>568370687>THERE IS NO TRAVEL TIMEc
>>568370559I'm just gonna butt in here but temperature differences in air can cause visual distortions due to refraction. It's why mirages are a thing, and it's definitely possible that an intense beam of light heating the air around it might cause it to not look like a perfectly straight line to an observer.
>>568372101>>568370559It's just the lasgun laser dissipating because it would look weird if it clicked off instantly. The animation starts with them perfectly straight
The thing that 41st millennia people call "las" might or might not have much to do with what we call a laser.
>>568372508Depends on what source you look atIf you're going by GW, they straight up explain that it's a laser like we'd know it around the 3rd editionbut if you're going by GW, they straight up explain that it's a photon packet of sorts that gets flung downrange around 2024, and a lot of the early concept art suggests this too but who knows what they were thinking
>>568370687>THERE IS NO TRAVEL TIMEIf they had no travel time you wouldn't be able to dodge the laser bolts.
>>568373743Emprah, sah!
>>568373743you dodge them by sliding so fast the gunners aim ends up off
>>568367353I get it, it's funny because all ogryns ranged weapons suck and the ranged capstone sucks so any ranged weapon is just a matter of preference
>>568372508That is likely. When Votann were released we got names for the weapon types they used. Boltguns and plasma were normal, but there were 2 weapons which were odd and those were their volkite's and las weapons.They are named Volkanite weapons and Hylas rifles.It's obvious that the intention is to show that the kin use old DAoT tech, the Imperium does find DAoT tech sometimes but the STC files/fragments are often corrupted (regular data corruption, not the chaotic kind) or incomplete.And this would extended to names as well potentially. All volkite weapons are in reality volkanite weapons and all las weapons are actually hylas weapons which might not even be laser weapons at all. Which is very appropriate for 40k because the Mechanicus doesn't know everything and humanity has lost tons of knowledge, so they don't know what a "hylas" weapon is or how it actually functions isn't through lasers but some other for enegy projectile.
>>568370687They are not beams, they are projectiles.
How did Rouge-Core manage to attract such an incredible amount of retarded dip-shits. It's really bad, I never saw retards like this playing DRG. I am actively starting to despise most of it's current player-base. Not even DT get's retarded players like these
>>568327486>Far far west is promising but not fleshed out yetIt has a decent amount of content desuThere's 7 maps, and they're all pretty hugeThere's 10 weapons that all play differently from eachotherThere's also 25 spells, and they can be comboed together to do even more bullshitThere's also a decent bit of depth to character building and movement. If you choose to build around movement you can do some silly shit, to the point you probably won't even bring a horse in favor of just bunnyhopping around the map.
>>568372508Exactly. You could say this for most of what fictional works call ‘lasers’. It’s simply too much hassle for them to be all the realistic speed or deal the same amount of damage and etc. but that’s more a meta problem than a 40k one.
I got almost everything unlocked in HD2Should I get Deep Rock Galactic or Far Far West next?
>>568375385brits call flashlights "torches" despite the 2 having next to nothing to do with each other, apart from providing light
>>568376390DRG because the completionist grind is time gated. Get started on that ASAP. No idea about FFW. Darktide also has a big grind if that's all you're after.
>>568376390If you start playing DRG. I honestly recommend modding in some Blank-cores so you don't have to abide by their retarded time-gating You use them to get over-clocks that unlocks unique modifiers and weapons + cosmetics. Normally you can only get like three of them each week, and they still cost a lot of minerals to craft, so it's not like skipping their time-gating will mean that you end up with everything in no time. I honestly just think it makes the game much better and always gives you something new and exciting to work towards.
>>568377898>modifiers and weaponsI meant Modifiers for your weapons
>>568375252I blame Helldivers 2. My belief is that it blew open the doors to pve horde-based coop and fostered a flood of "Next Big Thing" game chasers into the genre--players who have next to no interest in actually learning anything beyond surface mechanics because they don't really have any intention of sticking around after the next Next Big Thing releases a few weeks later.Things should stabilize once that next game drops, but for the time being it'll be a shitshow.Personally, I don't think Rogue Core will be good even once the plebs leave because it's just fundamentally not a great game, especially in comparison to OG DRG, but I'm not psychic and I would be genuinely super happy for GSG to prove me wrong.
>>568377230>both hand held>both produces light and heatIt is a fitting a term.
>>568379440It's been so weird having to get used to this sort of player again. Even at Depth 4 it feels like 50% or more of the players have no clue about how to function like a team. The amount of people running off all by themselves and dyeing, managing to hit you more than the enemies is something else compared to when I played DRG even back in it's early beta. I guess this sort of game just attracts the worst sort of egotistical shitheads In regards to this games future I am cautiously optimistic. The DRG bones are a solid fundament to build upon, but GSG really missed the mark and made some really baffling decisions. Merits being as gated as they are, just feels bad. Not even getting a handful when completing a game is a sadistic choice. Mind you this is still early-access(even if that terms means almost nothing today) and I do believe that GSG will be forced to listen to feed-back now that it appears most players aren't aligned with their own vision 100% of the way I don't think the timer is a bad as it is made out to be, most players are just slow and meandering, I think the easiest solution is to allow players to bank spare time when they descend with the elevator, so quick groups will be rewarded as they go deeper with extra timed saved on earlier levels. I also think they need to give us a bit more control with our starting load-out. With so mane perks being tied to elemental damage, they should give us more tools to guarantee that we can get the right one on our weapons. It's incredibly easy to get fucked by not getting the right ones. I'm also pretty sure that they will change how we attain perks into something similar to how it works in Survivor games. It just seems easier if whenever there is enough EX for the group to level everyone just get their own personal rolls wherever they are with no need to huddle around Ellis. It's pretty rough right now, but the game is honestly great when you get lucky and end up with some decent people
>>568379675>lasgun and lasgun>one fires beams of light, the other fires bolts of light>they both kill enemies
genuine question, were the store page descriptions for the darktide classes written by AI?
>>568381234No, it's a thing called corpospeak, or in this case maybe it's more accurate to refer to it as "back of the box" speakAge old thing
>>568381234>>568381461WORSEthey were written by swedeswho are like "ja, jag kan tolk guud ingless"but then they can't talk "good English"
>>568380803I think banking time will further create issues between newer/dumber players and autists, because Autists will screech about not optimizing timings.For starting weapons, they definitely need some, I don't know why they want to move away from each dwarf having unique loadouts (they claim it's because it's hard to balance around each dwarf needing to have a unique weapon), but the current method feels lazy, even though it's obviously not lazy, they put a lot of work to add a bunch of guns, but because different characters need different weapons for different kinds of builds it just comes across as "lol we didn't think about the game we built".The perk thing just needs to be a global countdown of when it'll trigger so you're not caught off guard, like 5 seconds after the deposit happens.Crowding is stupid as fuck.I find the game fun with decent people, but I wouldn't call it great.The clunky UI, the fact that the dwarves all feel like "the DPS character" save for Guardian*, and some of the changes from DRG that feel like change for the sake of change, really constantly remind me that this game is a step down from DRG, at least in its current state.*All of the characters feeling like DPS characters is a really bad idea design wise unless they're specifically catering to the sociopathic dickheads who just want (as the other anon said) the "next big thing", because everyone wanting to be "the DPS" encourages main character syndrome, as opposed to teamwork, which is what makes these games thrive or die.
>>568381831This is also why so many of the info conveyed in the game is poorly communicated or ambiguous
>>568360668>nu-Lasgun>rooks rike regular gun
>>568381831Did you base this opinion on Swedish Chef?
>>568383057I base it on how well they actually speak the language. And it's not looking good for them.>b-but dr matias svengoloid said otherwise!I don't care. You're just as ESL as the average Indian.
>>568383562And which country are you from my brown friend?
>>568360668Visually not discernible from ballistic weapons. How boring
>>568383671I'm pretty sure thats the point. GW execs are so far stuck in the past they think they gotta appeal to the Cowadoody crowd still
>>568383617are you implying sw*den is a "white country"?
>>568383889Anything good from GW is because of fan headcanoning cool things into existence.
>>568384410Are you implying there's countries where there's a larger % of whites than scandinavia? I guess maybe Poland.
>>568384575They’ve done some cool stuff here and there, they’re just absolutely clueless what to do with a lot of it and don’t really care because muh plastic figurines
>>568346569Looks gay as fuck.
>>568360668this will certainly be changed.
>no skitty update todayFatshark...*cough cough*I trusted you...!*dies*
>>568389804Heil The Emperor
>>568384605literally every nordic country is whiter than sweden
>look at hd2 news>video of the devs performatively sitting at a table clearly not used for painting normally, painting minis >look at fatshark skitarii dev video>the exact same thinglmao
>:(
here's your class designer bro... he COOKEd hard, please click the "15% melee damage after hitting 2 enemies with one attack" talent nodes he made for you
>>568392673Yes well done for reinforcing my point retard
and here's the stupid bitch who makes those statistics images that dont even get the enemy names right. she's dumb as fuck but we like her cause she's cute
>>568393561Rattarius
>>568393561sloparii
>>568393646>>568393879They look so young… where did my life go wrong……
>>568394369You didn't have a family member working at one of these companies who could get you an entry level position, which is how 99% of people get a job at these companies
>>568394369You shouldn't be jealous of corporate office workers lol. Granted game dev is a little bit more creative so it can be fulfilling if you're in a top position but otherwise it's not that interesting
>>568394957i am jealous of someone working in an office job because i work in retail and get paid 2 shekles per decade
I havent played since like Sept last year and the balance seems exactly the same.Ogryn G.Lancher goodPsyker good for fodder killingZealot goodNobody plays Soldier Hivescum who I am just now learning seems to have replaced Zealot a bitDid i miss anything
>>568395517>Did i miss anythingYou'll catch up by playing the game. There is too much to get into
>>568393646>>568393879Wait are these real? Like actual Fatshark employees?
>>568395926Yes. Fatshark posted it
>>568395073I was in a similar position (not retail but I worked as nighttime security for ages) and I decided to look into adult school for shit related to my interests. I lift and I'm into nutrition stuff so I looked into stuff like, physical therapist schoolings, nutritionist classes to have some sort of certification. I researched (AI helps a lot, unironically, otherwise find out where you can get free career advice in your country, this is usually a thing govts offer) and ended up doing certain courses for certain diplomas and now I do sort of freelance nutritional coaching.I realize none of this may sound very exciting to you, but think about what your interests are and take steps to turn it into a living. I guarantee you even what you might consider stupid and pointless can turn into a career if you're passionate, I also thought I'm just a chud who lifts and knows a bit about them micros and macros. What I'm really trying to tell you is that you gotta make these steps or you'll never break out of deadend shit. It's never too late btw I'm basically geriatric. We're all gonna make it
So when you buy 4000 aquila for 5 dollars it comes out to about an eighth of a cent per aquila and we barely have gotten 100 so far for this shitThese fucking sweedes are part jewish
>>568393646where is his jaw>>568393879I would love to rape her
Fatshark is kind of retarded (shocker) Study this statement. The event tracker is apparently skulls being decoded. There's like 5 of those totems per mission, 10 if we wanna be generous. Generously assuming 10 that would mean 4 million missions have been played in these last 4 days or however long it's been up. HUH?? And this is just step 3 or 4 out of 7 I forgot. Keep in mind we have previous stats from them claiming that in a year, people have played 35 million missions.I wonder why devs even bother with these events if the numbers are just all fake. I bet it's not even anything being tracked, it's just a timer. Not like it's a big deal but wow everything really is fake and gay
>>568396418The whole tiered rewards thing is an odd idea. Especially when 500 aquillas buys you nothing. Each node has a little lore blurb about the ad mech, but it's all kind of meaningless.
>>568397484>>568396418Maybe tencent said to do it this way
>>568397404I'm pretty convinced it's faked data. They might have done it wrong where each player's score is added so 4x the number of skulls found, but even then the values are just too high. >>568396418shows that the latest tier is 40million points which is already an insane value and there are 3 more after it
>dies in the first minute of your H40It's always the ones you most expect...
>>568396286Based inspirational post good luck anon hope it works out
>>568398736Nice gay mods
>>568397718Even if it's 10 totems (I think it's more like 5) and even if they fucked it up so it counts 4x, that would still imply that 1 million missions have been played.Which would mean that, if you average it out over these 4 days the event has been running, there should be something like 5000 mission lobbies up at any given point if a mission is 30 mins. And that's event only. But there are only 9000 people online at once during peaks
>>568398736This is why you #InspectAndDecline
>a heroic thunder hammer that is spin2win instead of charge and slam>a heroic power fist that does a fire explosion on a full charge>two handed power sword already known to be coming for assault and bulwarkassault and bulwark are so back next patch
>>568400060I'm not trying to push you out, but is the SM2 general so shitty that you would rather post here?
>>568400060Have they made it so that TH charge slam is actually worth using, or does it still take approximately seven eons to charge?
>>568398846yah the math just doesn't support the values being shown
>>568396286awesome place to be discussing this but im in school for software engineering right now and crashing and burning because ive completely lost all motivation and passion for it, i literally just dont care enough to put the effort to learn shit anymore. i dont have anything else i have an interest in strong enough to build a career around, especially one that is motivating me enough to get off my ass and actually be productive towards. the job right now is mostly a means to an end but current im just roadblocked by being so inept at the whole "caring about a thing enough" to actually have a path towards anything meaningful
>Deciding between picking up Helldivers 2 or DRG>Most people say DRG is the better game but its also a lot more dead>dont really want to get absorbed into a dying game
>>568400682Same boat here. Except I’m not actually studying anything and just working a decent paying job. Wish my country had a military or something.
>>568401034That community is so autistic that you will for sure get bored of the game before it dies for good, just don't expect active lobbies when the US is asleep
>>568400682Sounds like you're burning out or something, consider a gap year to get your goats in order, sometimes a little time is all that's needed
>>568402206>>568401695>>568400682Keep it on-topic or keep it to yourself
>>568401034It's not dead at all; in fact, even >>568402114 is exaggerating when he says not to expect active lobbies during off hours. Barring the past week, I'm not sure the playerbase has dipped below 5,000 in years--even the current "low" of like 4.8k is only due to Rogue Core just releasing, and numbers will likely move back up to normal in short order. I always see anons going on about DRG being dead, but that is entirely outside of reality and is just due to personal burnout. DRG is STILL almost in the top 100 daily active users (currently #109) despite being over six years old.
>>568403707isnt drg dead?
>>568405356
>>568403707And yet they have never and will never win goty in the coop category or anything at all
Deep Cock GayLickDick
>other game brought up in darktide general>it must be met with some form of derision>noooo this is co-op general, we like co-op games not just darktide ;)this continues to be a pathetic stance
This nigga is shitting his diaper over light ribbing
the only thing ribbed is the bad dragon dildo you bounce on
*checks watch*Yup it's about that time for the spergs to argue about what colour shells Boltguns fire or whatever
>>568406845I don't know what's wrong with this disgusting, mentally ill, gay ERPing freak. Trying to stirr shit over a tiny DRG joke
>>568400402NTA by thanks for the heads up. The SM2 general died during the wait for the update and I legit didn't even know it was back.
>>568406976I was referring to you
>>568407917Don't be stupid. The general was doing just fine before this retarded tranny incel >>568406202 tried to start an argument between the numerous coop game friends in this general
>>568408127You're not even aware of how annoying you are, are you?
>>568408306It's not my fault if some thin-skinned retard gets offended because i breathed wrong or whatever, i'm more concerned with fostering a friendly and comfy environment for all coop players, which naturally places me at odds with filthy mongoloids like him who want to start arguments for no good reason
>i'm more concerned with fostering a friendly and comfy environmentokay groomer
>>568405787>And yet they have never and will never win goty in the coop category or anything at allYeah, that ship has sailed; I think there was a time in which DRG could've won Steam's Labor of Love accolade if GSG had just kept focusing on it instead of doing... whatever the fuck they're doing, but no more.DRG remains fun nonetheless.
>>568366496I agree with this.
>>568409102I remember when they had a troon level meltdown when people voted for Red Dead Online for goty despite it having gone years without updates just as a meme
>>568379440Sounds like the ones who are actually into friendslop coop rather than coop like Vermintide, Killing Floor, Deep Rock Galactic, etc. We're basically being invaded by normies into our hobbies. Anyone got that one pic?Really curious how a Vermintide 3 would preform right now with such people coming in. Maybe it'll get them to actually develop faster? Inb4 they put in a game breaking bug right before a 2 week vacation that they will not cancel.
>>568381234Reeeeeee why won't fagshark hire me!!!! I speak ingrish!!!!!! Let me in poopshark, I wanna move to Sweden work on Vermintide and I guess Darktide and go on frequent 2 week paid vacations!!!!!
>>568412489You wouldn't last a day in the fatshark offices
i just got darktide with the 2 dlcswhats the easiest class to lvl up and go to the endgame?
>>568413581Veteran is the most like a conventional FPS character, Arbite is very strong. Leveling in general is pretty easy but there are endgame elements where almost no one plays because for most people it's too hard to be fun.
>>568413581Arbites
>>568410790lol GSG did? wtf…>>568379440Agreed with the Helldivers part. It definitely opened up a big door, not just for players, but also for developers to an extent.
>>568413581Arbites or Zealot. Don't go Vet unless you're already familiar with 'tide games, you need to learn how to do melee first and arbi/zealot will keep you on your feet longer thus, more time spent learning.
I use bolter on Arbites.
>>568414350No gsg doesn't give a shit about their game or community they just want to make money off their tepid game that they never really did cool shit withThe community did when Red Dead Online won labor of love after years of zero updates from cockstar as a joke because it was so poorly done
>>568414986Execution Order and Castigator's Stance bolter with electrodog is fun
>>568414986>>568415228That's it, I'm sawing my cock off. I hope you're happy with yourselves
I still think FS should be adding new ost's and missions whenever they drop a new characterjust wishful thinking, I understand FS is a small indie companyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aG0A8BXG7FM
>>568416849Maybe you'll get lucky and they release an OST pack
>>568417010Paid OST pack. I forgot to add that
>>568417010Thanks for reminding me that they still haven't officially released the No Man's Land or Hive Scum tracks. Everyone said it took them a month to release the Arbites track so just wait a month bro it's coming
>>568327769Back again, beat 1. Started 2, already I see many QoL improvements. I was using fat slow weapons in 1, I think I'll do fast twin-rigged in 2. Not the biggest fan of the fortnite hud they put in. 1 had the superior look.
>>568421035Maybe it's basic as fuck but I really liked the 1H maceI probably would've used the spear too if I didn't main the staff in Surge 1Anyway enjoy brah
Okay we didn't get skitty news yesterday but surely we're getting some tomorrow.
>>568421816Haha...
>>568422138Maybe not tomorrow, but surely we're getting it next tuesday!
>>568421816annoncement of an annoncement SOON
Is Arbiter more fun than Psyker?
>>568426606Depends on what you find fun. Arbiter is great for being unkillable and tossing armor around like ragdolls with all the stagger he gets.
>>568426606Psyker is the most broken class in the game for damageGrumbly batman voice dredd is the most broken for surviveability so
>>568426606In terms of fun, for me,Force Sword Gaze Psyker > Arby >>>>> Staff Psyker (the way you're supposed to be playing it)
>>568426704I enjoy equipping the great force sword and going ham in packs
>>568426860FGS builds and shock staff leftclick are virtually identical and you barely have to make any concessions to have a build competent at doing both. It's kinda sick actually. Leave your laspistol at home.
>>568397404>>568397718>>568398846Don't the totems count as like 100 skulls or something like that? I remember that being a thing in previous events.
>>568416849Speaking of missions, I think it's a given that the smelter complex and the half-frozen power station whose name I can't remember are going to be folded into an Admech themed campaign extension; any other OG missions left at this point?>>568426606It's a different buzz. Psyker is a happy little bouncing ball of death right up until two poxwalkers slip through your guard at the same time and double-tap half your health. Arbitrator is an implacable grinding force, maybe not as flashy or spectacular as a psyker but less of a catastrophe curve to ride.
>>568413581>whats the easiest class to lvl up and go to the endgame?Truly endgame havoc 40? The classes that require the lowest amount of game knowledge and player skill are probably zealot and psyker. It's kinda sorta possible to spoon feed a half-decent player a top build, and have them pull their own weight. Vet requires that you pay attention, ogryn is deceptively difficult, scum requires very good basics, and arbitrator doesn't do well if you suck as a player.Auric? Arbitrator is just about the second strongest class overall in auric, while being the single most durable at the same time. You can afford to make all the mistakes and just tank through it.Actual recommendation on what to play? I'd suggest zealot until you're comfortable in auric maelstrom. It'll teach you all of the important basics of melee, which you MUST learn. Arbitrator is so defensively overpowered in the regular difficulties that it'll teach you bad habits.
>>568428234It has to be but I'm too lazy to check>>568397404Totem counting towards the goal doesn't mean dropped skulls don't count
>>568413581In terms of leveling up and getting equipment, I'd say they are equal. But in terms of skill, arbites is the most forgiving.
>>568428580>Arbitrator is so defensively overpowered in the regular difficulties that it'll teach you bad habits.You mean Zealot will teach you bad habits because you can stop caring about chip damage with Revenant.It's easier to maintain 100% toughness (which you should be doing) on Arbites but at least there are consequences if you don't.
>>568426606lol noPsyker has the most build diversity out of all classes, even though retards will tell you it only has inferno staff
>>568428953I disagree. You're taking being good at the game for granted. Until Death and Revenant hopefully bail you out of major fuckups once every two minutes, but you still need to be in actual combat and deal actual damage to get your health back, pay attention to the buff's duration, and aren't allowed to fuck up again for the next 2 minutes. A new/bad player will struggle with this.I've seen plenty of martyrdom zealots in auric that get some real fucking mileage out of their zillion wounds by going down all the time. That's okay. At least they're playing crutch builds because they clearly need them.In the case of arbitrator, once you're reasonably good at the basics, and/or use a shield and remember to flashbang, you really are just perfectly safe. You can get some retarded 15%+ or something per second, on a toughness pool of 200+ if you're crazy enough to run full toughness investment (I think +5% toughness is bad and I much prefer running 1 health curio with True Grit).
I play bubble not as a crutch to save myself but to save you because you fucking suck and keep going down and my constant fire crit sword needs no flame staff for upkeep and I can wipe entire hordes while you hide in cover
>>568429304thanks
>>568427205Then you'd probably prefer zealot over arbie
>>568427205I enjoy equipping the women's clothing and going ham in my wiener
>>568429190>I think +5% toughness is badI agree. 5% is just too low to miss out on ability cooldown regeneration, revive speed, gunner resistance, stamina regen, corruption resistance.>I much prefer running 1 health curio with True GritThat's weird. Any free curio should go into stamina, on any class. Building for failure and all that.Arbites doesn't have edge cases when you spend 20 stamina parrying infinite ragers, but it's still better to be able to spam push your way out of any situation or get more toughness that makes you obscenely overpowered, than getting something useless like a wound that gimps your green stimms.
>>568427205>Then you'd probably prefer psyker* over arbiefixed
>>568430242I have literally not even once struggled with stamina on arbitrator, who has the fastest stamina recovery delay anyway. I run 0 stamina investment btw.Then again I didn't get baited into dumping defenses on my shield either, and that does make a huge difference.
>>568430395Being able to revive without wasting a shock mine is nice
>>568393879I wonder what class she plays.
>>568430291Lol yeah that reply took so long I forgot what the original question was
>>568430767She's a graphic designer. She plays foid games
>>568398736can i get a quick rundown on what's wrong about this? i just started playing a couple of days ago.
>>568430767Working class
>>56839873621% hp on vet is questionable but that seems like the only issue? I guess sweats in havoc don't care about running extra wounds either, probably.
>>568415465I wonder if your massive blood loss will take the form of spurts of blood or just a continuous stream/beam...
>>568398736We have red gear now?
>>568431069>21% hp on vet is questionableIt's great actually, prevents instagibs from unlucky bursters and gives you more time to stand in puddles. Corruption res is good too.The wound is definitely questionable ofc.
>>568430909The extra wound is a red flag, but the it's mainly funny because it's THE meta build and was probably copied from somewhere
>>568430909It's just not really "optimised" so number hunters on here skeeve out about it, but also in this game it's easy to optimise so they have a point, why wouldn't you.There's a lot of secret info in this game, stats and mechanics not properly explained in the tooltips so when you find a weapon you like, look it up online with your class and you'll see builds for it. Copy the same stats and blessings, because there's good chance the autist that made that build has put far more investigation into it than you ever will. You can roll Brunt's Armoury until you get the perfect stats, upgrade it as you use it then at high mastery equip it with all the perks and blessings.
>>568430767I wish she'd play with my penis, if you catch my drift.
>>568430909Not much really, I've seen worseWrong mark of the swordRandom stats on a swordNo carapace perk on vet's best anti-carapace weaponSlaughterer is not bad per se but is a suboptimal blessing on a ranged build (which this probably isn't)Wound curio is always a red flagHP curio is whatever, I wouldn't use it but many people kept them since old times and it's not like there is no debate between hp and toughness fags. It kinda makes sense with a wound curio because more wounds = less hp per wound and easier to lose a wound to corruption.
>>568430909>>568431069>>568431240>random ass stat spread on both weapons>power sword MARK THREE instead of Mk6I didn't post the skill tree but I can let you know this wasn't a meta loadout
>>568431415actually fuck it
>>568431754At least he took serrated blades
>>568431754ugh image for ants>>568431826>serrated blade>on power sword
>>568431952Why the fuck are there so many infiltrate builds now? And they apply to havocs too.
>>568432096They think they're gonna be the objective and revive king
>>568431952This is currently the top veteran buildhttps://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a58b877-f385-40dd-a4cc-d8198b4a6688/invincible-vet-2Not the one with the most updoots (not that it's great either), but the one that shows up firstSeems he hated it and wanted to replace weapons, but didn't touch the tree.
>>568432256Invincible indeed...
>>568428580>zealotNot saying you are wrong but playing on asia+aus side, I keep seeing zealot running in like an idiot.
>>568432256Man gameslanternfags sure are fucking retarded huh
>>568432256>check the front page of gameslantern>first four builds are this one and three roleplay buildsI fucking hate this website
>>568432256>darktide.gameslantern.com
>>568432498>I keep seeing zealot running in like an idiot.Yes, they're low skilled morons managing to survive h40 well enough because zealot is comparatively ezpz. Across all major regions, in havoc, I feel like zealot and psyker have the worst players overall, because the classes are just so free. Zealots tend to be very retarded on top, while psykers tend to be slow bubble crawl babbies.And then you have a good zealot and suddenly can't really die anymore because chorus is still broken, and timing it correctly actually does matter. The amount of shitter zealots that randomly chorus a boss without even positioning to corner stun or ledge it, is fucking disturbing. Or shitters who hold onto it for too long even though there's a fart cloud. Or idiots not paying attention to teammates and thus not dumping chorus when others are low on toughness.
What the fuck are you waiting for? Make a new thread
>>568432835>What the fuck are you waiting for?Non-recycled content from fatshark.
>>568432905Kill yourself
>>568432835It's only page 5 fag.
>>568432978Ok, shill.
Migrate>>568433672>>568433672>>568433672>>568433672
>>568432096Shout or bust, piss toughness is op
